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i definetly think only one is best, i find discord more custom bot friendly (i think) and is better for networking (in my opinion)
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i do like slack's reddit like chat organization though!
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need to see if there is a discord bot / setting for that
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for now use both i guess
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Also i don't want to be the format police here, BUT
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for making work easier, and new people "getting around" easier i think this practice/rule/method is key:
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https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Complete_Pages
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also makes me going around fixing stuff easier as at least it would all be "marked"
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also i in no way want to "kill" various personal styles/templates
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just want pages to be interlinked
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next to your name at the bottom left) and click on Appearance. There you will find Developer Mode. Click the toggle to enable it.
Command list:
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r!settings | Manage your server settings.
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Unkown arguments!
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@Eric Lotze Just sightseeing for now
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i have history with the Node.JS toolchain and related languages (HTML and derivatives, CSS and derivatives), Unity is forcing me how to wrap my head around object-oriented programming with C# even though i REALLY wish i could stick with raw C++ (which i had to learn for my associates in network engineering)
did i mention linux? linux is cool, even tried to build my own desktop environment a few times
i also run my own homelab, so of COURSE i had to learn linux
but i don't run linux directly on my servers
i use VMWare ESXi as a hypervisor
(yes i know that's not open-source, but it's a homelabber's go-to hypervisor if you can get your hands on a license key "FOR LAB USE ONLY" 
(and I could easily switch over to Proxmox if directed to by a community such as this)
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so I cant test my own plotter code
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. If you mean the core team, they must have a source of lime because its an input for the CEB press. I assume they get it on location, since its naturally abundant, but I'm not yet an expert on the brick project. It may be that's something you would learn in the workshop. 
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I got here thru talk in the Precious Plastic discord....I'm still learning a lot of mechanical stuff but I've got experience w electrical/code stuff 1 1 can't promise I'd be super productive here within the next couple months as im finishing a couple other things, but once I am this sounds like a lot of interesting stuff going on
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There's also a small MPPT project on crowdsupply, but it's not a big selection.....that looks very cool, I've been looking for smth like that for a couple years now https://youtu.be/P1E5xszQqV8
https://www.crowdsupply.com/ronoth/lostik
I'm still totally "theoretical" on the whole concept, though.
Then all we have to do, to get wide-spread adoption of an independent, emergency network, is to undo 300 years of territorial politics. No sweat.
Still, it helps to know how you would do it, in principle, if everybody could just pull their heads out of their butts and see the benefits. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1
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See ya. GL you might find something on eBay used for less than $100, but I don't think I've ever seen a box for less than that new - you can buy boards but they're unshielded & unantenna'd usually
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️ https://powerresins.com/products/powercast-burn-castable-resin
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https://www.crowdsupply.com/lite3dp/lite3dp-3d-printer
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This is the dumbest game of "chicken" ever.
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I learnt my lesson trying to talk sense to Millennial wanna-be "futurists."
Also, since I'm South African and Elon was born South African I like to think I have some extra insight. But that's neither here nor there. 1
But I'm pretty sure a lot of people here either don't know who he is, or don't know he was born here.
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3D-Printed COMPLIANT MECHANISMS!!
Visiting Auroville community in India
organic intelligences being fundamentally Plural...
That's the nicest way of saying "humans are stupid" I've come across in a while.
"Barely conscious, semi-hairless apes with delusions of grandeur" is my personal favourite.
I iz not fancy. 
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Which servers?
I assume it was public servers. Keys were signed with automated key-signing bots millions of times until the servers crashed, or something like that. 1
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& Technically, you can self-sign SSL certs, you just can't get others to trust that self-signing unless you've got enough Clout to convince them you're trustworthy (and if you've got enough Clout to convince google chrome to not put up a 'untrusted cert' notification - rn w web stuff, browsers are the biggest monopoly (firefox even bases everything on chromium nowadays)) 
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Discord really should have a setting to give temporary ownership of a server to somebody, so people can take a break. Giving "Admin" permission doesn't quite cut it.
(Unless it's been added since I last checked. I'm always on Mobile, and it has limited features.)
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self-selected echo chamber effect just becomes toxic
Yes, but getting constantly interrupted by idiots becomes exhausting, and as the saying goes "a friend to all is a friend to none" because in an increasingly polarized World, with survival stakes and threats constantly escalating, at some point you have to "close ranks" to keep out the "riff-raff" and get something done. 1 1)
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make 1st world living "western world luxuries" cheap as shit and super abundant in the poorest parts of the world before all this burns
Yeah, American "futurists," in particular, seem very confident about the "post-scarcity" idea.
There's just two "slight" problems with that:
1. The ecological collapse and resource depletion / contamination of virtually all current industrial processes probably means that giving all 8 to 11 billion of us the "Western Lifestyle" is probably a pipe dream.
2. The only way to achieve it under so-called "free markets" is either A) dirt cheap and dangerous labour (which perpetuates cycles of poverty and social stratification) or B) automation (which leads to societal and/or economic collapse because robots don't buy things or vote.)
So, curb your enthusiasm.
1make 1st world living "western world luxuries" cheap as shit and super abundant in the poorest parts of the world before all this burns
Yeah, American "futurists," in particular, seem very confident about the "post-scarcity" idea.
There's just two "slight" problems with that:
1. The ecological collapse and resource depletion / contamination of virtually all current industrial processes probably means that giving all 8 to 11 billion of us the "Western Lifestyle" is probably a pipe dream.
2. The only way to achieve it under so-called "free markets" is either A) dirt cheap and dangerous labour (which perpetuates cycles of poverty and social stratification) or B) automation (which leads to societal and/or economic collapse because robots don't buy things or vote.)
So, curb your enthusiasm. 
https://youtu.be/xa0mieJHM94
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do you have discord-edit permissions yet?
Manage User under my profile will show you my permissions.
There are two or three editing "levels."
I have none on this server. But YAGbot only takes configuration instructions from Admins.
(Makes sense, I guess. "Hey, RoboCop! Shoot that guy for me, will ya?" )
I was hoping someone with more YAGbot / Carl-bot experience could do it.
I'll try to set something up. I'll be careful.
Will give instructions on how it works, after testing. 1
Why is Kerala significant? 1
Fears of spacex outpacing the government / not being "reigned in" enough, to where once they get people up there there isn't oversight
Ummm... Yeah... 
The guy is planning to be the Commander / Governor / Emperor of an entire planet.
Which is "slightly" outside of everyone else's jurisdiction.
As for orbital stations... multiple "space-capable" governments will probably set rules on minimum distances, flight trajectories and what not.
Any space station that poses a threat, probably could be shot down.
And of course, the US has at least one kind of autonomous space plane that could maybe be used as a "towing truck" to do controlled re-orbiting, or ejecting a station out into open space.gravity (movie) esque debris...
The term you were looking for, is Kessler Syndrome. A bit easier to say, I think.
It's a real environmental problem. And like all environmental problems, probably no-one will do something about it, until it's way too late.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome
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- actually I have a big bag of questions - there was some talk going on with Marcin but evtl. we just have a meet before next steps. 'Interconnect' should be rather easy - as long I can mine & index the content (for linking).
Let me compile a list of questions over the weekend. There is Markdown, PDF generation and social interaction/forum in my list - stuck as you 
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See you in a bit.
I just checked https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions & https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page. Simply awesome - that makes it super easy to add or embed Discourse discussions. Also on the authentication side it seems we can have SSO; - Discourse already provides a long list of social media sign-on as well an extensive user model (ACL & trust points). Ok, I think I am all set and now it's just time to get hands dirty.
As for PDF compilation (manuals)- Wikimedia has a few extensions - using almighty 'Pandoc'.
Possibly I may need API access to combine PreciousPlastic/PlasticHub & related OSE content into a new project called 'OSR-Plastic'.
Is there something like custom fields ? In Joomla or Wordpress they called it CCK (Custom Content or so). That would enable to create custom forms so data can be entered a little more guided. Something like a content template for authoring. 
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Making such an ambitious game was always going to be a challenge and we love the game we’ve built together with our community. However, Worlds Adrift did not capture the imagination of as many people as we needed to make it commercially viable. https://www.worldsadrift.com/
2 - not sure how to utilize interwiki features/caps for that ... 
1 - not sure how to utilize interwiki features/caps for that ...
seems I still have to dig my way through some mediawiki features first : interwiki & API
but yeah; as I have seen in PreciousPlastic; replacing important coms like a forum with kiddy crap as Discord wiped out lot's of the good user base but also degraded the entire project far below zero, not just user type wise but also content wise; there wasn't a single good discussion possible or left after all
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I think the more difficult part is integration, eg: writing plugins for other apps or libraries as well dealing with compilers - in particular - doing cross platform code.
Choosing a good IDE also impact a lot your learning progress; I was really happy with Visual Studio and VissualAssistX; later on I moved back to Gentoo; only because I could emulate or build anything there.
I think you don't write games per se in C anymore - game logic, etc.. is mostly done in embeddable languages as Lua or others. What's done in C are the render, physics, network or AI engine and then 'bindings' come into play to use it on higher languages.
As another path in, and also really rewarding is writing for micro-controllers (arduino, real fun stuff); there are really harsh conditions - same great like learning to drive on a real shitty car after doing game engines for a while (PS1,...) I really enjoyed to get my hands on real hardware after (VR,...)
https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Seed_Home_v2_3D_CAD
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it adds also basic search but also supports other search engines; and it looks great; for deep search, eg: PDFs you might need something better (elastic search has plugins) 1
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fds add wall-module with fds commit -m 'new module' and fds push and it's all published for others to iterate on (they'll need to fds pull locally)
I suppose the idea would be to skip having to manually open a wiki page to upload the images and files, and so you hang out in FreeCAD and CLI only to get collaboration done 
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Is there a rationale for choosing proprietary SaaS tooling?
https://wekan.github.io/ seems to fill the same need and is open source
https://alternativeto.net/software/trello/?license=opensource plenty of "OSE philosophically aligned" choices
(in any case, getting ourselves to use any of these tools is the largest hurdle, in my experience; and using the collab tools well, even more difficult... worth it in the long-term, IMO)
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where do you folks work through the kinks of the digital experience? GitHub repos link for infra-as-code? 
Not sure where it's floating but there are quite a number of systems to be considered :
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Were you able to put Wikipedia behind the Keycloack SSO? (That's my next step) 1 I indented to make a draw.io sketch as next; will share it here as soon it's ironed out; more likely next week; I am on vacation actually 1 1 - on day I send Marcin a real mic
Reality is that most collaborators and clients just use what's 'there', Zoom & Teamviewer - can be awful too though ...
However, I recon there is much to be done - I wanted a 'simple' cross-platform voice streaming app between our workstations across the company - just got busted; couldn't even find something good to have audio between Adhoc wifi phones (aka walki-talki)
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- rendered via Vue - kinda neat though (vacation killer)
// POC code ;-)
[% include "product_variables.osr" %]
<span>[[product.product_name]]</span>
[% include "header_notice.osr" %]
[% include "body.html" %]
<div style="clear:both">
[% include "product_overview_drawings.osr" %]
</div>
<div style="padding:16px;text-align: center;">
<div class="ty-vendor-plans">
<div class="ty-grid-list__item" style="float: left;border: 1px gray;">
<h4 id="authors">Specification</h4>
[% include "product_specs.osr" html:true %]
</div>
<div class="ty-grid-list__item" style="float: left;text-align: left;border: 1px gray;">
[% if config.show.authors %]
[% include "authors_html.osr" authors:product.authors showHeader:true %]
[%endif%]
</div>
</div>
</div>
[% include "product_resources.osr" %]
[% include "vendor_magento.osr" %]
<hr/>
[% include "product_showreel.osr" %]
[% include "other_products.osr" %]
[% include "social_links.html" %]
[% include "vendor_instagram.osr" %]
[% include "product_debug.osr" %]
[%js%]
[%endjs%]
<h4 style="text-align:center"> Our latest Instagram posts </h4>
[%js%]
return cacache.get.info(CACHE, 'vendor-instagram').then((cache)=>{
if(cache){
return cacache.get(CACHE, 'vendor-instagram').then((cached)=>{
return cached.data.toString();
})
}
return instagram.images(config.instagram.user,config.instagram.token, global).then((images)=>{
images = images.slice(0, 8);
images = html.container.wrap(images.map((i)=> html.container.item(html.image(i),'border:none; width:200px;max-height:200px')).join('\n'));
return cacache.put(CACHE,'vendor-instagram',images).then(()=>{
return images;
})
});
});
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But seriously - did anyone looked at instagram reels ? this makes me feel like an Neanderthal - just as on youtube top 100 - gosh - we're screwed
tbh, freecad didn't survive the first 10 minutes in my evaluation - ash on my head 2
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1 For now, I'm going through the wiki trying to make sense of the vast amount of information. Hopefully over time things will make more sense to me and there'll be other times for guided learning that I can apply for 
1 1 For now, I'm going through the wiki trying to make sense of the vast amount of information. Hopefully over time things will make more sense to me and there'll be other times for guided learning that I can apply for On the pragmatic argument, I get it but the very same OSE project wouldn't exist if we applied that to everything 1 thank you - are there any regular meetings? would be nice to join as an observer thank you - are there any regular meetings? would be nice to join as an observer 2 thank you - are there any regular meetings? would be nice to join as an observer 
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There's plenty reports and exploits, https://hackerone.com/bitwarden?type=team
There's plenty reports and exploits, https://hackerone.com/bitwarden?type=team 
how the heck do they find those memory leaks
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There is a lot of interest in open hardware, and I think, ways for us to work on it together.
There is a lot of interest in open hardware, and I think, ways for us to work on it together. well I'm young, currently learning strict C programming at school 42, and setting foundations to be an autonomous adult... Maybe I'll join another school to get more engineering skills (I've got EPFZ & EPFL closeby... ), or bootstrap a lab/farm with freelance work, to learn by doing, self-study with others, etc
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(️1):( I'd always praise the village/community uses of it, but I'd like to focus on single-operator telerobotics, automation, semi-futurism around this aspect of solo, seclusion, isolation, etc - all that is done there easily amplifies communal knowledge too if stored/shared properly - lookin' at you wonderful "PowerCube" video, mm yesh!)
(️2):( and yes, non-individualistic focus is better, ethically and such - but it's been my passion I think, so many ideas. To pivot off into iffy, multi-person psychological-affecting decision-making, whew... those passionate about that may be better equipped, I'd mix it in later, and I feel secure good people are making good work there) 
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(️1):( I'd always praise the village/community uses of it, but I'd like to focus on single-operator telerobotics, automation, semi-futurism around this aspect of solo, seclusion, isolation, etc - all that is done there easily amplifies communal knowledge too if stored/shared properly - lookin' at you wonderful "PowerCube" video, mm yesh!)
(️2):( and yes, non-individualistic focus is better, ethically and such - but it's been my passion I think, so many ideas. To pivot off into iffy, multi-person psychological-affecting decision-making, whew... those passionate about that may be better equipped, I'd mix it in later, and I feel secure good people are making good work there) 1
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Don't forget to poke on https://awesomeopensource.com/ as well 
but it really falls short describing data as tables per-se ... Was always wondering how data between projects can be shared though ... Back in the days, we've got RQL and the like but also that involved insane imperative approaches and work. Apparently, so called AI can do lot of good stuff that way ...
Certainly can't be, probably never will be, in a workshop, with anyone, ever hah - what a pity - you gonna miss the whole show about I often try to learn new things by driving the shitty car first - teaches you the respect for the next come, - I'm probably outdated anyway but working and knowing the people into it can be a little bit more important than the science of it -
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https://osr-plastic.org/library/
if you need a hand, ... 
pandoc -f markdown -t mediawiki INPUT.md -o OUTPUT.wiki) but it's really limited - on top, mediawiki isn't easy to parse, especially when plugins come into play - you'd need to create a md counterpart - which makes things even more messy, not mentioning syncing ..
more here, https://lord.io/text-editing-hates-you-too/ 
Wikifactory near dead and lost, despite a 50m cash influx, instructables.com now in the hands of auto-desk but doing good, and precious-plastic's one-army platform going nowhere but in more tech debts, with no traction anywhere ...
that leaves me with Discourse, which can stand on it's own, market place, wiki directory - additional stuff can be added pretty easily, deployment via docker.
anything I missed ? was wondering to bundle just ose and osr alltogether and make it available to AI translators - DeepL became pretty good - and Google AI based voice generator may help the an-alphabets, ... 1
wip / boilerplate, https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-i18n/src/branch/master/src/speech/google.ts - same funny and sexy, mixing foreign languages against each other, eg: Japanese model against English input. plenty of new AI stuff emerging on TikTok recently
can´t wait to put a real-time pipe on it 
And here some experiments with Dall-E mini : https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/dall-e-examples/8461
have a nice one, g - tracking the progress here : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-lib-content#plugins-widgets - feel free to add.
There's no API yet to integrate it well and I don't think it's helpful to master your content creation skills. It might be just in the way. Writing documentation can be incredibly complex. Even for simple cases, I am ending up with a custom DSL to cover all edge cases and features needed, eg: multi-lingual, responsiveness, SEO, semantic web, etc.. - all offline tools, and yet far from 'perfect'.
I understand however, we need 'typings' for 'web' 'language' - to make Google, and AI happy.
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but alas my hands are too shakey for a clean weld - now you worry me 
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gonna make the first, 45, east german, spent a few decades mostly at the screen, same stupid & hyperactive as before - located in BCN - trying to make sense, of PP/OSE and anything related ... OS lover, anxious, bored, ... 
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we can certainly see what open source engineering can do - actually pretty clear and busy for the next years, implementing a new stack (documentation/marketplace/library/support, ...) which allows me to maintain verticals as 'PreciousPlastic', my own 'company's infrastructure, and perhaps OSE.
Tech however changed a lot over the last 5 years and it became terribly fragmented.
However, I believe that a good but disposable framework could indeed make a change, eg: helpful in developing countries, remove bottlenecks for talents/makers, etc...
Other than software, I am trying to develop a modular kit about recycling (PP's aftermath), a great use-case - but lab/class-room grade, with enough extensibility to turn it into 'products' (dreaming
Eager to hear your thoughts, perhaps I am wrong about all that, and there are more urgent things to do ...
Guides, papers, and resources for prompt engineering - GitHub - dair-ai/Prompt-Engineering-Guide: Guides, papers, and resources for prompt engineering
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I'd like to emphasize again that good forum posts invite likewise minded folks to great long term discussions. https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/food-safe-plastics/7849/15 1 2
https://www.tiktok.com/@melisa_arnautovic/video/7206986837716487430
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(This does mean I’ll be on here waaaaaaaay less (similar schedule/level of tiredness in offtime to when i took that welding class), so I’ll probably pin this in case people are wondering where I am at times)
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OSE uses wiki templates, I think it's pretty good to standardize and link products, amen that - just that the web & tech moved about 2-3 generations past Wikimedia. Plugins, codebase, ... became unmanagable ... 1 
2 - it's more of a hobby of mine, nothing to do with OSE/OSHW, yet. But with some luck we have a toolkit, for validation, scaffolding/boilerplating OSHW projects, and products, by the end of the year. Still figuring how to integrate electronics, and a few other fabrication methods. There are no standards (if you need them ;), except ISO (paid, in the thousands). And for language agnostic data, there's just JSONSchema, and it has it's limitations also. Kinda fishing expedition ... - it's more of a hobby of mine, nothing to do with OSE/OSHW, yet. But with some luck we have a toolkit, for validation, scaffolding/boilerplating OSHW projects, and products, by the end of the year. Still figuring how to integrate electronics, and a few other fabrication methods. There are no standards (if you need them ;), except ISO (paid, in the thousands). And for language agnostic data, there's just JSONSchema, and it has it's limitations also. Kinda fishing expedition ... - it's more of a hobby of mine, nothing to do with OSE/OSHW, yet. But with some luck we have a toolkit, for validation, scaffolding/boilerplating OSHW projects, and products, by the end of the year. Still figuring how to integrate electronics, and a few other fabrication methods. There are no standards (if you need them ;), except ISO (paid, in the thousands). And for language agnostic data, there's just JSONSchema, and it has it's limitations also. Kinda fishing expedition ... 1 1
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here's a plug'n play boilerplate for SERP : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-search/src/branch/master/src/commands/sa_search.ts - and there's a NodeJs client for media-wiki too somewhere ... the new 'claude' engine seems to outperform chatgpt quite a bit, didn't try but takes up 75000 words 1
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1 1 1 1 1 1Owners and Affirmer will not... part may help - I the license-chooser/applier(Owner) have stated I will not even try. screwing myself over according to IP lovers :P
Funnily it's Trademark that worries me most. Patents have "defensive publishing" to prevent patents - just make it exist pre-patent.
Trademarks... infinitely renewable every 10 yearsOwners and Affirmer will not... part may help - I the license-chooser/applier(Owner) have stated I will not even try. screwing myself over according to IP lovers :P
Funnily it's Trademark that worries me most. Patents have "defensive publishing" to prevent patents - just make it exist pre-patent.
Trademarks... infinitely renewable every 10 years 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaKIZ7gJlRU&t=147s
For hardware however, I am stuck with CERN for now, can't say I am happy 
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Language wise, ASCII doc looks promising but won't satisfy all needs. Still thinking about ... Signups/Logins via Nordvpn didn't help at all. Is MS/Windows beaconing more than known ? Signups/Logins via Nordvpn didn't help at all. Is MS/Windows beaconing more than known ? 
bonus, it doesn't exclude folks but also invites people to create better content
I hope I can do this when I am retired ,https://www.youtube.com/@primitivetechnology9550 | https://www.youtube.com/@Clickspring 
https://github.com/orgs/endlessm/
https://www.instagram.com/missaodimix/ 
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self-sufficient community - sounds really tasty, made me scratch my head. Perhaps global changes are pushing folks into more collaboration, on a local level.
Other than using Opensource as marketing gag, it might be probably easier to identify where OS would make most sense, eg: semi-conductor, software, Fablabs, schools, knowledge transfer.
OpenHardware on the other hand is still a mystery to me but I think Marcin did a great job, adding all the reasoning, engineering, etc... on top, of just binary CAD models. Biggest obstacles as already mentioned are protocols/platforms, templates, and CAD ( FreeCAD still far from being really useful tho but it's getting there :)). And last not but least, like minded folks, sharing product grade designs tho. just thinking out loud self-sufficient community - sounds really tasty, made me scratch my head. Perhaps global changes are pushing folks into more collaboration, on a local level.
Other than using Opensource as marketing gag, it might be probably easier to identify where OS would make most sense, eg: semi-conductor, software, Fablabs, schools, knowledge transfer.
OpenHardware on the other hand is still a mystery to me but I think Marcin did a great job, adding all the reasoning, engineering, etc... on top, of just binary CAD models. Biggest obstacles as already mentioned are protocols/platforms, templates, and CAD ( FreeCAD still far from being really useful tho but it's getting there :)). And last not but least, like minded folks, sharing product grade designs tho. just thinking out loud 
https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Promise_of_Open_Hardware
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ABB welding robots ready to go for around 6-10k, OpenROS compatible 
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most of the data I kept maintaining and dealing with came from random systems, APIs, formats, .. a nice mess, making it almost impossible to contribute, or even improve anything at all. Fablabs, SMEs and even big firms however expressed their wish to make things better ... let's help them - ignoring the larger problems/obstacles : IP, owership, profits, ... 1
