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Typing :flag_za: plants our flag, like this:

Wha-pow! I claim this channel for Mzansi. Halala! And thereby, unfortunately, I almost reach the limit of my capability with indigenous languages, unless Afrikaans counts. I should have paid more attention in Xhosa class, and kept the reading material.

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afrikaans! dan kan ik meepraten :) @gslabt here is your home (edited)

Yes, mail Tim back in a shipping crate, if he causes too much trouble in Eindhoven. We need a machine builder down here.

3:18 PM

I say "down here," when referring to the Southern Hemisphere, only out of force of habit. It is, of course, totally arbitrary. And I quite like the above view of the planet. Take that, Europe!

My Apocalyptic visions have come true... It's just me and the bots now...

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SAens, please support the charity Breadtags For Wheelchairs. http://www.breadtagsforwheelchairs.co.za/ https://m.facebook.com/breadtagsforwheelchairs https://youtu.be/Hc5ik3Cl_bw

http://wwmp.org.za/elitsha/2019/06/28/wastepickers-tell-of-poor-conditions/ This is a project from @makerstationhq. I think we should have city-wide meet-ups there. These trolleys might also work as static collection bins to be parked in certain regular spots for trash donation from the public. The idea is that businesses can sponsor a trolley in exchange for an advertisement on the trolley. They are also fitted with flashing LED "hazard" lights and GPS trackers.

Nice initiative... but I still think there could be way more help/infrastructure for these guys. I'd love to see a functional bridge between a PP workspace and these collectors. We're doing a lot of work with regards to collection and the collectors in SA solve so many of the challenges.

12:36 PM

https://www.plasticsinfo.co.za/2019/07/23/plastics-industry-aims-to-find-solution-to-pollution/?fbclid=IwAR02jRr13VGuxWVA9fSw7lZET65mQulvbN2gV5KK2qOOsnuoUkpK2kbCk9M I wonder if these initiatives are aware of PP.. or just need it to be presented / proven to work

Plastics industry aims to find solution to pollution - Plastics SA

Plastics SA and the entire industry is working hard to find a solution to the problem of excessive plastic pollution in the environment.

Thanks @gslabt . I think SAWPA will eventually be the folks to partner with. An organisation run by the pickers themselves, is probably the best avenue to take. They understand the needs of their members. South African Waste-pickers Association https://www.facebook.com/SAWPAZA https://www.groundwork.org.za/archives/2019/news20190822-Waste_Pickers_-_A_Decade_of_Successful_Struggle.php

South African Waste Pickers Association - SAWPA

South African Waste Pickers Association - SAWPA. 194 likes · 86 talking about this. SAWPA promotes, defends and protects the interests and rights of people working on waste dumps and in the streets...

groundWork news item

Gave +1 Rep to timslab

The thing about Plastics SA, is that if they are a lobbying group, they might be the bad guys, posing as the good guys. So, I'd be careful about how much to share with them, initially. We'd have to get the lay of the land from environmental NGOs.

Industry representatives who claim to be "working closely with government" to find "solutions" is always a red flag for me. Most governments are simply not in the "solutions" business. If it's not an antagonistic relationship, then where exactly is the problem? A lack of profits? Somehow, I doubt that.

10:22 AM

Hah, I share your scepticism. But I like to hope that things are moving in the right ways. Their statements should make them feel more inclined to put money into 'active' solutions...

Possibly. It depends on a lot of factors. Think, for example, of the liquor industry. SA is plagued by alcoholism, alcohol-related road deaths and fetal alcohol syndrome. So, what does the industry do? It lobbies government to continue to allow advertising, in exchange for so-called "responsible drinking" campaigns and continued loosened control on liquor licenses. The tobacco industry did the same thing for decades, until their ads were finally banned. But they still get to operate, because they employ so many people. Job losses is always the "big stick" these lobbyists use to scare government. That's their argument against banning single-use plastic. And, if we take the "producer responsibility" principle to its logical conclusion, then plastic should either be 100% recycled or at least collected by the manufacturers. The only reason legislation hasn't forced them to do that throughout the 20th Century, is because they spend money to make sure influential people don't consider it to be their problem. Otherwise the financial burden is on the manufacturers and not on all of us. So PP, from the very beginning, is really about solving a problem that is avoidable in the first place. And I won't expect meaningful help from those who benefit from the status quo, especially if that "help" is only intended to, at best, be "green-washing" PR — or, at worst, be intended as actual sabotage. This is a political issue, whether we like it or not.

Also, SA does not have oil, but it has large coal reserves. And it has been a World leader in turning coal into petrol for almost a century. When the oil runs out, what will the World turn to, to make its plastic and run its vechicles? Bingo! You see how everything is connected?

Partnership with Breadtags For Wheelchairs posted over in #🥝oceania . Something we could try in SA, also. The breadtags charity started here, after all.

Reposted from @Bauple https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598858192990109709/643784346385514506/image0.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598858192990109709/643906185849995264/image0.jpg (edited)

12:24 AM

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598858192990109709/643784346884505604 https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598858192990109709/643906186361569308 (edited)

12:28 AM

I finally found out how to link directly to previous messages. Much easier. I've never seen anyone do it, though. And the official online help article is terribly convoluted.

Related to my previous comments on industry lobbying groups. These stories are focussed on the US, but the tactics are more or less the same, World-wide. Also posted in #just-chatting. The Intercept - The Plastic Industry's Long Fight to Blame Pollution on You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBjhSDQW9RI Democracy Now - Journalist Sharon Lerner: “How the Plastics Industry Is Fighting to Keep Polluting the World” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wZbIDPisw1U https://theintercept.com/2019/07/20/plastics-industry-plastic-recycling/ (edited)

The Intercept

The Plastic Industry's Long Fight to Blame Pollution on You

Democracy Now!

Journalist Sharon Lerner: “How the Plastics Industry Is Fighting...

How the Plastics Industry Is Fighting to Keep Polluting the World

Pushes to “recycle” plastics are one element of a massive, industry-led effort to suppress meaningful efforts to reduce plastic waste.

Afrikaans programme, but the important bits are in English: kykNET Winslyn - Informele herwinning in SA ("Informal recycling in SA") https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5JkZPxzjY

kykNET Argief

Informele herwinning in SA – WINSLYN | 22 OKT 2019 | kykNET

I am looking for anybody involved in research in plastic pollution. We have 329,000 schools in 40 countries that have an eduCCate Global Climate Change Teacher, accredited by UN CC:Learn. The aim of this programme is to support the research needed to understand the risks plastic pollution poses in Low and Middle Income Countries (LMICs) Developing Countries. To explore which interventions, policies and regulations can mitigate these risks. The outputs of the research will support economic growth and societal wellbeing by enabling a cleaner and more resilient and productive environment. If you know of someone or if you are working on research on plastic pollution, lease can you get in touch with me here: support@educcateglobal.org

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I am struggling to compile a business model and plan. Anybody that can help?

9:00 AM

If I want to recycle

and use recycled plastic to make new products, what would the business model and plan contain?

We have a #deleted-channel channel. Try searching for the business "calculator" link in there.

@hans Maybe this can help you with the basics: https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/business-tools.html

I am In south Africa I have lot of plastics I wanna start recycling business I m director of MP MJ HOLDING can somebody recommend me to a company that can partner with me to get the machine or help me with this idea of plastic recycling.. 071 498 1889 /0793259479 from limpopo province

It depends on whether you want your own machines built or not. I'm not currently aware of rental options. Check the old and new map for machine builders. The old map has more listed builders. Maybe check if they have a sales record on the bazar.

hello everyone, we have created an Instagram page come and visit us! preciousplastic.it

Hi fellow Saffas

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https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598857764655071283/671412640928628793 @mechanic Umm... No offence to Mauritius, but how about helping us start in Cape Town first?

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Hi Guys. Steve here from Down South Inc. at the southern tip of Africa.I need info on machine builders in RSA. I tried all the shortcut ideas to shred plastic and I am at a stage of throwing myself into a shredder if I had one. Any resonably priced stuff out there. It looks like everybody is jumping on the bandwagon and is charging an arm and a leg.?

Hi, @steve .down south inc.

There have only been two builders active on the forums. Cape Town & Joburg. I'm not sure if Maker Station is building, right now. I've gotten a quote for the assembled shredder box from Paarl. That's supplied without a motor. So, if you can attach a motor (maybe second-hand), somehow, you might be in business. Lionel in CT tends to advertise his own designs. But he has a second-hand V3 demo set for sale. I've had a look at them. He can build anything in V3, on request. But it's not his main business. There might be some waiting time for new orders. I think the prices are more or less in line with those in Europe. But yes, it's not an after-thought purchase. It continues to be a barrier to entry. That's why community building is so important for us. It reduces the burden on a single operator to stock a whole workspace, single-handedly.

Well, @gslabt also builds. Will you be building machines Tim?

Thanks for the info.Will ponder a bit.....

Hi .back again. Eish... thinking can be tiresome.

.I might have a solution to my problem. Going to see a local fabricator. Got Laser cutter etc. Hopefully will get him to join the forum and the community.Will let you know if I succeed. Meanwhile.will look at the ones in Paarl and the one from Lionel.Thanks for chat.

I have two local possible sources for laser-cutting. But it's a bit too early to make any promises. There has to be some cost benefit to make it a better option than what's already available. That's why I keep saying: I need some help down here.

Feel the same! I spoke to Lionel , He also is working on a plan.It looks like the biggest cost factor is the Laser cutting and machining.If we can get a Guy(or gal) with expertise but at a decent affordable price. One can put a shredder in each village and town."Our "biggest challenge is not the willpower to do it is $$$$$$

.so lets think alternatives?

How about printing our own money!

Rand not worth much anyway.

Well, it seems Maker Station has a laser cutter. But I've seen no direct offers of assistance.

Felix is super busy, though. It seems he's become a key player in set and prop building for movies and ads. So, networking with community / environmentally conscious makers is the key. I've tried, but I'm more limited than most. I'm technically disabled.

I am confident that we will make it. just stick to to vision.change the plan

Hi Guys. Steve here from Down South Inc. at the southern tip of Africa.I need info on machine builders in RSA. I tried all the shortcut ideas to shred plastic and I am at a stage of throwing myself into a shredder if I had one. Any resonably priced stuff out there. It looks like everybody is jumping on the bandwagon and is charging an arm and a leg.?

@steve .down south inc. Have you checked some of the machine auctions in the country? Unfortunately I cant recommend any Down South but a google should serve you well. You may find buying an old industrial (hopefully a small one) will give you far less headaches than building a new one

11:48 AM

I've also come across these guys building solid PP machines in JHB https://community.preciousplastic.com/map#crutchfield-engineering-

Precious Plastic Community Platform

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/674336157651435577

Thanks will check it out

Eish!... Die Suid-Afrikaners is skaam, né?

True. But why do you say so?

The link points to a new SAen on the server. And not the first to ignore this channel. I don't know... should I ping all the newcomers? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/656539223976968194/675357502971314218

The Shreddal: A pedal-powered shredder

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605683727770583050/675268121141182464

Hallo Hallo

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Quick intro: I'm Dohan, from Rustenburg, NW and recently discovered Precious Plastic and got me interested in setting up a mix workshop. but still figuring things out(researching, basic plan etc), so are basically still at square one.

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basically still at square one Yes. Most of us are. But connecting with interested people is the first step.

waar

3:19 PM

basically still at square one Yes. Most of us are. But connecting with interested people is the first step.

@Frederik C (ZA) So not pretty far either?

My living situation doesn't allow me to have tools or sufficient workspace. The nearest maker space a bit far for regular, daily trips. So, I'm looking for collaborators to see if a local, shared workspace is possible. If we apply to get municipal space for free, we'll probably have to formally register an NGO. I definitely can't afford rent.

for now i'm planning to use an outside room, not very spacious but big enough and can use a separate outside room for storage(stay on a plot, so that helps a bit). Just to get started and also would look for collaborators. where are you located?

Strand, Cape Town. I'll have access to a garage in a few months. I'll see if that helps. But there are some abandoned old factories in the area, that I have an eye on. They currently belong to the city council.

3:50 PM

The problem is, if you don't have alteration permission, it's tricky to install air filters and such.

3:54 PM

If we can get a patch of land, maybe we can build a working shed with plastic bricks supplied by those who already have working extruders.

3:59 PM

I'll be offline soon, due to load-shedding.

maybe, would most likely still need a build permit, and should be able to stand the wind especially that side

3:59 PM

Selfde hier lmga

4:00 PM

nvm, ours start at 18:00. i think?

4:01 PM

it started

I'm back around 18:30.

See you, mate

THE POWER IS BACK!

Affordable off-grid power is obviously something else to seriously look at in order to expand micro-industry in SA. Working with plastic requires a lot of heat. Heating is expensive. But we've got sun and wind in abundance.

Anyone else studied the possibility of using a parabolic dome to melt plastic , I have looked at it but one of those tomorrow projects.Built right it will melt plastic.

I'm vaguely aware of the concept. I think there might be some videos in the server chat history. I haven't checked the forum. My main problem with it, is that it's so inflexible. Useless on cloudy days and useless to part-time makers who work regular jobs in the day and can only do projects after-hours, or on weekends. Not great for product output and scaling up.

Also, in most urban environments, finding a suitably sunny spot, where it's also safe to leave the machine unattended, is a mission. I say "batteries or bust," mostly.

Well, it seems Maker Station has a laser cutter. But I've seen no direct offers of assistance. I've gotten some clarity on that: It's not the kind that can cut metal. Only plastic and wood.

Eish .just received a shocker.The NPO I work for asked me to look into alternative power recources.Solar .But to do the job that we want will cost R862 000. that is €56000.Eina.........

Is that school scheme that eTV reported on any good? I still have to look into that. Seems like you need to get a group of neighbouring buildings involved, and then sell excess

to the community scheme, as a way to pay back the investment and to eventually buy the big-ass

that you need to go off-grid. But I'm also researching completely DIY options. Self-made panels and batteries. This is exactly what carbon tax should be used for: Taking poor communities off-grid. But we all know the taxes will go "missing," as always

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You also have to factor in estimated Eskom tariffs for increased power use over the period of time you'll be using the system. Like calculating fuel-savings for an electric vehicle.

I have enough roof space . looking into longterm inverstors.Project will pay itself over 5 years.(excluding maintenance).Using straight from the inverters, no battery system .Batteries the expensive part.So what we generate , we use.Will help my part time project-Plastic recycling.Free power for the machines

In the peninsula, having wind turbines means power at night as well, for at least a few months of the year. (edited)

I like the compact vertical turbines. I'm also curious if a smaller, hot air version of the BAT (Buoyant Air Turbine) can be made. The big one uses helium.

I saw a plastic printed one on You tube.might be a great project to print the blades with recyled plastic.

Ja.

Potentially a workspace product as well. Who knows?

1:25 PM

Subcontracting turbine without electical parts.

(To͜͡͡ta͜͡ll͡y͜ b͜͡r͡a͜i͡n͜͡-s͜͡to͜͡͡r͜͡m͜͡i͡n͜͡g͜͡!͡! ) o ° ლ ( ^ ʖ͜^) ლ

http://stlfinder.com/model/savonius-darrieus-turbine/4899441

Savonius Darrieus Turbine - STLFinder

Summary To complete one needs: 2 ball bearing size Ø 19/ 6 mm (or Ø 19/ 8mm) 2 metal screws M6/ 25mm (or M8/ 30mm) , 1 metal rod Ø 10mm/ ca.300mm Super glue for the wings ca. 250g ABS and 12 ours time to print The turbine combines the advantages of the Darrieus turbine and S...

That particular one is overly complicated. And we would injection mould, not print. But the basic idea is sound.

Thanks for this link, @steve .down south inc. Interesting idea. But it ultimately comes down to Wattage output. How much "bang" you get for your "buck." Also how easy or difficult it is to make with commonly available spare parts. Also, maybe they took "Design Boom a bit too literally?

https://www.designboom.com/project/power-plant/

Maybe we have to smoke some BOOM and get all the great ideas flowing

@Frederik C (ZA) Hey... Need help please. Was trying to go through the downloaded kit from precious plastic but can't seem to know what application would open these files...

3:23 PM

@Frederik C (ZA)

I can't run the latest CAD viewers either. My computer comes out of a Pharaoh's sarcophagus.

3:26 PM

Are all the files you need .STEP ?

@Frederik C (ZA) Yep..

3:27 PM

@Frederik C (ZA) Downloaded directly from the site and they come in .step

What CAD format do you prefer?

3:33 PM

We can try to post some converted files. Otherwise you can try some online .STP file viewers. (Haven't got a specific one to recommend.)

@Frederik C (ZA) OH OK. Thanks.

Recent .STEP / .STP files should be viewable with newish versions of Solidworks, AutoCAD, Fusion 360, CATIA, Solid Edge, NX, Creo, FreeCAD, TurboCAD, Rhino, etc.

Hey Frederikc howzit going? You know all about this media so pls help, I want to find out if anyone has extruded PVC on these machines in where in the world but don't now how to use this app to do this. Can u help?

3:50 PM

Any where .....

Hi, @Lional. Are you the machine-builder Lional from Cape Town? Firstly, for any topic, do a Google search with the keywords followed by site: https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/. That limits the search to whatever is on the "old" forums. On Discord, just click the "looking glass" icon up at the top and put in your search words. That searches the entire server chat history and displays results chronologically, from newest to oldest. You can refine searches with the options on the search screen.

Yes it is I, thank you for the info, I knew to ask u

Great! Welcome.

4:30 PM

You can assign yourself a "Machine Shop" or "Workspace" role in the #🖐start-here channel.

I'm enjoying the cool, sunset sea breeze coming in across False Bay... and thinking... wasted electricity...

For reference: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/644615889236393993 And now more on the plastics industry's corruption and lies: SoCal Connected: Life in Plastic - California's Recycling Woes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=relu0XW4760

KCETSoCalConnected

S10 E1: Life in Plastic - California's Recycling Woes

@Frederik C (ZA)

7:26 PM

Not sure what I just sent you but it was in the message window?

Sorry, I missed it. I'll DM, shortly. No worries.

Hi all, just saying hello

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I was posting some photos and came across this one. This was during the veld fires at Betty's Bay last year. The smoke column filtered the sun enough so that I could look straight at it, with the naked eye. Makes it look like another planet outside, with the light change.

This is what was reported on eNEWS. Will have to try and figure out if this can be used by us, somehow. Seems a bit complicated. (?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY6MSINJn18

The Sun Exchange

A Review of Sun Exchange's 2019 | SUNEX Diaries Episode #37

Hi, I'm 14 and looking to start recycling plastic as I have a passion for making things and the environment. A few of my friends are also interested and we are looking to start a recycling workspace. If we started a gofundme campaign, would any of you be willing to help us achieve our goals by donating. We already have access to tools like a mill and a lathe at our school so really only need funding for the construction of our machinery to start out

That's a kid from the USA, BTW. He's been posting everywhere.

2:33 PM

Those poor Americans

Backpacks for school children made from recycled plastic packets – eNCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za22A7P299o (edited)

eNCA

Backpacks for school children made from recycled plastic packets

Those poor Americans

@Frederik C (ZA)I am actually English

@evanh3103 dmd u

If I remember correctly the age limit for Discord is 13. So, it's technically allowed. But that doesn't mean unrestricted access is a good thing. The internet was not invented to be a babysitter. The content here fine, but there is all kinds of child predator activity on Discord. I honestly don't know what parents are thinking.

My parents know I am on here and support the idea of precious plastic heavily. I am actually working on designing my own machines as well with input from my dad who is an engineer as he wants to be involved

Nonetheless, there is some very bad stuff out there. So, don't join stupid servers and be sensible. Even with people on this one. Don't tell people more about yourself than they need to know. And check everything with your dad.

I know more than you would expect about cyber safety as i did a cyber security programme last summer at gchq in the uk

Then you no doubt understand the concept of "social engineering." That's what I'm referring to.

It really is scary with the sorts of things you can achieve with social engineering

Precisely.

Knowing how theses attacks work allows you to protect against them which can be really helpful. I have done some "white hat hacking" or penetration testing for a couple of local businesses as well

when I have more of a design for my sheetpress, would you be willing to take a look at it for me?

Totally the wrong person to ask.

I'm not an engineer. I'm barely computer literate. I'm just a concerned citizen trying to do something about our socio-economic and plastics crisis. You can probably get some help in the #archived-machines channel.

ah Ok

FYI, Cape Townians, my friend Rob (a non-cyberspace PP member... because he can barely handle e-mail

) says getting a max size shipping container placed for us in Kuilsriver, will cost R22 000. Anyone know of a better deal?

Hey @Frederik C (ZA) Speak to shipping lines directly... You may be able to get a good deal directly but would need to do a little additional work getting a truckee with a crane...

Well, I'm not sure what Rob did, exactly. That's the first quote I've seen. What should one expect to pay, more or less, for an "end-of-life" container, with shipping and placing included?

http://www.awethucontainertraders.co.za/ try these guys.

8:02 AM

Have used them before on a project.Service is ok. delivery of container is the expensive part.

8:04 AM

But Frederikc, you almost next to the yard.cut the fence........use a wheelburrow.

delivery of container is the expensive part Ja... Just another reason to develop reliable modular structures. Like RepRap 3D-printers. The 1st workspace can build the 2nd. The 2nd can build the 3rd... and so on.

Rob is getting a container, either way. It won't be available, because it will be used to create low-cost housing. We are working on an off-grid hostel type of thing, to be used by the street people centre. The idea all along, has been to incorporate PP into the eco-system for skills transfer and job creation. And it is indeed an eco-system. For example, a "circular" token economy has to be developed, because they need to operate on a strictly cashless system. This is to make the system viable for the many recovering drug addicts in the system. But containers have been low on my priority list. Because there are plenty of unused buildings in the area. I say, use that instead. And be close to train stations so people can get to us. (edited)

7:36 AM

Frederikc, family of yours?Doug Rattray.Zululand

Why? Because of the hat?

I actually chose the picture to show off my little buddy, Sebastian the meerkat. He lives at Cheetah Outreach in Somerset West.

Hi. good looking guy, the meerkat.HaHa. He also had a meerkat .You should make him your spokesperson for recycling.

7:24 AM

Sabastian to the rescue. Sabastian says : Dont be a punk! Recycle your junk!

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You can't say no to that little face.

Greetings all. I have recently joined the group. I’m in Cape Town and reaching out to who and where in South Africa Precious Plastics is in operation? (edited)

Hi. At least four of us in CT, if I recall correctly. (edited)

Hi Dom here in CPT , any info about where to find recycled plastic ( I found Atlantic recycling and Myplas ) those Co don't sort the colours . I'm also building a large sheetpress but looking at more efficient ways to do the heating of it .

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9:23 AM

and in general , what are other fellow Capetonians doing in their field ?

Interest from established maker spaces has been "mixed." Not sure if there is anything that can truly be called a "workspace" yet. (Despite the two that were listed on the old map.) Some kind of formal or informal partnership with the Waste Pickers Association might be good. You shouldn't have any bureaucratic nonsense from them. They probably could use more customers. I think CT's layout makes functional collection points tricky. Who's going to cross the Metropole weekly / daily with a car full of plastic? Only one or two "crazies" who think it is fun. And that pushes up the cost, considerably. Also, what happens when they decide to stop doing it? I think we should learn to use resources already available to us. (edited)

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As I get older, I'm constantly finding myself in a position to "pinch myself" on a regular basis, while saying "Soooo... this is the way we have decided to live, is it? Oookkaaayyy... Remind me how humans are 'smart,' again... "

So... the first case of Covid-19 has been reported in KZN. SA gets left out on a lot of stuff... but not this, clearly. How confident are you that the Department Of Health will handle this correctly? Any bets?

SME #OnPoint with Liabo Setho | Plastic brick manufacturing plant — SABC Digital News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_pCTrP_QKo Ramtsilo Manufacturing & Construction say they will be selling plastic & sand composite bricks to Builders stores, nation-wide, starting in 2020. (edited)

SABC Digital News

SME #OnPoint with Liabo Setho | Plastic brick manufacturing plant

ICYMI: PP global survey: https://preciousplastic.com/survey https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/603872351251202059/686987131616231436

Hi Guys, I've just joined here, but been following the youtube channel a bit, but this Discord is amazing, and so much easier to get in contact with people than before. I have just moved in up the West Coast, and hoping to get involved in some recycling activities, and make it a business venture, with the view to employing some people at the same time.

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Scenes from the Cape Town CBD.

4:37 PM

Local makers have, so far, focussed on providing hand-washing stations and soap in the slums, where a shortage of taps and running water (a permanent "day zero") is an ongoing issue. Here's one, relatively simple design.

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Beautifully simple, this is worth sharing at the covid-19 channel.

This YouTube channel from Maker Station in CT has some tutorials to build low-tech hand-washing stations including the Tippy Tap and the SkarrelWash (shown below.) The idea is to hang the bottle on a rope, so that it can be squeezed with a knee or elbow, to make it sort of "hands free." A piece of irrigation tubing or a pen's outer casing can be inserted into the squeeze bottle. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC583P-clBpXn-JnGSQc9VHQ/videos

Appropriate Tech COVID19

This group connect and gauge interest to share, workshop and coordinate appropriate tech projects, repairs, design, builds, deployment etc. as the need arise...

These temporary sinks are being set up at the homeless camps in Observatory, CT. They haven't said how many are available. Seems like the CBD camp could use some. They only have JoJo tanks with taps low to the ground.

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The homeless camps appear to be a friggin' disaster, BTW. Instead of quarantining the homeless, it seems the government has infected them with the virus. They've turned into riot situations. Nobody knows what's going on. The government was fine with cameras around when they set up the camps. Now, not so much. (edited)

Greetings Im new on this platform and I want to join the precious plastic community. Im planning to start a pro mixing working place in Chipinge,east Zimbabwe. I would like to know if there is any machine shop in SA I can purchase machines , tools and moulds from or any precious plastic centre which I can collaborate with or help me in doing a market research.

If they see your message, they might respond, later. In the current crisis, I'm not making any suggestions.

@Brian Tinoota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrR58HLxcnQ&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=rPv4kdLPx8WKceuY%3A6 They might sell machines for you

davehakkens

Our workspace is locked down and you can buy EVERYTHING. #corona

Hello everybody . We are engaged in the production of equipment for plastic processing. https://yadi.sk/i/BDkK3o9tFDOhWA Link to the video about our production. We deliver to all over the world, we are in Krasnodar. Here is the first time and not always convenient. 89370035993 WhatsApp. A set of 4 machines 350 thousand rubles. We are engaged in 1.5 years. Dave's equipment has been improved. And exceeded productivity. Delivery is paid separately. But everything is negotiated. Watching where. .

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Anyone in South Africa that can make me the Presspress including the cooling press and the Shredder Pro?

6:36 PM

Im based in Mozambique!

Depends how long you can wait. Much of the country's supply chain is still shut down. And the builders need permits to operate. Cross-border shipping is open, but likely to be delayed.

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Hey. Thanks. Yes, I know - just need someone that can get me a quote and give me timeline after lock down is lifted.

Depends how long you can wait. Much of the country's supply chain is still shut down. And the builders need permits to operate. Cross-border shipping is open, but likely to be delayed.

@Frederik C (ZA)

@Ruben Morgado Contact whomever is still listed. I haven't checked if any local builders have started building 4V machines, yet. It's currently a moot point for most of us in SA. And it's a side-line business for the builders. They are professional mechanical engineers. I'm not aware of any full-time workspaces. https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

@Frederik C (ZA) I found someone and negotiating right now! Thanks

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Hi There. I am new to the platform and I am looking at starting a mix workspace in Johannesburg and KwaZulu Natal. Are any of the other South African's here operating a mix workspace and if so do you have access to data of the percentage plastic recycled? A business case per say? I work for an NGO and we are looking for funding for the machinery and to partner with organisations in order to create jobs.

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@Frederik C (ZA) wants to get started too.

Ryoma do you know if anyone has an operating facility?

No, I am not from South africa...

It seems like most of the South Africans are based in Cape Town.

1:00 PM

Oh ok thanks Ryoma

Let me find it for you.

1:02 PM

I don't see any in Capetown in the map of Preciousplastic. There are a machine shop and a community point in Pretonia.

1:03 PM

Ye I am in touch with the machine shop. Ok cool, I wanted to just see what the situation was like for SA and to see if there was any data available.

ok. cool.

Do you perhaps know how much plastic a mix workspace could reduce/recycle?

So I am guessing you need a data to convince funding?

I am needing a business case.

1:04 PM

Your guess is one hundred percent.

1:05 PM

Story of my life and one which is soooo important for our planet

Not sure.

1:07 PM

Mix workspace can vary by the machines you use. Therefore, I can't calcurate the costs.

1:07 PM

Which machines do you have or plan to get?

1:13 PM

Use business tools.

V3 single axial shredder ;Injection moulder , injection moulder stand

1:15 PM

what is business tools?

Let's DM. You might be satisfied.

@roxydovey If there are full-time workspaces, I'm not aware of them. The industrial recyclers are already doing their own thing. The cost of entry for hobbyists is too high, because of the machine prices. I'm not in a position to properly research what the exact problem is. My questions about usable data for the SA market have so far been met with silence. Maybe you can do better.

Hello guys, I have something special to ask you. Im funding a startup to plastic recycle with a v4 workspace and a game for mobile that I've been designing for 2 years now, I'm really close to getting real funding with this investor that came to me, but she requested I presented her more accurate market data. Since small scale and on demand plastic recycling facilities are RARE here in Brazil, I ask you, could you who works with plastic products please answer this formulary? https://forms.gle/aM1VV6eWDDoSHD9N9 Google Docs

Help us know better before we start plastic recycling!

We aim at creating wider knowledge among the universe of small / medium scale PLASTIC RECYCLING! Besides, the results of this research will give aditional, real world data for an investor + startup relationship that just started within a specific project in Brazil called Plasm...

Since there's not much else going on: Here's a new SA-based e-commerce platform, launched this week. Mall4Makers https://mall4makers.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n26dZXAjvHc

How-To Open Source COVID19 Builds

M4M join us 2020

https://potchefstroomherald.co.za/72692/nwu-engineers-develop-food-atm/

dustinwetdewich

NWU engineers develop "Food ATM" - Potchefstroom Herald

It is no secret that millions of South Africans are currently suffering the impacts of the Coronavirus's lockdown regulations.

Thank you Frederick

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Hi Dave Abcac, I live in the Cape Town area...Where are you situated in the West Coast Area. Don't want to overlap anyone.

We can create a localized map, if someone else is willing to staff a community point, at least on a part-time basis. I'm not willing to take sole responsibility for maintaining a database. The community point itself, doesn't need a fixed physical location. It just needs to define a geographical area to serve. And have options for meeting venues in the defined area. Personally, I would like some idea about if lockdowns will continue, before making any plans. I was aiming to get at least some income from tourism, by offering accommodation. That's totally dead, until further notice.

@Noeline Something I posted on the plastic and sand tiles. (You've probably seen it.) https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888903994376201/682875629733019678

@Frederik C (ZA) Thank you

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I found this, today. Cement is expensive and has a huge carbon footprint. I would prefer experimenting with the "densifier" method that only uses used cooking oil. But, this is interesting, nonetheless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4n1-25z1mM (edited)

Warm Heart Worldwide

Styrofoam Bricks DIY

Interesting bricks!

Also, to ping someone correctly, you must include their ID number, after the username. So, it will look like this [@]Noeline#4652 before you post the message, and like this @Noeline in the posted message. You should see a list of server users whenever you type "@". (edited)

Thank you Frederick. Will do

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBDWhUxpW5u/?igshid=bnbck5flya1o we are operating a space in Durban

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9:45 AM

@Frederik C (ZA) @roxydovey we operate a plastic studio in Durban www.upcyclethefuture.com

Hello

Are you from #🌽africa ?

Actually, from New York

Let's chat in #just-chatting

Actually, from New York I suspect another invite link that points to the wrong channel

I don't think so, it was just because someone online was here

we operate a plastic studio in Durban www.upcyclethefuture.com Thanks @mechanic. Noted. I knew you made the combs and stuff. Wasn't sure about the scope of the operation.

Storm surge in Greenpoint, Cape Town.

Hi all, I've just come across this concept and was wondering if there is any scope for a small operator to make money out of it. I'm in Cape Town and I see a lot of plastic recycle collections happening. I know The City has lots of huge plastic recycle facilities, are there any small independents, or is it all tied up by big business ?

are there any small independents, or is it all tied up by big business ? Good question. No viable small operators that I can think of. Unless you maybe consider small artists' studios who upcycle trash into niche "artsy-fartsy" stuff, mostly to sell to rich foreign tourists. The main problem with our economy is that production capacity is still largely consolidated into the hands of industrialists. Also, SA produces it's own virgin plastic locally. (Mostly, if not exclusively from Sasol.) The industry has a lot of clout, and plays a lot of "greenwashing" PR games in the media, regarding recycling. We may, ironically, be well ahead of European countries in terms of recycling capacity. But, also ironically, that changes the economics of how PP can work here. At least, that's what I think. Proper, unbiased market research would help a lot, to answer that question. (edited)

But then, there's also the "trash mountains" on the Cape Flats. Have you seen those things?

Look at that, and tell me we are "winning."

I suppose there are pros and cons to having a large, centralized recycling system. The City Council claims that they save tens of millions of Rand on landfill fees, annually, from the "Think Twice" partnerships. But what are those "savings" being re-invested in, in terms of sustainable waste management? The citizens seem to be stuck in this kind of "toxic wishful thinking," that once their trash (sorted and washed, or not) "magically" disappears from the pavement in front of their house, that it will inevitably end up in the right place. But does it?

On further research, lots of very big players in the market, buying from collectors, washing, chipping and extruding onto pallets for re sale. Not sure how the smaller, one man show model suggested here will work in SA.

4:37 PM

Unless you buy from one of the collector companies, chip and extrude into specific moulds to make a product. Not sure how this will work......any ideas from fellow Capetonians.

I can think of some product ideas. That, in itself, is not hard. I think our thinking should be split into related, by ultimately separate categories. • Hobbyists • Fundraising projects • Semi-industrial • Tackling the plastic crisis You can do all of them, but don't confuse one for the other. Also, there might be market opportunities I don't know about yet. That's what community development is for. (edited)

And it requires South Africans to actually agree on something, and take an active and speculative interest on a tricky but important topic that requires more than 5 minutes of attention. So, ja... "Good luck with that pipedream"

4:56 PM

Also, the average person simply can't drop R50 000 to R100 000 on a speculation. Totally not going to happen. But that doesn't mean nothing can be done or that there are no options. But as I said... it requires more than a 5-minute attention span. (edited)

Also, people in Cape Town actually have built PP machines, purely for educational purposes. So... "never say never."

Never trust those who say it's easy. Never trust those who say it shouldn't be done.

Ya, i've found over many years in business the South African mentality is never to work together, rather try to screw someone over.

11:23 AM

Or just cut prices to such a degree that no one is making money. sad....

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The "Waste Pickers" or "Reclaimers" are starting to get more organized, these days. I mean, they have successfully taken protest action against some municipalities (to change waste management policy) and recently (seemingly) successfully lobbied government to be declared "essential services."

12:06 PM

So, they are at the start or "ground floor" of the recycling value chain, and should be consulted and included in forming strategies.

the South African mentality is never to work together So much for ubuntu, huh?

Plastic buildup at the Black River (Swartrivier) mouth, Paardeneiland, Cape Town.

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is there some OS design for a boom-net or boom-machine "catcher" for river/shore plastic yet?

Not that I'm aware of. But any patents on existing designs can't be easy to enforce.

Downside of that in the future, people could rely on those machines

I would think the best is to apply for an ocean cleanup machine from the town. They are autonomous and before you get the money to get the tech yourself at least it cleans

11:20 AM

They plan to put them in a 1000 rivers, check if yours is not on the list

are they already designed/produced?

Plastic buildup at the Black River (Swartrivier) mouth, Paardeneiland, Cape Town.

@Frederik C (ZA) we can only see the tip of the plasticberg

you could get one of those "pool cleaner nets"

9:42 PM

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pool+clening+net&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

9:43 PM

may end up "stirring it up"

9:43 PM

i think it may be worth it to experiment with manual boom/net laying and pulling

Someone else actually posted that picture on another local discussion group. I got a tip on a local NGO that focusses on river clean-up, seemingly with floatation devices. I'm very busy now. Will look into it in a few months.

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Also, I live on the opposite side of the city. But I'm sure there will be problem sites everywhere.

Does anyone have any experience with setting up recyling in KwaZulu-Natal?

One in Durban: See https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/720544109353500722 Also, keep checking the map for newcomers. I might set up a local map, later. I was deciding on a system when the lockdowns hit. It's on hold, for now.

Just joined. I sent the DFX files for the shredder off to a local laser cutting company. They asked me to remove the stress relief holes on the thicker parts because apparently this will burn the metal. Is this right? I am a software dev by trade and can use Fusion very basically so I won’t be able to do that without a ton of effort. Any chance anyone else has v4 shredder laser cut files for South African companies ? :p I’m guessing their laser isn’t strong enuf so they need to increase the speed which then causes the burns?

Hmm... Last I checked, my Cape Town supplier was still making only V3. Maybe the Joburg builders can help? They seem to be the only ones selling machines on a semi-regular basis. Lional Linde in CT sorted out some of the spacing issues on V3 with the local steel specs. V4 is a new ballgame.

How’s the V3 holding up? They changed out the SS for hardened steel so it lasts longer but surely that’s only an issue if you do it commercially, all day? For a hobby / home user SS should be enough so I might not even need to go hardened steel?

8:58 AM

Does anyone know of anyone selling shredded HDPE / PP in SA? Probably a better idea to get some items made first before going ‘all-in’ :p

Probably a better idea to get some items made first before going ‘all-in’ Yes, I haven't come across any Collection Points / shredding stations. Mostly because there's hardly any secondary market. Locally, it's all about 3D-printing. But then they complain about the import cost of good quality filament. "Rich boys with expensive toys." The commercial studios can probably courier you a bucket or two of flakes, if you don't mind the fees.

How’s the V3 holding up? I don't have regular access to a shredder. I can't really tell you, yet. I've only seen one working machine in CTP. I also need to learn the CAD basics. Then trying to negotiate bulk prices with my local laser-cutter might be worth the effort. It's the same basic problem: Without a workspace, how do I justify the cost? I have to start from scratch. And, so far, local, unsubsidised maker spaces have not proven to be sustainable. At least, not generally. Personally, I think the local mindset is wrong. But there isn't much to be done about that.

I checked the map. (I sometimes follow my own suggestions.)

Newcomer: https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/dale-nolan Shredder ahoy!

Doh! I actually saw him on the map but at the time I was looking for something else and then now when I realized I should just get some raw shredded material the two pieces of data didn’t seem to link up. Eish! Thank you.

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I don't know if the plan is to have a mobile workspace on a boat, that can make coastal stops around the Metropole from Melkbos to Gordons Bay. But if it is, I like it.

I wonder if the wildlife service will bother with an autopsy on the humpback whale carcass that washed up yesterday, a few kilometres from me. It's the third one in the region in five years. The first one was right on my doorstep. A young adult blue whale. I think they mostly just take tissue samples, and check for predator wounds, considering that we now have some very elusive orcas in the bay. I would be interested to know on what level ocean plastic contributes to the deaths. The whales accidentally gulp hundreds of kg of plastic, their guts get clogged, and they essentially starve to death. (edited)

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perhaps you could take samples from different levels and do some math, or call up a few organizations being interested, well, or a big knife

9:17 PM

my microplastic tracker project didn´t move a mm, but there is data for MP ocean as I´ve seen a number of times

I did some reading. On average, 14 whale carcasses show up in the Metropole each year. I had no idea it was so many. It seems I wasn't paying attention. The freight shipping lane out of the harbour might account for the majority. Last year, a ship propeller cut a humpback in half in Table Bay. Officials say fishing nets are the leading cause of death. Go figure. We could probably rule out plastic as a major cause, when it comes to filter feeders. Still, the impact is probably not zero. It never is. Anyway, my curiosity is peaked now.

we have that here https://strandings.org/ I can safely say that we have at least 3 large whales a year that are either found stuffed with plastic or entangled, just for northern Scotland. All the local sea birds have plastic in their guts, it used to be 70% 5 years ago. We have a local Uni looking into this. https://www.birdsanddebris.com/ All the mussels, most langoustines, the plankton etc... have been found to have plastic in their body. It is costly to analyse these as the plastic can be shredded to very small sizes by the animal stomachs but it usually is there.

Scottish Marine Animal Stranding Scheme

Birds & Debris | Highlighting the Global Impact of Plastic Pollution

Birds & Debris is a website launched by the Environmental Research Institute, UHI to highlight the global impact of plastic pollution.

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Involving volunteer "citizen scientists" might be the only feasible way to start getting better data. It's a constant battle to figure out what use, if any, information gathering actually has, if no-one looks at the bigger picture. If you can't stop a mass extinction, I suppose you can at least thoroughly document it, for the sake of posterity.

Just imagine the possibilities if the humans of the Pleistocene had kept a written record of what had happened to the planet's mega-fauna. Who knows what kind of ripple-effect it could have led to? (edited)

Just imagine the possibilities if the humans of the Pleistocene had kept a written record of what had happened to the planet's mega-fauna. Who knows what kind of ripple-effect it could have led to?

@Frederik C (ZA) It is in Lascau

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascaux

Yeah, maybe they thought: "We need to leave this warning for the smart people who will find this after a few thousand years. 'Cause the local dumb-asses aren't listening. "

Lascaux

Lascaux (French: Grotte de Lascaux, "Lascaux Cave"; English: , French: [lasko]) is a complex of caves near the village of Montignac, in the department of Dordogne in southwestern France. Over 600 parietal wall paintings cover the interior walls and ceilings of the cave. The pa...

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Blombos Cave here in our peninsula has them beat by about 54 000 years, though. Our cave paintings tend to be more "psychedelic." Maybe depictions of what they saw in the "spirit world" during trances. The ancient San people knew how to "party".

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In the beginning... There was open source... https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/history-prehistory-cavemen-neanderthal-inventor-invention-wmi111018_low.jpg

Hi all. My goodness so I am a bit of noob when it comes to discord. And only now saw the south African pp channel. My goodness. Anyway... So guess what. We are building the Pro machines

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Hi I am keen to start a processing plant but have some questions regarding the fumes. 1. Does your machine come with the fume extractor?2. Where do I purchase the carbon filter masks and filters for the extractors?3. Is this something I would have to change often?4. How clean/environmentally friendly is the extruding process. It would be backward thinking to create a plant like this which still negative impacts the planet through pollution. Please can you educate me on the fumes/pollution side of the business. Kind RegardsHarry Vlachos

It would be backward thinking to create a plant like this which still negative impacts the planet through pollution. Well, it depends on how you think about it. The whole reason an opportunity for micro-factories exists, is because big business continuously fails to step up and take responsibility. Hence the global Plastic Crisis. And anything we do as isolated individuals, is laughably small compared to the sheer scale of ecological damage done by plastic and plastic processing every day. If you do nothing about it, obviously, you do nothing. If you wait for governments and industries to wake up, you might as well just do nothing. If you engage in decentralized, micro-manufacturing, you're probably still doing some harm. But it's slightly less harm. And that excludes whatever economic benefits there might be. As I've said before: (https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/722099555054649495 )

I think our thinking should be split into related, by ultimately separate categories.
• Hobbyists
• Fundraising projects
• Semi-industrial
• Tackling the plastic crisis

You can do all of them, but don't confuse one for the other.

As for local equipment supplies... as usual, anything I can tell you is theoretical. I'm still a spectator in all this. There's no way I can finance a whole workspace on my own. Hopefully people with workspaces (part-time or otherwise) will chime in. Also, I'm afraid that my general impression, so far, is that the locals don't take the fumes seriously. I could be wrong.

9:59 PM

In case you missed it, here are the basics on fumes: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety https://youtu.be/bsj6qHHLynk

davehakkens

Precious Plastic - Safety and plastic fumes (part 2.2)

Thanks Frederikc yeah I watched that fumes video, its a lot to take in. Ill keep doing my research but it seems if you use carbon filters correctly it should minimize the pollution (ideally). Hopefully someone else can chime in and give advise on fumes

7:11 AM

Can someone tell me if I made plastic bricks would they be able to build low cost housing for low income earners?

Regarding bricks: See my post from 7 March: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/685676087602315292 If they managed to get certification, it should be doable. However, the additives might make the bricks non-recyclable. Plastic roof tiles, mixed with river sand, are pretty much stuck in their original composition too. But they can theoretically be remelted and reshaped.

neat

I almost forgot about this: There's a proposed recipe using polystyrene too. https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/719473492935966771

Hi, anyone from South Africa Taken on the challenge and built one of the machines yet?

Registered machine shops have come and gone from the database. Not sure why. We are on version 2 of the map now. One Army coming in December (I think). We seem to lose builders on each version of the map.

I hear about hobbyist builders from time to time. Anyway, anyone listed as a "workspace" has at least one machine in the production line. (edited)

i see i see, ive just started building myself an Injection machine, quite fun tbh

Keep us posted. Let us know what it costs and where you can deliver to. Maybe someone would like to buy one. Having someone to help with maintenance / repairs is always preferable. Which is why we should build up regional contacts. Preferably all workspaces should have a local mechanic available. Even better is training everyone to build and service machines. (edited)

I will definitely keep you posted on the Cost and how its going. I did however notice that Heating Bands are extremely expensive here in SA, need to see if i can get it much cheaper. If all goes well i would definitely be willing and able to build and deliver, will keep you updated

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Every supplier needs some kind of cost-cutting "ace up the sleeve." Like access to second-hand spare parts or scrap. Or cheaper laser-cutting, bulk or otherwise. We are always at a disadvantage regarding shipping rates and currency exchange rates.

Yeah, my biggest problem right now is finding a barrel/pipe that is suitable for the melting and etc. Not actually sure how thick the pipe must be and in what specific material. Thats holding me back at this moment in time

See if the nerds in #archived-machines can help you. I can't remember if anything specific was mentioned about local stock on the old forum. The local builders didn't seem to be very specific about their material choices. Tim Slab had an early thread on it, prior to V4. @gslabt

Any advice? Tim from Joburg was on the V4 team. I don't think he's on Discord much.

Let me see if i can message them quick at #archived-machines

Hello I am new to the "Precious Plastic Family". I am looking to help were I can. I have experience in Web (NODE.js), Apps(FLUTTER), IOT(Arduino, Raspberry Pi, Communication and 3D printing - I run a farm) And can code in ["C#", "Python", "JavaScript", "HTML", "CSS", "BASH", "SQL", "C++", "Dart"].

Hi, @talhahpatelia On the coding side maybe a custom open-source Discord bot. But the overall usefulness will depend on what One Army offers us. Discord has won the battle in terms of drawing eyeballs, though. It stands a chance of beating FB Messenger in terms of total users (if it hasn't already.) The key draw-cards are: A) the ease of creating a new server and B) mobile chat with customizable notifications. The only thing that has bothered me from the beginning is the lack of E2E encryption. But I've noticed there are already 3rd party extensions that allow key sharing and posting encrypted text in the chat stream. (edited)

3D-printing (3DP) has a following in the community, with a specific view towards using waste plastic, of course. We just haven't formally come up with a way to co-ordinate a knowledge base for it. Ideally, folks with experience in open-source designs like RepRap, or similar, should take the lead. I haven't "fished" around the local 3DP groups that much. Since the C19 outbreak, they seem pretty focussed on sticking with what they know. Not the best time for experiments. Especially with the economy crashing.

Does anyone know where i can get a steel pipe please

its impossible to find

Posted on a local makers group: https://steelonline.co.za/ I have no personal experience with it.

SteelOnline | Home

SteelOnline is an online supplier of Mild Steel and Reinforcing Steel products to retail customers. We offer a full range of steel products that will not only conform to industry standards, but your order will be strapped, bundled and tagged for delivery to your requirements.

12:32 PM

Oh, I see it says "retail customers." Maybe not relevant.

@/puppy did you have a look at Ambro steel?

i didnt, do they have anything? @Musoengineering

@/puppy may be we can get in touch directly since we are on the same platform. Im based in Johannesburgh 0787008880

sure thing, will send you a whatsapp soon

@Frederik C (ZA) I am trying to experiment with ways to build some machines to plastic manage (sorting types) using robotic and 3d printing, then create a feedback loop for the machines doing the sorting using RepRap. I will post updates. If anyone has some interesting ideas and would like to help pls message me and lets see how we can implement 21st centaury tech into waste management. PreciousPlastic

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Ja, and just generally look "busy" so that they don't take our channel away.

i would be a lot busier if i had my round tubing to finish

@/puppy You're looking for stock in Joburg? If you put down the specifications / dimensions I'll ask on the makers groups. I don't have direct contacts.

Yes, I am krugersdorp side. Struggling to find anything

the specifications / dimensions

https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/building-machines-in-south-africa/ I went "rummaging in the basement" and found the old thread. Some mention of pipes, there. Check it out.

Quick links: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/ https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/create/howto https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to Shredder calculator: https://will-it-shred.netlify.app/ https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/will-it-shred/ (edited)

Frederik C (ZA) pinned a message to this channel. 11/21/2020 1:26 PM

I always forget the URL.

Pinned it for quick reference.

@talhahpatelia Are the plasma cut parts you're looking for different from laser cut parts? Or is it pretty much the same thing? Also in which city / town?

my fellow countrymen! Very glad to see that this thread is active

2:22 AM

Can someone please direct me to production timelines, like how long does it take to extrude a 25x25x1000mm beam with the basic machine

2:22 AM

Also the materials in the Bazar seems to be unreasonably expensive when converted to Rand, for eg 10x 25x25x1000mm beams go for R4000!! And like R20.5k for a garden bench...https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/products/furniture/garden-bench/

plastic tuinbank

duurzame tuinbank

2:24 AM

I’m busy with the workshop calculator and trying to work out the costs without actually having used the machines

@Frederik C (ZA) seems like you’re the info machine haha

Frederik C (ZA)

See if the nerds in #archived-machines can help you. I can't remember if anything specific was mentioned about local stock on the old forum. The local builders didn't seem to be very specific about their material choices. Tim Slab had an early thread on it, prior to V4. @gslabt

Any advice? Tim from Joburg was on the V4 team. I don't think he's on Discord much.

Hehe, not on discord much at all! Its quite hard for me to keep up with everything here. If youd like to check out the topic you can here: https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/building-machines-in-south-africa/

Tim Slab

Experiences with building machines in South Africa - Dave Hakkens

Hello.. there are quite a few people interested in (and in the process of) building these machines in SA. This topic is to serve as a platform to share all the trials and errors I’ve had in - Dave Hakkens

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Theres another really good bunch of people out in Kyasands. Theyre currently building the first set of v4 production machines. They will probably be the first in the country (maybe continent??) to produce em. All local baby!!

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I'm helping with a house move for the next two days. So, I'll be offline most of the time. Basically no "safe" way to do it during the pandemic. Hoping for the best.

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@gslabt where’s kyasands?

I'm assuming it's Kya Sands. An informal suburb of Joburg.

There are a lot of these "guerilla" builders in the "wilderness" who never put up map pins or announce their projects on the forums. So, then we have no idea how big the community actually is.

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Bought the shredder blade assembly from a guy yesterday, such a time saver.

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Anyone familiar with PlasticBank?

I'm vaguely familiar with it. I know they are operating in Haiti. Are they now here too? We concluded in earlier discussions, last year, that the big corporations under-writing them, and their for profit status, makes the whole thing look a bit suspicious. (edited)

But, in principle, blockchain is probably the only way to create viable poverty alleviation supply chain auditing. Blockchain systems are now also being suggested to "clean up" the African conflict mineral industry. Especially for, but not limited to, the cobalt being used in lithium batteries. Maybe too little, too late. But who knows? (edited)

I hope @gslabt or someone else copied the text from "Building machines in South Africa," because we might not get the info back. We'll see what the crazy Dutchman does on 4 December.

Maybe we can get some blogs going specific to building each machine in SA.

Frederik C (ZA)

@talhahpatelia Are the plasma cut parts you're looking for different from laser cut parts? Or is it pretty much the same thing? Also in which city / town?

They should be the same, I am based in Johannesburg, Killarney

Tim mentioned the place where he got laser-cut parts. I forgot the name. We have a local place at The Interchange in Somerset West. I think it's called "Bevan," or something like that. Haven't checked their prices. I can't do CAD stuff at the moment. All I could do, is pick up ordered parts and ship them to someone using a cheaper courier. But I also have no recommendation on that front

If you have money to burn... or flush, as the case may be...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294137530/the-first-desktop-waterjet-cutter

The First Desktop Waterjet Cutter

Cut any material with digital precision using high pressure water. A compact waterjet for every workshop.

I'm doing some digging on the laser-cutting. I just need to check a few things, regarding feedback from makers and such. Then we can discuss prices. Stay tuned.

We are cleaning up our Discord and reducing less active channels. Which means grouping regions.. This channels was the most active one in Africa, so you guys are now called "Africa". Hope you guys are ok having some more friends in here

As long as we don't confuse the hell out of everyone, I suppose the chat could be useful. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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To clarify, this used to be the channel for South Africa (ZA). (edited)

@Precious Plastic it's great.

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To build the shredder 2.1, do you really need a full sheet of 3mm, 5mm and 6mm to do your laserfiles? Kindly respond promptly. @Precious Plastic

Hello. Not quite sure which is best channel for this now. Putting here as we are based in and focussed on Africa. Does anyone know of a source of open-source (or cheap) UI icons related to litter? In particular looking for: 1. Detection/Scanning . 2. Hand Picking up a bottle (e.g. a PET water bottle) 3. Eye spotting a bottle 4. Depositing a bottle in a bin or skip (a normal MSW receptacle)

@Deleted User Google Image Search allows you to set the licensing of the images shown. You can choose to see only images without copyright. I think that's your best option to find something good. (edited)

[ZA] The old eponymous forums of the figuratively dead Dutch guy (who shall not be named) are back in a read-only archived version. So you can go read about "Building Machines In South Africa." (P.S.: Sign me up for death by chocolate too! It's much better than most alternatives.) (edited)

I'm open to ideas about organizing the chat to make giving feedback simpler. For now, we can just add the country code to the top of a post. So, "ZA" for South Africa, "NA" for Namibia, "BW" for Botswana, "NG" for Nigeria, etc. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_3166_country_codes Putting your country code in your server "nickname" (like I did) can also help. (Click the dots next to the server name and select Change nickname.) You can also put your location in your status description. Click your user avatar on the bottom left, and select Set status > Set custom status. Type something and set how long it should be displayed. Note that it is displayed on all the servers you have joined, as opposed to nicknames, which are server-specific.

List of ISO 3166 country codes

The International Organization for Standardization (ISO) created and maintains the ISO 3166 standard – Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions. The ISO 3166 standard contains three parts: ISO 3166-1 – Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions – Part 1: Country codes defines code...

Frederik C (ZA)

@Deleted User Google Image Search allows you to set the licensing of the images shown. You can choose to see only images without copyright. I think that's your best option to find something good. (edited)

Thanks. We had already done that, not much copyright-free (or even copyrighted) for these 'memes'. A lot of nice drawings through (too big/detailed for icons).

Well, you probably won't find exactly what you want, since each app has its own design aesthetic. But you could combine elements from vector icons, if you have a vector graphics editor. Assuming you use icons that have no usage restrictions at all. Combining pieces of Creative Commons clip art, is a bit of a "grey area," I suppose. But there are thousands of scrollable vector icons listed under "free" and "environment" on https://www.vecteezy.com/, for example. And size doesn't really matter with the SVG format. That's the main advantage.

It’s been an amazing time building these version 4 Pro machines. The assembly drawings and CAD file were done nicely and easy to follow. We had some difficulty on the shredder Pro schematics with the PCB board layout but figured it out eventually there some really tight tolerances on the shredder pro e.g. the blades couldn’t slide on the hex shaft. But next we will increase the tolerances slightly. The machines are ready for transportation down to Durban

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@Michael L Looks good. Where is your workshop? Are you with Crutchfield Engineering?

@Frederik C (ZA) that is us yes

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In Kya Sands

Oh, okay. That's what Tim was talking about. You're not "sneaky guerillas," you're on the map. That's probably the first V4 in the country? Maybe? Also, are you still using General Profiling for laser-cutting? They are on my shortlist of suppliers for Gauteng. Do you have anyone else to recommend?

@Frederik C (ZA) nope general profiling is the go to guys when it comes to laser cutting. They do take a week or so to complete an order but they are generally very good. We sent in the files from Precious plastic and they took care of the rest.

So, there's one highly recommended supplier for you, @talhahpatelia . ( https://www.generalprofiling.co.za/) I just like to get a list of two or three, if possible, for price comparison. It's good to have options.

Frederik C (ZA)

So, there's one highly recommended supplier for you, @talhahpatelia . ( https://www.generalprofiling.co.za/) I just like to get a list of two or three, if possible, for price comparison. It's good to have options.

Thank you @Frederik C (ZA) , I currently only have 3D printers

, I am hoping to start with laser cutting in the future. I have a few people that I trust, DM me if you interested.

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Hiya, I started assembling a shredder in Senegal. (Near Mbour) Currently looking for bearings, UCFL204 or something compatible. Anyone happen to know a place to check?

Hello

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Lots of waste lying around here in Africa . Anyone here from Africa too

hello. i am failing to access the bazar, any one help?

We need location specifics, please. The continent is big and diverse, as you know. See the pinned post.

Frederik C (ZA) pinned a message to this channel. 12/12/2020 5:06 PM

@komaki Try asking in #deleted-channel. You can also post questions in #archived-bazar-sellers if you are registered. See the channel description.

Hello Guys , please I need to work with someone that does any work related to making fabric/clothing materials from plastic kindly share contact if you know any of reach out to me @ +234 818 528 9819

@Loluwa_C Look at PolyFloss Factory, if you haven't already: https://www.thepolyflossfactory.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEblQ3-43bA

The Polyfloss Factory

WIRED UK

PolyFloss: the Fluffy Science of Plastic Candyfloss | WIRED

Thank you @Frederik C (ZA), will do that and let you know how it goes

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Hello folks. I( fro. Zambia) just recently joined this wonderful team dealing with plastics. Am trying to build one to solve plastic problem but I need someone to work with financially. If anyone is willing to help/ fund. Kindly WhatsApp me (+260974378843)

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We have a lot of waste here and no one is working on this so I have taken this initiative to build these wonderful machines

Thank you @Frederik C (ZA) I was able to send them a mail although I am yet to get a reply

Not the best time of year... or the best year.

Thanks, I understand

Is there anyone who can sell me a shredder I'm at Pietermaritzburg

[ZA] There are 3 variations of shredder. I'll add the Bazar link to the pinned messages. Always check the Bazar first, based on location. And obviously check the map. To my knowledge, there are currently 3 active machine shops. 2 in the Cape Town region, one in Gauteng.

@Frederik C (ZA) Hi there! This is in response to your message yesterday regarding plastic waste and brick-making in East Africa. I'd love to know if anybody here is already making construction materials from plastic waste? Would anybody be able to tell me which machinery I need to do this? As we spoke about yesterday Frederik, I have worked in East African countries a fair bit, and have a good connection with a handful of NGOs/charities out there, so if there is anything we can help each other with (a knowledge share etc) I'm happy to do that

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There's a lot to get into. What I can tell you is this: • PP has 2 interlocking brick designs. They are not recommended for habitable buildings. They are suggested for small storage sheds. The bricks are not necessarily mortared, but they probably can be. • A company in South Africa (SA) was cleared to sell bricks, made primarily from waste plastic, in a major store chain. That probably means that the bricks at least passed the certification requirements of the national bureau of standards. • Plastic and sand composite paving stones and roof tiles are commercially sold in SA and Uganda (and probably other countries too.) See https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888903994376201/682875629733019678 • To make PP bricks, you need a washing system to clean waste plastic, a shredder to make small plastic flakes, and depending on the brick size, an extruder or injector with or without heated aluminium brick moulds. See: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-extruded-plastic-bricks https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-an-interlocking-brick https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/design-an-injection-mould Apart from bricks, plastic beams / "timber" can possibly be used for construction. Commercial plastic "timber" is treated with additional additives and are made with high-pressure compactors. They are extremely heavy, and tend to be used for outdoor decking, pergolas and picnic furniture. PP doesn't currently have a standardized process for "timber," but their machines can make beams and sheets. Combining them in different ways can create different thickness and load-bearing. PP also has a modular dome skeleton design. It can be covered with a tarp, or something similar (maybe aircrete depending on your needs.) (edited)

Probably, making bricks from waste PET bottle and carbon black could close the gap in using polymer brick for habitable structure, whereby it has properties strong enough especially when the bricks are interlocked. The mechanical nature of PET impregnated cabon black is very high combine the strenght of deflecting UV from destroying the plastic which keep the plastic life longer

As long as the temperature of your extruder did not exceed the glass transition temperator the PET retains its mechanical strenght which is 10 times stronger than a convetional brick. The brick can even be made self interlock and also use slight epoxy on it joints as sealant against fliud or crawling ant/insect....therefore becoming a permanent structure. Try to check kite brick...its a smart brick which i have actually tried and it works....

In principle, I prefer modular and moveable structures, because they can also function as temporary, emergency housing in disaster situations. So, you're solving two problems instead of one. The general need for housing on the continent does require setting up decent alternatives to what are supposed to be "temporary" structures, but the socio-political reality, of course, is very different. Also, the climate (for now) allows solutions that might not work elsewhere.

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@Frederik C (ZA) Hi there! This is in response to your message yesterday regarding plastic waste and brick-making in East Africa. I'd love to know if anybody here is already making construction materials from plastic waste? Would anybody be able to tell me which machinery I need to do this? As we spoke about yesterday Frederik, I have worked in East African countries a fair bit, and have a good connection with a handful of NGOs/charities out there, so if there is anything we can help each other with (a knowledge share etc) I'm happy to do that

as well as Frederik C's comprehensive answer, you might look at these guys in Uganda... making Bricks and 'Timber' from PET https://www.ecobrixs.org/

Recycling | Eco Brixs | Uganda

Eco Brixs is a charity operating in East Africa. It's a closed-loop recycling programme, helping to tackle the issue of plastic waste and high unemployment in Uganda.

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Thanks @Deleted User.

Looks like a good project. A case of people putting a simple idea to good use. We could definitely find ways to collaborate with them.

Could Uganda Build Roads from Plastic Waste? — Richard Tilney-Bassett (Glass Passports) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4vKsFGWMoE (edited)

Richard Tilney-Bassett

Could Uganda Build Roads from Plastic Waste?

Right here on Nigeria, recycling has taken a new dimension since the awake of COVID. The lockdown has killed so many SMEs that is supporting employment in Nigeria, and now many are jobless and in the course of trying to engage to work, they found recycling as the most posssible means of survival thereby, invreasing the footprong of recyclong system in Nigeria. Many local engineers like myself have recently increased their portfolio from building domestic/retail machines to industrial machine fabrication which invatiably has started to turn in many investors to recycling industry. Here in Nigeria, recycling has taken to the dimension of building materials ranging from rooftile, ceiling tiles, wall tiles, floor tiles, pave tiles, window/door profiles, polymer rods, smart bricks, sewage tanks, cornice and parafets, convetional block slate and many more.

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This is skyoverthees product, the beauty thing there is the availability of our own machine product

I missed the more focused country groups, that was great for building a local network

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#africa has over 50 countries

If you can spare the time to moderate an open server specifically for a country or region, go for it. If you want to invite people to a closed server, with the same purpose, you can do that. I would prefer not to have a curated list of servers. I prefer that invites are done privately. Constant invites can really "clutter" a channel. Making a useful server does take some time commitment. I advise against it, if you don't already have a team of friends that can be your Administrators. It's useful to have such a team, so that you can step away from the server when you're busy.

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Lots of waste lying around here in Africa . Anyone here from Africa too

hello, I'm Kulee from Liberia. You are indeed right about lots of waste lying in Africa, my country is no exception. I'm here trying to connect and learn as much as possible to help improve the situation.

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I missed the more focused country groups, that was great for building a local network I agree that African countries need extra help to build local collaborations. I'm still looking for a system to replace the Precious Plastic map we had during V3. I think there's a way to use a map to connect people without flooding the map with useless pins. But it seems either no-one has implemented the idea, or no-one but me has thought of it. I'm also considering a Discord-based system. But we'll have to do it on a separate server, with a lot of automation.

[ZA] Hi Everyone. I recently stumbled upon this community and now I am poking around to see if I can be useful somewhere. I'm a practicing machine learning engineer, so I guess a good start would be something software related. I saw research is going into automated classification and sorting of plastic. Does anyone know of projects that need help?

Hello, Jan. I'm sure we'll think of something.

But automated plastic sorting is probably in your wheelhouse.

Great, thanks @Frederik C (ZA). Yeah, I thought so too. Do you know of projects in that realm that need help or that I can build on?

Just about everything new posted in #deleted-channel has a Github repository for you to look at, I think. V4 included a high-end robot arm that was lent or donated to HQ, I think.

Thank you, I'll scroll around there.

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Searching with in:[#]plastic-sorting has:link is probably your best bet. We don't have a project collection document yet. (edited)

i think that people were needed for helping with the webpage as well... If you would be willing to work on something like this...

Maybe, yes. Web development depends on very specific programming languages, though.

#Frederick Probby here from Zambia. Am new to the platform and come across precious plastic (one army) via Google browsing for machinery like shredders, melters, and injectors etc used to recycle plastics. My question is how easy is it for me to access the machinery in Southern Africa?

Take a look at the pinned messages for this channel (top right menu.) If you can't find machine builders in your region, we can try to come up with something.

How to get started: Learn about plastic: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics Find one or more niches for yourself, in the Precious Plastic Universe, in your location: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/universe Check the map to see what's near you: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map Calculate the financial action plan, if you are planning a formal business structure: https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/business-tools Deciding what products to make is a long, trial and error process that depends on your environment and community. You can get ideas from: The # showcase channel on the Discord server, https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/products, and the community tutorials at https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to Look through the Academy playlist for basic information on building machines: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtYgsstkMPuXdOmvoUYAc0oDoFlk_Ztsp You can find the machine schematics at: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download Buy ready-made machines, unassembled machine kits, moulds and recycled plastic products on the online Bazar: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/ Check the pinned messages in all channels on this server for additional information. For information on more specific topics, you can search this server (click the looking glass

icon) or use your preferred search engine to limit your keyword search to the read-only archive of the "old" forums at https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/

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Frederik C (ZA) pinned a message to this channel. 1/22/2021 6:52 PM

[ZA] Just saw the cyclone warning. How common are cyclone conditions on the East coast? Despite occasional storm surges in winter, cyclones usually bypass the Western Cape (so far.)

We had one last year: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/720977709961969695

I don't think our infrastructure can handle extreme weather on that level. Furthermore, emergency communal housing is likely to be a C-19 super-spreader environment. Double bad.

HI! I'm trying to build a community/Fablab in Madagscar.

What's the storm damage like, over there? The cyclone hit Mozambique this morning, and is expected to move South West.

Last year's "bullet" missed South Africa. No such luck, this time. Climate change sucks. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Idai

Cyclone Idai

Intense Tropical Cyclone Idai () was one of the worst tropical cyclones on record to affect Africa and the Southern Hemisphere. The long-lived storm caused catastrophic damage, and a humanitarian crisis in Mozambique, Zimbabwe, and Malawi, leaving more than 1,300 people dead and many more missing. Idai is the deadliest tropical cyclone recorded ...

Okay: 1) I got confused between tropical storm Chalane (2020), and Cyclone Idai (2019) 2) And the fact that Chalane was considered "minor," answers my original question. The storms have become more common in the last 20 years. They are now just pushing further South than before. Which is why we are getting the alerts that we are not used to. And why the country is inexperienced in dealing with this kind of thing.

What can I tell you? ¯\_﴾๏̯͡ʖ๏﴿_/¯ Mainstream Media is garbage.

https://mobile.twitter.com/tWeatherSA/status/1352638324951949314/photo/3

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AFRICA: Parts of Buzi & Beira already flooded, ahead of tropical Cyclone Eloise. It'll make landfall on

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https://mobile.twitter.com/WMO/status/1352944904931078146 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsagOAIW8AIdWwH?format=jpg&name=medium Cyclone Eloise caused severe damage and flooding on large swathes of the coast of Mozambique. Scenes from Quelimane (about 300 km from landfall in Beira.) Via WMOs Filipe Lucio

This thing is like a spinning top of destruction. It leaves, then it comes back. It gets stronger, then weaker, then stronger again. Unless it changes course, three of our North Eastern provinces, eSwatini and possibly Lesotho are next...

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Frederik C (ZA)

I missed the more focused country groups, that was great for building a local network I agree that African countries need extra help to build local collaborations. I'm still looking for a system to replace the Precious Plastic map we had during V3. I think there's a way to use a map to connect people without flooding the map with useless pins. But it seems either no-one has implemented the idea, or no-one but me has thought of it. I'm also considering a Discord-based system. But we'll have to do it on a separate server, with a lot of automation.

Dear Frederik, I am building a crowdsourced platform for collection of waste, focused on sub-saharan Africa. Later this year we intend to add a feature for adding 'waste points' (anywhere from a bin to an MSW skip, to a recycling-specific collection point) to the Map. Basically a point with some metadata (size, waste types accepted, access hours, etc). Importantly, the information will be curated by a team (typically an NGO already active in Zero Waste/Circular Economy) in each country. Exactly to avoid the problems inherent in self-added points. You mentioned the challenge of 'flooding the map with useless pins'. I'd be interested to hear more about that.

Well, specifically in the case of V3, the map had thousands of "member" pins of people who indicated interest, but ultimately had little to no intention of collaborating on projects. Or they just lost interest in the year or two it took to populate the map in their area. That's fair enough, since no-one is strictly obligated to actually participate. But it does make things difficult for people who join later, and find themselves chasing dead ends. And, frankly, the "dead" pins really have no business being there, in the first place. My idea is simply that individuals can still place pins, but that they appear on a hidden map layer and are only visible as long as three or more people "subscribe" to a "hub." (By clicking on an invite, or a hidden hub profile, or something.) That would be defined as something less formal and less organized than a Community Point, but could eventually "upgrade" to register as a Community Point. Having at least three people means at least one of those people will always be available as a contact point for newcomers who want to do something, but lack the resources. Alternatively or together with that, individuals interested in collaboration could still post pins on a separate map (or map layer) but have to keep renewing their pins, because they are automatically deleted once a month. Just keeping the map "fresh" and current, largely solves the main problem.

Having a system that works through direct messages that are visible to Admins, is also preferable, because I can assure you that there are always thousands of spammers who join just to try and sell some scam to users. With in-system DMs and a reporting system, it's easy for Admins or Mods to filter out the spammers.

Thanks @Frederik C (ZA) . Our system will not provide messaging (there are many systems, including this one, for that). Rather it will allow people who find plastic or know they need to dispose of it, to find collection/recycling points which they may not have been aware of. In many cities in SSA, even just finding a basic on-the-street bin can be a challenge. If you can't find one, and you are on foot/public transport - tempting just to chuck your bottle out. Regarding the regular refresh, yes that is very important. In the case of a wastepoint provided by the Municipality or an organized firm, that is fairly easy to check. In the case of a more 'voluntary' wastepoint such as a small environmental NGO or artist's association, I like the idea of the 'three active people', will try and think how we can incorporate that. There is nothing worse than a citizen deciding to tramp 200m out of his/her way, just to deposit their bottle in a wastepoint... and find that it no longer exists!

Yes, the map we need specifically for PP has a slightly different purpose, but the basic problem is the same.

Basically, the "secret sauce" of a functional system, is to be able to "organically" grow participation, without needing to increase the number of volunteer staff needed to manage and administrate the whole thing.

hi everyone ! We are architecture students and members of the French association "la fabrique collective". A year and a half ago, we started working on a plastic recycling project that will be located in the city of Douala in Cameroon, aiming to raise awareness of plastic recovery, particularly in the construction industry. Precious Plastic work has been a great inspiration for us, and we would like to be able to use machines on site to create a maximum of recycled elements. We would therefore like to know how it is possible to obtain these (pro) machines: Shredder Pro, Extrusion Pro, Sheetpress. Is it possible to have them delivered on site or do we have to make them ourselves? We are flying to Cameroon on 16th February to start work on the building in which the plastic will be recycled. Thank you in advance for your reply !!

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If I keep giving machine builders free marketing, I want to first know how many referrals will get me a free machine.

Brian Tinoota

Greetings Im new on this platform and I want to join the precious plastic community. Im planning to start a pro mixing working place in Chipinge,east Zimbabwe. I would like to know if there is any machine shop in SA I can purchase machines , tools and moulds from or any precious plastic centre which I can collaborate with or help me in doing a market research.

Hi Brian, I was wondering if you got somewhere with your maket research? Is precious plastic sharing their data?

I assume you're referring to this from almost a year ago? https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/703269940924514324 https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/703269940924514324 Machine Shops generally don't really do that. It's generally something to expect from Community Points. And South Africa has a grand total of exactly one Community Point. Namely, Tim. Also, PP HQ indicated that their Global Survey in 2020 got a very poor response. So, they don't have much data to share in the first place, if no-one volunteers the data. But, look at the survey results, if it interests you.

Gave you the role!

Bwana

Can someone tell me if I made plastic bricks would they be able to build low cost housing for low income earners?

you might want to look into ecobricks - its lower tech (more upcycling then recycling) but still plastic sequestration and if/when the time comes that we've stoped using virgin plastics and are running out of plasticts to recycle all the materials used will still be recyclable.

Re: ecobricks I'm familiar with the concept. But it limits you to basically just making one thing, for limited use applications (market wise). The majority of the public are simply not environmentally conscious, or are "conscious" only up to the point where it inconveniences them. That's the reality. Expanding on what plastic products you can make, simply helps a workspace be more viable in a constantly fluctuating market. The major "plastic warehouse" chains in South Africa seem to have taken a major knock in the recession. One of my local ones is going out of business. That, again, potentially changes the local market opportunities. (edited)

Ecobricks work for specific, non-profit projects. Like building rural schools, in a community that can't afford conventional materials. It certainly has its place in the PP "ecosystem." But having a dedicated network of people who do it for ideological reasons, rather than practicality, or time reasons, is key. You also have to consider the practicalities of storing (several shipping containers worth, probably) and transporting finished bricks to the end destination. As well as charging money for something that anyone can make, at home, without special equipment (with enough patience). In that regard, having at least a shredder to pack HDPE flakes into the bottles probably helps. But that centralizes the supply chain to one or a few collection points.

Frederik C (ZA)

Ecobricks work for specific, non-profit projects. Like building rural schools, in a community that can't afford conventional materials. It certainly has its place in the PP "ecosystem." But having a dedicated network of people who do it for ideological reasons, rather than practicality, or time reasons, is key. You also have to consider the practicalities of storing (several shipping containers worth, probably) and transporting finished bricks to the end destination. As well as charging money for something that anyone can make, at home, without special equipment (with enough patience). In that regard, having at least a shredder to pack HDPE flakes into the bottles probably helps. But that centralizes the supply chain to one or a few collection points.

Hi Frederik i'm Siddharth from Delhi, i'm working on a project that is making paver block & bricks from recycled plastic which is of PP HDPE LDPE and some fillers but we facing lot of challenges, can you help us out on this matter?

Probably not. I don't have a workspace. Still looking for partners to start one. But the socio-economic conditions we are working in, are similar. There are commercial companies in South Africa that make plastic bricks and tiles. I haven't had a chance to see their workflow.

siddharth82ak

Hi Frederik i'm Siddharth from Delhi, i'm working on a project that is making paver block & bricks from recycled plastic which is of PP HDPE LDPE and some fillers but we facing lot of challenges, can you help us out on this matter?

Hi Sidfharth. Perhaps google densifiers. It’s where plastic is mixed with old oil and melting to create a mixture. Once everything is mix and is at the right consistency you open a big valve to pour mixtures into your paver mould. It’s very popular is Asian countries and in particular in India

Frederik C (ZA)

Ecobricks work for specific, non-profit projects. Like building rural schools, in a community that can't afford conventional materials. It certainly has its place in the PP "ecosystem." But having a dedicated network of people who do it for ideological reasons, rather than practicality, or time reasons, is key. You also have to consider the practicalities of storing (several shipping containers worth, probably) and transporting finished bricks to the end destination. As well as charging money for something that anyone can make, at home, without special equipment (with enough patience). In that regard, having at least a shredder to pack HDPE flakes into the bottles probably helps. But that centralizes the supply chain to one or a few collection points.

Hello. I don't quite agree. I think that Plastic Bricks have the potential to be a massively useful sink for absorbing waste plastic. If bricks can be produced that can serve as drop-in replacements for traditional 400x200x150 concrete blocks, there is a huge market for that. And to achieve scale it has to be used in general vernacular/informal building, not just 'social projects'. I know of five projects in Africa doing this. From the ones I have talked to, at least two have produced bricks with better mechanical properties than concrete bricks, and lighter weight. Plus naturally they are better at preventing water penetration than concrete bricks - a benefit for many people who cannot afford to screed their walls. Challenges are: getting unit cost of production down to a competitive level; adhesion to mortar. From what I have seen, some people are using PET and other HDPE/LDPE. The former seems to require a bigger equipment capex than the latter, in order to achieve competitive unit costs. Will be doing more research on this in a few months for our platform, and will update here if I find anything interesting.

Okay, but don't get confused between the original "ecobricks" that I was referring to (which are water bottles stuffed with raw, household soft plastic) and "Ecobrix" or similar products that are moulded, proper bricks made from shredded post-consumer rigid plastic with other additives (industrial chemicals and/or river sand.) (edited)

4:06 PM

Example of ecobricks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt73zMOeQn8

60 Second Docs

Visit Schools Made From Plastic Bottles // 60 Second Docs

You up for collecting and shipping 195 000 water bottles? Because, quite honestly, I'm passing on that one.

My browser (Android Firefox) is showing no pins on the map. Anyone else having this issue?

Frederik C (ZA)

Example of ecobricks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt73zMOeQn8

Thanks for the clarification. Indeed I did not realise what you meant by EcobriCKS.

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Quite a good article about using plastic as a supplement, or the main material, for roads, including in developing countries. https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-paving-with-plastic-could-make-a-dent-in-the-global-waste-problem

How Paving with Plastic Could Make a Dent in the Global Waste Problem

Roads in which waste plastic is melted down and mixed with paving materials are becoming more common around the world. Although for now they remain a niche technology, experts say the roads could become one of a diverse array of uses for discarded plastic.

Frederik C (ZA)

Example of ecobricks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt73zMOeQn8

Thanks for posting this!

Is it "good," though? Seems to just pay lip service to the major problems that environmentalists (not to mention engineers) have with this idea. It seems "environmental" groups are constantly getting suckered into staunchly supporting "Idea A" versus "Idea B," when in reality neither idea actually benefits the environment and it's mostly an economics and political "debate." (As I understand, Dave is on the wrong side of some European "activist" groups for expressing negative views on pyrolysis.) Also, let's not forget that governmental and for-profit University study groups, basically go where the industry money tells them to. They "research" what they get paid to research. It does not bode well for academic independence and free thinking. Just saying. Don't shoot the messenger.

Frederik C (ZA)

Is it "good," though? Seems to just pay lip service to the major problems that environmentalists (not to mention engineers) have with this idea. It seems "environmental" groups are constantly getting suckered into staunchly supporting "Idea A" versus "Idea B," when in reality neither idea actually benefits the environment and it's mostly an economics and political "debate." (As I understand, Dave is on the wrong side of some European "activist" groups for expressing negative views on pyrolysis.) Also, let's not forget that governmental and for-profit University study groups, basically go where the industry money tells them to. They "research" what they get paid to research. It does not bode well for academic independence and free thinking. Just saying. Don't shoot the messenger.

I see what you are saying but don't completely agree. I think it is important that there can be differences of opinion between the activist groups, the technologists and the regulators. Eventually that will produce some interesting solutions which gain traction. And if you look at some of the solutions mentioned, such as MacRebur's, it seems to be a well-researched and practically viable approach that will certainly not "fix everything", but could make significant incremental contribution. Reducing the amount of new hydrocarbon-derivatives and newly-extracted gravel needed per square metre of asphalt road service, seems to me to be a good thing, indeed. Ditto the dutch "plastic road" approach - though that is much more early stage than MacRebur's.

Sure, if you want to simply "hand-wave" away the micro-plastic issue. That certainly seems to be what they're aiming for. The engineer interviewed for the piece is apparently not at all concerned about it. But him being concerned or not, isn't really the point.

Frederik C (ZA)

Sure, if you want to simply "hand-wave" away the micro-plastic issue. That certainly seems to be what they're aiming for. The engineer interviewed for the piece is apparently not at all concerned about it. But him being concerned or not, isn't really the point.

I think I take a more incrementalist approach. To me it is a net benefit to get some macroplastics taken out of the cycle. Once there is enough scale, microplastics for this approach can be dealt with. Bearing in mind that microplastics from the tyres themselves is another issue. Right now we are all drinking micro and nano plastics every time we drink a bottle of water. I think the true scale of microplastics as a side effect of plastic use in general is only beginning to be understood. but I don't agree that, because of that, we just stop trying to deal with macroplastics.

We're moving into self-contradictory "square circle" territory, so... don't take my lack of response as any kind of agreement or surrender. It's just not worth the effort to argue about. Countries manipulated into doing this, are going to do this, regardless of what you or I think.

Please what is the most effecient agricultural waste products to use for biodegrable plastics

My understanding is that commercial "bio-plastic" is not made from waste products. Commercial crops are "sacrificed" to produce it. Or it's made from algae or lab-grown bacteria. For the commercial "home compostable" plastics produced in Europe, as I understand, the main source of material is potato starch. Waste material is used more for the production of plastic alternatives. There's a cardboard type of material made from weeds, for example. Commercial expanded polystyrene alternatives produced by companies come from hemp / fungus / paper pulp combinations. But I'm still researching all of this (among many other things,) so don't take my word for it. We'll hopefully start to piece together what the best strategies are with continued discussion in the #archived-beyond-plastic channel. (edited)

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7:28 AM

Also, a lot of so-called "biodegradable" plastic is a scam. Companies market it, in an attempt to seem environmentally-friendly. They are lying. And they know they are lying.

Agree with you on that of plastic biodegradable. It is definitely a very very big scam. Like the PLA 3d printing filament for example. It is said to be a very good biodegradable and it it definitely not as good as they market it to be. Did some research and saw that pla can also be lying around for 100+ years after productions.

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It has to be anerobically digested, and meet all the specifications, "compostable" is more accurate

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On the note of biomass, that starch is (hopefully) from "low grade" potatoes. So essentially the odd shaped, half rotten (even right when harvested) ones etc

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I think "Cody's Lab" used them for sugar once small scale

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKMkyr6CCSg

Cody'sLab

Making Potato Syrup

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Granted theecological impact of that vs compost + local utilization vs biogas production + local leachate/digestate usage etc us up for debate

A few points about bio-plastics. Firstly the term itself is very problematic, it is a conflation of two different things - biodegradable and bio-based. Even the industry association whose job it is to promote them, admits this in the small print https://www.european-bioplastics.org/bioplastics/ . Basically it seems to be an attempt to have everything that is "bio" be seen as "great". Whereas bio-based plastics are mainly not biodegradable. So although they /are/ renewable (in the sense that they are produced from plant-based raw materials, not finite petroleum), most of them are chemically identical to normal plastics, and thus their disposal causes all the same difficulties. Also as Frederik says, the raw material is unfortunately not waste food products but cash crops purpose-grown at industrial scale. However there is some research which looks promising (but still very early stage) about bio-based plastics which have a different chemical structure and are thus also easier to biodegrade ( https://academictimes.com/new-plant-based-plastics-can-be-chemically-recycled-with-near-perfect-efficiency/ ). On the other hand, other recent research points out that ( as The Scorpion says) that many plastics currently stated as "Biodegradable" are not fully biodegradable ( https://scroll.in/article/922086/new-research-shows-that-biodegradable-plastics-arent-really-biodegradable ). As in, they do suffer significant macro-degradation from big structures to much smaller pieces - meaning that you don't get for instance, sharks growing inside plastic tubes. However after that, the smaller pieces still maintain the fundamental long-chain, resilient plastic molecules that are very difficult to actually convert into "naturally occurring" molecules that nature can genuinely consume.

Bioplastics

What are bioplastics? Bioplastics are a large family of different materials Bioplastics are not just one single material. They comprise of a whole family of materials with different properties and applications. According to European Bioplastics, a plastic material is defined as a bioplastic if it is either biobased, biodegradable,

New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with near-perfe...

German chemists have developed two sustainable plastic alternatives to high-density polyethylene that can be chemically recycled more easily and nearly 10 times as efficiently, thanks to “break points” engineered into their molecular structures.

New research shows that biodegradable plastics aren’t really biodeg...

Making plastic from biological sources could be a solution, but supporting infrastructure is necessary.

Hi guys, I've just joined PP and I'm based in Cape Town. I simply joined because I've got an idea that will require plastic injection moulding to develop. I'm interested in building a shredder and moulding machine. Can someone please give me an overview of the plastic recycling environment in SA, so that I can see if it's viable to go large scale or just do my own little thing?

[ZA] I'm in Cape Town. Let's direct message or group message (if others are interested.) Also, check all the links in the pinned messages above, if you haven't already. Almost every version of Discord is different, these days. Check the online help files if you don't know how to do stuff. Or just ask.

@Frederik C (ZA) Ok, will do.

@Frederik C (ZA) Would love to link up with you in person sometime soon, would love to discuss some concepts and ideas with you

Interesting project in Sierra Leone https://premier-enviro-solutions.com/p2b/ (edited)

Plastic 2 Build

Premier Enviro Solutions

@fanplastiek(ZA) The timing is very unfortunate for local projects (since the economic meltdown continues to unfold like a train wreck in slow motion.) And I'm focussed on other things, now. But sure, message me.

@Frederik C (ZA) I hear ya, i do however have an opportunity to get proper funding and support come 23 March, circular economy concept based in Greyton

Yes, ironically, rural communities are often more open to experiments than the city people. Maybe a more wide-spread conception of being off-grid and self-reliant. I don't know. I'm just guessing. Unfortunately, I'm sort of stuck where I am, because of local obligations (not related to recycling.)

Unless someone makes me an offer I can't refuse.

https://instagram.com/stories/ecothon2021/2528632388599581136?igshid=1orzexufelk7n

5:53 PM

Check out ecothon2021 at ecothon.org and share with any teenagers that can benefit from participating in this event.

Hello everyone, anyone from Algeria?

Only reference I could find is below. Tag your posts with the [DZ] country code and maybe someone will find you. https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/599259846767935519/715567813346984009 https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/599259846767935519/715567813346984009 (edited)

Thank you!!!

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Hello All, Happy to seeing you all. Who are passionate to change current situation of climate change. We at Recosolution providing service for machines set ups as well customised machines also as per your requirement. You can check in PP bazar also. Dm me if you have any queries related to machines and it's operations.

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Hi am Samuel mayowa AYANDA from nigeria

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hi i'm Mohamed Hamid from Djibouti located in the horn of africa (I specify for those who do not know

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Hellooo! From Cape Town South Africa, stumbled onto this community and would love to learn, and get more involved!

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[ZA] Cape Town might have enough interested people to justify some kind of meet-up. But I'm currently settling into a new home, and I'm reluctant to do anything public until the vaccinations have gained momentum.

Hi all, I'm from South Africa, gauteng to be exact, is there anyone that can help with schematics to building a shredder?

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Hello.....from Nigeria. I want to build a plastics extrusion machine and I have no prior experience. Can I anyone help me with the schematics and how to go about it

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@Da_Real_D Contact the builders on the map in SA. The link is in the pinned messages on this channel.

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https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

@Frederik C (ZA) thank you so much

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[ZA] I haven't verified how current this information is, but it looks like a pretty good list, particularly for the Western Cape: https://postwink.co.za/recycling-collectors https://postwink.co.za/useful-links/

Anybody here from Ghana? Considering the use of Precious Plastic kits to develop a Community Touchpoint for the circular economy....could I understand your experiences so far using the kits in Africa? Can I just purchase the kits and ship to Ghana?

Anybody here from Ghana? Several people have said they are. Search the Discord chat for "Ghana." Importing kits tends to be very expensive, because of the shipping weight. Thoroughly search the Bazar to find a reliable kit supplier or machine builder as geographically close to you as possible. That also helps with measurement and part compatibility. South Africa is a bit of a "hybrid." Some commonly available materials and parts come from both East and West. So, it's not entirely Metric or Imperial. https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/

Hey @Venan, did you also consider just getting a local machine builder and build the machines locally? Unfortunately nobody from Ghana on our recent Map yet, but you could also try to get in touch with people who put themselves on the old map: http://oldmap.preciousplastic.com There is actually one workspace and one machine shop on there - especially the machine shop might be interesting to get in touch with (see image). Otherwise @Frederik C (ZA) already gave some good tips as well

Amidu

Hello.....from Nigeria. I want to build a plastics extrusion machine and I have no prior experience. Can I anyone help me with the schematics and how to go about it

Have you downloaded the blueprint? I have successfully built the injection machine and I'm currently working on the shredding machine.

Femi Durojaye

Have you downloaded the blueprint? I have successfully built the injection machine and I'm currently working on the shredding machine.

how are you cutting the blades ?

4:30 PM

has any one build a gas powered shredder?

@Venan I'm in Ghana. Eastern Region. Working with the local centre for Rural economic development. We're yet to start. Hoping to start in May providing we can secure funding.

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Jean-Didier Schneider

how are you cutting the blades ?

The blades are usually cut using a CNC machine, you can contact a local CNC machine shop, look at the precious plastic bazaar to buy some or explore any other additional options.

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Not sure about a gas powered shredder maybe someone else does, I think the whole point of PP is sustainability and I think that gas just doesn't fit that equation for most people... (edited)

Laser or plasma cutting is the most common and generally recommended method. You buy sheet metal and send the cutting pattern files to a provider. The feasibility of "gas-powered" depends on what you mean. A gas-powered turbine of some kind is a bit of a different animal. A gas-powered generator running an electric motor is not that different from what you would have running from grid electricity. I've seen a few shredders powered by bike pedals, and extruders powered by solar and hand-cranked fly-wheel. I don't recall anything gas-powered. If cheap, local natural gas really is your cheapest option, and you choose it over solar power, then just make sure you have the needed engineering know-how, so that nothing explodes.

There are probably options for bio-mass burning gasifiers / steam engines. But, again, a bit of different animal. Maybe Open Source Ecology has plans for something that could work.

Frederik C (ZA)

Laser or plasma cutting is the most common and generally recommended method. You buy sheet metal and send the cutting pattern files to a provider. The feasibility of "gas-powered" depends on what you mean. A gas-powered turbine of some kind is a bit of a different animal. A gas-powered generator running an electric motor is not that different from what you would have running from grid electricity. I've seen a few shredders powered by bike pedals, and extruders powered by solar and hand-cranked fly-wheel. I don't recall anything gas-powered. If cheap, local natural gas really is your cheapest option, and you choose it over solar power, then just make sure you have the needed engineering know-how, so that nothing explodes.

There are probably options for bio-mass burning gasifiers / steam engines. But, again, a bit of different animal. Maybe Open Source Ecology has plans for something that could work.

I am building a farm in Senegal. I was wondering how to crush biodegradable waste from fruits vegetables and tree branches and others to use for the production of Beyond-plastic would a normal Shredder work. I would need to have it petrol or biogas powered as I don't have any electricity. does anyone experimented with that?

to crush biodegradable waste from fruits vegetables and tree branches and others would a normal Shredder work? You should double check the reported output capacity and specifications of the V4 and V4 Pro Shredder. The V3 apparently struggled to crush PET bottle necks. I think that implies that wood and similarly hard fibres would be a no-go on that one. So, look at the V3's "big brothers" or consider a commercial / industrial woodchipper.

I just remembered there's a shredder calculator tool (pinned in #archived-machines): https://will-it-shred.netlify.app/ https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/will-it-shred/

Good rule of thumb for large group chats/connections, or massive like this one

- Posts here are to connect interests & raise awareness of projects. Please add those you’d like to advise, help, partner etc to your Friends and share directly. We have to get to the point now

There are specific forums/threads with the right people to advise & advance

@Jean-Didier Schneider Okay, so you're talking about self-harvested biogas electricity generation. So, it's basically a renewable. That's an interesting approach for an off-grid setup, assuming that battery storage is too costly or impractical. My friend and I have discussed biogas options for our off-grid ideas, but we thought of it more in terms of cost-cutting for basic heating, not electricity generation. For us it's more about cost-cutting for a workspace and experimentation, rather than necessity, because we're in a city. I'll keep it in mind. I don't know much about the technology.

By the way, powering your project with hamsters is a no-go... Others have already done the Maths...

How Many Hamsters Do You Need to Power a House? — Today I Found Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01iDVrKmi9w (edited)

Today I Found Out

How Many Hamsters Do You Need to Power a House and Would This Be Ch...

Hi, How are you all doing in Nigeria

5:28 AM

I want to join the community

5:29 AM

I currently run a plastic bag making company I was hoping I would show more responsibility for the environment and begin recycling

5:29 AM

Anyone around PortHarcourt?

Jean-Didier Schneider

how are you cutting the blades ?

I have not finished assembling the shredder.

Jean-Didier Schneider

how are you cutting the blades ?

They are best cut with a laser cutter.

GE

I currently run a plastic bag making company I was hoping I would show more responsibility for the environment and begin recycling

Yeah, no problem.

Hi! Any one from.morocco?

As always, use chat search (

). I found 3 people who said they are in Morocco.

Hi anyone here from Zambia ?

Hello everyone My name is Lisa) I came across with one of the OneArmy projects, namely #PreciousPlastic, almost from its very beginning (app. 5 years ago). At that time, I was just starting my undergraduate studies at the University of St. Petersburg, Russia and did not yet know how much my life and my perception of the would change in the nearest future. After 4 years of studying International Relations, I couldn't stop thinking that I was moving in the wrong direction. Already at the university, I began to spread the ideas of #zerowaste #minimalism and #sustainable_consumption. It has been a year since my graduation and it is almost a year now since I am a Sustainable Development Master student in Sweden, Uppsala. Just recently, I started sharing my experience on Instagram @gr.eenko. Every day spent here, surrounded by the same driven people and the world experts in the field, is defo one exceptional experience. I will be very grateful if you join my path, or just share it with someone who is the same sustainablu-inspired!) All have a good weekend and warm spring days))!!

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Hi ! is there any one from ethiopia ? (edited)

hello

12:45 PM

Hi is anyone from Nigeria in the house

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Femi Durojaye

Have you downloaded the blueprint? I have successfully built the injection machine and I'm currently working on the shredding machine.

Please where can one get the shredder teeth in nigeria

Try searching for prototype manufacturers in your area, have the picture samples ready

Hey everyone,

7:59 PM

Here is Jean Luc from Rwanda, trying to find anyone with a workspace. Since i'm designing a sink and would like to have it done in recycled plastic. Thank you

Hi guys. 've are a machine shop in Johannesburg, South Africa. If you need help with a machine because I see a lot soldiers in Africa can't seem to get hold of machines.

Jean Luc

Here is Jean Luc from Rwanda, trying to find anyone with a workspace. Since i'm designing a sink and would like to have it done in recycled plastic. Thank you

Hi Jean Luc,that’s interesting. I am from Rwanda,Kigali too

Rosette

Hi Jean Luc,that’s interesting. I am from Rwanda,Kigali too

Hi Rosette, good to connect. I am working on a project where we want to make a hand washing station and we would like to make the sink out of recycled plastic. If you have any contact that might help or if yourself knows better can help. Feel free to reach out to me through my email: ntwalu11@gmail.com. Thank you (edited)

Michael L

Hi guys. 've are a machine shop in Johannesburg, South Africa. If you need help with a machine because I see a lot soldiers in Africa can't seem to get hold of machines.

Hi Michael, can you create a shredder that will also shred flip flops? I want to recycle beach waste

Hi everyone, we are looking for cooperations and volunteers in Ghana!! Our German NGO Ankwa-Roots e.V. will build a collecting point and workspace for bricks and beams at the beach of Accra/Osu. We are thankful for every new contact and cooperation!! Big Greetings (edited)

Amartz

Hi Michael, can you create a shredder that will also shred flip flops? I want to recycle beach waste

Yes, I’ve replied to your email. Yes we can. We have something similar for destroying counterfeit Nike takkies

Hello ! Someone from French-speaking Africa?

https://discord.gg/xKgk7ACc

Hi to the “ Precious Plastic”, I am looking for a key person to lead the implementation of a work shop from zero, and explore what ever can be done as product, find and help us to source or and produce the machine, set up the shop, trained the people on side… This work “ Precious Plastic “ work shop will be located in Tanzania and will be a part of an Orphange. Please contact me on what s app +33781429552 or/and email mburthey@phenix-expertise.com, thanks for your kind support, Mathieu

@Lael01 Try the French server. https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn

Invite to join a server

Precious Plastic Francophone

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Hi, My name is Kayla and I’m currently based in South Africa although I am happy to move. I am a fast learner, creative thinker and good at project management. I was wondering if there was anywhere I can help?

Mathieu Burthey

Hi to the “ Precious Plastic”, I am looking for a key person to lead the implementation of a work shop from zero, and explore what ever can be done as product, find and help us to source or and produce the machine, set up the shop, trained the people on side… This work “ Precious Plastic “ work shop will be located in Tanzania and will be a part of an Orphange. Please contact me on what s app +33781429552 or/and email mburthey@phenix-expertise.com, thanks for your kind support, Mathieu

Hello Mathieu! We are based in Njombe (southern highlands of TZ) and have produced two machines here. Happy to connect

Hi all! This summer, I would love to do volunteer work at a recycling space/workshop. I've already contacted a start-up nearby (The Hague, NL). However, they are still setting up so I’m not sure I can work there this summer. So if you need a helping hand this summer (Europe only) or maybe in the summer of 2022 (Worldwide) don’t hesitate to send me a message! Depending on the location of your workspace I ask for a residence or shredded plastics in return. Kind regards, Cathelijne

kaylas_arm

Hi, My name is Kayla and I’m currently based in South Africa although I am happy to move. I am a fast learner, creative thinker and good at project management. I was wondering if there was anywhere I can help?

Where is SA are you? We are just getting started on this journey and keen to meet up with others.

Where my Nigerian people at! We will be in Lagos for two weeks starting tomorrow

Joseph

Where my Nigerian people at! We will be in Lagos for two weeks starting tomorrow

That will be great if you can come to Algeria either guys ! i'am working on a startup that aims to initiate a sustainable waste management model inspired by the concept of circular economy, that trains and equips households, Businesses and institutions to inhouse waste managment and connects them to the local recycling industry

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3:24 PM

please feel free to visit our website www.nrecycli.com

3:24 PM

it's still a part under construction

3:24 PM

we have also an application mobile

cool @Maissa , we will be in Algeria (tindouf) in october

ouuh ! in sahara, very cool

3:39 PM

may be we will have the chance to meet each other

Joseph

cool @Maissa , we will be in Algeria (tindouf) in october

How about Rwanda

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Hi We are a group who are trying to unite the entire nation so we have come up with a mission called as ONE #oneweareallone We need help to make this worldwide Please message me And I will get back to you with a plan which will help both of us https://youtube.com/channel/UCkZW5knt1HK8rdF2ke6vpkw https://www.instagram.com/one_weareallone2021?r=nametag https://www.instagram.com/plasticcommunity_weareallone?r=nametag

One - we are all one

A revolution is a model. A model larger than one's initial idea. A model for everbody to fit in and to leave back the old one. A majority of people looking upto the fewer in the society for help is a death to creativity. It's time to wash up the manipulation and open up your eyes and sense the real freedom, cause real freedom isn't what ...

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Hi, We have recently started and are looking for potential market and collaborations. Feel free to reach out to us.

Team Recycling Chimp

https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/products/household/recycling-chimp-coasters-set-of-4/ Please visit the online store.

Recycling chimp Coasters(Set of 4& 6)

This products contains set of 4 coaster in white and slight grai

@Joseph how are you please I would love to have a chat with you I am new here and I really need to help

Joseph

cool @Maissa , we will be in Algeria (tindouf) in october

Hello Joseph ! Me and my collegues in Nrecycli we are happy to invite you to come to Algiers. We are using precious plastic as a referenc already and we think that it could be such a great opportunity to meet each other. You are welcome here in Algiers with your team in any time you desire. Have a nice day

@gslabt Tim, are you still in Joburg. Please get in touch, we are looking into starting an injection shop in Bronkhorstspruit.

Michael L

Hi guys. 've are a machine shop in Johannesburg, South Africa. If you need help with a machine because I see a lot soldiers in Africa can't seem to get hold of machines.

Hey Michael, send some more info on your machine shop please! Thank you

@lajuj @Michael L

[ZA] Michael is on the map. See pinned messages and below: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/786571246942027816 https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/786571246942027816

It probably won't work, but let's try a head count for the Southern SADC region. Click on your flag to show your country (actual count will be -1, except for

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Sander

Hey Michael, send some more info on your machine shop please! Thank you

Hi Sander. You can visit our website www.Crutchfieldebg.co.za or alternatively search us on Facebook

Hi Everyone! We are Tim and Kate and live in Tangier, Morocco. Early next year we hope to launch a mix space with emphasis in changing mindsets on the use of and recycling of plastics in our city and beyond. Our aim is to train and equip individuals and supply machinery alongside this training to create multiple opportunities for employment as well as starting to address the big issue surrounding plastic waste in the country. We are spending this year studying Moroccan Arabic and networking building relationships with machine shops, laser cutters etc whilst also making connections in communities. Wondering if there are others working in Morocco, if so, we would love to connect!

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@Frederik C (ZA) Hi I'm in Durban and would like to find out if there is someone in south africa producing the precious plastics machines?

Yes, as always please check the map and the Bazar. Links are in the pinned messages.

Hi! do any of you know where to purchase a plastic shredder in South Africa?

3:45 PM

And does any of you have experience with making bricks or tiles by mixing sand and plastic?

Michael L

Hi Sander. You can visit our website www.Crutchfieldebg.co.za or alternatively search us on Facebook

Good Day Michael L - Just to let the users know that your website link is incorrect. I think it should be www.crutchfieldeng.co.za Also please confirm if your e-mail address is nols@lula.co.za. I have sent you an e-mail

Hi

I'm Cokisa, am based in East London, Eastern Cape. I want to start a mix space and would love to get some help with machines. My email address is cokisadahlia@gmail.com

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Hey! - I am Catalina from Berlin. Currently I work on a projekt together with some craftmans and womans from Senegal Dakar on the Projekt Design.Up2.0 https://www.design-up.org/profiles.html - My question is, is there allready a Precious Plastic Space in Dakar? Some of our project are realy interessted to build one up or to cooperate! If you can help me out write me: cati-gomez@gmx.de

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Hi any one around western cape who has started or willing to start a precious plastic recycling ?

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Join the head count first, then we can define smaller regions. We can't currently have map pins for starting members. (Like on the old V3 map.)

How do join head count ?

Follow the link to my previous message and select the SA flag. I'm trying to see if regional servers will be worth the effort. This channel was always the least read (back when I had access to server stats.)

The indicator of how many people subscribed to a message thread, on the old forum, was a nice feature.

Ok ?

Well, I know there are more people on here from South Africa, and from the Western Cape, specifically. So... make of it what you will.

I am living around parklands in cape town me and my team we want to collect, sort and shreds clean plastic and sell shredded plastic

I think having an actual team is already "next level" (unfortunately). Well done.

Maybe check with the guy in Hout Bay, in terms of shredding. I can't point you to an actual workspace that would buy plastic, though.

We have tried to contact Dale Nolan if my memory serve me well many times via email with no respond . We are willing to buy this machines from from Johannesburg our challenge right now Is where are we going sell this materials to

no response Yes, common problem. It's why a constantly "live" user database that requires user interaction is necessary in our part of the World. The pandemic has added many reasons why people might disappear. But even before the virus, most local map pins were useless. (edited)

Does anybody know how to reach Nzambi Matee form Gjenge Makers in Kenya? Or someone else experienced in making bricks/tiles out out of plastic and sand?

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Hi Frederick how about plastic furniture manufacturers don't you think they can make a good customer?

I guess so, if they specifically don't want to use virgin plastic and can buy from you in bulk, at cheaper prices than the industrial players charge per kg (which is low, as I understand.) The main issue there would be contaminants. You need a very efficient washing system to compete on scale. Beyond that, I think having "green" credentials and cutting out the middle man, are your only advantages, business-wise.

It also depends on the type of plastic. My understanding is that locally produced plastic "timber" used for the garden / picnic furniture you see everywhere, is made from highly compressed LDPE shopping bags. If that's your main "raw material," washing might be significantly easier. But shredding could be more difficult, assuming they need it shredded, in the first place.

Which means v4 shredder machine is still good for the job just I will need to cut this plastic into smaller piece so that it doesn't jam the machine

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I have come across app called scrapo it also becoming helpful

What's the web link? Is it for Android?

https://scrapo.com/

Plastic scrap buy & sell | PET, LDPE, HDPE, PVC, PP, PS, ABS, Nylon...

The world's largest plastic recycling marketplace. Connect and trade directly with suppliers & buyers of recycled plastics and plastic scraps from 140 countries

Okay. What's the extent of the local market on Scrapo? It seems like I need to register an account to search for offers. (I hate it when websites do that.

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What I found so far about about local sellers is that they are recycling companies and to chart with them you also need to subscribe to their premium whatever of which I also do like

Subscibiton premium is the part I don't like sorry

In searching for the app, I saw some possible alternatives on the Play Store, but none with a higher download count. Also, my Android version is close to obsolete. Scrapo doesn't work on it (along with many other popular apps.) Having a flat subscription fee is better than paying a percentage on each sale, though. Profit margins on raw material are low enough as it is. And international shipping certainly doesn't lower the carbon footprint. So, environmentally, what's the point?

True shipping to other countries not a solution at all I was looking for local market specifically

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Hello, I want to speed up my slow plastic compression molding machine a bit faster. So if you have a better suggestion please help me. Thank you.

Redeeming Plastics

Hi Everyone! We are Tim and Kate and live in Tangier, Morocco. Early next year we hope to launch a mix space with emphasis in changing mindsets on the use of and recycling of plastics in our city and beyond. Our aim is to train and equip individuals and supply machinery alongside this training to create multiple opportunities for employment as well as starting to address the big issue surrounding plastic waste in the country. We are spending this year studying Moroccan Arabic and networking building relationships with machine shops, laser cutters etc whilst also making connections in communities. Wondering if there are others working in Morocco, if so, we would love to connect!

Hi, I'm in Morocco as well, planning to start a PP workshop, beginning with a collection point, then scaling up to a full recycling workshop in Casablanca

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@Hamza619 great to hear from you. And glad to hear others in the country are thinking of starting workspaces also. I have spent the past few months researching places in tangier for components for machines and I have almost finished building my first shredder and plan to build an injection machine shortly. I am hoping by mid 2022 I will be set up to supply most machines here in morocco as well as running a mix space here in tangier.

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@Redeeming Plastics I am from Ethiopia and I want to build the same as your project. We can exchange information as well. But for the production process I am not sure how to setup injection machine and extruder machine for my fast production aim. Please anyone of you can contact me for this assistance. Thanks.

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Hi, I am interested in making low-cost homes for people in Ghana, Africa, I am going to visit Ghana for the first time in October of 2021 for 14 days. I plan to purchase some plots but I feel that I have to help clean up the plastic waste in Ghana, but I do not know where to start. I will be donating and plan to visit the machine shop in Portland Oregon, but I feel that I need to develop a plan. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?

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Hey everyone, I have an important question and i hope it doesnt come across stupid I have a thermocouple with the screw end fitting, but its a little difficult to attach it to my pipe or inbetween the band heater would i be able to remove the screw part off and make it work like that or ? Also, I can send a picture if it makes it more clear to understand, any help would be appreciate

Redeeming Plastics

@Hamza619 great to hear from you. And glad to hear others in the country are thinking of starting workspaces also. I have spent the past few months researching places in tangier for components for machines and I have almost finished building my first shredder and plan to build an injection machine shortly. I am hoping by mid 2022 I will be set up to supply most machines here in morocco as well as running a mix space here in tangier.

Salams Maroc People! I'm near Agadir and we are planning to open a workshop here too, inshaAllah!

@Brookolie great to hear others are thinking the same in the country. Once we are up and functioning I I more than happy to help support others in the country to get up and going.

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Good Day, are their any precious machine recyclers in South Africa? I would like to get a rough estimate on cost if one would build a pro shredder and pro extruder in South Africa locally. I want to make and sell house building bricks for low cost housing. Have a great day!!

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Christine Nortje

Good Day, are their any precious machine recyclers in South Africa? I would like to get a rough estimate on cost if one would build a pro shredder and pro extruder in South Africa locally. I want to make and sell house building bricks for low cost housing. Have a great day!!

I would also like to know this, I'm looking to make my own 3d printing filament from PET bottles. Please let me know if you manage to find something out.

ilovelolcats

I would also like to know this, I'm looking to make my own 3d printing filament from PET bottles. Please let me know if you manage to find something out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FwAsBt3AVk (edited)

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Christine Nortje

Good Day, are their any precious machine recyclers in South Africa? I would like to get a rough estimate on cost if one would build a pro shredder and pro extruder in South Africa locally. I want to make and sell house building bricks for low cost housing. Have a great day!!

Hi there @Christine Nortje ... I am based in Cape Town and we are planning to build some shredders and injection machines soon. However there is a company around Joberg also producing machinery - at a cost. If you are Based in CT Contact me through plasticpassion.capetown@gmail.com and lets make some stuff happen!

@fanplastiek(ZA) Fill me in with more details plasticpassion.capetown@@gmail.com .... we are just about to get started

4:16 PM

Based in CT, looking to find a space around Salt River to centralize a workspace and collection facility. We are looking to form collaborations here and start something where all profits can go into machine production and further expansion of the model in the wider CT area to create something positive! This is a call out to all those that are close by that can help. We are a few but hope to become many. We are still in teething and need machinary and workspace but we have given ourselves 3 months to get this all running. If there is room for help in any shape form or way with this part of the process. Pull up!

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[ZA] Oh, the irony. Given that, for two years, I've mostly heard only the echo of crickets and my own voice in the Discord, I feel as if I should thank the pandemic (and subsequent increased YouTube-watching regarding the Plastic Crisis) for the apparent upsurge in interest. But I'm not going to. F&%k the pandemic. That would be a Pyrrhic victory that comes at too high a cost.

You are correct, got to love the tube and a deep dark hole into the precious plastic page that got me purchasing a 16 sheet paper shredder the next day. So as I was saying I am keen to get this going but my paper shredder well shes not of scale that would do any impact really and truly. So given you're time in the space I feel you would know lots, please do make contact directly if you have drive

Is there any people from S. Africa that I could possibly link with & join forces?? Or just someone involved in the PP community??

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Lael01

Hello ! Someone from French-speaking Africa?

@lajuj Hello! I am from Benin Republic. I speak French.

#PetraLena

@lajuj Hello! I am from Benin Republic. I speak French.

Hi there! I am in Cote d'Ivoire. But just starting right now, pour le moment, j'ai rien a offrir sauf une million des quesiton

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Hi Africa-Community! I am living in Abidjan, Cote d'Ivoire

and with a friend we decided today to dive down into the precious plastic universe. I have a very first question: after pressing, can one use the plastic sheets the same way you would use wood? Or do we need special equippment, screws etc. Many thanks!!

Claas22

Hi everyone, we are looking for cooperations and volunteers in Ghana!! Our German NGO Ankwa-Roots e.V. will build a collecting point and workspace for bricks and beams at the beach of Accra/Osu. We are thankful for every new contact and cooperation!! Big Greetings (edited)

Hi Claas, Greetings from neighboring Cote d'Ivoire. We are based in Abidjan and started our precious plastic journey only very recently. It's still all in our heads... But happy to get into contact with you and start the exchange. How far are you with the bricks and beams making? How is the collection going? Many Greeting, viele Grüße!

after pressing, can one use the plastic sheets the same way you would use wood? Other than trying to collect plastic dust, to prevent pollution, I think it can be worked pretty much like wood. I haven't seen any specific recommendations regarding screws. From my own limited experience, regular wood screws work as expected, more or less like with very soft wood. (But I've only used original production plastic, not re-melted.) The surface maybe scratches and dimples little bit easier on polypropylene. And screws tend to dig out little curly strings rather than flakes. They can jam up screw holes more easily. So, almost the same as soft wood, but be more gentle.

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https://youptu.be/BYBaMQ0bTsI This precious plastic kisii. Watch and subscribe to know more about our workspace

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https://youtu.be/BYBaMQ0bTsI

Mckay Manduku

PRECIOUS PLASTIC KISII

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Any Precious Plastic workshops around the Johannesburg areas or someone I can team up with??

Frederik C (ZA)

after pressing, can one use the plastic sheets the same way you would use wood? Other than trying to collect plastic dust, to prevent pollution, I think it can be worked pretty much like wood. I haven't seen any specific recommendations regarding screws. From my own limited experience, regular wood screws work as expected, more or less like with very soft wood. (But I've only used original production plastic, not re-melted.) The surface maybe scratches and dimples little bit easier on polypropylene. And screws tend to dig out little curly strings rather than flakes. They can jam up screw holes more easily. So, almost the same as soft wood, but be more gentle.

Great, thanks!!!

Precious Plastics, am new from Zambia and ready to start from the scratch. I have enough experience working with PP and extrusion. I think it would be great to see something out of the waste plastics to curb pollution!

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Any recycler from tanzania?

taborn

Any recycler from tanzania?

Check out @Mettodo | Njombe Beyond and Recycle@ozti

Kat

Check out @Mettodo | Njombe Beyond and Recycle@ozti

Thanks

Hello everyone, I want to start a Mix Space in the South of Morocco, and I'm just starting my researches ! When I moved int the country side, i realize there was no garbage collection. The people have to deal with their own garbage (so they burn them or just throw them away in nature…) So I want to help my community and start a place where we can collect, recycle / upcycle this precious plastic. But also, I hope to use this place to educate about environmental protection and maybe, if this project works, provide employment ! If you have any advice, or willing to create a similar project in the same area don't hesitate to contact me

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Hello friends

Hello everybody

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Is there anyone from Tanzania?

Blackmangic

Any Precious Plastic workshops around the Johannesburg areas or someone I can team up with??

I'm from Joburg working on a project in the Eastern Cape... Also looking for people to connect with. There is a place in Randburg that builds the machines, Crutchfield Engineering. Other than that I haven't found many leads

Mosisa

Is there anyone from Tanzania?

no, but is Kenya close enough

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Hi, I am Stephen from Nigeria, are there any Precious Plastic outlets in Nigeria or West Africa?

Hi everyone, I am Mitali, I am a product design student interning with Barrows in South Africa, and am working with them on their re-store project to find a way to recycle their waste ABS, Acrylic and PETG plastic from their manufacturing units in SA, and turn it into products that can uplift underprivileged communities in South Africa. They have different quantities of each material wasted each month, as it is dependent on their need and usage from their client work, but most of their waste material is long and thin off-cuts that can’t easily be used for anything else, so is disposed of. I have been working with them to find out wether shredding the materials and re-moulding them into useable pieces is viable, hence why we have found precious plastics! It would be amazing if I could connect with someone who works with precious plastics in South Africa. There are many options that we would love to discuss, including possible collaborations. Our only aim is to stop materials going to landfill and destroying our planet, and helping people in whatever way needed. Also I would like to know if anyone regularly uses ABS, Acrylic and PETG in their shredding and remelting process? Please get in touch with me if anyone thinks this would be of interest to them to discuss further, or have other suggestions/ advice. Thanks so much for you time and help!! Mitali

mitali

Hi everyone, I am Mitali, I am a product design student interning with Barrows in South Africa, and am working with them on their re-store project to find a way to recycle their waste ABS, Acrylic and PETG plastic from their manufacturing units in SA, and turn it into products that can uplift underprivileged communities in South Africa. They have different quantities of each material wasted each month, as it is dependent on their need and usage from their client work, but most of their waste material is long and thin off-cuts that can’t easily be used for anything else, so is disposed of. I have been working with them to find out wether shredding the materials and re-moulding them into useable pieces is viable, hence why we have found precious plastics! It would be amazing if I could connect with someone who works with precious plastics in South Africa. There are many options that we would love to discuss, including possible collaborations. Our only aim is to stop materials going to landfill and destroying our planet, and helping people in whatever way needed. Also I would like to know if anyone regularly uses ABS, Acrylic and PETG in their shredding and remelting process? Please get in touch with me if anyone thinks this would be of interest to them to discuss further, or have other suggestions/ advice. Thanks so much for you time and help!! Mitali

im going to assume you can get a decent-ish budget

7:11 PM

if you want something that can be also used along with/in your other products you could make things like washers, bushings, protective covers etc.-this can be done with a small injection molder at first, if you want to do something bigger/faster you'll need to either get a bigger injection machine or get an extruder

7:12 PM

^the small injection molder will have a fairly low budget 100$ to 500$ depending on how you do it,also the molds for making those small parts should be quite easy to make

7:14 PM

i dont know what machinery/tools you have access to but ill assume yall can CNC/lasercut, the simplest is to lasercut or CNC the molds out of acrylic if you need to test a part and then CNC it out of aluminum or laser cut it from steel

7:16 PM

if you have a bit of skill/dont mind spending time and something that is a bit unsafe you can try casting molds out of aluminum as it requires very less equipment, most of the materials used can be from scrap/recycled

7:19 PM

the best thing about aluminum cast molds is that it very cheap

7:20 PM

most of the plastics youve mentioned are fairly easy to recycle too

sponsoons

if you want something that can be also used along with/in your other products you could make things like washers, bushings, protective covers etc.-this can be done with a small injection molder at first, if you want to do something bigger/faster you'll need to either get a bigger injection machine or get an extruder

on the same line as this, you could get a shredder+ sheetpress and make sheets which can be used for making anything and generally recycled plastic from the sheetpress functions not to dissimilar from normal plastic sheets albeit you have to go a bit easy on it in terms of physical properties

7:23 PM

a sheet press requires a bit of capital but is quite capable in terms of what you can make with the finished sheets as the can be CNCed,lasercut or even punched/stamped

7:27 PM

for you id guess a sheet press would be the best if youve got budget but if not a just an injection machine would work too and will give you a decent variety

7:30 PM

for the injection molder you can either make small useful trinkets like keychains, hooks, phone stands or you could make stuff like covid keychains, mask straps[ear savers]

7:31 PM

if you want to make sheets in a very small manner especially for trial purposes a knife/scissor and a clothes iron+ butter paper are quite useful

7:33 PM

very small run prototype injection molds can me made out of plaster but its not really recommended because there are other methods which are give much better results but need tools/equipment

7:35 PM

but in a pinch plaster+ a metal case works ok, for the metal case I've got away with using electrical boxes as they're cheap easily available and can be quickly found in the right size

@sponsoons thank you so much for your comments. Really appreciate it.

1:29 PM

I am new to this, so want to double check, have others tried to use acrylic, ABS and PETG in their shredders and sheet presses/injection moulders? The precious plastics website says they have tried mostly PET and HDPE, but don’t mention acrylic for example, so just wanted to check with you all on here who have clearly been doing this for a while!

Hi

mitali

I am new to this, so want to double check, have others tried to use acrylic, ABS and PETG in their shredders and sheet presses/injection moulders? The precious plastics website says they have tried mostly PET and HDPE, but don’t mention acrylic for example, so just wanted to check with you all on here who have clearly been doing this for a while!

iirc theres a youtube video+site from somebody doing acrylic sheets

I am Dex from Zambia and new here, i collect PET bottles and i was looking for best approach to recycle/reuse PET bottles any advise?

sponsoons

iirc theres a youtube video+site from somebody doing acrylic sheets

personally I've done thin acrylic sheets by using a normal kitchen mixer grinder for shredding and a clothes iron and butter paper for the pressing + melting

6:47 PM

those sheets were then punched out using cookie cutters and a hammer

6:47 PM

an iron and butter paper is a great way of making small plastic sheets (edited)

6:48 PM

and iron is also useful for joining or fusing plastic film/bags or thin sheets together

6:49 PM

and kitchen mixer/grinder works great for shredding small to medium quantities of plastic

6:51 PM

i used a scissor/blade or saw to cut the plastic so that it fit and then just toss it into the mixer, i used to get about 600-800grams of plastic shredded in about 2-5 minutes using a 1L mixer/grinder container

6:54 PM

something to remember is that once you use a mixer/grinder container for plastic dont ever use it again for food as there is a risk of the microplastic contaminating the food, I just used an old one that we no longer used. Side note-a mixer grinder with a bit of soap/cleaner and some water is a great way to wash, clean and shred some plastic quickly

6:54 PM

ill link the youtube vids a bit later

Recently registered a business to produce the bricks... Coming along well.... Got the moulds made... Next step granulator and extruder. Plus i have gov backing to supply me with ready sorted plastics with a new recycling project they started. The future is looking pretty bright. And i am excited to start producing houses in my surroundings.

11:47 AM

Already have a few customers that wants things like boundry walls and such..... So we just need to educate communities more on recycling that starts at home.

Recently registered a business to produce the bricks Where?

Port elizabeth

Frederik C (ZA)

Recently registered a business to produce the bricks Where?

Or ghebera if u prefer the new name

What are the SABS / ISO requirements for the bricks?

I am still waiting to hear back from Agrement South Africa... And i am still to go through all the documents available on their website

7:24 PM

Before SABS can write it into their documents for universal use...

Before SABS can write it into their documents for universal use... Having clarity on that would be significant progress.

That is a fact yes and they are taking their time everywhere

Its like people are using covid these days as an excuse for poor service

The government and associated structures has barely functioned for a long time. This is the reality of failed States. And it's not just us. But most people are allergic to reality, so we have to "navigate" through that... Which is also exactly why we face so many environmental and socio-economic catastrophes in the next century. In a recent survey, 56% of 10 000 people in 10 European Union countries, aged 16 to 25, agree with the statement "Humanity is doomed." Well, I'm almost 40. But at least I'm not the only one paying attention.

Glad to knw that i am not only one seeing that the human race in itself is a virus to this planet

The main problem is scientific literacy. When you have a scientifically illiterate population, bad things will inevitably happen. You can't even begin to have meaningful conversations with people who can't process basic facts or the logical consequences of those basic facts. So, my "social navigation" strategy is to just out-right exclude people from the conversation when they demonstrate themselves to be scientifically illiterate. I've been in online forums where an American engineering student says "Recycling has got NOTHING to do with climate change." And no-one corrects him. Seriously, given the magnitude of the crises we face, who has time for that shit?

Agreed..... I mean the other day i came on this video where this guy tries to convince us that the whole concept of recycling is a myth.... Then i thought about the time my one friend went swimming in the ocean not far from Tanzania or somewhere or other..... And he thought he was swimming amoungst sea grass or something turned out it was plastic hanging in the water..... And people still trying to convince me that i am wasting my time

Well, on that point, specifically, there is some nuance. There is some argument to be made that it is somewhat pointless. But the point is, educated people can have a rational discussion on the pros and cons. Because they already know the basic information. In other words, you have a realistic starting point. You don't first have to "debate" whether or not the Earth is flat, or whether or not the sun revolves around it. Which is what "open" forums almost always turn into.

If you are already in the "Humanity is doomed" camp (like me), I just don't think constantly talking to idiots is good for your mental health. It reaffirms the worst case scenario. So, I go online to mentally escape from idiots, not to talk to them. If I want to talk to idiots, I can just go out my front door. Or talk to my relatives.

You also need to understand that much of what goes on online regarding environmentalism comes from a space of "Eurocentric Eco Elitism." But you can't explain that to a lilly-white EU uni student who hasn't spent any significant time in the Global South. So, just don't bother. It's like Chris Hedges: He's a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, author and public intellectual who teaches college courses to mostly Black inmates in a New Jersey prison. He says those Black inmates understand America better than any of the White kids he taught when he was a professor at Harvard. I believe him.

I can believe that to

Please limit chat to constructive networking

Re.works is looking for a recycling workspace coordinator Re.works is a plastic recycling workspace next to the Katsikas Refugee Camp in Ioaninna, Greece. The workspace is currently located on the grounds of Habibi.Works, a makerspace for refugees and locals. At Re.works, people come and work with plastic according to the Precious Plastic methods. We are looking for one or two volunteers who want to stay for ideally 3 months or more from December/January onwards. You will be coordinating the workspace, collecting plastic, recycling plastic, and guiding refugees and locals in their own creative process. Accomodation and food is included, and after 3 months there is a small compensation as well. If you are interested, contact us by sending an email to reworks@notforyourdistinction.org and include your CV and a short motivation text!

hamster

And does any of you have experience with making bricks or tiles by mixing sand and plastic?

There is a company in jhb that builds the precious plastic machines..... And i am busy making the bricks

[ZA] We used to have more machine builders on the local map. But if they don't want to advertise, that's their choice. I'm not going to do it for them. Some of them are more like hobbyists. I don't think they want to get constant build requests from the general public.

Subsequently, I'm never entirely sure if the local community is gaining or losing active membership. Which makes it difficult to know what to invest, and where. Information is important.

That is true.... I came in contact with the machine builder but no replies yes

6:50 AM

Yet

People agreeing with me is a very unusual sensation. Give me some time to recover...

The individual outreach in South Africa has been overwhelming this past year. Machine builders I know have commissions till March next year. Hope to advise & connect preciousplasticsa@gmail.com

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is ther a collection depot in Johannesburg?

Renette Albasini

is ther a collection depot in Johannesburg?

Maybe @gslabt or @George.PPSA know?

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Renette Albasini

is ther a collection depot in Johannesburg?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/timslab

For what specifically? @Renette Albasini

Hello #africa from Cancun, MX. Looking for a project plan to combine precious plastics with building homes for poor, homeless, disadvantaged, needy. Please share your experiences.

combine precious plastics with building homes for poor, homeless, disadvantaged This was posted previously: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/792429220470063124 https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/792429220470063124 In South Africa, we're still trying to get clarity on the Bureau of Standards requirements for building materials. One main concern is fire safety, since fires spread quickly in our shanty towns, where structures are typically wood and sink plates. Furthermore, high UV radiation from bright sunlight and relatively high summer temperatures should be considered. Plastic and sand roof tiles are already sold commercially. My interest in experiments is also concerned with how "modular" structures can be, while still being safe. Since they are technically supposed to be temporary, regardless of practical reality. (edited)

Basically, in most places, there is a legal difference between a structure intended for storage and a structure intended for working or living in.

Hello! I am looking for a factory in Cape Town. Anyone active with precious plastic in South Africa? Looking to see some of the options in real life. I'm working on a small cabin and I am considering using recycled plastic for some of the finishes. Thanks!

Any machine builders here from Kenya or EastAfrica?

Hi all, I am new to the group. I am based in Sandton, Johannesburg. I wanted to know if anyone is able to guide me on a few questions and ideas. Thanks in advance.

@Abbsolem Hi from Bathurst, EC. Have you tried the Precious plastic academy? (edited)

@Garion Bartosch Hi from Bathurst, 150km from Gqeberha. Have you heard of Regenize in CT? I'm hoping to set up similar collection methods here

Yes heard of them still doing some research..... Perhaps you could reach out to Georgesnyon discord... He could be a much greater help he is involved in a way that we can all benifit

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Hello follow plastic fanatics

We are three engineering students from Norway who are currently working on an innovation project regarding social differences and renewable energy in Tanzania. Therefore, we are interested in the local market and any other tips in plastic production. We are working on a container, where local workers will recycle plastic from the beach. Do you guys have any recommendations for products that would be of interest for locals in Tanzania? We have PET and PP mostly available. Please feel free to forward this to anyone you would think is appropriate for the project. We would appreciate any feedback or advice

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Hello @Maritbreimo, fellow plastic fanatics from the University of Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Our team has been working on recycling plastic, our first product was plastic and sand paving blocks because of the high demand. We are currently researching other products that we can make from the plastic we recycle, targeting plastic disposed of in the rivers and the open beaches of the city, and also using biogas from organic waste as an alternative energy source for production. I think our team will be appropriate for the project, we are based at the CoICT UDSM.

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Hello guys, im from Kenya and I have a workshop where I started building an injection molding machine. Ive spent quite a few months tweaking and optimizing it but its still not yet ready. Is there anyone who would be interested in partnering up as I feel like that would speed up the process and make machines more quickly

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Greetings beautiful people. Just joined this family and im so excited about making connections to drive a better use of old plastic in my surround. Im writing from Mozambique and so far have motivation and willing to bright the mind and behavior of my brothers and sisters regarding the great things we can do reusing old plastic and help our income. Open to any suggestion and cooperation, thanking you in advance.

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Hey guys, are there any plastic extrusion facilities in Ghana?

A. D.

Hey guys, are there any plastic extrusion facilities in Ghana?

Hey A.D Maybe get in touch with thìs group to connect https://m.facebook.com/Precious-Plastics-Black-Stars-104398584554691/

Hi there! Have you had any luck searching for machine builders in Ghana or places to have the shredder parts laser cut?

Gilly M

Hello @Maritbreimo, fellow plastic fanatics from the University of Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. Our team has been working on recycling plastic, our first product was plastic and sand paving blocks because of the high demand. We are currently researching other products that we can make from the plastic we recycle, targeting plastic disposed of in the rivers and the open beaches of the city, and also using biogas from organic waste as an alternative energy source for production. I think our team will be appropriate for the project, we are based at the CoICT UDSM.

Hi, @Gilly M Can you tell me more about the mix you are using for the blocks? Are you mixing different plastics and sand? Are you trying to sort the plastic types? Thanks.

YOUTH ASSOCIATION FOR SANITATION AND SANITATION IN IVORY COAST (AJSACI) N ° 1485 / PA / SG / D1 Phone: +2250777124845 / +2250102908423 ajsaci225@gmail.com Hello to you, I come by this message to request a partnership with my association and I dare to hope that you will be attentive to our request. Indeed, I just saw one of your videos on making plastic recycling machines and it caught my eye. In Africa we need this expertise and through our association we educate the population on good practices in waste management, in particular waste sorting and the promotion of jobs linked to waste recovery. Your machines represent a boon for Africa and I would sincerely like you to support us in this regard because the best waste is that which is not produced. Thank you for your attention while waiting for a favorable response from you. Good day

Hii guys

‍♀️ Do you have any suggestions for filaments extruders in the price range of 1000- 2000€?

Maritbreimo

Hello follow plastic fanatics

We are three engineering students from Norway who are currently working on an innovation project regarding social differences and renewable energy in Tanzania. Therefore, we are interested in the local market and any other tips in plastic production. We are working on a container, where local workers will recycle plastic from the beach. Do you guys have any recommendations for products that would be of interest for locals in Tanzania? We have PET and PP mostly available. Please feel free to forward this to anyone you would think is appropriate for the project. We would appreciate any feedback or advice

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Karibuni TZ

What machines are you going to use? We are fighting to find products that have a local market. Check out some of our products: https://www.smartcentretanzania.or.tz/index.php/we-offer/plastic-recycling/recycled-products/ Would be great to know about what you learn

Recycled products & recycling technology

Hello, I'm new here and interested in learning more about plastic recycling.

Kalebi

Hello, I'm new here and interested in learning more about plastic recycling.

Hi! Where are you based?

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

Hi! Where are you based?

Kitwe Zambia

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Any group or link of people doing recycling in Zambia?

Kalebi

Any group or link of people doing recycling in Zambia?

Not that I know

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

Not that I know

Where are you located?

Kalebi

Where are you located?

tanzania

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

tanzania

Are you a recycler, how far have you gone? Please allow me to learn from you..

Kalebi

Are you a recycler, how far have you gone? Please allow me to learn from you..

I DM you

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

Karibuni TZ

What machines are you going to use? We are fighting to find products that have a local market. Check out some of our products: https://www.smartcentretanzania.or.tz/index.php/we-offer/plastic-recycling/recycled-products/ Would be great to know about what you learn

Looks like great products

How are the hospital masks doing? Are you selling to the hospitals? We are travelling down in a few weeks and will come back to what worked and what did not work

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Maritbreimo

Looks like great products

How are the hospital masks doing? Are you selling to the hospitals? We are travelling down in a few weeks and will come back to what worked and what did not work

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mmm "there is no Corona in TZ"

We know some other people producing them who got some huge orders, but we have a big (for our size) unsold stock

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

mmm "there is no Corona in TZ"

We know some other people producing them who got some huge orders, but we have a big (for our size) unsold stock

Ahh that is interesting

Heya! Next week I'll be starting my graduation project on an improved version of the Injection Machine ✨ I'm looking for people who have build the machine or are operating it for a short interview. Let me know if you are someone I'm looking for

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lets go Africa! #🌽africa #Ghana

Togo just got its first Precious Plastic injection machine workspace up and running

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Hi everyone! Humasol vzw is looking for people with experience in plastic recycling who would be interested to support a plastic recycling project in Gambia. They have started bootstrapping a small workshop with a local ngo, but the team is quite small so we could use some additional advice/help/support from people who have practical experience with such installations. Feel free to DM me if you are interested, or if you know a person or organization that might be able to help us. https://www.humasol.be

Kenya

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/967864368295448577/968892181295267940 https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/967864368295448577/968892181295267940 Repost from #archived-brick-dev Probably the number one question we've had for the last 3 years. So, there you go... Looking forward to results.

JoMXL

Hi everyone! Humasol vzw is looking for people with experience in plastic recycling who would be interested to support a plastic recycling project in Gambia. They have started bootstrapping a small workshop with a local ngo, but the team is quite small so we could use some additional advice/help/support from people who have practical experience with such installations. Feel free to DM me if you are interested, or if you know a person or organization that might be able to help us. https://www.humasol.be

you could post this in #archived-talent-pool outlining the type of skills you need to help you

Hello everyone. Martin here. From Kenya. I am planning on a recycling space to make posts and other construction items. I have no experience in recycling but knowledgeable on metal works and machining. I would like to learn how to go about recycling for making posts. I already have the site. Material isn't a problem too. Machinery required is the issue. Any help?

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#SouthAfrica

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check out our website www.workingforclimate.co.za We hope to start our workspaces soon.

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@Amathandamvelo#5753 Hi have you found any other leads?

@Amathandamvelo #5753 We are make progress, today we are applying for a waste permit.

@Maritbreimo#9171 hello, hope this will show how we make filaments in precious plastic kisii https://youtu.be/DjKt9Io9ucU

Mckay Manduku

15 June 2022

Bonjour, pour les pays africains francophones, vous pouvez rejoindre notre Discord des pays francophones en cliquant ici : https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn Bienvenue

Invite to join a server

Precious Plastic Francophone

accueil

Hey guys, I am selling an injection molding machine in Nairobi, Kenya. Comes with 3 molds. Interested parties please send me a message

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moza

check out our website www.workingforclimate.co.za We hope to start our workspaces soon.

This is dope! You guys gonna go far. All the best!

Kat started a thread. 7/6/2022 11:17 AM

Checking to see if anyone knows about current Precious Plastic recycling activities in Ghana

Hey everyone! Following Project Kamp with interest, and would be stoked to find out about any similar projects happening in South Africa - my Google-fu has failed me so far

hi, i'm tomi, founder of fenikss, an impact project in which we transform the plastic waste collected in soccer clubs, located in marginalized neighborhoods, into soccer shin guards, and for every pair we sell, we give another one as a prize to its players for caring environment

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Hey guys, i am kelvin from Nigeria,i have shredd PET for sell

Hello! Does anyone know of current projects going on in Sudan?

Hi, great to watch your progress. WWF South Africa has a great guide to managing invasive plants(wattle incl). Although the guide is written for the incredibly biodiverse region (Cape Floral Kingdom) in South Africa, I think it could be useful reading for you- see below link. Im busy with a restoration project. A few things I can share.. a chipper is the best. chip as soon as you cut, I understand wet wood is better to chip than dry because dry wood blunts the blades .. Don’t chip wattle that’s in seed and then spread the seedy chip around.. Leave the wood chip in a pile and make compost. Cut the stumps as low as possible and treat stumps, they will coppice. Wattle fixes nitrogen so they are good for the soil. Thinned out in patches, the wattle forest is a great nursery for inter planting the indigenous trees that you want to reforest with. https://www.wwf.org.za/our_research/publications/?34703/practical-guide-invasive-alien-plants

Hello I am a biotechnology engineer, I would like to have some answers to some questions about the plastic extruder. Like the standard motor power type needed with RPM please

Hello everyone, I’m new to this community so I hope I won’t ask something that has already been said tens of times. I’m a volunteer in an NGO in Benin, in Porto-Novo, that works on plastic recycling. Activities are already ongoing, we’re collecting, sorting, washing and shredding plastic waste in order to sell plastic flakes to industrials. But we want to improve the efficiency of our processes and go further by producing and selling new products made of recycled plastic. Therefore, we are reorganising our processes: we are planning to wash the plastic flakes after the shredding step, but we are not sure about how to treat properly the waste water (that contains micro plastics, dust, eventually a bit of paper…). I don’t think simple filtration is enough to really clean the water, so I tried to find other possible treatments. A sedimentation tank might be a possibility, but it requires a large space and might take a long time for the solid particles to settle. Besides, can small plastic particles decant properly? Another option might be to centrifuge the water to separate clean water from its impurities. Is it feasible? Are there other methods that seem more appropriated in our situation (not too expensive, low tech, easy to maintain…) ? Thank you so much for your help

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Beth

Hello everyone, I’m new to this community so I hope I won’t ask something that has already been said tens of times. I’m a volunteer in an NGO in Benin, in Porto-Novo, that works on plastic recycling. Activities are already ongoing, we’re collecting, sorting, washing and shredding plastic waste in order to sell plastic flakes to industrials. But we want to improve the efficiency of our processes and go further by producing and selling new products made of recycled plastic. Therefore, we are reorganising our processes: we are planning to wash the plastic flakes after the shredding step, but we are not sure about how to treat properly the waste water (that contains micro plastics, dust, eventually a bit of paper…). I don’t think simple filtration is enough to really clean the water, so I tried to find other possible treatments. A sedimentation tank might be a possibility, but it requires a large space and might take a long time for the solid particles to settle. Besides, can small plastic particles decant properly? Another option might be to centrifuge the water to separate clean water from its impurities. Is it feasible? Are there other methods that seem more appropriated in our situation (not too expensive, low tech, easy to maintain…) ? Thank you so much for your help

What about filtering and then as a second step evaporating the water using a tank with a slanted clear lid with a gutter? Evaporating with the heat of the sun? So then as steam collects on the lid, it would roll down and be routed by the gutter into a different tank of clean water? Then you could reuse it in your process. Just imagining, I have not implemented this solution or anything like it!

That’s an interesting idea that needs to be considered, but I’m afraid it might require a lot of time for the water to evaporate completely

Does anyone know where I can get the 3D design of this phone case mold? (the video mention it's in the starter kit file 5.create -> iPhone 7-8 mould -> STEP files but I can't find it)

6:59 PM

Dose anyone happen to have the file?

Charley

Does anyone know where I can get the 3D design of this phone case mold? (the video mention it's in the starter kit file 5.create -> iPhone 7-8 mould -> STEP files but I can't find it)

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https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-a-recycled-phone-cover-using-cnc-milling

Make a recycled phone cover using CNC milling

Jerry will show you an advanced technique to create a CNC mould to produce phone cases from recycled plastic.

WOW! Thank you @sponsoons this is amazing!

welcome

Hello everyone, I’m a volunteer in an NGO in Benin, in Porto-Novo, that works on plastic recycling. Activities are already ongoing, but we want to improve the efficiency of our processes, especially the washing steps. We are looking for a drying machine for our plastic flakes. Do you have a contact - preferably in West Africa - who builds drying machines ? Thank you so much for your help

Hey guys I have PET for sell

Hello les Precious !!! Grande nouvelle : Nous avons officiellement livré l'ACADEMIE EN FRANCAIS sur le site internet ! Relayé ici, sur FB et LinkedIn. MERCI à tous les contributeurs contributrices de ce groupe de travail !!! SUPER JOB de collaboration sur l'année 2022, on peut être fier-e-s de nous

. Voici donc le lien pour le rendu final, tadaaa : https://preciousplastic.fr/academy/intro.html (edited)

Intro · Académie Precious Plastic

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is there a recycling plant in Africa that someone can benchmark with?

Kat started a thread. 2/27/2023 3:53 PM

Hey! I am doing a research about precious plastic and I am looking for workspaces inside universities. Can anyone share with me those projects please? Thank you

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hello my name is Anthony I am from Gabon

and I would like to know how to proceed to manufacture from an oven, an electric oven that can contain large molds, such as those of stools for example. THANKS

Hello

6:01 PM

Recycling of plastic bottles

I look for a 3D CAD files spéciales plastics FILM shreeder

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merhaba

Hi all! I'm Sucre, representative from Plastiki Rafiki in Nairobi, Kenya! Happy to finally join the discord community...looking forward to being part of this space!

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heyyyyy guys

12:45 AM

any tunisians here ?

12:45 AM

i am new here

hello everyone

8:32 PM

new here

8:33 PM

any one from Mauritius here ?

hello! we will be setting up a very large PP operation in an african country. we are seeking partners who want to help with setup and operations

Kat started a thread. 5/27/2023 2:39 PM

Hello am Cloclo from Mauritius i want to know how to use a sheet press machine thanks

9:58 PM

If i want to make 4mm thickness sheet can I use the frame 25mm or i must fabricate 4mm frame

cloclo

Hello am Cloclo from Mauritius i want to know how to use a sheet press machine thanks

hey, this how-tos may help you https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/automated-sheet-press https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/sheetpress-v4--fiction-factory-version https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/15m-sheetpress-system---designed-for-disassembly

Automated Sheet Press

Here we describe some of the adaptations we made to the sheetpress. It is a step towards an automated version. The main goal was to adapt the sheetpress so that it needs minimal time investment. Our version has a 600x600mm pressing surface. We chose this size to fit our needs: a transportable machine that runs on standard single phase 230V. If...

Sheetpress v4 -Fiction Factory version

We have build the sheetpress system with some upgrades which we believe are worth sharing! In short:

Shared our labour hours for realistic price estimation
Making all sheets & parts suitable for lasercutting and sheet metal bending
Updated the bom-list
Made changes to the circuit diagram
Etc,

See files below for more information (la...

1.5m Sheetpress System - Designed for Disassembly

Complete set of blueprints, CAD files and instructions on how to build this upscaled sheetpress system. -56% larger pressing surface -Designed for easy disassembly -Improved electronics

cloclo

If i want to make 4mm thickness sheet can I use the frame 25mm or i must fabricate 4mm frame

Use a sheet press with a 4mm mould. The mould can be a simple steel frame. https://youtube.com/watch?v=j3OctDe3xVk&t=970&feature=share8

One Army

Precious Plastic - Build a PRO sheetpress machine and make sheets (...

From Nigeria

I would like to know how to produce plastics polythene packaging bag's . thank you in anticipation (edited)

Hello everyone, Boni from Côte d'Ivoire

6:35 PM

hope people are felling well there

surfwilly

I would like to know how to produce plastics polythene packaging bag's . thank you in anticipation (edited)

Do you have images?

Hi i'm hicham from algeria i need someone interesting to building machine to starting a project in algeria

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Hello, am Emmanuel from Malawi, Africa. Looking for a machine shop near me. To purchase Plastic shredder and extruder. If anyone know a place in Africa please direct me. Thanks!

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Hello, Precious Plastic Community Africa. I am Donald Mwanga from Kenya. I need help on where I can get the services of a Sheet press Machine and an Extruder to construct a prototype for a project. Warm regards.

cloclo

If i want to make 4mm thickness sheet can I use the frame 25mm or i must fabricate 4mm frame

You can DM me

Emmtech

Hello, am Emmanuel from Malawi, Africa. Looking for a machine shop near me. To purchase Plastic shredder and extruder. If anyone know a place in Africa please direct me. Thanks!

You can DM me, there are others in Malawi that I’m also helping

Hey

everyone, I'm Severin from Mali. Happy to meet you here.

hello

9:15 AM

anyone

9:16 AM

has a folder for marketing purposes

Hello, I hope you are fine. I wanted to open plastic recycling workspace . I asked for a loan from a national agency. Now I need a supplier for a plastic recycling machine (shreeder machine and extrusion machine) in Algeria.

Hello, we have a shredder, injector and intruder in Ghana. Now the injector and intruder don`t make the right temperature. Is there somewhere in Ghana some one ho can help to check the machines and hpefully repair them?

Kat started a thread. 8/1/2023 8:03 AM

Hello , I'm from Belgium

and originally from Morocco

. I want to start something in Morocco in the area of Meknes / Fes. And I'm looking for people willing to help make this real. I don't really know where to start . I want to build the machine or buy them here in Belgium and then shipping them myself to Morocco . But I think the better solution is to learn building it myself . Does someone know where to start to learn how to build the machines . I downloaded the files but I have to say that I don't understand everything

Hi! Alyssia from Malawi. I would like to set up a local in Blantyre if anyone is interested

I would like to focus on getting a shredder and an extruder first

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Bonjour, je suis au Mali et on veut démarrer un atelier precious plastic à Ségou, y a t'il quelqu'un avec expérience au Mali?

Bonjour,

11:41 PM

Nous sommes en RDC et nous aimerions demarrer un atelier. comment faire pour poser le premier drapeau ?

Spero

Hello , I'm from Belgium

and originally from Morocco

. I want to start something in Morocco in the area of Meknes / Fes. And I'm looking for people willing to help make this real. I don't really know where to start . I want to build the machine or buy them here in Belgium and then shipping them myself to Morocco . But I think the better solution is to learn building it myself . Does someone know where to start to learn how to build the machines . I downloaded the files but I have to say that I don't understand everything

Bonjour! Tu peux déjà rejoindre le Precious Plastic Francophone, où nous sommes de tous les pays parlant le français. Il y a des belges, suisses, canadiens, africains etc. https://discord.gg/SCVEZDyY (edited)

Titoff

Bonjour, je suis au Mali et on veut démarrer un atelier precious plastic à Ségou, y a t'il quelqu'un avec expérience au Mali?

Pareil pour toi, viens nous rejoindre ici : https://discord.gg/SCVEZDyY (edited)

Ola pessoal!! OneArmy

Sou Antonio e faça parte de uma comunidade do Plástico Precioso na cidade de Cajazeiras no nordeste do Brasil! Estou buscando fazer um intercambio com paises lusófonos no continente africano para participar de um evento que estamos organizando para novembro desse ano!!

Quem tiver interesse, por favor entre em contato pela DM ou pelo nosso perfil do Instagram que já deixo aqui para todos seguirem https://www.instagram.com/plastico_precioso_cajazeiras/ Grande abraço e sucesso nos seus projetos!

: )

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Ola pessoal!! OneArmy

Sou Antonio e faça parte de uma comunidade do Plástico Precioso na cidade de Cajazeiras no nordeste do Brasil! Estou buscando fazer um intercambio com paises lusófonos no continente africano para participar de um evento que estamos organizando para novembro desse ano!!

Quem tiver interesse, por favor entre em contato pela DM ou pelo nosso perfil do Instagram que já deixo aqui para todos seguirem https://www.instagram.com/plastico_precioso_cajazeiras/ Grande abraço e sucesso nos seus projetos!

: )

Que ideia fantástica! Pode contar um pouco mais?

Marcela - Community Manager @ PP

Que ideia fantástica! Pode contar um pouco mais?

Estamos organizando um evento chamado "Plástico Precioso: uma gincana solidária" onde o objetivo será fazer uma campanha de coleta de plástico 1 , 2 e 5 ( PET, PP e PEAD) entre as escolas municipais de Cajazeiras. Após a coleta vamos triturar e doar todo o plástico arrecadado para a associação de catadores da nossa cidade, pois eles conseguem vender 4x mais caro o plástico moído mas eles não têm como fazer esse serviço porque não tem as máquinas. Então os estudantes do IFPB - campus Cajazeiras farão isso pra eles usando nossas máquinas!! E no final de novembro, encerraremos a gincana com uma mesa redonda convidados de outros países africanos lusófonos para a compartilhar nossas experiências e realizar a premiação da escola vencedora OneArmy

Ficaríamos muito felizes em conhecer novos projetos e compartilhar com nossa comunidade! (edited)

Hi all, I am from South Africa and looking to get a loan for an extruder. Would any one be able to help me with numbers of how many bricks can be produced per hour so that I can set up a business plan accordingly.

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@Hélène bonjour, stp, le lien est invalide. peux-tu le renvoyé?

4:57 PM

@Hélène je souhaite participé au salon precious plastic francophone. Comment faire?

Hey everyone , trust you're all doing well . do someone know about the mechanism usually at the output of the extrusion machine who's purpose is to smoothen ,shape and cool down the 3D printing filament being extruded ??

LizBit

Hi all, I am from South Africa and looking to get a loan for an extruder. Would any one be able to help me with numbers of how many bricks can be produced per hour so that I can set up a business plan accordingly.

I am from Lesotho, where about in South Africa would your bricks business be located? I am looking to exchange ideas as I also aspire to start such a business

@LizBit @Miloane there's a business in Kenya that does this. Watch the video link below for more insight https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=iFcPqXxAUWM

Insider Business

Young Inventor Makes Bricks From Plastic Trash | World Wide Waste

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Greetings all! I am Ann from Kenya and I am looking forward to setting up a recycling workspace in Nairobi and later, beyond. Thank you for being an informative and helpful community this far. (edited)

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Hello from Costa Rica!

I’m Emily from Innoceana, which is a global marine conservation nonprofit dedicated to preserving the ocean for future generations

One of the many soon to be projects, is joining this great Precious Plastic Community by creating a circular economy so we can give back to the community whilst recycling the abundance of plastic waste

️ We’re looking for someone to join us here in Costa Rica from December to be part of this amazing project and help our planet

Our website is https://innoceana.org where you can find volunteer opportunities and intern information. My email is emilycook@innoceana.org and would love to connect if you or anyone you might know is interested

Beautiful sunsets, fun beach clean ups, lush vegetation, Pura Vida and much more would be part of the experience!

The Innoceana Team

Emiliano Vargas

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CREATING WAVES OF CHANGE THROUGH CONSERVATION, RESEARCH, AND EDUCATION. Your donation creates a ripple effect that protects our oceans and […]

hello guys from Cameroon , i would like to know something about the compressor, i have watched the video and done my own shredder , however i wanted to equally do for the compressor but i have an issue with the positionning of the Bangheater cuz it was not actually clearly shown in the video . thanks for any constructive reply!!!

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the compresser machine

hi guys how are you who is from africa ?

Hi, i am from Holland but have a plant in Ghana. I am looking for a technican to help a problem at the injector and extruder. It looks like they don,t heat up enough. Do you know some one? Greetings Jet

alof

Checking to see if anyone knows about current Precious Plastic recycling activities in Ghana

Hoi Alof, We have a plant in Ghana. It is in Kenyasi 2 in the neighbourhood of Hwidiem. What are you doing or wherr are you? Greetings Jet

Hello everyone! I would like to share a bit what we do in case we find some enthusiasts that would like to start their own plastic recyling journey

A little bit of backstory, Yann, Joseph and I worked within the Precious Plastic core team for four years, we initially joined as volunteers during the development of Version 4. During our time there, we were responsible for starting the Precious Plastic "Collabs" were we offered machines, onsite setup/training, and consulting to other organizations looking to implement local plastic recycling solutions. This was the primary business model for Precious Plastic during that time. We recently started our own machine shop here in Portugal

to assist organizations with setting up small scale plastic recycling projects, as we accumulated a lot of practical knowledge in this area and know that many organizations and individuals need help. That's why we started MAD PLASTIC ( https://www.instagram.com/madplastic_ ) - to consult organizations on small scale recycling projects, and provide the machinery, molds, and training to implement them. Here you can see some videos of us setting up the workspaces and training people on how to run them during our time in Precious Plastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yxHtSx2d4I&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62paZrW7OXU&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGz05O5Meg Let me know if you are interested on starting your recycling journey or know someone that might be!

We make small to large projects! So don't hesitate to ask

We also provide consultancy services, product design, molds, product productions, R&D projects, on-site training and installation and more! (edited)

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Marcela - Community Manager @ PP

Que ideia fantástica! Pode contar um pouco mais?

Im in morocco i want to create a recycling center in my city

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hello

Hi There from Senegal

12:58 PM

Happy to be here, i m interrested about plastic recycling i realy dont know how to start

Maguette

Happy to be here, i m interrested about plastic recycling i realy dont know how to start

Precious Plastic offers everything freely available online for you to use. We have our main website (https://preciousplastic.com/) where you can learn the big picture, the Academy (https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy) with video tutorials and lots of information to learn how to get started into recycling, the Community Platform (https://community.preciousplastic.com/) to connect with recyclers around the world or you can visit our FAQ (https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/support/faq) for more info. Overall, there is a lot of content on our websites so make sure to take your time to dive deep into the recycling topic and don’t hesitate to reach out to the many knowledgeable people hanging on the Community Platform and Discord. When you’re ready to take action, the first thing to do is to search our map (https://community.preciousplastic.com/map) and connect with your local Community Point and take it from there. Have fun!

Hello i can't downland the kit. the files dosen't open, can you help me please

ChaCha

Hello i can't downland the kit. the files dosen't open, can you help me please

hey, could you tell me which error are you getting?

hey. can we use ABS (from old electronic parts) for making coasters

Hi there, newbie here. If I want to make bio packaging using the bio press e.g. bowls, cups etc. How do I prevent the products from going mouldy or becoming contaminated?

Maguette

Happy to be here, i m interrested about plastic recycling i realy dont know how to start

@Spero#7304 hello, you can contact association Terangagée with Sarah and Ismael. https://terangagee.com/

farouk

Im in morocco i want to create a recycling center in my city

Hello, if you want, there is a French Precious Plastic Discord : https://discord.com/invite/AUAepXVwy3 (edited)

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And there is as well the website with academy in French : https://preciousplastic.fr/academy/intro.html

Intro · Académie Precious Plastic

It's me or the machines section in the prevcious plastic website isn't opening anymore?

SongfackManuel

It's me or the machines section in the prevcious plastic website isn't opening anymore?

it opens if you follow the link https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/

Precious Plastic Machines

Hello, I want to start a small project in Mozambique to use plastic waste into making bricks. For this I want to mix melted plastic with sand. Does anyone know if this possible with the extrusion machines precious plastic makes?

BrunoB7

Hello, I want to start a small project in Mozambique to use plastic waste into making bricks. For this I want to mix melted plastic with sand. Does anyone know if this possible with the extrusion machines precious plastic makes?

hmm is it a good idea to mix plastic with building materials? both in a structural and environmental sense

Mário Nunes

hmm is it a good idea to mix plastic with building materials? both in a structural and environmental sense

The plastic-sand brick combo is already a well established practice- typically used for pavers.

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Hello there, I have made up a shredder head but i am unable to get hold of a motor that will turn it with a single bottle in it. I have ripped a bike apart to try gearing it but have not come right. I was wanting to ask if i tried sharpening the shredder blades would this help or just cause me problems because i wont be able to replace them if it does not work. Thanks for any info

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Trex8u247

Hello there, I have made up a shredder head but i am unable to get hold of a motor that will turn it with a single bottle in it. I have ripped a bike apart to try gearing it but have not come right. I was wanting to ask if i tried sharpening the shredder blades would this help or just cause me problems because i wont be able to replace them if it does not work. Thanks for any info

Where are you based?

KZN

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