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A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Release time is CET 4PM.. countdown was slightly off

3 and a half hour left ! (I have an exam in the mean time, what a nice way to pass the time)

Lucky you

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Message from Dave

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1:28 PM

I'll stop there. You got it: we can't wait

OK now I'm embarrassed

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Less than two hours, and I'm going to my exam now...oh no

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One hour!

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Жду не дождусь (edited)

Я тоже

3:09 PM

(Hope my translator doesn't fail me)

Cool

Happy New Year !

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Cool

Hi there!

Hi

Two months ago I thought "Should I start my PP adventure now or wait for V4?" and omg I'm so glad I waited it was worth it. Good job team!

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4:35 PM

Hi!

I'm the same but like 4 years ago

Hope ya'll ok.

OH BOY I AM OKAY

4:45 PM

I AM MORE THAN OKAY

4:45 PM

THIS IS AMAZING

We r just getting started...

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Great, I am very curious to explore the updated content and the concepts around the PP universe. I like the idea of dividing the spaces in categories and I am looking foward to promote the creation of a community point in a urban region of Portugal. I will explore it later in the evening

(introduction) Hi All! My name is Marius and I work at the Arts School of the University of Évora, Portugal. We're currently in the process of setting up a maker space, or creative lab as we like to call it, and want to integrate Precios Plastic onto it. I've been a long time follower and finally we'll have the chance to make it real. I'll be attending Fab Academy soon in order to become a noob fab manager here. I'm really excited, thanks PP for all your great work! V4 is really promising

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Congrats people! You've done an amazing job!!! I'm going to bring up version 4 in an upcoming development meeting of our university's art deparment.

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Hello hello! This is Jeff Wubbenhorst from the United States (New Jersey, we make a lot of plastic

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7:22 PM

Glad to meet everyone, this is quite exiting

Hi everyone! I'm Frank from Maryland in the United States. I've been admiring this community for a while and I'm excited for the launch of 4.0. Hoping this year will be the one where I get some machines built and get to work.

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@how.does.make neat, my mom is in annapolis, I'm down there every month or so at least

That's awesome, I'm just north of there. I get anything up and running I'll have to invite you to check it out @Jeff Wubbs

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Hi Everyone, I'm Robert. Just joined. Looks like I'm the second to do so in Ireland! Any tips for getting started gratefully received as I work my way through the preciousplastics website info

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@Jeff Wubbs @how.does.make fellow American from Ohio here, just joined today

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Ohio represent !

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@Joseph I just finished watching your new v4 video, I thought you sounded pretty local

Starting now, we can binge-watch Precious Plastic instead of Netflix. It makes the world a better place.

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Hi Guys This is a great project to get involved with and looking forward to getting things set up here in London. Is there any information on what the pricing is for sellimg collected processed plastics in order to work out costs etc? Anyone else here from London that migjt want to work together?

Anyone know who might be able to sell the cool led light strips on the new website?

@Jeff Wubbs : re your reaction in 'feedback', don't worry. You may get it done for 10k; depends on your preferences, eg: price for the value or the time. and evtl. you may have also sort of exit strategy on the radar, with 40+ things have to be pretty straight

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@Jeff Wubbs the bigger chunk goes mostly into the 'stayin ahead' as well the 'compliance' pot

@Deleted User ah, good to know - I'm just starting out here, a lot to learn, especially about regulation and compliance! Will DM u

10:33 PM

don't worry, patience and being a good student gets you everywhere. here's what I picked up over nights til darn : https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/resources/. see you in 6 months

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@commissionit you should get in touch with this guy https://community.preciousplastic.com/map#drydenwilliams or check the other people in uk

@Elsee , 'no one ever said it's easy', for sure not

it was just about the https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/showcase/machine-shop.html doc, sayin '0 -10k' for the setup whilst not outlining exactly what you just said - us forum folks wanted to place a little bumper here ;-) going on the moon, i am all in

remember the machinists joke, 'some go to the moon', others use metric

the amount of work put into this release is stunning and all the info absolutely priceless, congrats @🤙v4-team !

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V4 is brilliant! Thank you for the staggering amount of work all of you have put in, just amazing

I haven't seen the 30 min video yet. Started it, but @davehakkens said you need popcorn. I take that very seriously.

(introduction) Dropping in to say hello! My name is Daniel Snider and I am a product designer and also run a public charity called The Pillyr Foundation based in Atlanta GA. Its mission is to deliver artistic and functional community projects that cultivate vibrant public space. Past projects include public art, a custom-designed playground, bus stop shelter, semi-permanent street safety improvements and more! I'm working on a local partnership which aims to recycle plastic to create built environment products (street benches, trash cans, vertical delineators, pavers, etc. ), material for public art and for other products made by sustainability-focused social enterprises. Very excited that v4.0 has finally released and we're hoping to get machines and a product prototype done by the summer. If you live in Georgia and want to get involved please feel free to reach out! If you don't live in Georgia and just want to connect I welcome that as well! To see our past work check out https://www.instagram.com/pillyratl/. Thanks!

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Hey everyone! My name is Karla. I’m an anthropology student from NYC and I work in the education department of a science museum. I’m SUPER excited to become a part of this community. Looking forward to all the cool things we will create

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Hi, I am from México and want to start being part of the community and also to start a work space that I see in the map there is not only one in Mexico; with all of the plastic problems we have in our beaches!!! Contact me if someone wants to start! https://discord.gg/5KjkTnY

Invite to join a server

Mercy

general

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hey everyone i created a server with all the US states listed for better organization. https://discord.gg/2RwN9f

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Hi, do we have some vector graphics we could use as stickers to be placed on our machines, "Powered by Precious Plastic" or similar. We'd like to have this as metal engravings. I am a little lost in the new platform and repositories ... May be there is some merchandise material for the project somewhere, no idea

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11:59 AM

If someone has a neat eye catcher phrase, ie: 'Powered by Precious Plastic - The open source recycling revolution'. I am not good at this

12:05 PM

because we estimate the reach of our machines in the tens of thousands by the end of this year, schools, museums, bars, restaurants, universities, fair trades, exhibitions etc... we'd like to insist a little on showing the roots but also advertising the project

thanks in advance

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Hello! My name is Yura, I am from Russia. I am glad to join such a large company that solves such global problems. I hope together we will help our planet. I love traveling and have a lot of free time. I will be pleased to join some camp or invite myself when I have something to share, for example, experience. Have a nice day everyone)) I'm on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005337306887&ref=bookmarks

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Hi, we have around 40 heatbands to give away because of wrong order - inner diameter 60mm & height 35mm . shipped from Barcelona, DM me. No idea what to do with those.

Interesting

@Deleted User make some 60mm injectors? haha!

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@Deleted User ooh!! DM'ing u

Hi everyone! does anyone know in which countries there are work stations already set up?

Hello everyone. I am interested in various plastics, recycled or new, as substrates for making objects with wood and metal lathes. I have tried to process PP with a hand cranked grain mill for wheat (not successful), melting hand cut fragments in an aluminum foil tube. Partly successful, upon cooling the top of the "bar" of plastic receded conically into the interior. FWIW zinc will do this too. Of the common recycled ones I think PP is the most broadly suitable for tool handles, knobs, toys like tops, but I've never worked with blocks of HDPE, PET, or PS. Acrylic will take a high polish and would make nice fountain pens.

7:03 PM

To melt PP (#5) I nearly destroyed a 120V plug into wall stand alone roaster. I was trying to liquify it, and it was hard to get enough heat where needed and not over heat. The plastic heat control handle started to melt, the electric plug got hot and soft, too.

7:04 PM

So, I'm cautiously optimistic that I could get better grinding and reforming equipment built. Are there people doing this in TX, USA?

@Fr. Mark you might check out the USA server

8:07 PM

https://discord.gg/32bNkZ

Aye! we have a chat

10:53 PM

Greatings from Spain

@Deleted User Hi PlasticHub, I may be able to help you make some vector files. DM some details of what you would like

Hi we need Ghana on the Africa sector!

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6:31 AM

setting up a team for a community point - first meeting was yesterday - yay Ghana!

6:34 AM

How do I add my community point to the map?

@🤙v4-team

A request for adding Ghana. @Kattapa-JU See https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/create-a-profile

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Thank you frederik!

9:08 AM

Sorry, frederiC!

unfortunately, I am unable to save my profile on the map

Hello, is there possible to chat in french with precious plastic ?

Hello from Rochester, NY. I am new to the group and plastic recycling. We are interested in local collection but also processing the material into 3d printer filament.

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@Vincentheij there's the #deleted-channel channel, and there's also a french PP discord server: https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn

Invite to join a server

https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/community-platform.html

accueil

Thanks Jonathan

Hi, My name is MeneerPeer and I'm from Zwolle, Netherlands

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Hi All

9:26 PM

i have dummy question,

9:26 PM

how can i find user if i have username

9:27 PM

but not number but for example "Hubert"

With the URL : https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/Username" Like "https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/LeyKlussyn" (edited)

thx a lot

Hey guys, l am alex from Cyprus. We want to get this project running but we first need funding. I already searched but wanted also to ask if there is a specific template, tutorial or another team that did a PP crowdfunding campaign so that to get some know-how to do it. Thank you

(l mean how to do the crowdfunding campaign)

are the forums still active?

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Yes

so why the two separate areas for discussion now? and how to access the forums from the V4 updated website?

hello can i know the link for making 3dprint filament? i need to buy the microcontroler things, and 4get it

@Kattapa-JU - discord is chat system whilst discussions in the forum can go over years ... it's linked on the main page in the footer (edited)

Which main page?

preciousplastic.com

i'm not seeing any footer for the v4 updated site

12:32 PM

I found it under the solutions tab choose community platform then it is in the footer

12:32 PM

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

nah, actually it's pretty much everywhere

thats where I found it

12:34 PM

the footer is not on the first page of preciousplastic.com

@IvarTheBoneless , @Jeff Wubbs I give the heat bands to a nearby fablab at the end, sorry and thanks

12:41 PM

@Elsee : thanks a lot, I am back to you next week about the vector thing for a PP metal promo sticker - I was wondering how to embed a QR code there as well, so I guess it's laser engraving or cutting then.

Sure sounds good. I look forward to hearing from you!

@Elsee - well, you can do it already if you like. we have also some budget to get this done (DM me just if you have something on mind). It shouldn't be bigger than 6x10 cm - more likely to be screwed or welded on the machines (I really don't want anyone removing it

also the phrase itself is unclear to me ...

@Deleted User no problem pal ! We were not ready to build the extruder yet, anyway. I'm glad the heatbands won't have to travel thousands of kms ;)

yeah, exactly that's what i had on mind too, thanks

The community point starter kit contains .ods files

6:09 PM

anybody knows what software can open this on a mac?

@Kattapa-JU with open office

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The community point starter kit contains .ods files

@Kattapa-JU Its a open document file - Microsoft Office, Google Drive and Libre Office (https://www.libreoffice.org/) can open that.

I downloaded the Apache OpenOffice and it worked ok!

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Hello from Eastern Europe. Just joined. Interested in polymer sand pavers. Anyone else having the same interest / background? Glad to exchange passion and knowledge.

@DanB are you interested in producing pavers from recycled material? FYI there is #deleted-channel channel where products are discussed as far as I understand. Or #deleted-channel for business side of things

New Hello from Virginia USA - looking to see what PP spaces might be near me already. Love the passion and action here.

Hi! I'm Urban from Slovenia! I am glad I can be part of this, I hope I manage to open some Precious Plastics points in Slovenia. Anyone from my area?

@robert greystones limerick ireland here. Are you in wicklow?

7:53 PM

I'm new to discord, and precious plastics, is there a channel to meet and talk with people in ireland?

Try #deleted-channel

#deleted-channel

I mean on the left (or in the menu) there is list of channels, grouped by continent, there is ireland

Thanks. Can't see it though

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Thanks arseniy, I got it

@Arseniy (PL) I believe that the idea to work and have it as a full-time work and involve other like-minded people I'll need to make a business thank you the info.

I am looking for anybody involved in research in plastic pollution. We have 329,000 schools in 40 countries that have an eduCCate Global Climate Change Teacher, accredited by UN CC:Learn. The aim of this programme is to support the research needed to understand the risks plastic pollution poses in Low and Middle Income Countries (LMICs) Developing Countries. To explore which interventions, policies and regulations can mitigate these risks. The outputs of the research will support economic growth and societal wellbeing by enabling a cleaner and more resilient and productive environment. If you know of someone or if you are working on research on plastic pollution, lease can you get in touch with me here: support@educcateglobal.org

Hi Melanie, you don't need to post in every channel, just the relevant. Most users get a notification for every channel, and receiving the same notification 6 or more times does more harm than good. Also, I would be interested in learning more about this research opportunity. Do researchers need to be based in LMICs to be involved?

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Hello all, I know the focus on v4 is the spaces but where can we access the old map where people would add pins showing off interest to help in the cause?

@Jorge Gomes (semogj) oldmap.preciousplastic.com

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Hello. First time that I am here. Coming from a business where our end customers do have plastic waste (strapping material). Who could be a good contact for me (in Austria or Germany) to chat about potential collaboration (eg. using material for making furniture, etc.). Thank you!

Hello I wanted to ask about the download link for starter packs. It doesn't seem to be working. It just downloads a bit and then completely stops. I have checked my internet connection and it seems to be working fine.

@Haris Which ones do you have issues with? I tried just now and it worked fine

Apparently all of them.

10:16 AM

I guess there must be an issue with my connection. I'll check again. If it still doesn't work I'll let you guys know. But I don't think my connection is bad because I am streaming 4K videos on YouTube and they're running fine while the download is at 0 Bytes per second. I guess there's a problem with the server.

@Haris Where are you based ? Are you on a school network/cybercafe/mobile network ? It could be limiting your connection. Your ISP could also be doing that, are you able to download other files on the internet ? (Not just browsing, downloading). Is your disk full ? I'm not sure it's the server fault, it's working for me. Or maybe the servers are partially down where you're based.

I'm based in Pakistan. Other downloads are working fine and my disk has enough space. I'll contact again if the problem persists. Thanks.

@everyone Discord security concern: Discord recently introduced logging in via QR code, which is pretty handy when the desktop version randomly decides to log you out. However, as you may have noticed, a small exploit exists, so I'll say this upfront: NEVER and I mean NEVER scan a QR code for Discord-related gifts or prizes, including Nitro giveaways, through the Discord mobile app, EVER. You are NOT redeeming the "prize", you're giving someone FULL access to your account, regardless of 2FA. Until Discord adds a notice to their app, you'll have to be extremely cautious about this. PSA if you moderate a server: If you see someone posting a QR code in your server and claiming it gives Nitro, DELETE IT. Be sure to spread the word to everyone you know. This is a serious flaw with Discord's login system, and there's probably a lot of people losing accounts to this scam.

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Yeah, this is urgent, thanks for a reminder

Hello from Durban, South Africa. We have a workshop and are excited to see what we can do with PP to create jobs and reduce waste! Www.instagram.com/themakerspace #🌽africa

hello from cape town

good luck with your workshop hope it goes well, will try look out for something in ct

@mechanic @toktokie ~~So, South Africans actually can use Discord. Good to know.~~

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@Frederik C (ZA) not exactly, wish I could quote a message, but ja trying. Nice to meet you

~~Ja, sorry. It's Cape Townians who can't use Discord. My bad.~~

~~(Context: I'm Cape Townian.)~~ Uuhmm... I mean... South Africans! Yeay! I wasn't losing hope at all.

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haha

10:12 PM

where are you based @Frederik C (ZA) ?

Strand, Cape Town. Let's chat in the #🌽africa channel.

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Hello, all. Huge fan of recycling here, long-interested in locally recycling and re-manufacturing goods, especially with automation. Looking forward to learning more about Precious Plastic!

12:31 AM

Anyone have a ballpark idea of how much it costs in materials to get a full recycling & production pipeline set up in a new town? I've looked a bit, but KCMO unfortunately seems... Barren, as far as this community goes.

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2:24 AM

Hey Folks I am a member and would love to know about whats on around Byron Bay Northern Rivers area...?

@raphacycle check with the #🥝oceania channel, I'm based in Wollongong, but a few people mentioned the Byron Bay area

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Hi everyone, wich type of plastic do you recommend me to make small high quality products with the injection machine??

Hi @GeorgeFields depends on finish/hardness/flexibility you are looking for. Check this PP video out to learn more. https://youtu.be/JwdlLelQWws

Precious Plastic - How to finish objects from recycled plastic

Saying hi from Tijuana

Hi everyone! Do you guys know a Pracious Plastic point near Paris? I have an artistic project using plastics and I would like to get in touch to present it. Thanks in advance. Cheers!

https://community.preciousplastic.com/map#preciousplastic_sartrouville @Nick - PP France (edited)

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Thank you @Ley Klussyn

guys

4:02 PM

i'm thinking about draw a block piece

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is anyone interested?

@marcelozp ahem, could you please rephrase? Having trouble understanding :(

Hi Everyone! I am from Vietnam. I am planning to build a network for plastic recycling in Vietnam. The Idea from precious plastic is great. So, I join this hopping get more information about this project. Thank you. Trong Ngo zamio@zamio.com.vn

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8:38 AM

Shredder Pro Max

@zamio Already watched here #deleted-channel ?

I am such a technological dinosaur. Forgive me all. If I have a little number 1 on an icon at the left of this screen, how do I go and see the message? Is it a message? I’m sure I can figure it out but thank you all for being patient with me.

Hey team - I was wondering if someone could provide me with some insight. When shredding plastic from say a v3 shredder, approx. how long would you say it takes to shred 1kg of flakes, if you're shredding consistently?

@h0neycrumb The output per hour is about 10kg depending on your plastic and desired output size. :)https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredder

Thanks!!! ❤️

7:37 PM

Would you look at that, the answer is right there. Ololololol

The academy is a fantastic resource, and has improved drastically since V4. Think of it as the consolidated information generated by the PP forums

@Melanie Should be a @mention (like that one I just did to you

) or a direct message. The DM menu should be above your list of joined servers. Just follow the red dots.

Hello yall. Before v4 the map had all kinds of places in Mexico, were I live. Now it has none. Is their a way to access the old map?

@joshu https://oldmap.preciousplastic.com/

Precious Plastic Map

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Thank you!!!!

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Hi everyone. Planning to start an extrusion workspace in East of England (near Bungay). Hoping to find people who want to collect and shred around here. Happy to be involved with setting that up. I'm a mature engineering student with the Open University, due to graduate this year. Lots of experience with co-ops and community groups. More excited than I have been for a long time since discovering Precious Plastic. #introduction

Just found this today by accident. I have been wanting to shred and mold for a couple years now.

5:27 AM

I need a shredder and injection setup. So I need to learn that part.

@🤙v4-team please delete this message if you think it should not be "publicly" visible all (i think) documents which are present on https://www.sciencedirect.com/ have special IDs but downside, their access is not free.. :( for example, if you go on this book's page : https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9780128184042/biobased-polymers#book-info then on chapter 1 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128184042000011 there is a doi ID you want to paste the code i underlined in red into https://sci-hub.se Viva free scientific knowledge ! :D (edited)

Sci-Hub: устраняя преграды на пути расп...

Первый в мире пиратский ресурс, который открыл массовый доступ к десяткам миллионов научных статей

Well, you can't get in legal trouble for posting links/instructions, can you?

yes you can !

12:07 PM

see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTOKXCEwo_8 and the drama of Aron Swartz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vz06QO3UkQ

The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard

TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay Away From Keyboard

moviemaniacsDE

The Internet's Own Boy: The Story of Aaron Swartz | full movie (2014)

12:09 PM

same goes for sharing exploits to crack the PS4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AoHGJ1g9aM)

@Deleted User well I don't think those stories are related to what we have here - that is to sharing LINKS to some websites. It not that anybody puts copyrighted material here.

the laws changed and closed this loop hole in western countries (anyone else has to bend over to them too), you're basically assisting ... I am speaking with personal experience, being arrested multiple times - as the first one in east germany

see more cases here : https://torrentfreak.com/ (edited)

Hello..i have a question about LDPE is there anyone?

sure @Ardibal , what's up ?

I studied the shredder for PET and HDPE. my doubt is on LDPE for example the bags how do you get the pellets? do you take the bags (I think they are clean) but you don't put them in the blender? or grind them?

1:37 PM

before melting for the pellet is necessary the schreder ?

hmm from what i have been able to experiment LDPE bags are not quite suited for the schredder, as they are so thin the plastic will get stuck between the blades =/ i use LDPE mainly through compression molding and don't require pellets. If i'm correct, you would like to make LDPE pellets from plastic bags ? any idea on the final product ?

Hello, everybody! My name is Anton and I am from Russia. I want to build my own shredder (I was inspired by yours ideas). And i have got a big problem: laser cutting is very expensive. So, everywhere in Russia there is a huge minimum order cost - it is about $244, and jusi cutting is about $8. So, how can i cut my metall elements?

4:28 PM

I think, i can change metall(steel) to plastic from 3d-printer with 100% filling

4:28 PM

what can you advice for me?

Hello Friends!! I am Clement from Dubai, United Arab Emirates. We have quite good amount of - Post Operations Waste. We are looking for world wide solutions. Within the parameters of COLLECTING, SHREDDING and RECYCLING or REPURPOSING. The waste is from different plastic based products or polyester based. May be we can discuss and start a pilot project with those are up and running their units. Also we can collaborate for managing these projects. AVIATION WASTE HUGE OPPORTUNITY

@RichelieuGVG you can always cut metal yourself using inexpensive plasmacutter and paper templates

4:46 PM

@RichelieuGVG other option is waterjet cutting

using hand-plasmacutter is not exactly, because human factor

4:48 PM

and minimum order cost also exists for waterjet

@RichelieuGVG obviously plasmacutter is not a precision tool, but it allows you to cut out the rough shapes you need. You always have to work on it after cutting - eg 'approach the lines' using belt grinder or just file. That shouldn't be a problem for you since you don't need large volumes. Also, you don't need that much precision in shredder anyway (tenths of mm, not microns).

i just have checked price on this plasmacutter - it is about 325$, and it so big too(

@RichelieuGVG well, not sure what you mean by big, the one i use is roughly the size of old PC tower case. And the cheapest ones should cost around $150

5:05 PM

Obviously you don't need to buy it yourself though, you always can go to your local hackerspace/makerspace

5:06 PM

And yes, there are Hackerspaces in Russia ;)

can you name concretely places? (edited)

@RichelieuGVG try googling your city + Hackerspace Makerspace Fablab (edited)

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@Nick - PP France my dear, maybe i don't know but I thought the pellet was an LDPE product

pellets are made out of any type of plastic @Ardibal

just wondering if theres a way/channel connecting people with money. you guys have covered all of my "how to" questions!! amazing job! Sadly, Im broke.. I have all skills and tools to make a workspace, then collection point. just no start up money... any ideas? Im in northern California. I thought about making a pin on the map, but I feel like frowned upon? is there member pins?

We should keep count of how many people ask that. When there are enough, maybe we can have a petition to restore "getting started" pins to the map.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Until then, see: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/603872351251202059/664492305750949893

Hi y’all. Glad to be here. Stoked to learn and build with ya.

I saw someone use acetone to “melt” styrofoam and use it as a lacquer... thoughts?

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thoughts? Umm... don't mislabel it as "liqueur"? Oh... you meant helpful thoughts. Never mind.

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Can i organize people here in Myanmar (Burma) as PreciousPlasticBurma Network to share knowledge about Environment Plasic Recycle.Do i need some permission from team?

@Nick - PP France please, and with the LDPE what can be done? i ask this because in my place there are a looot of bags

12:54 PM

@Nick - PP France I thought of either dissolving or shredding, to resell the raw material

@Oak (Myanmar) See https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/branding You can also ask [at]

v4-team for a country channel for Myanmar, if you want. Also: Myanmar! Interesting.

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@Frederik C (ZA). Sure. .Its really interesting still developing country in Asia and good culture politely.I am so serious to distribute products from our community and networkexpansion.Here SMEs Industry are really growing now.We can sell business Packages for Myanmar People who has Spaces and small amount of investment which can make their life better and good for our environment too. .And we are welcome Europe and US People to come and join to our community for good education and multi cultural environment.Thanks for your information.

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please, and with the LDPE what can be done? i ask this because in my place there are a looot of bags In South Africa, commercial / industrial companies have been compressing shopping bags into heavy garden furniture for many years. (Outdoor picnic tables — weather resistant and heavy as f*&%.) I have no clear idea of the scale of the machines needed. But it is done.

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Anyone know of potential reuse for old ski boots? I have access to a ridiculous amount of then but can’t pin down what plastic they are made of or if it’s possible to melt and remold them.

@t.rex ophora I think they're probably made of Polyurethane.

@Frederik C (ZA) do you know the company of South Africa or the man that do this ?

do you know the company of South Africa or the man that do this ? Not off the top of my head. I'll try to find some info. There's a place near me that has a table set. Maybe there's logo on it. I'll check tomorrow.

Ok thanks, if you want I give you my email

11:55 PM

Because I try to create a collection point/ workshop in Ghana

11:55 PM

And if you stay in South Africa you know that the bags of water is tooo much

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@Frederik C (ZA)

@Ardibal This is basically it. I've spotted a few other potential companies on Google. But this one is in Cape Town. I'll still check for the logo though, and take a close-up picture, to show the grain. They leave the surface quite rough. These are popular for public seating areas at outdoor food-courts and parks. They tend to just leave them outside. (Much too heavy and big to be easily stolen, even by a team of guys.

) The weight also helps against the very strong winds that we get in my region. (Sometimes blows roofs off of houses.) http://newlifeplastics.co.za/furniture/picnic-sets/ https://i0.wp.com/newlifeplastics.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2013-02-08-12.40.11.jpg?fit=800%2C479 (edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) thanks

12:19 AM

And this is LDPE? Really?

They say it's compressed plastic shopping bags. That's what I've always heard. These benches have been around since I was a kid.

Hello, everyone! Is anybody here from Ukraine? Or just Russian/Ukrainian speakers?)

#🍞russia #deleted-channel

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Hello@everyone!! We are studying the new academy and other releases! jeeeeeez such an amazing job! Well done #teammagic ! We though We were experts on plastic... but here we can all get really proficient. We are setting up a workspace, community, circular design and very integrated space for #ibiza and #formentera #deleted-channel to tackle plastic pollution under PP flag. We have been working on it for over a year and we cant wait to start!! Finding a suitable space has been the main challenge here, but the worst should be over! A huuuuuge super thanks to all and especially to mr @davehakkens and @mattia.io italian flavor, like us. Nice to be in Discord ✨

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@Precious Plastic Ibiza - welcome on board, happy to see you guys around ! for anyone else : @Precious Plastic Ibiza is doing excellent work : https://www.instagram.com/plasticfreeibiza/

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dears hello am new for this group but i where following the video for the last 3 years

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am from Ethiopian ,do you have a client in Ethiopia

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@Deleted User And not only that ✨

. Chat soon!! Xx

From Sicily, just discovered preciousplastic by the site greenme (edited)

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Hey! Anyone using Notion to share ideas/projects about Precious Plastic? I was looking for some templates!

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Hey guys I have recently received 53kg of hdpe plastic and have started to make sheets with it, I am trying all different variations however think the colour doesn't quite work, what are your thoughts and what would be best to make from these? (These are the first 4).

Simulating a marble pattern tends to look more pleasing. That's very "busy". It confuses my eyes.

Hello there, I'm Omar from Peru I've been collecting various types of plastic here at my local home, I'm looking to start a community point, I'm sharing the initiative to most of my friends and most of them are interested, having a local space to share more and contribute locally. I own a small local business that sells light bulbs and its kind of a hardware store, in that way I see that I use different types of plastic and cardboard. I'm looking for guidance to improve my community point I'm recently restarting. Thank you

@t.rex ophora Ski boots are made from Thermoplastic Polyurethane. There's a company called Creamelt making them into 3d printing filament. TPU is going to be one of the more valuable recyclable polymers in the future.

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@Timberstar that’s exactly what I was hoping to do with them. Amazing. Gonna check them out.

I print with TPU already. super useful for making fittings for between parts, and making things impact resistant, or making things friction fit more easily. I always keep some around for more mechanically intense stuff.

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@Zero Plastics Australia I also share the idea that pattern looks like an abstract paint. I would recommend you first to try out on a smaller scale as possible and try to blend similar colours. In the mix you used to create that pattern I would try using less blue and less (or avoid) black. Maybe you can try combining colours using design tools to suggest combinations of colours such as this: https://paletton.com/#uid=1000u0kllllaFw0g0qFqFg0w0aF or https://coolors.co/ but offcourse it depends on the colours you have available.

@Oceane sicily where?

Hello #everyone My name Philippa and I am starting up a mixed workshop in #botswana Can someone please share the starter kit for mixed workshops with me. I have tried and tried to download it from the website with no luck at all! #Help would be greatly appreciated.

Hey! Ciao a tutt* sono di Roma, dell'Ass. Planet2084... stiamo cercando di costruire una comunità Precious Plastic negli spazi di Spin Time Labs... c'è qualcuno interessato che vuole unirsi?

@Ardibal Siracusa

@Frederik C (ZA) I feel the same way, it might be nice for photo frames or even work benches but other than that it is too "busy" I feel. @Jorge Gomes (semogj) thank you I'll give that ago for sure, I have a lot of pink blue and red bottle caps that just need shredding. Thanks again for your help.

Does someone have a folder or something will all the PP videos? I can just extract them from Youtube, but I don't know if there is a better alternative.

@Ley Klussyn what do you need it for?

@Arseniy (PL) I'm making a video about plastic for a uni project (just as a boring english exercice) and I'm talking about PP, so I thought about using the official videos. (I will also make a more real crowdfunding video soon enough and I will have the same issue)

But you need actual video files for that, not links? YouTube playlist won't work?

@Arseniy (PL) That's the issue, we need to make a video documentary, so make a video ourselves and dub over it, like if we would upload it on youtube.

11:02 AM

(Btw, it's settled someone sent me what I needed in DM haha)

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@t.rex ophora Great

I haven't tried their filament yet but I have been using Ninjatek Armadillo https://ninjatek.com/armadillo/ which is a (non-recycled) TPU filament and it's really excellent! Very durable, slightly flexible and quite easy to print, we used 235 degrees C for the print head and 40C for the heated bed. I can see a good market for TPU filament in the future, but it will take a while for it to catch on as a printing material.

amber.noelle

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@t.rex ophora Also there are a few new print heads becoming available which can print directly from pellets/flakes such as https://mahor.xyz/store/ or https://www.direct3d.it/

Productos – mahor·xyz

Aquí es donde puedes añadir nuevos productos en tu tienda.

Direct3D | Pellet Extruder | Direct3D

Visit us at K 2019 (Hall 8B/F63 Sirmax + Hall 6/E22 Kraiburg), 16-23 October, Dusseldorf, Germany Upgrade your 3D printer with Direct3D Pellet Extruder...

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Hello everybody, just wanted to say hi from Germany. Really impressed since I discovered Precious Plastic. I plan to investigate ideas about starting a project, too. Can't estimate the chances on how to survive with a business modell based on recycling plastic here in Germany. Probably it's just about doing the right thing

I'm really keen on learning more about supporting the causes and become part of the community. Would love to collaborate with a lot of ppl here. Keep up the good work! Best, Florian

@Florian_All_We_Shape hi! Actually, i was thinking similarly - probably PP's biggest benefactors are [and thus, the focus of the project should be on] the developing countries

HI @Arseniy (PL) that was my thought as well. If one would sustain a PP business in Germany, it's probably about quite mature or innovative products. But shouldn't that count for (wood) furniture makers or other products as well? Isn't it in the end just another (way of processing a) material? Another case could maybe focus on education (probably other than education in developing countries) and running it as a open workspace for custom projects. May I'd have to move to the #deleted-channel section from here on

@Timberstar thanks for all that. It really points me in the right direction! I need to learn more about the thermoplastic polyurethane recycling process!

Re: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/599259846767935519/668835412072071203 "Holy sheet!"

This sheet just got real. Same day, different sheet. To run a workspace, you gotta know your sheet. A sheet-press, helps you get your sheet together. Don't give me that sheet! I want the blue one. Now listen here, you little sheets! I'm going to make great stuff out of you. Why, hello there. What'da say we make some magic between the sheets? You're never too old for this sheet. When every workspace has a sheet-press... Get ready for a sheet storm. I don't give a sheet. I sell them in packs of four.

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So can anyone tell me what sort of power requirements these machines have? They list voltage and amperage but I dont have 400 volt service to my house. Is there a way to build these things to work on standard 110 volt outlets?

8:32 PM

Or is a machine shop the only place I can build and use one of these?

8:33 PM

Specifically asking about the new version 4.0 machines

The wind is so strong in my region, it is literally slowing down the internet. Some of our under-sea internet cables have been severed somewhere on the West African coast, and the repair ships were stuck in Cape Town harbour for two days, because of gale force winds. (edited)

@MaconGames there are kW ratings for motors on the academy pages.

hello everyone, we have created an Instagram page come and visit us! preciousplastic.it

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Hi all. Has anyone tried to mix sand with the melted plastic. I see this is being done by some brick manufacturers. My interest is to see if something similar can be done to make plastic/sand sheets (boards). The sand will hopefully help to bring the cost of the boards down. The question is how durable the boards will be. Thanks in advance, Regards, Andrew

But in that case it will be nearly impossible to recycle the same again.

The idea is to use the boards to make planter boxes for fruit trees. These can be donated to poor communities... and will serve 3 goals... a) improved nutrition for the poor, b) put plastic to good use, c) trees help sequestrate carbon

Btw, i have some concerns about using plastic in outdoor in hot climate. Won't it sag/discolour?

I don't know if it will sag/discolour. Unless others have tried, and have an answer, the best way to find out will be to try.

12:10 PM

The tree boxes are currently being made out of wood plastic. The problem is the plastic is "virgin". It will be a bigger "win" if we can use recycled plastic... but it needs to be affordable to donors.

@Andrew in South Africa as far as i know, large amount of such polymer products (also decking material) is actually made of byproducts of industrial cellulose-related processes (don't remember exactly which)

12:49 PM

So that may not be the most optimal thing to substitute of that's the case

Thanks for that. I will need to take a closer look at it. One consideration in favour of using recycled plastic is that unemployed folks can be paid to collect and clean used plastic. I suppose other products could be made with the recycled plastic. It would be nice to make the plant boxes out of the recycled plastic if possible, as it does have a nice "story" to it.

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I have a question, not sure which channel is the best one so if there is a better channel please let me know. My question is about plastic cleaning. I'm in an area with strict regulations about greywater. I am wondering, if plastics collected from people or the ocean are dirty and I setup a semi-industrial cleaning station, how is the best way to deal with the greywater? I'll need a method in which the water can be tested and local officials can OK the process as safe for the environment.

@Andrew in South Africa Introduce youself in #🌽africa . You're on the right track.

@DB2K well, doesn't the answer depend on your local definition of greywater and how it's tested and determined to be greywater or not?

Also, have you checked the How Tos on the suggested filtration system, using a repurposed, standard clothes washing machine? Maybe ask specific questions about that. And maybe discuss it in the #archived-collection channel. (Not sure.)

Hi guys, I'm Vincent, live in France. I have a 3d printing machine and want to know how generate money whith my waste. who can help me?

@Andrew in South Africa that would be good for molding probably but it would be hell on any machine tools used to process it.

5:08 PM

Wouldn't be good for CNC sheet goods for instance.

Hello guys, I'm trying to start PP here in San Francisco can you please advise me which methods would be applicable to creating table legs?

You'll want to hang out with the makers in the #deleted-channel channel. EDIT: Probably also #🍔north-america . (edited)

@Deleted User 3D Printing is not officially supported in the current Universe structure but we have users who are very keen on it. Do a text search for "3D print" in the server chat history. To get you started: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/668823949999865894

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https://www.greenlife.de/en/2015/11/25/greywater-recycling-system-250-ld/

Greywater-recycling-system 250 l/d

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came across this, should do the trick but looks pricey, any DIY alternatives might be better

is there, or can there be, a static channel (no random chatting) for people to access important links to Precious Plastics information... I thought it would be in #start-here but that just looks like a place to thank donors and collect emojis

A channel focused on environmental impact would be great too. To discuss off-gas and greywater, as these are important to getting permission where I am wanting to do Precious Plastic activity.

@DB2K I was referring to this, BTW. https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-washing-machine https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-sand-filter- https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-pre-wash

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@Mixy Normally you should be able to have everything between #updates and the official website. What else would you need, or wish to see on Discord? (genuine question)

For new people to avoid having to scroll through waves of confusing posts ...just a static link to the official website, the map (new and old), and any other helpful starter link ..perhaps even in #start-here ...static...like..where people don't flood the channel

10:52 PM

or make use of pins (but then let people know how to use pins lol)

@Mixy i personally assumed new people come here FROM the website specifically to chat, so never thought the links to website are so needed...

probably better to not make assumptions and can't see the harm in promoting the main site here where the main people are for easy access and referal

@Stomper Pupper also Bay area, also potentially interested, but totally beginner.

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@Stomper Pupper also Bay area, also potentially interested, but totally beginner.

@CelestAI great we dont have a thing going here yet but I am a designer and artist with some technical ability

I have access to some machining, but pretty much zero space. Probably can't seriously do much for at least a couple months, if that...

7:31 AM

But this is all very interesting and I would contribute if I can / could?

what kind of machining? what would we need to supplement?

Full woodshop, pretty well stocked metal and welding, though I am not trained on the metal work at this shop yet.

7:35 AM

I have fairly minimal machining experience from college.

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Also, is this the right channel? Should we go somewhere else?

Hi my name is Jackson from SA basically from limpopo province... I collecting plastic bottles.. I want to start recycling and produce through plastic recycling

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Also, is this the right channel? Should we go somewhere else? Technically, #just-chatting is a "free play" area. But there is a whole other server for Americans, divided into states. Or you guys can just DM.

Haha sure. :-) Is the other server a totally separate discord? I don't see per US-state channels in the North America section

Sniff around in #🍔north-america . I saw an invite somewhere. Yes, it's a separate server, altogether.

Thanks

Thanks Actually, we just want to get rid of you. The general opinion of America is pretty much at rock bottom on the interwebz. And the rest of us don't want to have to keep hiding our disdain for you.

(That's a joke... sort of.

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Oh, that was "mild" compared to what I and other non-Americans are saying on other servers. Trust me. Impeach away, Yankies! Impeach away.

Hi all. I'm interested in setting up an extrusion workshop in the UK, but I'd really like to commission/buy some beams from someone already making extruded beams so I can do some tests. Who would you guys recommend I speak with?

@tomdussek #deleted-channel

Arseniy, can you help me?

@tomdussek please ask on #deleted-channel channel, I'm not in the uk

Thanks for your response, Arseniy, although its not only UK people I want to speak with.

Hello, guys, that is again me! I have got an idea, how to make a shredder without laser cutting. So, we can by a lot of metall plates, the thikness is 1,25-2 mm. and using an electro-fretsaw(in russian it is "лобзик") and small saw for metall we can a little cut metall to get needed detail. if you want to be exact, you can cut metall, attaching paper drawings to a piece of metall. all needed holes you can drill. and i would like to use 4 metall pins instead hex shaft. so, what do you think?

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@RichelieuGVG people go the laser cutter route because it's faster/convenient and doesn't require tools (edited)

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That allows more people in the Western world to get interested and participate

5:55 PM

@RichelieuGVG please try your method and share the results, might be interesting. Btw the name of your tool is jigsaw

5:58 PM

Current design is definitely not the cheapest but it strikes some balance between being diy-able and convenient

Hi were can i download the Action Plan from the web site?

Hello, guys, that is again me! I have got an idea, how to make a shredder without laser cutting. So, we can by a lot of metall plates, the thikness is 1,25-2 mm. and using an electro-fretsaw(in russian it is "лобзик") and small saw for metall we can a little cut metall to get needed detail. if you want to be exact, you can cut metall, attaching paper drawings to a piece of metall. all needed holes you can drill. and i would like to use 4 metall pins instead hex shaft. so, what do you think?

@RichelieuGVG Sounds good to me!

I love hand tools. It’s a bunch of work but making more with less is always preferable in my book.

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I tried to find a older post on "cutting" the blades out with a continuous series of holes made with a drill-press. Not sure if it was deleted. Basically, someone cut out the blades like a cookie cutter (but segmented). (edited)

https://i.imgur.com/sfrbpbV.jpg - just tried out the method proposed by Chinese researchers and Stanford Uni for recycling Expanded Polystyrene with Mealworms. And so far so good.

3:31 AM

I'm personally on the way to producing a plasma cut shredder, to widen access to these tools.

Is expanded PS like PS foam?

Well I should say that I'm on the way to converting a CoreXY reprap printer to do plasma cutting.

3:32 AM

And yes; I'll link the study in a second.

3:33 AM

https://news.stanford.edu/pr/2015/pr-worms-digest-plastics-092915.html

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Hello, guys, that is again me! I have got an idea, how to make a shredder without laser cutting. So, we can by a lot of metall plates, the thikness is 1,25-2 mm. and using an electro-fretsaw(in russian it is "лобзик") and small saw for metall we can a little cut metall to get needed detail. if you want to be exact, you can cut metall, attaching paper drawings to a piece of metall. all needed holes you can drill. and i would like to use 4 metall pins instead hex shaft. so, what do you think?

@RichelieuGVG is there many in Russia working on community recycling? A friend recently linked me to a program she participates in, in Izhevsk. But she wasn't sure if it's community or government run.

@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) My question is: what do you do when the mealworms become beetles?

So this is day 1.5.

3:38 AM

Since I bought them.

3:38 AM

Standard mealworm farming requires separating the beetles into another layer, with a mesh screen underneath, so the eggs fall down to the bottom tray.

3:39 AM

I'm not at that stage yet.

3:39 AM

Ohhh, and you get the compost/fertiliser very simply. You put the contents of the bottom tray into a sifter, and shake it. And it falls through.

I've got polystyrene egg containers I'd like to dispose of properly. My city doesn't recycle it, and I don't know of any other useful application for it. Though I'm not hugely keen on having a teeming beetle farm in my apartment.

Yeah; it was after discovering not only that my city doesn't accept polystyrene, and my sort of personal journey to zero waste that I began investigating. There's some other options like making bricks out of them. Or charcoal water filters.

Oh? The latter has me intrigued. How might one do that?

That was one that I saw in an article, but without detail.

3:45 AM

The worm farm only really needs a drawer in a cupboard.

I bought sand, horticultural charcoal, and gravel to try and make a homemade water filter and then I noticed the California Proposition 65 warning on the sand. Prop 65 is basically "everything is known to cause cancer in the State of California."

They like dark spaces.

3:46 AM

Yeah. And actually from anther discussion I saw on PS, I would not trust it for water filtering. PS itself is fine, but PS used in building insulation contains fire retardant chemicals which the state of California would have a meltdown over.

That kind of put the brakes on my water filter project. Though the vendor said the warming is because of the silica, if inhaled, though they went on to disclaim that they couldn't recommend that I use it for anything except soil cover, for their own liability's sake.

3:46 AM

*warning

Ahh, yeah the silica thing is definitely inhalation. Big issue here.

3:47 AM

Also; if you can find anyone nearby with chickens, they will probably be willing to trade mealworms for eggs.

So, I'm wondering, if I put the sand in boiling water to kill anything microbial, might it be fine for the filter? I don't plan on huffing it.

Cook it in the oven to get it to a proper hot temperature.

3:49 AM

Boiling water has failed me for disinfectant a few times with beer brewing.

Interesting: mealworms -> eggs. Didn't know that was a transaction that could exist. I live such an urban life, my natural paradigm is so skewed.

3:49 AM

Ooh! Beer brewing. I want to get back into that.

Yeah, chickens love mealworms as a protein booster. That's my intention once I get more than I need for the PS I have.

Tried it about a decade ago and didn't succeed. Discovered it was because I tried to use screw top bottles with my cap press and the seals weren't airtight.

Ah yeah, you just screw the lids on.

3:50 AM

I started it, in order to recycle bottles.

If only I'd known!

3:52 AM

I've got a bunch of bottles just sitting around. Little 12 oz, 450 ml Grolsh swing tops, and 20 oz.

3:52 AM

Need to fill them with something. Might as well be beer.

Or cider!

Tried making kombucha and one of my batches became inoculated with mold.

3:53 AM

Cider is delicious.

Got to disinfect!

True that.

3:54 AM

I thought I had, but ... well, I'm loath to admit it, but I live in a rental that's been sorely neglected and my kitchen had (probably still has) a big mold problem.

Ahhh yeah, that can be difficult.

Landlord "fixed" it by completely breaking the law about abating mold (and also lead paint! Hooray). Hired people who didn't speak English and didn't know what they were getting themselves into. No respirators, no HVAC, no HEPA vacuum.

3:57 AM

I had a HEPA mask that I wore while they were here, but now I'm stuck in the space and, of course, there's lingering traces of the shoddy work. Kind of makes me think that a new kombucha endeavor isn't going to end well ... and that's, of course, the least of my concerns.

Sounds like typical landlord stuff.

It sure is.

3:58 AM

Lack of ethics and empathy at its finest.

3:59 AM

@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) so, do the beetles fly?

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How do you keep them sequestered? They off-gas CO², right? The mealworms, anyway.

So I was thinking about the safety measures that need to be taken to have a safe pp workspace. We know that fumes are released during the recycling process , right? These fumes are toxic to us humans but also ... aren't these fumes toxic to other forms of life? My concern is that the typical ventilation system installed in a workshop would release these harmful fumes into the environment, creating air pollution or acid rain or inflecting harm Wildlife .

I've been thinking of that, too, @Ottawamember

Unless of course, these fumes are treated by the carbon I heard detoxifies it, and thus NO toxic fumes end up in the air through the ventilator

How do you keep them sequestered? They off-gas CO², right? The mealworms, anyway.

@Steve Soldwedel - Bronx I don't believe the beetles fly. And the amount of co2 they release would be negligble compared to an human activity required to recycle polystyrene.

I joked the other day that the only logical solution to the problem of human life is that we don't exist.

Not all plastics release toxic fumes when recycles.

4:02 AM

*recycled

True, but in reality most of it does, although by varying amounts. And now these stupid additives create even more toxicity

The additives are a big problem, but I don't agree with the statement that most do.

@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) so, you keep the mealworms in a container with an open lid, in a drawer? And they just chill there, chomping away?

Pin holes in the lid.

4:04 AM

For air.

I read in the article that their waste can be composted. That's cool.

Yeah, that's what I'm doing this for. For my garden.

Envious that you have a garden.

I live in an apartment, but I've got a *touches wood good landlord who lets me use some of the common area.

That's nice.

4:06 AM

I'm plotting to make a hydroponic setup in my apartment to grow lettuces.

Well this might be helpful?

4:06 AM

The mealworms that is.

I don't know, actually. It doesn't use any soil. I've still got some researching to do, but it seems to run on just water with growth formula / fertilizer in it.

Technically, the mealworms produce a type of fertiliser. It's their poop.

But I do like the prospect of potentially trading at the farmers market mealworms for eggs.

@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) are u sure the mealworms are OK eating this stuff

Yes. See the study I linked above.

@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) I think it's going to take me a minute to adapt to putting worm poop directly into my food source, I've been so corrupted by abiotic/antiseptic thinking about food.

The optimum amount appears to be around 10% of their diet by weight.

Wow

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4:11 AM

That's so cool

4:11 AM

The more you know

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0045653517317022

I'm glad this is being researched further

Summary: they eat more PS if it's about 10% of their diet, compared to if it's 100% of their diet.

Wait that sounds wrong

4:14 AM

How do they eat more if they eat a lower percentage

If you only feed them PS, they won't eat all of it.

This was over a long term period, so my guess is a PS only diet starved them of certain nutrients and the colony didn't grow as fast.

Oh ok

Anybody know the banner size of the map profile image? Thanks in advance!

Did anyone work on Hexagonal funnel to build solar oven?

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51197463

People still want plastic bottles, says Coca-Cola

The drinks giant says it will not ditch plastic outright but will try to recycle more.

11:59 AM

Completely superfluous product with no nutritional value can't "ditch plastic bottles" because it would "alienate consumers" and "hit sales " Heaven forbid we inhibit sales of sweet acid capable of rotting teeth and cleaning drains ... which people pour down their throats.

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They are producing 200,000 bottles every 20secs(approx.)

JHFC.

@davehakkens

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This is my first plastic beam. I do not had an extruder or shredder

@DB2K isn't that...?

@zila how did you make it without the extruder?

@Arseniy (PL) ...cheeky?

Lvl 80

I do it manually. I cut it with knife and bake it with stove. It's really is a hard work. But I want to recycle so badly. Now I took an initiative to make my own extruder.

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@zila where are from?

Im from Malaysia. Apparently there is no one available to ask in Malaysia chat box

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12:10 PM

I can't find the extruder screw.

@zila 30mm screw is available from China via robotdigg.com for 100$ (edited)

Oh okey thanks for the info @Arseniy (PL). Do you guys already making an extruder?

12:13 PM

I'm battling with plastic here.

hello guys i want to open a work space in my community , we are a student activity and we want to solve plastic problem how should we start ?

@oliver possible way (based on real group) get together, build set of machines (shredder + something else, eg injection), organize some workshops for general public as part of bigger events (contract organizers), then proceed to your own events when recognizable enough, get a grant or win an award

is there an action plan in the site @Arseniy (PL)

@zila we're all fighting that battle; it's a worldwide scourge. Although I get that it may be more obvious where you are. In the US, one of the big problems is that prosperous communities don't see their waste en masse, and no one listens to the poor communities where the landfills are. Or, as I'm sure you know, wealthy Western countries send their garbage to your country, and its neighbors.

@oliver no idea, plz check yourself

I am curious about the flammability factor of products (furniture) I am considering creating from recycled plastic. Is there an additive that can be added to the shredded plastic to decrease the fact that (according to google) plastic is 10 times more flammable than wood? Are there laws that might prevent me from selling such furniture given the flammability?

@Precious Plastic @🤙v4-team

From the message thread, hopefully you can see why we need to bring back the FAQ channel from last year.

@Steve Soldwedel - Bronx : I joked the other day that the only logical solution to the problem of human life is that we don't exist. Well, that's basically what George Carlin said, why back. And he wasn't actually joking. I actually said the same thing to Lee Camp, months ago, on Twitter. (His promo banner at the time said he was the "new George Carlin," or something to that effect.) That's why I haven't fully gotten behind Extinction Rebellion. Are we sure it's a bad thing? But, hey, if he doesn't like the outcome of the trial, "your" (by manner of speaking) president might help us out with that

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@Frederik C (ZA) I wasn't really joking, either.

too bad we may not leave a second chance behind - i heard the atmosphere may need tens of thousands years to rebuild- luckily the Google AI may still whisper love and cat songs to new kinds of life

I am sure it keeps backups of good old George Carlin around, for own pleasure quasi

Just to be clear, I'm not "dissing" Lee Camp. He's cool.

If the current subscription rate holds, this server should reach 2000 members in about 2.5 days. Less than a month after the official launch. That's impressive.

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sorry, im asking here because i dont know where to direct questions like this. Im coming from the #deleted-channel channel and there is someone from panama asking if that channel (#panama) can be added. Also that #deleted-channel get moved to the north america section (its currently in south america; a geographic miscalculation).

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Or the SOUTH AMERICA section can be renamed Latin America if thats more easy

Or the SOUTH AMERICA section can be renamed Latin America if thats more easy It was, but then it's tricky to incorporate some of the Caribbean. That's probably how the Mexico slip-up happened. Ping [at]

v4-team in #deleted-channel with the request for Panama and moving Mexico, if it's not added / moved soon. (edited)

How do y'all deal with the discouragement of big recycling programs being terrible and hemmoraging money? I'm writing my proposal and it's hard to make this look profitable enough to get a grant.

Haha @h0neycrumb , it’s tough to make it profitable in a developed nation, we both live in the same city and all our plastic gets shipped a province over, hundreds of km away. Ideally/endgame the PP idea becomes a trade and not a single gram of recyclable plastic goes to those organizations, our blue bins do not contain any plastic so that program goes away as well. This won’t happen overnight but we are getting started on that journey. (edited)

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Anyone have the logo of PP to download??

That will be in each individual starter kit. They are colour-coded for the workspace type. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/branding

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Excellent, thanks!!

Hello, I’m an undergrad university student and have been wanting to start a Precious Plastic workspace in my community for a while. I remember seeing that a professor on here received grant money to build the machines and was wondering if I (as an undergrad) would be able to do the same, as in request money to build the machines. If so would I be able to do it on my own or would I need a professor to help me write the grant? Any help will be appreciated!

I have same question like @bambina but I already had the grant, and I'm still in the need to build an extruder.

@zila How did you get the grant money? Did you submit the proposal on your own or with the help of an advisor?

Yes. @bambina. Ive been recycling plastic in my community years ago. We just make it into something useful like plastic bottle to pencil cases. And that thing is not sustainable. Until I saw precious plastic. And decided to change the level of the business to make something more acceptable in the market. That's why my grant succeed only to buy machine or make a new one.

Bonsoir, je suis un jeune entrepreneur sénégalais qui travaille sur le recyclage et la transformations de déchets.

here's your next v4 product

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Hi Bea. I was here www.preciousplastic.com a member posted https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51197463 I would like to start PP in NL, CAN. Coke sponsor 50% or $15K? I get funding also here. http://mmsb.nl.ca/funding-programs/ Then you be a Community Sponsor Cheers, Craig

People still want plastic bottles, says Coca-Cola

Drinks giant Coca-Cola says it will not ditch plastic outright but will try to recycle more.

Funding Programs - MMSB - Multi-Materials Stewardship Board

Since 2007, more than $12 million has been allocated to environmental projects in Newfoundland and Labrador through MMSB's funding programs.

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Hi All Here is what I like to create. POWER we ALL Need and Can HAVE It!! https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/power-we-all-need-and-can-have-it/ I know how to make batteries for us! This will help us All, get off Oil and get Sustainable I require an HDPE Case 1mm and/or 2mm thick material 8cm x 11cm rectangle 1mm Radius corners 1cm width 1. Create a Mold for single and multi parts, Quick release 2. Make Battery Frames Who would like to Create with me? Cheers, Craig

Craig Lewis

POWER we ALL Need and Can HAVE It!! - Dave Hakkens

I know how to make batteries for us! This will help us All, get off Oil and get Sustainable I require an HDPE Case 1mm and/or 2mm thick material 8cm x 11cm rectangle 1mm Radius corners 1cm - Dave Hakkens

Did i read a message about a shop in Maastricht, i would be intrested to help

Too bad that plastic bags from grocery stores will clog our shredders. or at least mine

Too bad that plastic bags from grocery stores will clog our shredders. or at least mine Can they maybe be fused / compressed to make them brittle enough to shred? Basically making a hard sheet first, then shredding it? Just speculating.

interesting thought ^

This is what a 1 hour walk resulted in at Henne Strand in Denmark. We were 4 people collecting and We actually didn’t plan to when arriving. A very sad sight.

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I'm sure most of us are on the same page with feelings about Coca Cola, but to me, this Mega Factory documentary feels more like an undercover expose of crimes against humanity. https://youtu.be/iuDjAwXjzg0

Watch and Learn

Ultimate factories Coca Cola -Total Quality Management

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11:49 AM

1. Water extraction. 2. Government subsidised corn syrup/type 2 diabetes. 3. Virgin plastic manufacturing. 4. Nonsense policy on customer plastic recycling responsibility. Anyone for anymore?

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-world-plastic-waste/

Hi guys, i just hered about precious plastic, i live in panama and didn't see anyone doing anything on the map nor on the chat. What would be a good way for me to start?

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5:07 PM

Hi guys, i just hered about precious plastic, i live in panama and didn't see anyone doing anything on the map nor on the chat. What would be a good way for me to start?

A Panama channel has been requested and is on its way. Weekends are a bit "slow" on the Discord. Volunteers, after all.

Hello! I am new in discord. Can we visit the main workspace and see pp in action

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? if it´s posible who I need to contact?

Hello , I am also new here, can I visit any workshop near Netherlands?

@Frederik C (ZA) Yes they can be fused to make them thicker. I did that by ironing them together (use baking Paper so the plastic doesn't stick) and then shredding the sheet-like material. It works but is veeeeeeery time inefficient

Something to experiment with then, I guess. (Sheetpress, maybe?)

sheetpress sounds good

@Rajesh @humberto The new map will give you the most up-to-date locations, but it is still being populated. The old map has relatively "out-dated" information, but will probably give you more options. For PP HQ, you're looking for Eindhoven. Old map: https://oldmap.preciousplastic.com/

Thanks @frederikc

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thanks!! @Frederik C (ZA)

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hello, i’m lun and i’m keen on starting a collection point but it’s still very unclear to me as to where the plastic i’ve collected would go to, could someone please enlighten me :’)

@ROGU3D the theorical answer is "to the local shredder space". But as you probably don't have local shredder space, try to reach out to other people in your area (inside and outside precious plastic) to see if they want to create a local precious plastic community point, and if some of them want to build a shredder space, so you will be able to work with them :)

ahhh ic....so technically ever city has to have the collection, shredding and sheet pressing stations?

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thank u btw! @Ley Klussyn

Technically every "local perimeter" (could range from a sector of a big city to an actual region depending of the number of people, but generally a city), should have at least one shredding space and a one-two collection points. Then the shredded plastic can be recycled into any kind of workspace : Injection, Extrusion, Sheets,... but also spaces outside of precious plastic. (Like a fablab or a small company). But the bigger the precious plastic network grow the more it's possible to have several collection/shredding/making space.

ah....alright got it. thank u!

what does everyone do to clean their plastics prior to or post shredding?

normal dish soap always does it for me. just soak everything over night and rinse the next day

does this work well for removing sticker labels as well?

if the whole sticker label is still on i use a blow dryer to get it off, usually does the trick. if there’s still residue i use rubbing alcohol

Man, the labels are killing me. I've got some hummus tubs where the labels are glued on beyond belief and then they're not just paper, but covered in a layer of plastic film. I need to just start making my own hummus, because packaging in general is just ridiculous. Even if we can salvage and recycle most of it, there is still waste.

No. Because most of the label are pvc, so as a same with pet, they will sini You have to remove the label before shreader

There must be a way to shred the material prior to any cleaning, the press the material through like a french press machine with cleaning agents.

word, a lot of store bought product’s packaging are completely redundant @Steve Soldwedel - Bronx

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On another note, I buy whole bean coffee from a local roaster, and they use paper bags ... but the bags have a liner. Another roaster who's farther away and to which I can't as easily get has paper bags with a compostable lining. Yet the closer roaster's bag linings are plastic. I called their warehouse to confirm. I suggested that they switch to the compostable bags and they acted like I was ruining their day.

@'][' ][ ][V][ here in indonesia i sort the bottle manually

@ariel this makes sense, probably the most efficient way.

hello guys, where i can find calculation for shredder? not drawings, but only calculations of form, geometry, loads, and other physical parameters

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or @davehakkens , how did you calculate the shredder?

Hello guys! I’m from montreal, Canada, and i just find the web site of precious plastic... and nos i’m to excited to sleep! It’s been a while since i try to find the best job for me you know the one who give me the feeling to be important and to do something great for the world... i’m a hard worker, made some school in heavy duty mechanics and now that i see this opportunity i just need some beautiful people to help me to understand how i can start it and for how much money so... thank you all! And have a nice night!

hello!!!! @Stef i feel your enthusiasm hahah

tbh if you have a garage you can just work out of it!

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that would save you so much on finding a workspace and you can spend more on getting bags to collect separate all the different plastics in

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in total in spent less than 100SGD on all the supplies i needed!

I’m not so lucky but my step family have a huge one and they have like... a stock room half empty so... maybe y can pay a small rent to work there it’s at 5 minute walk of my house

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What is sgd?

sgd is singapore dollars

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awshit yea that sounds great

Haha do you know buy any chance how much it is in canadian dollard?

hm it varies honestly on the store u go to and such but it’s arnd 97 canadian dollars

Oh shit ! And what donyou have and what do you do?

https://www.wired.com/story/a-surge-of-new-plastic-is-about-to-hit-the-planet/

A Surge of New Plastic Is About to Hit the Planet

A world awash in plastic will soon get slammed by more, as major oil companies ramp up their production.

Good for use ^^’ i guess.....

Hello, I remember seeing a video a while back that cut plastic bottles in a rotational direction (like fishing line, not flakes). I was trying to see if anyone happens to remember the video in the PP universe or if I saw it elsewhere. (edited)

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] do you mean when a bottle is turned in to a long ribbon of plastic? I've seen similar on Instagram and Pinterest. I'll try to find what I mean...

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@natu https://youtu.be/EjSNJAIpG0I

Insider

Device turns bottles into plastic rope

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You don't need fancy device for that though, YT is full of diy instructions using knife blades and a stick

Sure, not advocating buying the product.

@Arseniy (PL) interesting article. Oil companies see plastics as the growth area instead of fuel. In a way this could be good - at least the polycarbons in plastics can be used again- instead of being burned and polluting the air. But it would be better to leave the oil in the ground an re-use the plastic we have. (edited)

Appaears to be different from what I saw but the same concept, thank you!!

@Timberstar agree. I'd still like to find a way to 'trick' them into doing something even less harmful using market forces

@Arseniy (PL) Eventually the recycling movement can become strong enough and the demand for new plastic low enough that it will not be worth it for them. For now the challenge is to find ways to turn low value plastic waste into high value products which people actually buy. (edited)

Hello I am from Russia! How can I participate in the development of your project and make money? I can invest up to 300 dollars

@miguelrare🧙 hi! check out #🍞russia channel

thanks!))

@miguelrare🧙 basically, you can build one or more PP machines and try to sell products out of pp plastic. Or alternatively you can earn money by building and selling machines themselves

@Arseniy (PL) OK, I will take a look)

Hey guys My team from singapore just created a precious plastic insta account and we would be eternally grateful if you could follow and share! @ preciousplasticsingapore

thank u

Hi members, good day. Am Peter from Tororo, Uganda, Africa. I have just downloaded this application. My town is having a big challenge on management of plastic waste materials. I would like to introduce this project in my community and save our community from the adverse effects of poor plastic disposal. I would like to get the concept, how to get and fabricate the equipments and any other use information that can guide me in starting this project. Thanks.

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@Karizha Peter hi, Peter.

Hello @Karizha Peter , thats amazing! If you are interested in setting up a collection point, https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-a-collection-point here’s the link to and step by step guide! Essentially you’ll need to form a team, find a workspace, and start planning!

Make a bike powered plastic shredder #preciousplastic

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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After the collection and separation of plastics, we usually shred them and transform them into reusable items such as cups, plates, bins etc.!

Mine name is Peter too

I just joined the platform as well. I live in a cooperative community in brazil

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has anyone attempted or seen a pedal powered shredder?

@ninja http://plastic.singularmars.com/pedal-and-motor-shredder

javier

Pedal and motor shredder

haha nice

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takes up a huge amount of space though, compared to a motor driven one

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buying a full unit locally is too expensive for non-business use

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over 5k aud

Anyone found a way making things food safe? I'm looking at maybe using a combination of food safe material on contact surfaces with recycled plastic for the majority of the construction but not sure if the argument holds up to standards

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I'm from eu if anyone knows the design laws

I laser cut a wood template today of a shredder blade.

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@Stef I am located in brockville ontario, not terribly far from Montreal. Looking to start up a workspace in the coming months. I will be create machines and shredding plastics. What skills do you have.

@ninja Bike shredder https://youtu.be/lxz3nAcZquY https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/the-story-behind-the-bicycleshredder/ https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/human-powered-shredder

Dave Hakkens Community

interesting. shame they don't show it in action. there's only a brief scene near the start where you actually see the shredder, and it doesn't look like it will do a good job (high speed and not enough torque)

I'm interested in the concept, because of unreliable access to electricity in parts of my country, and other places. Also escalating energy cost, for anything that draws power from the grid. Also, maybe for the idea of turning community gathering spots into temporary shredder workspaces. (edited)

just need gears or pulleys

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and test until you find the right amount required to shred whatever you need

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im looking at shredding acrylic scraps

Hi @H0Y_. I'm also interested in using recycled plastic for food or food production applications. Also though about coating a surface with virgin plastic, as this should work for some products. Maybe there is some food safe epoxy, silicone or similar that could be used to make a food safe coating. Happy to explore this with more people

A maker in #🥝oceania sold bowls made from HDPS breadtags to a retail store. He said he was getting food safety certification. It's just tricky, because most of us can't really control the material's whole production chain. Also, increasing the further use of virgin plastic seems dubious in principle. Trying to solve yet another problem that shouldn't exist, in a far from optimal way. So, the non-plastic coating idea is better. The economics of plastic is counter-intuitive, to say the least. Maybe because it's meant to be. (edited)

Also, maybe for the idea of turning community gathering spots into temporary shredder workspaces. It could potentially be turned into a fun workshop for kids or adults. Locally, I've come across a maker who builds exercise bikes that power a blender. So, you throw all the ingredients into the blender and then pedal the bike to make your own smoothie. He does it as a corporate "office party" kind of thing. Of course, with plastic you don't get a smoothie. But maybe it can be turned into something motivating and/or fun, in a similar way.

I think a polythene coating like inside drinks cans could work well with food as your talking about microns of plastic from a non-recycled process. If you did an LCA of the overall product it's more important to me to divert waste streams back for future use than to cut out virgin material entirely. it's something for the future but need stepping stones to get there

Interesting summary on the state of Microplastic research and the effect on marine life. https://theconversation.com/microplastic-pollution-is-everywhere-but-scientists-are-still-learning-how-it-harms-wildlife-129882

Microplastic pollution is everywhere, but scientists are still lea...

Many studies find microplastics have important negative effects on animals, but others don't.

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Has anyone read The Expanse novel series, or watched the show? It's more obvious in the books, but there is a universal recycling system at work. Everything goes in the recycler, organic and synthetic, and the system works it out. They never go into the specifics, but, presumably, 250 years in the future (if we make it that far), it shouldn't be too far fetched.

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I suppose it's all about breaking everything down into it's most basic parts to the extent that they're useful. Perhaps not atomizing everything, but recognizing how far something must be deconstructed to render it again useful.

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i'd imagine you'd have to have huge amounts of energy available

Like Carl Sagan says, everything is star-stuff. There is so much potential for us to realize, as a species. It's a shame that we've barely scraped the surface of it.

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@ninja You're right. In the books, they have fusion.

with enough energy, you could run all kinds of scanning systems and run it at scale

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atomising things with lasers

Nice to think about. A long way away.

Star Trek's teleporters are basically the ultimate recycling machines. You step in the chamber, and are "recycled" somewhere else in the Universe. (So, why was everybody not immortal?) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Because story arcs.

I could go for hours on sci-fi, so I better not really start.

But, basically, in the idea you describe, you either need a lot of energy at once, or small amounts of energy, dispersed at the nano scale. So, a swarm of nano-assemblers taking apart and building objects, one molecule or atom at a time. Almost like a super-advanced 3D-printer. The concept was shown nicely, but highly exaggerated in the remake of The Day The Earth Stood Still. But, yeah — if you are a highly advanced ET, and you want to exterminate a specific species from a planet... that's probably the way to go. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_goo (edited)

Hi

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So for making a v3 shredder, how big a stainless steel do we need? The total dimensions to build it?

hi, do any one here have some experience to share in reagarding milling the preciuos plastic sheets on CNC machines? we have experince with akrylic and pvc but never done recyceld sheets. is it more or less the same??

@steen1605 start with test of low feeds and speeds then gradually get faster. The issue is the composition of your plastic will be different to everyone else's because of too many variabilities in the plastic.

@protohub thanx. guess its just testing, testing and testing:)

@steen1605 'yeah mate the grind begins but its the reward at the end that is so sweet!

@Frederik C (ZA) @Steve Soldwedel - Bronx @ninja Reminds me of Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age. Future nano tech can make anything, so diamond replaces all sorts of materials.

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I'm not sure the human psyche can handle post-scarcity. I'm expecting a YouTube channel dedicated to seeing what can be penetrated by .50 calibre diamond bullets, fired from a Gatling gun. Filmed with high-speed cameras, from every possible angle. Just because. Why not? Also, in a World where you can mail someone a postcard, that turns itself into a self-detonating thermonuclear warhead while they are sleeping... what could possibly go wrong?

Yeah, I think we're on the only track that befits us: self-annihilation. We so poorly use the gift of life.

Hi, is there anyone from Argentina

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?

@dido Look in #🍌latin-america

Thanks

Hello there, I hope I send this is the right place but I just join this discord and I want to introduce myself ! I'm Nora, I'm a French student in sciences and technologies at Paris Saclay University and I have a school project starting soon... So my thought was to create a machine to recycle plastic and I found the precious plastic community which is great ! I would like to build my own version but what I really want is to create a graphic interface to command the machine so that everyone can use it even if they are scared of the technical stuff and everything. I was also thinking about a machine to recycle paper/cardboard at home so that it won't need to travel kilometers to be recycled. Nice to meet everyone !

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for which part of the recycling process?

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shredder is basically on/off

@slt_norad hi Nora! Out of interest, what kind of UI are you thinking about? I thought there is just one on/off switch ;)

Well my idea was to automate the process betwin a shredder and a molding machine so that you could "order" very simple objects as pens for examples

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@slt_norad Regarding cardboard, did you see this ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItPfhx3ulw, I've seen people commenting that the less shredding/mixing the better, and you/we/they should try to find a method to decompose the cardboard with the less "cutting" as possible.

@slt_norad tbh not very feasible. so what i'm picturing (of your idea) is the end user can choose a product they want such as pen, block, sheet, bowl, etc. The machine then produces that from shredded plastic to finished product. you need some expensive machinery to automate that

Hi All, I wanted to introduce our family. We are using the precious plastic shredder and now are ready to start using our precious plastic compression over and bowl mold. We are part of the Precious Plastic Los Angeles group. Looking forward to connecting with more people. -Justin and his family

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@Ley Klussyn Thank you! It's very inspiring ! (edited)

@ninja Yes that's kind of it... Ideally, I would like people to put their plastic bottles in the machine (I was thinking of an "only hdpe" machine) and then get away with a pen ! But I don't think I can make the process fast enough though. I struggle to get information on that but it seems like the extrusion and the assembling of the pen would take some time. For the budget, it is going to be tough you are right ! I'm currenlty working on a more concrete version of this project to see if I can get sponsors and various help, but right now it is still a baby idea. Confronting it here is very helpfull so thank you for your answer !

This server has hit the 2000 member milestone in the first month. Most servers don't manage that in the first year. Nice one!

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Hi, just wanted to introduce myself. My name's Jesse Casey I am president of the Precious Plastics club at my school :P. We are looking to create a local precious plastics community in our area. We are located at the Santa Barbara City College CA USA

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@ninja it's trivial to change the speed on a bicycle shredder.

https://www.facebook.com/1183373038462323/posts/1728869510579337/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e

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Buen día, comparto un link del proyecto en el cual queremos implementar sus ideas, desde Marcala Honduras.

Has anyone ever tried injecting plastic into a silicone mold? If I didn’t need the object to be very precise would this potentially work? I think the temperature of the melted plastic would be lower than the max temp. allowed by silicone. If anyone’s ever tried this let me know how it went. (edited)

Has anyone ever tried injecting plastic into a silicone mold? Yes. Search the chat history.

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@Frederik C (ZA) Haha wonderful! Thank you!

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hello, i’m really interested in this concept. i have a set of parts that can be injection molded to create deplorable structures—from toy scale to habitable scale. i would like to know more about injection molding recycled plastics.

"deplorable"❓

Isn't there a comic by that name?

Hi All, New to the group and extremely interested in creating a workshop for taking, shredding, and extruding, in New England. Does anyone know where the latest version of the workspace calculator is? The link on the website is to the owner's trash file, so I can only assume it is older. Thanks! Chris

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The link on the website is to the owner's trash file, so I can only assume it is older. Please provide the page with the relevant weblink, and the link's URL. Maybe what you need has been moved to the V4 download kits.

Hi, I'm new here. Also new on discord. We are starting to build a mixed workspace in Eindhoven! With a bunch of volunteers and youthworkers and Brunel is supporting us. Goal is the building proces and of course afterwards recycling. We involve young people in it, to help them get back on track (school or work).

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Has anyone ever tried injecting plastic into a silicone mold? If I didn’t need the object to be very precise would this potentially work? I think the temperature of the melted plastic would be lower than the max temp. allowed by silicone. If anyone’s ever tried this let me know how it went.

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) There is actually a Community How-to about this on its way!! (Will be online very soon)

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@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) haven't done injection, but had some nice results with compression molding in silicone --> https://www.instagram.com/p/BwCiwFcnfMD/ https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv4IKxlH82b/

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I'm new to discord so haven't yet figured out how to reply to comments or threads but I will get there . To that end, to answer @Frederik C (ZA) The page with the bad links are https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business/workspacecalculator AND https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business/businessplan Both pages have trashed items right near the top. Thanks.

@Kat Excellent! Thank you!

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@Nick - PP France Those look really nice! I’m happy this works. Thank you!

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Hi everyone! I am new here but just wanted to check if anyone is based in London and is already working on Precious Plastic? Or if any of you knows of someone. Thank you

@Li Sa check out #deleted-channel & https://www.facebook.com/groups/962388833866425/ <- Precious Plastic UK facebook group page=) (edited)

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@Nick - PP France this is brilliant. Totally what I needed to see! I'll be emulating

I find Polystyrene the easiest plastic to break apart. it's thinner then paper

@FireAlarmTechGuy4444 @me to msg well, PS from electronics packaging can be in quite thick blocks.

@Arseniy (PL) not to mention it gets clogged in my shredder and sticks. PS lids and food containers are like paper

That's why I think that the hot wire thing will work. When the packaging strips are thin enough, just chuck it into a big plant pot and stomp it with your feet... like stomping grapes "old school." Then shovel the flakes and dust like snow. (I think.

I don't know much about snow.) (edited)

One of the "recipes" I've seen proposed for bricks made by the densifier method. (10% EPS.) A bit vague, though. I need to investigate further. (edited)

Any precious plastic workspaces in Ireland?

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/100-new-bins-installed-around-3790579

100 new bins installed around Bristol to recycle disposable coffee...

The cups will be sent to a specialist recycling centre where the plastic lining is removed

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This is great news. I was hoping to harvest the cities coffee cup lids using a similar scheme.

@cluksha where in New England?

Hi there my friends

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Hellowo

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Hey everyone!!! I have a question, in our project in Lisbon we need to create a collection point and I saw the stickers that we could give to people that join our collection circle, I wanted to do a sticker of our own but I want of course to put the preciousplastic logo on it!! But I can't find the new one with the yellow around it can you gus help please?? Thnaks!!!

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@Tiago-recycle lab. Portugal https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/yourlogo

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@lechatblanc Thanaks!!! just got in to a new world ahhaah

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ohhh it says that we cant use the official logo, but that doesn't inclued mentioning right?

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because we already have a logo of our own and we wanted to identify the precious plastic

Hello everyone. I have just joined, but have been following Precious Plastics for many years. 2 years ago I helped some teachers build a V2 shredder. I run a community machine shop, and am currently restoring a Rabit Injection Moulding machine. I'm looking forward to being part of the community and making a positive difference.

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Welcome @Sunshine Coast Maker Space ! Super glad to have you.

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@MamaQuchaPerú Re: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605683727770583050/673248085421326336 The question is coming up a lot from coastal regions. Research is ongoing. Take a look at the ocean plastic research on https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/ EDIT: Okay, I'm a bit behind on the chat. @Seaside Reclaimed @Deleted User let us know what you find. (edited)

@Kat I want a KatBot for my personal server. Where can I get one?

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@Frederik C (ZA) yeah noticed that too, nice cameo ;)

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China, Dave? Now? Check the news feeds...

Well, I'd be more concerned with Russia

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Without Putin anyone down? I'm in a BRICS country. I have no choice in being concerned about our "comrades."

Aawww.... the World is so fun and uncomplicated... as long as you know nothing...

@t.rex ophora South West New Hampshire.

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Right on I’m in south west Vt but work in south central Vermont at Stratton mt. I bet we aren’t to far apart most days.

Hehe @Frederik C (ZA) all the best with finding another katbot - they are quite rare on the market I heard

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@Frederik C (ZA) what was the mention of China a reference to?

My understanding from Monthly News #36 is that Dave is riding the Orient Express, and stopping in China. Maybe get off the train a little early?

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Sustainable travel is a great topic, though. We need more of that. Maybe... build plastic boats and learn how to sail? Otherwise, I would say solar powered airplanes. But currently, those can only carry one or two people. And I'll never get a pilot's licence (for medical reasons.) So, boats it is! I think. (edited)

Ohhh I missed the monthly news episode. That must be what you got that screengrab for?

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@Nick - PP France thank you so much!

Anyone have experience injecting clear polypropylene, keeping it relatively clear in the process?

@a ♹'r I think PP cannot be 100% transparent, did it often, stayed translucent but not really clear (never was in the first place, always seems a bit blurry)

hello guys, i have got an important question! i have got a single phase induction motor, 120w and 1380rpm. I need about 5rpm and about the last power(~120w). how can i do it? maybe use planetary gear?(i have not got any engine, and frequency regulator not available too)

Which machine are you gonna build? 120W is pretty low? Or do you mean 120V?

@RichelieuGVG 120W is not enough for pp machines

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@RichelieuGVG answering your question, such reduction of 276:1 realistically is achievable by planetary reductors only. Or a gearbox full of gears, but that'd weird (edited)

i know, that 120w is really low, but there is no any way

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220 v

Which machine? No way to get a bigger motor?

yes

For shredder you need at least triple that, and even that wouldn't be standard pp model but optimized one with planner blades

and if i make even less turnover? will help?

@RichelieuGVG not really, torque depends on both RPM and power: Torque (N.m) = 9.5488 x Power (kW) / Speed (RPM)

hmm, what a strange formula? i have used power(w)=0,1047 * speed(rpm) * torque(N*m) (edited)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque#Machine_torque But both formulas are correct. Both already calculated the 2xPi and the 1/60 (rpm-->1/s) (edited)

Torque

Torque, moment, moment of force, rotational force or "turning effect" is the rotational equivalent of linear force. The concept originated with the studies by Archimedes of the usage of levers. Just as a linear force is a push or a pull, a torque can be thought of as a twist ...

@RichelieuGVG it's the same formula

I'm seeing PP machine parts everywhere I look. Extruder volume is bigger than yours.

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Does anybody has a laser cutting list for the shredder?, I having difficulties in understanding the 23 x 13 blades SHRPRO-V1 1130.00-A Shaft 2 assembly.pdf. I am trying to send a qty list to the laser cutting company

Hello from northern Scotland. We have a workshop with compressor, press and extruder. We specifically look into ways of recycling marine plastics and generate enough income to pay for clean ups and research/outreach. New to discord... lost many private messages, not too sure why

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Hello everyone ! Happy to be part of the PP community !

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Hi from south Africa just registered a our business, starting to cast plastic paving bricks on Monday (E. S. M)

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hi all! where would i hcat with someone about the logo design process with figma?

Hey people, I am considering fabricating plates (2 types) like this using recycled plastic, which could potentially be used to assemble structures like a puzzle. However as they are quite large I was wondering if you have any tips on what process would be best to fabricate this. I am doubting between using a modified sheet press or maybe some kind of injection moulding? I am looking forward to your answers and thanks in advance

(the measurements are in mm) (edited)

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@DesignerSpaceNerd you’re gonna wanna use a sheet press to manufacture 4x8s of plastic to a thickness that works. Then employ a laser cutter for the shapes.

@GarrettCadou My train of thought as well

but maybe I am missing something as I am not that familiar with plastic fabrication processes. Thanks!

@DesignerSpaceNerd There's a work-in-progress sheetpress interlocking system. Might get you to 1.6 m. I'm all for modular structures

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694/672791802407026711 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598887270636060694/672791802050379786/pers.jpg (edited)

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@zmef : the logo design process with figma? Try asking in #deleted-channel . (edited)

yeah, we've got a actually quite a few requests to make a sheetpress producing those big sheets : 1.20 x 2.40 meter, seems kinda standard size. There is a big problem with the needed power, with the current design it's 100 x 300 Watt cartridge heaters, at 400V ... here would even need special permission to draw this kinda power. I am puzzled how to fix this

I can think of several reasons why people would want up to 1.8 m sheets for furniture building. But for "huge" sheets, maybe the simplest answer is to make it more modular, by splitting everything larger into two or more pieces. And what are the heat welding options for making really big stuff?

yeah, no idea - they say 2.40 m is the standard

Maybe make the concept more like a pasta maker / extruder. Once your first sheet has cooled, you slide it left / right, with just a few cm of the sheet left inside the press and make the next section, which automatically gets heat-fused to the first section.

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they say 2.40 m is the standard Probably comes from lumber standards.

yeah, that are not really DIY, hobbyist guys asking for this sizes

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may be they change their minds if they see the energy bill, lol. i can't fire this even up for testing

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@Frederik C (ZA) I think using this with heated rolls could be feasible https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7EojJi8gY6c

PATHAK - THE MACHINERY PEOPLE

Manual Sheet Rolling Machine

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we tried that: too much trouble with feeding and re-rolling it (edited)

@Deleted User ok, I see

but yeah, on big, it's done like this

Also, the compression part is lacking to give the strength that you need for sheets and beams.

Have a look at this? might help.

https://youtu.be/Lgew-7r-1Ds

Alice guo

HDPE SHEET UHMWPE SHEET molding process

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https://youtu.be/v9fmVkgeGQA best one i have seen so far.

mexhealthcare

Madera Plastica Fabricacion de Tableros de Madera Plastica

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Hello from Greece

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When companies ship polystyrene, what do they pack it in?

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@steve .down south inc. It's interesting to see industrial scale machines. But they score 0 for video-making.

Jip.But still some of the concepts might work on DIY scale.I find if very interesting because thise guys probably run 24/7 and they normaly dont fiddle around with stuff that does not work.So you borrow ideas. The press "impressed" I wonder what their production rate might be?

Masive !

Does anyone know how to get the fabric patches that denote workspaces?

Not sure about fabric patches. Is that something Americans are doing?

Maybe you mean designing a logo for your workspace?: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/branding

How about we use the "inbox" reaction (

) when people are answered by DM? So that there aren't redundant answers. A #⃣

can help with redundant questions.

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I was thinking the generalized ones shown on the site and in videos but that link is good. I was mostly trying to find out if there were any in production. (edited)

@Plastikourgeio your logo is awesome

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Buenas tardes, acabo de recibir los cortes para la trituradora, no estoy encontrando las especificación del eje! Podrían orientarme?

@John Thank you I am happy you like it. it is not a logo, we always had in mind to contribute to the cause of PP financially. Since we participate in many demonstrations events with a shreddal (pedal powered shredder) and a desktop version of the injection. We thought we could sell hoodies and t-shirts with Greek motives and the benefits from the sells put it towards the PP army.

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Hi guys! I'm new. Fell in love with PP from the first video and I'm now helping to setup a community here in Lithuania. One of the questions is the business side. Has anybody have any links/material/experience/numbers/anything to share about how much this can be profitable? Is it possible/easy to break even? Any example or real world cases would be awesome! I believe we got sorting, item design, machines and ideology covered at least on some level, but the business side is struggling - any help would be very much appreciated!

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Would be interested in that as well

this is... overwhelming to say the least

sitting on the train from moskau to china, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S43IwBF0uM

ChemicalBrothersVEVO

The Chemical Brothers - Star Guitar (Official Music Video)

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@Plastikourgeio Can you post some more about your pedal-powered shredder in #deleted-channel? I'm interested to see what you did.

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hey, i notice that for the simple shredder it is not saying it accepts PET

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would i need the pro shredder to work with PET?

[@]Workspace [@]Machine shop

The hammer is pulled back and there's a double group ping in the chamber. Don't make me use it.

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sorry frederikc

No, it's not you. It's the weekend...⏳

I meant I'm going to ping a lot of people if they don't answer soon.

https://www.facebook.com/205344452828349/posts/3731230093573083/

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Hello guys, how can we create a new category on the left side ? I would like to create the Cyprus Channel as it is not existing yet and we would like to create the first community there

Thanks !

@Sargasso Ask in #archived-machines after the weekend and/or ping [@]Workspace [@]Machine shop to wake them up

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@Samoth Ask in #deleted-channel after the weekend and/or ping [@]

v4-team to add Cyprus.

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@Oak (Myanmar) Rather post weblinks wrapped in triangle brackets (< >) or .TXT or .PDF files. Messages over 2000 characters are automatically posted as .TXT attachments.

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@Deleted User re sheet press issue to get less power usage you you need to route out a channel in the aluminium slabs in a snake like fashion and make custom element to fit in channel. I have been working with a guy since mark bacharach started this whole journey and he has come to the conclusion this would be the only way. Not sure if he's 100 % correct but the idea is sound.

@protohub : yeah, was wondering about such thing too. quite an adventure to mill/cut plates that big, 1.30m; (edited)

@Deleted User @protohub I like that idea, in aluminium I think it could be done quite easily by hand with a router (normally for wood) with a guide rail or template/jig, several passes obviously.

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Sustainable travel is a great topic […] , Maybe... build plastic boats and learn how to sail? University of Maine 3D-printed boat (bio-based thermoplastic) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W0hWdP7MyA

Tech World

A Giant 3D Printer Spits out an Entire Boat

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@Frederik C (ZA) , hence the project ´Noah´ - a project initiated by @Timberstar and @Deleted User : https://github.com/plastic-hub/noah/blob/master/machines/Noah.md, with raising sea levels not a bad idea though - especially for the more impacted south - regions first to go on this very last planet - anyone else : see the community efforts on the dedicated Discord Galaxy server (the exile for too ambitious PPers :-)) : https://discord.gg/eACJtYZ | thanks btw. to everybody who joined already - it´s slow progress but I am sure we come up with something sometime. (edited)

@Timberstar : you´re sure about hand router cutting those channels ? i wouldn´t try at all -

Hello from Belgium

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I am new with all this things so for now I am stalking ( learning)

@Deleted User Not 'sure' sure, but I'd give it a try with a decent carbide tip, not too small... A premade guide jig with the snake shape cut into it would make it pretty safe, lots of passes... How wide would the groove need to be? I'd guess about 6mm would be the sweet spot for the cutter.

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Using a guide bushing on the router bed too.. there's not much which could go wrong

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The difficult question is where to get a piece of aluminium that big!

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But if the groove idea works, there could be another groove for for a coolant pipe so it can also cool the bed quickly

right, let me try when those plates are here, Alu5038, no precision surface as the v4 BOM has (for 2 sides) since it´s going to be covered by stainless sheets anyways ... but for 150E just - was wondering the make those channels on blocks just - much easier, could be done on a manual mill as well - we also skip the mount blocks holes btw. and TIG weld them just on the back. what should be the clearance of the heat wire to the alu block then ? i love the cooling idea

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This guy is doing 0.2mm passes no problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ7caI0F12A

RipDog Tools

Routing Aluminum Plate

0.2 mm ? right, let me move the comma on the end price

anyways, that´s cool - I hope we hire hulk to speed this up a little, lol

I think small depth of cut but high feedrate is best with aluminium

yo! evtl. this might be faster to cast the channels as ready to go blocks - there are enough cans around - we make sure of it

.... sunday joking mood

beer seen on discord, a half but upgraded sheet press confirmed

I've been looking into casting stuff too and half- built a forge, but the amount of metal needed for these things would be a lot to melt in one go

nearby window makers have sh-- loads of it, cutoffs and huge loads of saw chips, i have been picking this on a weekly base, 20kg each walk, melts just perfectly and fast, also milling it was quite alright (edited)

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anyways, what should the heatwire to aluminum clearance be ?

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jackpot

I would make a guide like this in MDF

double jackpot, but no beer

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channel is about 13m so at 40mm/s feedrate it's about 6min per pass - should take about an hour each? edit- i'd go about 0.5mm depth (edited)

anyways, what should the heatwire to aluminum clearance be ?

@Deleted User I was researching heat cartridges. This article might be helpful? https://cartridgeheaters.co.uk/correct-installation-of-cartridge-heaters/

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mh, cartridge heaters are made differently I thought, not sure it may bond at some point, time to get hands dirty, ordering the wire next week, and enough beer, just in case (edited)

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what about the type of element you find in a cooker? They can touch the metal https://www.buckham.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/dalton-difftherm-diffusion-pump-heater-1024x768.jpg

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Hey everyone... My name is Aquila and I'm from Cameroon. My country is very rich in the availability of waste plastic bottles and we have almost no recycling firm for them. I came across Precious plastic on youtube while trying to find some ideas on home based plastic bottle recycling in order to start up a business in the industry. Currently I wanna know if there's a course I can take online with precious plastic on their different production ideas, workspace setup and also I would love to know if I could order the machines and manual from precious plastic. Thanks.

@Aquila Richman Take some time to familiarize yourself with everything on https://community.preciousplastic.com/ .

what about the type of element you find in a cooker? They can touch the metal https://www.buckham.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/dalton-difftherm-diffusion-pump-heater-1024x768.jpg

@Timberstar yes, exactly. The heating element in an oven looks like it's just chucked in. There's no apparent precision.

@Timberstar The picture is exactly what he had given me. Nice Workl!!

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@Deleted User @Timberstar have a look at this https://www.heating-element-alloy.com/ (edited)

Heating Element Alloys

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So those are 'Calrod' style I guess, the wire is inside some insulating stuff inside the metal covering. So they can touch metal. Maybe use a number of straight ones? Easier to cut straight groves all the way across, terminals at each end

hey guys, that´s of great help ! so what should I order for a Sheetpress v4 ? I would make a little prove of concept, we can CNC mill the channels, no problem

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@Deleted User I think you should be buying these https://www.process-controls.com/hcs/tubular_heaters.html

Tubular Heaters: Tubular Heating Elements

Tubular heaters and tubular heating elements available at Heaters Controls and Sensors.

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this is just a bit extra reading https://www.heating-elements.com/

Heating Element Manufacturers | Heating Element Suppliers

Quickly find the top heating element suppliers and manufacturers in the United States who offer reliable and cost effective rugged designs that are energy

@Timberstar @Timberstar

@krisna hi

Hi too

Discord needs this "I'm losing it" face. Some days, nothing else works. (edited)

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@protohub : thanks a million, started digging on ebay, seems promising. there are replacement parts for Bosch/Siemens kitchen stuff, for cheap, 20E @ 1300Watt, covering an area of 40x40 cm

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#obligatory-monday-tackle-fun : we had the topic of metal printing molds recently in #3dprint and pretty much most of the prior work pointed to using a MIG welder, so I tried ... , seems definitely possible, will hook this up on a 5axis arm, fun stuff

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the alien head and bionic arm gun was on purpose, of course

For surface finishing into moulds (which was the main idea), most of us will be limited to aluminium, I suppose. But I was also trying to think of a "quick" / "low tech" way to make branding coins. (Or rather, moulds for casting branding coins in aluminum or copper.) We're basically exploring ideas for "the poor person's metal 3D-printing"

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Hello guys, just a new member about to start recycling!

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Hi guys. I’m new member. I collect carton milk box (100 tons/mon). How does recycle milk box ? Thanks

Any one with advise please, casting of plastic paving bricks was a breeze, but I need some color what do you recommend.?

@Johan What combination of plastics do you use for the mixture?

Mostly bags some polistireen cooking oil and sand

maybe oxides used for concrete colouring @Johan ?

Thanks I'll tri

Hey all, so this is somewhat off topic but I went to one of my local parks yesterday and cleaned up approx 3 grocery bags of litter. Almost 1 full bag was able to be put into a recycling bin. I noticed two things about the stuff I collected:

1) There was a lot of styrofoam, and it was mostly difficult to clean up because it was in small coin-sized pieces. Is there a process within the PP universe where people can reuse it?
2) I found a small plastic disc, about the size of a US Quarter, that says "Eco Token". I have no idea where this would have come from, but I have kept it for now because it felt like I was getting paid by nature for cleaning up 😁 so if anyone has any info on that, I would like to know as well

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Search for EPS and polystyrene in the discord or online for styrofoam processing. I saw someone discussing it in the discord recently.

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Is the token 29mm?

I dont have it with me at the moment but it sounds about right. Its green, if that helps with anything.

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Yep, looks right

https://www.touco.co.uk/shop-stock-menu

Shop Stock Menu | Touco Tokens

Touco Offers a Small Range of Stock Tokens & Wristbands for Your Event. Contact Us Directly to Discuss Personalised Custom Tokens & Wristbands for your Event

Both sides look the same

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Nice find!

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Guess there are 499 more to find

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Nice work with the trash pickup. I'm still waiting to hear back from my city on whether or not I need a permit to do it on city land. I walk past about two 55 gallon bags every day heading to work.

I'd find it difficult to believe that someone would yell at you for picking up trash. Maybe wear a vest if its by a busy roadway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Theres a spot by the park that has more trash down by the water line of a river. I'll try to get at it when it warms up again, but I may be "advised" to avoid certain parts because it flows to the top of a small dam

Yelling isn't the issue, it's the possible fines or arrest I'm worried about.

"In the Land Of The Free..."

Hi everyone. I'm new to this, so please be gentle with me. My company is working in Uganda where we install new electricity mini-grids in some of the most remote, off-grid rural communities. At each community we hope to establish new electrically-powered enterprises that can create jobs. Uganda has a plastics waste problem, of course, and there is also a need to improve the way that fruit and vegetables are transported from farm to market. I would love to hear from anyone who can create a foldable plastic crate (e.g. like this one https://www.foldable-crate.com/collapsible-crate.html ) from recycled plastics. It's a problem that needs a solution. thanks guys.

Collapsible Crates C Series|Plastic Collapsible Crate-SHG

with the advantages of save transportation cost, easy installation and easy to handle, SINO SHG folding crates are widely used in industry, agriculture, fisheries, animal husbandry and aquaculture.

They're injection molded HDPE or PP, and at 2-6kg they're roughly within the range of what precious plastic machines can handle, especially because it looks like they're made of 3-9 parts, depending on the model. Manufacturing the injection molds will be the biggest hurdle if you want to retain similar appearance and performance. However, if market conformity isn't a big issue (such as for local markets as opposed to export), a simplified, slightly heavier design would be feasible. Keep in mind how you're planning to use them. The crates you posted are designed to be loaded into semi trailers and box trucks, but if a different mode is used in your market (pickup trucks/utility vehicles, motorcycles, flatbed trucks, etc) you can modify the design to fit the market better. To keep cost down you'd want to source material and manufacture them locally, but I'm sure you could find people interested in helping you set up collection, shredding, and injection molding facilities. You can start by becoming familiar with how HDPE and PP are marked in your region. If you can find a local engineer to help design the final product, sourcing the molds will be much easier.

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There might be some food-contact issues. Also, do they necessarily have to recycled plastic? Because, depending on the size you need, they are available off-the-shelf in South Africa. Some people use them instead of shopping baskets, in supermarkets. But I've looked at some brands. Really bad quality. They break easily. The main problem with moulding is making the hinges. Unless we can make strong enough bendable segments. Like with the carabiners (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-a-carabiner-cnc-vs-lasercut.) (edited)

BTW #archived-beyond-plastic is about finding future alternatives to petroleum-based plastic. There is dedicated Tetra Pak recycling in some places. My municipality accepts Tetra Pak as part of the municipal collecting program.

@MartynCowsill

My company is working in Uganda where we install new electricity mini-grids in some of the most remote, off-grid rural communities.

I'm very interested in that. Do you have some weblinks about it for us?

Is the foldable/collapsable aspect entirely necessary? If not then you could have them designed to be slightly larger at the opening so they stack together when empty to save space

http://www.designboom.com/contest/slideshow.php?contest_pk=28&item_pk=34096&p=1&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=920&width=1035

power plant | designboom.com

Power Plant 1 Power Plant 2 Power Plant 3

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Hi something on wind power.for frederick

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Guys, I have a business related question - do you sell your products, how do you distribute/promote them, what sells wells in your experience and has anybody actually manage to take off and have a sustainable business with PP machines and the whole model? I'm based in Lithuania and we're working on starting a community here and would be good to know such things. Thank you!

I would suggest starting a topic on https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/ that you can keep pointing people to and where examples can be posted. It's difficult to tag stuff according to subject on Discord, at the moment. Tags would have to be standardized, somehow.

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Otherwise, I just repeat what I said a week ago: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/599284910536130560/674960263031554048

Another dose of reality. For the part on EPS, start watching at 12m50s SoCal Connected: Life in Plastic - California's Recycling Woes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=relu0XW4760 (edited)

KCETSoCalConnected

S10 E1: Life in Plastic - California's Recycling Woes

I'm trying to find people in #tasmania #auaustralia who are interested in developing a plastic recycling business "eco-system" using the precious plastic resources. The cost of transporting over Bass Strait creates an incentive to recycle plastics and value add into new products right here in Tasmania. Australia is in the process of banning the export of all recyclables by 2022 so this will change the economics of the industry completely. I can see opportunity!

Just got this in the mail yesterday, thanks Precious Plastics team! Now how to frame it

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@Frederik C (ZA) , that´s just another horror show - makes me wonder that creating anit-scam squads might be more effective after all. the docu reminds me alot of https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9071322/ (must watch, among a few other thousand must watchs ) (edited)

Dark Waters (2019) - IMDb

Directed by Todd Haynes. With Mark Ruffalo, Anne Hathaway, Tim Robbins, Bill Pullman. A corporate defense attorney takes on an environmental lawsuit against a chemical company that exposes a lengthy history of pollution.

Yeah, the DuPont Teflon cover-up. It's amazing how many such stories there are.

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] : Does anyone know how to get the fabric patches that denote workspaces? Oh, okay. Looks like there are "secret" patches that you can get, somehow. (Ritual blood sacrifice, I'm guessing.

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They do exist :o

Hi everyone.

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@Frederik C (ZA) they will be available on the new Bazar

they will be available on the new Bazar So, no ritual blood sacrifice? Booorrriiinngg!!!

Some kind of weapon-based duel, at least. C'mon!

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PP v6 shredder, needs a hand drill & stickwelder just (edited)

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kidding, that's a 4 ton shredder (120Kw motor not mounted), made by friends for the municipal recycling of Barcelona, took them 4 months, around 4 people full-time (edited)

@Deleted User 4 Months from designing to final building or just the building ?

just building, mostly from drawings and 3-4 cm stock; the inside is amazing, will try to get some footage when they did set it up

Wow nice! Incredible nonetheless :)

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yeah, they did the parts mostly from scratch, lots of plasma, milling and insane big weldings

So I want to ask for a bit of feedback on a site I've created. A couple of people have seen it already, and it's only peripherally related to Precious Plastics. It's a Recycling Wiki; https://recyclopaedia.org.au/ Anyway, please let me know what you think of this as a platform / idea.

nice long vid of a guy who has customized a small commercially made injection machine and is making his own moulds, inspiring... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckWi-rOxPzo

Spyker Workshop

Injection Molding - How It's Made & How It Works - Spyker Workshop

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a close enough look at it to be able to copy maybe?

@Timberstar : watched it few times as his older videos,

I am afraid that copying it might get more expensive than just buying it. We could bother him to try v3 shredder flakes

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@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) : nice work !! with that there are now quite a few different places/platforms :

old forum (kinda html) , currently ported to markdown
new forum (markdown/html and soon the new PP wiki format (using webcomponents inside markdown) ), our final destination for lots of things, incl. the old forum but also project files collected from github
PP academy (github, markdown)
PP open source projects/machines (markdown), mirrored also into the new forum, enabling feedback outside of github
onearmy (plaintext)
the french group is also on a wiki, not sure which format but I guess it's wiki like markup
not directly related but the new bazar also takes HTML and thus subject to markdown output, tools to generate product descriptions from markdown content and templates is done to enable exchange there is 'pandoc' : https://pandoc.org/ My idea about doing a new wiki language is to filter out content per user skill level but also blend in local based data as dynamic amazon searches,... basically sort of 'smart content'

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btw. content & structural templates are basically on their way : Project, Howto (Steps), Manual, Machine(sort of project), Product, Vendor, Component, Drawing, Rendering, CAD, Firmware Addon; Source, there are possibly another dozen I didn't think of yet (ie: Plastic type, wiki post, random user submission, place, ...) - in March til June or so , at least that's what I hope

Hi everyone! I'm looking at this shredder on facebook and would love any help evaluating if it would be a good fit for a shredder workspace. Here's a link I hope works for you: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2494728674108869/

Opens recyclopedia
Gets EPS as recommended article
Recently asked about EPS in chat
Hmmm... 🤔

I like the idea :)

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@MAALK It looks like a high speed shredder, bear in mind it will be very noisy and probably require 3 phase power. The PP shredder is low speed so much quieter. If you have a place which can accommodate a shredder like that you can shred a lot of plastic.

@Timberstar thanks for the feedback! I hadn’t thought about the noise. The price is just so much lower than a Precious Plastic shredder or anything else I can find near me.

@MAALK Also think if you can deal with that amount of plastic, can you use that much to make things or will you try to sell it as flakes?

@Timberstar maybe I’m approaching this wrong but because of the lack of recycled plastic stock material (sheet, blocks, and or rounds for use on a cnc) near me in Wisconsin, USA, I’m looking to make my own. I know there’s plenty of plastic being wasted near me and I’d rather use that than the wood I typically use to make my products

nice! yes you will need larger volumes then

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] : Does anyone know how to get the fabric patches that denote workspaces? Oh, okay. Looks like there are "secret" patches that you can get, somehow. (Ritual blood sacrifice, I'm guessing.

) https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/677709584076505118 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/605686860324536320/677709583468462110/20200213_180647.jpg

@Frederik C (ZA) They sent us an email way back in December before the V4 Launch since we signed up early and created an account.

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] I might've been part of that discussion. Did you check the article? Was there anything I missed?

4:19 AM

@Deleted User I definitely like this idea of having a universal markdown language. I don't think that should be too difficult to implement on Recyclopaedia either. Have you explored how MediaWiki does templates and the like?

Highkey still not sure of the process, still in the "what can I do to help" phase

Re: my Wiki. Have you got any suggestions how I could encourage people to edit it?

@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) : let me have a look later on next week, shouldn´t be too hard. To motivate folks to write articles seems rather hard, even the v4 how-to section didn´t pick up much steam. I suggest to present your wiki rather in the old forum since there is a kinda different crowd as well. Promoting a project on Discord feels like placing an Ad on a 5000 channel TV station network

However, I will place it in the the "awesome PP projects" list, it´s all I can do for now (edited)

Yeah; I sort of put it here, because you and I discussed it previously here. I'll slowly try to present it in a few different places to see how much attention it gethers.

7:10 AM

I look forward to hearing what you have to say about it.

it might be easier and more appealing to switch to a Markdown files only approach. That´s the trend at least since the last 10 years. Creating content in 'special' or database driven systems comes often with a penalty. However, if you switch to this, there are thousands of tools to generate a pretty and mobile friendly website around those markdown files. A few examples :

http://daux.io/Getting_Started.html#page_Demos (creates docs around Markdown folders/files)
well, github, also has a system which creates a Wiki and/or static site around your files (for example https://github.com/Netflix/Hystrix/wiki)
PP Academy is created also this way, but uses another site generator (https://docusaurus.io/)
same for us, we base lots of infrastructure on this approach, i got tired of wordpress and the like just saying, getting used to Github & Markdown takes a while but worth every second of it

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Getting Started - DAUX.IO

The Easiest Way To Document Your Project

What is a Markdown files only approach?

10:17 AM

Is that where there's a file for each page, rather than content held in a database?

yeah, basically that's exactly it. after that , another tool picks then those files and creates a pretty page, have a look at https://github.com/ONEARMY/academy/tree/master/docs and here the output : https://onearmy.github.io/academy/intro.html ; there are plenty of those, 'daux.io' is great for a start

@Deleted User I have a reasonable idea of how a Community Point can use Jekyll to blog on GitHub. Is there a way to manage an e-mail mailing list through GitHub? Because having push messages for new content is important, for keeping people engaged. And, more importantly, organizing meet-ups, independently of any social media brand. And we can't realistically expect everyone to have a GitHub account.

@Frederik C (ZA) yeah, let me check this out next week; getting around github isn't exactly easy but possible ; there are a number of tools which enable this ... @Mortar Art (Melb, AU) there is a video next week from us on how use all this stuff; @protohub and a few others are also interested to dive in.

11:00 AM

@Frederik C (ZA) if you could add a few more details, ... not entirely sure I understood your idea or what the workflow is

This was my previous question about it: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/656539223976968194/670423517514432515 The old Dave Hakkens forum does have e-mail push messages available for all message threads. But I think people are reluctant to subscribe, because they don't want to be bombarded with "chit chat" e-mails all the time. I basically want the same thing as the old forum, but reserved only for important announcements (about public meetings and such) and maybe a once-a-month newsletter, at most. (edited)

mh, i see; actually I was wondering about the same, how to create the ultimate newsfeed for PP (machine, project updates,, hot/trending topics). Unfortunately the web is about to kill RSS and pretty much all the cool tools around it. Yahoo had a tool to compose those feeds.... anyways, let me check - there should be something easy. so we have 2 documents ?

> subscribers

-> the feed to be emailed (might be hand written , in top of the usual updates)

I think so, yes. Double opt-in to confirm e-mail addresses is also important. If trolls can subscribe people against their will, it is potentially disastrous. (So the subscription should also be protected with a Captcha, to stop bots.) (edited)

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That's just one of several reactions that are not cross-platform compatible. I can't see what it is. (Could be

without me knowing.

) That was one of the first things I notices on Discord. You'd think standardizing emojies would not be such a mission.

(edited)

right, mh, however seems an easy thing via the zapier framework which interconnects lots of services & apps. I could make this as part of the new forum where you can signin with anything. also, there users can add content to the feed, eg: monthly news (was planned anyways) otherwise, there are probably a million apps around mailchimp (if that is still the thing) will check this out next week (edited)

11:54 AM

https://zapier.com/apps/discourse/integrations

11:56 AM

or you need this local based ?

11:56 AM

for specific groups ?

or you need this local based ? I don't care much where it's hosted, if that's what you mean. As long as the hosting system is robust and likely to stick around. And it should be open to everyone. That's why I prefer e-mail, for that type of thing. It might be a bit "old school," but still the most universal messaging system. Especially in my demographics. (edited)

right, ok, I could imagine to aggregate geo/local based newsfeeds in top of the global feed, basically around the old and new map data

Oh, no... no geo-location necessary at all.

too late

, same for scraping instagram (there is tons of great profiles which could fill up pages)

As I've said before, as a "pre-Millenial" I actually remember a World before the internet. So, I never really got into social media much, and I use it as little as possible. The "old folks" like me (37

) are still waiting for this social media "fad" to blow over.

well, it's more about spreading projects/builds,... a simple picture can change a lot

12:36 PM

I have around 10 - 20 wow moments the month on instagram alone. kinda tired to point forum users to there

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Interesting. When I see an Instagram link, I groan a little. And the "by Facebook" tag doesn't help one bit.

yeah, honestly those instagram 'stories' can be quite .... the 10-20 wow moments are actually burried under thousands of posts ... (edited)

The other day, a national radio station in SA actually had an hour-long call-in show on the topic "Is Facebook still useful?" I only listened to a few minutes, 'cause I already know the answer. (And local radio makes me want to puke.

)

well, there is tons of data, lets grab it, for good

1:01 PM

that's what an AI based image classification service returned

1:01 PM

maybe we could make the trash sorting robot more busy :-))))

An AI mislabeled an image. SHOCKER!!

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well, i tried again .. for anyone else : this is about curating a global PP newsfeed, from all sort of sources :-)

"bad ass device 50.10 %"

yeah, was cheating - it was 'device' before I added my sunday fun

To be fair to our future robot overlords, most humans couldn't tell you what that is either...

lol, btw, sunday, time to enjoy life now, ciau - updates about the story later

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@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) : https://stackedit.io/ has a great markdown editor, exports to many outputs as well | here a sample page from the academy : https://github.com/ONEARMY/academy/blob/master/docs/build/sheetpressbuild.md (edited)

Dear Precious Plastic members... I am interested to know if anyone has manufactured bricks or beans and use them in a construction... - Can you please share video with your creation ( construction ) ?

1:46 PM

Another thing regarding Plastics: It is OK to use plastic bars to construct... a workplace

It is something that will last? If is ok to built a barn with those bars or a shed...

1:47 PM

I want to build something like this with Precious plastic product: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujn9ms3waDw&t=55s

mlawson123

Building my garden office / workshop - in 7 minutes

It can be tricky, regarding local bylaws about structures for human habitation. The structural integrity is one issue. Getting legal certification for your city / region is a separate issue. Even if only you will use it, at your own risk, it might still need a permit. (edited)

2:04 PM

One has to factor in weather conditions. Strong wind, or UV degradation over time, for example. Depending on the plastic used, possible humidity as well. But highly compacted, plastic garden furnisher does handle most weather conditions well. High UV, humidity, temperature and wind. That's made from commercially produced plastic "lumber." (edited)

2:08 PM

In other words, there may be other chemical additives, not necessarily currently used by most PP workspaces.

ohh.. i see

2:09 PM

then what should we do with those plastic bars?

2:10 PM

some benches ... some dyi compost bins...

2:10 PM

maybe some flowers pots

2:11 PM

is suitable for those products ?

The beam extrusion, as I understand, was only "officially" released with V4, in January. So, some folks might have more experience in quality control and testing beams. But it's fairly new in PP. But I doubt there will be any significant regulations regarding most other products using beams. Not sure about furniture, though. The EU has rules about everything, it seems. And the US is Fascist Corporate Police State. So, I don't know. I'm in South Africa. Our laws are ambiguous / contradictory. But most of the population live in shacks. So, using plastic in construction is particularly relevant to me, because the market is huge. But I want to "dot the I's and cross the T's" to make sure it can work reliably, in the long run.

Also, there's experimental stuff, like this: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694/675152522952048641

@Frederik C (ZA)@cglont As someone mentioned recently on here, the beams might be really good for geodesic domes, so far i havent seen a really good mould for the 5-way and 6-way node connections but I can imagine these domes could be fully built and clad in recycled plastic. Triangular sheet press anyone? (edited)

5:06 PM

In fact triangular sheets would hold up as a geodesic dome without a frame if we stitched the edges together like a football

My thoughts exactly. Some of the prefab geodesic domes used as research shelters in the arctic regions, are claimed to be hurricane-proof. Put it on stilts, maybe you're sorted for "mild" flooding, too. (A constant problem in SA.)

Alternatively the rectangular sheets could be cut to shape for a trapezium dome: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Faa0MPN8d7CcvBq4sH2-vGs30D_wUtDoErseHylm_XyVzRpcVEHLcK6-b53yBGP77wnwO8zk_Q7jYZtn8iZSRS515yUmEA1BbyDwHRPB2w

5:11 PM

holes drilled and zip-tie together along the edges

5:17 PM

with a 1.2x1.2m press you could make quite a big trapezium dome, if the sheets were clear they would make good greenhouses... can clear PET be made into sheets?

I've only seen very hazy end-products. Like the glass-like tubes for the LED decorative lamp. (edited)

Thinking about how it woud go to buid one of these.. Actually would be extremely easy with sheets stitched together, you wouldn't even really need a design. Just taper the square sheets slightly for the bottom circle, which can be any number above about 12; then the next row starts with a base the same as the top of the first layer and a larger taper; depending on your taper the dome will be flatter or taller, but can be judged by eye on site rather than using a model. Would be really easy to do first time with no experience if you understand the method. Binding with string or wire would be easier and cheaper than zip ties.

Ultimately, the idea is for government and economic development to provide future, "permanent" housing for literally millions of people. But the long-term reality is this what's shown here. I'm talking about alternatives to this: (edited)

5:44 PM

There are places where that (

) literally stretches from one horizon to the other. And beyond it, are the "trash mountains" of the growing landfills.

As for providing sustainable food sources in a Globalized economy and nightmare climate change predictions.... that's a whole other story. But, hey.... everybody just enjoy your Netflix and computer games... nothing to see here... everything is fine... Santa Clause is coming...

mh, yeah the guy on the radio said The Revolution Will Be Televised (edited)

funky4fingers

Smoove - The Revolution Will Be Televised

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"Strangely" those pictures are not in the South Africa tourism brochures.

no, for sure not but there seems a little more hope than in the west, so it´s [ Revolution Will Not Be Televised ] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoXAwl9kw) for SA instead

spuddy83

Gil Scott-Heron - The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (Full Band V...

I think recycled plastic is not gonna solve a housing crisis and it's not a very safe building material, but what about sanitation? Large diameter extruded pipes for sewage could be good..

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Yeah... the Catch 22 is... providing sewage basically means that the government admits that the situation is permanent... and then there is no more carrot on a stick. There are a lot of layers to this onion.

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the best we can do is to share the knowledge of ways to take things into our own hands

6:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiGh6mIMVEs

magumei

The Cinematic Orchestra - Evolution

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I gave up on the ´how to fix the world´ train a while ago. Trying it can get you easily in trouble (health, poverty,...). Not sure though, the internet, open source movement, all the new things can safe us on time ... But I do still have hope for a revolution tomorrow, kicked off any time! Here in the EU it´s actually on good paths (extreme violence, corruption scandals, ... in spain, france, more to come); yet folks are still too ´safe´with good paychecks, shopping malls are insane full, it´s like boiling the fish slowly to his end. (edited)

@Deleted User btw i discovered that the injector in that guy's video is sold by RoboDigg for $8k https://m.robotdigg.com/product/657/Digg-Desktop-Injection-Molding-Machine#

Digg Desktop Injection Molding Machine - RobotDigg

DIGG precision desktop injection molding machine User Manual Digg Latest purchase video of Delrin Injection Molding The max mold platen size for the Digg Injection Molding Machine is 300x120x4mm, 30 g...

7:11 PM

i didnt realize

yeah, he also said it´s a good invest. i guess this has been optimized & tested for virgin plastics. for flakes/dust and mostly contaminated PP plastics we need something stronger, bigger. firmware is in progress, parts are here as well, I just would need 2-4 more mini me-s to finish all those projects

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7:17 PM

there is hope to try this on lydia v4, non the less

Bonjour je suis new sur la belle comunoter precious plastique

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7:19 PM

Jaimerai savoir sil y a du monde de quebec ici. Jaimerai partir enfin sur ce bo projet

@samuelrouillard : #deleted-channel

@Deleted User???

translate bot

Actually I don't see a Quebec section, only Canada..?

It's already a mission to get all "official" sovereign States on here. Getting disputed regions on as separate channels also, is a whole other story. Unless they are islands. That helps.

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7:32 PM

Another "onion" to selectively peel, depending on how much tears it produces.

https://www.kedel.co.uk/sheet-recycled-plastic.html

Plastic Sheet

Kedel Ltd specialise In producing products made exclusively from 100% recycled plastic. We have a creative inventory, with examples such as: Recycled Plastic Lumber, Garden Furniture, Outdoor Funiture, Compost tumblers and raised beds to name a few. It is our hope you will com...

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7:33 PM

this company is doing amazing stuff

7:36 PM

check out these monsters! https://www.kedel.co.uk/beams-and-sleepers/recycled-mixed-plastic-beams-sleepers-240-x-160.html

Recycled Mixed Plastic Beams | Sleepers 240 x 160mm

Tough, heavy duty profiles that will never rot, do not warp or crack and need no maintenance. There are no splinters for little fingers and they do not contain toxic preservatives normally used in wooden sleepers. Ideal for landscaping, play areas or casual seating. Will never...

@Timberstar you make me cry

building with these in 'log cabin' style would create a very sturdy permanent structure

yo, the prices seem quite alright and promising

yea! the basic sheets are around 50 bucks which is similar to plywood here these days

well, here it´s usually double price for the half of the quality

7:42 PM

one has to sneak in their shop to get more details

i like to see these kinds of products which use up a high volume of dirty plastic waste.. must be a huge machine though

yeah, in 3th country worlds those machines were around a cement mixer like big but apparently easy to make

7:46 PM

see you guys, wife is getting angry now at me.

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have a good evening

@sharma.sagar94 may know about those machines, those guys in India pull this often off as nobody is watching

I tried to add a bullwhip emoji, but it needs to be custom added to the server. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyone have the link to the French server, just in case? They'll probably get help in #deleted-channel . Aren't they supposed to be bilingual?

@Frederik C (ZA) : https://discord.gg/v2Z3sUn (did the invite already)

Invite to join a server

Cooperative in Cuba turns plastic waste into lumber

évènements-locaux

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You're not supposed be here.

Naughty.

i know, she´s doing tea

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Those beams are awesome! I really want to see larger beams (potentially structural). Think it's possible to coat a bail of plastic, in plastic to make a large rectangular building block??

I think the compression is important for structural strength. Makes it very heavy too. I know the outdoor furniture, first hand.

8:58 PM

For reference: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/668231880000274433

Hi, I'm 14 and looking to start recycling plastic as I have a passion for making things and the environment. A few of my friends are also interested and we are looking to start a recycling workspace. If we started a gofundme campaign, would any of you be willing to help us achieve our goals by donating. We already have access to tools like a mill and a lathe at our school so really only need funding for the construction of our machinery to start out

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9:23 PM

I was thinking, add a coat of plastic to something like this Type 2 milk jug bail. Blocks would be huge, but doing it seem tough. It would take mechanical assistance to move them. (edited)

9:26 PM

@evanh3103 Howdy from MT, USA. I'd be happy to donate a bit! Make sure to really get the word out and post a link of how to follow the campaign!

Probably a common question, but is there a general standard for PP injection mould inlets? Is the screw fitting still used or is a ball nose nozzle and spherical recess with pressure better?

Hello. I am from India. I want to start recycling plastic and build up a project for the rural people, to create sustainable employment and income for them. We are already in the process of identifying a low income community in a nearby village. I want to connect with more people from India who are into recycling. Any help or advice will really help us.

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Try the #🍚india channel.

@Timberstar Repost in #archived-machines. I'm guessing a lot of the builders mute this channel.

Also, the typical weekend slumber...

@TolietSlave There are some prefabricated, modular house designs that come in 1 m segments. But that's a whole different kind of market. There would probably be robotic 3D-printing involved at that scale. Or eco-bricks.

@Frederik C (ZA) Let's build a new greater pyramid! It'll last awhile anyways

I am thinking about maybe using clay packed or extruded on the outside of these industrial, inflatable tents. Basically using the tent as a skeleton structure. Not necessarily connected to using plastic waste. Unless plastic sleepers are used as foundation, maybe. (edited)

Hello every body !!

I'm from Cuba and new in the community of Precious Plastic

3:51 AM

i want to create a complete recycling project here in my country

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That's awesome to hear someone from Cuba wanting to do this. I actually saw a program about an established plastic lumber business a while ago.

4:37 AM

@Yosué Montes de Oca this is not the precise video that I saw, but it's about the same program I think; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62H6GvnmH9c

CGTN America

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4:42 AM

Can I ask what the availability of modern machinery is like for projects like this in Cuba? Can you access things like a laser cutter for steel, or 3D printers, or plasma cutters?

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@soumyaadhikary08 Hey, I'm from Mangalore in Karnataka, not full-time into recycling, but looking to get into it on similar lines as you. Let me know if i can help in any way: chinmaysrao@yahoo.com

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@Chinmay @soumyaadhikary08 Hello and welcome to Precious Plastic. I am a machine builder from India and you can contact me if you need any help.

@sharma.sagar94 Ok will do.

I just joined this community good to learn some of you are already in Ghana trying to get things done. I'm based in Accra getting started to set a small recycling business to produce furniture and building materials. I welcome all your support and experience sharing. #Keep Ghana Clean #Ghana Recycle @Winfred

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"Talking rubbish" in #deleted-channel. Very nice.

Would it be possible to make a channel for the Caribbean nations?

@Checolatte (NYC, New York) I've asked before. Suggestion rejected.

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@Checolatte (NYC, New York) It could be that there just isn't enough mass there yet. Even in the USA channel it is mostly crickets. But I think it would be good to have a place for those from there to stop by and leave messages for each other. It gives new people a place to find people more local to them. May be they will reconsider, I'm not sure why you would reject having a channel unless it is a money issue.

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I tried to find the conversation, but it was deleted. Basically, Dave said their were already too many channel categories. We already have a #deleted-channel channel. So, there was discussion about making the Caribbean distinct from Latin America. I was in favour of that, specifically because of Haiti. And the first Haitian member just showed up.

Of course, nothing stops people from creating their own servers. There are separate servers for Americans, French-speakers and Spanish-speakers.

Probably for Eastern European and Asian countries too. I haven't checked.

True, but there is something to be said about being a global community and having an easy place to find others

Agreed. But a free server is limited to 500 categories and text channels combined. So, although that's enough for all the World's countries, there are subregions that might want to differentiate themselves further. Like federated States. Or because of sovereignty disputes... or whatever. (edited)

Hi everyone what do you advise me about starting plastic waste recycling plant in Canada how hard is it like finding waste plastic and industrial machine cost and marketing for plastic pellets is thee enough demand out on the market

Hello

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10:01 PM

Anyone from UK

@Koper #deleted-channel

Hi Koper, I am from the UK too

Hello Peter and evan

I am from the UK too Or so he claims.

@Frederik C (ZA) I live in the UK, why do you think I don't?

London specifically

I'm just messing with you, kid. Don't worry. (edited)

lol

The context is that I expressed my concern about unsupervised minors on Discord, and warned him about people maybe not being what they seem. Therefore, judgement is needed about the information shared. Because anyone can claim anything. That's part of my little stupid joke.

@Frederik C (ZA) But everything is true on the internet. Lesson: Be skeptical about anything you see on the internet. It could be true, but it could just as well be false and catfishing type of situation.

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"Do you think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and lie?"

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] Yes. I've seen it first hand.

Hi Dazza here, I'm at my early stages of this venture. But wanting to learn how to recycle a plastic that is in sheer form, that is strong & preferable if it is at least 60-80mm thickness? Is this possible with UV resistant ? If anyone could or can advise me I would be grateful, your new friend Daza

7:29 AM

Sheet form with UV Resistant?

Sheet form should be easy with a press. But that thickness will likely have slow production rates.

7:31 AM

Then you have to also figure out the shrinkage and thus deformation

7:31 AM

Maybe over size and mill down to final dimensions

7:31 AM

UV resistance is just like they do in the plastics industry now, additives

What would be maximum size of sheets produced?

or you could try to coat a finished product, but it would be better if it was mixed throughout the plastic

7:32 AM

depends on your press

7:32 AM

The large V4 press is 1m by 1m

7:33 AM

but you could build bigger

Do these sound feasable

you could also try an extrusion process if you had a big enough extruder and you didn't need super wide sheets

7:34 AM

what size are you wanting to make?

Bigger the better for prouction

7:36 AM

How much would it cost approximately to build this extruder?

This is from Butte in the #archived-plastics channel: UV protection with either carbon black, milled charcoal, or titamium dioxied pigments. Iron oxide pigments work too

7:37 AM

Do you want to build or buy?

That sounds perfect as it is a dark coloured I am after.

7:38 AM

Well if shown I surpose I can build?

On the bazaar, there is a V4 Press for 3700 euros

7:39 AM

that should do 1m x 1m

How reliable would this be and could this produce quoted thicknesses?

I don't have one of those yet. But from the videos and documentation they should be pretty good, especially with a mold. Your biggest problem will be the thickness you are after. It will take long time to heat up and cool down

Is there a process where the thickness could be bonded & worked?

7:43 AM

So I could achieve my thicknesses

I'm not sure for an entire sheet. I know there are processes for welding seams ans stuff. But an entire sheet might be hard. You could do it in a large press, but might take hours to heat up and then would need to be moved to a second nonheated press for cooling so that you could get a second sheet in the oven.

7:47 AM

If you want to build one, the plans have a basic build of materials with costs for the netherlands that could give you an idea of cost

7:47 AM

bill of materials*

True sounds time consuming If I had 1mx1m sheet like you said is this possible to achieve thickness?

7:49 AM

What is maximum thickness that could be achieved

7:52 AM

Arson you are very helpful with your advice & really appreciate your time. I'm currently based in NZ & would like to help this cause with my idea, but need to be sure my concept is feasible!

there is another guy there

7:57 AM

@Frederik C (ZA) <--- this guy

7:57 AM

I think he is around christchurch

7:57 AM

or is doing a talk there or something

7:58 AM

or maybe he was just mentioning the stuff there

7:59 AM

@Dazza https://events.humanitix.co.nz/talking-rubbish

Talking Rubbish Workshop, Christchurch, 10th of May | Humanitix

Confused about what can go in your Council Organics bin? Confused about the current state of plastic recycling? Want to vent frustrations, meet like minded people and learn ways to reduce waste? Come to this workshop!! We will go through common household waste items and discu...

8:00 AM

That would be a good group to talk to if they are local or close by

Hey thx again Arson awesome

@frederikc (ZA) <--- this guy Umm... no...

The "(ZA)" country code is meant as a clue that I'm in South Africa. I just saw the announcement in #activity-bot . It's a great name.

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I realized that after I had said that. I was thinking that isn't NZ. It did have the Z. That was the reason for the last line... or maybe he was just mentioning the name... Talking Rubbish

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@Arson "Catfishing..."

Hi everyone, two friends and I are about to start a workspace in a school for underprivileged kids in Assam in Northeast India. We have created a fundraiser, so we can pay for the materials to build the machines. https://chuffed.org/project/practical-plastic-recycling-education-assam it would be really cool if you could check out the campaign and spread it around.

Hi group, I am living in Colombia and we want to setup a full workshop from the collection to the production process. We followed you early last year and have come back to try push it forward this year. So if anyone is from Colombia would be good to hook up and see if we can work together also

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Hi, has anyone started a precious plastic workshop or space?

@midi I am currently looking into starting one in Assam (see above message) but there is heaps of people here that are running successful and inspiring workshops.

UK plastic/water lobby group NSWA are spouting complete rubbish about the confusion caused by the term 'single use' plastic...

10:50 PM

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2020/02/17/It-s-not-helping-people-to-do-the-right-thing-with-their-plastic-bottles-NSWA-calls-for-single-use-term-to-be-scrapped

‘It’s not helping people to do the right thing with their plastic b...

Confusion over the term ‘single-use’ plastic bottle is harming recycling, says a group representing the likes of Nestle and Danone.

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10:52 PM

Sian Sutherland meanwhile talks sense.

What a surprise from 'a group which represents Nestle and Danone', two massive contributors to single-use plastic waste. Not to mention their monopolization of water sources. The CEO of Nestle believes that access to clean drinking water is not a basic human right. Truly some of the most evil people in the world of business.

11:05 PM

I guess they are anticipating that they might one day be held to account for the mess they've made, and want to be able to say "nah they were all recyclable, it was the consumer's fault".

Reuse: yes. Then only ever buy detergent in a cardboard box. https://www.idealhome.co.uk/news/household-waste-recycled-storage-box-ideas-243399

Tamara Kelly

Household item turned recycled storage box hailed genius on social ...

So simple but so effective, a life hack to love! One savvy shopper shares her ingenious recycled storage box, made by refusing plastic packaging

So why are their two sites and the .com doesn't link to the .org

9:14 AM

i feel like i have been cheated from all this other insider information

lol, we don't know either but we do know that 100 hundreds of people each day looking out for help, mods and more details on :https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/machines/ - we migrate this as well into a forum-ish library. (edited)

@Arson the .org is not official, it does look like it and it seems like a collaborative effort but is mainly @Deleted User solo initiative. @Deleted User I think you should make it clear that it's not related to official PP, at least here on Discord. It looks to me you're maintaining the confusion on purpose on your platforms and in your communication here, not sure why.

I think there is no need for adding such info for that , .ORG .COM speak obviously their own language

well, obviously they don't since at least one Discord member was confused

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make that two

10:40 AM

right, no problem - I thought the .ORG part makes it rather clear - ORG usually stands for non profit organisation

official PP is not a for profit organization, no matter what you think ^^ so this distinction makes no sense (edited)

how you´d call the site then ? i spoke 13 months ago with Dave about this directly, and there was no problem with that. it´s all about PP - I don´t mind it´s ORG or COM but we do care it behaves at least like a .ORG

what I'm saying is that it's confusing for people coming on board to see there's another forum on another domain. It would be better to mark it clearly as "non official" imo.

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I think the whole idea "PP Official" or "The REAL PP" makes no sense anyway and is just in the way, it´s primarily an open source initiative to recycle plastic - mostly driven and implemented by the community. PP Eindhoven releases plans from time to time and hosts some servers, but thats about it and this is also done by many others. (edited)

10:52 AM

so we stick to what Dave initiated in the beginning and it´s being advertised as such. it´s really confusing to do otherwise (edited)

10:53 AM

and btw. even those plans are often outdated a few weeks later already, ....

@lechatblanc "Nearly half (46%) of those questioned by the NSWA said they thought that the term 'single-use plastic' meant the item described had to go to landfill or for incineration." Exactly. Correct

@Deleted User I do think there is some sense in having a "PP Official" entity but I won't debate the philosophical aspects here. Again, the point I'm trying to make is that your communication is confusing, and this confusion can be dangerous. For example on your .org wiki homepage you're showing "3.1" machines. How are people supposed to know that's just your version of PP machines ? Granted they're marked "CE" but it's not clear to everyone it means "Community Edition" (also in this case "community" means just you).

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you mean our team as well joing forces from the community ? (there are actually 2 now), working out machine issues on daily base, for hundreds of users, collecting also all the good community feedback, mods and projects into a library....unbiased, unfiltered and correcting/sorting claims like filament, machine bills, weird specs, etc... (edited)

11:39 AM

As long PP Eindhoven doesn´t do exactly this, we do it forya (edited)

11:42 AM

pretty much all of the ORG thing and efforts is based on community and end user input. we just write it down and promote it

11:45 AM

and from what we hear on the phone from users each day - there´s way more confusion created on the official pages .. sorry mates, but we listen and act just (edited)

11:46 AM

@john, but hey, we do put a notice in place that the ORG part is a daily updated & community based effort & service for PP (edited)

11:49 AM

in particular : there is already lots of efforts going on to get over the new 400V exclusion/confusion, as well to add evidence/facts to the new ´start a business´ statement. there are folks taking loans and we spent a good chunk preventing that they dont ruin them self. (edited)

I think the point is that its not really clear to newbies .org is completely seperate from the original precious plastic. Maybe you shouldve gotten another domain name

. But your doing great work!

yeah, no worry - gonna add a notice., I was actually having a longer conversation with Dave about what the ORG part/department/site is good for : I remember we discussed the usual subjects, 1. making stats & analytics - presenting PP on a bigger parkette, subject to funding/grants/programs. as well 2. presenting frequent updates, projects, etc... Communicating this now as ´hey, have a look at the unofficial site, there are more machines and updates´ looks a little weird - that´s why we didn´t bother too much about. Anyways, point taken into account .

Hi Guys, new here, Setting up a workshop in north devon area in england, just started building the shredder

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yeah, no worry - gonna add a notice., I was actually having a longer conversation with Dave about what the ORG part/department/site is good for : I remember we discussed the usual subjects, 1. making stats & analytics - presenting PP on a bigger parkette, subject to funding/grants/programs. as well 2. presenting frequent updates, projects, etc... Communicating this now as ´hey, have a look at the unofficial site, there are more machines and updates´ looks a little weird - that´s why we didn´t bother too much about. Anyways, point taken into account .

@Deleted User Not really a discussion. You mainly disagree with many things we do. So instead of complaining to use we'd rather have you use your energy to do your thing in your way what you think is better. But I do agree it should not confuse other members, which I can imagine it does since you are very active here and post your url many times.

@Deleted User maybe do a PlasticHub.org instead of a confusing Precious-Plastic.org

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for that's quite a bit late - it was built after a discussion with Dave, 12 months ago. And the site isn't about PlasticHub - which is quite a different boat btw. We started .ORG because of too many folks having problems, it's basically the outcome of working with and for the community ...

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and don't worry, folks really appreciate the page - it's dead on subject

Hi everyone my name is Diego. So I’m doing my homework to start a mixed workspace in a couple of months. I’m in the process of trying to see if I can find laser cutting and assembly services here in my country. I’m from Panamá. Something that I have been investigating is what is the best way to clean plastic obtained from landfills and beach cleanups as there is massive volume in this respect in my country. Also been trying to contact a machinist in Colombia but I’m having a hard time getting a hold of them. If anybody knows of other people to purchase machines from in Latin America that would be great!

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@Nicolas Paries , yeah - just checked - too many links will break, and there is a lot of infrastructure/services/licenses locked on this domain/url as well (edited)

301 redirects are your friends

would takes us weeks of work ... so no, makes no sense, and there is zero benefit in there.

just wanted to drop in to say hi. Don't know much about you guys as i just got referred here from another discord channel

7:26 AM

I'm an avid fan of diy and recently started getting interested in 3d printers. Thinking about the waste material i started researching ways to upcycle failed prints/wasted filament and started looking into ways of making plastic sheets using a toaster oven/blender

7:29 AM

some of the methods listed on the site seem a bit daunting... what kind of investment are you usually looking at to build something like the sheet press?

7:36 AM

ah k, found the instructions for the sheet press here

7:37 AM

damn, 15kw

So wow, reading through the site this seems like an incredibly heavy investment to get involved

Depends on how good you are at scrounging I guess

well judging by the map, i have all of bc, alberta, saskatchewan and north west territories to collect from

@Jappetto There are the smaller machines as well. You can make a small compression oven setup much cheaper than the 1m x 1m sheet press

do you guys have marketing strategies to expand individual communities beyond the sphere of preciousplastics?

8:04 AM

just to give an idea of where i'm situated,

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edmonton alberta

@Jappetto I already operate well and truly outside the sphere of precious plastics. I haven't really followed any of the processes detailed by Dave and his team so far, but have customers, and work with a mix of materials.

8:46 AM

What I'd suggest is that it can be pretty hard to compete with mass manufacturing, but small batch manufacturing can be a little more forgiving. So, for example, if you also have an aluminium collection bin, alongside the plastics bins, you could forge small batches of parts in that material.

@Mortar Art (Melb, AU) do you do this as a side gig?

8:47 AM

i'd imagine tackling a production line from collection, processing, manufacturing can eat up quite a bit of time

I run 3D printing service bureau, as my part time job.

oh that's perfect

I also collect and sort recycling, and work on various strategies to deal with those materials, as I run out of storage space for them.

8:48 AM

It definitely does eat up a lot of time especially as you're learning and getting established.

8:48 AM

So working on it in achievable bits is definitely helpful.

the sheet processing really interests me right now because i have a cnc router at home to process sheet goods

Ohh awesome.

seems like a nice way to reprocess plastics to make a wide array of items

But with a CNC machine you could probably build tools for recycling other things.

8:50 AM

Can you cut steel plate?

no, aluminum is the best i'm set up for

8:51 AM

mostly work with wood

8:51 AM

though i work at a steel fabrication shop with plasma tables, cnc mills, cnc lathes, etc

8:51 AM

so it's not entirely outside of my scope

Ohhh sweet. So you can work with heaps of stuff.

i'm actually very close with the machine shop as i do the design and coding for the machines

8:52 AM

within reason... we build drilling rigs so a lot of the material is simply too large to handle by myself

What I'd suggest is if you're going to do a collection point for plastics ... that's a great start, but maybe also have collection for a few other things.

8:53 AM

See what you can do with each big.

where would one start with collections? local businesses?

Oh, I literally just collect the recycling from the apartment building I live at.

8:54 AM

5 apartments.

oh ic, did you make it known to the landlord/tenants?

Yup.

8:55 AM

The owner of the building lives in one of the apartments, and I just use the same place that recycling normally goes into, but instead of putting it out on the street for the local council, I sort it myself into additional bins.

ah neat

If you could find a body corporate near you that would be interested ... especially if they're in a convenient spot for you, you could do something similar.

8:56 AM

I'm imagining it's not very densely populated there though?

i wonder if i marketed/advertised the products i made using upcycled plastics i'd be able to convince businesses/others to set up a collections bin for me...

8:57 AM

i'm about 15 minutes outside the city but live in a satellite city with a decent population

Some businesses are keen on doing things that they can say make them more eco-friendly.

i was thinking it'd be neat to make a bin out of multi colored recycled plastics and just have a little blurb about where the plastics go if they drop it in the bin

I had an architect firm for example, ask if they can drop their food scraps at my compost bin via the sharewaste map.

right

8:59 AM

i have a friend from high school who's in the waste management business (owner) and talking to him he was telling me that a lot of companies are interested in the initiative

8:59 AM

especially if you pair it with some sort of tracking system

9:00 AM

some way to show them how much of their waste was being collected/converted/reused

9:01 AM

come to think of it he did say he was planning to expand into edmonton... would love to pick his brain about his collections on plastics/where it goes, etc

So, my 'recycling' project is kind of run peripheral to my business, and I can't really say that it's been profitable yet. But it might give you an idea for just how broadbased you might be able to make a collection system at local businesses. I do it, more or less, so I can be more informed, for running the site I document it on, which is still in it's early days, but it's a wiki for recycling; https://recyclopaedia.org.au/wiki/The_Avenue

The Avenue

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9:03 AM

And a part of the concept behind it is that collection and processing facilities can voluntarily document their activities on the site, for scrutiny.

9:03 AM

Though nobody has done it so far.

9:04 AM

From a marketing perspective, I think it could work.

curious but with the products you manufacture from recycled goods, do you ever get negative feedback about its use?

9:06 AM

general social stigma about recycled plastics seems to be that its dirty, unfit for applications like toys, etc

Most of my applications via my printing business are niche, small batch manufacturing. Less concern about that. More concern about cost.

9:07 AM

Having other materials on hand, which I can occasionally apply can make my life easier, or their invoice smaller.

k, reason i'm asking, specifically about toys, is that my wife is a daycare provider. one of my big motivations is to use upcycled plastics for things like sensory play, puzzles etc

9:07 AM

i'm not sure what kind of blowback i'd face doing that

Ah yeah, I don't make stuff like that.

9:08 AM

And food / child safe regulations are hard to abide by.

right

You'd want to look those up and understand them before investing any time in that.

for now i'll keep it a small scale thing. I'm gonna be faced with a lot of refuse from printing

9:09 AM

and since it's not been used for food type materials i'd like to make small sheets to manufacture other things

9:09 AM

maybe even reach out to other printer folk and collect their refuse. I know a few on the 3dprinting discord who collect vast amounts with nothing to do with them

Oh you do printing as well.

getting into it soon. not yet

Cool. Yeah, I think it's pretty awesome how many tools you can have for so little these days.

9:11 AM

Like at a household level.

it's proportional to my wife's patience

9:12 AM

she's a saint when it comes to this sort of stuff but i feel like i'm gonna push it too far one day : P

9:12 AM

i gotta head out though

9:12 AM

i really appreciate the dialog

9:13 AM

incredibly interesting stuff going on here

Of course. Good luck.

Helloo, Im new here

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hello guys

7:44 AM

@FidelZarco hello

7:44 AM

I am Also new

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and i need some help

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hope some one help me

7:47 AM

i have around 40k $ Is that enough to make a recycle plastic factory because in my town we need that so bad plastic waste all over the place it is even killing poor animals anyone can help me on anything related to this subject please contact me

It may help of you tell us where you are located. @Deleted User

Al Baha

8:15 AM

@Jonatan | NL u can google it

8:16 AM

but is the location needed here ?

hello ,im new here

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Does Europe and America generally have "plastic warehouse" type of stores? Where most of the stocked products are plastic household items and storage boxes? Because we have those stores and I'm wondering if that somehow fundamentally influences consumer perception.

We could probably contact our state's main recycling facility to buy plastic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ours just does #1 and #2

Virtually everything sold in the conventional "plastic stores" is virgin plastic. And if some of it is recycled, they don't "brag" about it.

@Frederik C (ZA) As an European : What. (So to answer, I don't think so, but I don't really understand what kind of store it is)

Yes. That's why I'm curious about it. That might explain major differences in consumer attitude, based on where you live.

In europe a lot of companies use a mix. There is actually a shortage of clean recyled plastic. But by recycling they mean plastic with manufacturing defects or so which has been shredded, not plastic that has been in the hands of consumers

It's difficult to draw conclusions without proper public surveys. But I can make "educated guesses" based on how much low-cost plastic household goods are available in the general market. Also, SA is a reasonably large plastic producer. So, a good percentage of goods are locally made, (including raw material.) So, that kind of moots the "buy local instead of imported" advertising.

I suspect, for us, the "winning strategy" (if there is one) is customization ("Can't find in the store? We'll make it for you!") and producing useful things that most commercial companies literally don't want to make, because it goes against the interests of the multi-national companies / corporate-owned politicians. But ultimately, in most markets, production cost will be key. (Again, just a guess. But based on experience in my local environment.)

Lets say that hypothetically, I want to shred plastic by hand (the time consuming horror

), what would the most useful size for the extrusion/melting processes?

mehh no help ...

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Lets say that hypothetically, I want to shred plastic by hand What exactly do you mean? Like cutting it with garden shears or a guillotine? Or a human-powered shredder?

Softer plastics with scissors or pocket knife

8:10 PM

Would flakes ~1 in x 1 in (2.5x2.5 cm) be too large?

Generally, the recommended size for the extruders are tiny. Almost like plastic sand grains. Because big pieces form cavities and air bubbles. But I guess it depends on what you're making.

the wood auger allows you up to around 30 mm - and that seems to work fine too

I'll probably try a guillotine. My friend said I can destroy his one, for experiments.

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Does anyone know where I can find the dimensions of the building blocks? A 3d model or a drawing. I saw the dwg files for the extruder molds, but not a description of the actual blocks

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I’m new here btw

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@RetroJoe : if it's about the bricks : https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/blob/master/products/moulds/bricks/drawings/Brick_single_ALL-Parts.PDF | the others follow soon; for now you just multiply it along the horizontal plane

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@Deleted User thanks! That will really help!

welcome on board - can't wait to see how is it going forya (edited)

@Deleted User just starting to get involved in the community. I’ll keep in touch!

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@Frederik C (ZA) not really, but some manufacturers have showrooms with a few hundred of their products available. A normal person generally wouldn't ever visit them, though.

anyone interested in polypropylene? 4-5 tons; only EU (Czech rep.)

@Trukku (Ohio, USA) That's interesting. South Africa has two main "plastics warehouse" store chains. Plastics For Africa and Mambo's. They are sort of like Lowe's or Home Depot. But instead of hardware they are filled with just about every plastic item you can think of. They're actually quite interesting stores. Their websites are more like online catalogues. It doesn't really give you a sense of what the store is like. But it's a "warehouse" vibe.

I drive past this one every other day, but I've never been. https://www.usplastic.com/default.aspx

nice writeup on using Discord - now, this is actually seriously f** up : https://sneak.berlin/20200220/discord-is-not-an-acceptable-choice-for-free-software-projects/, just came on in hackernews;

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I drive past this one every other day, but I've never been. https://www.usplastic.com/default.aspx Probably similar to that. People probably have to be near one to know about it, specifically. Our local ones don't advertise much, that I can see. But they are near malls.

nice writeup on using Discord - now, this is actually seriously f** up : https://sneak.berlin/20200220/discord-is-not-an-acceptable-choice-for-free-software-projects/, just came on in hackernews;

@Deleted User why is the internet always so shit now?

no idea, follow the $$ i guess

11:04 PM

let's not bother; there is another more interesting article : http://paulgraham.com/useful.html which also got on hackernews

why is the internet always so shit now? Internet cliques are the new tribes of the 21st Century. There's no sense of cohesion in the real World, (often on purpose: the old "divide and conquer" strategy) so people come together online to hate things in groups. Misery loves company. That's very superficial. But I think it's part of it.

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11:11 PM

The internet has hit its rebellious "teenage years" 29 years into its existence. It still needs to grow up... much like all human culture.

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well, let's take the best out of it, the last article says : "I believe the formula I've given you, importance + novelty + correctness + strength, is the recipe for a good essay. But I should warn you that it's also a recipe for making people mad."

That was a great essay. Thanks for sharing

Mainly, those of us with direct experience of the overthrow of Fascist regimes in the late 20th Century, are terrified that the lessons of the previous century are already forgotten. So, that growing sense of urgency is very real for a lot of people entering middle age now. My general sense of the World right now, is that of the proverbial frog in a pot that doesn't realise yet, that the flame on stove top has been lit. So, as long as the water temperature doesn't rise too quickly, it will sit there until it dies. The film Four Horsemen (link previously posted) makes a good point about our reactions to slow-moving disasters. "Because humans can adapt to living under virtually any conditions, the trait that has enabled us to survive, is the very trait that has suppressed us." Don't worry. I'm not going to bore you with an essay. But things are bad. Just saying... (edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) The USA does have some of those plastic stores, but not quite like that. They are not all plastic, but lots of plastic items. We generally don't have all plastic item places. Store like The Container Store have lots of different types of containers, but not all are plastic. The USA is a convenience culture. Thus lots of single use plastics.

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@Deleted User I'm not sure how much that can buy. But if elated to Euros, you can check out the bazaar to get an idea of what it costs to have people build the machines for you. If you have the skills and the tools, you can build them for less. https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/?category=machines

Machines - Precious Plastic Bazar

Machines on Precious Plastic Bazar

We generally don't have all plastic item places. Okay. Market differences are probably completely unrelated. I was just wondering. It's highly unlikely that the average American or European city-dweller would not have access to a similar range of products. I can't really picture that. The difference might just be in the percentage that's imported.

We do have lots of platic stuff

12:47 AM

plastic

12:48 AM

everything everywhere is plastic

12:48 AM

it just not a plastic store

12:48 AM

you wouldn't see a usplastics store here. or not that i know of

12:49 AM

but companies get the catalogs and can buy it all

hello

12:55 AM

i need some help to find the graphics from the website

12:55 AM

can somebody help me please

The plastic stores are somewhat "niche." For example, I needed a small water misting spray bottle and an ice tray with a lid. I couldn't find them. But go the plastic warehouse and, boom, there it is.

12:57 AM

can somebody help me please Ask away. We'll try.

graphic designs to download, then to translate into italian and then to print for a workshop

12:58 AM

i thought it could be easy to find the open source of those graphics but it wasn't

1:00 AM

we are going to have a workshop then an space in an expo but, we would like to have big posters from Precious Plastic to expose...

talk to dave?

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be

talk to dave?

@Arson before i wanted to be sure that it wasn't my stupidity in trying to find those graphics xD

very true. don't want to ask if it was right there in front of you

1:03 AM

I think if you start here, you'll get to the graphics and fonts to make a custom logo. Not sure if PP HQ logo is downloadable. Maybe contact them for that. But you can probably reproduce it with the download kit. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/branding

1:05 AM

Permissions for the "official" logo isn't quite clear to me.

thank you so much

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I would talk to Dave and ask if it would be ok to use it for exposure purposes at the expo

1:06 AM

If not, you can make your own PP logo for your workspace

we already have a PP logo

1:09 AM

what i wanted is the other graphics like types of plastics, sustainable economy, the recycling process using machines and things like that

1:09 AM

in order to share the missions to those who don't want to talk, just watch...

You might ask if they have a video that would be appropriate that they would allow you to use

that is an option

1:15 AM

good night, everyone. and thank you for your help

There are PowerPoint slide shows in the download kits, apparently. Still have to look.

1:19 AM

"Technically" the YouTube videos are creative commons. But downloading is "grey area."

1:22 AM

That's from the YouTube side, not Dave.

i download youtube videos all the time with plugins

1:23 AM

i use them in class and i hate to have to rely on youtube to be working

1:24 AM

or stupid ads to popup

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so i download and show them from my computer

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things related to whatever i am teaching

1:24 AM

they are usually short clips of science/engineering related topics

I can neither "officially" confirm nor deny that you may do that.

haha, yeah. i can plead ignorance

1:27 AM

our wifi doesn't always work int eh classroom

1:27 AM

I have a question guys, where I can get help about the machines? Because I've been working at one machine but i got stuck cause I dont have the knwoledge

Maybe ask in here or #archived-machines

Its just offline archiving... yeah, thats it... I'm preserving the original source...

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4:24 AM

I clipped parts of a documentary for a class presentation bc the video was free on YouTube but for some reason, incorrectly age-gated.

Hello. This is Bharani.

May I request someone for information on Thermocol (styrofoam) powdering machine. India

Never heard of a machine like that @Bharani, sounds like it might be messy!

yeah. i can plead ignorance Its just offline archiving... yeah, thats it... I'm preserving the original source... YouTube has a mobile app that allows offline viewing. So if you can screencast from that to do a presentation, I assume you're well within the terms of service (that none of us have ever bothered to read).

I actually read Mailchimp's TOS, the other day. It's a legal document that contains the phrase "zombie apocalypse." Seriously.

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Hi ALL, I’m Alana Attai from Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean, and currently in Ontario, Canada on business. I’m a new member to this forum so not sure if I’m asking this question in the right place. I am helping plan a food festival that’s coming up in Ontario, Canada in late March where the goal is to host a green event. Originally, compostable foodware was considered but the commercial composting facilities here do not accept compostable foodware. Recyclable foodware is an alternative option but there are limitations on the types of plastic that can be recycled at the local waste facilities. Looking for creative ideas. Has anyone used the PP machines to set up an on-site plastic recycling station to sort, collect and recycle plastic waste at a food festival? If yes, would you let me know what was the response, lessons learned, set-up requirements, cost, etc?

@Lans there are goups doing similar at beach sites - but rather in an educational context

6:53 PM

https://www.facebook.com/plasticprecioslasafor/ | among many others - even TV stations pick it up

Awesome @Deleted User ! That’s great to hear. Thanks for the link. Just looked at it and it’s in Spanish. Would you happen to know any others? The educational component is an added benefit, however, we need services for the event.

yeah - in the forum we had discussions about festivals but with no outcome. folks had the idea to make cups but that will collide with regulations. what you wanna do exactly ? recycle plates & cups ? I'd rather place myself with a machine gun beside the bar and insist using glass instead, kiding

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6:59 PM

@Deleted User ... this is SO helpful! Reading through the feedback on that forum now. I want to design out waste and pollution generated from foodware at the event. Patrons will eat food onsite as well as do takeout. Having reusable foodware for onsite dining is possible to coordinate. It’s the takeout service that’s tricky to manage. Making foodware onsite is very appealing (if possible) ... anyone doing that yet? MAKE ~> USE~> RECYCLE ~> REUSE foodware

8:06 PM

Seeing discussion in the chat forum link about this. Loving these concepts.

yeah - the forum is definitively the biggest asset of the entire project so far, at least with the right mind set

foodware : there are regulations - saying no, but I heard they lowered the barriers on PETG about food contact (edited)

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Hello, I am Nathan from Santa Barbara, CA. I am excited about precious plastics because it is an active process that redefined what recycling is. I was thinking about making an injection workspace to make give away products to raise awareness of the need for plastic recycling. I also think it would be awesome to make children’s toys

8:24 PM

Also I’m new. Hi!

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@Deleted User yes THE FORUM is a great collaboration space! Where did you hear about that ? lowering the barriers on PETG for food contact.

Can't recall right now, must have been on the EPA's site https://www.epa.gov/ or one of the bigger plastic recycling associations/agencies

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8:38 PM

not sure though it's a USA thing only

I wouldn't be surprised - especially when PETG still releasing particles over time

https://www.plasticosferplast.com/en/materials/petg/ : anyway, PP has no real process for PET ... (edited)

PETG - Ferplast

The PETG is an alternative that complies with the regulations of products in contact with food. We adapt your format for you!

@Deleted User Hello. Yeah, even now the one which I am working is also a hard to manage the mess. Any idea on that machine?

@Lans is there maybe a private composting firm that would accept biodegradable foodware? Depending on the site and regulation you could maybe set up a compost pile system on site.

In case anybody missed my earlier post: 3 friends and I are currently running a crowdfunding campaign to fund setting up a precious plastic recycling workspace in a school for disadvantaged children in North East India. It would be great if the community could help spread the campaign to friends and family, and maybe some of you can chip in a couple of bucks. We'd be super happy about that. https://chuffed.org/project/practical-plastic-recycling-education-assam

Plastic Recycling Project in North-East India, Assam

With your support we will set up a "precious plastic" recycling workspace in the Akshar Forum School in Guwahati, Assam, to teach disadvantaged kids how to turn plastic waste into valuable products.

commercial composting facilities here do not accept compostable foodware

What the actual f&*k ⁉ Whose side are these companies on? The website Academy needs more good information on compostable plastics. Until recently, I didn't even know that was a thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodegradable_plastic

Biodegradable plastic

Biodegradable plastics are plastics that can be decomposed by the action of living organisms, usually microbes, into water, carbon dioxide, and biomass. Biodegradable plastics are commonly produced with renewable raw materials, micro-organisms, petrochemicals, or combinations ...

11:47 AM

It's mind-blowing how long some of this stuff has been available. But industry leaders and lobbyists keep telling us how "complicated" the situation is. Especially when you consider that one of the major "arguments" against single-use plastic bans in developing countries is that it will lead to job losses. "Nope... No conspiracies here... just move along..." (edited)

Any one here based around Caulfield and wants to start a community?

12:03 PM

Caulfield, Melbourne

the party is over guys, robots on the rise - driving PPers out of business : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nkImklokDo&feature=emb_title

boundlessmaking

Robotic Thermoplastic Shape-winding

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c'mon , it's sunday - let's push the boundaries a little

No, you're on your own on that one...

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yeah xD

You still need someone to operate the robots

Depends on the kind of robot...

yeah look what they do to the poor robots at boston dynamics, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RIHnK0_NE

Corridor

New Robot Makes Soldiers Obsolete (Corridor Digital)

Yeah, I saw that. It's awesome. One of two spoofs on the Atlas videos.

Of course, they literally do want to replace soldiers, for real. But that's a whole other, serious topic. (edited)

and cops - to keep us behind the fence one day :-( a pity, all i see is good litter pickers

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The game no-one can crack... because there's no money in it...

New here, and getting closer to building some machines in Reno/Lake Tahoe area - anyone in the area?

The T-HR3 robot from Japan is particularly interesting because it has haptic feedback to the operator (starts at 1m50s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhm89FWOy8V&t=01m50s (edited)

@Deleted User ... this is SO helpful! Reading through the feedback on that forum now. I want to design out waste and pollution generated from foodware at the event. Patrons will eat food onsite as well as do takeout. Having reusable foodware for onsite dining is possible to coordinate. It’s the takeout service that’s tricky to manage. Making foodware onsite is very appealing (if possible) ... anyone doing that yet? MAKE ~> USE~> RECYCLE ~> REUSE foodware

@Lans most festivals in the UK now insist you pay a deposit for a reusable cup. You could try similar for take away food at the festival?

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12:13 AM

@lans and also I saw this comment on Instagram and it seemed relevant to your question...

12:13 AM

[sorry... you missed my hilariously funny message...

] (edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) Someone has to talk. Might as well be you.

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Hey @Frederik C (ZA) According to the Material Recovery Facility here in York Region, compostable foodware does not breakdown within the timeframe it takes to compost organics. I also email the composting facilities directly. One of them replied saying that their machines cannot distinguish between solid waste and compostable foodware . As such, compostable foodware is removed and sent to the landfill. I’ve heard that the composting facilities in Berkeley, California are experiencing similar problems. In any event, compostable foodware isn’t sustainable... growing crops to create plant-based resins for compostable foodware that gets used and discarded in a few minutes is not sustainable, especially when we need crops for food. (edited)

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@Lans @Frederik C (ZA) compostable foodware is a con. You need high temp industrial composting system...which is not required for food waste. It's so indistinguishable from standard plastic that you need a very dedicated stream of it to make any sort of processing sense. It merely placates any half-conscious consumer in to believing their meal has no long term consequence.

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10:11 AM

My 500yearpizza campaign asked why any pizza deserved a 5 century legacy.

I'll have to do some more reading on the economics of it all... As I've said before, the best we can hope for, for the foreseeable future, is simply to do less harm. No harm is not an option. In principle, I wish abundant plastic didn't exist. But it does. So, here we are...

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Also, the predictions for viable agricultural land for the rest of the 21st Century, are pretty grim. So, my other major interest is urbanized, vertical farming. Because many countries have not fully woken up to the realities of future food scarcity. So, if you can grow food in controlled environments, you can also grow the raw material needed to supply compostable plastic. And the inevitable byproducts of that can be managed / mitigated, because it doesn't go directly into the atmosphere. It can be contained. Also, there are new possibilities on the horizon like PDK (polydiketoenamine). As I've said, we need to keep an eye on that research, because I suspect the plastics industry will try to convince everyone that that's not "commercially viable" either. You know... like they car industry did for about 100 years concerning electric cars. (edited)

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Do i have to make a new account for the new bazar (i already have one for the old bazar)? (edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) , tell me, we start really wondering whether there is actually ANY food in the super market left. We already noticed that the only things you can buy there are entertainment items, shampoo, beer, ahm. that´s about it

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in 10 years we may start selling on the bazar real food, and possibly family bundles of fresh open source air

I've largely steered clear of "food activism." (Just look away for a few minutes, vegans.) I figure those who are in a position to be picky eaters, are WAY ahead of the curve. As for GMO... I don't care much. I have no strong opinion, either way.

yeah, just saying, water and food crisis seems to hit the west now - even though it´s rather invisible yet

10:09 PM

how is´t in ZA ? I assume you still have a sort of classic agriculture and organic markets over there ..

America can use a diet so it'll be helpful lol

10:12 PM

I'm kidding that's rude -_-

but nailed it

People don't see anything being made/done anymore and companies basically just buy up farms now bc they can

10:13 PM

So we're going to have major issues

...A little busy... I'll answer...

Companies need to be put in check before anything will ever improve and they can buy anyone they want to keep things from affecting them

+100, reminds me of the ´the revolution will be televised´ video

I just think it's unfair they blame us when it's them just trying to save a buck. Does anyone really need to make a million dollars a year? No lol.

ahm, about the 1M, it´s actually around 1M one should have to stay safe, healthy & happy, with the kids

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10:27 PM

that´s btw. an entry high profile developer wage

That's a lot. We don't make anywhere near that much and we're happy and survive.

I know perfectly what you mean. This might be too complex and long to discuss for Discord. Coming back, to the topic, wasn´t there actually a pretty small number this planet can sustain, population wise ? To my recollection, that was about a tiny fraction of what is there now. In Sci-Fi books they illustrated very well of what a ideal world may look like. 1M would be then also just a tiny fraction btw. Just saying, it seems to be a matter of definition of what ´happy´ really means (we count around 17 factors in science). With my career behind, having wages in the 5 digit ranges, I can´t recall really a moment of true peace or happiness, fluctuations at best, possibly because I tend rather being a misanthrope but that´s another book

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Yeah we have a population problem for sure.

10:52 PM

And with everyone trying to live like the US or better, it's going to continue to be an issue lol. Maybe they just plan to trick people into going to Mars and it becomes a neverending journey and way to depopulate the planet slowly.

I don't know as much about our agriculture as I probably should. I have relatives who were or still are commercial farmers. From what little I know, the sector has been more or less fully modernised. But it has been ill-prepared for climate change. And there are now land ownership and power struggle issues which stems from the socio-political fallout of 368 years of Colonialism. That significantly complicates the prospects for stable food production. (edited)

oh dear, I won´t sleep good this nite, now it´s confirmed, ´precious life´, after ´precious food´, and somewhat ´precious happyness´, g´nite everyone. Good to know we have the best mod around

I figure those who are in a position to be picky eaters, are WAY ahead of the curve.

Cheap meat is a product of capitalism. It's mass production, scale economics and whole bunch of cruelty along the way. There's nothing natural about the fact that meat costs less than what you find in a vegan diet. And our "meat and dairy every day" culture is just marketing campains and brainwashing from powerful lobbies for years and years.

Nailed, it´s much worst I am afraid, I can´t tell of a single area or river without disgusting smell or devastating pollution, down here in Spain - the downtown for Europe to wash it's hands clean about dirty food production. The entire south coast btw. serves as go GMO paradise for the north, you can even see the white tends on Google Earth. They do mostly hire black immigrants to grow your beautiful red tomatos, we spoke with them, plain horrible slavery (edited)

11:40 PM

dont get me started about the orange fields

Need a worldwide effort to force companies to be more responsible in general. Maybe food shouldn't be so cheap and we'd be more picky about what we consume.

11:48 PM

It still bothers me some places ban your own veggies gardens

Grains are the biggest part of the African staple diet. And considering the percentage of those living on or below the poverty line, what's available is the consideration that comes first. Cost is a close second. Since people treat food like a religion, their minds are already made up. Therefore, as I've said, I largely side-step the debate. Because it usually overlooks a lot of things that people on the opposite side of the planet cannot conceive of. Most people eat to live. They don't live to eat. "Virtue signalling" is for people who don't have bigger problems.

'like religion', No, it's more like a treasure hunt here already

11:56 PM

eggs, butter, cheese, soil, water, name it - there's little good left

11:56 PM

fish & meat is out for a good reasons already since a while

I'm American and we could definitely limit what we use.

11:57 PM

Africa is screwed bc everyone is there just destroying their land.

11:57 PM

= /

"Virtue signalling" is for people who don't have bigger problems.

generally, people eat vegan food because they believe in something and have principles they live by. You can disagree with those principles but saying it's just "virtue signalling" is a huge generalization. I agree with you that it's a trend for people who can afford choices, but it doesn't mean it's to be discarded. In my opinion it's still a step forward to a better society. Anyway I'll stop here since you don't want to get into this debate and it's not the point of this Discord

Well, I could try, but I'll rather not. In my experience, people tend to be very inflexible about it. Exactly because they care a lot, and I don't care much. What we can agree on, is that the World humans have created for themselves, objectively, makes no sense at all. (edited)

Yeah.

YESSSS!!!

I'm not the final commenter of the day... Oh, wait... Damn it! Stupid!...Stupid!

you ruined it @Frederik C (ZA)

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https://www.army-technology.com/news/company-news/3d-printing-recycled-plastic/ Sustainable, err, Army...

Kavya Chivukula

US Army Research Laboratory explores 3D printing from recycled plastic

The US Army Research Laboratory (ARL) is looking at new environmentally-friendly alternatives with 3D printing from recycled plastic waste.

"Absorb what is useful, discard what is not." The Senator, that spoke at that University of Maine 3D-printed boat unveiling ceremony, also said "this will be extremely useful for the military."

@Frederik C (ZA) I'm not sure how to reply to a message so it shows up above my response. Thank you very much for sharing the new research on PDK. This work is very important.

It wasn't me originally, actually. See: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888903994376201/671906933997043732

Festivals continue to be an interesting test scenario. I've previously suggested the silicone camping cup, that I personally use: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/600998730262380545/665639888380493834 But maybe we should consider robotic, rapid dishwashing stations that can be hired for events. Hypothetically... I haven't specifically seen one. I'm thinking a cabinet that blasts the foodware with pressurised jets of steam. (edited)

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@lechatblanc Oh that's interesting ty!

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] "Ta-da!": https://newbazar.preciousplastic.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=122

Precious Plastic Badge - Workspace

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https://www.boredpanda.com/illustration-plastic-pollution-ravi-koranga/

Ravi Koranga

I Illustrate The Damage Caused By Plastic Pollution (31 Pics)

My conceptual art series shows a tiny scuba diver wandering through different ocean-facing scenarios which depict how much destruction is caused by plastic.

No member badges, guess that means I need to jump into something soon

Currently leaning towards being a collection point, with the goal of cleaning up roadside litter in the process. Upside, less local pollution and a possible starting point for other people if there is a reliable plastic reclamation stream. Downside is a current lack of storage space.

6:33 PM

Another upside is knowing what our regional recycling facility WILL and WILL NOT accept.

No member badges There's always a catch.

Don't you make convicted people clean along the highways for community service, in the US? Maybe get into that system.

Here, some people do that to stay alive. Downside is a current lack of storage space. Yup... a common problem for most of us.

I think I saw a correctional crew working once in my lifetime. We have a thing called "Adopt a Highway" where people/organizations are in charge of cleaning up roadsides, but its not too frequent around my area. Maybe once a season.

7:24 PM

Good ol' nature walks...

7:26 PM

Whoever is in charge of roadkill cleanup at least gets it like once a week. Then again that may just be nature itself

Clean-up detail should be part of traffic fines. Won't help much here, though. Too many cops accept bribes.

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] @Frederik C (ZA) It depends on where you live. In the South, they are tougher on criminals and make them (I think now it is more volunteer) clean up the roads, make license plates for cars, etc. They used to use the chain gangs to bust up rocks and clear fields and forest for farmers. Of course they got paid, just not a lot (not even minimum wage). The North and other areas are a lot easier on criminals and they don't do anything like that.

Well... okkaaayy...

not so sure about that. I've seen investigate journalism programmes on how the profit motive of privatized prisons perpetuate high conviction rates and modern slavery in the US. But I'm not an expert. I actually just meant making people do clean-up in and round public areas, instead of just buying their way out of trouble with a traffic ticket or a fine. It will make people think twice. And help out. Or not.

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Maybe if there were local govt jobs where workers cleaned up litter, people would be less likely to toss it out of car windows because taxes

We actually have that in the UK and it doesn't make a difference at all

Yeah, makes sense. If everyone is paying it, then its less personal responsibility. Whereas a fine for getting caught for littering is more direct but difficult to enforce

8:21 PM

I'm just mad that most of our highways in this state look like this practically everywhere

We actually have that in the UK In SA too. But they stick to demarcated zones. So, in areas with high tax rates, it sort of works. In areas with low tax rates, not so much.

I saw a spot in either Kentucky or Indiana where there was a sign displaying that the local casino was in charge of cleaning up a section and the roadside had about a 90% surface cover of trash.

8:25 PM

The section inches before it was reasonably clear, but you could tell where their boundary line was

8:25 PM

Sorry, most of the world uses metric. Centimeters*

We know what inches are. Those little birds.

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8:33 PM

The Afrikaans (and I'm guessing Dutch) for "inch" is "duim," meaning "thumb." (It's about a thumb's width, right?) When you Yanks measure, you're "all thumbs."

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Sounds right. We also have weird measurements, like another country is X amount of an irregularly shaped state like Texas or New York

8:44 PM

Not Colorado or Wyoming, those are nice and rectangular. Not Hawaii because its multiple islands. Maybe not Alaska either. Anything else is fair game

8:47 PM

We also measure populations by stadium sizes on occasion.

Yeah, those straight borders in the US are weird-looking. You just know that was not negotiated. That's straight out of a bureaucrat's office.

Borders usually either follow rivers or some longitude/latitude line

Umm... no... borders, in most of the World, follow the valleys, mountains, canyons and deserts where invading armies looked up or across... and said: "Oh, f&%k this!" (edited)

The borders of Europe have been redrawn so many times in the last few hundred years, that some of the countries where some of my ancestors came from, don't exist as sovereign States anymore.

I meant for the US but yeah

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I'm currently in the process of buying machines on the bazaar but they are proving to cost quite a bit. How can I trust the machine builders to deliver on their promises and not just run away with my life savings?

1. check they have any references of their builds 2. check they have any social media presences 3. figure out how long they're around (forum,...) 4. check they have any online presence (website) 5. try to get a call and discuss your project normally it's unlikely that somebody runs off, the consequences for them would outweigh the profit

8:40 AM

if it's a bazar sale, then you won't be charged til your receive it .. this of course won't apply if the item is more than 2000 since they need a down-payment. the worst thing what can still happen are delays, like china being down for now ...

another thing should be noticed that most sales over 1K won't create any reviews because it's all done outside of the bazar, for chash flow reasons.

I saw a spot in either Kentucky or Indiana where there was a sign displaying that the local casino was in charge of cleaning up a section and the roadside had about a 90% surface cover of trash.

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] That is not Kentucky. We do not have casinos. But I do believe Indiana does.

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@the_troubleshooter Please don't be serious about it being your life savings that you are spending on these machines. Also, I wouldn't depend on PP for my livelihood either. The machine builders make money, but I am not sure about the rest of the workspaces. There is potential to make money doing it as a side job, but I wouldn't count on it providing you with living wages (at least not yet for most places). There are some that could be profitable if you have an end product that has good sales. I would just encourage you to do a really good business plan and study if it is profitable before putting in your life savings or taking out a loan.

yeah, count on 2 - 12 months to get a good handle on it. folks who are already long in craft have it usually much easier to try out new materials and it's developments. I guess it's same for machine builders, with every new tool, machine and lesson learned, everything changes quickly upon. might sound a little ignorant - but if it's good, money comes usually to you

Hi Guys.Can I put in my two cents worth. I also think the machines are over priced. I know it is a lot of work(laser cutting

) but to be honest, I think it is a rip off. Why dont we plan a budget model.You know, made from off the shelf stuff and a lot of elbow grease. Like using flat bar for the blades, shaped by handtools.We are not performing brain surgery.We just want to make a difference, not put ourselves in dept.

1:07 PM

What do you think?

You can do that if you want @steve .down south inc. But at the end of the day building it completely by hand is more expensive if you factor in your time.

1:14 PM

It d be better if the community buys a laser cutter or water jet and can provide the parts for a small price go the community

1:14 PM

To*

Jip.If you look at it that way.But your own labour is free.To do this we need to improvise .we cannot sit around and wait for a nice price to fall from the sky.

You can do that if you want, just use the plans and get out an angle grinder :0

@steve .down south inc. : there are actually a few at least who keep price & value in balance. please check also the new material bills to get an idea how much labour or profit has been added

1:22 PM

but generally I agree, we´re far away from a good price

Why am I saying this? tha basis salary in south Africa is 250 euro. A shredder cost 3000 euro. You make the sums.This is out of reach for anybody if they do not have a sponsor or donor. My aim is to help as many unemployed people as possible.They cant all be collecting and be kept out of the fun stuff.

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1:26 PM

So not joining the choir of people looking for funds I have to do the alternative.Easy if you have money....

If you make the shredder yourself in south Africa its gonna be cheaper. But if you buy one from europe where the wages are way higher what do you expect?

1:46 PM

And 3000?? Most shredders on the bazar are 1/3rd of that lol

Cost in Soth Africa on a V1- 2333 euro.ex delivery.Imports (granulator)5000 euro from china ex import duties and tax.You see our funny money not worth much.most of our iron and steel is imported so the cost is high laser cutters are a new thing and most of the guys are still paying the "bond" on the cutter. That is why the prices are so high, and oh ja, our electic supply is shockingly expensive and unrelayable. So catch 22.

I think there was someone trying to cut the blades by hand, I don't know how it went. Maybe check the forums

Thanks will do so.Will do my first on the weekend.

I would just go to a local mechanic and ask him to built it. The guys out there learned how to improvise :p

We'll be able to get a better understanding of what's available to us, with a public general meeting. But it's a mission to get South Africans co-ordinated. Everyone has their own "bright ideas." A Facebook "group" with about 1 useless message a month. No activity on the forum. So, I've been trying to get meetings organised. I also think your price estimits are way off, Steve.

2:14 PM

That being said, we are all cash-strapped. So, making it work, locally, simply is not an easy thing. That's for sure.

Price on shredder is from our guy in Cape TownR 35000. Granulator is quote I got from guys in JHB. R76 000.

They don't always follow the PP plans. There may be good reasons for that. That's part of what needs to be explained to the local community. Then maybe we can help with parts sourcing, for example.

I like to do my home work before I put my foot in my mouth.I am able to do most of the work on any of the machines.Workplace with equipment is a problem in the rural areas.Machine shops are too expensive and at tghis rate PP will stay a hobby with most out there.

2:21 PM

I feel frustrated when I read the comments and oppinions or the majority out there.

I know. My "strategy" has been to get established maker spaces excited about the idea. I'm not sure if it will work. It's ongoing. (edited)

Thanks for the support.I dont think anybody out there knows the frustration of living in South Africa.Or trying to start something new...eish! Met YS.......!!

2:25 PM

Will chat again.Have to pick up the BOSS.

It's part of the culture. "Almal is hardegat."

We now return to your regularly scheduled programming...

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that´s not a valid hex format, try harder

[Insert some clever computer geek comeback here, when you think of one.]... ⏳

damn, you busted me

Всем привет! Есть русскоговорящие?)

попробуй русский канал, #🍞russia

Спасибо!

I found the video I was referencing a while back!

4:04 PM

https://youtu.be/WZdc208zea0 This is the bottle to thread maker AND how I found Precious Plastic to start with

United Nations

Redefining Waste - Use plastic creatively

https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/science/2020/02/old-school-plan-to-fight-plastic-pollution-gathers-steam

An old-school plan to fight plastic pollution gathers steam

Companies like Coca-Cola used to collect 98 percent of their bottles, and new entrepreneurs are learning from their tactics.

4:29 PM

Interesting piece about Loop - retrnnable product packaging. Pitfalls of compostable plastic and the importance of consumer buying power.

30 sqm recommended for a collection space

that's so much larger than my garage

5:21 PM

I only have like 3 sqm of available space, guess I have to do some organizing

People who say "but it's so much cheaper to make new plastic than to recycle it" are like the people who about 1½ centuries ago said "but it's so much cheaper to have slaves instead of employees." Yes... we know. Not really the point...

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Hello? I’m new to all this. Like i just saw the website an hour ago. But i’d like to get involved and start my own business.

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hey , guys - we´re working on a kinda perfect product description, also available as template for the others. here´s what we´ve got so far : https://newbazar.preciousplastic.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=152 I understood that there should be a few more standard modules : -> specs table -> related how-tos -> some other academy fragments -> related / possible products -> limitations -> social media content of the product -> ´completeness´ notes -> locale based infos -> component table list / explode view -> links to manuals / assembly info anything I missed ? quite some work in there btw. but covers all questions upfront - good descriptions / complete content btw. do drive sales nicely

looks like the new bazar might be the best place to promote the project in all it´s facets .. you can´t imagine what people come along here

Literally the best I can do... Hex is just not funny

yeah, there isn´t much fun in hex except you actually can speak it

Can you write in Cyrillic or is that one of your bot tricks?

sorry, I understand the question, can you rephrase ?

9:29 PM

what happened to the food discussion, started off well

You answered in Russian (I think).

ah, that´s because they tortured us with in the east 6 years long

Yeah, I figured...

besides, always happy to meet the travelers here

btw. we do create all the bazar fragments for parenting v3 & v4 machinery as drop ins as well - saves you guys from endless calls and emails I hope

@steve .down south inc. @Frederik C (ZA) Is it possible to use a plasma cutter or torch to cut the basic shape out of metal stock? Then you can shape it to the final dimensions using a grinding wheel, file or some other method? Surely there are plasma cutters or cutting torches that could be used instead f needing a waterjet or laser cutter. Then using time and some elbow grease you could get it down to shape. It doesn't have to be perfect for a shredder. It is just ripping plastic apart.

10:16 PM

Or buy 150 Euro parts and built it once it arrives

grab the 150 set, otherwise hand plasma cut and all the follow up gonna make you hate the thing

Hey Arson, my local group built one with a plasma cutter but it weakens the steel, not recommended. I bought a crappy rusty old metal fence that I envision making a poor persons shredder from, just using round hole metal bits and some grinding. I hear someone has done this already.

10:22 PM

I would just pay for it as well.

unless you have a CNC plasma table (hard to make too), no biggy then

Yeah. I bought a used industrial shredder.

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US$200 plus shipping

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They were just talking about the price for them in South Africa

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The shipping for mine was more than I paid for the machine

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but should do about 200 pounds of plastic per hours

Hi everyone! As i am quite new here, I would like to introduce myself and why I choose to join the precious plastic universe

I am a 23 years old chemist engineer, specialized in polymers science and plasturgy.

I am living in Strasbourg (France), studied at the European School of Chemistry, Polymers and Materials (ECPM Strasbourg). We have huge ressources (space, machines, motivated volunteer students) to do something realy big, inspired with the spirit of PreciousPlastic. We are working on a huge project, which is for the moment, following these baseline:

Collecting plastic waste that I call 'niche waste' (meaning it is not integrated in a collection or recycling loop that can be revalorated in a better way than by incineration)
Create and manage/manage multiple small collection points in the city of Strasbourg, which would be centralized at the school.
Shred this plastic intelligently and manage the different stocks well.
Extrude the recycled pellets to upgrade it, either as a 3D printing filament or as a finished part such as a bowl (or other).

For the moment, as far as possible, I would like members of the PreciousPlastic community interested in discussing/giving me their points of view/sharing their experiences to come and exchange with me! :) I'm not working alone on the subject, and besides, 3 of my friends from my school will be on Heidoven during summer. (if you need some help) I hope I have aroused your interest and conveyed to you the excitement I have about this project which has great potential!

It is Mathieu for a better world

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@Arson I'm reasonably confident we can find solutions if we can build a small support base of people who are serious about the wider potential of PP. I've also been warned about taking shortcuts on the laser-cutting, because of tight clearances needed on the machines. I think maybe we can build a shredder locally for around ZAR7000 (about €420.) The high USD/EUR to ZAR exchange rate makes shipping prices very brutal. Import tariffs are quite high. I think the problem here, is more social than economic. But we are a so-called "developing country" nonetheless.

That would definitely make a difference

Best not to try to "analyze" things too much. I know more about the country's true history than most people twice my age. But, in a nutshell, we stopped just short of full-scale civil war around 28 years ago. There are ripple effects. And most people understand far less than they think they do.

Yeah. South Africa has lots of growing pains still.

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And that is without the slavery baggage we have.

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And we still have issues 150 years later

@M4tSou does your group have a website or other social channel? I'd love to follow your progress.

@Arson the slavery baggage we have You mean also have. Because in our case it is worse. Your slaves were mostly imported. Ours were mostly conquered. Picture a USA, similar to how it is today, but where 80% of the population are Amerindian.

@lechatblanc Hello Dan! For the moment, no social media, but we are working on it :) I might post some things on davehakkens website, as I have a profile We would like to set up the thing as closest as the spirit of PreciousPlastic, so this is why we are looking to discuss with the community to prepare it the best way

@M4tSou sounds like your team are well qualified! What 'niche waste' have you identified? Do you have a plan for what to do with it?

@M4tSou , that´s just great ! PP is a little bumpy when it comes to peer contributions or protocols. I am sending you some docs as private message about how to contribute efficiently the next days.

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@Frederik C (ZA) That would make it worse.

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@Arson the slavery baggage we have You mean also have. Because in our case it is worse. Your slaves were mostly imported. Ours were mostly conquered. Picture a USA, similar to how it is today, but where 80% of the population are Amerindian.

@Frederik C (ZA) Slavery is common practice in the US prison system to this day. Are you saying that there is ongoing slavery in ZA, or, are you referring to the history under Apartheid.

In some ways continuing... low wages; most of the population "homeless" by Western standards; economic disparity based on race; deadly working conditions in the mining sector with profits mostly flowing overseas... But mostly historical. The European invaders (my ancestors) needed Black labour more than they needed land. So, there was genocide involved, but to a "lesser" (assuming you can quantify an atrocity) extent. The genocide took place mostly under the Dutch. (So, the VOC imported slaves from Malaysia.) The enslavement took place later, mostly under the British. They needed labour more than land. In America the native population were massacred , en masse, because they were not needed as a work force.

In SA, slavery was officially "abolished" in 1838. But, it was a meaningless concession by the British. Non-White people couldn't vote until 1994. On the same basis, I would argue that American slavery, as an "official institution" only ended in 1969.

The current situation has some superficial parallels with what is briefly explained about the Congo in the video below. We have many Congolese refugees in SA. One of them is my friend. What Joe Scott failed to mention (maybe on purpose) is that the CIA played a key role in the assassination of Lumumba. Just like they did in the capture of Nelson Mandela and the suppression of Democracy in SA. Now, you've got American politicians saying: "Mandela! What a hero!" Fuck you, assholes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=25G4BcioPjE

Joe Scott

The Trouble With Cobalt | Answers With Joe

Is it possible to add a member pin to the (new) map or is it just the other options?

No.

I promised to keep an "official" tally of how many people ask about member pins. But I've lost count.

A community point or workspace are currently your only options.

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Please sign the Avaaz campaign. There's a definite change happening here in the UK. Lidl just announced recycled packaging made from Ocean-bound plastic.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/lidl-plastic-packaging-fish-recycled-ocean-waste-south-east-asia-environment-a9362626.html

Lidl introduces packaging recycled from ocean-bound waste

Initiative will prevent more than 60 tonnes of plastic from entering the ocean per year

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Tesco supermarket now "reserving right" to de-list products deemed to have irresponsible packaging. It seems if consumers make the noise, the markets are starting to listen.

@lechatblanc , I have been scanning a lot of hospitals in our region. In fact, everyday 10 kg of PP plates used for serving meals are thrown away into the incineration bin. In this is for only one hospital! We have like 15 places where I can find this kind of 'niche waste'. The only treatment we need to do with it is cleaning, which is quite simple once you have a sodium bath or something similar

We also have the white PP jerricans, used in chemistry labs for acetone or other solvents. Most of them are not recycled in our University, what a shame! :p We quantified (roughly) that during the next 5 months, we would be able to collect around 700-800 kg of PP waste, and we have the capacity to recycle it properly and create new things! The plans are either filaments for 3D printing (our extruders can manage that properly) or final products (but design and create a mold for our injection press will take quite a lot of time)

Wow, amazing. How about making plates?? Or even a dishwasher so they stop using the plastic!

We have this sheepress available (not as big as the ones you propose)

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ECPM Sheetpress

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Plot twist, I've asked the question before so your count won't change

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Out of interest - how well do the quick release clamps work? Seems like a great idea and would be keen to hear folks feedback that have used them. I’m guessing clamp location is key?

Hello everyone, In the starterkit collection point, I didn't see any flyers? Does someone has a template to work on it? Thank you

@M4tSou Do you have plans for your sodium bath? What s the process?

Finally, the YouTube bot avatar changed. I was sick of Zuckerberg's face.

It looks like Paul is really having fun when making the videos. On the injection one he's just like "I'm going to sit on the floor barely in camera shot to explain this step"

Hello, I have been here for almost one week, but I forgot to introduce myself. I am Ryoma from Japan, but living in Indonesia. I am the leader of Precious Plastic Recycle Naga. By the way I am 13 years old. I go to Jakarta Intercultural School. Me and my friends decided to start a injection workspace for a math business project. But we really are passionate and we will go further than just a math project. We have an injection and shredding machine donated by Indonesia's PP community. We will sell products like carabiner, phone cases and accessories inside the school. If you want to contact me, feel free to contact via email: 44653@jisedu.or.id, or just via discord.

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I think I am the youngest in Precious Plastic.

Hello, I'm Wes from North Carolina. Currently trying to get a group together to make the precious plastic equipment. I work for a company that outputs a lot of plastic but the contractors that get it recycled are terrible at their job so a lot ends up at the incinerator/dump. My plan is to build a precious plastic shop/makerspace so we can ensure the material is used for good. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527609385674080295/682276339629162635/IMG_20200117_132543.jpg

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(that's about 500kg of virgin plastic that got tossed out due to small defects or them switching chapstick flavors and dumping excess caps from the previous run)

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one remember the times before AutoCad & friends

https://designyoutrust.com/2018/10/amazing-vintage-photos-that-show-how-life-before-autocad-looked-like/?fbclid=IwAR3byPq1SNihFikA0hiJnAZXT87x2q1lfMKRbFMzHTxp7HpxBA6NDx9a_kQ

Dmitry

Amazing Vintage Photos That Show How Life Before AutoCAD Looked Like

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plastic as life safer

https://designyoutrust.com/2020/02/creative-solutions-people-came-up-with-to-try-to-protect-themselves-from-coronavirus/

Dmitry

Creative Solutions People Came Up With To Try To Protect Themselves...

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hello everyone, i am a new member from Serbia

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@Arson hey! For the moment, I don't wanna give information that I have not verify from ourselves, but the process would be the same has the one used in chemistry labs. Sodium bath with specific concentration and chemicals (not toxic, not harmless, not CMR etc) used to clean the glassware can be used for 2-3 months without changing it. I will keep you in touch once we manage to create something clean and stable overtime

@M4tSou Thanks. I am very interested in a wash system fro removing food waste and hopefully paper and adhesive residue. People around here don't go through the trouble of washing or removing labels. Just throw it in a bin and they did a good thing.

@Arson I totally agree with you. It is not because there is food/adhesive/other residue on the plastic that it can't be removed. As far as I know, I am sure that our chemistry knowledge/background will help the community here! The thing is that the power of washing the plastic waste is not as accessible is it seems, and I haven't seem many topics talking about that on Preciousplastic (if I am false please let me know

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Hello ! My name is Alix and i'm at the head of a Precious Plastic workplace on Koh rong Sanloem, a little island south of Cambodia. I'm working there with 2 other people for now and we're there since around 8 months (we're not Cambodian but french). In our workplace we have one shredder and one extrusion machine and for now we produce beams to build chairs and bench and recnetly we also created and ashtray mould that we use on the extrusion. We plan to build the injection machine next, and would be really happy to share with you what we have done, you can check on fb or instagram under our name, Trash is Nice. And also if you're around Cambodia and want to come and say hello, we would be really happy ! (: and you're all doing wonderful work it's amazing!!

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Chairs look great @Alix, nice work!

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjde3p/coke-and-pepsi-are-getting-sued-for-lying-about-recycling

Coke and Pepsi Are Getting Sued for Lying About Recycling

“At this rate, plastic is set to outweigh fish in the ocean by 2050,” the complaint reads.

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Time the industry paid up!

"Lying about recyclability" so does that means the bottles aren't pure #1?

I'm from Iowa, USA and I am interested in starting a workspace. First a shredder, then go from there. Would eventually like to make 3D sheets and boards to use for building purposes, but might start by making flatware and dishes to sell. Still budgeting to invest in my shredder but very excited to join the process!

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@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] It's more about creating the expectation that because something has a "chasing arrows" symbol on it, and you put in the right bin or bag, that "someone" (Father Christmas, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy) will recycle it for you. Someone probably won't.

The real solution is to add a tax on virgin plastic

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so that the recycled plastic is cheaper than the virgin stuff

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Then they will figure out how to reuse it

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The people will buy it. Then people will collect it.

Well, as I understand it (and I'm inclined to agree) the main bone of contention is the question of why consumers and taxpayers need to solve this problem, when the financial (and moral) burden should really be on the companies that flood the World with this crap.

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Go back to glass bottles, much more welcomed in the recycling stream

No matter what you do, the cost always comes back to the consumer. But by a government taxing the virgin plastic, it can use it to fund recycling programs (that could make money selling recycled plastic), it will at least get them to be cleaner in their business.

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It would help build the economy for recycled plastic.

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It needs something big to do this just because of the shear size of the plastic trash generated each year

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PP alone will nto change that enough

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or any grassroots movement

There are pros and cons to everything. Plastic is a financial "winner" because of the shipping weight. But our species survived for millennia without it. Thinking we can't, is to some extent a mindset. (edited)

There are somethings that need it, but many things would be better off made of metal or something more durable.

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But a company wants their product to break after so much use and be thrown away so you buy another one.

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If their thing last too long and can be repaired, you don't need to buy another one to replace it

The plastics in that category of goods are usually thermosets, so they can't be technically "recycled" by anyone. A slightly different conversation. But I'm aware of "planned obsolescence," and I'm against it. But on that level we are talking about restructuring modern civilization, as we know it. Also, a "slightly different" conversation.

It's a case of "picking your battles," so to speak. (edited)

I'm not much on licking battles

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It's an acquired taste.

I would imagine so.

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But companies are in business to make money and investors expect that to be the case. So that drives the companies to make as much as possible. It is a bad cycle. I try to pay more for quality items that will last (plastic or not).

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I would rather buy one higher priced plastic item that will last a long time than something cheap that I have to replace a lot.

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Hopefully at the end of its long life, I can recycle it with some newer plastic to make something useful

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I avoid products that have these planned obsolescence products

Most of it is e-waste. My computer is 14 years old. My tablet (that I'm typing on right now) is 5 years old. All my phones are pre-owned. But, eventually... there's no practical way around it.

Yes. I only bought my new phone because the other one died after 4-5 years. The motherboard and chip burned out. But I tend to buy new once it is time for a new one. That way I get the warranty and hopefully a long life. My computer is also 10 years or so old. But there are a few new things in it (hard drive and graphics card. I still ahve all my old computers and parts. I need to find a good recycling program for them.

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I hate throwing things into the landfill. I look at the landfills of the ancient ancestors and how little they were for the length and size of the area. They had to reuse and not waste

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too hard to come by the things they needed

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But as you say, there is no way around it int eh world we ahve created

Yes, but much shorter lives and smaller populations. You see how it "snowballs?" Everything needs a fundamental rethink.

Analysts are a saying that the World's human population will, all things remaining stable (based on historical precedents) "top out" at 11 billion. I'm sorry but I don't buy that. Not for a minute. But I'm sure all the wars over basic resources will "help out" with the population problem. Maybe "solve it" permanently, considering how many nukes are lying around and the fact that people clearly like to be led by angry, dumb, over-grown toddlers. (edited)

If you look at the developed nations, the populations are stalled or declining

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people having less kids

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so maybe they are taking into account the world becoming developed and everyone being educated and having well paying jobs

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the more educated the population, the more it seems to slow population growth

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as people postpone pregnancy or stop it altogether

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but countries like china and india are huge populations and i am not sure how soon they would slow down. but eventually there will not be enough food and other resources tro sustain a population

Yes, I understand their basic argument. I've watched the TED talks.

They're just wrong. The so-called "developed World" can only sustain itself by keeping the so-called "developing World" exactly like it is. (edited)

I don't think that is true, but it would be a different culture

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there would be no more cheap goods

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maybe then people would buy quality goods

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but my wife and i are educated and we have 4 kids. so we are not a good educated example

Ask the average African if it's true. I'll exclude myself, despite technically also being an African.

You think that the developed world wants them to stay poor?

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I doubt that. I reality, I doubt many even think about it.

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But companies would like them to stay that way for cheap labor

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If people knew they would lose cheap products they might care too

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But in general, I doubt they think about it until Sally Struthers comes on TV pleading for food for the hungry

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Not trying to be rude about it

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So you may be right in the view of developed world companies

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They think about that a lot. And where do they go when china is no longer cheap

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I want any hard worker to make a good living. No matter where they live. If someone is willing to work hard, they should be paid so they can live well

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I assume that looks different in various countries, but hard work and work ethic should be rewarded

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Maybe things will get better. But I do not know if it will.

Hey there, kinda new here and couldn't find the topic about the workspace calculator, got some questions about the file

Hello everyone, I am a brand new member and want to know if anyone knows how to convert plastics into an extruded rope? Thank you, Avanti

@🤙v4-team Another question on the "workspace calculator." Previous questions went unanswered. I don't even know what that is. Some clarity please?

@Arson: I think I see your understanding about Africa/developing countries from the TV point of view. Educated in the program of your politicians through the media. Ask developed countries why they subsidies maize farmers to export cheap maize which keeps farmers in Africa poor because they can't sell their locally grown maize at a competitive price.

lol

There are YouTube's of extruded rope making. It's somewhat complex, with several steps. I looked into it trying to bypass my baler twine annual expense. @alalwani. So the first step is polypropylene extrusion, here is an example. https://youtu.be/cHUwu9jGNsM Then once you have at least three balls of twine made, the second step is winding which there a hundreds of YouTube's from simple to complex. https://youtu.be/ba98GOaiqY0 https://youtu.be/c2XPKU8Txag Hope that helps

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@SIPP-Plastics We do subsidize farmers. It is a strategic move to keep the farmers employed and keep them farming. A country that depends on another country for their food is at their mercy. We do not want to be able to be controlled by another country or depend on someone else, ever. Especially in times of a war.

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Does that mean their is excess and it gets sold overseas to others? Most definitely. Does that mean that is the plan? I doubt it as they are always arguing about it in the government but no one wants to upset the farmers. I think it is more a secondary byproduct. It is used for the governement's advantage? Possibly. No idea as I am not that high up.

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But you look at China trade dispute and China is buying more pork to help ease the tensions. So who knows for sure

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Serious question, is it really cheaper to buy imported food than buy it local?

Yes Arson .... that's the reality.

Why is it that in a lower wage country it is cheaper to buy imported over producing. Isn't that the benefit of the lower wage?

Developed countries make a show with $Thousands in food programs....Only to subsidize food for exports with $Billions in disguise of supplying excessive demand but in actual sense it's to collapse local industry....

Our farm labor is mostly migrants as they often work for cash and is cheaper than getting citizens to do so. Plus most of the citizens are too lazy to want to work hard because the government will give them money not to work (grrr).

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I can say they pay us a certain amount (insurance) for our crops.

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In case something happens (too much rain, no rain, etc)

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They make sure we will get a minimum payment to cover our costs so we don't go broke if we have a bad season or two.

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Otherwise, it is a major risk with the cost of equipment

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We farm, so I know.

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But we are a smaller farm. Most of the farmers like us are dying off. Most are bought up by big companies. It is mostly a commercial industry with a few big players.

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So they many be getting big payouts, but we do not.

I get you..... The truth you aren't told...most of these migrates were farmers back home.....but had to migrate because of the influx of subsidized goods which are cheap...hence getting them out of business. There has to be a fair ground.....most developing countries are 100years younger than most developed countries.

I agree. Is it a lack of infrastructure? A lack of knowledge? Lack of support? What makes farming work in other countries but not others?

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Yes, US and developed countries have equipment that makes it more efficient. What other things make it hard for locals?

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At $4 a bushel, 40 bushels per acre, that is only $160 per acre

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depending on your land, fertilizer, and crop you grow you may get more or less per acre. But that is a good ballpark number. Then you take out all your expenses. You need to farm a lot of acres.

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If you sell at a farmers market, you can get more for your crop. But selling bulk commodity, it isn't great. I assumed locals in other countries can do the same. But it seems you are saying they can't.

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Can the government support agriculture in those countries like we do? Or is it a matter of deciding what is more important to subsidize? I have seen a number subsidize gasoline and other goods. Do they do so instead of agriculture? Because food is already cheap?

@Frederik C (ZA) I can answer the workspace calculator questions - which one are you referencing ?

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Ahh I see - @JABA' what's your question?

has anyone seen those small backyard rollercoasters? just a random spitball idea is making modular "kiddy coaster" pieces. Like nothing extreme but something fun for parents to push their toddlers through.

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Like playground equipment in general would be a good application for playing equipment that can be setup indoors, like gymborees, daycare centers, community centers.

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Make the peices with precious plastic, grow the set, rent it out on daily/weekly and lease it to other organizations.

I think jungle gym type stuff could probably work, because it's often made from wood, so why not? The mechanics of those rides would require a lot of metal, I'm guessing. Many extra safety issues too. It's a very tricky product type to get into.

unless you are looking at like train pieces

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like the thomas train sets but bigger

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no hills and stuff. just flat track

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that locks together

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could work

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or at least tunnels to go through

I just remembered I had a modular plastic jungle gym and slide in the backyard, when I was small. The pipes just stuck together with T-connectors. Not sure if it was thermoset plastic. As I recall, it was like thick-walled PVC pipes. I haven't noticed those playsets in many years. Not sure if they are still made.

I imagine you won't find it much anymore, because it's been replaced with much more elaborate and complicated form-factors, like this:

However, there are more limits to customization with that type of design. You can't really lower or raise it, depending on how young the kids are.

Yeah like I said it's for young children. The idea of something like a bounce house. Something someone could reasonably rent for a special occassion and be simple to assemble.

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2-5 with supervision, 6-8 on their own, and the cut off being around 70-80lbs

Without big, high-pressure machines, I'm guessing it's a very labour intensive product. With a whole lot of polishing.

That's a good point I was planning on using a setup that uses two of these power cubes with 25 hp electric motors to power the hydraulics. https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Power_Cube (edited)

Power Cube

not sure if that's enough

Ahh I see - @JABA' what's your question?

@Joseph Hey joseph, so in the sales section i got a list of 50 products, but in the dashboard i can o,ly insert price and quantity for just 14 item, and when i tried to rearrange the board , the fonctions got wierd and i start to get errors in the calculations, so how can i calculate it for let's say 50 item ? thanks

hi @JABA' yes the sheet is only setup for you to test about 10 products. I would recommend starting with those first, then seeing if they are profitable and moving on to other products. The sheet calculations won't work if you move things around

Hello everyone! My name is Glenn, I am a 30 year old guy from near Antwerp, Belgium. After having an idea to make something, I started researching about if my idea was already out there and if it was patented. Next I decided to check out how I would have to go about producing. Then I thought about how it would be even better devoloping it with recycled plastics. Because it’s a product that would be made to clean up garbage and recycle it, the circle would be complete! The product itself I would make completely out of recycled materials, including the packaging even maybe? So I could be starting a business, make money of that and be helping the environment. Maybe by even adding a donation of a determined percentage from the profits to environmental causes, like I have seen in other companies as well. I came a cross some injection-molding companies who work with recycled plastics and wondered if, aside from letting prototype parts print in 3D, I couldn't just make them myself. That's how Google brought me here. So for me right now, the pieces of the puzzle are all coming together! I happened to apply just before for a job as a garbage collector. Now I will start working there this week, with the option to switch between garbage collection, sorting and possibly processing. So I will get the chance to really roll into it, learn all about it and make connections to support the company that I’ll be trying to build after work. As I’ll be working from 6 am to 2 pm, I’ll still have plenty of time to do that after my day job. That’s the time I will be using to collect, connect, build the machines and try developing my product. So that about sums it all up. Now you guys already know a little about me and what my plan is. Just a guy with an idea! I am really excited to connect with all of you and make our planet a better place! Glenn

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hello everybody i have dowloaded precious-plastic-starterkit-machine-master.zip file from the website and when i try to extract the file i am asked for a password for example one of the message " FIle LCD.SLDPRT is password protected" so can somebody heplp me and write me here what is the password so i to be able to extract the whole archive

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hi @JABA' yes the sheet is only setup for you to test about 10 products. I would recommend starting with those first, then seeing if they are profitable and moving on to other products. The sheet calculations won't work if you move things around

@Joseph thank you

@Frederik C (ZA) stuff like that is also done by rotation moulding

Big, expensive machines, nonetheless. Tough for "home-based," micro-manufacturing setups. Maybe doable with very large sheet presses and reshaping with heat-guns. But then you've got structural integrity issues. Not easy. Maybe more doable with the truck-sized DIY 3D-printers some folks are working on. But still... don't expect to compete with the big manufacturers. For older kids I would look at racing go-karts or bumper cars. (All-electric, maybe solar-powered.) (edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) this is pretty cool, not so hi tech... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUkk5th7ORw

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HDPE plastic kudam making, plastic kudam manufcturing, plastic pots...

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hdpe from milk jugs is better suited to this kind of blow moulding as it already has the right mix of additives compared to bottle tops which are injected and go runny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvxWSCWkyow

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HDPE container making..

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this is encouraging :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsFKxQWujzM (edited)

Recycling Process

HDPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfHIRNnq0lQ

Replas

The Pull Through Effect

7:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA6TvZKL2Ak

Jude Pullen

Recycle Plastic Milk Jugs - for Vacuum Forming (With Mayku Formbox ...

@Timberstar Wow... infodump much?

I'll take a look. I like the jugs that look like peppermints.

I thought I was decent with technology but I'm struggling with using Figment to create the logo

Problem solved. Idk why but the desktop version kept sending me to the browser version, and my fonts weren't installed yet (didn't know you had to physically open them first) so I couldn't get past editing on step 2

Hey! I'm new to this Discord server, and Precious Plastic in general so I'm not sure if this is the right place for this but hear me out...My name is Leah Callahan, and I am a senior Photography major and Creative Writing minor at Ringling College of Art and Design. I am currently working on my senior thesis regarding environmentalism, mainly trash, and was wondering if anyone would be willing to collaborate with me. A brief rundown of my project is taking documentary photographs of trash and discarded objects around Sarasota and collecting the garbage afterward to create something new out of it. My thought for your collaboration is to create photo frames out of the plastic trash that I collect. I want to use the frames to showcase my thesis work at the end of the year. If this is something that interests you, please don't hesitate to reach out. I can be reached by email at leah@leahcallahanphoto.com and lcallaha@c.ringling.edu and by phone at 813.351.9509. Thank you so much for your consideration!

8:39 PM

Basically, I have been going around Sarasota taking documentary photos of trash and discarded objects (plastic being the main focus) and collecting the items that I photograph. I want to create recycled plastic photo frames (sizes TBD) for my thesis. Please don't hesitate to reach out to me. My personal instagram is @leahc_xoxox and my photo instagram is @lcallahan967

Did the thing: made the logo, updated profile, and placed a pin

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9:24 PM

Thanks for the support

@Frederik C (ZA)

Comic book joke: The only one who ever regretted "Doing The Thing" was Sue Storm.

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Sue a storm? How does one take legal action against the weather?

I've only seen legal in-action. It's called climate change denial.

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9:34 PM

And it actually was the premise of a British comedy film called The Man Who Sued God.

This is from a collection called "Unpopular Culture." It's the 90s "environmental superhero" Captain Planet. He was going to stop all the baddies polluting the Earth. It didn't turn out so great... Whoopi Goldberg was one of the voices in the cartoon. (edited)

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Also from "Unpopular Culture": I've added a spoiler to this one, because it might ruin your childhood. It's that moment you realise your friend, Barney, is a carnivore...

SPOILER

I need to watch Captain Planet. It was aired before my time

I watched it in my Grade School days. I liked it. I found out in adulthood it was created by Ted Turner. Probably full of pro-corporate propaganda. But that would have gone over my head, back then. The silver-blue dude could fly and smash big machines. Good enough for me.

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My friend's not a carnivore. He's just a good neighbour...

@leahcxoxox Ask in #🍔north-america.

@Frederik C (ZA) I will, thank you for the tip!

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https://newnaratif.com/comic/red-hot-red-dot-the-climate-crisis-and-singapore/

Red Hot Red Dot: The Climate Crisis and Singapore - New Naratif

How will the climate crisis affect the city-state of Singapore? A comic explainer produced in collaboration with IdeasCity.

hello im new anyone for a chat.i cant download the "download kit v4"

@3B8HO bryan Maybe here:? https://github.com/ONEARMY/precious-plastic-kit/releases/tag/V4.1

thanks @Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto i could not find the circuit diagram of the shredder and the blade dimension in the starter kit

@3B8HO bryan basic shredder or shredder pro?

basic shredder

Look in the 5mm Laser files for the blades. You like to laser cut them?

8:54 AM

Circuit diagram: https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/the-big-electronics-topic/ I think this is the basic/easy way. The pros can correct me;)...

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto thanks

9:11 AM

the download stop abruptly in the middle

@3B8HO bryan Mabe try a smaller download: https://cutt.ly/starterkit-injection

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto it suceeded downloading

@3B8HO bryan Happy building then

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto is there starter kit for shredder?

here's btw. a better choice for the Arduino (auto-reverse,...) : https://www.controllino.biz/product/controllino-mini/. This saves you from extra relays and have way better connections (EDS), as well they take 12-24 Volts. We use them now as standard. Also, those seem to be more stable to intercept the overload signal from cheaper VFDs - so you don't need actually any extra sensor....

10:51 AM

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Is it still useful to search for people to collaborate in your own area using the old map? That’s the only place you can find people who want to get started, right?

@3B8HO bryan It´s more for the big shredder, but see what you can use: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-a-shredder-workspace https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/showcase/shredder.html (edited)

Is it still useful to search for people to collaborate in your own area using the old map? It could be, but there's no way to tell. Many accounts are inactive, because many people gave up or lost interest since 2017. For those who still get push e-mails from the forum, they might see your messages... eventually. But it's a dice roll.

@Frederik C (ZA) Yeah that's what I already thought. So other than here on discord, there's not really an option anymore for people who want to get started to connect with eachother? I got 2 answers from those I've send a message so at least it's progress

Two is pretty good!

You have to be "selective," because of all the thousands of "groupies" who want to get into this glamorous recycling gig.

We should try to convince people who don't have a role yet to hit the member reaction >.> quite a bit of white names scrolling through the side section

All we need is your credit card number...

No, seriously there's no obligation. Do it! Do it!

#🖐start-here Lets see if we can get the member reactions

️ to 300 by this time tomorrow. It usually gains 1-2 per day; 15 in one day might be a stretch, but we have the people power for it! (edited)

@Deleted User That's 119 euros. You get what you pay for though.

Im sure this beats my two contactor + ssr setup.

Hi everyone! I am a university student putting together a recycling proposal for our city, and I was just wondering if anyone would be able to tell me how much lumber the Extrusion machine produces in an hour and what the rough cost is to run it each hour? We are looking to recommend technologies that will convert HDPE and LDPE into useful products, such as lumber, for park benches and playgrounds in the city.

Hi everyone, this is Mohan from India Andhra Pradesh

5:48 AM

can some one please suggest how to make an extraction machine

hey all, I am wanting to purchase the stamps precious plastic stamps for the different plastics when the job has been done in the coins, could someone please post the link, Thank you

This is one of the options @mohankadium https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/extrusion Stamps are here @Bodaciouswha1e https://newbazar.preciousplastic.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=141

Extras :: Precious Plastic Stamps

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thank you very much

Just watched the monthly news 30 (I have been a bit out of the loop, and trying to catch up), and saw that they stopped looking into styrofoam recycling. Have anyone here looked into the research that mealworms breaks down styrofoam?

11:12 AM

Also, is the Bazar down or is it only me? I get an "you found nothing" error

@Emil The new bazar (https://newbazar.preciousplastic.com/) is down at the moment, but for the old one go here: https://oldbazar.preciousplastic.com/

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@mohankadium hi Mohan how are you. Good to more and more people from India

12:28 PM

@mohankadium you can download the files, source the parts, find a local builder or build on your own by referencing the videos and get to making the Extrusion Machine

@Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug , well, we choose because mainly of saving time for wiring and mounting creepy stuff on DIN rails

if the wires and enclosure are good, there shouldn't be much trouble

I love this idea, but does anyone actually make decent money doing this?

@GidTheKid Do you mean in terms of precious plastic as a whole? There seems to be multiple sources of revenue, if you're creative. I myself will likely use it for teaching kids about sustainability, and while i won't be rich, it will pay a salary. So it all depends on what you mean by decent money

Hello everyone I am in the process of trying to get a Machine Shop setup in the Southwest corner of the USA and just wanted to stop by, familiarize myself with Discord and the program and simply say hi. This is a great idea and I would love to be one of the people that helps to get this going all over the USA. I have collaborated with others in my area that have some equipment almost ready to go and and they have room for a Workspace so that will be the next step for me with Precious Plastic, to help get their machines running and get some hands on experience. I am very excited to be involved and hope I can be of service in the USA to help get this going as we have a massive plastic problem. I decided to make a Machine Shop as I don't see a lot of them in the USA and feel that one of the first steps will be to make machines available as without the machines the rest of the work is in vain. So Hola! from the great Southwest corner of the USA! (edited)

@Richard Perkins Welcome! I can only imagine how awesome it is for Dave Hakkens to see people from all over the world joining something he started. Let's try making the world a slightly more decent place

@Emil Thanks for the welcome! He has a great idea and has provided so much information that it's hard not to want to get onboard. The tools provided for free are just awesome (and I have only touched the tip of the iceberg at this point) and I feel it is a worthy cause as plastic recycling is a big problem in my town so I want to do my part to help. With the tools and resources provided it was a no-brainer to jump right in and start working on this.

For sure! Will you be having any of the machines yourself, or will you focus on producing them for others?

My goal is to start producing them for others so we get the infrastructure we need in the USA to get up and running. When I first saw the idea I thought I would be able to find a couple machines and get going rather quickly but was surprised to find that there aren't very many of them available here. With a background in industrial machine repair/installation and electrical work and with a buddy that has some of the tools we would need for metal working I thought that would be a good place to start.

It definetely is! If i was from the states, i would buy them from you! I am currently looking into buying the 3 pro models myself

@Emil Hey, you might be able to answer a question for me... I plan on calling my company Precious Plastic Southwest. I have looked and have not seen that we cannot use the Precious Plastic name. Do you know if it's okay to use the name in such a manner?

8:35 PM

And logo? They provide a blank logo in the kit so I thought with the open source design that it would be okay.

While i can't say for sure, i don't think it would be a problem. It is an open source project, and if anything, it only helps to spread the word. At least that is my opinion. And as you say, they let you use their logo

That's what I thought too but I wanted to bounce it off someone with a little more experience. Makes sense to me.

In this video they talk about how to set it up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXzcRQNe-hc

How to make a Business Plan on plastic recycling Part #3

8:40 PM

They mention that you can use their logo, but don't mention wether you can use the name or not

8:41 PM

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A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

8:41 PM

But if you take a look at their map, naming your place "precious plastic" + location is not uncommon

8:41 PM

So i wouldn't worry about it

Awesome! I will check it out. The logo in the kit has their name embeded so I am going to assume that it is okay to spread their name which is what I wanted to do anyway so others would know that we are not a general machine shop but a shop that builds Precious Plastic branded machines.

Makes perfect sense to me

Thank you for your input, you have been a huge help.

Happy to help! I have been following the project for a long time, but only on the side line. Now with version 4, joining in is more easy than ever, so i think i will finally dip my toes in the water and join the movement.

8:45 PM

Out of interest, do you know of any people in your area yet that could be interested?

Yes sir! As soon as I put my Facebook page up I got a message that a lady has been waiting for someone in the USA that is making the machines and I just met with some other folks that almost have a working extrusion machine and shredder and they have a working hand powered injection machine and a few molds. I will be working with them to get their equipment running however neither piece the shredder nor the extrusion machine is of Precious Plastic design, ie. Shredder Pro etc. so I will help them so we can have a proof of concept workspace running to prove that the idea is a viable one to our local town who is also very interested and has promised grant money if they can prove their concept. IF I help them I feel they will help me to get my machine shop up and running as they want to be a collection point more than a Machine Shop and they want to provide their machines to others in the community that want to come in and use them for various projects.

That is AWESOME to hear! Really great. Remember to keep us updated

I will do that for sure.

And remember to join the Bazar!

I have done that as well and am waiting for my pin to be approved. It seems the new bazar is down so I just went and joined the old bazar and will keep watching for the new bazar to come back up.

Yup, the new bazar is down, let us hope it is up soon

I can't wait to get my machines up and running, it is gonna be super fun to produce some nice items!

Hi, i need your help. who have the blueprint of internal machine parts ? (The cut of 3, 5 and 6 mm) The cuts exactly and measurements

10:17 PM

for example

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10:17 PM

Hey everyone

I am 100% new to the PP world. I have been interested in it for a while, ever since I stumbled across the website a few years back, but life definitely was not going to let me start something like this at the time. It had other cards to deal me. Now I am going to try and start it.

My brother said he can help with some welding and such, but as far as most of the machine parts, we are both in the dark on who to turn to. I’d love to set up a Facebook page and get more local community help, but I am at a loss for proper wording to get the help I am looking for. Gotta start somewhere I guess! I’m from Northern Mn and I cannot wait to start this journey!

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@Shandy check the bazaar for the parts you're looking for. If you can't find them, or don't like the price/shipping, you can provide a local fabrication or laser cutting shop with the files included in the starter kits for a quote, which is usually free. Some might not be interested in small orders, but if you're there in person, you can show them the bazaar, and they might be interested in running a batch to sell on the bazaar, or on commission through you.

@Trukku (Ohio, USA) I have no idea if there is a local fabrication or laser cutting shop in our area... But we do have this thing called a makerspace. It is a place where people can pay a membership fee to use different types of equipment and make things. Hmm maybe I will send them the specs of what I am looking for and see if it is something that can be made there.

@Shandy I'm running my machine shop out of a makerspace, and if they have the equipment, there's probably someone very interested in taking your commission. You'd likely also be able to find someone interested in PP, so you might want to consider joining, or asking the owner if you can put up a flyer.

@Trukku (Ohio, USA) thats awesome! I think my cousin is a member. I’ll have to look into it!

@Shandy they usually list their equipment on their website, so that can give you a better idea.

What equipment should I be looking for. Remember, 100% new to this! Lol

Laser cutter, waterjet, or 2/3 axis CNC will technically all work. If nothing else, it looks like there are at least half a dozen cutters around Duluth/Superior.

4:40 AM

They might have trouble sourcing metric metals if they aren't supplied out of the Chicago area, but a few members are working on imperial conversions.

@Sergio.beltran There are no blueprints for the laser parts, just files for laser cutting, so your laser guy just needs them. And see also the update: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/shredder-21

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@Richard Perkins Hi l wish to start a work shop in ukraine, but l don't know we're to get those machines, and. l want to know how much this project can cost me.

@Lukeman. John the precious plastic bazar ( it is a website marketplace) is down at the moment but the moment it is up you can look on it the machines manufacturers in your area. Im pretty sure a guy from Russia is selling machines there, is that is cheap to you for transportation. All the machines there have their price listed there so you get a clear idea of how much it'll cost to set up shop

@sharma.sagar94 please can l have the contact of the guy from Russia

@Lukeman. John https://oldbazar.preciousplastic.com/en/listings/913189-4-machines

4 MACHINES for €3,500 per Set by Roman N on Precious Plastic Bazar

8:24 AM

@Lukeman. John you can find him here, he has listed his WhatsApp number, you can contact him, very helpful guy

@Richard Perkins If you go through the logo creator process on the site, they mention ideally that calling a site by its location is better reserved for community points

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@sharma.sagar94 Have you bought stuff from Roman?

I was kinda interested in the filament extruder (or puller, or what it is called), but noticed that all of his pictures seems to be renders. So i just wanted to hear if others had interacted with him before going further

Ok Bazar back up guys ! sorry for the downtime

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@Emil I haven't bought anything but I interacted with him, he is very helpful and send all the pics and videos of machines that are required. I don't think all his pics are renders, all the v3 pics are his own which he has made the machines (he also sent me videos), v4 pics are from the download kit ( I guess he hasn't made them yet but his workshop seems equipped to make them ). Just one machine which is a combo is a render on his listing as far as I found.

@sharma.sagar94 Thank you kindly, it is my mistake then!

He was the first who popped up on the Bazar, and he does seem to have some nice products, with some fair prices.

Old Bazar platform can be accessed at oldbazar.preciousplastic.com

@sharma.sagar94 l have. speak with him, l want to ask it is any way the finish product to be one colour

Hi people. Would you say that it is possible to use the extrusion pro machine as an injection moulder for smaller pieces, or will i have to also buy/ make the standalone injection moulder? I would like to do as much as possible with the 3 pro machines

Hi. Has anyone tried remoulding acetal/POM using PreciousPlastic-designed machines?

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] Thanks for that. I have decided to leave it the way it is as I will probably end up not only being a machine shop but may take on other roles as my area needs to be successful such as a collection point or community point so I think I will leave the name so I can cover all of those aspects when the time comes.

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Hi all, Does anyone have any experience with acetate for making sheets and beams?

@Lukeman. John the output of the extruder is one color mostly because it melts and fuses together the color of the input plastic Watch here https://youtu.be/j85TPjYRezI

Precious Plastic - 3D printer Filament maker

8:33 PM

@Emil i guess yes since the brick made from extruder pro are technically 'moulded' buy I haven't tried it yet so its an (un)educated gues at this point

@sharma.sagar94 Thank you! That would be my best guess as well. I would imagine that it could be a bit hard to push a small enough amount into the mould, but it would be lovely to hear from someone who have tried it

@Richard Perkins Once you get multiple roles/aspects up and running, a "mixed workspace" may be a better descriptor :) (edited)

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Took my first step and created a pin on the map! Also started a FB page to get some community members involved!

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last week the map for the virus was rather empty : https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

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It also only shows large clusters and not single reported cases, although the table on the page seems to be up to date. So, that creates a distorted view. Our first case in South Africa was reported yesterday. And, unfortunately, it was an airline passenger that returned from Italy a few days ago. So, there will be others. That's guaranteed. We didn't have much impact from the previous SARS. But this time, it seems to be different.

It actually points to 'sources' for each new amount. I found some other maps (https://hn.algolia.com/?q=corona+virus) but they had way less details.

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Up till now, the "security measure" at airports has been to check skin temperature with a IR thermometer. Yeah... brilliant...

You could save lives with cotton swabs, but, hey... let's not inconvenience anyone.

I bet they haven't bothered to sanitize the buckets

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Is the Bazar down again?

@Emil It seems to be working for me at this link: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/index.php

Plastice to sell products, machines, and plastic. Empowering our recycling ecosystem around the world.

@Richard Perkins Cool, that link works for me as well, thank you!

My pleasure.

Hello folks

, My name is Dave , I am from a beautiful state in India called Goa. Me and a couple of my friends are starting a waste management company. Starting off with just handling plastic waste . We also make bricks and pavers from waste . Excited to be part of the community. Cheers

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@capt_killer_puss Welcome Dave!

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What masks does everyone wear? Is there a specific mask anyone would recommend?

@durack Precious plastic recommends these from 3m

9:34 PM

I believe it just have to have a filter with activated carbon, and there is likely several manufacturers

9:34 PM

Check this out https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety

JSP Force 8 Press To Check Replacement Twin Filters ABEK1P3

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@capt_killer_puss cheers Dave! Good luck

and welcome

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Awesome! Thanks @Emil

@durack No issue, happy to help!

Any idea where to buy that mask out of interest? Or what search terms to use - 3m carbon filtered mask is bringing it up

i would just search for 3m gas mask, they have them in every hardware store

10:12 PM

Just make sure teat the filters filter out the right stuff

normally for plastic you would want voc filters

@evanh3103 Thank you Evan, you seem to know more about it than me

what I have is one of these https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwiMuvWa44boAhWJse0KHbd0BiYYABAcGgJkZw&sig=AOD64_1HMRMCs8pd3AeleSk7w8wUihql5w&ctype=46&q=&ved=0ahUKEwi09_Ca44boAhUQUcAKHSMqCnEQ2CkIjAM&adurl= with these filters https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=DChcSEwiMuvWa44boAhWJse0KHbd0BiYYABAEGgJkZw&sig=AOD64_0ZYxIf8B73jNzfxLWgpmhu8U9x9g&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwi09_Ca44boAhUQUcAKHSMqCnEQwjwICQ&adurl=

P242R

You guys are awesome- thank you very much

Hey everyone! How many kg (roughly) of shredded hdpe or ldpe would be required to extrude a 2x4 beam?

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hello everyone, im juan and i really want to build the shredder and start to recycle plastic but im from argentina ( if you ask why my english sucks) and close to my city i dont have any place to sell the crushed plastic, the nearest place is 100km away.. and i need to know how many km/h can produce the the basic shredder!

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i need to know how many km/h can produce the the basic shredder Rather kilograms per hour, I assume.

Nah he's gonna fire the pellets into a truck maybe?

@Venomax The pro model should be able to shred 50 kg of plastic per hour

(edited)

Hey guys, I've not connected to the Bazar since about a month ago, and have now seen there is a new bazar page - however would like to know if all our old profiles have been deleted? I cannot log in at the new page, and I had made a purchase from another user... so have just realised how to access the old bazar, but question still stands, our profiles will have to be recreated for the new bazar..?

@Andymid : yes, I am afraid

The pro model should be able to shred 50 kg of plastic per hour But the question was for the basic shredder (V4 I assume). And with the motor recommended in the basic blueprints, I assume. Who has "real-world" average numbers on that (based on tests)?

Hey guys , I have a few questions for everyone . Would you'll be interested in knowing the whole lifecycle of your waste (from your bins to the recycle centers , or even further : into what products they will be recycled)? Also would you like to know the stats of the waste you generate ? Imagine you waste collector provides this, for a small fee. Would you be willing to pay for it ? Let me know , thanks :)

@Jonah Ferguson : @Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug made a calculator : 'Extruded Beam Cost Generator' -> https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/resources

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@capt_killer_puss Part of the problem with that, is that there's already significant "bad faith" about the recycling "product chain" because the commercial plastics industry has been so dishonest. Expecting people to "take your word for it" and pay for information on top of it, seems like a big stretch to me. Unless there is some kind of blockchain-based auditing system involved. That has been the approach of Plastic Bank. Although I am sceptical of their over-all model, the blockchain supply-chain auditing is, in principle, a good idea. But they have the juggernaut of IBM infrastructure to supply the network and maintain the smartphone apps that the system relies on. Easier said than done. (edited)

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@capt_killer_puss short answer would be No I (read: average person) wouldn't like to know what happens to their trash as long as they know it is being recycled ( read: taken care of) so they question of paying extra money to hear a story doesn't arise. As for the stats of my waste bin, what purpose does it serve me that I will pay money for it. People don't even like to pay for the entertainment content they enjoy on Netflix so they torrent, would they really would like a piechart about their waste bin?

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Well, in the Plastic Bank system, it's actually big companies that foot the bill, because they pay an added premium (per kg) for post-consumer plastic. In return they are certified to put the Plastic Bank "Social Plastic" logo on their packaging. The question is: Do consumers care? The whole idea is to make them care.

Thanks for info and honest feedback @Frederik C (ZA) @sharma.sagar94

8:08 PM

Well, in the Plastic Bank system, it's actually big companies that foot the bill, because they pay an added premium (per kg) for post-consumer plastic. In return they are certified to put the Plastic Bank "Social Plastic" logo on their packaging. The question is: Do consumers care? The whole idea is to make them care.

@Frederik C (ZA) yeah I agree keeping the people in the loop and making them care is necessary

8:08 PM

Never heard of Plastic Bank , will def check em out

8:12 PM

So in India a major chunk of recycling is due to the informal sector which are a bunch of low income folks that go door to door and paying for recyclables per kilo. But it's not very organized. Though in the recent years some peeps have been trying to bring some amount of organization into that sector.

Yes, same in South Africa. They call themselves Waste Pickers or Reclaimers. They have been forming "bargaining councils," of sorts. They can't unionize, because they work as independent "contractors," so to speak.

I don't have any definitive links on Plastic Bank. I haven't yet researched it as thoroughly as I wanted to. But I know they have been running a pilot project in the slums of Haiti. Basically employing young people to collect plastic from the "trash mountains" that have formed on the edges of the slums (similar to South Africa.) Organising in the informal sectors in the slums (here and elsewhere) is only possible now, because many people who have not been properly schooled, and/or have never touched a computer in their lives, can now connect with each other due to access to (relatively) cheap smartphones (black market or otherwise).

Do you guys know which organisation is actually in charge of the plastic labeling? Like, who has decided upon the 7 symbols that we use to identify plastic? Do you think it would be possible to add QR coded to plastic products in the future, so we can use image recognition to identify the types of plastic?

@Emil https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code ASTM International

Resin identification code

The ASTM International Resin Identification Coding System, often abbreviated RIC, is a set of symbols appearing on plastic products that identify the plastic resin out of which the product is made. It was developed in 1988 by the Society of the Plastics Industry (now the Plast...

Lovely, thank you @Deleted User !

"ASTM International... founded by Doctor Evil, a wholly-owned subsidiary of The Legion Of Doom, a division of The Sinister Six, member of the Spectre Group."

Hello fellow humans, If you were given a block of land and wanted to make a community only using wood and the precious plastics machines. What machines would you need/want so you can build and create a place to live? Geodomes, sheets and beams first come to mind so of course those but anything else come to mind? Thanks Adz.

anything else come to mind? Depends entirely on what resources are available and what they cost. Fresh water is usually the first issue. And much of the world is running out of it. So, water purification and extraction devices? Probably high on the priority list. If the wood is free (unlikely), you obviously use mostly that. If not, trash is your building material, because trash becomes free the moment someone designates it as "garbage" and chucks it out.

Yeah good point, we have a few earthships and unlimited supply to old car tyers and hdpe plastic. With those as the main building materials we should be good. Would it be better to use the sheets like slate tiles when building a wall or to make the bricks for walls in your option?

Not sure. Again, it depends on who the main users are. Bricks are more versatile for modular construction. People can make their own floor plans. Domes are faster to construct, but less customizable. But if you make your own panels, you can customize as needed. Either way, not needing special cranes or trucks, is a big bonus. Also, if pieces fit in standard shipping sizes, or can be collected, piece by piece, with regular vehicles. I'm looking into a modular, solid dome design, right now, actually.

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Congratulations to all women on International Women's Day!

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/lithuania-steals-crown-for-best-european-recycler/

Hey guys! What do you people do with the PET products that you collect? It seems pretty hard to recycle, but what is the alternative? I obviously don't want to throw it out again, so there must be some way to use it

2:38 PM

Also, this link seem to be down, does anyone know how to contact the people behind the website? https://cutt.ly/starterkit-shredder

Hello! One way might be giving to recycle centers. But look for other ways too.

6:04 PM

This might be challenging but https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/pet-ropes-and-filaments-making-v4/ Take a look

Yann

V4 PET solutions - [ROPES & FILAMENTS] - Dave Hakkens

Hi guys ! Yann here, I already posted on “Finding a solution for PET” topic, but as the rope making takes a lot of experiement by itself, we decided to create a separate topic. So - Dave Hakkens

Okay community it's time to step-up and help a fellow Precious Plastic member get some exposure. Please go put a simple like on my USA Facebook page for Precious Plastic Southwest. The more exposure we get the better chance we have of being successful at this program. If you put a like on my page I'll put a like on yours, I don't mind reciprocating. Leave your link for others to like in a reply. https://facebook.com/preciousplasticsw/

@Richard Perkins I gave you a like, but don't have a page myself yet, so don't worry about it

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@Emil Thank you! I sure appreciate it.

No issue, you can pay be back by providing good content

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Could I post a survey here for a class project?

12:55 AM

It is plastic related based on this whole thing. Just introducing it to a bunch of people and need some survey info.

If the survey is an external link, I don't see why not. I wouldn't recommend voting with emojis. But you could try and see how it goes.

It's just a google survey. (edited)

1:38 AM

https://forms.gle/9AorWGaCkEwasuci7

Plastic Recycling Survey

Information for Entr450 project ^_^ Ty for helping!

1:38 AM

I'm sure everyone here recycles but shhh lol.

1:38 AM

I just need some extra data lol.

Is it too late to change the questions?

Is it too late to fix the one where you have the No before the Yes?

2:52 AM

and the blank with 2 questions but 1 answer spot

@Frederik C (ZA) I didn't pick the questions.

3:09 AM

I was sick the day my group did.

3:10 AM

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] oh idk probably. I was just told to get the survey out.

3:10 AM

let me look quick

3:10 AM

I guess if people aren't reading they may just hit the wrong one.

I did it already, was just being nit-picky

I appreciate it

was just being nit-picky Me too.

It's okay.

School is closed because of the virus...

4:07 AM

I can't make, and sell

4:08 AM

I will be helping people for now...

I wish my school would close. They brought everyone back from Italy and closed one campus, told them to self quarantine for 14 days which also falls on spring break. (edited)

4:31 AM

I'm moving so for me it's a selfish want lol.

4:31 AM

We just had our first case though so it won't be for awhile if it does at all. I like to think people will be responsible and stay home.

same case over here

Let's just stay healthy

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Realistically, I think the elderly and people who are already at high risk for anything else already are the ones to be worried.

5:23 AM

My mom has immunity issues so I'm worried about her since there are so many cases in Georgia.

5:23 AM

Then again, what's stopping her from catching anything else that can take her down either? Idk.

5:26 AM

I hope you all stay healthy though and wash your hands. ;D

5:26 AM

I don't use tiktok but someone sent this to me and it was super cute

5:26 AM

https://www.tiktok.com/@aopanda_ao/video/679607750262530381

5:27 AM

(It's just a cartoon about washing hands)

Hola, from Honduras. Very interesting site. Starting to recolect to build the machines. Adios

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I'm planning on collecting a bunch of litter tomorrow. Will post after-pics, and here is another before-pic.

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] good job man

7:04 PM

tag me for the after

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Last time I brought a shopping bag and ended up finding more to make it 3 grocery bags of stuff. This time it will be more like 5 kitchen bags.

7:07 PM

I did some surveying of the area to come up with that estimate, and I'm going to get some... interesting items.

I found more green circular plastic but they were bottlecaps and not eco tokens like last time

BTW, Dave... You know another thing that really helps to cut down on travelling? Poverty. Works like a bomb. Also stops you getting fat. Beats any diet. Double whammy, baby! Whoow! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! Yeah!

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9:07 PM

Also, -17°C is not a real temperature. It doesn't exist. You just made that up. "Fake news!"

Hello there!

10:14 PM

I'm new here

10:14 PM

But adore the project

10:14 PM

Currently making my masters degree related to a polymer composite

10:15 PM

So maybe i can contribute something to this amazing community

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10:15 PM

Welcome @Sam Stark ! Make sure to hit the member reaction on the #🖐start-here channel to give your name a fancy(ish) color :)

New recruits, just remember: In the Precious Plastic Army, when it comes to the question of "Are you sane?", we have a "Don't ask, don't tell" policy. That's pretty much how I got in.

being sane seems overrated

12:22 AM

feels like home

being sane seems overrated Not so much "overrated," as "unfashionable." In my country it was "insane" (not to mention illegal) not to be a Nazi, for almost 50 years. I know how deep the rabbit hole goes. (edited)

If you think you're crazy, just remember the v4 team wrote "plastic recycling cult" on their window ;)

2:00 AM

which is both amazing and hilarious

2:02 AM

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That's actually a bit of an inside joke related to disagreements on the forums. But Dave has a good sense of humour. So, it makes sense.

@Deleted User not the after-photo yet since collecting is tomorrow but I also found a regulation size basketball today and rescued it from the riverbank

Nature provides its bountiful treasure... But golf balls don't grow on trees like tennis balls and frisbees. No, golf balls grow and must be harvested underwater. Y'know... Like pearls. (edited)

I also found a tennis ball but without the fuzz

Ah, yes. A rare disease called Alopecia Bullshiticus that affects the tennis ball tree under certain weather conditions, and causes the ripened ball to fall from the tree, prematurely, without it's characteristic fuzz. The scourge of many a tennis ball farmer. I'm so glad I believe everything on the internet without question. I learn so much. (edited)

lol

Hello, I am interested in translating some videos or documents to Japanese. I have never seen anyone do it, plus my school is closed so I can help with some stuff. The forum https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/translating-our-content/page/3/ is not accepting replies anymore, so I came here. Anyone know how to get started?

[Precious Plastic] Translating our content - Dave Hakkens

Hello dear members! This topic is for everyone that wants to help us out translating our content. (download kit/videos/website) We love that! But to be honest we haven’t find a proper way - Dave Hakkens

6:51 AM

I want to spread Precious Plastic to Japan

You can ask about that in #deleted-channel, probably. And it's probably as simple as e-mailing a script to the main contact address. The text can be added as closed captions on YouTube. I can't remember if Google Translate allows edits for entire pages. But it can accept an URL, I think. Well, it used to. (edited)

I just checked. You can enter an URL in the text field. And click on individual paragraphs to suggest edits. Of course, updates are not instantaneous. And might not be added to the Google system. English is not my first language, so I did a quick check of the AI translation. It looks pretty good. Results will vary for different languages, though. As I recall, AI English to Japanese and vice versa is notoriously bad. Like "let's make memes about it" bad.

@Lazy_Turtle there's an ongoing effort to make the Academy translatable: https://github.com/ONEARMY/academy/issues/77. The idea is to use a translation service (https://crowdin.com) to make it easy for people to contribute. When it's in place there will probably be a how-to explaining everything. In the meantime best is to translate the content on your side and transfer it to crowdin when the platform is ready.

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https://www.yankodesign.com/2020/03/09/a-sustainable-takeout-box-to-save-500-years-of-recycling-styrofoam/

10:59 AM

Great presentation. Design student

Thanks @John , I will check that out

Hi I am from south africa, kwazulu natal, north coast ballito. I am keen in exploring the precious plastic world.

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hi has anyone got a list of the melting points of plastics, there was one on the website but i cant find it

@est1608890 here it is: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics (at the end). It's also available in the kit I believe

Thank you

@lechatblanc whoa that's so awesome

Wait a sec, this isn't trash...

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@Sam Stark Welcome! Awesome to hear that you are studying a masters degree, the more knowledge the better!

What an awesome survey

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Taking a break at 3/4 of a bag because I apparently haven't eaten all day. My efforts so far are appreciated

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@Deleted User I only did about 25% of the perimeter of the pond today

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] we are from different nations and different places and different religions but i will say it i am proud of you

9:33 PM

keep up the good work

Thank you! Today I had someone walking nearby stop to thank me and toss me a piece of trash to put in my bag, so I guess technically it was a group effort.

Last time I did litter collection, I had a guy, likely involved with the armed services, stop his truck, walk over to me, and shake my hand (a bit intimidating at first)

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9:38 PM

I was also prepared with an extra pair of gloves in the rare event someone wanted to join me. I will admit that the thorny bushes by the water made things much less enjoyable.

9:40 PM

I dislike the way styrofoam breaks up into tiny little balls. I was not as thorough as I would have liked to be, but its still a major improvement to the area. Hopefully I'll go back tomorrow to knock out another section.

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Good work!

nice

Does the people who made the recent survey hang out in this discord?

I would just like to point out that you can't have overlapping categories such as age groups. Right now it says 18-25, 25-30, 30-35 etc. while it should be 18-25, 26-35 and so on. Otherwise you can be in two categories as a 25 year old, and we will get less precise data than necessary. Just a small thing, i hope i don't come off as negative, i think a survey is a wonderful idea

@Emil thanks!!! Ill try a composite of pet and ashes!

1 away from having 300 member reactions, who is going to do it? :o

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300 member reactions Where?

#🖐start-here

Just to burst your bubble a little... the first counted reaction was the one added to the post, during bot configuration. So the real number is actually 298.

But we'll get there... Server total membership is at 3238. This is the second largest server I'm on. But also one of the quietest.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/corona-beer-fear-coronavirus/

David Mikkelson

Did Corona Beer Sales Drop Sharply Due to Fear About the Coronavirus?

A trope that suggests people are so dumb they think the beer and virus are related played out in some news reports.

Wow! The survey was so well-made!

5:54 AM

So easy to submit, but must be so hard to code these stuff

Hi, I am interested to find out the state of chemical recycling that is ready to be deployed at small scale as a community-based facility that is run and operated by the community itself.

We hit 300! :D

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Interesting to see Precious Plastic using Mailchimp, I use it too.

12:23 PM

Higly recommend

12:23 PM

ed

12:23 PM

*Highly

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B9mHBQkhU02/?igshid=ssq6txwzxpvk

6:03 PM

Every hour, of every day, in hundreds of factories in every country around the world...

6:03 PM

Are printed bottle easier to recycle than labels? Are removable plastic labels better than paper labels?

alarming, most super markets empty here, country side Barcelona

8:15 PM

kinda feel lucky now to have stockpiled foods and stuff last week already, except beer, damn

except beer, damn Corona might still be available

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Are removable plastic labels better than paper labels? You'll probably hear various opinions on that. I would say removable paper. Because... humans. We all know labels are just a nuisance that almost nobody wants. Shred it... compost it... walk away. Not sure if the inks on silkscreen prints are a problem. Interesting question.

@Frederik C (ZA) from a manual recycling point of view, I'd say a removable plastic label is pretty good...it leaves no glue on the bottle and whips off in one piece. But then, what to do with the label?

9:08 PM

A paper label that sticks hard on the bottle is a major pain. Soaking and scrubbing takes time and energy...but then it breaks down really easily.

Yes, sticky paper is from the bottom pits hell. I'm talking about the loose paper labels you'll typically see on hot chocolate bottles. It's glued only to itself, in one spot. If it's "normal" LDPE, I suppose it can be shredded and melted. But you'll have weird colour mixes, I'm guessing. They are also often transparent. (edited)

Here's another interesting article..

9:17 PM

https://www.treehugger.com/plastic/how-plastics-add-climate-crisis.html

How plastics add to the climate crisis

They are basically solid fossil fuels, putting out as much as 6 kg of CO2 for every kg of plastic.

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Changing our relationship to plastic, literally requires a restructuring of the entire economy. I don't think most people understand how much money and effort is invested in the "mental programming" of making sure that doesn't happen.

Fill the bottle with hot water, wait ten seconds and peel it off. Easy. Works about 95% of the time

Hi everyone

... I’m a local welder/fabricator from NJ USA and I’m looking to open a machine shop that could help the community reproduce recycled materials into useful products. But I’m doing research to see what is needed most from the community. Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Very excited to be apart of the Precious Plastics Community.

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Supply / demand systems are still being developed. You'll probably start getting an idea of what's needed if you place a map pin, and requests and queries start coming in from people near you. I haven't used the Bazar much yet, but I think you can search for requested items, right?

Fill the bottle with hot water, wait ten seconds and peel it off. Easy. Works about 95% of the time

@d-Wizz (PP Taringa) not overly environmentally friendly process, energy to heat the water and then do you recycle the water? Heat gun would be more effective and less impact.

Hello I’m Brock from Iowa, USA

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https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51825089

New rules could spell end of 'throwaway culture'

Regulations hope to tackle products that are are bought, used briefly, then binned.

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@lechatblanc What info do you have for me about eco-friendly home cleaning detergents?

@Frederik C (ZA) by no means a complete picture, but here's some thoughts! Pubs and cafes dilute a concentrated mixture at a rate of about 10ml to 300ml water. It meets environmental health requirements and performs brilliantly. The cost is about £0.01 per ml...

8:30 AM

...contrast to consumer cleaning products, and the price is easily 5 times higher, and comes with a convenient disposable pump spray bottle.

8:35 AM

There's a hundred different choices of product for various niche requirements...yet the commercial sector is able to manage with around 10 different chemical mixtures to clean everything. Thanks to that 'mental programming' you mentioned.

As for chemical safety in the environment? We've tried: vinegar mixtures; making our own with borax; washing machine air balls etc. When you have morons on Instagram boasting of their #hinchhaul, it seems pointless

the heck is hinchhaul

hello

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Howdy

@Deleted User a lady called Hinch, who is an obsessive cleaner and promotes cleaning products to millions of followers. Peaked about 18months ago.

9:50 AM

She encouraged followers to share images of all the products they bought - usually at least 3 of everything.

ahhhh

hi @Deleted User

I've mostly avoided the pollution of the environment with cleaning products with the "near perfect" solution of simply not cleaning.

But I'm starting a bed and breakfast. So, now I'll have to clean frequently, in preparation for guests. Some kind of alcohol solution must surely be the most natural thing. My intuition might be wrong. But natural systems produce ethanol, and so the eco-system can probably handle it in reasonably large quantities in grey water. Right? Anyway, I'll look into it. I just thought maybe you already had a cheat sheet / nutshell version for me.

My plans for this started more than a year ago, BTW. Starting in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic is obviously not ideal. But I couldn't have predicted it. We'll just have to ride it out.

Best of luck with the BnB. Pinterest is a mine for natural cleaning things!

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1:09 PM

https://pin.it/4okIw2U

Natural Cleaning with Essential Oils | Natural cleaning recipes, Na...

Create a non toxic home with these natural cleaning with essential oils recipes. I share my 5 homemde cleaners with free printable labels.

Thanks. When the renovation starts in April, I'll probably be much less active on Discord, at least temporarily. But I'll try to stay in the loop. We'll see what we can do with local community building in the second half of 2020.

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Hey folks! Just another cog in the machine. Participating by building a plastic shredder as part of aschool/study project among some talented people.

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9:59 PM

Really feel somewhat overwhelmed with the amount of information the community has to offer here and on davehakkens forum pages.

10:00 PM

Currently checking for the latest feedbacks and updates on the "basic" shredder machine and managed to stumble upon people talking about V2.1 and V3

10:00 PM

the V3 in this case is the "pro" model people are talking about did I get it right?

hello world!

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the V3 in this case is the "pro" model people are talking about did I get it right? The "pro" machines are just ones designed more for output capacity and less for affordability. They were introduced for the launch of V4 in Janaury 2020.

https://hackaday.com/2020/03/12/ultimate-medical-hackathon-how-fast-can-we-design-and-deploy-an-open-source-ventilator/

Gerrit Coetzee

Ultimate Medical Hackathon: How Fast Can We Design And Deploy An Op...

[Gui Cavalcanti], whose name you might recognize from MegaBots, got on a call with a medical professional in San Francisco and talked about respirators. The question being, can we design and deploy…

Does anyone know of a discord server for this sort conversation? It seems like a good bunch of us here could be helpful contributing to open source corona solutions.

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those kinda guys won't be on Discord usually or such I am afraid (on IRC perhaps), you could try searching related projects on Github and the net : https://innovations.bmj.com/content/2/2/78, the servers I found are filled up with front page news, lurkers, gamerz ... You could also try a forum post outlining ideas and potential contribution steps, and/or evtl. we could get a dedicated channel just. Might be a good idea to mobilize forces within PP; indeed there are some talented guys around. (edited)

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What are you guys trying to achieve? Its a Flu virus and it will do what it does and disappear as they all do and this wont be the last one. Ebola and SARS were so much worse as well.

@NoMorePlastic the question was about how many lifes we could save on it's way. apparently lungs need some help at some point.

Anyone knows how to open files from download kit? I tried also AutoCAD but nothing

@JHONNY v4: solidworks-2019 upwards, v3 : with Fusion360

2:39 AM

whereby there are step files for v4 as well

Perfect, thank you

there's small time stuff missing, washers, nuts, etc...

I am just at the beginning, so I don't know very well the entire system

yeah no worry, ask in #archived-machines if you've got problems; there we have really decent guys always happy to help out others

I am very thankful to you

Hello Everyone! I'm J-Wall from Print That Thing (www.ptt.live) I'm a 3D Printing Designer who is trying to inspire more people to get involved with 3D printing. I want to learn at home recycling myself to then teach 3D print artists how to close the loop and lessen their 3D printing waste. Hopefully reducing the global plastic problem.

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2:56 AM

Here's a quick reel from my channel. Really excited about meeting you all and talking more over the years

2:57 AM

https://youtu.be/DlQjDz3TnNM

Print That Thing

PRINT THAT THING - Channel Trailer

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@J-Wall : welcome, that's just awesome. I've invited you to the 3d print task force of PP on another server; enjoy

Gotcha! Thanks

@NoMorePlastic the question was about how many lifes we could save on it's way. apparently lungs need some help at some point.

@Deleted User from everything I’m reading most fatalities have pre exciting lung conditions or old and sick. It’s already declining in China, by the time you get something up and running it would have run its course. Not saying don’t try however. Just curious.

Its not just flu. There is no natural immunity for this virus in the population. Hospitals worldwide are going to be overwhelmed for months just simply treating the virus. I hope no healthy youngsters have accidents that require emergency treatment during this period, because there will be no capacity to get treated. I'd like to help turn a sports hall in to a treatment centre, or build a rudimentary sterilisation machine or an air purifier, or whatever.

by the time you get something up and running it would have run its course It could help for the next SARS mutation or outbreak. They are coming fast and furious these days. With multiple strain mutations happening simultaneously, with just 3 to 5 years between major epidemics. If you consider 100 year cycles to be a "thing," then we are "due" for something similar to the 1918 flu. Technology has improved a lot of course, but a lot can go wrong in the 18 months needed to produce a vaccine. Basically all you need are a few catastrophic events to happen simultaneously. In the case of the 1918 flu, which killed an estimated 100 million people, it happened during WW1. That helped the spread and prevented proper treatment. Flu still kills about 650 000 annually. With 30 times the fatality rate, we are looking at a potential death toll of 19.5 million for each successive SARS outbreak that escapes the initial quarantine zone. (edited)

...or 3d print door handles that can be more easily opened using an elbow.

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I wanted to get some opinions on an idea: After getting the shredder and injection mold machine, design and build "solar receptacles" around the area we setup at. https://greendiary.com/system-with-barcode-reader-crushes-cans-with-solar-power-video.html Something like this for cans, have a mini shredder version for plastic. The shredded plastic/crush cans take up substantially less space that way, pickup can be done to take out/replace the bin inside. The main issue would be whether people follow the directions and put the right stuff in the right one.

Community Writer | Community.Drprem.com

System with barcode reader crushes cans with solar power (Video) - ...

Some third year students from Mechanical Engineering School of Trinity College in Dublin have come up with this design project. The Solar Powered Can Crusher has two 20 watts solar panels that generates enough energy to help the system in crushing...

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I havent been back to do more cleanup yet :/

Hello everyone am from Tanzania and Uganda

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@Titankore.ai Re: reverse vending machines. The local environment makes a big difference in how well such a system can work. Putting the machine in a public space, is the easy part. Machines that spit out coins, seem to be viable in some places. But it will not work in my country without a significant IT infra-structure behind it. So, it's not something that I, personally, would invest in, any time soon.

We hit 100 workspace reactions

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My Android app only displays the most recent 100 names for each reaction. Is that standard?

No, I logged in on the web-interface. You can see everyone's reactions there. And this was sent from there. Bit of a pain on a mobile browser, though. (edited)

@Deleted User How can one join that team, and what does it take? I have 3d printed a ton of stuff at this point, and being able to make usable fillament is one of the things i would be really interested in

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This may be a basic question but what CAD software do I need to use to open the CAD files in the starter-kit? I have tried a couple and can't seem to find what opens these things.

@Richard PerkinsI have had success with fusion 360

@Titankore.ai : I just saw your post about OSE meets PP. There is lot's of good in there ! As for the vending machine, there is a product/project in development https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/products/asterix; basically PP on steroids, for public places. The first alpha is there this weeks; it crushes cans too. There is a good chance to run it on solar as well; we took care it's low consumption and runs quite as well. What's your take on the bar-code scanner ? for now we have it on the list but not exactly sure yet for what yet (edited)

It could be used for scanning the cans/bottles to confirm it is glass or aluminum to open up the door, helps prevent people from tossing in the wrong stuff.

11:55 PM

but also if you wanted you could have a system where people get "keycards" and it tracks how much recycables you put in bins and you can redeem points for purchasing items at the shop itself. Like if you put in 20lbs of recyclables over the course of a year and then be like, "welp I could do with a pencil holder, a couple wall hooks, etc"

11:56 PM

Have it so for every 2.5lbs of recyclables you get in you get like 1lb worth of items.

11:57 PM

Mostly so more items get sold than bought that way so the income runs smoothly

alright, this kind of exchange/reward system makes more sense now to me; I've seen only a couple of discussion around this idea in the forums but never get my head around. Ok, I am convinced now. Thanks for the explanation; I am discussing this with the team to push this a little more. Are you related to the OSE project ? And there other ways to contact you ? (edited)

@Titankore.ai @Deleted User we discussed this type of model last year to implement here in the future but using an app and qr/barcode scanning to track everything a user returns and they are rewarded via a point system after the container deposit is returned. So the more you recycle the more points you have to spend or cash out. It should improve recycling and sorting of different types of materials. Also give lower income or homeless a way to access an income source. Just need to develop the right machine to do the job. Ideally it needs to shred onsite otherwise you will be emptying it twice a day. Considered different machines as well one for each type to avoid cross contamination.

I am currently a broke dude trying to raise enough funds to build my first machine. Formerly homeless and mostly wanted to create a space that is more directly beneficial to people who are in that difficul position

12:25 AM

one of the plastic projects I wanted to impliment is to make cheap/easy to build shelters. Injection mold parts like the connectors and staves, essentially just tents but better than nothing.

12:26 AM

Thankfully when I was in that position I had a car and 15 years camping experience to build my own shelter.

i see - thank you both, that's very inspiring and motivating to get PP more flexible, accessible,... @Titankore.ai : I guess you have already a particular machine on mind ? (edited)

@NoMorePlastic : yes, something like this came to mind recently when we had a shredder build up in a sort of module like machine. we're wondering to just use the same format/design for the next modules to be placed right beside: grinder -> dust/pellets, printer (fast for larger primitives or more detailed objects), automatic injection and so on. much like you'd have this in a laundry; each module gives you a certain output or transformation. Plastic as the new cash, I like it a lot. The technical problems are not easy but still more easy than making it really viable - that's the part where I am out of ideas.

Yes exactly, we also have a deposit of 10c on containers that's refunded upon return, so collecting bottles and returning them generates income, if you can add in a process as well with rewards and onsite processing its a win win, especially if you can get companies on-board with the point exchange system. As the supplier of the units you could set up the network to collect the shredded plastic and broker it as a commodity. The app would also allow the user to locate the machines that take the types of plastic you want to deposit saving traveling to the wrong location. Yeah it probably needs big business or government to back this as the development alone will be super $$ and then the build and roll out would be a huge logistical challenge, not something we are set up for. But if you could get a working prototype it could be all you need to get the them onside.

right, well let me tell you it's around the corner, we're building the very first basic building block for a famous quality water company right now; they're trying to create a multiple waste stream and apparently they have already deals to get the flakes sold back into the system. adding as next the point system is relative easy. private schools want the same thing but with a grinder & printer module beside. (edited)

I mostly want the shredder and extruder with enough steel for a couple molds

@NoMorePlastic : might be a good idea to post this on the forum, easier for us and others to add more to this there.

1:21 AM

@Titankore.ai : where are you located ? we can send you some spare parts

@Deleted User that's great, that's what we are working on, a mobile combination unit for schools and community to promote more localised and targeted processing. I see the demand for shredded plastic growing steadily. What forum do you refer?

@tk-betty : where are you located ? https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855096121425920/683015596941508629

Durham NC

@NoMorePlastic : here the ongoing discussions about apps, qr, code, plastic currency and the like : https://www.google.com/search?ei=9vhtXv7tDMfQaOvcpbAL&q=reward+OR+currency+OR+qrcode+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl%2Fcommunity&oq=reward+OR+currency+OR+qrcode+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl%2Fcommunity&gs_l=psy-ab.3...4629.4629..5547...0.0..0.70.244.4......0....1..gws-wiz.........26%3A55.qtDdwUKg0B4&ved=0ahUKEwj-wOvgmJzoAhVHKBoKHWtuCbYQ4dUDCAs&uact=5

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] anything new boss ?

Nope. It was a spot basically on campus and campus basically closed on Tuesday

2:52 PM

and my original bag is still sitting in the garage since I wanted to sort it all at once

np

@NoMorePlastic : by mobile combination unit you mean a set of mobile machines ? PP Monash did a great job: https://www.preciousplasticmonash.com/machines

@Frederik C (ZA) : that can't be! because Chuck Norris should be since long dead but the dead is too afraid to tell him! This should apply to hosts infected with his blood as well

In the meantime, let's follow what the Australian government advises : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hks6Nq7g6P4&feature=youtu.be (edited)

thejuicemedia

Honest Government Ad | Coronavirus: Flatten The Curve

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That were the worst numbers today so far (https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/) stay safe - going out here comes since this morning with penalties (100 E til prison)

@NoMorePlastic here's more or less an overview of the vending shredder; quite a fuss but I couldn't get it more simple than this :-). The unit measures only 1.20m x 50 x 50 cm, is around 50 Kg and quite easy to move. For now it only shreds bottles. I could imagine to house multiple shredders for different materials.

@NoMorePlastic : by mobile combination unit you mean a set of mobile machines ? PP Monash did a great job: https://www.preciousplasticmonash.com/machines

@PlasticHub#8821 Yes we are actually working together to develop a more market ready user friendly diversified unit , that unit is very clunky but proved there is a market ready to learn about the plastic cycle. They are just a student team and our inspiration so they are quite restricted to what they can do.

1:57 AM

@Deleted User great stuff, this needs to be continued as I feel there is a high need for this level of recycling, bringing it back to the consumer and making it easy and rewarding. Do you plan on prototyping a version?

I changed my profile to include the PP logo but its too small/subtle :/

Hello fellow humans, are there any video's or links on how to make a "how to" ?

are there any videos or links on how to make a "how to" ?

That should probably have been the first How To, when you think about it. Basically, before you begin, you need a user account on the website. And the final version needs to be approved by admins before it will be visible on the website.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/670932227050506/

Open Source COVID19 Medical Supplies

COVID19 is currently spreading exponentially, in a mostly unchecked fashion, throughout the world. Infection doubling rates are as high as 2-3 days. Under simplistic models, such unchecked growth...

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4:42 AM

Some call for injection molded parts for DIY ventilators using ambu bags.

Has anyone by chance made recycled replacement handles for the La Pavoni machines, or other espresso machines? I am thinking it might be a cool way to customize your own machine

That's a cool idea Emil.

Hey! do we have case studies of people that started their journey in the starter kits? Like examples of community points, workspaces, collection points, etc?

opensource ventilator project server https://discordapp.com/channels/689189251174105219/689189254286672060

hi all, my name is Ben and lm from Geelong, Australia. lm keen to get a shredder built and start shredding some plastics for a project lm working on with my scout troop. I was a draftsman in a previous job so have a ok knowledge of AUTOcad so knocking up a shredder fingers crossed shouldnt be too hard.

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@Francisco I'm not sure about "case studies" per se, but the core team usually include some stand-out projects in the monthly news videos. I find it difficult to follow so many different social media accounts, myself. Exhausting...

Also, none of that gives us insight into the average financials, which I think most people are actually interested in, based on intuition but also on the questions I've seen here.

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4:45 AM

@Timberstar You need to post an invite link to the server for it to work. Unless that link is to a message on this server, but it didn't work for me.

@Frederik C (ZA) Thanks for the answer! Yes, totally agree with you - one possible goal for the next couple of months is actually to provide clear information about some of the journeys in place. Meaning, financial performances, good practices, etc

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Hello all. I'm really sorry to ask, because I know how this looks, but does anyone know if there are any example business plans related to Precious Plastics? A friend and I are hoping to go for a grant to start something up here, we already make a product using two waste products and want to do more.

@ryanstev A business plan is all part of v4, there's a lot of stuff available on their website

We've done a bit of this sort of thing, from e-waste scrapping, refining gold from the bits, making a mini aluminium smelter, etc. We even have a working product we can sell, but we're not business guys at all.

11:12 AM

Thanks Emil, I'll check that out.

Where are you guys located, and what do you produce?

11:15 AM

Basically, there's a lot of different ways of making money, you can either focus on converting trash into raw materials, or focus on turning raw materials into products

NZ, we've created a grind wax (used by skateboarders, etc, to slide on rails)

@ryanstev can you show some picture of your product?

11:25 AM

im also looking for some prarical business plan.

I don't have them here, but picture a bar of soap, that's what they look like, with the colour dependent on the colour of the plastic used.

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hi

3:52 PM

can anyone tell me more about motor specifications for the shredder?

@Abby I think the pro one should ideally be between 2,2 or 4 KW

and the normal model is 2,2KW.

There was a talk of "plastic currency" sort of thing and I had some ideas along those lines. The concept is making a fun tile based board game (open source so anyone can add new kinds of pieces). The large hexagon tiles are map pieces on one side (custom 3D printed press converted to metal to make them), and a brand with the weight, type of plastic, and recycling center that made it. The smaller peices are coin shaped and made with recycled metals. The pieces themselves act as something to use excess material for during other processes. The pieces also act as a currency for trading for items of similar weight.

5:34 PM

The coins could also act as arcade tokens for playing games at a local makerspace/arcade. (a lot of us make arcade cabinets for fun) (edited)

Knife-shaped currency.

That certainly makes a "coin flip" more interesting.

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That was mostly something of the time, they also had shovel/spade shaped ones

5:52 PM

But with custom molds we could make them any shape so long as they are useable on the board and have the info on the base somewhere.

The Plastic Bank "currency" is an actual cryptocurrency linked to the purchase price of things sold by the collection points. So, its "purchasing power" is directly linked to the $ value of the items in the collection point store. Game "currency" is something I don't really understand. In so far as I understand the concept (I think), but not the appeal. (edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) Christ, even precious plastic has a cryptocurrency now? xD Do you know the current market value?

Somehow, my brain always starts to fold over, when trying to understand macro-economics. But I figure since the "currency" is only useful in the recycling "eco-system," and the same items can be purchased with the local government currency, they would be worth exactly the same. So, sorry to the "pump'n dump" speculation sharks.

"Football referee dies in tragic coin-flip accident."

Somehow, my brain always starts to fold over, when trying to understand macro-economics. Basically, like many people, I know the emperor has no clothes on. And, also like many people, I'm just not sure if he's wearing a jock-strap or not, because I'm too afraid to really look. It's comparable to the concept in political science called "rational ignorance," where the effort of gaining hidden information, outweighs the benefit of having it. Because... humans. Also, I just realised I'm way too sleepy to be doing this, right now. Night.

@Titankore.ai If you need help with the 3d printing let me know ✋

Hello guys, I'm new here

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6:55 AM

Hope I can find some help for building a shredder haha, especially with electronics

Just to provide a bit more context: While I understand that the value of all currency, either fiat, representative, or crypto is based on completely arbitrary factors and basic tradability, it's not clear to what extent a modern, industrial society can or cannot function without a standardized currency. The generally accepted notion of the speeding up of transaction, is probably why standardized currency was first adopted millennia ago. It's probably connected to the diversification of economic activity. But Africans managed just fine without standardized currency before Arabs and Europeans showed up on their continent. A brief introduction into this "pseudo-philosophical" rabbit hole (go as deep as you like): Attached video from the film Four Horsemen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU How much money is there on Earth? — Vsauce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2tKg3E53DM

Vsauce

How Much Money is There on Earth?

@Frederik C (ZA) Well, since the US has gone away with the gold standard, money has really only been worth what we agreed it was worth. But at its simplest form, it just makes trade easy. You don't have to figure out how many bananas a cucumber sells for, but instead you can just pay a set amount of cash. While the crypto market has crashed, rightfully so, there still are quite a few shops that accepts it, which is pretty interesting to see

11:03 AM

@Frederik C (ZA) The crypto used for precious plastic, is that mined like bitcoin? It would be pretty ironic if we had a currency that created pollution as it was created

Crypto is useful for public auditing. If you have a system that's supposed to help poor and marginalized communities, you can see where the money actually goes. Independent of any auditing firms who accept bribes to rubber-stamp the annual reports. In that context it's not a replacement for conventional currency. It's just a different version of it, with more limited utility. But I can understand why the Rulers Of The World went after cryptocurrency so hard. An auditable money supply is very bad for business as usual. The global money system only works if no-one can figure out where it all is, and how much there is. Information is power. Which is also why internet freedom is slowly being hijacked, everywhere. (edited)

guys why some of countries not included on the channels list ?

Rather than add 150+ channels, they just add them when someone asks for it.

can u add one more ?

11:11 AM

please

Ping [at]

v4-team with a new country request.

noice

11:13 AM

@🤙v4-team new country request.

11:16 AM

thx @Frederik C (ZA)

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11:17 AM

It might be useful to put the country name In the ping

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11:17 AM

To save a bunch of useless back and forth messages

I am a student at the American university of Beirut and I have a very important assignment and I have choose precious plastic as the company I wanna evaluate its just I am having difficulty answering the following about the company Unfair advantage Channels Customer segments Cost structure Revenue Streams

11:40 AM

if anyone can help it would be much appreciated

You might want to elaborate a bit on those topics so we know what you are asking

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basically I just need to know how is the companies cost structure

Also, maybe move it to the #deleted-channel channel where some people might be able to speak Corporate. I started learning to speak Corporate in the early 2000s when I was in advertising college. But I never became fluent.

what do they spend money on

You should still be a bit more elaborate if you expect people to help you. Basically, most of this can be find online, and would be considered a part of your desk research

Plus, you should specify whether you mean precious plastic as a community, or precious plastic as Dave Hakkens and friends. You should also look into the open source movement, that will likely be quite relevant to you

It would also depend on what section you look at. -machine shop -collection point -shredder workspace -other workspaces (edited)

I really like those Australian "Honest Government Ads" videos. "Malignant S%$t Funnel" is now my new favourite "pet name" for the US president. But I'll also keep using my old favourites "Orange Hitler" and "Humpty Dumbty."

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It's a good thing the wall isn't up yet. It will make it easier for American refugees to reach Mexico, when Orange Hitler declares martial law and begins COVID-19 "sterilazation procedures" in the lower US.

Blood banks are always on the verge of running dry, because they never have more than a few weeks' or (usually) days' worth of supply. Now, even fewer people are donating blood. So, yeah... now there's that too...

Maybe lay off the extreme sports for a while? (edited)

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4:12 PM

But using power tools and sharp objects all day, is probably fine. Also, running with scissors. That's fine.

Okay, let's start a game, what is the most useful way we can help the precious plastic project from home, for those of us who are in quarantine?

lol, was about to compile a list though

Yes please!

8:02 PM

I have just been sent home from work, and after half an hour i am ready to go insane

lol

8:04 PM

#coronvirus @ machinists : youtube channels & books : https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/resources/ (edited)

8:07 PM

the more fascinating i figured was this channel here : https://www.facebook.com/groups/670932227050506/ . folks who have printers, please get active, f** spain military cops seized even our medicare supplies, leaving emergencies with nothing. quite a chapter (edited)

@Deleted User Great thank you! Ironically, i have a printer at work, where i am no longer allowed to enter -.-

8:07 PM

But that is horrible!

i guess it's just the beginning

Cool question. Here is the Corona to-do: (Listed in importance  ) 1. Support on patreon 2. Share the project around 3. Help us to code (react) 4. Watch our videos 5. Inform yourself in the academy 6. Help others out in Discord 7. Download “community point” starter kit and begin a (digital) local community. 8. Clean up your desktop, never hurts.. ⭐️ Bonus round for established spaces: Upload a how-to of your products, machines hacks etc. (edited)

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btw. these are in high demand, hospitals don't care it's printed : https://www.fastcompany.com/90477940/these-good-samaritans-with-a-3d-printer-are-saving-lives-by-making-new-respirator-valves-for-free?fbclid=IwAR20UbqtjccOeNnnv9ARBjLhC5WLGyY15u65gxTlDjg3PCMNLJOGfJuXxx4 was wondering how to make a mold ..

These Good Samaritans with a 3D printer are saving lives by making ...

As Italy’s hospitals have run out of equipment, one hospital is making its own using 3D printers and local expertise.

@davehakkens Damn, a reply from the guy himself, very cool! I will definetely do what i can, though i have never made friends with react. I will for sure stay active in Discord, helping out where i can. As an added bonus, that should help my mind from melting from the isolation. As to point 7. i am currently working on it, but most of the meetings are sadly postponed. Just wanted to give a huge thank you for what you have started, and what so many great people have brought even further!

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yeh. thanks is for the community

(A repeat of the above ... sort of) The only thing I can think of, for now, is making tutorial documentation. Videos and How Tos. Info about plastic types, etc. Read through threads on the forum maybe. Social media outreach, maybe (spread awareness). But young and healthy people, who are least at risk, should probably try to find ways to volunteer in their neighbourhoods to help people who are house-bound. (Assuming there are some safety protocols in place, and things outside aren't completely crazy.)

I don't wanna be negative but there is a deadly storm coming up (current estimates is that 40 - 70 % get infected) , so please everybody, try to get your hands on making medic equipment

. eventually we can get a dedicated channel please

8:15 PM

@Frederik C (ZA) : exactly

@davehakkens Very true, but you still deserve a mention. Plus, saying thank you to an entire community is pretty difficult. Stay safe everyone!

8:16 PM

@Frederik C (ZA) That is true. I am not exactly sure if it is okay for me to go outside, as i have been cooped up with my thesis partner for over a month, and he is now sick with Corona.

8:17 PM

I don't show any symptoms, but i am not sure if i should/ am allowed to go outside

8:18 PM

@Deleted User I know that the guys at Prusa is already making hand sanitizer, do you think it would make sense to contact them, if they aren't already producing medical equipment? Surely they are the people with the biggest "army" of 3d printers?

8:19 PM

My issue is that i normally have access to a bunch of printers at my university, but we can't enter there anymore, and it's the same story for work

going outside : don't then, we're in contact with some of the inventors, still waiting for the final STL files; appearently we need them everywhere soon.

Yeah, i am a member of a danish 3d printer community on facebook, and it is a very current topic. There's a bunch of people printing them

8:22 PM

From a legal standpoint, it is likely hard getting an actual company involved, because it involves breaking copyright, but there's a pretty big hobby market for 3d printers luckily

i think nobody cares about copyright right now; if you get infected, everyone will be happy to have something, it's like your lungs are only capable to run 20%; you won't be able to walk; myself would be dead for sure

Just to be perfectly clear, i totally agree, fuck the copyright. But 3M is actively suing for this, so a company might not want to risk it

8:26 PM

It is a horrible idea for 3M to sue for something like this, because they will be universally hated for it, but as far as i am aware, that is what they are doing

well let them ; in the meantime enjoy your ventilator, in hope you survive (edited)

If i had a printer i would print them non stop

Just be aware of the materials you're printing in. I was excited to print accessories for my quail but printed PLA isn't really able to be sanitized and you have all the layer lines from FDM to trap bad stuff.

@wunderkammer Very true, but i believe this is more a case of the PLA print being better than nothing

8:27 PM

But it is true that 3d prints can trap junk between the layers

Hola saludos desde chile!

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I suspect community points will, even under regular circumstances, function as a "virtual," and online community 90% of the time, even when physical meetings are not a problem. So, refining / streamlining that communication system, is also something to look at. Locally, if we manage to have 3 actual meet-ups per year (under normal circumstances) I'll be impressed and see it as successful. (edited)

Another thing you can do is introduce people to the Precious Plastic universe, be it your peers, family, or random internet friends! @Emil

Will do @Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio]

I'm thinking the neighbourhood watch / community policing forum (if you have one) might help with a volunteer action plan, to help people while minimizing infection risk. Ideally, you should have a community action plan before a disaster strikes, but people can still "catch up" and get ahead of the problem.

Some of our local makers, are also working on the DIY ventilators.

neighbourhood watches is not really a thing in Denmark, as far as i'm aware

But cool idea!

9:28 PM

The ventilator project is a very valid cause

neighbourhood watches is not really a thing in Denmark Yeah, it's probably more common in countries with high crime rates. South Africa qualifies. In fact, there are already reports of robbers pretending to be Health Department officials doing spot checks for the virus, to gain entry into buildings they can't normally get into. And we have gangs that use black market plastic explosives to blow open armoured trucks to steal the money headed to bank vaults. We're "used to" this kind of s$%t-f$%kery. So, South Africans tend to not "freak out" so much. But it's still "early" in our outbreak. We'll see...

https://discord.gg/GabxH6

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9:54 PM

@Deleted User Those 3d printed valves are done in SLS Nylon. Also there has been a lot of trouble getting the STL released

9:56 PM

I think one thing which would be incredibly valuable to work on is a Raspberry Pi script to run a ventilator

9:57 PM

its a set of sensor parameters, actuators, waveforms and touchscreen GUI

Not many people have an SLS printer at home lol.

Well, they have been getting more popular, but true, it is still a small market

I think you are switching up SLA and SLS, SLS still starts at about $5000.

@Timberstar : thanks for the discord server invitation! Currently I am just investigating what could be done. I was wondering to setup a forum and track all open source efforts there. Eventually a Discourse forum for c19 alone, in many languages - as for tool communities and just tracking news better

@Deleted User I hope that you don't think i am negative towards the project, i think it is really awesome btw

@Deleted User One of the good things to come out of this mess will be a massive expansion in online open source collaboration in many fields

10:03 PM

https://www.slideshare.net/AnanyaNanda/principles-of-icu-ventilators (edited)

ananya nanda

Principles of icu ventilators

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The Johns Hopkins medical university global C19 dashboard (link below) seems to always have the latest case reports and daily totals. But the WHO daily situation reports seem to always have lower numbers. Any thoughts on what the most authoritative information source is, to track the spread? https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

The local TV news reports the same figures as the JH dashboard. But, frankly, that doesn't mean much.

I would say that the WHO use definite confirmed cases while JH have some kind of collaboration with many sources

Yes, maybe the difference between "suspected" cases (people under observation / isolation) and the results of actual lab tests (for which there are not enough test kits).

May also be using a formula of some kind for realtime projections, though not sure how they are collecting data

I doubt it would be projections. That would cast doubt over the entire system. It's probably reporting through a network of doctors and clinics, etc. Also, real-world case reports is the data epidemiologists rely on for further projections. That's crucial information for geographic resource allocation. (edited)

Our government now has to deal with six cruise ships that want to dock in Cape Town. You really have to marvel at the mentality of someone who willingly boarded a cruise ship in last 2 weeks.

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JH shows 89 for Ohio while our state's "official" page says 88. However there was a tweet about a 2 yr old having a confirmed case after the screenshot of 88 was posted on twitter by our state governor. Not that 1 known case is a major discrepancy within a small time window.

Yes, I'm thinking the JH dashboard is as accurate as you can get, under the circumstances.

and the numbers in general are lower due to some people showing no symptoms, and even further in the US with lack of test kits

Yeah, the long incubation period of the virus, and asymptomatic "spreaders" are a big part of this scenario. Basically, no-one should assume they are not infected, and act as if they might be, for the sake of others who are more vulnerable. I'm almost 40, so I'm "pushing it" in terms of the "safe age." But I actually have an over-active immune system (to the point of having an auto-immune condition... there's always a catch.

) I haven't had any cold or flu symptoms for 7 years. But I can still be a "spreader" and there is close to zero herd immunity to this new bug.

Along with the open source ventilators, I've seen posts for DIY IR thermometers. I would say that's a waste of time. Part of the problem, thus far, is that asymptomatic spreaders slipped by the airport screening checks, because they didn't develop a fever. So, it's almost useless to screen for that.

@Deleted User this is the company I talked about, apparently they're already printing medical equipment these days https://blog.prusaprinters.org/from-design-to-mass-3d-printing-of-medical-shields-in-three-days/

From Design to Mass 3D printing of Medical Shields in Three Days - ...

Hello everyone, times are tough so I will keep this short and to the point. The 3D printing community is amazing! We are all problem solvers and enjoy building things not only for our lives but also for others. In the past few weeks, we have received many messages with respira...

Idk why people can't just act like introverts for the next month or so and stay the heck home instead of traveling >.>

8:51 AM

Social media influencers going to the airport in preventative masks, like... clearly you see the risks

8:57 AM

I guess some people haven't played the disease simulation games to understand that closing certain things (borders, schools) and changing congregation habits slows the spread. I understand that certain jobs are necessary and people need supplies for staying at home, but some stuff is just unnecessary

8:59 AM

As someone who has played simulation games, I'm happy to see no cases in Madagascar and hope they have closed borders

I guess a lot of people saved up for years to be able to take their "dream cruise" and figured "I'm gonna take this holiday, or die trying." But it's still pointless. Everyone on the ships, after quarantine, will be immediately deported from the country, on special flights back to their countries of origin.

9:09 AM

I'm happy to see no cases in Madagascar and hope they have closed borders I have a friend with a small boat, and I actually asked him if we could reach Madagascar (a joke... sort of

). He says no.

Also nobody dared venture to the Antarctic yet, thankfully

An Antarctic research vessel is heading to Cape Town, also. We are usually their first port on the trip back. At least we know there's zero chance they have C19. They've been stuck out there for 6 months or more. Those research rotations are often a year +. Boats can only make the trip a few months of the year. I'm also wondering about the Atlantic islands. They get their food from us, usually. (edited)

I saw a PP map pin on St. Helena Island on the old map. Any islanders here?

Curious Droid is a good science, technology and history channel. I have confidence in its research. Some interesting points in this latest video, below. Also, something that's not mentioned that much, yet, is the virus spreading through migrating wild animals. Since we can do practically nothing about that, the only point to take from that, is that even after initial outbreaks are contained and begin to fade, there still needs to be a cautionary period. We can't "party" right away. How does Coronavirus (Covid-19) compare to Spanish flu? — Curious Droid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJrm8V5KmPs (edited)

Curious Droid

How does Coronavirus (Covid-19) compare to Spanish flu?

This whole thing has me thinking, I know not everything can be printed, but what about the tools to make those other things? Specifically in this scenario of an epidemic and a vital need to raise medical care globally to stop this thing from continously circumnavigating the world and mutating.

5:11 PM

Like there are a couple open source projects for making insulin and adrenaline. The equipment itself could be printed like most of a centrifuge.

5:13 PM

So, like make a shipping container sized advanced makerspace with lots of material/supplies and a hospital could be built from it. A couple dozen plus some heavy construction equipment could be done by air drop.

Is there an existing group for designing open source basic medical lab equipment?

https://discord.gg/97hVrn

5:28 PM

there is also a facebook group called Open Source Covid 19 Medical Supplies

5:28 PM

neither seem to be getting anywhere yet really

5:30 PM

but there are some very smart people there

FDM has dozens of downsides for medical stuff.

"I specifically mentioned that this would be for emergencies and for making the tools to properly manufacture some of these items." (edited in note: I got confused with a similiar conversation I had this morning in another server and now realized I didn't mention this properly here) (edited)

4:16 AM

There are also medical grade resin printers for using laser lithography. Which can produce some parts, but ideally it would be like 3D printing a mold, recasting it in metal to mass manufacture catheters or other items.

4:19 AM

So that in, once again an emergency where the supply lines are congested/distrubted or just not fast enough, in a pinch someone can make that item within driving or preferably walking distance of the hospital.

Also, when all else fails, print up and build a drone to deliver a needed part/item/blood/etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEbRVNxL44c (edited)

Real Engineering

How Rwanda Built A Drone Delivery Service

Ehhh, silicon valley company built drone delivery service in Rwanda

Yes, the intellectual and expansion capacity must remain with the Colonial power. That's how global "charity" works. Plus, they will always get their investments back, ten fold, through debt-slavery. In exchange for all the "lent" money, that the World Bank literally pulled out of their asses. Also, when it comes to historical "debt," their loans are relevant — the last 500 years of World history, not so much.

But from a technical standpoint, the usefulness of such a system is limited by the bureaucracy of a country's aviation authority. Flying drones is mostly illegal in South Africa. There is no unrestricted airspace available to them. Using one for special projects or filming, requires a once-off permit that only applies to that one project. There are lots of drone-based ideas that can't be implemented, simply for this reason. High altitude drones and balloons with satellite transmitters can also be used to create internet connections in areas that have no broadband signal coverage. I think that might be part of the problem. Government is very "cozy" with the telecom industry. That's why we have some of the highest data costs in the World. But the Space X mini satellite constellations might come to our rescue, giving poor Africans internet connectivity like never before. (edited)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27lndEFP2DU&fbclid=IwAR0TOPBzJBMFahEi04a82DsKP1-K2JvaSw4jaodAuLtnjXSlqnx2uddLFxg

The Messy Desk

How to build: Oxygen Concentrator

https://copper3d.com/hackthepandemic/ Copper 3D (https://copper3d.com/) is a Chilean 3D-printing company. Between mid-2018 and the 1st half of 2019, they managed to raise two NASA funds to study the antimicrobial capabilities of their materials on the International Space Station (ISS).Copper 3D filament production technology is based on a patented additive based on copper nanoparticles, transforming PLA thermoplastic into fully anti-microbial nano-composites. Their most known material is PLACTIVE AN1 – a high quality PLA polymer with a 1% nanoporous additive, having “active” properties that eliminate a wide range of microorganisms. The manufacturer has also developed a medical material called NANOCLEAN – a high quality PETG anti-bacterial polymer, designed for more specific projects in the production of tools and components used in medical devices, and elastic filament with full antibacterial properties, called MDflexTM. (edited)

That's an open-source (STL file on the webpage), 3D-printable proposed emergency substitute for N95 respirator masks that are running out of stock (until China ramps up exports.) A local maker is prototyping it with regular PLA. Not sure yet how effective it can be without the nano-composite additive. But the company at least seems to have an established proof of concept. (edited)

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I'm guessing people who want to help, rather than profit, should be heading out to textile wholesalers to buy as much elastic waistband as possible, before the "sharks" figure out that they should stockpile this "useless" item, and push the price up 1000%. Otherwise, how else do you attach this mask to your face? Cable ties maybe? Maybe also Velcro strips. If push comes to shove, double-sided tape, maybe. That will probably be uncomfortable, and have to be constantly replaced. The idea is that the mask can be sterilized and re-used, by replacing the filter (which is single-use). If that is feasible, then cable ties might actually be best. (edited)

Also, the sensible thing for all shops to do is limit the sales of items to a certain number per customer. That automatically cuts down on hoarding and panic-buying.

[Engage sardonic module] Boosting the World population to 11.2 billion by 2100 is just a super good idea. So smart. What could go wrong? [Disengage sardonic module]

We need a "budget" version of the $5.25 million Energy Observer solar / hydrogen yacht to move the PP Army around to places that need start-up help. The boat is self-sustaining, in terms of energy. Other aspects of its carbon footprint can be looked at and maybe tweaked, to make it even more eco-neutral. https://www.energy-observer.org/en/#actu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgdXbe1in64

Wonder World

World’s First Hydrogen Boat - Energy Observer

Not for ocean travel, but potentially could make canoes and oars from plastic... (edited)

Depends on how tests with carbon-PLA printed boats turn out. Also, there are single-person, solar-powered kayaks. But, wow... that's extreme... That's for people who want a Guinness World Record, or something.... Like the local dude who tried to cross the Atlantic solo, on a kayak. I can't even remember if he made it. I just know he didn't die.

I see from a quick search, a South African did row across the Atlantic in 2010. I didn't even know about that one. (So... Yeay... I guess?) But that's not the more recent one I was thinking of. So, yeah... people do that. Because... humans.

HDPE boats are extremely good, almost unsinkable

Titanic III, this time we mean business

*almost

Just put the finishing touches on my bedroom. The decor is pretty unique

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What about injected mold recycled plastic mask ? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J22le3dBZBnNDXGlJLRb38z7v7LaOjKfDeN9f0tFeKY/edit?usp=sharing (edited)

Reusable Full-Face Snorkel Mask PPE Project

Reusable Full-Face Snorkel Mask PPE Project Repurposing full-face snorkel masks with a 3D printed N95 filter attachment as a reusable stopgap PPE solution for healthcare workers to help address the N95 mask shortage. Created: March 19, 2020 Last Updated: March 21, 2020 Documen...

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Any thoughts on using PP injectors to make re-usable masks from TPU ? We're currently looking into it. Mold wise it's quite a challenge but doable, I love the material from previous projects - super easy to work with

I think that might actually work better than 3d printed masks (that is if it is even possible to make them by injection). It will likely be easier to sanitize, because there aren't any layers where bacteria can easily grow.

@Deleted User There is a high demand for the flexible plastic coated wire 'nose bars' to create a good seal around the nose of fabric masks

1:43 PM

been wondering if this could be done by sandwiching wire between layers of LDPE in a sandwich press (edited)

1:43 PM

maybe paperclip wire

Maybe clip off the bending slats on metal file fasteners. They are already the right shape.

hospitals here running out soon out of masks, they're already using whatever DIY hand made masks; we're not though the planning yet but I have a couple of TPU based dust masks with replaceable filters and it seems doable, was even thinking to use the extruder just. will be back soon with more

Eventually PP can do a lot on the subject (edited)

Is there good information, vetted by medical professionals, on what fabric to use for masks? Also, are fabric masks considered disposable? If so, how can we possibly produce enough?

For example, silk, with a high thread-count is sometimes fine enough to filter bacteria out of water, if you have nothing else.

@Frederik C (ZA) : we have even folks here who started knitting them

Yes, that seems to be the call from hospitals. But not all fabric helps, surely.

It just seems to me that clothing factories should be able to be mobilized to mass produce masks within a few days. In which case, it's wasted effort for home-based makers. If so, they should find other ways to help. I'm also still thinking about injection-molded, reusable masks. But design time is against us. 3D-printers can start producing right away. They say the Copper 3D mask takes two hours to print. Because they need to be adjusted to an individual's face they are more suited to civilian use, rather than in hospitals.

Hi Everybody, Greetings from South Africa.

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@Deleted User @Frederik C (ZA) For filtering the preferred material is vacuum cleaner filters

3:12 PM

for fabric masks, sewn with a pocket to remove and exchange the filter

3:13 PM

not ideal for frontline staff obviously but helpful among the public

3:14 PM

The filters can be sterilized for resuse, UV-C light seems to be a good approach

3:16 PM

@Deleted User There is an immediate demand for Positive Air Pressure Respirator hoods (PAPR)

3:16 PM

3:17 PM

This might be something PP could help with?

3:19 PM

Medics in China have been using these in combination with a car HEPA filter and a 12V lithium batttery pack

yeah, very possible (ie: help 3th world countries) ! for now we started collecting some funding for R&D, there is still a long list of projects I have to check but I guess we're focusing first on extruding/injecting masks

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Visor for the PAPR hood can be made from a straight sided 2 liter soft drinks bottle

3:30 PM

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/air-supply-respirator

Air Supply - Respirator

This is a powered air-supply respirator. I designed it to provide filtered air to the 3M Versaflo faceshield-assembly. But it could be modified to work with a wide variety of respirators. It is powered by a Milwaukee M12 Battery. I have wanted a Versaflo system for wood-turni...

Re: Visors. This is where the plastic warehouse places come in handy. They sell 100 micron, transparent plastic sheets by the metre. I bought almost a full 10 m roll, once. Not very expensive. I imagine the sealing point can be heat-fused with a clothes iron. (edited)

Good idea

3:36 PM

need a pattern, maybe cut it out and place between 2 sheets, seal around edges with iron, remove pattern and turn inside out?

3:37 PM

most difficult part will be connecting the visor to the sheet material

3:39 PM

that frame needs to be rigid enough to hold the shape

3:39 PM

max size from a 2L bottle is about 200x200mm

I'm also thinking about acetate sheets used for overhead projectors. Might be more readily available. Pro: more rigid. Con: individual sheets might be too small.

pretty sure they are bigger than 200x200, if we make a design lets use that size so it can be made with either

3:44 PM

Im thinking the frame should be in 2 layers sandwiching the visor to the fabric

3:45 PM

by the way i got the acronym wrong, its Powered, Air-Purifying Respirator

Okay. They should be available in A4 size (standard European sheet of writing paper). Maybe bigger.

The hood itself can just be a plastic bag, it doesnt need to fit tightly and it doesnt matter if there are a couple of tiny leaks as its positive air (edited)

3:49 PM

but the visor needs to be held in position

3:50 PM

Disposable rain ponchos, maybe?

yes good idea

3:53 PM

but any reasonably thick plastic will do, we just need to design an interface between the PET bottle and the LDPE (edited)

3:54 PM

NHS staff in the UK are already using bin bags

We have a relevant How To already

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-a-raincoat-with-plastic-bags (edited)

excellent

3:58 PM

For the frame I am imagining something in the same shape as a chainsaw visor frame, but 2 layers so it can sandwich

3:58 PM

3 cases in Madagascar :( now there are 3 countries in Asia, 1 in middle east, 3 in Africa, and 1 in the Pacific ocean that I can see from the map that don't have any cases reported (edited)

@Deleted User what about vacuum forming masks?

4:59 PM

its fast

might be possible - not my terrain, we are quite cut off from suppliers & the network

most commonly available HEPA filter seems to be by Miele https://www.amazon.co.uk/HQRP-05996883-05996882-07226170-Capricorn/dp/B007T7ZXG8/ref=sr_1_24?dchild=1&keywords=hepa+filter&qid=1584895960&s=kitchen&sr=1-24&swrs=7DA0383DC6B0A571C9CC149DCC14E9E9

5:54 PM

a mask or adapter which accepts these might useful

where can I find the shredder drawings?

@V̷̎̀ó̶́i̸̾͗d̷̛̐ they are in the big download kit

thx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViQA6V2J_Yw

RobotDigg Shanghai

Face mask need new innovation

For the people trying to make face Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but i have just read that sanitary napkins or diaper material can be used as filters. While it is likely not as good as the real thing, it should be way better than something like toilet paper, which some folks is apparently using

@Emil did you see the ResearchGate paper about boiling t-shirt fabric to create N95 masks?

8:43 PM

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258525804_Testing_the_Efficacy_of_Homemade_Masks_Would_They_Protect_in_an_Influenza_Pandemic

8:43 PM

There's a pdf with abstract and summary etc.

Awesome, i will check that out! Thank you

And stay safe

Im less worried about infection and more about infrastructure lockdown if it's long enough

8:47 PM

Especially food access in urban or isolated buildings

8:48 PM

However what's discussed here is super useful

8:48 PM

I neef to back that up

8:48 PM

Still are people finding solution for food?

I can only speak for myself, in Denmark. Our government is doing surprisingly competently. Though there have been hoarders, the stores have been fast to restock. . But we can really only know how it turns out in a few months

One butcher here was on tv saying he's working 12 hour days and selling 1tonne of mince a day

9:46 PM

Hey everybody,

90% of the regular PP business is gone for sure, most suppliers are down as well - we expect this to hold up for 6 months at least
old clients and friends got in touch as well and asking what to do and in particular how we can make use of the PP machines to combat the virus :

It would be great if you could help us to create a dossier with existing projects, media links, ideas, science, etc... : https://forum.precious-plastic.org/t/projects-open-source/. This is btw. also the new - unofficial - forum and is not perfectly tuned yet but it's ideal for the job. You can sign up with Discord and other accounts. So, you just reply there and we take care about the rest. Ideally we also have a nice directory on the subject, ready to jump in! You can also just post findings in - just chatting, we pick it from there as well. The possible outcomes :

create molds to produce masks or other parts with the PP extrusion or injection
discover, hack, document or help existing projects on the subject Needless to say but hospitals here in Catalonia already running out of gear and use DIY masks,... and the peak of the pandemia is yet to come, and more likely hitting less developed countries even harder. god speed,

Guenter - Senior Engineer at PlasticHub (edited)

Projects - Open Source

Introduction We´re investigating and collecting data, projects for all sorts of protection gear. Please post new links and sources here. We will curate the posts and bring them in order. How to help : Signup and reply here you can use the editor to add links and pictures To...

https://www.3dprintingmedia.network/isinnova-shares-3d-printed-adapter-to-turn-snorkeling-mask-into-a-non-invasive-ventilator/

Davide Sher

Isinnova shares 3D printed adapter to turn snorkeling mask into a n...

It's been only a few days since the world learned about the life-saving effort by a young team of engineers to design and 3D print venturi valves in order to save COVID-19 patients' lives at an Italian Hospital. As further recognition that 3D printing has the potential to deli...

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9:58 PM

here's one that's been trialed on a patient (edited)

ah, fully forgot, please tag such posts with @Deleted User - easy for us to pick it up, thanks

ok

Here's the mot promising looking 3D printable mask I found so far, decent STL could be the basis for a mould perhaps https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4227473 @Deleted User

Respirator by Budash

I hope this helps everyone

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10:04 PM

@Deleted User also this one looks ok https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-print-models/science/biology/reusable-air-mask-from-virus

Reusable Air Mask Respirator and 3 Filters | 3D Print Model

Model available for download in # format Visit CGTrader and browse more than 500K 3D models, including 3D print and real-time assets

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@Timberstar - I went through OVP and some other networks - great work you´ve done there btw ! forum post is updated, We start collecting on the other networks next week. Looks like there are a lot of parts needed also for the ventilator projects.

@Deleted User Great stuff, yes its a brilliant way to document it, I actually think plastics and therefore recycled plastics will have a major role going forward

11:18 PM

first time ive tried the new forum, how exciting!

11:20 PM

i like how it looks, everything compact and easy to see

glad you like it, yeah - i like it too a lot, still needs a final touch but having Markdown & friends at hand is priceless. We´re also getting in touch with other networks (https://app.slack.com/client/T01032CM4CF/C01067S9U12/details/members) to see how PP can play a role. I am convinced all those injectors and extruders out there have lots to do soon :-) god speed, g

bravo man, really

@Timberstar : i made you admin, feel free

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https://www.ktvq.com/news/coronavirus/billings-doctor-finds-inventive-way-to-help-with-shortage-of-medical-maskshttps (edited)

@Deleted User Coronavirus Makers in Spain https://www.coronavirusmakers.org/index.php/es/

Inicio

Web de organización para el grupo Coronavirus Makers

6:21 AM

terrible choice of name though....

Greetings! New person here, planning on joining up just trying to think up a strategy on how to start working with plastics. Good to meet you all.

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When it comes to "makers of Coronavirus" Asian bats are like: "Pssh... Please... way ahead of you... Stupid humans."

terrible choice of name though....

@Timberstar why it's not in english ?

Because it sounds like "makers of Coronavirus." It's ambiguous.

I made a coronavirus once and all I got was this lousy t-shirt

Coronavirus Maker?ｗｈａｔ？

10:22 AM

what's that mean?

You don't need special training, certification, or a patent license to become a "maker" of it. Just go smooch an infected person, and you're a "maker." It might not be popular, but it has definitely "gone viral." Well, let's say "copier" or "reproducer" rather than "maker." (edited)

Also, coronavirus was a stupid name, from the very beginning. Because it's a family of viruses, that includes the common cold. So, we've all had a coronavirus. But now the name has stuck. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Tybo Because it sounds like they are the makers of the virus lol! (edited)

Okay, reposting, so people don't get a 404 error. https://www.ktvq.com/news/coronavirus/billings-doctor-finds-inventive-way-to-help-with-shortage-of-medical-masks

@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio]: 3 cases in Madagascar :( JH dashboard now reports 12. Darn it!

Some germ-ridden moron with a boat, stole my idea!

We're running out of islands to go to. Cases are likely to spike in African countries, simply because they are likely to be under-reported. Keep that in mind.

Idk about Yemen, aren't they still in a major conflict?

Probably. It's hard to keep track of the continent's "secret" wars. Never mind the reported ones.

Sometimes the "lines of communication" at MSNBC and CNN get a bit garbled, and they accidentally report on a war they're not supposed to. And then the Pentagon is like: "Oh... did we not tell Congress we were sending troops there? Oopsie! Must have slipped our minds. Oh, well." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Good thing America is not a Democracy, huh? Otherwise, stuff like that would be troubling, you know?"

The conflict I was thinking of was actually Syria >.>

3:08 PM

and they have 1 confirmed case so there is some form of testing going on there (edited)

They made the map show by county/city in the US instead of state, which makes it a little trickier for me to track statuses

Well, yes... I also had a bit of a brain fart. Maybe because of Libya. Egypt is a "buffer state" in that war. But Yemen is, of course, not on the continent (but close.) But the same kind of thing happens on the continent, all the time. Proxy wars over resources or geo-political influence, between countries that have no business being there. A pandemic in a warzone, is a proper "s&%tshow." Not that the war itself is fantastic, on its own. (edited)

All PPers should get to work sourcing straight sided 2 litre PET bottles and other transparent sheet material to be made into face shields. There may be shortages of this visor material in your area. Anyone with a 3D printer should consider printing headbands: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4236201?fbclid=IwAR1QsLoR9SOILg8xHm4B-N59Bau_Kdb8k9LYL88C3Es59CvdxL2iK4lFpxU

One Size Fits All DIY Face Shield by 3dcauldron

This is a simple one piece face shield frame with built-in adjustable strap. Print it with no supports. Use a heat gun or hairdryer to soften and shape the head band if necessary. The shield can be made from any relatively thin clear plastic. We used paper protectors, but you ...

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@Frederik C (ZA) About the mask thing, what if the filter peices use activated carbon/sanitized cotton/cloth layered filter? https://www.instructables.com/id/Activated-Carbon-Air-Filter/ (edited)

Activated Carbon Air Filter

Activated Carbon Air Filter: This instructable shows you how to make an air purifier to filter pollutants such as tobacco smoke, solder fumes and many other organic materials out of the air that you breathe.

Maybe. Still hoping there is a very low-tech design that almost anyone can make at home with minimal equipment. I don't think maker spaces alone can make enough, despite best efforts.

@Timberstar I don't have CAD tools. What are the dimensions of the "extender hood" part? The "crown" can be made with extra large cable ties. (I did it with 3 large ones.) Maybe we can make the "hood" from cardboard.

5:19 PM

Or just light compacted board. Get someone to quickly CNC dozens out of one sheet. (?) Probably as close to mass production as we can get.

5:23 PM

Depends on how rigid it has to be. Otherwise LDPE foam maybe. Can be cut by hand.

It's interesting that people in positions of authority continue to look for solutions from the same governments and corporations that did nothing to prevent this situation.

I don't mean using a fan or anything I mean the diy filter pads

6:17 PM

make the charcoal (aka activated carbon) medium out of bamboo or hemp (edited)

6:19 PM

I like the idea of also making a foldable paper/cardboard mask so a shipment of them and the filter pads could fit 200 per box

6:20 PM

Use a laser cnc to cut the peices so it's a quick couple easy folds of the single peice of cardboard.

@Frederik C (ZA) thingiverse is timing out

https://www.foldscope.com/

Foldscope Instruments | Magnify Your Curiosity

Foldscope is the affordable, paper microscope that you assemble yourself. Designed to be inexpensive, durable, and to give optical quality similar to conventional research microscopes, Foldscope brings hands-on microscopy to new places!

6:23 PM

Something sort of like this as an oragami hazmat sort of hood, maybe also make similiar easy to ship full body cover that would just need gloves. (edited)

From: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/going-war-butter-knife/608428/ "A few weeks ago the CDC said physicians needed N95 masks. Later, it said surgical masks would suffice. This week, it said bandanas and scarves can be used as a last resort. The physicians said they believe these shifting guidelines are driven by equipment shortages, and not the actual safety of health-care workers." Good guess. Solid detective work, there.

Thingiverse server is down

The thingiverse servers are notoriously bad, hopefully we just need to give it time

yeah, was already pretty slow

@Titankore.ai An N95 mask captures 95% of particles down to 0.3 micron. Interesting idea on activated carbon - does the product spec sheet define the micron size it can filter?

@Deleted User how beefy are PPs servers? Could they handle mirroring that download?

I don't know

6:48 PM

our are beefy and beyond

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I can already feel it... When we start prototyping these things, we're going to have to post... selfies.

Holy s%$t! It really is the end of the world.

wait til mask fashion takes hold (edited)

Sat here staring at the wall...just realised all these Ikea picture frames have plastic (not glass) that would be perfect for screens.

https://nypost.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-outbreak-travelers-cover-heads-with-plastic-bottles-to-dodge-disease/

Coronavirus outbreak: Travelers cover heads with plastic bottles to...

Desperate times call for desperate measures for travelers trying to ward off the deadly coronavirus – with some covering their heads with plastic bottles, according to a report. Images have emerged…

that's a creepy version of Precious Plastic indeed

proving how precious it is... I quite like this one,https://see.news/water-bottles-double-maskssee-how-chinese-face-coronavirus-2/

Water Bottles, Double Masks…See How Chinese Face Coronavirus

A state of panic is now prevailing worldwide, specifically in China, after the rapid outbreak of Coronavirus, which caused the

Does that actually work?

7:37 PM

Could we make plastic face masks?

it might help improve chances, especially when combined with a face mask..

7:41 PM

not ideal for frontline medics obviously but might be useful to someone in need, or also for sick people who are forced to quarantine with family

I'm looking for someone to produce somewhat of a bulk of plastic sheets. Where do I go?

This design seems promising: https://www.3dwasp.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/protection-helmet-MY-SPACE-front--683x1024.jpg

7:48 PM

https://www.3dwasp.com/casco-di-protezione-ventilato/?fbclid=IwAR3j9wuiNpCYcAN_wQnIDfJtVuAhvguCGvNgwdWrhAu1ibmKSVwaqV6HsCc

Well... Our national lockdown was just announced an hour ago. Starts on Thursday at midnight. Planning just became partially pointless for me.

No telling what happens next. Historically, military in the streets does not go well in my country.

Worrying times, hopefully fear of the virus (and each other) will keep most people off the streets. Good luck

Let us try to see it as an oppurtunity to get some new hobbies or gain some new skills

I have been fermenting a ton of stuff the last few days, and i plan on getting back into python as well. Hopefully staying inside can at least be somewhat beneficial (i mean, besides flattening the curve of course, which is VERY neat)

I've not been on here so much in that couple of weeks. I've been doing what I can to get stuff sorted for family and friends. Will check in more often now.

I'm not not a "prepper" because I think it's stupid. I comment on human stupidity every day. I've known the crap was going to hit the fan, for years. I'm not a prepper because I can't afford it.

(edited)

I am not a prepper either, but i kinda like parts of the prepper lifestyle. You don't have to go back many years to a time where it was completely normal to store a years worth of food (with home canned/ fermented vegetables and so on). And while i love the convenience of going to a modern grocery store, there is part of that lifestyle that is very attractive to me. Plus, "Doomsday preppers" is such a hilarious show

I'm actually more worried that the government can't enforce the lockdown. There are areas the size of New York City, that the local police are too afraid to go into. The potential for escalation of violence is pretty big.

That is scary. Some of the criminal organizations must be seeing real opportunity in these times, sadly

Ironically, they might be the least dangerous. They might actually be getting their "bunkers" ready. "Mob justice" is a frequent occurrence in the slums. The community blockades a street and torches the houses of known gangsters. (edited)

It's one of the reasons "middle management" drug dealers in SA prefer rental accommodation.

My best friend actually accidentally rented his house to one. The cops raided the house. Never skimp on background checks.

I actually kinda like the upsides of the virus. I haven't left the house much since 24 months anyways, no big difference to me

And now there is kinda break for everybody, I hope folks'r using it for good. I heard many times now that some areas had the first time good air to breath. I also hope this could be the end of capitalism, a minimum wage and solid programs to entertain and educate folks to build a better world. I am dreaming, please don't wake me up

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One thing i really like is that each time i talk to companies/ customer support and stuff like that (stuff that is normally quite formal), we have become super friendly and caring. Each mail is ended with "please take care of yourself and those around you, and stay safe". That is super nice

@Frederik C (ZA) UK just went into lockdown too

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@Timberstar : nice work today (https://forum.precious-plastic.org/t/projects-open-source/71), thanks a million! @Makers : there´s a call for help on this project : https://www.oxygen.protofy.xyz/ (https://twitter.com/jcanadellb/status/1242027504405225473?s=19) (edited)

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they´re running out of ´methacrylate´ which seems to address regulations, best ventilator we´ve seen so far til now https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=v-F1WAANbk8&feature=emb_title

Oxygen Generation

Oxygen Iteration 5

@Deleted User That is super neat, and seems very easy to build. The name is a bit confusing though, are you meant to connect it to an oxygen tank, or can it simply use normal air?

Due to the fact I work at a factory that makes personal hygiene products I was today given a letter to show cops and public officials I can leave my house even during a lockdown

11:00 PM

As it's considered critical infrastructure, we are converting tanks to sanitizer production

@Titankore.ai You'll have so many "friends" soon.

I mean your popularity will be through the roof. You can "get stuff." (edited)

Oh already been giving away extra sanitation wipes, bleach and hand salve to friends, families and neighbors I get through work.

11:17 PM

During these times we gotta do our best to help eachother through it

That's actually related to an important factor in prepping. You shouldn't tell people about your prepping. Because then your house is "the place to go" for supplies. The less everyone knows, the better. Unless you have a "bug out" strategy. Meaning you have a stocked bunker, in an undisclosed location. So, you can leave your house behind. Assuming it's not mobile.

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Can someone explain why PP folks, with suppose to be 70K forum users but have near nothing to say or add these days ? From what I understood, there must be thousands of machines out there but non of them produced a single ventilator part or mask, please prove me wrong

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PP generally hasn't officially worked with other open source projects as far as I am familiar. Plus those parts have to be at a high level of precision/sanitation that would be at the moment unwise to use recycled plastic for 3d printing respirators. I suggest that current groups focus on things that improve sanitation like making shower tents for homeless people as well as parts for relief depots. (edited)

yeah, was just wondering, the amount of skills & resources hanging and lurking around here, and yet kinda nothing ...

12:47 AM

anyways, Friday our team has to decide on something. we have also some budget to push for things. (edited)

I think UV-C light will play a crucial role in fighting this

I think it's a matter of the fact that in the places most in need of direct usage get closed down due to quarantine. What we need is one or more of the group's in this community in an area not currently locked down providing some kind of service like I mentioned with the showers thing, which would work to show the possible emergency applications of Precious plastic to provide fabricating things not readily provided but drastically help

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@Timberstar , @Titankore.ai you´re both the biggest hero here in this story, wasn´t meant to be offensive (edited)

@Deleted User To be honest I think most people are busy shitting their pants, with good reason

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I didn't take it as such, I too am frustrated with the lack of action when this community can provide so much assistance to their irl communities.

yeah - panic never helped, but PP machines do

Scottish hospital has apparently requested these: https://sites.google.com/view/aerosolbox/design

Aerosol Box - Design

12:57 AM

Seems that transparent plastics will be in demand for many items

Could HDPE used to make toys?

1:06 AM

Been looking everywhere, only place that says it's used to create green army men.

@Uplifted HDPE is considered food safe

I ask because it seems most common I come across.

@Uplifted It's also the easiest and least dangerous to work with (edited)

Been resources to make face shields along with the current 3d printing projects. PETG shortages are starting to happen. The printed had bands have a prototype injection moldable version, watching for it to drop.

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@Deleted User https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50-sR54UBgY I think vacuum forming really should be considered, the machine is very simple to build

uiproductions

Homemade vacuum forming a helmet

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1:13 AM

So simple it has been rather overlooked

1:15 AM

It doesn't have too many applications other than making packaging, but could be good for transparent medical stuff, maybe visors/helmets? (edited)

COVID-19 headband for injection, from Dustintweir in the Prusa Face Shields Slack working group.

covid19-headband-im1.stl

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I propose a new channel might be in order? A precious plastic"emergency aid" one focused on how the existing spaces could help their area?

From experience, getting the admins to agree to new channels is tough, even under regular circumstances. Just start a server and post an invite. You'll need more than one channel for it to make sense, as you've probably seen from the OSV server, which now also seems to be dead. It makes more sense to work regionally or localized, now. The locals know what the reality on the ground is. Foreigners can't understand the context of everything, and in emergency response there isn't time to explain everything to death. Communications has to be military style. Short, simple, to the point. (edited)

@Deleted User best one so far https://open-mask.org/?fbclid=IwAR2djYp42Z1Xw1GjYqUPqd68p-iaCwnVvRMm8JpRjJDKYgOO96kBioAe_tc (edited)

Mike R

Welcome

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Hi, I'm new here and searching for a Shredder workspace. The point is... I work at a Lithium ion battery factory, and we make batteries. the batteries are pack in a lot ( really really a lot..) Expanded Polyethylene foam. is there someone who can help me?

@Ramon : where are you, any pictures ?

11:10 PM

finally a real film, Guy Ritchie's 'The gentlemen' (vhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt8367814/) beats them all; gonna setup a secure torrent line foya guys, spain is paradize like nobody is watching

(edited)

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Hey All, Some great conversations about COVID-19 products going on here. We think there is real potential to create meaningful solutions if we work together on this so we have created the temporary #deleted-channel channel! Lets talk there and make something happen!

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1:28 AM

From experience, getting the admins to agree to new channels is tough, even under regular circumstances. Just start a server and post an invite. You'll need more than one channel for it to make sense, as you've probably seen from the OSV server, which now also seems to be dead. It makes more sense to work regionally or localized, now. The locals know what the reality on the ground is. Foreigners can't understand the context of everything, and in emergency response there isn't time to explain everything to death. Communications has to be military style. Short, simple, to the point.

@Frederik C (ZA) Sometimes the admins listen

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Anyone need HDPE regrind?

4:25 AM

I have tons available in USA. Clean and ready to use. Perfect for extrusion. Probably stiff for injection.

@Rory - Sustainable Design Studio : we're consolidating all found ideas/projects currently tracked on the new forum on Friday to see what can be done PP wise. We output a mardkown report on Github as well. For now it seems rather a hard thing to utilize PP machines. Masks are taken care of and what's left are small parts for ventilators but apparently this can be done much faster with acrylic plates.

@Ramon Hello Ramon. You said you work at a Lithium ion battery factory. Where do you work? Is it in the states or another country? You are asking for a shredder work space, I have 4 shredders right now.

Hello everbody, Nice to be here! I'm from Milan, Italy. I'm a designer engineer. I work in the R&D of a startup which design a portable CNC and everyday I design solutions for this machine. I also design molds for resin cast, bench tests and I'm well versed on prototyping. I hope someone in here comes from my city and has the desire and means to collaborate in the creation of a workspace.

Hello all, name is Jim I live in Flint Michigan. Me and my wife are slowly starting 3d print business. In these times we are about to being making masks and other medical equipment for medical personnel. We are using our savings to get this started and both of us are massage therapists with limited incomes. That being said I am looking into finding equipment to process trash plastics into building materials. Unfortunately I lack all mechanic skills to produce any of the machines on my own. Finding someone who could build the machines will cost me quite a bit more than finding a business which sells what I need. I am hoping while I learn this new trade and grow in knowledge I could find a kind soul here to help me get started in this endeavor. My goal first is to supply Filament then later building materials such as planks, siding, 2 x 4’s .

Exactly how am I supposed to do anything bout the lockdown and make anything? All my suppliers are closed. We are restricted to the house and i got sick peopl here in my neighborhood. Day 11 lockdown here.

I figured out what to do with my color copy of the plastic types - binder cover sheet! Now I just have to start filling the binder with Precious Plastic stuff and ideas

@Deleted User Our company is in Hengelo (OV), The netherlands. I need a place nearby to ship it too.

@Deleted User list of currently available projects https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTYAfldxoIiO46VAWH1NlhrwFBn9mguqS2bh1spnLEu4AVVN1cj1vaEm6vOp5Z6UnaAbUwd8dslCXdM/pubhtml

Might as well use the lockdown period for something useful. I've registered a company named "Plastic Recycle" and now I want to make a wodden name tag (50 cm length and 25 cm height). I'm low on ideas how to make it look good. 1. Do I just write the name and forget about the fancy pancy look? 2. Do I go for the fancy pancy visual? Low on ideas here. 3. Is there another way? Hit me with your ideas.

Just use a wooden back panel and get a sheet from the sheetpress and cut the letters out and screw/glue it together. You can use the sheet with the letters being the visible wood or use the cutouts and have wood as tje background

10:57 PM

@Cookieman

i like the idea. THanks

Hi all, we are a mother and daughter team from the US starting with a collection point. We are in the process of finishing our first shredder--so excited! We were wondering if anybody had good tips on how to remove labels. Everyone in our community is so excited about us starting they have been giving us plastics with labels on and they are very difficult to remove. Thanks for your input, so happy to finally be here! Andrea and Judian, The A Team

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heat gun or hair dryer

Thanks, I was thinking of trying that.

I bought a old shredder For shredding PET and no in the process of trying to crystallize the regrind to put into a extruder. I have the regrind in a rotating container with approximately 170F air blowing through. Some of the thicker pieces of PET will crystallize but the thin will not. I was thinking all of the PET regrind would crystallize but if i keep in in longer the Thin pieces will just melt? Can anyone enplane or answer what I'm doing wrong?

Hey everyone! Is there someone who knows stuff about wood processing with larger quantities? We are currently doing a feasibility analysis and a few numbers would really help us out! We are interested in cnc milling and probably coating of 100-1000 pieces. We are trying to build something from wood and precious plastic

Shoot me a message, any input is highly appreciated! (edited)

Hi everyone,. I would like to start a project in Mali. How can i create a forum here? Thanks

@🤙v4-team Please add Mali to the Africa channels.

@JDJ Welcome.... Got your message on Ghana forum...

@SIPP-Plastics thanks

9:07 PM

@🤙v4-team Please add Mali to the Africa channels.

@Frederik C (ZA) Thanks

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hi all im totally new to here and to the upcycling, re using and precious plastic idea. im in England and do not know any other people from England on here so far.

10:29 AM

I was wondering if there is any place I can buy or rent a sheet plastic press or any other equipment that I might need? im more interested in making sheets for work tops/furniture ect but would rather not make my own press, washer ect if I can help it

Hi @bex28 , try asking in #deleted-channel . You will probably find people who can help you. Good luck! Stay healthy!

hey new here as well, can anyone point me towards tutorials for making products with really thin hdpe plastic sheets? sorry if this is the wrong place to ask

sorry if this is the wrong place to ask Not so much wrong place, as wrong time, maybe. A lot of the "pros" are slightly busy with the "Zombie Apocalypse."

What do you mean by thin @sleepymana ?

So basically I've got these thin plastic sheets which I think could be used to make some sort of product

4:23 PM

And I was wondering if there are any guides on how to manipilate plastic to make products safely with some examples

good point @Frederik C (ZA)

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The Johns Hopkins dashboard team made a serious typo on their reported C19 cases page.

in 2-3 months this might be still a good number

I don't see the mistake. The death numbers are noted in parentheses on the list below?

10:15 PM

Its not a mistake, its more of a reading clarity issue

only 135 recovered in the uk?

possible, yeah - checking the feed 3 times the day, makes sense.

i guess they don't sign them off until the end of the quarantine period

People....

If that was the actual C19 death rate, (taking into account that a final "worst case" total is about 19.25 million, globally) you should just be partying and enjoying the last days of modern civilization. Because that would literally be what you're looking at. Keep some perspective. (edited)

current prediction is that 40-70% get infected, in one way or another, makes sense to me - that´s why we´re preparing for 12 months confinement.

2:37 PM

I guess mother earth got her well deserved break. Did you see places in China are revolting against the confinement ?

I'm in a BRICS country. So, in our media the "official" position is that everything is always "fine" in China. Or they'll stop paying our politicians.

Also, nothing bad ever happens in Russia, either. Our "comrades" know exactly what they're doing.

I haven't been on Twitter in a while, so I'm not keeping up with international headlines (or the "alternative news" of what's really happening.) However, Twitter is a raging cesspool of banality at the best of times, so I figure it's best to stay off it, at the moment. I'm engaging in "rational ignorance," so to speak.

For 90s kids, like me...

I'll stop the world and melt for you

that's true. hahahaha (edited)

For 90s kids, like me...

@Frederik C (ZA) then you gonna love this movie : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5613484/ (pm for download)

Mid90s (2018) - IMDb

Directed by Jonah Hill. With Sunny Suljic, Katherine Waterston, Lucas Hedges, Na-kel Smith. Follows Stevie, a thirteen-year-old in 1990s-era Los Angeles who spends his summer navigating between his troubled home life and a group of new friends that he meets at a Motor Avenue ...

Interesting... I've never heard of that. Maybe later. I still have to research the online platforms I talked about. It might help to have a good handle on something by the time the locals are ready to pull their heads out of their butts.

Hiya Guys I'm looking for some items to make free face shields for front line health workers we need 0.5mm pvc roll and 0.8mm polypropylene sheet we have the equipment and staff to make up to 200 a day can anyone help?

@ChrisHunnisett I sadly won't be able to help, but it might be worth adding your location, to make it easier

7:50 PM

@ChrisHunnisett I sadly won't be able to help, but it might be worth adding your location, to make it easier

good point sorry

7:51 PM

I'm in Eastbourne South East UK

@ChrisHunnisett sent you a PM for clarification, better to follow COVID chan for these things

So question, may or may not be off topic, I've found quite a few computers such as laptops and desktops during my work. Broken or slightly damaged. I was wondering if there was anything I could do with them that will keep them out of the landfill and make them useful for others.

@Uplifted Where are you based? I have a friend in UK that manages REBOOT exactly for this purpose (edited)

In the US California.

1:04 AM

It was either this, or I would find someone who did precious metal recovery. And recover what I could from them if I couldn't do anything else.

@Uplifted if you can get them working yes if not there are various companies in the uk that will buy the parts but you will need to strip them to get any kind of return, where are you?

1:33 AM

@Uplifted Eastbourne, Southeast uk

1:35 AM

@Uplifted do you have a link for reboot please

Link for reboot? I don't.

1:56 AM

Again, I am in the United States, Oakland, California.

@Uplifted DIYPerks has a lot of videos using old laptops for stuff. Here is a recentish one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLP_L7Mgz6M

DIY Perks

Things you can make from old, dead laptops

These sound neat. I especially like the charging stations.

@Uplifted it's not too difficult to recover gold yourself, it's mostly in the processors and the ram sticks, www.goldrefiningforum.com for info. Be warned there is very little gold and it can take over a large portion of your life.

That's fine. If I do that, I intend to do so for the sake of an investment than I would if I did it for selling.

I'd say more as a learning exercise, there really is not very much

True, true.

10:26 AM

just under 3g, it took me about 6 years in total from the start of collecting scrap. Double refined, theoretically should be .999

10:27 AM

over 100 laptops and at least 50 mobile phones

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Wow nice work though.

over 100 laptops and at least 50 mobile phones

Jeeeeeze. 0.0

thanks

10:27 AM

will make a wedding ring one day

That's actually what I was thinking of too. Heh.

Do it

I can share my methods

For what it's worth it's still gold after all.

10:29 AM

Thanks! That'd be great. :D

RAM sticks are easiest as the gold is plated onto the surface of the board. Hyrochloric acid is used with a small amount of hydrogen peroxide to dissolve the layer of copper which the gold is plated onto. This releases flakes of gold into the liquid. These can be filtered out with a coffee filter and then refined. Refining is done with Hydrochloric plus bleach which dissolves the gold itself. The resulting gold solution is then filtered, and Sodium Metabisulfate added to drop the gold back as a solid (powder in the bottom). Wash this with water, dry it and then melt into a blob with a blowtorch. Be very careful as these processes produce dangerous gasses and use strong acids. Use correct PPE and do a lot of research before you start.

10:40 AM

To get gold out of chips you have to carbolize them first ie burn them, then crush them small, and extract from the ashes. Its a more difficult process.

Hi Everyone, I distribute gearboxes that are able to increase torque in Shredders...let me know if someone is interested.

Does any one know to to file the blade spacers? I got my part cut but the spaces are about 0.001 in to large and does not allow the blades to spin freely.

@Uplifted is this them? https://www.rebootrepairs.co.uk/contact/

@ChrisHunnisett I think it might be. I'm not quite sure. It seems to be the place. (edited)

8:22 PM

@Timberstar Thank you for this information. It will be of great use to me especially. I don't know when I think I'd be able to get to over a 100 laptops and 50 cell phones. I mean I do have quite a bit of machinery. I think I may have 20 laptops and probably in the range of 10 phones. But I think I can come up with an idea on what to use them for if I can't do anything else until then.

8:23 PM

I'll certainly look into the Reboot though, thank you @ChrisHunnisett for finding the site.

fab we have made some progress today but still struggling with the visor plastic, I'm going to take a monitor apart I can't remember if there is a clear plastic in there

8:27 PM

@Timberstar are there any tutorials online for this process

@Uplifted yes but beware of youtube, there are many methods shown and not all are safe. Best to join the forum at goldrefiningforum.com and get chatting. They're a good crowd.

@Timberstar fab thank you

plastic wins

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Hi everyone

I'm Sebastian from Guatemala, with friends have been collecting plastic and other materials since 2017, in this moment we collect 1ton of plastic weekly. When we started, we built the injection machine and bought a shredder. But was imposible to find molds to use the injection machine. Today we talked about give some use to the machines making face shields but we can't find any place in the country to make the mold. If you want to know more about the project, follow us with "@somoscirculo". We'll be very grateful to know somebody who can make molds

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@Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio] Its not a mistake, its more of a reading clarity issue Okay, I understand now. The numbers in brackets are the reported death rates. But it's still really ambiguous if you're not used to that way of notation.

@Deleted User Even Zuckerberg is getting the point now. Astounding

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/31/facebook-launches-a-global-version-of-its-community-help-feature-in-response-to-the-covid-19-pandemic/

Sarah Perez

Facebook launches a global version of its Community Help feature in...

Facebook first launched its Community Help feature in 2017, to give users a way to offer assistance, search for help and receive help in the wake of a crisis. The feature has since been used to connect Facebook users after man-made, accidental and natural disasters, like terro...

yeah, We're speechless here too

hey there! My name is Haley and I am a newbie from Los Angeles. Wanted to see how i can help locally beyond donating so I would be super interested in connecting with someone from LA

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Wanted to introduce myself a bit more, I live in Oakland California, I've worked in the trash industry for maybe going on 6 years as of now. My job has been to maintain trash areas, on site sorting, door step pick up, and hauling away bulk items such as furniture and large appliances that people often store in bin areas. Ultimately the purpose behind this is to make sure to make sure recycling is recycled, compost is composted, trash is in the trash, large items don't fill the bins and are transferred to where they need to go, and so on. Often at times I do happen to find useful items. Computers, clothes, types of plastic toys, gently used furniture, and other resources I have often had to begrudgingly toss away.

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10:34 PM

I hope to find a way to help the environment, to start making a shredder, extruder, make some cool things, refurbish some quality products and make some money on the side.

The conspiracy goes deep...

What adorable villains!

well, imagine how many little rich ·$%"$%&·$%& can´t shoot them right now

Hi everyone ! I would like to build a shredder but can't find the link to download the plan to build the pro shredder... How can I find it ?

For me I think every information about PP is separated. Some people share in Discord, while some do in forum. That is why our admin have #updates bot but I think it is not enough for new people who wants to start recycling. So my suggestion, or little idea is to make an app. By recyclers for recyclers. I know this is not easy. It might not be worth it. But this is the only thing I can do. My workspace is in Indonesia and I am in Japan. Please let me know if I can help. I will try my best. Feel free to disagree to my idea. I wanted to give an option.

4:55 PM

@Deleted User All the link should be in one place. In accademy. But sometimes things are missing. Try to find someone who already downloaded a long time ago and ask her or him to send it.

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Just sharing what is in loop in the lab at the moment https://nostraofficial.bandcamp.com/album/nemoralis Music for an apocalypse (a project from a friend with whom I made music in another life) Find it quite motivating to keep up, not easy listening if you are afraid of guitars!

Nemoralis, by Nostra

7 track album

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Hi everyone - This is Pedro from Spain. We need to contact the precious plastics Spanish community to join our Telegram group that is producing adaptors to connect Decathlon scuba-diving masks to ventilators. Please help and join our telegram chat https://t.me/conector3D_mascaraDecathlon

Respirador con máscara Decathlon

Impresión 3D para conector máscara Decathlon

Te he enviado un privado Pedro

@peds , what´s the problem?

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland , try this one instead (real talent at the decks, it´s underground), keeps things flowing as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2z2u58ma0 (edited)

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Greetings from #deleted-channel! My name is Vantharith, and I'm based in Phnom Penh. i'm now working on setting up a workshop (shredding machine to begin with) - still very early stage. And start talking to like-minded people to start Precious Plastic community in town. (edited)

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@peds , what´s the problem?

@Deleted User There is a big community of makers 3d printing parts for the healthcare system. I wonder wether PP could inyection molded in order to produce more volume. Currently they are printing two parts per day per 3d printer

@peds right now I am only aware of a couple of faceshield mask moulds : https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to | you have a link to the parts needed ? (edited)

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thank you!

@Deleted User @PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland This is what my apocalypse is sounding like today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anLrtqfs_Y0 (edited)

ϜNL KNDM MSC

PK45 // YOYOYO

@Timberstar geez, not easy to get a smile back on the face with that sound; switch channel dude, http://ibizasonica.com/ great for the morning, after miday https://www.fip.fr/ is doing well :-)))

yea youre right

12:15 PM

hey who speaks spanish? always wanted to know what this song is about... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdvsPrxN4V8&fbclid=IwAR0UQ87gp0l3xeH-FnoChW7D8r8Wm9hV0NGe_B27i4eIr8SIg7wkKrl9C7E

Geoffrey ALARCÓN

Danit Treubig - Guacamayo

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@Timberstar basically it´s song about thanking someone else, for the trust, friendship, and even the smell of the hair....

3:50 PM

nice catch btw.

3:51 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=Danit+Treubig+-+Guacamayo+lyrics&oq=Danit+Treubig+-+Guacamayo+lyrics&aqs=chrome..69i57.4019j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

now youtube is censoring anything which contains possible treatments or help coming from popular healer/spiritual channels, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8DJalOjrYU&feature=youtu.be (see description text). you can call this also genocide .

LA CAJA DE PANDORA

COMUNICADO ACLARATORIO POR EL CIERRE DEL CANAL LA CAJA DE PANDORA E...

4:02 PM

I guess the "officials" want to make sure you die the "official" way, dare you do something else.

Many minds are using the pandemic to further their cause(s) which may be a tighter grip control on humanity with less human rights. I like the approach of South Korea where I saw a health minister interviewed by BBC and her statements that the government was working to win the trust of the citizens in doing the right thing. Controlling religious/spiritual beliefs over a pandemic is the exact opposite of that. Like the minister that was arrested because he had a large gathering in church. Instead of instituting health policies that would allow group worship (safely) the answer was to arrest a minister.

I wonder humanity will ever get over this cruelty - it seems to have always the same origin : power, pride, ego, ... sick bastards. conspiracy theories say this has been setup long ago when I remember right (zeit geist)

food security will become the number 1 issue. we need to move rapidly towards a localized production and supply chain. the time to start a garden would be now.

Most people are not prepared for or have the resources for canning which is an ideal solution for much of this as it needs no refrigeration and can be done in house. The next best is dry goods (rice, peanuts, dried peas (really really good) even popcorn to watch movies when the kids are bouncing off the walls). Food and ATM lines are the very most dangerous situation from my observation(s). 5 people allowed inside the building but a long line of people outside. Face shields protect frontal but when someone coughs or sneezes that is partly time dependent. Waiting 20 minutes in a line becomes a scary proposition. Elimination of public transportation is supposed to be paramount but I was seeing news today of shoulder to shoulder in NY subway system as they have reduced routes scheduling......scary stuff. They are saying affluent are not affected as much as they can "afford" to stay home and the poorer hit the hardest.

4:52 PM

What I did the only time I've been out in the last 2 weeks was to make a clear vinyl shield that is hung from a straw hat. I sewed the clear vinyl to a polypropylene recycled ecobag for protection from the rear. Face shield made in about 2 minutes then sewn to ecobag for rear. I used a common (non n95) face mask but took a T shirt and made a ninja mask out of it only exposing my eyes.

how about a precious plastic 'brick' for vertical gardening? https://growingfamily.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Gardena-NatureUp-vertical-gardening-system-1024x731.jpg

Has anyone heard of the projects that companies are trying to turn plastic back into oil that can then be burned in Motors and stuff like that? I've been thinking about it and I was wondering if that's something that can be done on a smaller scale at a reasonable price that way you can turn all the plastic that can't be shredded in melted down into something else back into a usable product.

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@Beginner's Tech I already know few groups and companies already trying that...but that is not a best way of recycling. Precious Plastic machines can not work with PVC and trying to figure out a way to work with PET. The reasons are that those two types release harmful fumes. And you should not melt them if you are not an expert at it because it will have negative effect on nature. I think plastic that is not able to be processed with Precious Plastic machines will work with turning it back to oil. I am not an expert on plastic, so hopefully other people will help you.

@Lazy_Turtle yeah it is not the best way to recycle plastic but for plastic that is mixed or too hard to reuse in precious plastic machines and is safe to melt down it would be a viable option to atleast reuse it. I don't know how much plastic you need per a gallon or oil but it would maybe be a way to run a modified generator or something to power a few tools or a shop if it can produce enough oil

@Beginner's Tech Alright, cool

12:33 PM

Hold on I will send a link

12:34 PM

https://www.permaculturenews.org/2014/03/21/home-scale-conversion-plastics-oil/ I have no prior knowledge, so trust the website

John Oliver on YouTube conspiracy videos, a.k.a. let's not get distracted.

Doesn't mean you get distracted. But it is fun to ponder.

https://vimeo.com/404759136?fbclid=IwAR2qjpGdvxbBBH7N9ml5vhfE2Ccwo_2OCX0IUD_obXcIc5sqjn2J5LEfqcs, another video deleted by youtube

11:55 PM

the guy says there is no 'covid19'

icke is a well-known lunatic who believes in reptilian overlords etc (edited)

yes, i know- still - interesting

11:57 PM

reptile overlords ? i like it though (edited)

he's terrible because he confuses and draws attention away from the real issues and makes real investigators look bad (edited)

he actually looks like a reptile

(edited)

12:01 AM

ok, mate - next subject please

12:03 AM

you're right - the guy should be smashed with a hammer for at least 2 days

the latest Anonymous video seems pretty accurate, calling out the WHO (edited)

@Lazy_Turtle if I created oil at my house I could use it to fuel my car? (edited)

@Uplifted I am not an expert on plastic, but few people already tried that in my country, Japan. http://www.blest.co.jp/eng/ I am not responsible for explosions, you are

6:25 AM

I am pretty sure that the machines would be more expensive than Precious Plastic machines

how about a precious plastic 'brick' for vertical gardening? https://growingfamily.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Gardena-NatureUp-vertical-gardening-system-1024x731.jpg

@Timberstar thats a great idea

@davehakkens are you still in Bangladesh? How you keeping?

nope, found a sketchy way back into the Netherlands. We have a new adventure coming up.. We got kicked out of the workspace

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happy to see Dave moving in our workshop, working on v5

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@Lazy_Turtle : that was a joke, more for insiders

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@Deleted User that was mean.

well, imagine what if that would be true ?

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i was

Wait so did he get kicked out?

hi everyone, is there a shredder that shreds 4x4mm ?

@koen do you already have a shredder or are you looking for it?

@Timberstar : ok , I stop trying to be funny

12:28 PM

@koen : v4 shredder will

12:30 PM

@Lazy_Turtle 'kicked out', i remember the place was for free only for a year or so;

Oh... by the city or something?

yeah, something like that

@koen watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFIPXgrk7u0&list=PLE46712F10AA99DD4&index=57, and view from 10 minutes, dave will explain how to change the size

Precious Plastic - Build the shredder

12:32 PM

VIEW FROM 10:00

@Lazy_Turtle I don't have one yet. I wanna start something but first wanna check what options there are

12:33 PM

@Lazy_Turtle thanks

12:33 PM

So add a mesh, it will change the size of flakes

ok thanks Ryoma

Virtual handshakes does not spread the virus

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Not sure if this is the best place for this but ill try. I need a motor and gearbox for the shredder. I cant seem to get any here in Ireland for less that 500 euro and I cant afford that. Is there anybody out there that can help me out?

@quinsworth not sure about delivery to Ireland but you could try contacting sellers on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bonfiglioli-worm-gearbox-motor-assembly-30-1-box-1-5kw-motor-Pre-owned/153885073404?hash=item23d443dffc:g:M-8AAOSwDaFeWtv9

Bonfiglioli worm gearbox/motor assembly. 30/1 box & 1.5kw motor. Pr...

Bonfiglioli worm gearbox/Motovario & ABB motor assembly. 30/1 box & 1.5kw motor. Has been running on machinery recently. Gearbox output bore is 35mm. Motor shaft input to the gearbox is 24mm. Motor is 3-phase 1420 rpm Gearbox ratio is 30/1 VGC. No noise or overheating. PRICE ...

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nope, found a sketchy way back into the Netherlands.

Good to hear, @davehakkens

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1:27 PM

I hope we'll see the "sketchy" bit in a video.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h0g6 @davehakkens Precious Plastic feature on the BBC

BBC Radio 4 - Costing the Earth, Fantastic Plastic

How people in developing countries can turn plastic waste from a problem into a solution

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4:52 PM

live now on bbc radio 4

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12:08 AM

If Bill Gates knows something is going to happen, it's not a revelation. Here's his TED Talk from 2015. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI

TED

The next outbreak? We’re not ready | Bill Gates

@Lazy_Turtle it seems that's either expired or I can't reach it where I am. If expired perhaps it's in an archive?

@Uplifted I think it expired...I am not an tech-guy or discord-guy, but I don't know if there is an archive.

Found it. No problem thanks for the link man. ^^

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Here's John Oliver's take on Ted Turner's leaked doomsday video from the CNN archive. (Yeah, that's a thing.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC_gXD5OE88 The connection to the Titanic is two-fold. They didn't have enough life-boats. We don't have enough PPE. It got me thinking about other time-capsule messages intended for scenarios where those who find it, may not be members of our species. Vsauce on the Voyager message https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QPcclYWOr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrBIKOR01c The Verge: Decoding the Voyager Golden Record https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRuovINxpPc There's also a time-capsule on the moon. And The Long Now Foundation builds hidden monuments meant to be recoverable and decipherable, 10 000 years from now.

Doomsday Video: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

looks like we have a new member who's already doing PP think tank work, with 13, we´re very impressed. Let's say hello to the new member of the month @Lazy_Turtle , from Japan.

@Deleted User Thanks!

12:51 PM

Schools are closed so I have more time for this than normal

Hey I´m Eduardo from Portugal but currently living in Valencia (Spain). I´m with two other friends from Universitat Politecnica de Valencia and we are trying to join some money and start constructing a shredder first. We have applied for a crowdfunding platform to see if someone is interested in helping us

Keep in touch

can someone tell me which glue is needed to stick 2 pieces of PEHD 2 together

@Deleted User there are a number of good forum posts : https://www.google.com/search?q=glue+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&oq=glue+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&aqs=chrome..69i57j33.22191j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8. (edited)

4:03 PM

I guess that´s another example of degradation, from 70.000 forum members down to 20 active Discord users

Damn, I really miss that flair now we had

4:04 PM

many thanks PP

4:06 PM

Hello presicous plastic discord. Hope you are all keeping well in this hectic world we live in. Good to see you guys are making the most of isolation and still creating wonderful pieces. I'm not sure if it is appropriate that I post here, but I was wondering whether anyone here would be interested in a joint venture. I'm a digital marketer by profession and have run a couple of successful e-commerce stores. I'm looking to find a partner who can help create my very simple designs (cut from sheets). I would be in charge of marketing and fulfilment. I can provide further details to anyone who is interested. Apologies if this isn't an appropriate place for this post, and feel free to delete Many thanks

example of degradation I think more like "economy of words." People are mostly asking: "Is this important right now?" It's "crunch time" now, with local co-ordination. Besides my own servers, I've muted almost everything else. Too much happening. Information overload (more than usual.) For me, it's about seeing if people more technically competent than me will step up. (Like waiting for community points, again, only more serious.) I can predict the answer.

@Deleted User : Hi, this is more of a forum post but since it's locked up and this kind content doesn't fit here and will be lost tomorrow, I can only recommend to write an article somewhere else, with a few more details. You can send me this also as private message and I post it for you in the right places. Your offer seems great and is right on. It's true that folks here in PP need good contacts to existing supply chains and thus also have a way to integrate potential products in circulation. As far for cutting sheets or the new sheetpress, this is a new adventure yet to be completed over the next years. For now I can only estimate the number of sheetpresses in the PP eco system, it might be around 100 worldwide by the end of the year (I hope). Thanks again, please keep shooting; we're hungry

(edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vliWvfpOMUo

Already Dead Tapes & Records

Iain Shaw + David Shrigley "Listening to Slayer"

lovely - already dead tapes

I think that's a bit dark, even for me.

Part of me is really curious to find out if I'm immune. I mean, you roll the dice... And there are basically three outcomes. The 90 000+ (or whatever it is) people who have already recovered are now like superheroes. They must be humming "You Can't Touch This" (Hammer Time) to themselves, all day. (edited)

1:32 AM

Speaking of time-capsules and extinction...

Not an important thing, but I am noticing that this discord channel is not so active from 0am to 4 am UTC. It is 0:24 pm right now in Tokyo, Japan, and people only chat around 4pm to midnight in our time zone. I guess people who live in Asia have a different characteristics than people who live in Europe maybe? Interesting to be the only one chatting

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@Lazy_Turtle Same thing here in Guatemala, Central America. I've been conected all day but the channel is not so active

I know right?

it's true tho lol

true

7:54 AM

I guess I am the night duty officer working at daytime

7:56 AM

It is almost 6 am in Europe, my job's done:D

@Lazy_Turtle , high five, good job also with mentioning the PP crowd-funding system, this came up a few times also in regard to set out bounties. Looks like we´re getting closer to some specs for the PP CMS

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Hi there, is anybody in the Eindhoven area (NL) interested in leftover acrylic material in all kinds of colours? Basically these are leftovers from laser cutting small items - small loose bits and different size plate material with multiple parts cut out...

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-mutated-bacterial-enzyme-breaks-down-plastic-waste-in-a-matter-of-hours

Mutant Bacterial Enzyme Can Break Down Plastic Waste in Just Hours

Researchers working for industrial development company Carbios have created a mutant bacterial enzyme that can break down plastic bottles for recycling in only a couple of hours, according to The Guardian.

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11:18 AM

10 hours to breakdown PET.

I can't hold my idea that just came up in my mind, so I am sharing this. Idea: Injection and Extrusion hybrid machine. Basically, An injection machine with a motor or an extrusion machine with a handle. Did anyone already have this idea? Is it possible?

Just my interests

Injextruder.ai

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@Deleted User : Hi, this is more of a forum post but since it's locked up and this kind content doesn't fit here and will be lost tomorrow, I can only recommend to write an article somewhere else, with a few more details. You can send me this also as private message and I post it for you in the right places. Your offer seems great and is right on. It's true that folks here in PP need good contacts to existing supply chains and thus also have a way to integrate potential products in circulation. As far for cutting sheets or the new sheetpress, this is a new adventure yet to be completed over the next years. For now I can only estimate the number of sheetpresses in the PP eco system, it might be around 100 worldwide by the end of the year (I hope). Thanks again, please keep shooting; we're hungry

@Deleted User Thanks PP - Catalonia, i dropeed you a DM! Have a great easter everyone

@lechatblanc I can only deal with one mutant micro-organism at a time. The spot is taken.

But it's cool that nature will figure out a way to clean up our mess when humans are gone.

I know, right!

346 000+ recoveries apparently. The thing to put at the top of your CV for the next year and half.

I translated the video to Japanese. can I publish it?

I hope more Japanese people will join us. It's lonely:(

probably a little tough at the moment what with everything going on

I guess you are right

5:30 AM

Not a priority now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XhzBSMBpuY

Ecosia

Why Coronavirus won’t save the environment | COVID-19 and climate

6:35 AM

I've been using Ecosia for almost a year, and it is amazing. Highly recommended to try it out.

It's been a long time since protest marches and grassroots campaigning have actually solved anything major. That's because idealists don't fully understand the nature of the political systems they aim to change. And they also fundamentally misunderstand Capitalism. Fundamentally, people have not rallied around C19 for the "common good." They have done it for personal survival and the survival of their families. Which is the same reason that the poorest people generally ignore environmental issues, in their "economic calculus." As for governments and corporations: They don't give a damn about people dying. In fact, the economy largely depends on people dying. What they can't handle, is many people dying simultaneously. That's what the economy can't handle. But they will probably use the aftermath of C19 to justify greater automation and even more job losses. And the US and its "political bitches" (like Australia) are clearly pushing propaganda towards gearing up for war with China. What happened after the 1918 flu pandemic? World War 2. It did NOT bring the World together. And if humans are fundamentally smarter now, than they were back then, I still need to see the evidence for that.

yeah, actually the trend is that people become more stupid a long term study revealed - on the other hand yes, more folks on the planet are able to understand Einstein or we have more makers thanks to new techs. However, that's not a surprise seeing folks addicted to their 'must be easy' apps hours long each day

Sounds right on plan.

I purposely prefer to the "1918 flu" and not the "Spanish Flu," because that name was part of the propaganda games. Just like Orange Hitler's "Chinese Virus." His Racist supporters are loving that.

I hope world leaders are smarter than 19 century... This time it should bring the world together,

there are no world leaders, there are only good and bad banks, there´s a little hope actually from what i heard from stock trade insiders (edited)

5:35 PM

here´s good entry material : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrHeg77LF4Y

ZeitgeistMovie

Zeitgeist: The Movie - by Peter Joseph

I've never heard of a good bank before...

right, let´s say forces with feets in the financial world who don´t agree it´s going down that bad ...

I don't feel it going down. Initially, my investments took a dive but now they're back up and then some. Glad i bought some additional when it was low.

Good education should make good people and good people will choose good leaders

@Lazy_Turtle True, but its kind of a never ending cycle though... how do we educate when the "bad" leaders keep information from us?

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also that is perfectly explained in zeitgeist (some parts are odd but still, ABSOLUTE MUST know/watch doc)

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But bad leaders don't invest on education

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5:39 PM

so there is no good people

5:39 PM

not a lot I should say

@Lazy_Turtle : exactly, there is lot of details in Zeitgeist about

The main problems of inequality are caused by fractional reserve banking, which looks like it might collapse as central banks print to print their way out of covid. Get into bitcoin before the 'halving' - it's the hardest currency available

It is 12:41 pm in Tokyo, Japan. I should go to bed

5:42 PM

I will watch Zeitgeist tommorow

5:42 PM

no, today

5:42 PM

but after sleeping

good nite, nice shift , thanks ! yeah, it´s extreme dense

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@Lazy_Turtle watch also the addendum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5ayg3hbhoM

taeonu

Zeitgeist Addendum - Money Creation and Fractional Reserve Banking

@Timberstar , let him sleep, after part one he might be a little off for while

yea i have problems sleeping from it still

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT2C-5RA9cA

Keiser Report

Keiser Report 1524

The US economy has been largely based on war-profiteering since WW2. That's the main reason they can't get enough of it. The arms manufacturers are probably salivating at the thought of all the "opportunities" that lie ahead for them. Death and infection rates are still low in sub-Saharan Africa. It's not clear if that's because of low testing rates (very probable) or because the population is more resistant (possibly because of receiving different vaccinations as children.) Either way, we'll see what happens. The Eastern and Western World are welcome to destroy each other. Africa will sit back and chill (hopefully). And then civilization can continue in the place where it began.

(Yes, deluded wishful thinking.)

well, we deserve it apparently, regardless the few trying to break out

I've got a lot more to say, but it's tricky in public forums. There's a lot of reality that, especially in my experience of living in a highly suppressed, highly uneducated, and highly conservative country, people just don't want to hear. They're not psychologically ready. But one psychological shift that might happen soon, at least for a while, is that people might start to just appreciate being alive. Perhaps dampening the life style obsessions that fuel the wasteful and unconscious consumerism that keeps the whole machine turning. (edited)

9:25 PM

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can´t agree more, took me ions to understand ´love is the solution´ ; as for touching the bare metal of it in public forums, here´s a good summery on how to deal with it : https://thebias.com/2017/09/26/how-good-intent-undermines-diversity-and-inclusion/ - (read https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15040525 before though).

@Frederik C (ZA) I agree. This change has already been happening for a while. Everyone loves to pick on the millennial generation, but a big part of the shift is they don't have the same means as previous generations. In turn they are much less focused on money (because they have less means of having a lot of it) and more focused on quality of life. Who cares if I make 100k a year if it all goes to paying debt and basic essentials?

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was wondering the other day to have an app to crowdfund politicians who defend the public´s ideas of life, I should have do it just instead of working 200% on a 50% income. true btw, even with a better income (above 15k) I lost pretty fast interest in having it, there were just no good enough items to feel attracted long enough, kinda boring quite quickly indeed. instead I threw it at PP just, now look what ...

People will need to unlearn a lot of BS, before they are ready to learn again. Especially the "smart" people with the degrees.

You can't have productive conversations with people who can't see the self-contradiction in their own arguments.

George Orwell was right about that concerning "double-think." A population that contradict themselves without question, is absolutely fundamental for the survival of the Elites.

I trust in chaos, nothing which holds me back getting something done in the mean-time

The interconnectedness of the fundamental concepts involved ultimately does cross over into metaphysical / religious realms. That's what makes it tricky. It all goes well, until I "step on the wrong toe" by presenting a new fact, just as true as the previous ones, but too uncomfortable. Some months ago on another server, mostly dominated by Americans (with a very high opinion of their own intellectual abilities), I told them that smart Americans should be spending all their money on survival bunkers. They turned on me like a pack of wolves for my "negativity." One called me a fool and blocked me. Well... here we are.

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@Frederik C (ZA) metaphysical interconnectedness beyond religion https://www.crystalinks.com/metatcubebwlogo.gif

12:52 AM

geometry is the only undeniable truth

My mind is blown.

highly recommend this series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DzBTRVrA0o

Spirit Science

Spirit Science 1 ~ Thoughts (2019 Deluxe Remake!)

12:55 AM

particularly lesson 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHuvW7YaGjQ

Spirit Science

Spirit Science 6 ~ The Flower of Life

Idk why but part one and part two is not allowed in Japan to watch. I already watched the other ones because Dave saved the playlist. Now I am 50% done with Zeitgeist. It is interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XhzBSMBpuY

@Lazy_Turtle I translated this video and some others from Ecosia and PP. I hope to see more Japanese people working with us

Ecosia

Why Coronavirus won’t save the environment | COVID-19 and climate

11:34 AM

Translating keeps my English skill as well as my Japanese skill. I asked in #deleted-channel for reviews but no replies...

I should ask my friend I guess

Were there any map pins in Japan, on the old map? Maybe try them, if there are.

I think there was one in Kagoshima

12:27 PM

I saw a youtube of that workspace.

Yeah this is the only one. https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/dynamic-lab but it might be one of the biggest workspace.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OS9uhASKyjA

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

@Lazy_Turtle Find someone in Kamikatsu

Great Big Story

Japan’s Town With No Waste

@Frederik C (ZA) Thanks

12:50 PM

It is a good thing that everything stays local, but it would be better if they join discord or connect with us somehow. I think I am the only Japanese member who is active here:D

Asked my friend

4:22 PM

@Lazy_Turtle I translated this video and some others from Ecosia and PP. I hope to see more Japanese people working with us

to review my translation

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Currently working on story hopper about straws

hi everyone! from a techincal stand point, if I was using a material (for example polypropylene) with melt flow index of 6 for injection molding, can I use polypropylene with melt flow 15 or 30 as an alternative? it just allows for more use of available recycled material

5:04 PM

i mean, what would happen if i go higher

hello everyone, I want to start recycling at home and wanted to know if there is a way to get the machines

Thank you in advance for your response and your help

@Yasmine you can build them yourself, or check out the bazaar to find machine builders selling them

Thank you @Timberstar for your response but how do I build them myself? Is there any specific guideline to do so? I unfortunately don't have the technicalities (but can still try

). If not where is the bazaar? How/Where do I contact machine builders? Thank you once again

https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/bazar.html

Precious Plastic Marketplace

The Precious Plastic Bazar is where you can buy and sell parts, machines, services and recycled products.

6:06 PM

https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/overview.html (edited)

Precious Plastic Recycling Machines

Discover the different Precious Plastic machines that help people recycle plastic around the world.

6:08 PM

It's a good idea to find people in your local area to help you build if you feel you might not have the technical skills, the machines are not too difficult for someone who knows how to work with metal

6:09 PM

you can try with the map https://community.preciousplastic.com/map/

Spyker Workshop - Injection Molding Delrin! RobotDigg

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Thank you very much for your help @Timberstar unfortunately, there isn't a community yet in my country!

< also you can try the country specific channels here

Hi there..I am dev from India...

7:07 PM

I am a mechanical engineer, I am in to the plastics

7:13 PM

I am in to moulding machines

@Timberstar hi there

8:16 PM

I am a mechanical engineer, I am in to the plastics

8:16 PM

@Timberstar I am a mechanical engineer, I am in to the plastics

8:18 PM

@Yasmine hi there, I am dev,I am a mechanical, in to the plastics

@davehakkens hi there, I am dev, I am a mechanical engineer and I am in to plastic...

@dev_300710 : Is there something you'd like to do ? Something we can help you with ? Tell us a little about your situation and plans, welcome on board !

@Deleted User hi

8:41 PM

@Deleted User i have 12 years of experience in manufacturing of plastic injection moulding machines

8:42 PM

I am looking for a right opertunity to explore my experience and knowledge...

8:45 PM

@Deleted UserI am looking for a right opertunity to explore my experience and knowledge...

well, we could really need a hand

Right now I don't know where to start but let me send you a few links via private message.

8:46 PM

Do you have some pictures or similar to share with us ? Always interesting to see other's work.

@Deleted User ok no worries

8:48 PM

@Deleted User may I know where are you from sir?

From Catalonia, former hostage and enslaved colony of Spain

@Deleted User ohhh ...ok

yeah, no worry, we're all slaves of some #$%#$%

U have any WhatsApp number sir @Deleted User

not really, I am extremely silly with phones

FB account @Deleted User

8:57 PM

So that it will be easy to chat with you sir @Deleted User

ok, let's move via PM,

turn's out that @dev_300710 is doing bad ass machines as I figured via PM - trying to get a blue print for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGXG8_0tVCY&feature=emb_title from him

Spyker Workshop

@dev_300710 You make those?

@Timberstar which one ?

the injector in the video

9:21 PM

This is my @Timberstar

9:21 PM

This is my machine @Timberstar

9:21 PM

@Timberstar this is my machine

Oh man! Guess you're the new top dog around here lol!

9:22 PM

Ohhh ...thank you ...thank you

9:22 PM

@TimberstarOhhh ...thank you ...thank you

That's a serious industrial machine, much bigger than the PP designs. Your knowledge and expertees will make a real difference here

@Timberstar clamping force 80 tons

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the video above is not his machine ! i posted it for reference only, https://www.robotdigg.com/product/657/Digg-Desktop-Injection-Molding-Machine - that's a thing we need as open - source guys! very possible we can fork v4 for something like that

yea I recognized it, but @dev_300710 's machine is similar, you're right

9:27 PM

@dev_300710 maybe yours is bigger actually

9:27 PM

very exciting (edited)

problem with those machines - is always dirty waste plastic, .... happy to go from small, 3-5t or so

@Timberstar 30 ,80 , 100, 110,150 tons we have.

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@Timberstar

9:32 PM

This is my clamping unit @Timberstar

@dev_300710 wow. What a beast!

9:35 PM

@sharma.sagar94 is a regular poster here from India (ok I know it's quite a big place...)

@Timberstar , yeah, would love to see and hear more from @sharma.sagar94 - a pity - he was one of the best forum hero - also defending open source in all its facets

(edited)

he was around yesterday...

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Finished translating story hopper about straws. Best way to keep up English.

5:17 AM

...and Japanese

@Lazy_Turtle hi there

Hello

5:36 AM

Nice to meet you

5:36 AM

Currently working on Do(n't) delete your facebook. Stupid. storyhopper

5:37 AM

Fun thing to do

Can somebody review the CC I made for "Do(n't) delete your facebook. Stupid." story hopper please?

@Lazy_Turtle so what is your experience sir ?

7:04 AM

@Lazy_Turtle where are you from?

I'm from Japan

7:05 AM

I've been with this community from January

Ohh ...great

Please don't call me sir sir? I am 13 years old

7:07 AM

Probably the youngest here

@Lazy_Turtle ok ..no worries

My workspace is in my school. School closed, Workspace closed. so automatic.

7:10 AM

So I've been translating videos and helping others

First step to get more people recycling in Japan

1:20 PM

1:21 PM

Working on "the fuel of electric cars"

@Lazy_Turtle : amazing !!! thanks soo much !

1:34 PM

I think the build videos for the machines might be more interesting to have translated.

Yeah I only did the shredder

1:34 PM

I should work on injection next.

1:35 PM

Thanks

@Lazy_Turtle 13! wow i had no idea

now you know

scary smart!

that's why, the new member of the month

️

Hi guys nice to meet you! I saw the site on the web and I was curious about the things we could do with plastic. Can someone tell me how can I start from no invest situation and grow with the process?

@xXPhantom93Xx Hi! It's quite possible to get started with some basic kitchen equipment like a sandwich press. I would recommend trying some experiments with bottle tops in a sandwich press - use greaseproof paper so it doesn't stick - then you can get a feel for what plastic is like when melted and what you can do. A normal oven can be used too. Make sure you read up about the dangers of fumes etc. and stay safe.

3:35 PM

@xXPhantom93Xx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQPnlnRaWyI HDPE is the easiest and safest to work with, most bottle tops are HDPE- look for the number 2 recycling symbol (edited)

Atomic Shrimp

Forming Useful Pieces Of Recycled HDPE

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Thanks man I'll check this. I use 3D printers and I'm an industrial designer so I know different types of plastic materials.

great, there is a lot of interest in how to integrate 3d printing into the process of mouldmaking

3:44 PM

moulds are the bottleneck in the process, usually expensive/difficult to make

I saw the video and he uses the shred. I saw the machine to produce shred, there is a way to craft it in other ways? And which kind of plastic i can use to produce them?

some people have had success using a garden chipper, a paper shredder (must be the type that can shred bank cards) or even a wood planer

3:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1iHWOwTbUQ

vuaeco

Precious Plastic S01E01: Shred plastics with a paper shredder

Thanks!!

4:26 PM

In your opinion, it is useful to divide each kind of material shred to be melted in the press or you can mix them? Another thing. For commercial use of this type or recycle what would you suggest?

@xXPhantom93Xx Yes, keep your different types of plastics separate, they behave quite differently. Even some different types of the same plastic will behave differently, eg. HDPE from bottle tops is more liquid when melted compared to HDPE from milk bottles, because the tops are injected while the milk bottles are blow-moulded, they have additives to make those processes easier

4:29 PM

Im not sure I understand the second question

@xXPhantom93Xx Yes, keep your different types of plastics separate, they behave quite differently. Even some different types of the same plastic will behave differently, eg. HDPE from bottle tops is more liquid when melted compared to HDPE from milk bottles, because the tops are injected while the milk bottles are blow-moulded, they have additives to make those processes easier

@Timberstar Yes it makes sense

4:33 PM

If someone would like to create a small business to grow up what can be useful to do at the beginning?

Find the right people to work with; write a careful business plan and make sure your product has a market.

I see..

I've been 3D printing a discontinued muffler housing for about a year now, and just in the last couple months i've been building the injection machine. I have to get the mould perfected... but this could make some serious cheddar for my family. I sell the parts for $8.50 USD/each.

4:37 PM

Injecting them will bring the cost to less than a dime.

@Anthonyvanvolkinburg nice, what kind of muffler?

its for air compressors

4:39 PM

it just holds a little filter

reproducing discontinued products and parts is a great idea, it should be less difficult to identify a market and also you can skip all the product development stage

Yeah, It's been a blessing for sure. You just gotta find the right product. The good part for me, is i just sell them to a supplier. Maybe that would be a good place to start product development? Just ask around to suppliers?

That's right, you make money by solving other people's problems, not by making pretty objects and hoping people will like them. So the key is finding the right problem to solve.

4:48 PM

... and solving it cheaper and better than the next guy

That's exactly why i got into precious plastics. The injection machine. I had to start making them cheaper incase they wanted to invest in a different company. Instead of outsourcing it to someone else, i'm going to get ahead of it and be that someone else... That way, if the price gets too high for them, it won't hurt as bad to lower it a few dollars.

Tesla fans or folks interested in how the system was rigged from the beginning, here a great movie (now you have an explanation for your monthly energy bill) : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2140507/ (torrent is out), have a nice one

The Current War: Director's Cut (2017) - IMDb

Directed by Alfonso Gomez-Rejon. With Benedict Cumberbatch, Oliver Powell, Katherine Waterston, Nancy Crane. The dramatic story of the cutthroat race between electricity titans Thomas Edison and George Westinghouse to determine whose electrical system would power the modern w...

Dawid Bowie played the fictionalized version of Tesla in Christopher Nolan's masterpiece, The Prestige. I see in this one, it's the guy who played The Beast in the X-men reboot.

hey we were looking to make some face shields we were wondering where you guys get the clear sheets for your face shields do you make them urself or outsource?

I actually have a paper shredder I tried to use for plastic shredding. Is there any information on how to "hack" it so that it can make even finer plastic shreddings?

@Uplifted : i guess you went already through 'alternatives' section : https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/machines/shredder/ ?

9:21 PM

there is a good hack on instructables mentioned for the paper shredder; you might want to go from at least 16 sheet shredders, they're in the 200-300 $ range on amazon

Hmmmm I haven't. Having a look.

9:22 PM

I'll keep that in mind. Thank you @Deleted User.

9:23 PM

The one I found was in a bin. I prefer finding a bunch of them out of the bin to divert them from the landfills.

great, keep us posted - the paper shredder way pops up frequent.

@Uplifted In my experience, paper shredders can just about do what they were designed to do and no more. If it's designed to shred bank cards it will shred thin plastic, but it's a struggle for the machine. I tried re-shredding a second time but even a slight difference in thickness from one side to the other will jam it. Not really useful for production in my opinion but ok for for small experiments.

actually, it could work, with less blades, metal gears and a little stronger motor

- possibly the shaft needs also a revision more

- at the end that are still hardened metal blades in there

9:57 PM

timing belts might do too but year - there's not much left than the blades after the 'hack'

(edited)

Kia Ora peeps, just joined so will have a read thru before commenting, but what a great idea this is, can't wait to become involved...anyone from NSW here by any chance?

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Welcome @zebby I am from nsw, Think there are some people from Sydney in #🥝oceania

Ty @Deleted User I'm Lake Mac/ Central Coast, with LD our h/hold red & yellow bins are out of control. So googled and found this site, it's an awesome idea and I'd like to help out. I'm starting a coffee business so will have a few 2 litre bottles to deal with...do u know if there are shredders for home use here or are they all industrial? (edited)

If NSW stands for Not Safe World, then I could maybe help. Otherwise, no.

new south wales, australian state @Frederik C (ZA)

3:04 AM

close though!

3:05 AM

Any shredder is for home use if you squint and look at it the right way @zebby! (plus have the space and power for it). I'm just north of you in Newcastle, howdy neighbour.

@Deleted User woah!!! Howdy neighbour to you too!! Great to meet u!!! Have u been in the community long?

Not super long no. I plan on building a shredder at some point, just waiting for some life stuff to get out of the way. Plus the 'rona stuff now too I spose

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Yes I'm hearing you...I'm looking at the kiwi page, being one I thought it only right lol...nice posts from @Kiwi and his shredder!

close though! Yes, it can't be safe. Just look what the virus down there did to this duck:

it made the duck even more awesome

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"Hey... Where's Perry?"

Something is wrong

3:38 AM

Yeah. SOMETHING IS WRONG.

What platform / website / software is it?

It is youtube

3:40 AM

.com

3:41 AM

Someone needs to create English subtitles before I create Japanese

3:41 AM

I can't create without it

3:43 AM

I can't work on Japanese subtitles @Deleted User I am working on story hoppers instead

I've never played with subtitling on youtube

3:44 AM

looks interesting

It is not that hard to get started

3:44 AM

You naturally will learn how to create subtitles

What about auto-generating the English? The AI does speech-to-text.

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it's usually pretty terrible though

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It is improving, but not enough

3:47 AM

not quite enough

Well, something to start with, maybe. Otherwise how? We crowd-source it? A group of volunteers each transcribe a few minutes?

The thing is that I am the only Japanese active here

3:49 AM

So I am doing it

An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: 5Zc4d3quYyBNpC0b)

3:50 AM

ugh, I'll look at it in a bit

3:50 AM

gotta get out to the workshop and cut some timber now

Alright what happened?

no idea, opening the subtitle thing on the injection video just gives playback errors

Or download the audio as MP3 and run it through a decent speech-to-text program. I don't know any freeware. PP Catalonia might know.

3:52 AM

Yes, that only gives us the English text.

no idea, opening the subtitle thing on the injection video just gives playback errors

@Deleted User I guess try again?

3:53 AM

おられるようあlれあdyどね

3:53 AM

oops

yeah I will later this afternoon, time to don the PPE and do some outside work

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おられるようあlれあdyどね

@Lazy_Turtle This is what happens when I don't realise my keyboard is on Japanese mode

3:54 AM

(ツ)

So you have Japanese mode just for that

I can only copy and paste characters that my Android displays correctly. The ones commonly used in the West to make emojis.

ツ

4:00 AM

easy for me

Yes, I can't actually type them.

ツ

This is for you

4:05 AM

No need to search for it, it is here

ლ ( ^͡ ʖ͜ ^͡) ლ

Just finished translating "how to make filament from extrusion machine" Time for breakfast

I've noticed a difference in Discord's character spacing compared to standard text editors, as well. Some need to be tweaked to look right.

ヘ＿＿／￣￣￣＼＼ﾉ　 (･)　ヽ_＿) 　＼_ノ　　　丿　　(ﾉー、　 | 　　　ノ　　ヽ　　　/　　｜ | 　　｜　　(_ノ　　　＼　　/ 　　　　)　/ 　　　 (＿ﾉ

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Yeah, for me it's middle of the night. I should be sleeping. But the lockdown isn't helping my body-clock. And you complained that's lonely on the server in your time zone.

That is right

4:25 AM

I've noticed a difference in Discord's character spacing compared to standard text editors, as well. Some need to be tweaked to look right.

@Frederik C (ZA) No, Japanese has different spacing than English. It is not Discord's problem

4:26 AM

For　example

4:26 AM

⬆️

I'm seeing this:

4:33 AM

What I actually mean is that once I've placed the non-Latin characters correctly in a "Notepad" program, and paste them in Discord, they tend to shift one character space left or right. Then you sometimes loose the "picture" effect.

Oh I think I get it now

4:38 AM

So discord chooses

You know what?

5:00 AM

I am going to build Precious Plastic Japan Home page for japanese people

5:01 AM

With every video and instructions to start an workspace. In japanese, ofcourse.

Hi just new

@Trad Radio Ireland Welcome!

@Lazy_Turtle English (UK) subs submitted to that video (https://youtu.be/qtZv96ciFIU), I'm not sure what happens now or how long it takes for them to show up

12:52 PM

@Lauren Steller for some reason I cannot reply to you in #deleted-channel but have you started by reading the plastic safety page? https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety

@Deleted User Thanks! I think it needs to be reviewed by few people... I will be the first one

12:56 PM

I think you should credit your contribution. Did you check that little box before submitting?

no don't think so

12:56 PM

I was just so glad to be done

You can still go back and do that

12:57 PM

click edit and check the box

Hi ! I'm a new French member, i hope so to develop this beautiful project with both activities !

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ahoy new member

@Deleted User nothing to correct or fix! It was perfect!

woohoo, go me

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I've done some cc work on some of the easy ones

1:08 PM

If you have time, I can send you the link?

ya sure

How about

1:09 PM

...

1:09 PM

The dark side of data?

1:10 PM

Skip the straws?

start with data I spose

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(Don't) Delete your Facebook. Stupid?

1:10 PM

ok

1:14 PM

I will work on translating "Build the injection" while you review mine

1:14 PM

Oh no

1:15 PM

Your CC needs more reviews

you guys rock !

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I can download the sbv file for you to work on while it gets approved @Lazy_Turtle ?

@Deleted User I think I can do that. I will try downloading

2:00 PM

Did you review the dark side of data? It is in English not UK English

yah

Did you notice the...

2:08 PM

and

2:08 PM

?

2:09 PM

The dark music and happy music?

oh yeah

2:12 PM

I didn't put any of that stuff in, wasn't sure of the way to format it

2:13 PM

just with ( )s to denote sounds or actions yeah "?

I don't think you get it

2:14 PM

When there was a happy music, the cc was:

2:14 PM

(HAPPY MUSIC: )

2:14 PM

And when there was a dark music, the cc was:

2:15 PM

(DARK MUSIC):

2:15 PM

Review it @Deleted User ,

2:15 PM

you will see

ohhhh

2:17 PM

man, I totally missed that

haha

2:18 PM

fun thing to do

2:19 PM

Maybe I should add it on both sides like...

2:20 PM

: (DARK MUSIC) :

I'll leave ya to it. Time for me to snooze

ok

2:39 PM

I feel like you're creating an instruction manual for the human-sized, mutant cockroaches to watch one day in the distant future, as they try to work out what happened to ancient advanced apes that once ruled the planet.

Personally, I'm torn between wasting time writing my "manifesto" or doing something that might increase the community survival rate. Decisions, decisions.

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I've settled on doing laundry. If the stink is too bad, the neighbours might call the cops even before I'm dead. (I'm buying some time.)

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Hi all,we are ilVespaio and we are network of free-lance designers with a focus on ecodesign and sustainability, based in Milan. We have built a shredder and an injection machine. Moreover, we designed and produced two moulds to creat recycled HDPE turtles and polar bears for children. We are going to start many educational projects about recycled plastic with Precious Plastic machines. We would love to get in touch with other people and to be active members of the community. See you!

6:04 PM

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Nice. The mutant cockroaches can make little plastic humans for their hatchlings. "Prehistoric Pals." And then they will step on tiny humans in the dark hallway, headed to the kitchen in the middle of the night. Oh, the irony!

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There's a 1997 Guillermo Del Toro horror movie called Mimic in which a species of giant cockroaches evolves in abandoned New York subway tunnels, and start hunting humans. It wasn't terrible, as I recall. But I'm not necessarily recommending it. I'm just pointing out that it's an actual thing. And it might have influenced me more than I realized.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0119675/ (edited)

Mimic (1997) - IMDb

Directed by Guillermo del Toro. With Mira Sorvino, Jeremy Northam, Alexander Goodwin, Giancarlo Giannini. Three years ago, entomologist Dr. Susan Tyler genetically created an insect to kill cockroaches carrying a virulent disease. Now, the insects are out to destroy their onl...

@Frederik C (ZA) please send me your address, I gonna send some friends :-))))

7:55 PM

the hug commando

"Hugs?"

yeah, seem like we need more huggers these days; gonna watch today 'Naked Lunch' (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102511/), you just made honey on cockroaches today

It's fine, I'm entering my third week of total lockdown, with two to go. A bit of "cabin fever" is inevitable. I've seen YouTube tutorials on how to make crossbows for survival situations. Just saying. Just "putting it out there." Also, if your friends have a boat, and can make it into False Bay at night, I'm at the beach... I can make a run for it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Basically, I just need to find some chocolate to re-establish some hope for civilization. But, even before lockdown, for last few years, I went to a corner shop where I was often the only customer. It's been closed. Now I have to face the damn crowds, man. Not cool.

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Took about 2 hours to translate "How to build injection" video. Thanks for your cc work @Deleted User

Hello, my name is Carlos and I am totally new to Precious Plastics, I just discover a few days ago the web page and I got very interested. I still have to learn a lot from the academy, but I wanted to say hello and find out more about the online community.

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@Caleiton For now, go to #🖐start-here and give yourself a role! I guess you are a member.

Thank you Ryoma, I just did... yes so far I am a member only.

We will help you get started!

I want to learn a lot about this wonderful project, and also to teach my daughters about it, and start a project together in family

@Caleiton Where do you live? There are channels based on it

I live is Costa Rica... and ohh I realize i didn´t scrolled down to the bottom... I just found my country there

Now you can get some help locally, not internationally:D I hope #deleted-channel channel is active:)

7:26 AM

...and speak spanish

Yes, thank you very much. Even though I hope to be talking frequently on these sections as well. Looks like my country channel is not very active yet. Maybe we need more people to become involved.

Alright, I guess I have nothing to tell you now. Good luck!

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I finished cc work for "the fuel of lithium cars", one of my favorite story hopper, now people can translate... please review if you have time guys! You contribute to the project while enjoying the video! @Deleted User

relaxing on the couch tonight @Lazy_Turtle but I will look tomorrow

Breaks are crucial

Is there some particular reason I can't talk in #deleted-channel?

I get it

1:38 PM

"Members" can't talk in #deleted-channel ... I think you have the right to do that... Do you want me to ask for it in #deleted-channel to open #deleted-channel to members?

1:38 PM

It's weird

@Deleted User : re-join the server in such cases; there are weird bots/plugins

1:44 PM

huh, removing the member role fixed it

1:44 PM

silly discord

@Deleted User : removing the member role fixed it Just elaborate on that. Does it help to to change your role and and then change back? I'm also blocked, now. That's a recent change. Looks like a permissions setting mistake.

@Frederik C (ZA) that should explain a few stuff

3:18 PM

...going on

Okay... In the meantime, you need to remove your role, or have a role other than "Member" to post there. So, something changed in the permissions. You don't need to leave the server. Too much hassle to find the invite link again. Just remove your role for a minute. Also: If you change roles too often YAGbot will scold you.

Don't worry about that.

Hello lads, I'm new on this discord channel. My name is Ahmad from Indonesia. So I have this business idea that encourages recycling and tackle the waste problem in 3D printing industry: I'm planning to create an eCommerce platform for 3D printing materials that also collects & recycle 3D print waste and give users a 'cashback' for every recycle they made. Does anyone is a 3D printer user here?

@Filagain You'll probably get an "underground Fight Club" invite from somebody.

"The first rule of Project Mayhem is: You do not ask questions."

@Frederik C (ZA) somebody said the F** (filament) word, invitation done

9:10 PM

seriously, here at PlasticHub we indeed say it that way, 'somebody said the F word', happens at least twice the week, still

(edited)

Aight lol @Deleted User invited me but I don't understand what this is (edited)

@Filagain , this is the Discord server for the 3D print task force of PP

@Deleted User I see, alriight then thanks for the invite

. I'll introduce myself & share my idea there tomorrow since its pretty late here. GN lads

nice , see you around

The first rule of filament club is: You do not talk about filament club.

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Peeps, if you don't understand 80s and 90s movie references, then just assume I'm making one.

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Robotdigg is a member of F club https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfdCu9vDTgU

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Update from building Precious Plastic Japan website... it is 25% done

Hello @Luis_OE I am here to help

6:09 AM

Step #1: Go to #🖐start-here and give yourself a role

6:11 AM

Step #2: If you have questions about building, go to #archived-machines , people can help you there

6:12 AM

If not, I can help here

let me try as you recomend

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You are a member now

look at me, I am the member now

Wait... are you?

Hello recyclers, I have made a Precious Plastic Japan community website to encourage to start and influence Precious Plastic. Not much information is in it though, just Mission, Guide for recycling and few other stuff. It's in Japanese, but I just wanted to celebrate PreciousPlastic

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http://preciousplasticjapan.simplesite.com/445721466

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hi everyone, i'm new here! I'm Julia from germany! Would really like to get something started but not quite sure how. i definitely can not build one of these machines by myself haha.

You guys are doing a great job at Precious Plastic! Im really taken by the idea of setting up a workshop. Im just doing some research and gathering ideas. I have one request that I think would be very beneficial to the community.

3:49 PM

I would like to ask precious plastic if you guys can make a set of bricks, tiles, supports and other construction materials so that they can be replicated by the community. I think bricks and tiles is the best way to transfer junk plastic into a good product, and keeping out of the garbage cycle. This would make any start up looking to produce building materials get a head start. I am currently thinking to build a workshop from bricks and tiles using recycled plastic. If the outcome can look really good and structurally solid and secure, then this could possibly be a great example to anyone wishing to build a home applying similar methods. A great way of marketing a product also! Can we please get a few open source designs for bricks, tiles and supports that have undergone necessary testing before they can go on the market. If we can show how a small start up (such as making bricks and tiles can be profitable) it can be replicated by locals in places where they really need to deal with their plastic, and benefit from the advantages of cheaper building materials and employment etc.

3:49 PM

Is there a better place on discord where I can post this?

Hello! I am new here and I'm not sure about how this channel work but I'm going to give this a try. I'm a student working on a recycling startup and the purpose of this is to recycle the plastic of some kid's markers. So what I really want to know is, of what type of plastic is made a marker?

@Deleted User I don't think bricks & tiles made of plastic waste is "cheap" tho, at least for now

FYI. Everyone should be able to send a message in Feedback>if they have a role assigned. (trying to avoid newcomers to use the channel to throw in their questions without looking around) Since the purpose of the #deleted-channel channel is to give feedback. Not to get feedback

Oh! Thanks for clarifying.

Hi, I am in Seattle US. I am new to plastic. I have questions regarding Extruder Pro. I can see that this extruder can create much wider bar than its nozzle. What is the nozzle size? What is the maximum thin and wide bar it can extrude? How create back pressure in the mold so that the plastic fills the whole section- not familiar with plunger with a high temperature silicone seal method? (edited)

Reference reading would be appricated.

So I love what this group is doing but i have one little issue. I feel like for the most part that the majority of people/groups are not actually reducing plastic usage and are not actually reusing it. I know that is strong words but hear me out. the majority of groups are spending time, money and resources to make all these machines to grind up plastic and make things with it. but what are we making? are we making something useful? sometimes.... are we making amazing things that change the world? sometimes. Are we making trinkets and novelty items? Yes! But is spending all that time and money and resources worth what we are making? I would love to see more effort going towards working on cleaning up plastic and then turning it into a resource that is then used by a company that makes consumer products on a larger scale. or see more efforts put towards ways to not use plastic in the first place. I just feel like most are just making trinkets and not really addressing the issue at hand. If i have a wrong idea please show me and change my mind.

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@Beginner's Tech You make an important point, but this movement is still young and still experimenting. One of the objectives of approaching plastic production at a small scale enterprise level is to reduce the need for bulk transportation of raw materials, allowing products to be made close to the source of waste and close to the consumer without relying on a centralized bulk manufacturing chain. A lot of products may seem like trinkets, but at this early stage they are important as signifiers and tools for raising awareness and for demonstrating the possibilities. Of course the longer term objectives are to produce useful practical items which begins to replace mass produced virgin plastic products.

10:01 PM

However, if you prefer the centralized infrastructure approach, Norway has set the bar high with 97% of plastic bottles recycled using their bottle deposit system.. There have been a few people pondering the idea of a PPcoin cryptocurrency, I think such a scheme would be the key to a reward-based centralized collection and processing system.

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@Timberstar Yeah I understand that it needs to start somewhere I am just thinking it might be a great idea for us to start reaching out to already existing manufactures in local towns and groups and show them the idea and work with them. also start working with towns and cities to try to get better collection services and try to educate people on how to cut back on waste. i Just dont see a lot of that happening. again maybe i am just not looking in the correct direction. I know for myself i cant afford the equipment to recycle plastic and even if i could i dont want to make so called trinkets. i would love to find ideas to work one on one with local companies that might be able to fund and support the idea and then benefit from it in some way

@Deleted User Asterix would like that idea maybe...

@Beginner's Tech , PP makes sense if you have ties already and of course a good record in the trade. From our investigations, v3 & v4 and it´s after math might reach a point of convincing satisfaction by the end of the year, especially since we have now thousand of PP folks having time to get on the next level. There is actually an entire industry (injection moulding) which is being monopolized since the last 10 years. They managed to buy hundreds of companies and drive up the price. We´re still investigating how to get PP having their foot in the door sometime next year. Breaking up supply chains is always extreme difficult for peer producers. (edited)

10:18 PM

And then yes, there is still the route of getting machines in bars, schools, restaurants, hotels (in progress) and creating a sub waste stream of clean plastic. We have results about this undergoing soon (project "Asterix" and "FightClub")

@Deleted User I have not heard anything about astrix and fightclub do you have more info on this?

@Beginner's Tech What you are touching on is something crucial to the paradigm shift we are currently experiencing... i'm not just talking about the fallout from covid either. We are right now in the beginning phase of the 3rd industrial revolution. This will have as much of an impact on the world as the previous ones. The way things are done will change significantly. The 3 main factors which will influence and drive this shift are: the decentralization of supply chains and labor; the Internet of Things; and 3D printing. The combined influence of these factors will create a new landscape of production and manufacturing, moving away from centralized, bulk manufacturing, towards localized short supply chains, interlinked at high speed via IoT. Of course most of us here believe (are banking on the hope) that this will take place in an open source framework. https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Third_Industrial_Revolution.html?id=vbVELATjyEUC&source=kp_cover&redir_esc=y

The Third Industrial Revolution

Asterix : https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/products/asterix , print and grind module not quite public yet. "fightclub" is basically 3d print, just for PPers, in small and big : https://github.com/plastic-hub/noah

10:22 PM

"fightclub" is an insider name, I can´t talk about

aint no party like an f club party

okay interesting.

so for example maybe in a 'circular economy' we could collect points on a card using a PIR code maybe, every time we shred a bottle, then we can spend those points at a linked 3D printshop to get something printed in recycled filament.

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@Frederik C (ZA) i mean.. how is the answer not going to be yes?

the site is actually correct in it´s functionality, also no strange scripts,... i think it´s a well known page as far I remember (edited)

10:51 PM

i justed tested, everything is alright

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an insider name, I can´t talk about Shouldn't it be called Project Tyler?

All the others are first names.

death-squad on your way

"Robert Poulson?"

Thats my bad, I was in the wrong discord channel

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Mr White is fine

in Tyler we trusted

It's a legitimate website that checks if an email account has been compromised, it checks the email against email address/password lists that have been leaked to the internet

@M. , yeah - we tested - it works.

My bad, On another note I'm studying cyber security, so if you guys need a hand or any advice with cyber-security related stuff feel free to message me

So, the point is to check if you should change your password?

Yeah, what accounts, the combo-list it was leaked in, and if you find that list you can see your password as plain-text

10:59 PM

It also tells you what websites/services they were leaked from

I'm surprised passwords aren't stored as hash-values, or something.

they are usually, it´s more about having your email address, password is plus but mostly useless nowadays. made me think about how I can transfer all infrastructure in case of the death.

11:08 PM

well, possibly gov. pages store in plain, here you still need a reserve Windows XP computer to interact with gov. services

Yeah, non-centralized "dead man switches" are tricky. Like some of the early elite hackers had. They had systems that needed to be reset every 24 hours, to avoid an automatic e-mail being sent to media outlets. I wonder if Snowden has one. If so, the dirt it contains on the Russian government must be insane.

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They are stored as hash normally, however you can "unhash" them by putting passwords through the same hashing algorithm, creating tables that say "this hash is this value", its long and often takes a while.

Diy hydraulic ram + power pack..

@Frederik C (ZA) luckily media today to belongs to the same company, producing toilet paper en mass. Snowden has a little more than just the Russians, but no worry about the sheeps, after 2 weeks this tumult is gone as well, everybody goes back sleep @Timberstar MakeItExtreme, yeah, definitely despite I am wondering how much run out his chuck has (he upgraded recently), Stan contacted me today saying thanks for the contribs, I was wondering to continue some of the long forum fun posts on Reddit just but turns out it´s buggy as well, but hey, even the Reddit guys have Markdown, which is the tool Nr. 1 for the F club - don't tell anyone (edited)

I suppose if you have a proper 2048+ bit private key, and a few people you more or less trust, you could break the key into a few pieces and give one piece each to a group of friends. Then you tell them that if they can verify that you're dead, they should announce that they have a piece of the key, and the other key-holders can reveal themselves and recombine the key, entrusted to someone chosen by the group, or named in your will, or something. Also, not fool-proof. And, of course, total overkill, unless the information is very important. But potentially life-altering for whistleblowers and their families.

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I still have showers on my back about Lavabit (Snowdens EMail provider being forced to hand over keys). There are amazing stories on http://www.groklaw.net/, another service which shutdown as consequence. Some of the cases literally chained me to the screen for months, better than any movie.

dank link

GoogleVsOracle btw. is an excellent case to start with, makes you hope there are still judges out there (replaced one by one) who can do simple math, and even a sorting algorithm and just laugh at this height of ridiculousness

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We had a case like that last year, in the State Capture inquiry where a whistleblower gave prosecutors an encrypted hard-drive of government correspondence a year in advance, because he first had to get his wife and children out of the country and set up in a new life abroad. Presumably because he thinks assassination would be more difficult overseas, or something. Granted, it's ridiculously easy, here.

oh dear, good nite, the revolution will be Discordized.

The main accused in the inquiry (the billionaire ringleaders of the shadow government) are ready for the revolution. A few years ago, TV cameras spotted one of these parked in their Johannesburg mansion compound:

no doubt about what the front bit is for..

It's a military spec Marauder, designed and built in South Africa. It can drive over landmines, through buildings, and can withstand a direct hit from a RPG.

1:22 AM

A it's illegal for civilians to have one.

it is not as far as I am aware, the British tv show Top Gear reviewed it and said as long as you have £300,000 and can pass a background check, you can legally own one. Although, the military spec version with the gun turret on the roof is unavailable to purchase for civilians

@Frederik C (ZA) what i don't get is what are they gonna do when they're the only ones left? that seems almost as terrifying a prospect as ours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDoRmT0iRic

Top Gear

The Marauder | Ten Ton Military Vehicle | Top Gear | BBC

Yes, I saw the Top Gear thing. But only foreigners can buy them. Not us. But money "changes the rules" I guess.

It does look like a good vehicle though

1:28 AM

perfect for transporting your large stash of toilet rolls home from the shops in these tough times of panic buying if you want to keep them safe

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@evanh3103 apparently the latest russian tanks now have on board toilets so you don't have to risk getting shot when you get out for a poo

ahhh, Russia

1:32 AM

most British armoured vehicles hav been equipped with "boiling vessels" (glorified tea kettles) since the end of WW2

"glorified" lol

@Timberstar did you read what Russian soldiers used before their tanks had toilets?

er... no..

they used ammo cans nicknamed Putin's poo tins

The Marauder is just Plan D. Plan C is bribes. Plan B is having every major politician in your pocket. Plan A is very good lawyers and a private jet that can "magically" take off and take you to Dubai, even when there is a warrant out for your arrest. (edited)

smh

When the Hawks (our version of the FBI) went to "raid" the mansion, they couldn't get in. They stood in front of the gates for a few hours. And it was like: "Oh, not now? Okay, we'll make an appointment and come back later."

In Britain, if your important in any way and are suspected of doing something criminal, you are dealt with immediately by the police and the media hound you

@evanh3103 errr Prince who?

1:52 AM

our elites are among the worst of the lot

there was the case with the singer Cliff Richard a few years ago where someone told the police he was a part of a VIP paedophile ring so the police raided his house with no evidence and someone in the police force tipped off the media who filmed everything, they then found Cliff to be totally innocent

cliff richard is important?

Not really, but by important I meant famous

it´s soo easy to get you hunted by the secret service in the UAE as well btw.

oh man, lets just say its a very deep rabbit hole

the last place to go, speaking of experience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnCS4qfl4iI

sqwuade

Shit Hawks - Trailer Park Boys

Hi, Im building a injection machine (exactly the same form the main video), but i can't find the specifications of the tubes (the one that presses the plastic nor the one you heat). some one can help me?

yeah, let me write a little article tomorrow, after writing it the 87th times, it´s easy

2:02 AM

@Timberstar , driving is indeed safer than walking after a bottle

"The things you own, end up owning you."

luckily I am past the ownership model

"On a long enough timeline, everyone's survival rate drops to zero."

ownership bs is what PP ruined for me and the rest btw.

2:14 AM

a little bit like seeing the nice guys in Fast Furious 1 happy doing races and now they have tanks

"You met me at a very weird time in my life."

that are just quotes, something more ?

They are quotes, but a lot of people miss the symbolism in the film. It's quite deep actually. It went over a lot of heads.

ok, i guess i am not in the sate of mind right now

I think it became a cult hit only some years after the first release. The initial marketing was all wrong. People thought it was going to be a popcorn action movie. So, those who expected that, were disappointed. And those who didn't want to see popcorn action, didn't go see it. (Including me.) It found its audience afterwards through word of mouth.

Great sketch about the UK army. Must be from around 2003. I remember Colin Powell's WMD "testimony" was around the time of my birthday that year.

Also, FYI... As I've alluded to before, South Africa was on the brink of civil war in the early 90s. And I personally know people who genuinely had death squads sent for them. I know you were just joking, though. But the history is harsh. Just saying...

@Frederik C (ZA) what's your take on bitcoin fella?

It's a great time to buy some stocks... but I am too young @Timberstar

@Deleted User just saw ur post on reddit, i had a feeling there was a slight uptick in newcomers today

3:51 AM

@Lazy_Turtle well i am too broke

but if i could invest now i would go for gold, silver, bitcoin, and short on oil futures

No you should sell gold now

3:52 AM

It's one of the most safe resource, so there is a need for it

3:53 AM

no way i would sell gold now, its one of the only hedges against hyperinflation, which is a strong possibility when banks are printing money like crazy to fight covid

No you should sell gold now

@Lazy_Turtle This information was kind of old, even gold is fallin

3:58 AM

I guess don't buy it

i think thats the dollar in a dead cat bounce

Same thing happened in 2008

its just the beginning of this whole thing

When they panic, they start to sell everything

this is waaay bigger than 2008

Yeah

4:00 AM

But few people will get rich

4:00 AM

like CRAZY

2008 was caused mostly by internal problems in the market, eg sub prime mortgages. this time its caused by something external which we still have absolutely no idea how to beat

That's true

and its affecting everything, basically everything has stopped

But I only know 2008 by the news.. I was 2 years old

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4:04 AM

Only Uber eats is getting rich

for now yes, wait until they can't find ingredients

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In Japan, 10% of the TV commercials is Uber eats

4:06 AM

Lots of plastic

the world will start to realize how fragile the food supply chain is when we rely on these large companies

They trick you, like in the Storyhopper of Lithium

@Timberstar yeah, was playing around a little, looks like we need a strategy and few more tools to promote PP on the network; A list of target platforms would be great, Reddit, Hackaday, ...

@Deleted User Can do

Have been working on a skeleton for a Hydraulic Power Pack project... want me to open a project file on the repo? it seems like quite a doable product, something to play around with in the background.. (edited)

yes please

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lockdown positivity tip of the day- listen to radiohead's discography in reverse

1:29 PM

not actually backwards obviously (edited)

Guys I am interested in Project Kamp and other projects, but where do we discuss it now... I can't really contribute to the projects because there is no forum for those projects.

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@Lazy_Turtle - that made my day

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What is project kamp?

Project Kamp is to me a small scale version of PP, just the ways between the houses are shorter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-qZBVlsq0Y

Project Kamp 1 - Start prototyping another way of living

Hey, is anybody here that I can talk to right now?

4:45 PM

I'm including this Project in some Seminar work that I have to do for school and I have a few questions that would be useful for it

4:47 PM

Seems like nobody is answering, so I'll just leave my questions here:

4:47 PM

How many countries are already actually using and also successfully using the Precious Plastic Machines?

4:48 PM

And the second one is, in how many places in Germany can you hand in your shredded Plastic?

@Erion Everything is disrupted by C19 lockdowns, at the moment. You should find all the information you need from the map: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

@Timberstar I don't think I'm up for a serious discussion on Bitcoin. Maybe we can DM about it, if you think it's important. I'm not well versed in the subject, really. Smells very "pyramidy" to me.

Thanks alot! @Frederik C (ZA)

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@davehakkens heey Dave, ik heb een vraagje. Voor school moet ik een verslag maken over jou shredder. Die moest ik ook maken, maar nu moet ik in mijn verslag werktekeningen zetten. Dus had ik jou download link gedownload maar nu heb ik die oude tekeningen nodig niet van die geupdate versie... maar nu komt het probleem. Ik kan die oudere tekeningen pakket niet openen omdat die beschadigd is. Is het mogelijk dat u mijn die kunt toe sturen via de mail. door het corona virus mag ik die tekeningen niet op school ophalen en mijn verslag moet volgende week ingeleverd. Kun u me daar bij helpen om toch die tekeningen te krijgen van die niet geupdate shredder? Vriendelijke groet Jenina

hello Iam carlos

10:45 PM

fromo argentina

10:46 PM

*from

10:47 PM

I can't fownd about the plastic in the page that they use

@Lazy_Turtle : what was the link to your page again ? Last time I checked there were some errors with the specs (400V) and the min. invest which were partly too high or too low

11:18 PM

@carlos24 : ¿puedes escribir en español?

Hi there, i can't login into the preciousplastic site, is it having troubles?

Hola! Dose anyone knows if you can use an electric wood chipper as a plastic Shredder machine??

@Kugi there are some videos on youtube where people have done it

@Timberstar thanks! ill look it up

@Kugi https://www.instructables.com/id/Low-Cost-Plastic-Shredder/

Low Cost Plastic Shredder

Low Cost Plastic Shredder: I have been looking for a way to shred my waste 3D printed parts and support material so i would be able to turn it back into filament. Most of the commercially available ones on the market start at around $500 and having parts water jet to make a...

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@Deleted User A friend has something like this. But it scares me that when if I put plastic on it I could damage the machine.... (as the machine is not mine)

@Deleted User hola si si dime

@Deleted User Do you mean the community page?http://preciousplasticjapan.simplesite.com/445721466

プレシャス

プラスチックごみ問題をもうご存知でしょう。深刻さを理解してください。プレシャスプラスチックは、プラスチックごみを減らすために存在します。リサイクルを促進することもあります。時々、新しい生分解性素材を作ることもあります。環境汚染ゼロのライフスタイルを取り入れることもあります。できることなら何でも。プレシャスプラスチックは、変化をもたらすために人々に頼っています。プレシャスプラスチックは、人、機械、プラットフォーム、知識の組み合わせです。誰もがプレシャスプラスチックユニバースに参加できます（あなたも！）プレシャスプラスチック本部より

I need power requirements technical support??? don't seem to have access to chat in any useful channels?????

Hello! Hola! I would like to share with you our recently started crowdfunding campaign and our new blog. We are from Paraguay, South America. We follow Precious Plastic since 2017, we already built the plastic shredder as a school project but it wasn´t efficient. Now we are saving money to start a bussiness in our city based on plastic recycling, because as you know, we are in difficult times, and somehow we need to get to work. The link to our blog is https://reciclandoparaguay.blogspot.com/ , and the crowdunfing campaign is https://www.lanzanos.com/proyectos/paraguay-recicla/ . Thank you for your attention! Please share it with your friends, that would make us very happy! Gracias!

Paraguay Recicla

Blog dedicado a documentar el proceso de la creación de una empresa de reciclaje y procesamiento de desechos plásticos para la comercialización de productos hechos de materiales 100% reciclados.

Paraguay Recicla

Iniciativa creada con el objetivo de reducir la cantidad de desechos plásticos, creando nuevos productos a partir de éstos.

@Deleted User ooh that looks good. Thanks for sharing man.

Hi everyone, I'm new to Discord so please excuse me if my query is unsuitable here. I have a very fundamental question (and possibly dumb to some extent). We've recently begun an environmental startup and would like to be a part of PP Map. We fall under the category of 'Workplace' as the PP website defines it. The site seems to emphasize more on initiating a startup but I couldn't find any info on my situation. Can anybody guide me on joining PP Map. Many thanks

Hello folks, glad to join in during a time like COVID. I am in Sacramento, Ca. U.S.A. I am getting all kinds of feedback about the rise in plastic consumption during this time. Looking to help with what I can where I am. Navy vet. Run a 501(c)3 providing housing to student veterans. Hoping to apply practices learned here in our housing across different locations.

Hi there, Introducing Precious Plastic in Barbados... Setting up a collection point and a workshop.

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You might be the first one, can someone make a channel for Barbado?

Someone that sell gearbox to this shredder for a great price?

11:03 PM

11:06 PM

https://twitter.com/BBCFOUR/status/1250743237721182208?s=09

BBC Four (@BBCFOUR)

We throw away 200 million toothbrushes a year, but luckily this idea will mean they can be recycled. #HowtoMake @zoelaughlin https://t.co/lPQbQPpcaf

1:21 AM

Interesting snippet about toothbrush design and manufacture.

hallo guten Morgen, ich bin auf der Suche nach motivierten und engagierten Leuten, die sich gerne mit mir austauschen möchten. Ich habe eine plastikfreie VErpackung für Frischfleisch entwickelt - mit der man sich Plastik einspart und auch noch das Geschirrabwaschen. Nun möchte ich mein Herzensprojekt weiterentwickeln und brauche Menschen die mir weiterhelfen könnten durch Austausch. Ich suche Menschen die Verantworung übernehmen und die es auch richtig ärgert dass es so viel Plastik gibt und scheinbar nichts (nicht viel) weitergeht. Schreibt mir gerne eine Nachricht. Ich freue mich sehr.

hello i m looking for some people to talk about plastic and project against plastic packaging. i am working on a project and would be happy to find some people to chat with. please write me a mail.

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@Monika hi there

hey...

@Monika what kind of project are you doing?

Hello! I'm attempting to create a machine to use recycled plastic for very fine soft filament similar to textiles. I have seen this done large scale but never in home. Would a regular extruder used for 3D print work if temperature is increased? Does anyone know of any ways to complete this?

@izabelle462 : welcome to the club, here's a dossier, please watch the first video. There are also 'started' community projects but we can't say we actually reached a consensus: https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/articles/filament/

Thank you

#media :https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9378216/?ref_=ttmi_tt (edited)

The Story of Plastic (2019) - IMDb

Directed by Deia Schlosberg. We only know the end of the story...and that's just the beginning.

Hello! I am new. Just discovered the website and it's really exciting to see what is going on here. I live in Vancouver, BC and am interested in starting something up.

https://formlabs.com/uk/blog/diy-injection-molding/

Hello, I have just signed up to this website and would appreciate guidance in my reason for signing up. I am interested to know what has been the public response to products made from post consumer plastics. I am from Malaysia. (edited)

Hi all! I am from Los Angeles California and just found out about all these information! I have a full time career right now but was interested to see if I can learn more about this starting from a hobby perspective, or help someone out. Awesome concept and projects!

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/amp/Recycling-takes-a-hit-in-coronavirus-California-15211553.php

3:08 AM

Thanks @Timberstar I was searching for more info on mold making.

Hello all, my name is Benjamin and I'm attempting to bring precious plastic to the Hawaiian islands. I've mapped out the business space and optimal placements of machines for a given space however I would like some input from you all! First off what machines/companies do you personally reccomend for the creation process and why? List in question as follows:

Lathe
Drill press
Welding machine
Belt sander
Angle grinder
Hand pipe threader
Flute Carbon steel Taps
Clamps

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seems right, bench grinder, metal band saw, hand plasma & mill is missing. the welder should be on a good cart, together with the TIG welder. mobile tool cart turns out also really handy, they can be quite expensive though. we do most on 20sqm just

here's good input too : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqTDfpIpub4 (edited)

colinfurze

Colin Furze Workshop/Tools Tour & Wolverine Claws

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11:58 AM

btw, a second smaller drill press right to your primary drill press is really useful since you can support bigger parts that way.

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Good morning all ! I am a young French entrepreneur and I am looking for someone who has the machines needed to recycle plastic for a collaborative project

I have been looking at plants stuff, for an efficient personal urban farming. Turns out all of what plants need are in urine... anything else is substrate to support physically. It might be possible to do high yield farm bases entirely on recycling. Without ever touching nature if not for initial seeds.

Who is from SA

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/692143143877083196/701567140205035570 But I'm a bit suspicious of them, now.

They are very good at disguises.

No-one seems to be mentioning this, Today is

Day!

❤️

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o snap, so it is!

11:21 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day

11:23 AM

Earth Day 2020 is the 50th Anniversary of Earth Day. Celebrations will include activities such as the Great Global CleanUp, Citizen Science, Advocacy, Education, and art.[26][27][28]

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11:23 AM

huh. didn't realise it had been around that long

The feedback channel is blocked. This is getting stupid.

you need a role

11:29 AM

and it will work again, head to #🖐start-here

@Deleted User thanks

This has just been released last night for Earth Day. I suppose many will find it interesting to watch although it is not an extremely fun documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE

Michael Moore

Michael Moore Presents: Planet of the Humans | Full Documentary | D...

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4:03 PM

@Deleted User avez vous regardé dans le channel #deleted-channel? I guess it is for a French collaboration?

You guys have to watch this. Know the reality. I hate lies

hello, can anyone tell me how it work if i want to start a project and give it open source to as many people as possible. How do i promote this? How do i pay this whole thing? Anybody who can help me with this thing? thanks

You gotta be more specific

6:01 PM

Its you who wants to start a project, do your research and if you dont get it ask (edited)

@Jonatan | NL ??

Hi guys! I'm working on a geodesic dome project and I came across the precious plastic video about extruding beams - got me thinking :) has much research been done into the stress/strain qualities of these beams?

7:31 PM

(lemme know if there's a more suitable channel to ask this :) )

Hello Everyone! I teach at a school in Vancouver, Canada and I was curious if anyone who is using one of the Precious Plastic designs in their community would like to hang out with some students for a lunch time at our weekly Our World Club meeting. It is a sustainability club where we have guests talk to us about all things sustainable, especially projects that they can get involved in. Student empowerment is the key!

7:51 PM

Don't know if this is the channel for it, but if you have leads, send me in that direction! It is a super casual, lunch time meet and greet!

@SP - Ira Cooperhi there

@Deleted User I'm still slowly assessing web services for community co-ordination. Might as well, right?

We're not getting out of the crisis any time soon. The problem with new services popping up, is that they might be set up as malware bait. What's a way to be reasonably confident that a new website is okay to use? (I know it can't be 100%.) (edited)

10:37 PM

For now, if I find nothing better than a combo of uMap for mapping and Discord for messaging, I'll be okay with that.

@Frederik C (ZA) @Deleted User i always liked phpBB messgeboards, nice and simple

@Frederik C (ZA) , @Ve Lxr , @Timberstar , hey, I am out for today, will answer tomorrow

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How come, out?? Is this even allowed??

Actually everyone is out... of their minds...

10:53 PM

@Timberstar What's with all the "1984" dates? An Orwell reference? (I'm not that familiar with Wikileaks. I usually rely on YouTubers to give me the "short version" of new leaks.)

yea

10:54 PM

1984 101

10:56 PM

wonder who's in the 'SA Refuge Chambers' right now...

Oh, gaawwwd...

Do I want to know what that is?

seems like you guys built some underground survival complex

11:00 PM

the main find so far among these leaks seems to be about Merkel

Might be revamped left-overs from the Apartheid Regime. They were pretty paranoid. The current guys just keep their private jets fueled and ready for a quick getaway, I think. Mostly because they can't trust each other. Den of vipers. (edited)

having read a few pages it seems innocent, refuge areas in mines in case of collapse

11:07 PM

meanwhile in other news, the Gates foundation, WHO and Wuhan Virus institute have all been hacked

hi guys anyone have the solidworks design of the basic shredder? if someone could help me it would be great!

all CAD files are in the download pack. yea it's dumb, we are trying to get it changed

danggg its ok man ty

One question:

11:27 PM

https://youtu.be/h6kh2RJl1dQ

TheCrafsMan SteadyCraftin

Easy Metal Casting - Plastic to Pewter Sogmaster Figure + DIY Decals

11:27 PM

Would I be able to do this right here with some ABS plastic?

11:28 PM

I intend to test this out soon.

11:30 PM

I'm thinking this is gonna work.

not really

11:31 PM

you need some pressure

11:32 PM

im gonna make a How To about how my brother does it , resin cast barrel and plunger, dead easy

11:33 PM

11:34 PM

the mould is in the bottom section, heat plastic in the top section in an oven, then stack and plunge with a drill press

Aww

11:35 PM

Well this method looks better.

i will try to do the how to this evening

Waiting to see, just found some abs, gonna see if I can shred.

abs is stinky, go for HDPE

I know it's a problem, but isn't it better for toys?

@Timberstar it seems innocent, refuge areas in mines Sounds more like a plan to send terminal, infected patients there to die. We have the deepest mines on Earth, but they are basically death traps.

11:51 PM

I wanted to help your conversation, but Google is obviously broken, because when I enter "shredded abs" I get this:

What I mean is, would HDPE work better as plastic for toys, or would ABS? I ask cuz I would be more than willing to take HDPE instead.

research it

@Frederik C (ZA) Well that helps too! XD I always wanted a hot bod. :P

11:53 PM

I have been trying. Literally no info so far. Only thing else I heard is HDPE shrinks. I'll just have to test it myself.

@Uplifted Isn't ABS more toxic than HDPE? I guess that since toys are mainly for kids, some kids will try to chew on ABS. But it's not like kids gonna lick and chew toys all the time.

It's probably about compression strength. Lego is made from ABS. Did you chew your Legos? Mine had bite marks on. When I couldn't get the bricks apart with my tiny fingers, I chomped them with my jaws of steel.

12:32 AM

@Timberstar I looked at the "Refuge Chamber" PDF. It's probably related to safety standards that were recommended for SA mines, but not implemented due to cost cutting. Killing miners (and minors) is one of our national hobbies.

aha yea that makes sense. a lot of the leaks relate to legal cases which arent specified

@Filagain Admittedly it is true that ABS is fairly toxic but from what I gather it is more toxic to burn than to consume. I imagine it would only be toxic if consumed but usually such parts are regulated by ages and recommending adult supervision. Though the plan isn't necessarily to sell to kids, so much as it is to sell to adults. Or young adults. (edited)

12:42 AM

It is one of the reasons LEGO is trying to find a more natural alternative to their toy production. PLA they say is a much more promising option that can be made with a few house hold ingredients. However I feel that would defeat the purpose of taking out plastics from the landfills to make into a useful and less harmful material.

Did you chew your Legos? ABS is fairly toxic Yeah, growing up in the 80s, when parents knew nothing, was fun.

Well... for some of us.

(edited)

@Uplifted I finished the how to... i'll post it in #archived-machines

Hello All, I’m new here and I don’t know much about Discord yet either. I’m an engineer with my own small shop in Derbyshire UK. I clicked on a random You Tube video and it showed a guy making plastic billets in a homemade press/mincer style machine. I’m interested and I want to know more. How can help?

@Wint3rsmith Hello there, fellow Brit!

1:46 AM

Have you visited preciousplastic.com?

1:49 AM

@Wint3rsmith As an engineer, you will probably be more interested in https://precious-plastic.org/ (edited)

PlasticHub

Machines - Precious Plastic Library

precious plastic machines tutorials shredder extrusion injection bazar wiki filament mold molding diy

1:53 AM

@Wint3rsmith there is a #deleted-channel discord channel (on the left, scroll down), always excited to meet new members; most of the engineering-related action goes on in the #archived-machines channel

1:55 AM

@Wint3rsmith what kind of stuff do you build in your shop?

Interesting article, I didn't know that most plastics in the US are made from natural gas, not oil: https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=34&t=6

hello, can anyone tell me how it work if i want to start a project and give it open source to as many people as possible. How do i promote this? How do i pay this whole thing? Anybody who can help me with this thing? thanks

@Monika Try crowdfunding, I think that's the only thing you can do now in this situation

5:36 AM

How much do I need? Is the question you might have. https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/business-tools.html

Precious Plastic Business Tools

Discover Precious Plastic business tools that help people turn their recycling passion into a successfull business.

@Timberstar Not made from oil, but transported by oil.

Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE , it's very educational(In my opinion) If I'm a social studies teacher, I would show students this.

Michael Moore

Michael Moore Presents: Planet of the Humans | Full Documentary | D...

i will but not right now, ive just spent all night reading depressing stuff (edited)

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Refresh.

6:05 AM

Reminds me of Project Kamp. Has a demand.

6:11 AM

History is lost...

Random idea, We can reduce plastic straw waste by making the cup w i d e. Small change, BIG difference

6:30 AM

Looks weird, but it's interesting

@Lazy_Turtle Aint that just a bowl with short straw lol

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Design...

Amount of plastic

@Timberstar , yeah - after the Michael Moore movie and cherry-picking Wikileaks files we had exactly the same on mind, going to bed, complete destroyed

(edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) : the problem with 'new' apps/services is that those just got out of wet towels and often lack essential features which could easily ruin your project. As a thumb of rule, if Wikipedia didn't list it yet, skip it

Discord as said is nice for chat but that's about it. If you manage to find something more accessible where content is preserved ( at least kinda eliminating duplicates) you might have a better chance to build a knowledge base. Joomla/Wordpress with some plugins as said might do well enough, you can add a chat module in top of course.

I think Discord is functioning well for the sub for FAQ/Short-term things. But I am also interested in other chat systems in a website, it's more focused to one content.

chat distracts people from getting stuff done, I should put this in my status, please don't speak to me otherwise I am talking for hours :-))))

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not sure what i think about this: https://phys.org/news/2020-04-cement-factories-global-plastic-pollution.html

Cement factories can put the brakes on global plastic pollution

Hope in the midst of crisis. Overflowing landfill sites in Asia may prove to be goldmines for local cement producers. So say researchers at the Norwegian research organization, SINTEF, who have extensive experience with the same concept in China.

Let me try this again - I am a teacher who runs a sustainability group at my school in Canada. We are all online and meet every Tuesday for 30 minutes to keep our little active community together and provide support and information about the sustainability and our parts in it. I have started to invite guests to come hang out with us, people who are active in some form with sustainability. Anyone who is running a Precious Plastics machine or doing something in the realm of sustainability interested in being our guest? Super casual, we use ZOOM and just hang out and ask questions.

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@SP - Ira Cooper Whereabouts in Canada are you? I’ve done some presentations for a couple of school groups in southern Ontario. I might be able to help you out with that.

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@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) hi there

@Timberstar @Deleted User @dev_300710 sorry guys for the late reply, im not active here as much. Thanks you for your kind words @Deleted User, I'll try and be more active here

Hi everyone, this is Jaekwan from South Korea. I am glad to join here.

11:43 AM

Oh you can just call me Aksan

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I just have a question, how can i distinguish bet Thermoplastic and Thermoset??

11:52 AM

by just burning is the only way?

Annyeonghaseyo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsqLJNyrVss&t=1s I hope this one helps you. You can identify by the logo, floating or you can just memorize it.

Precious Plastic - learn about plastic

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@Lazy_Turtle Annyeonghaseyo. Me and my members launched a startup called Trash Busters in Sep,2019. We are offering multi-use cups and dishes for the festivals, theaters, stadiums to reduce single use plastic.

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I'm in the middle of a break in online learning, I will be offline in 4 minutes. I think other friendly people will help you.

I like Kimuchi

@Lazy_Turtle Thanks!

@Aksan of Trash Busters Go to #🖐start-here and give yourself a role.

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@Aksan of Trash Busters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TWO9gSM30Y in 0:41 , someone from South Korea is on the video. And this video is more than 3 years ago.

Make plastic recycling go bananas

1:12 PM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/map I see two pins in South Korea.

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Hello everybody! I am doing a university job in which I have to redesign a product so that it is ecological taking into account all the life cycle analysis and I don't know what to do. I have thought about redesigning a wooden or steel stool and making it from recycled plastic. But I'm not sure if it would be greener. I hope you can help me Thank you!

It's already made

3:43 PM

https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/products.html More inspiration here

Explore a world of opportunities with recycled plastic. Learn how to recycle plastic waste into amazing products.

Of course, I was inspired by your page and of course you will have the credits. Worse I have to do nothing new, just analyze it. But according to the analysis of the life cycle, a wooden stool is less ecological than one made of plastic like the one on your page?

@svvke How about studying the enviromental effect on plastic pallets instead of wooden ones? Just sharing an idea

hello guys,please i need a design of a plastic shredder for plastic water bottles

Good idea, but how bad are they? And the idea that would be? Make them from recycled plastic?

@Said Elhaj https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredder

Filament Maker - Recycle Filament for Any 3D Printer

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

4:26 PM

@svvke Don´t have the answers to those questions, suppose it is part of your UNI study. In order to determine how bad are wooden pallets, ask yourself how many trees are needed to creat x amount of pallets. Ideal depends on what your ecological goal is set to be. Yes, my suggestion would be to make them from recycle plastic, tackle plastic waste and avoid wooden pallets into growing industry.

Thank you so much!!

Wood is not a bad thing, its easy to get rid of and it just grows back. The problem is chemically treated wood

@ごみ子 thank youu!

@svvke Sorry, I misunderstood. If you need help, we are here to help

Hey guys, I forgot to share my project on this main chat room before. So I run this startup project called "Filagain", it's an eCommerce platform for selling 3D print materials with integrated recycling platform where we will basically buy 3D print waste like from using print supports or failed prints, etc - from our users and gave them points that can be used to purchase new 3D print materials again; meanwhile the collected 3D print waste will be processed into shreds and pellets and distributed to various producers and makers to create fresh 3D print materials again or other plastic products. This will make the growing 3D printing practice more environmentally sustainable and also more economical in the long run

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5:35 PM

So I got a website up already. It's filagain.com . If you're a 3D printer user as well and interested with this project, you can fill a mini survey on the website; that will help me determine if there's an actual demand of this idea or nah.I This isn't operational yet, i'm still looking feedbacks from other 3D printer users on some other groups. (edited)

Why only 3d print waste itself?

8:20 PM

Other companys are already doing that. To really add something to the market you should also recycle injection molded products i think.

8:21 PM

@Filagain

@Filagain have you looked into how much filament will cost to make, profit margin etc? Rough estimates have shown that you will need 20+ extruders to become profitable

@Timberstar right now I don't care about profit margins, if you want you can use my project as a test case, I want to help I don't need wages I will get the raw plastic for free I've got a small shredder I need a small excruder just for proof of concept and advice, I can then apply for grants I have a few people helping with that. If your thinking this guy is a nutter (your properly right) but if I can run a hobby on benefits supplying over 400 computer systems http://tubbscomputersupplies.org/ or have a look on Facebook I can do this

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@ChrisHunnisett i am genuinely humbled. Bravo

11:21 PM

@ChrisHunnisett I would go for a purpose made filament extruder like Filabot

11:21 PM

@ChrisHunnisett https://www.filabot.com/

3D Filament Extruders, make filament from almost any plastic. Allowing you to 3D Print with the materials you use for production. Recycle plastic into filament creating a closed loop recycling system.

@Timberstar fantastic thank you I will look now

as a caveat i have no experience with that machine but it seems sensible to skip the lengthy construction phase if you can

@Timberstar I have a mechanical engineer that will build any machine for me

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New to all this. Just been thinking about all the plastic types that are out there and in my home and my business. Run my own electrical contactors business here in Victora Australia. I decided to review all the types of plastics that i use or come across in my work place. ( Conduit, power point / switches, enclosures, cable ties and stirafoam ) Now most of these items are install and stay in play for a very long time, but there are times you need to rework or replace parts and I am now looking at what I can recycle and what I cant. The two items that first come to mind are conduit and stirafoam from the packaging of some parts or equipment. Copper cable with the PVC covering I take to metal recycler who informs me that they cut it up finely and the copper sinks and the PVC floats. So they seperate and do what they do. So my question is can anyone help me work out the best way to recycle these items above, other than reusing as is? (Understand PVC is toxic

Do you need a detailed information about plastic? https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics

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Does any one know how the marktplaast website works, there seems to be no option to put the website in english.... Do you place bids and that's it?

@the_troubleshooter I have this google translation add-on to google chrome. I can baerly understand the contents.

2:21 PM

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2:22 PM

https://www.marktplaats.nl/u/m-y/22664542/

≥ M&Y uit Eindhoven - Advertenties op Marktplaats

Alle advertenties van M&Y, Eindhoven op Marktplaats. Bekijk het aanbod van M&Y en vind producten en diensten tegen aantrekkelijke prijzen!

Thanks Ryoma ! I didn't get it works, you place bids and that's it ?

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Thanks Ryoma ! I didn't get it works, you place bids and that's it ?

@the_troubleshooter Usually people make a bid if they want it cheaper and not so interested. It works best to select the item you want and message the account holder you want it and start telling him how you think it can work to retrieve the item. Just try making the sell as easy as possible and you most of the time get the item. It probably is a bit difficult to send things to other countries nowadays, or to store it for them as there is no place to put it...

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I decided to use the bazar, it's too complicated.

Hi everyone!my name is federica and I live in sardinia(Italy). I discovered the precious plastic progect a few days ago and I think is amazing!I was looking for somenthing like that!

Other companys are already doing that. To really add something to the market you should also recycle injection molded products i think.

@Jonatan | NL Yeah there's companies like these, but none have try to operate in Asia yet. Besides, I'm thinking of some unique selling point beside the recycling feature itself. Also in the beginning, I may focus on 3D print waste only since I'm more familiar with it and can't do everything at once. Perhaps one day tho

10:36 AM

@Filagain have you looked into how much filament will cost to make, profit margin etc? Rough estimates have shown that you will need 20+ extruders to become profitable

@Timberstar well I don't intend to make the filaments, this will be provided by production partners. What the platform does is selling the filament, collect the waste, recycle it with the help of recycling partners, and distribute the shreds and pellets to production partners again

@Filagain If you want to spread your business to the world, I think you have to start with a community, not an individual. I think the hardest part is only the beginning. (edited)

Hi people. So i am thinking about doing a hydroponic system that can be produced via the precious plastic machines. Does anyone here know about food safety in materials? Say that i create a bucket from food safe plastics, can that bucket still be considered food safe, or does something happen to the plastic while being heated? Thanks a ton

@Emil Currently Precious Plastic's bowl is not recommended to use for food. I think we need to do some research on it. I am not a professional on plastic, so you might find more professional/experienced people in #archived-plastic. Another option is to apply other liquid or material on Plastic so that plastic does not contact food directly.

11:24 AM

What kind of Hydroponic system are you trying to create?

11:25 AM

I've heard it's difficult to profit from it

11:26 AM

Where do you plan to make a system?

11:27 AM

It's one of the crucial factor

Well, it is still very much on the drawing board, so i am open to suggestions. The idea of coating could definetely work, i will look into that. I will be mentoring some school students in sustainability, so profit is not something i am trying to reach, at least it's not the most important aspect. Though i think profitability is achievable, depending on the crop. As it is for a school, i am considering creating a few different hydroponic setups, in order for the kids to compare them (this could be used as a crossdisciplinary activity between a few different classes i imagine). For starters, i will likely go with the Kratky method, and a leafy green, as that is what is the most simple method

11:28 AM

And as it will be in Denmark, i will need to add artificial light for at least part of the year

11:28 AM

Looking into a few different solutions, and it seems that LED is coming out on top these days

11:28 AM

Despite the higher startup cost

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I am actually a middle-school student, and my school has a hydroponic garden.

11:30 AM

I have heard of a method of making a small eco-system in hydroponic system

11:31 AM

Which means that animals... I think fish is included

11:31 AM

And their

makes the system sustainable

That's impressive! You raise some really good questions for a person your age, PLEASE keep doing precious plastic, you are the future

It's awesome seeing young people take an interest in sustainability, and that is exactly what i hope to get out of this.

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11:32 AM

And yes, you are referring to aquaponic, which is a sub category of hydroponics.

11:33 AM

It is super interesting, and i will definetely include it, as it is probably my favorite method

My school focused on sustainability, so there is a demand

@Lazy_Turtle Over here in Australia that would be called an aquaponic system. There’s some lovely Facebook photos

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@Lookhere It would be called that here as well

It is a bit harder to start up, but it's very cool once it gets going

School has a big effect on future

That's really great to hear!

I will try to find a photo of my school's system

Very nice, thank you! It's appreciated. Inspiration is always very welcome

Can't find it, but It brings dirty water from a river then cleans through the system, and letting it out

11:42 AM

It's not a closed system, it's connected to outside.

@Emil The type of fish you can grow seems very dependent on the temperature.

@Lazy_Turtle What kinda school do you go to, that seems amazing!

11:42 AM

@Lookhere And yes, that is the main "problem" to overcome

11:42 AM

But using local fish species is likely the best solution

https://www.jisedu.or.id/

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11:45 AM

It's a good school with good people.

Here’s a photo of a new set up

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@Lazy_Turtle Thank you! Seems like a good place yeah

11:46 AM

@Lookhere Which type of fish do you use in Australia? Tilapia?

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I am in Japan now, doing online learning.

11:47 AM

Do you have robotics class in your school? @Emil

11:48 AM

I measured moisture with electricity. Used Microbit

Hmmm no, i would think that that would be for a higher age group? Also seems expensive, but definetely cool

11:48 AM

Haha, i know about the microbit

11:48 AM

the bbc one right?

Yeah, it's made for education

Yeah, it is very cool. You should look into raspberry pi, or arduino, you might find it fun

Here is the basic code

11:50 AM

If moisture 300< then move motor A (pour water)

11:50 AM

Simplified

Nice to see people using it for something cool. The microbit is actually part of the danish school ccurriculum yeah. Except that it is called ultra bit here

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I tried EV3 too. But I quit Arduino because... too much coding

11:52 AM

https://makecode.microbit.org/ Till I find this:)

Microsoft MakeCode for micro:bit

A Blocks / JavaScript code editor for the micro:bit powered by Microsoft MakeCode.

11:52 AM

I think there should be some kind of sensor to measure temperature, moisture etc... Automating is optional.

11:53 AM

https://makecode.microbit.org/projects/plant-watering

Plant Watering

Water your plants automatically!

11:55 AM

Do you have PP machines?

11:55 AM

@Emil

Don't worry too much about arduino for now, the most important thing is to have fun with it. If you can make something useful with the microbit, stay with that, because the most important thing is to have fun.

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11:56 AM

For moist/ temp sensing, i can reccomend the DHT22 sensor, it is cheap and pretty good

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11:57 AM

And sadly no, i don't have the pp machines yet

11:57 AM

It is still on a planning stage, and corona has kinda put everything on hold

Are you planning to use PP machines to educate sustainability? (edited)

11:58 AM

It's hard have two projects going on at a same time (edited)

Yup, that will be the central part. Essentially, it will be a part of the school focused on sustainability. But as it will both contain pp machines and hydroponics, the two projects might as well support eachother

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Maybe find someone from #deleted-channel who can make machines for you?

I am already in contact witha few different metalworkers who can likely make the machines, luckily

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Sorry, had to help cooking

12:03 PM

So which one is the priority?

Well, they both are kinda. It is two seperate projects, and they are both still on the planning stage. They will serve different purpose, but they will all be centered around sustainability. It will be a pretty big project if it takes off

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Do you have "resources"?

12:06 PM

?

That is part of the planning process that has been put on hold due to corona

But funding seems pretty plausible at the moment

It will be pretty big I think

12:07 PM

Cooking, away for 5 min

no problem, enjoy

It's just mixing, lol

12:10 PM

I think the project will run smoothly after funding is done.

12:14 PM

My workspace was funded through teachers, so it ran smooth

Hopefully, yes

12:14 PM

And something like that is great

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Ok. I cook every 4 min. Sorry!

I'm back

12:23 PM

So step 1 gather

12:23 PM

Step 2 buy PreciousPlastic

machines

12:23 PM

Step 3 Make system

12:24 PM

Big project with some difficulties but with BIG impact

Yup, that is pretty much the plan ^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzGE4mBRPK0

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12:26 PM

I did not search for this, but in Youtube recommendation

12:27 PM

I'm pretty sure most people in my age get Memes in their feed

12:27 PM

This is too robotic

12:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD8n2CKEWtA This is really impressive

5-Minute Crafts VS

27 GARDENING HACKS YOU'LL WANT TO KNOW

12:29 PM

⬆️ This also has some hydroponic stuff

Lol. i do like robots, but that one seems a bit overkill for a lot of stuff xD Are you building such stuff?

No... I hate coding

12:34 PM

I only like "Block coding"

12:35 PM

By the way don't trust 5 min craft too much

Yup, five minute craft is often a total scam.

12:36 PM

Luckily, block coding is very accessible

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I think robotics and coding would be step 4

12:37 PM

Not a must, but it's cool

Robotics is further in the future (it really depends on your definition of robotics though). But coding will for sure be part of it. Nothing too complicated though, mainly to check water level and so on

First Law A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. Second Law A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. Third Law A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws. from wikipedia

12:41 PM

I don't consider these stuff often lol

12:42 PM

Time for dinner, I am 7 hours ahead I think

Hehe, hopefully the hydropnics setup won't become sentient just yet. Enjoy your food

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@Filagain If you want to spread your business to the world, I think you have to start with a community, not an individual. I think the hardest part is only the beginning.

@Lazy_Turtle True that

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Alright, guys and gals, what would each of you say is the most useless recyclable material? (edited)

Useless how?

Like it cannot be reused or repurposed for any other purpose than what it was originally intended for. And is likely never to be repurposed or reused for the same intended purpose due to the fact of being unnecessary.

Also it is almost impossible to be reformed or neutralized in such a way as to be harmless to the environment or at least there appears to be no discernable way.

Hmmm, as far as i know, Styrofoam is pretty difficult to recycle? That might be my bet

Optional: Also somehow in it's current form it somehow presents a danger to the environment by merely existing.

10:24 PM

Hmmm, as far as i know, Styrofoam is pretty difficult to recycle? That might be my bet

@Emil Ikr!?

10:24 PM

It's the literal worst.

10:27 PM

I think to paraphrase what I mean by useless. I mean something that doesn't figuratively and literally require that in order to recycle it one must delve into the realms of super science and alchemy. (edited)

I have done some experiments with mealworms, who are able to eat it, it is pretty interesting

Oh my gosh, yes, I had seen that experiment on a YouTube video.

If i had the knowledge/ skillset, i would check what comes out the other end for toxins. It would be cool if the mealworms were edible afterwards

10:29 PM

For either animal or human consumption i mean

I was just about to ask you if the excretions were useful for fertilizer.

Well normally insect "frass" is quite a decent fertilizer. But i would like to make sure that there's no trace of plastic left. I don't want to risk making more microplastic, and spreading it to my vegetables for example

I see. Perhaps some chemical could show if there is a trace of such plastic.

It would be awesome! Maybe someone here knows how

Makes me wish I studied chemistry. (edited)

if the excretions were useful for fertilizer We had a discussion on this in #archived-beyond-plastic, some months ago. Search the chat history.

@Lazy_Turtle I realised that you may not have a Facebook account because of your age. There’s plenty on Pinterest

@Lookhere Yeah I can't have a Facebook account and paypal(I earn some money online)account... age kind of restricts me... I will go make a Pinterest account now

@Frederik C (ZA) I knew there was a reason I joined this channel.

Hello. I’m a new user. I’m an entrepreneur seeking shredded plastic of various grades for a recreational concept. Can someone tell me where I can find wholesalers of plastic shred product in Northern California or California in general? I tried searching the map but had very little data. Thanks in advance -DF

@Timberstar hello there

4:20 PM

How much is it?

I need several hundred pounds of shredded plastic of various grades/types

@d effe have you tried at the bazar? You might find someone close to you. https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=139

Shredded HDPE Plastic

Shredded HDPE plastic for craft projects

thanks for accpected

6:15 PM

I am form Vietnam, sorry my poor English

I’m actually looking for industry wholesalers of shredded plastic -looking to eventually buy metric tons

Have you considered going to a manufacturer and asking them? Anyone who produces large quantities of plastic products should have a good bit of waste from starting their machines. If you are just looking for virgin plastic, this place probably isn't the right place to ask

@Timberstar : tensorflow & friends applied to the 5 point clamp might make no sense, effort wise though. you can ship 5 different units in the time you spent adopting it

(edited)

9:44 PM

but that's just me, usually more interested to make a good $$, very welcome to run good projects

@Deleted User the size i'm looking at you really have to get it right first time. if there's another way eg copying an existing mechanism, that might be ok, but the amount of machining that goes into these things represents a big investment

10:09 PM

there may be existing code which can be copypastad and adapted (edited)

mh, let me check again

i think representing combinations of link lengths as higher order numbers sound like the most efficient way to do it

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10:11 PM

that guy siraj coded an automatic trading bot in 45 lines

sure, if you do this all day long, with a decade+ in the bag about

10:14 PM

damn, I needed 1000+ last time, and it lost

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yea he doesnt say how much it actually makes...

depends what you're using (paid services), the service I had from a friend was superior, but we didn't throw much at it, was just for some after markets. anyway, I still think this could be broken down to shop math like simplicity

yes the allgerbraic equation for the forces can be broken down and represented graphicly to aid design, but to do optimization it needs to be a genetic algorithm, would take years to do longhand

10:20 PM

still trying to confirm that basic equation btw (edited)

mh, we need a pp@next channel, the lurkers get mad at us again

10:21 PM

can you carry this together into a md doc ? i've got very little time til august (edited)

yes im working on that

cool, seeya there

10:21 PM

bed time

this is a background project

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10:22 PM

cool 'night

Hii my nama is Rafi, Im from indonesia, nice to meet you

6:36 AM

#deleted-channel

Hello rafi

This first.. to recycle plastic..so sorry if I ask a lot

We are happy to help

is anyone based in bristol in the uk?

1:53 PM

Looking to join someone's team and help xxx

#deleted-channel I think this channel is more focused

Thanks xxx

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Hey guys, does anyone know which program I need to open the cad files? Are there any dwg drawings too?

I have this extension on my desktop called "the unarchiver"

4:28 PM

But use win zip if you can

Привіт, хтось може скинути чертєжи для створення щредеру першого типу?

@Maris : there's some chaos about, v4: Solidworks2019 (missing parts), v3: Fusion360 whereby there are also step files (messed up) for v4.

4:53 PM

we started fixing the files if you need help ...

4:58 PM

Hey people still discussing hydroponic? I have been researching that lately, I'm trying to find sources of nutrients, I heard urine get everything but I wonder how much of that need pre processing, like extracting the N from ammonia

@neoshaman What do you need to know? I have read a bit about it. For hydroponics, you would ideally add a fertilizer from someone like GHE, as it has everything that the plants need. You need to give it different fertilizer based on what you are growing, and whether it is vegetative growth (leafy greens and so on), fruiting plants, stages of the plants and so on. As you are looking into urine, something like aquaponics would likely interest you

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Streaming to test our setup and scenes, working on the bench prepping a brickmold. https://m.twitch.tv/citsciworkshop (edited)

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I mostly interested in recycling urine to create fertilizer

12:31 AM

Ie being self sufficient

@Maris : there's some chaos about, v4: Solidworks2019 (missing parts), v3: Fusion360 whereby there are also step files (messed up) for v4.

@Deleted User what parts are missing from the V4 shredder if any? We are about to start assembly, so would be good to know any issue up front.

For the shredder: , in Solidworks you have in the File open dialog "References", click it when you have the assembly file selected. Mostly washers, ... small time stuff.

9:09 AM

here´s a new version with most back in : https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/products/shredder_v4.1s/cad_cleaned, still incomplete. (edited)

9:11 AM

and as said drawing source files as missing as well.

Yeah noticed a few drawings missing. Cheers.

https://www.agrobot.com/

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Agrobot is an innovative generation of robotic strawberry harvesters to pick your fresh produce.

Sweet.

not great to have huge monoculture fields like that though, would be good if they can adapt it for mixed crops

Taking away jobs too.

we have a problem in the uk with that though, they pay so little that not enough people will do it

1:32 PM

its hard work and bad conditions

Opposite situation here in Japan.

1:33 PM

Population is descending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tiqNlrUsHE

The Infographics Show

Japan's Population Problem

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200122080500.htm

Urine fertilizer: 'Aging' effectively protects against transfer of ...

Recycled and aged human urine can be used as a fertilizer with low risks of transferring antibiotic resistant DNA to the environment, according to new research.

Hello it's Quentin from Lyon, France ! A pleasure to join this creative mouvement.

Live again today! Cutting shredder pro parts on our fiber laser. https://www.twitch.tv/citsciworkshop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYrl07crIHg&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=wt5PXg-LjyOJGMb6%3A6

Dave Hakkens Community

Precious Plastic build in Mauritius

10:23 AM

New vid guys

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Wow 2 weeks... Took me more than 8 months and I didn't build much...

@Frederik C (ZA) : still alive, found a service,... ?

5:23 PM

I start missing the black humor of yours here ...

It will probably get darker and less funny. A service is largely irrelevant. South Africans pretty much hate each other. The civil war didn't end. It was just on "pause" for 30 years. The government is temporarily bribing the population with "stimulus." It won't last long. The Rulers won't allow any meaningful upliftment without a fight, though. Largely depends on what happens in Murica.

'South Africans pretty much hate each other' : heard the same about the french, I guess that's why I have so many friends there, lol | but hey, my wife escaped from such place :-)

@Frederik C (ZA) great to hear non-the-less that they the didn't kidnap you, yet

6:15 PM

SA, another misantropía ? I should come for holidays

As the Super Powers begin to scramble, to maintain control of their most important colonies, while simultaneously suppressing their own populations, we will eventually find out who really owns us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ylKMmvGuU from my favouite film of all time ❤️ (edited)

Joel Tena

"Land and Freedom" - La Internacional (w/subs)

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we will eventually find out who really owns us Well, we know who the billionaire puppets are. That's not difficult. But it's not always clear who pulls their strings. And I say "we," but frankly, I doubt I'll make it through this. And I'm not sure if the youth who survive will be able to figure it out. They look like morons to me. I could be wrong.

Project 'Precious Humanity' (???) keeps coming back

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We had some great revolutionary leaders, but they were all killed and written out of history. After years of trying to study the topic, I only managed to scratch the surface, because so little was formally documented. The youth won't have a snowball's chance in hell of learning about it, when the older generation is dead. Assuming they would want to, in the first place. Human history is basically impossible to explain, without understanding that lackeys and cowards generally have higher survival rates that people who refuse to take shit.

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@Frederik C (ZA) great to hear non-the-less that they the didn't kidnap you, yet

@Deleted User Hi friend . Scatter my speculation about your country. Every time when fresh water flowed somewhere else, I thought about African guys, women, children, people in general. You have much less fresh water than ours. And with us it is spent simply wastefully. Therefore, mentally we are with you. And I can say that there are many Russians whom I know. They think the same way. I hope soon we will not just think.

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throwing this here in for no other reason than uplifting

that's a friend's place, he bought the entire mountains for 200k and restored the house and has fresh water going though, drinkable - so drinkable that companies down the river put it in bottles and sell it. I sometimes wonder what these wonderful creatures think about us

Much to learn.

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Found some plastic toys.

12:30 AM

I don't have a shredder for them.

12:30 AM

So I'm probably going to try to bust it to pieces with a hammer.

12:30 AM

Start out really small.

Hey Guys it's Bishnu I am sorry as I m new to Discord and don't know much about it. I m from Nepal and I live in it's heart the capital Kathmandu. I have always been facinated by plastic while most of people think it's curse and still use it. I belive it's the most awesome thing on this planets. If we can form a Chain we surely can do a lot. I am currently working on this awesome project in my graduate level where me and my friends are making business plan that we plan to implement for recycling PET waste and get it back to factories to make PET products and bottles itself. I don't have experience in technical part and look forward for help from the family

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@Bishnu Khetan Hello, nice to meet you here. I am sorry to tell you this, Precious Plastic machine can not recycle PET. Maybe in the future. Do the factory accept other plastic types?

Yes it does from HDPE, PP, LDPE specially @Lazy_Turtle

HDPE and PP works with PP machines!

7:16 AM

So there is a factory near you? (edited)

Ok thanks for the info. In Nepal most plastic goes illegally to India as per many studies which is recycled and send back at lot higher rates. A lot goes in landfills, water resources etc.

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Did you talk to the factory's owner or somebody like that?

7:20 AM

What does the factory need?

I have talked to a factory which uses PET, PP and HDPE but collecting information in Nepal is very difficult from factories (edited)

Does the factory need flakes?

It commonly uses granules

So... Shredder?

7:24 AM

There is a basic one and a pro one...plus some hacks. What do you need?

7:24 AM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsqLJNyrVss&t=140s

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

I do have collection houses in connection(scrap centres as they call here in Kathmandu) I wanted to know about plastic separtion and it's further processing as well as waste water treatment (edited)

Here is a video

7:27 AM

Precious Plastic - learn about plastic

Thanks I also want to know how we can treat and clean plastic flakes and treat the waste water

Hold on

7:29 AM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-washing-machine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRXNDFP7RtE

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

7:29 AM

boom

7:30 AM

Still developing though

Thanks @Ryoma-RecycleNaga and do we have plans on water treatment too (waste water)

I think that's kind of outside PP

7:36 AM

wait

7:37 AM

I think the washing machine includes filter

7:40 AM

I think there is.

7:40 AM

Filters by sand

7:42 AM

See

Smoked out Kathmandu #storyhopper

Yes I have watched this video of Dave (Precious Plastics) been following the channel for quite time

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Is the city still busy?

Yes Kathmandu is really busy but due to COVID19 it's super quiet and calm (edited)

*quiet

8:01 AM

Good to know

Oh sry yes. And what about your place?

8:02 AM

I saw in your past message that your from Japan

I live in Tokyo

Ok @Ryoma-RecycleNaga

So your business model would be a little different from most of us

8:14 AM

We usually run a business within the Precious Plastic Universe

8:14 AM

Do you have enough

?

I plan to collect it from MNC's and banks. If it come to personally funding the project it would be No, I don't have.

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@Deleted User are there any files I could open with autocad or illustrator? These are the only programs I have

@Maris for what? If you want I can unzip and send it to you

11:53 AM

I don't know if that's possible tho

@Maris : you can open only the dxf laser files. There are also 'step' (CAD) files which you could read in Autocad but evtl. you have to convert them first.

11:55 AM

yeah, what you wanna do ?

I have 45 min of math zoom bye

@Frederik C (ZA) : didn't want to steal you the show

go ahead

@Deleted User that's a friend's place, he bought the entire mountains for 200k We had access to a multi-generational farm that we could potentially have used to try some subsistence farming during the economic collapse. But my idiot cousin (already living like a millionaire) lost the farm in his divorce settlement. Moron. (edited)

@Frederik C (ZA) evtl. you can do this as group, I've seen this here often, but worked only between 'friends'; apparently as soon open it to 'volunteers', things go sideway and the 'punks' may take over

I'm planning a building for a plastic recycle station in Ghana, it'll be a mix workshop space, so I'm trying to figure out how much space you need for different areas like collecting, washing, sorting, shredding etc... For architectural drawings it would be helpfull to have the drawings of the machines (mainly front/side views) at one point

@Frederik C (ZA) : here's another great example, they bought an old factory terrain, rebuilt around 30 flats, everyone pays 200e/m and owns his flat there. just farming seems often very difficult or impossible to feed 40+ people

12:02 PM

https://calafou.org/en/contentpaso-del-tiempo

@Deleted User @Maris needs a floor plan (edited)

12:02 PM

Do you have it?

@Lazy_Turtle : you're busy with getting rich by learning math right now

useless.

Yea I redraw the floorplan of the container already

anyway see you later

math is everywhere, no math , no success

12:04 PM

@Maris : let me check and come back this evening

Do you know how big is a mix workspace in total is?

12:06 PM

@Deleted User thank you

I have time

12:08 PM

Floorplan-Generator-Mix.pdf

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12:08 PM

boom bye

no you don't :-) @Maris depends how you build the machines, the PP original is kinda oversized, you can do all in a 1/4th of the space.

and how much would that be?

12:11 PM

would there be anyone up for a call today?

Well PP original is what you see in the video

Ive seen the videos of the individual spaces which are mainly 4X6m if I remember right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHeyKUcYFto

This is a mixed workspace to experiment with plastic recycling

12:13 PM

yes this one

12:13 PM

bye

@Lazy_Turtle thank you

@Deleted User Well, there's another two family farms. Just a "slight" problem: They're fucking Nazis. We have lots of empty buildings in the city. The trouble is, the City Council are not allowed to help the poor. Because they don't work for the voters. They work for the billionaires.

Bad cycle

@Maris , here an example of how small and portable it can be :

Someone has a shredder hack too

12:40 PM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-the-plstico-fantstico-recycling-bicycle-shredder

Precious Plastic Community Machines

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

12:41 PM

https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/community.html These are the smallest ones I have seen so far in a workspace

Precious Plastic Community Machines are made from people in our global community. Bike shredders, on wheels, foldable, mobile and much more.

that's micro manufacturing on wheels

It's the most portable one

12:43 PM

still on zoom

12:43 PM

2 min

@Frederik C (ZA) , considered to leave the country ? I left Germany for similar reasons ...

@Lazy_Turtle how does zoom work?

Zoom: Your webcam is activated without your permission, and sends the audio and video to someone, that you might or might not know, by way of a server somewhere in China.

will explain after it's done

12:48 PM

Yes it's very risky

Hahaha alright

It's boom

12:49 PM

This is the drawing I made

12:49 PM

the "B" is Barela-round-Precious font

12:50 PM

VarelaRoundPrecious-Bold.ttf

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It's slightly different lol

@Deleted User Maybe if I didn't have a neurological disability. But since I do... not many options. Besides, where does one go to escape Racism, and Neo-Liberal hegemony? It seems Mars or Antarctica are the only options. A few hundred years ago, Europeans ran away to a new place to escape the destruction and oppression of Europe's Aristocracy. It's called the United States of America. And it's a total shithole.

1:02 PM

Also, let's continue in DM before we piss off any snowflakes from across the Atlantic.

:-))) That's how I like you - straight to the point. But yeah, let's have some mercy with the innocent youth here.

I'm fine lol

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@Deleted User Maybe if I didn't have a neurological disability. But since I do... not many options. Besides, where does one go to escape Racism, and Neo-Liberal hegemony? It seems Mars or Antarctica are the only options. A few hundred years ago, Europeans ran away to a new place to escape the destruction and oppression of Europe's Aristocracy. It's called the United States of America. And it's a total shithole.

@Frederik C (ZA) Earth is a jail

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Was actually wondering to make a page just for the next generation, 'the world, in 15 minutes', just facts, zeitgeist style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVMZxH1TIIQ

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

Why Earth Is A Prison and How To Escape It

1:43 PM

It's one way of thinking

1:43 PM

I'm having fun in prison

Well, Assange is a perfect example. An Australian, who partnered with Ecuadorians... And was sold out by Swedes to be captured by Britons... so that a bunch of rich Americans can kill him. So, you tell me... where is "safe?"

Define safe

1:45 PM

"Free from harm or risk" -Merriam Webster

1:46 PM

So if there are no harm or risk "safe" does not exist? (edited)

good point, even though, mother earth is waiting for'ya guys; shaking us off like flies some day

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Do you know "5 min before" theory?

1:56 PM

https://prezi.com/wb_m5nhmrklj/russells-five-minute-hypothesis/

Russell's Five Minute Hypothesis

"There is no logical impossibility in the hypothesis that the world sprang into being five minutes ago, exactly as it then was, with a population that "remembered" a wholly unreal past. There is no logically necessary connection between events at different times; therefore

Oh, okay. I remembered the concept as "Last Tuesdayism." The idea that you can't technically prove that the Universe wasn't created last Tuesday. You can only infer that it wasn't, based on scientific observation and inductive reasoning.

I just like thinking about these stuff

yeah, I love that stuff; imagine time stopped for some years and you're the only one who can move; heck of a fun

Can you move objects?

without time? no - more of a fun ride. Perry Rhodan and others filled some books with that

2:16 PM

still today, nobody came up with an explanation what time really is; https://www.wired.com/2010/02/what-is-time/

@Deleted User How do u eat

2:19 PM

lol

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2:19 PM

Hey this is a presentation I made in a science project about time

2:20 PM

Click play

2:21 PM

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1DF3LBYDay0l_L86Z5bYRGwA0TJoTLHfjfLxDOS2liLU/edit?usp=sharing

Science talk

In your google calendar, you should see an event, and the time the event is happening. It is hard to live these days without time. This question might seem easy, but it is harder than you think! Does time exist? You might think yes, of course it does, but the answer is not fou...

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2:21 PM

Looks messy, but you will realise...

found this recently, nice to look at https://i.pinimg.com/originals/27/8f/5c/278f5c35cb59526280b31b51588e5c06.png (edited)

Show off.

hey i never claimed i understand any of it! sadly this poster was not on the wall at my school and it took another 25 years to find

3:06 PM

or for it to find me

3:07 PM

Just like that

im trying to learn about a bit about higher maths for a mechanical problem im interested in (edited)

I'm gonna have trouble sleeping today

3:08 PM

I mean tommorow

3:09 PM

lol

@Lazy_Turtle without time, it doesnt matter

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I have post-graduate Mathematicians in my family. I've learned to curb my enthusiasm about their mental abilities.

Alright

3:11 PM

.

3:12 PM

@Lazy_Turtle without time, it doesnt matter

@Timberstar I will have troubles sleeping thinking about time

"Everything is a copy, of a copy, of a copy..."

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@Frederik C (ZA) How about the original?

3:13 PM

Not everything

3:13 PM

Everything except one

its a quote from that film

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Can't copy nothing

3:17 PM

Infinite loop is interesting, but can be scary

Kurt Gödel’s work is quite interesting if you are all into weird mathematics.

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his theory is incomplete though...

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3:41 PM

its true though that at some level we have to appeal to faith..

3:45 PM

the relationship between mathematics and philosophy is the crux of the human condition

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3:46 PM

i love the conceptual side of maths but never really got to grips with the inner workings

3:46 PM

now i want to get my head round it in the context of machine learning

this is interesting: https://runwayml.com/

RunwayML | Machine learning for creators.

The Swiss Army knife of machine learning

It's going to crash the film industry, even after the record losses of C19. Because you will be able to describe a movie scene in words, or with single drawings, and the program will create the scene. No need to shoot anything. Frame-rendering can be done on distributed platforms. (edited)

awesome! infinite remixes of old films too

There are already some low resolution proofs of concept. Technology-wise, it's probably another 10 or 20 years away from being doable. (edited)

even that app is far more than i need, i just wanna make a little app with matplotlib

4:18 PM

have to learn some python first tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGyfmzuR4d4

Python Programmer

Machine Learning is Just Mathematics! Free Machine Learning Resources

It would be interesting to see what "semantic" connections the machine will be capable of making between words and images. Because there is ultimately a bit of a "Chinese Room" situation, in that the machine obviously can't understand what it is producing. Currently, even spontaneously generated video, (based on a "seed" photo) has to come from many hours of image training in its neural network. Similar to how deepfakes work. It needs to "see" thousands of trees to know what "tree" means, and it needs to "see" thousands of landscapes to know where trees are supposed to go in a scene.

4:42 PM

Things will probably get very freaky in the future.

things are freaky already. the whole thing about machine learning is that it doesn't ever need to 'understand' to produce extremely accurate outcomes

Well, there was supposedly a case of an image recognition AI that mistook a husky for a wolf. And when the engineers queried the system to indicate where the relevant data points were, it was the snow in the background. So, the AI "logic": Wolf is often surrounded by snow. Thing that looks like a wolf is surrounded by snow. Thing that looks like wolf is a wolf.

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Just because it is nice

: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlxOEaKJHI8

Love Nature

Nanny Dog Babysits Hyena, Cheetahs & Baboons | Oddest Animal Friend...

The Kurzgesagt video led me to this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS1ibDImAYU But nowhere in the video do they mention what it's actually called. It's called the Kessler Syndrome. And it just goes to show that even rocket scientists can't clean up after themselves. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

Kessler syndrome

The Kessler syndrome (also called the Kessler effect, collisional cascading, or ablation cascade), proposed by NASA scientist Donald J. Kessler in 1978, is a theoretical scenario in which the density of objects in low Earth orbit (LEO) due to space pollution is high enough tha...

Hello Everyone! I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask: I am working on making an extruder but I am very driven to recycle PET into polyester. I have seen many people simply shred and wash the PET bottles then put in filament extruder. Does anyone know if this is safe or any steps that can be taken to remove the contaminants in PET or minimize toxins? Thank you!

@Frederik C (ZA) loved that first one, great ones in the same series about the rise of the robots, and universal basic income (edited)

Hi everyone, does anyone know on which days the HQ is open? On the first post about the big sale they said from Monday to Friday, and on the second one Monday to Saturday!?

Re: PET No idea about mitigating any effects of the chemical content. I doubt there can be any mechanical way to do that. I was going to further research this, in the Before Times, before the Apocalypse. https://www.thepolyflossfactory.com/ Re: HQ My understanding was that they were open by appointment only and would be shut down on May 1st. The Duthcies will be around later. We're in the same timezone.

Precious Plastic Vestdijk 29c 5611 CA Eindhoven, the Netherlands If you need

8:19 AM

From the academy: Properties: lightweight, impact resistant, rigid/semi-rigid Pros: strong and stiff, water and oxide barrier, good electrical properties Cons: high mold shrinkage, heat degradation, harmful fumes Safety: Medium Warning

️ harmful fumes during processing, some research suggesting harmful materials seeping through long term use Common uses: blow molded bottles (water bottles, soda/juice bottles), wrapping, film, electrical fittings Best ways to use with PP machines: we're working on that!

@Frederik C (ZA) thank you for answering! Yeah it's a bit wierd because in the video and the first post they say that they are indeed open only by appointment, but then in their last post about it they say "Come drop by if you’re able! We are open 11-17 Monday-Saturday" which to me reads as a walk in concept

8:20 AM

And as that post was posted on this Monday you'd expect them still to be open even though it's the 2nd of may already

8:21 AM

But anyone here to confirm this?

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I don't know who is staffing the HQ (or what's left of it.) It's usually Matia, Kat and Dave. Dave is usually on Discord late evening in UTC+2.

@Frederik C (ZA) is there a way of contacting them directly? I wanted to pick up the big oven

You can send a message if neccesary

8:34 AM

https://preciousplastic.com/contact.html

contact

8:34 AM

Not the best way tho

Yeah already did that

, was hoping for a more direct method

I don't know if you can go more direct than emails

8:35 AM

They are pretty busy

8:36 AM

Mention dave?

Hello, @🤙v4-team See above. Apparently Dave missed an appointment to sell some HQ equipment. Maybe he's on your Slack group, or something? Thanks.

Hi, not sure I'm in the right place, I'd to know if there a way to get in touch with Johe, the French guy who did the video instruction for mold making?

Heya! Thanks @Frederik C (ZA) and @Lazy_Turtle for helping out, all pretty busy here indeed! @bryan_lesage (and anyone interested): Yep, we are "open" for people to drop by and have a look Mon-Sat 11am-5pm! (If you are coming for something specific, it's probably best to get in touch before - via our marktplaats or bazar account and reserve it)

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@Mickaël 2nd hand this is Johé's website: https://johebruneau.com

johebruneau

Johé Bruneau

Objets - Décors - Accessoires - Revalorisation / Upcycling - Factices - Restaurations -

@Kat thanks a lot!

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Make a gif

1:26 PM

lol

2:41 PM

2:42 PM

from #deleted-channel , how about automated Precious Plastic?

2:42 PM

Just an idea

You've missed some discussions on that. Pros and cons. Mostly cons. Actually building it, is less than half of the problem. I'm guessing the companies that have reverse vending machines, operate the system at a financial loss, purely for green washing PR purposes. Basically like glorified advertising for soda. They get the money back with increased "guilt free" sales. Or not. I don't know. The business model just doesn't make sense, when you really think about it.

Why not？

4:01 PM

Plastic->Vending machine->Functional objects

4:01 PM

It's not free btw

4:02 PM

This will spread Precious Plastic to the world! Maybe. I have no business knowledge

4:04 PM

By the way I am researching Vending machines as a business because it might be useful in the future

4:05 PM

No initial investments, only electricity fees.

Vending machines are very simple devices. They don't need much maintenance. However, the machine you're suggesting, does. It will also need constant online access, because it will need sophisticated AI. We've already discussed that.

I think it's worth investing

4:14 PM

The machine itself might be financially unstable

4:14 PM

How about the Precious Plastic itself?

4:15 PM

Advertising?

4:15 PM

It's like another role in the universe

4:15 PM

"Vending machine owner"

4:16 PM

And the owner can take care?

4:18 PM

Maintenance: solved?

hey fellows!

4:33 PM

question: the starterkit I downloaded contains a BOM (for the shredder pro) with links to a netherlands laser cutter company. Does anyone have links for USA companies? Any companies with shredder-pro pieces already ready to ship?

@Deleted User I guess after this situation (corona) is over

hard to say, from what we see, there might be a break for 1-2 years, this will run many into bankruptcy. Funds are also heavily affected and it´s pretty hard to make new investments. Here´s the current prototype for a small vending machine module : https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/blob/master/products/asterix/index.markdown Instead of making a all-in-one machine, you actually want one module per task, one for shredding, one for grinding, washing, .... much like PP´s idea, just more robust and compliance with regulations, etc... We planned so far as next the grinding and print module. Might take until the end of the year.

@chewmanfoo might try the #🍔north-america for that

@chewmanfoo https://www.ponoko.com/

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@Lazy_Turtle : he wants the imperial version as well

4:47 PM

doesn´t exist, yet.

https://www.emachineshop.com/laser-cutting/

Oleg

Laser Cutting Service | Custom Laser Cutting | eMachineShop

eMachineShop offers a cost-effective cutting solution whether you need a single part, batch of prototypes, or a production order. 50+ Materials. FREE Shipping in the USA. 100% Quality Guaranteed.

4:47 PM

ok

imperial = different sizes for everything, also lathes, milling machine operate on different scales, that´s why they never managed to adopt to metric. there´s a huge crowd on Facebook machinist groups having fun on this, on a daily base.

4:51 PM

@Lazy_Turtle : making a vending shredder machine alone is near one year development, and 15k+ investment. making it simple turns out as extreme difficult.

Vending shredder does not make sense

4:51 PM

Who will buy flakes?

4:52 PM

I was thinking shredder plus extrusion plus mold

4:52 PM

Which is... difficult

yeah, we work on bottle in -> flakes, object or reward out. then you put the flakes into the next module.

"Next module" So there are two modules?

buy flakes: no worry, there is an industry for that

I am confused

2 or 3 even, grind, print, inject, as you like

A vending machine for public

4:54 PM

for "members"

exactly

And there are three processes

ideally it´s like a laundry

I get it now

yeah, first installments are in schools, fun stuff

Will that be $ly stable?

4:56 PM

I was thinking more all-in-one machine

4:57 PM

Put plastic, insert money, get recycled objects

good question, we just do the development, all in one is very unpractical in many ways.

4:57 PM

besides, it might get too big

This is what I hope

4:59 PM

What's inside?

yeah, have seen that - and that´s a giant machine

Can improve?

5:01 PM

I think this is one step beyond

5:01 PM

So I guess self-service recycling system might work

5:02 PM

Simplified versions

you´re awesome, I think some guys tried exactly that (worked somehow) but never heard back from them.

5:09 PM

after shredding you might want to wash the flakes first as next

I just want to point out that Star Trek was not a documentary, in case there's some confusion.

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5:13 PM

V2

holy moly, I told'ya, the little sh** is taking over one day

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I can only give ideas. Can't build them

missing module : drying module, very important

Oopsie

another module : metal separation (magnets)

5:15 PM

build the house around just

V3

@Lazy_Turtle also you forgot the IoT connection for the PP cryptocurrency reward

well, now just the 'store' and 'feed' module, that might work indeed

ok v4 coming soon

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that's the spririt (edited)

5:19 PM

i lol'ed my pents wet by now

5:19 PM

respect, we need guys like this

This is more fun than those games

yeah, was thinking to force all these lurkers here to come up at least with one drawing/howto/idea each day

https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/create-cryptocurrency-using-python/

How to Create Your Own Cryptocurrency Using Python

With the current rise of cryptocurrencies, blockchain is creating a buzz in the technology world. What if the freeCodeCamp could also enter this craze and create its own digital currency?

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5:23 PM

V4

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Already 0:23 pm

5:23 PM

bye

good work man, you deserve your sleep now !

Earned 32 xp

5:25 PM

goodnight young jedi

Hi Guy, thank you very much everyone who helped at the HQ!! We got it home

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9:52 PM

Now we somehow gotta move it inside

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-1 in the PP´s R&D´s portfolio (edited)

-100

10:21 PM

Here´s the the CAD of @jasonknight´s legendary sheetpress oven: https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/projects/SheetPressOven/cad (edited)

@Timberstar Is cryptocurrency safe?

Do you have in set up in India to see a local guidance?

@Sunil Maybe try to find help here: #🍚india

Is cryptocurrency safe? No currency is entirely safe — crypto or otherwise. The relative "safety" of crypto depends on governments' ability to shut it down. And with that the architecture of the blockchain being used. If it's widely distributed enough, shutting it down is as difficult or easy as wholesale internet censorship. But there are environmental concerns as well, in terms of running servers 24/7. But we're doing that anyway. Otherwise: No Discord, no YouTube, among many other things...

Yes indeed. I have found Precious Plastic concept amazing and would like to introduce in India at local community level. I have gone through various material available on your website. First I believe I need to educate people and make them aware about our concept and purpose behind it. We also need to establish small infrastructure to showcase concepts, equipment, process etc., Following We can encourage others to go for it at community level. How Precious Plastic community can assist us and way forward from here? Is there any step by step guidance available?

8:25 AM

I believe cryptocurrency mining consumes lots of energy?

@Sunil Find your closest community point. Maybe they can help set up a regional one, suited to your needs (in terms of language and such.)

8:34 AM

Also maybe machine use and building training workshops, etc.

I believe cryptocurrency mining consumes lots of energy? That can be mitigated by using renewable energy and shutting down servers for several hours a day, when there's no sunlight or an alternative source or storage system. Also, a cryptocurrency doesn't necessarily have to be "mined." That's just a way to incentivize the expansion of private networks. If a government owns a cryptocurrency, "mining" would be unnecessary. But governments will never support an auditable money supply. It completely screws with their power structure.

8:48 AM

If the Federal Reserve was auditable and America didn't have nuclear weapons and 800+ military bases around the World, the US Dollar would be worth less than toilet paper.

What's more safe?

9:13 AM

What are the pros and cons

What's more safe? Well, like you said before: Define "safe." It's a short but complicated question.

In this case it's comparing

9:38 AM

Would you rather use cryptocurrency or normal?

9:39 AM

For me I like real things

it can be backed up by real things, not for everything but p2p economy : https://fair-coin.org/en

faircoin

the energy saving blockchain economy

9:45 AM

we started the discussion about plastic currency in the forum

Hybrid?

kindof, yes

I personally like to keep things simple

9:46 AM

But I am interested

10 billion people isn´t simple I am afraid

I had an idea of green currency

9:47 AM

but never went deeper

faircoin has something for you there, I can clone it for you, it´s friends project, this was on the table a few times already for PP

currency or plastic currency

9:48 AM

I am typing on a phone btw

9:49 AM

PP currency would make more sense for me

9:50 AM

Universe

9:56 AM

Plastic currency would be too big

9:56 AM

or wide

Yeah, I picked a bad time for this. I need to suit up and go face the zombies outside to get my prescription pills.

No time to chat. I'll try to put it in another way: You can stockpile the World's most "valuable" resource or most "valuable" currency, but if you don't invest it into the orbital infrastructure and astronomical equipment that you need to detect and deflect a planet-killing asteroid / comet headed for Earth, then how did your investment "save" you? That kind of thing.

We love to get philosophical lol

Separating money and Precious Plastic. I think we need PP currency

11:24 AM

What do you guys think?

11:25 AM

Not easy, but in the future...

@Lazy_Turtle PP crypto coin has been talked about for a while, im keen on the idea

Do you have a link for the discussion?

lots of companies have introduced their own coins for internal use, and as an alternative to shares

I'd be happy to get through some basics first : https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/precious-plastic-app-2/

I already made an app

but you can forget about this kind efforts, it's going to be hidden, deleted, etc.. ....

My app sucks, but it is an app

@Lazy_Turtle i can't find it but the post was called 'far out idea'

It's something future

11:31 AM

We should make a proper document on improvements we need or want

unstoppable

On Google Docs?

yeah why not, but be warned, PP central won't tolerate anything which isn't from them, including crucial updates, important projects, name it. You have to build this outside of PP with no support, except some more committed community members. (edited)

(oﾟﾛﾟ)ﾉ‥‥…━━━━━☆)`νﾟ)･;'.､

11:34 AM

Let's just make a doc for now

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@Lazy_Turtle maybe you can start a Github project?

I personally like Google Docs

11:36 AM

Not familiar with Github

here are again the corner stones of a good PP app : 1. personalized news feed 2. latest ideas/projects/updates 3. scan products, add plastic type -> database | QR/Bar/Code,... 4. upload random pictures into global media feed 5. post an issue 6. find community members, map, etc.. 7. chat room, voice / video

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w0llo6ClhzmIWgL_sHBcGNB1srk6erm5_ifz5QAztcY/edit?usp=sharing

Project proposal

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8. add service provider to database 9. quick how to on the go

11:38 AM

10. reward / point system

11:39 AM

there comes and goes "PP Next"

Can you put it on the doc?

yeah, this evening, still have to work on v3 & v4 fixes today

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What did you mean by QR codes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code

QR code

QR code (abbreviated from Quick Response code) is the trademark for a type of matrix barcode (or two-dimensional barcode) first designed in 1994 for the automotive industry in Japan. A barcode is a machine-readable optical label that contains information about the item to whic...

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11:48 AM

No

11:48 AM

here are again the corner stones of a good PP app : 1. personalized news feed 2. latest ideas/projects/updates 3. scan products, add plastic type -> database | QR/Bar/Code,... 4. upload random pictures into global media feed 5. post an issue 6. find community members, map, etc.. 7. chat room, voice / video

@Deleted User Numero tres

11:48 AM

trés

I have industrial grade scanner for mobile apps

scans nearly anything

11:49 AM

bar codes as well

for what?

11:49 AM

to scan what?

qr codes direct the device to a url

identify products into a database -> plastic type

so you can put anything you want there

Nice

11:49 AM

I know about QR codes but just wanted to know the use of it

helps us to spot top polluters, at some day this might be actionable (edited)

"Database" I like this word

lot's of leg work is done on my end

Other features other than Apps?

11:54 AM

and Currency?

currency is a little vague and has some requirements we can't provide yet; I think a reward, point system might be a good start first

OK

also that is kinda done; there is substantial math behind, something we can borrow from games and existing platforms

ok

11:56 AM

Any other features?

hang on

11:57 AM

weekly podcasts from groups, teams should be supported as well, goes as audio / video stream, could be also live workshops.

11:58 AM

https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/the-great-precious-plastic-podcast/

You can edit the doc

you have to motivate folks a little first

I don't like extra process

yeah, i checkin this evening

ok

paid training courses are also a key in PP. there is quite some crowd who'd take this as machine after sales service

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b81Ib_oYbFk

howCode

Simple Blockchain in Python WITH MINING!

"Paid" Reward system right?

well, this needs to be figured, but yeah

ok:)

unbelievable, @Lazy_Turtle is gonna make us rich one day

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Just like the community point... we can have Precious Plastic instructor?

12:02 PM

Better than GAMES

basically, you can borrow concepts from 'skillshare', works appearently

oh I know that

@Lazy_Turtle this is the real game

I like it

just for reference, companies pay up to 1000e for a training's day, it has to be good, it can take many months to prepare such course (edited)

Voting system?

12:04 PM

How about that

haha, for PP stakeholders ? keep dreaming, community and eco system first

12:05 PM

but yeah, add it

I will just add anything

Please send your email(DM) to me to get access to google docs. Otherwise you will be anonymous

done, honestly I don't know I should smile or cry .. (edited)

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I survived (potentially), but it turns out my FFP2 mask sucks. I can't feel a gap when I'm standing still, but it definitely doesn't seal properly on my face. I can smell my hand sanitizer inside the mask. Damn.

I'll try a modification. Also got some cloth masks today. If the mask is useless, I might as well wear one that's more comfortable. I'll try to get a 3D-printed one with a rubberized seal. Also, no pills in stock. (It's not even imported.) S&%t, f$%k, f$%k f$%k, sh&%t!!!

So, yeah, my brain will slowly turn into molasses, now. Great. On the upside: The corner shop is open again. I can't go inside and have to order and pickup groceries through the window, which is stupid, but better than nothing. And I can do it without the awful mask. No more grocery store death-traps for me, thanks very much.

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Did anybody build bricks from plastic? And have experience on it?

@Rocio : which aspect you want to know about ?

building regulations about flames (additives), we have some info about
'mass' production / automation
extrusion quality
moulds
production : fumes / safety
toxics - living inside walls made from petrol chemistry is a pretty bad idea, folks have even problems with certain concretes

just to name a few

(edited)

5:20 PM

@Frederik C (ZA) , you convinced me to take finally off today, thanks - retreat in progress

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/build-brick-structures

i read already this, but still have questions

shoot just

This is the best place to do that

main idea to check the possibility to build homes.I know idea is incipient, and i want to fnd anydocumentation which could help

5:26 PM

things about mechanical reistance

5:26 PM

fire

5:26 PM

how toxic is during people ar eliving there

5:26 PM

are living*

I mean I already knew that you are gonna ask that

what about if the house caught fire? Thereare soem aditieves that make it to not caught fire?

well, there are some projects which did that, but still, there is no peer reviewed studies about it's health aspects, I think qw repeat this now the 200th times : but here again : I won't let my pets sleep in there, no matter the mix (edited)

Yeah that's the main problem

what are the big issues with this kind of bricks?

5:28 PM

the toxic issue?

@Deleted User even clean hdpe? (edited)

@Rocio : yes, fire is the next problem, you need to add additives which render the plastic un-recyclable. (edited)

5:29 PM

@Timberstar : not sure, it's flammable, no ?

@Rocio Just asking, no offense but... In terms of laws or safety

looks like somebody, us should compile a dossier on this, in the last 2 years I've seen hundreds of discussions going nowhere, some managed to put poor folks into those walls

@Lazy_Turtle i don't know very much about that relegation. But about resistace i think could be even more that normal brick? I saw especially the PET have strong resistance

@Deleted User yeah but i think chemical release is considered low right? yea dont want any pets burning tho

5:32 PM

i think the product as it is works really well, as a way to divide up large interior spaces

I don't know, I can only speak for the professional clients I've asked during sheetpress sales, always same story : additives or no build regulation compliance

Well guys... imagine building a plastic tent in your balcony

not for serious construction

Is it like that or no

a shed may be, yeah (edited)

about burning, not sure if the problem is bout to caught fire, but about the smoke. Also the wood is burning too, right?

good question, i think it's classified differently

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety

what about that guys from Columbia? There are some video on Youtube with their bircks. Im think you know them

5:36 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuDwKeh85lA

yeah, lots of hype and funds but as said, nobody knows for sure

Just don't build like a "house"

if it would be allowed via low-tech and no additives, we would have seen it

Buenos días

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that's why : we need a dossier on the subject ...

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5:39 PM

@Ancizar Hincapié Velez : hola, espaniol : #deleted-channel (edited)

Como se encuentra el día de hoy

id like to see a PP brick with a pocket on the front for plants to grow in and a watering system inside

5:40 PM

@Ancizar Hincapié Velez : #deleted-channel

No. de Colombia

#deleted-channel

lociento, ingles solo aqui

"water system" time for PVC pipe I think

5:42 PM

Not every recycling needs to go through Precious Plastic machines.

5:42 PM

I mean it's more reusing

i was thinking a full one piece moulded thing that stacks like a brick

That works too I guess

there are not aditives for toxic emanations?

Sorry already 0:43 am here in Japan.

I really like this issue of recycling and would like to do something else to help the planet.

@Rocio : possible, depends still on much sun exposure though

in Romania because of the climate, all housesneed thermoisolation. Which means normally the birck will not be exposed to sun

@Ancizar Hincapié Velez : us to, and we just got started

i just got start to got start

yeah, out for today, enjoy your sunday fellas, next week is even harder than before

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It is that I found out that they have two locations of precious plastics to which in Colombia. I want to be part of this great campaign and start from scratch. I live in the City of Armenia Quindio (Colombia). There is no recycling management in this city, and I would like to be the first to start this work here in the city.

As you might know, we have to empty Eindhoven workspace, so if some of you want, or know someone who would want our robot, here is the add : https://www.ebay.com/itm/254586796061

FANUC M-10iA + system R-30iA

FANUC SYSTEM R-30iA. FANUC robot M-10iA. serial n° : R11X01830. type : A05B-1221-B402. assembly from 10.2011 refurbished by IRSA in 2018.

7:00 PM

Feel free to share around as well

Can i have some of your plastic bricks?

7:00 PM

Not joking

7:02 PM

@Yann

We might keep the majority of our current bricks, for a project that might happend soon. But if I lack space for them, I'll tell you !

ireallyneed only a few ones for checking and testing them

7:11 PM

i am interested in this idea with bricks

id like to see a PP brick with a pocket on the front for plants to grow in and a watering system inside

@Timberstar I have actually been thinking about something pretty much like this. I would like to design a completely modular system, that would ideally also be able to hold lighting units, as a possible upgrade. Currently experimenting a bit with hydroponics myself, hopefully i will know enough to soon design something usable

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HELLO

11:36 PM

Am new on the preciousplstic just want to build a community

Hello I am new here also

Is there somebody here from Uk?

#deleted-channel

Anyone know the cost effectiveness of the recycled plastic? Like if you got free plastic and recycled into say 3D printer filament. Is there a strong ROI? I can’t find anything concrete

I think you were looking for this:

5:56 AM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business/workspacecalculator

5:56 AM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AywsAePEdu25GOKupowA1-VGgY2Yy357akE0nCiL2lE/edit?usp=drive_open&ouid=107478605019693654005

5:57 AM

@Matthew Campbell Make a copy and follow the instructions:)

5:58 AM

If you have a feedback or questions about the calculator, head to #deleted-channel channel. I will be around.

@Lazy_Turtle nah I’ve seen this sheet. I have a much simpler question. Is anyone actually making profit just recycling the plastic? A spreadsheet doesn’t tell you that if you don’t know the correct inputs and outputs

oh ok

6:44 AM

Many people here are making profit just recycling, but there are different types

6:44 AM

Some run an event,

Not with events or community. Like actually from the core activity of recycling the plastic

it's very flexible

6:45 AM

Yeah many people are profiting from it.

6:45 AM

But I don't think I am the best person to ask those kind of questions because I am pretty new here

Trying to find an example. Anyone have a blog post or video

6:46 AM

Talking about how they run a profitable business with it ?

Are you focusing on workspaces or other businesses?

6:48 AM

From Preciousplastic.com

Recycling plastic, not making some kind of coworking space or events around it

6:48 AM

Like the whole reason the project exists to recycle plastic. Is there examples of making that profitable

Yes there is

6:50 AM

But due to covid-19 it's harder than normal

6:52 AM

Go to #🖐start-here and give yourself a role

Not sure what covid 19 would have to do with if? Project has been around for a few years before that

It has a pretty big impact on everyone

7:01 AM

Many people are starting a workspace (including me) but some got suspended

7:03 AM

I started my workspace in a school and school got closed, so it's suspended.

7:03 AM

Impossible to make profit without selling

7:05 AM

It's just like any other business. During the Pandemic it is really hard to sell even one item

7:09 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-52499338?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/cdww0pw76mgt/small-businesses&link_location=live-reporting-story

7:10 AM

You can google "Small business"

@Matthew Campbell : no, there are no case studies or any evidences. From what I've seen over the years, only those with background and resources managed to make a business out of it, I'd say that's just <1%. It also depends how you look at it, ie: proper full-time employment with all insurances paid, ... and the very 1% is rather operating outside of PP. Even as machine builder it's brutal hard, especially these days. Be prepared to invest over many years. We're the more successful in the project but even though, with c19, 80% of the sales are gone. We run this whole thing from savings and other incomes.

11:20 AM

But you can adopt PP into your existing business, that's what most clients we have do.

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I guess it all comes down what our forum Senior already said one day "if you don't have strong ties with the industry,... consider this a hobby", otherwise you might end up with big gaps in your savings, retirement payments,...

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The main goal of Precious Plastic is to reduce plastic waste... they (we) consider that money is what keeps us moving... recycling (edited)

11:42 AM

"Sustainable Recycling" is another word for Precious Plastic

Well, that might be a 'goal', indeed. The machines are too small and outcome is too questionable. And no it's not 'sustainable' looking at the resources and energy you have to pump into it. That's why the industry also dropped recycling, I found it rather shocking and sad the PP central is targeting young people with this idea with no proper base; those poor young guys are not doing anything for their retirement in the meantime. But I do consider it as educational vehicle

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11:48 AM

Luckily there is an increase of small enterprise adopting PP for their activities, that makes around 15% in our customer base but also there, they want different machines.

If every town had a Precious Plastic Universe, it would work.

11:50 AM

But this is a small-scale recycling business for everyone

how you come to this ? for this we need quite a different setup ...

How big is our impact.

11:52 AM

I remember filling the survey

near zero, let's build on this than claims

Precious Plastic is small multiplied by a lot.

11:53 AM

Recycling Industry is BIG multiplied by some

11:54 AM

If we are able to recycle everything in one town via Precious Plastic Universe,

I am still waiting for blogs, case studies, articles backing this theory up

Would that be a big impact?

Hopefully in V5:)

yeah, might take 1-2 years we can roll something decent & complete out

I'm going to list the features here

11:57 AM

•Precious Plastic Reward system

11:57 AM

•Precious Plastic App

11:57 AM

•Precious Plastic Podcast

right, I have to go back work; see you in while; couldn't work on the document yesterday, will do today

•Precious Plastic Paid courses

11:57 AM

Ok

11:57 AM

•Precious Plastic New role: Instructors/Advisers

11:58 AM

•Precious Plastic New workspace: Self-recycling shop

11:58 AM

That's all

11:58 AM

I will be a little busy tonight

that's the spirit!

No... I will be busy with my Kanji homeworks too...

12:01 PM

I will be there

@Peter-Bas : you've mentioned some templates in #deleted-channel the other day. Any chance to get hands on it ? Now is a good time. I am working since some months on a new 'library' system, mainly focused on machines, components, parts and everything which ties them together over long, ...

1:26 PM

Among the sections 'Overview', 'Drawings', 'Assembly', 'Manuals', 'Resources', 'Downloads', 'BOM' there is also a new subsystem : 'Issues' and 'Variants' planned; something actionable for the community and developers.

Greeting to all of you.My name is Jean Marie NIZIGIYIMANA from Burundi and i am new in this platform.can someone tell me more about this platform?I am not only interested in plastic recycling but i am involved in my country and in case there is someone from Burundi, i would like to know.thanks

"This is where you can meet each other, ask quick questions. Chat about local struggles, different solutions. It’s messy, its temporary information, most of these conversations are obsolete and outdated after a few days." From davehakkens.nl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xim1m2Bhvzc big mould

Victoria and Albert Museum

How Was it Made? The Panton Chair

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So robotic

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Hi! Where can I find help with my shredder electricity?

@Elliot_Letourno : ask your question in #archived-machines just, somebody picks it

Thank you

Hola soy de Chile, necesito, estoy diseñando un triturador para botellas plasticas y PVC, me pueden ayudar a resolver las siguientes dudas??, gracias.

CONSULTAS_TECNICAS.pdf

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The main goal of Precious Plastic is to reduce plastic waste... they (we) consider that money is what keeps us moving... recycling

@Lazy_Turtle its only sustainable if its cheaper then making new plastic, otherwise it doesn't make sense, cause if it costs more its not really helping anyone

It helps animals

7:36 AM

I think you are thinking too economic.

If you think about it, making new plastic itself is not sustainable

Hi Guys. I'm currently working to start a campaign to collect various kinds of waste such as plastic bottles, old clothes and also paper. Precious plastic is one of the main sources that I am getting this huge knowledge from. Just a quick question We are trying to collect plastic bottles and reuse and create something out of it What would you people suggest me to work on? is it possible to mold plastic and make something out of it? This is the only question I have in mind. Hope to find a solution so we can bring in a social change.

Good to hear that. However, most plastic bottles are made from PET, which does not work really well with Precious Plastic Machines. It is possible to mold plastic, and create things.

9:19 AM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/intro

9:22 AM

I've heard of someone recycling PET, but not with PP Machines I think

9:25 AM

Works with 3D printing

9:27 AM

Sorry for interupting over and over @NoMorePlastic

9:27 AM

https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/reuse-and-upcycling/

@Lazy_Turtle its only sustainable if its cheaper then making new plastic, otherwise it doesn't make sense, cause if it costs more its not really helping anyone

@Matthew Campbell PP is not about making money or reducing plastic waste (sure both are relevant issues) PP is about using plastic waste and getting it back into the market and away from landfill, oceans etc. PP is about educating global markets that there is a place for recycled plastic and paving a way for new and innovative products to be developed on a smaller consumer level, its also designed for the less funded applications (aka small business) to be able to make a difference in a waste suffocating world on a large scale. Small steps by lots of people. If you want to make money you need to apply several applications into a business model and have a viable product to carry to market (that the part you need to discover). Oh and recycling plastic is a lot cheaper than producing virgin plastic but that is a whole other industry and issue.

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If you want to make money... this is not the right place.

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yep, PP is a tool, you need to learn how to use it then apply it.

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that are harsh sentences here today

(edited)

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how about 'PP is what you want it to be' ? I like the freedom in it

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@Deleted User absolutely, it was only directed at the questions asked how to make money off it. Helping the problem is not about making money. Great if you can...we all have to eat but not the focus the planet needs. Money/greed is pretty much the reason we are at this point.

Yeah, I am afraid that good projects need $$, lot's of it; not considering or refusing it will likely lead to fail and I 've seen this so many times happening. Ok then, let's move on

It is a tool....apply it best you see, It has pointed us at PPV in direction we never thought to go. We are glad we found it.

great, just saying, til humans still have their both feets on monetary grounds, we might be better off by playing by the books/rules - but we can work our way out sometime though.

11:21 AM

creating alternative tools was pretty much the reason I've joined PP; now I'am kinda disappointed and sad too see that is rather hard to impossible

but hey, I am not given up yet

Ah look bigger than that, look to the community, how do we change the way we interact with plastic....education, presence, persistence. PP as a community is getting very large globally, soon it will have weight to push an agenda. Show the WORLD what recycled plastic is capable of and get it into industry, media and bang there is the market. We need people like us all now, to keep experimenting and finding those" right" products/applications and pathways to head down. Grow the community and the awareness. Haha there's my sales pitch

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right, - I am sold !

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We are not so much looking at developing new products. Rather we are redesigning existing products we feel would work well made from recycled plastic. Which allows people to make a greener choice.

But we need strong horses (or tools) for that too; machine builders for instance have the privilege and resources to push the limits (we feel pretty much alone there btw.). Workspaces however are ideally telling them what they need. I actually miss exactly this loop in PP. Us for instance, we do new machines for new applications (schools, bars, hotels,...), out of the normal PP and yet, we fail to create a complete kit which could replace items in the public supply chain. I hope that our new vending shredder, grinder module and print module can archive something. @Butte (PP Philippines) showed recently amazing results too btw.

Ah look bigger than that, look to the community, how do we change the way we interact with plastic....education, presence, persistence. PP as a community is getting very large globally, soon it will have weight to push an agenda. Show the WORLD what recycled plastic is capable of and get it into industry, media and bang there is the market. We need people like us all now, to keep experimenting and finding those" right" products/applications and pathways to head down. Grow the community and the awareness. Haha there's my sales pitch

@NoMorePlastic Make that open source. Some people might want to use that

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11:52 AM

Precious Plastic Universe 5.0 (or 2.0 but I like it this way) is what I have been working on this few days... https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16H0LEWjMT95KbrAc_0soVdJUgps8QQ_x-LONSMkXw84/edit#slide=id.ge965474a9_3_399 Post a comment here

@Lazy_Turtle got just promoted from the member of the month, to the member of the year, !

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But we need strong horses (or tools) for that too; machine builders for instance have the privilege and resources to push the limits (we feel pretty much alone there btw.). Workspaces however are ideally telling them what they need. I actually miss exactly this loop in PP. Us for instance, we do new machines for new applications (schools, bars, hotels,...), out of the normal PP and yet, we fail to create a complete kit which could replace items in the public supply chain. I hope that our new vending shredder, grinder module and print module can archive something. @Butte (PP Philippines) showed recently amazing results too btw.

@Deleted User Yes that's all part of the new products as well, from start to finish, implement new ways for new or existing products and processes.

11:59 AM

haha cool

11:59 AM

We will be very interested in your vending shredder as that is on our product list.

Mind the irony, the development is paid by a feeling guilty water bottle company

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12:01 PM

@Lazy_Turtle : good work! Let me complete the whys and hows. I started yesterday to collect all that again, sorry for being late, I am running a 3 man jobs here alone right now.

12:02 PM

@Lazy_Turtle : good work! Let me complete the whys and hows. I started yesterday to collect all that again, sorry for being late, I am running a 3 man jobs here alone right now.

@Deleted User

Precious Plastic Universe 5.0 (or 2.0 but I like it this way) is what I have been working on this few days... https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16H0LEWjMT95KbrAc_0soVdJUgps8QQ_x-LONSMkXw84/edit#slide=id.ge965474a9_3_399 Post a comment here

@Lazy_Turtle nice work, I like where that's going. Collaboration is very powerful.

Well that's all about the universe. collaboration.

12:07 PM

Zoom in progress. Scared.

V2 of hydroponic experiment, predictably failed due to stagnant water, urine is gross and perfect though, excellent NPK for free. Do people have cheap solution for circulating water with only recycled objects? I have been using plastic bottles cut.

The main intension of my project is not at all to generate money primarily. I have been going through ideas where the PET bottles can be turned into clear bottles, fabrics etc. I'm trying to get in a concept where whatever plastic bottle is there can be made a good use of rather than making it become a cause of landfills.

5:50 PM

I'm thinking of starting the first stage in my college where if one person gives me one bottle I can collect upto 2,500 bottles. Even if these bottles don't contribute a lot but even this can be a beginning of reducing the plastic bottles going into the dump yard.

5:51 PM

Even if I end up collecting a decent amount of bottles the main question is what can I transform it to as it should be productive and effective and put for a good use.

@Shobith | PM Well, material recovery facilities already did have a way to turn waste PET bottle into granules which then used for new PET bottle again, or fabrics (polyester if im not wrong). So the recycling PET part isn't much of an issue.

7:11 PM

I think the bigger problem is how to effectively sort plastic waste from landfills

Low tech wise it is a problem; otherwise we would have a process, no ? Currently we can only print it but that's about it, as far I know.

because not many % of plastic waste is processed because it isn't economically make sense, someone gotta find a way to make it work more efficiently

Our investor however is about to create sub stream, picking & shredding the bottles directly at the consumer site

Since nearly 65% of the plastic is PET the need of a process as @Filagain told as it being effecient enough should be something that needs to be done

100+

7:16 PM

remains the question we still wanna spread PET as particles, coming from fiber, ...

@Deleted User Well all sort of recycling activity would be problematic with 'low tech' solution. There really need to be a more 'centralized' approach for waste management, because it's not very attractive if tenth or hundred ppl build & managing some thousands dollar of DIY machines but utilize it more like a hobby

1000+

7:20 PM

yeah, till having a hard time making sense of all that ...

7:21 PM

For now we consider PP as large scale playground, to grow ideas and get ready for the next big things.

You know I am studying engineering here in India and we have something called as a Social Innovation Program where students work in sectors like Waste Management, Agriculture etc. We've a pitch deck and I've been lately think a sustainable process where we can make a good use of the plastic bottles in some way. So this is my yearly project I'm looking forward to but end up being stuck somewhere in the middle.

@Shobith | PM , sometimes there is only re-creational or educational value in those activities

Agreed.

please go on, i have to leave, very exciting discussion

@Shobith | PM Perhaps try to figure a way to make recycling easier for consumer and have additional benefits other than saving the environment, or in short: make recycling more effective and make sense economically? (edited)

Yup. That's something I can work on.

7:30 PM

I recently discovered this process where they make these long strips of the plastic bottles and then do something out of it.

For example, I run this project called Filagain (filagain.com) where we sell 3D printing materials to users and they can exchange their 3D printed waste with points that can be used to buy new materials again. So not only it prevents more plastic waste entering landfill, but can also make 3D printing more economical in the long run

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7:31 PM

It's still a concept, I need to figure out the numbers

If in a way we are not actually allowing people to dump it but create simple products which we can use in our day to day life, we are actually promoting the reuse of plastics that end up in landfills. It's a cyclic process where the the plastic from the bottle end up at your place itself.

7:32 PM

@Filagain that sounds interesting. Will surely have a look your site.

@Shobith | PM well technically, the people who dump on landfill are more often is your govt' waste management. or perhaps youre talking about the unauthorized landfill

7:38 PM

anyway i'll be off for a while, got work

Here we have these government municipal vehicles that come everyday to pick our waste up and they take it all together without even having seperate compartments for dry and wet waste. And take everything to the dump yard.

7:39 PM

Okay. Catch you later.

Hello, could someone here give me his/her opinion on this type of shredder: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/shredder/shredder-fully-built/manual-shredder/ thank you, greetings from berlin

Machines :: Shredder :: Shredder Fully Built :: MANUAL SHREDDER

Hullo!

I saw on Grand Designs New Zealand a house being built with insulation made from pet bottles. I wonder how they stabilise or contain it?

6:00 AM

@ole Only manual? Don’t you have any metalworkers around who could make you one? It seems fairly small.

did they just shred it into a consistance similar to fiberglass?

@Shobith | PMwhere are you from?

9:14 AM

India cool

Yup.

@Lookhere no, i want to use it with a motor. i thought it may be better than the precious plastic basic shredder because it has to axes. on the other hand, there are no blades on the sides and also no sieve. i am wondering wich of the two would perform better.

@ole : the drive shaft is missing on this build and the hexbar is welded on the gear - I'd ask them for a demo video; looks like being done in a hurry. Also the gears look a little weird, is this laser cut too ? However, dual axle is more efficient, yep, but sieve can be problematic on dual axle - so you have to re-shred a few times; the teeth look alright, long enough to grab stuff but yet, you might still use a plunger.

11:52 AM

weird dimension though : 9 x 15 x 17 cm

@Deleted User thank you for your answer. seems like it would be a safer way to choose the standart precious plastic shredder, even if it might shred less plastic in the same time

hard to say; what you wanna shred ? general house hold plastic ? there is quite some energy waste with this design, a 3Kw drive with gearbox isn't peanuts after all.

yes, general house hold plastic and 3d prints. i want to use a 1.3kw motor.

12:03 PM

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could work, I think @Nick - PP France / french gang found a better device; can't recall what it was, a garden wood shredder motor or so. Can anyone advise ?

12:08 PM

https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/hi-from-saarland/

12:09 PM

and here a custom search : https://www.google.com/search?q=winch+motor+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&oq=winch+motor+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&aqs=chrome..69i57.10703j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

12:10 PM

winch motors get hot after 10, 20, 30 minutes, not made for long, poor gear box

Hey guys, just wondering if these shredders/recyclers are suitable for shredding/granulating thin plastic films? (edited)

i would assume so? unless it was stretch enough it could clog?

3:22 PM

need someone with one to do tests

3:22 PM

Can we make more roles for ease of communication?

3:23 PM

Was thinking:

3:23 PM

Time Zone Roles (GMT +/- X)

3:23 PM

Region Roles (North America, Central America, South America, Europe, etc)

3:24 PM

Country Roles

It's BOPP film

3:24 PM

Tonnes of it

3:25 PM

I'm wondering whether it would clog the shredding jaws(? not sure what they're called)

i don't have a machine so i can't say, will try pinging relevant people

That would be great, if it can run this material I can get a pro machine built and tested at an industrial level (edited)

@🤙v4-team @Workspace @Machine shop

3:25 PM

HALP

3:26 PM

so polypropylene

Yes, what I notice on commercial machines is that they shred, melt, extrude then granulate the material

3:27 PM

By lopping off the extruded rods continuously

another idea:

3:28 PM

could you iron/melt film into a block/blob

3:28 PM

then shed that

3:28 PM

would require additional steps

3:28 PM

but may work

3:28 PM

*if "raw" film doesnt

Here's an example machine: https://youtu.be/fGTtxWuIj-U

Polystar Machinery

New 3-D Repro-Flex recycling machine

3:29 PM

It wouldn't really be feasible to do that unfortunately

that being the device in the video?

It's just a recycling machine that can handle plastic films, I note the process is different so was looking for thoughts/opinions

what do you think of the " pp film->melted/ironed togetherf blob -> shredder -> pp flakes " workflow?

3:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV6Zp9i0mOc

Create marble from plastic bags #preciousplastic

3:33 PM

WAIT

3:34 PM

video shows them shredding bags? (edited)

3:34 PM

not sure on long term clogging etc

depending on the thickness of your film, it may get clogged between the schredding blades, very risky operation

3:35 PM

but to make compression, you don't HAVE to shred

would pre-melting /ironing before shredding

3:35 PM

work

depends on your thickness output; the schredder is designed to work with commercial-found plastic which is usually approx 2mm thick

3:36 PM

if it's thicker than that, it may have trouble schredding it

makes sense

3:36 PM

where is all this type of data on machine preformance / standard operating procedures placed (if anywhere)

This is 20-50 micron thickness films

napkin math ~40 layers

3:38 PM

could the compression machine partially automate this?

3:38 PM

1. Bunch up film 2. Put bunch in compression 3. remove and shred?

I mean, in theory yes. But practically it would need to be reel fed

3:39 PM

When you consider the average roll length for an end user is around 1500m, and extruded reels can be 22000m length etc.

lol true

3:40 PM

should we / can we make a development page for a machine that does this?

3:40 PM

@admin

3:40 PM

seems like a huge source of material

It's the holy grail for flexible packaging recycling really, nearly all injection moulders have cheap shredders for recycling their own parts etc.

3:41 PM

Plus, what we have here is virgin material, which is perfect for injection moulding

i did some work at a food rescue place (distribution center is to store, as food rescue group is to food bank) and we had tons of shrink wrap on pallets etc we just threw away

3:42 PM

any idea grams/meter or some measurement like that?

@Eric Lotze : you tagged all machine builders, what´s up ? don´t do that please, I get usually banned for less

(edited)

needed machine specs

3:43 PM

oh ok still learning how we do things here

3:43 PM

sorry about that

welcome on board

I think it would need to shred, extrude, cut and dry inline (edited)

would heated rollers work to make a more dense blob in a continous fashion?

3:45 PM

bin with rollers some distance apart

3:45 PM

loose film gets thrown in the bin

3:45 PM

forced through rollers into a bin with the more dense sheet?

3:45 PM

may still have a clogging issue?

I suspect there's a good reason polystar uses that process, rather than any others (it works, haha) (edited)

as in the process in the video you posted?

Yes

did it say how they cut the film? (ie blades ?)

3:55 PM

also have we developed a exruder machine add on for making pellets (a rotating cuttting disk and nema-17 stepper perhaps?)

I can't really tell

4:01 PM

Looking at a spec sheet:

4:01 PM

Cutter Compactor
Drum dia. 650 mm
Driving motor 22 KW x 4P
Cooling blower 1/8 HP x 2 sets, with water cooling device
Rotary cutter 4 pcs (on rotary bar)
Stationary cutter 8 pcs (inside the drum wall)
Cutter material SKH9

Seems to be bladed shredder "stationary cutter" being the blade bar, and "rotary cutter" being the shredder gears?

No idea

4:09 PM

A rotary cutter to me is more like a lawnmower/blender type blade

would that get tangles below the blade around the axle?

4:11 PM

i saw the video, and text you posted, before i dig, did yoi find any other info sites/documents? (edited)

No other info unfortunately

that's fine, muckraking for data is one of the few things i'm good at!

Haha, good luck

4:15 PM

Actually if you look carefully in the video, it is a cutter as I described

4:16 PM

vertical blades on a rotating drum

4:16 PM

@Eric Lotze https://youtu.be/fGTtxWuIj-U check this video

Polystar Machinery

New 3-D Repro-Flex recycling machine

Hi to everyone

Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone here has any links to plans or model of DIY CNC PLASMA CUTTER TABLE, I want to make a 2x2 plasma table but Im open to suggestions. Something that has been made before so there is less guess work and modification or may light modifications. Please don't send links to plasma cutter on Instructables, Ive seen that a million times. Thanks in advance

I would like to start a community point in sicily

@sharma.sagar94 https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/CNC_Torch_Table

CNC Torch Table

4:18 PM

can use any torch

4:19 PM

fully open source

@Shobith | PM @Sunil Hi,I am a machine builder from India and you can contact me if you need any help. (edited)

4:21 PM

@Eric Lotze the website shows its still in Prototype stage, would it be wise to build it?

@sharma.sagar94 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3026040 maybe?

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4:25 PM

3d printed parts, doesnt look very strong but if its only carrying a plasma cutter, not a router, might be ok

@Timberstar I think the whiplash from plasma torch will be strong which this won't be able to handle, plus I don't wanna cheap out. I want to make a sturdy design that'll last longer

@sharma.sagar94 i tried dMing you but the messages aren't getting sent.

looking for more info on the OSE one, it IS used to cut parts for the tractors etc (i think it uses oxy-fuel), but i will get back to you with more hard data

@Deleted User Should we put this on a list of V5 plan?

the film recycler?

Yes

i would think so?

There is already a document

4:52 PM

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w0llo6ClhzmIWgL_sHBcGNB1srk6erm5_ifz5QAztcY/edit?usp=sharing

4:52 PM

This one is more about the systems and the universe, but I will put it

nice!

4:53 PM

i think blow molding (injection, or extrusion), and some sort of spray (for filters, and fiber insulation) may be worth looking in to as well

4:54 PM

also can we make additional chats for various machines?

4:54 PM

(so i don't clog up this chat lol)

Let me change the setting of the document so that we can all edit

4:54 PM

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w0llo6ClhzmIWgL_sHBcGNB1srk6erm5_ifz5QAztcY/edit?usp=sharing

Precious Plastic V5

Precious Plastic Version 5 SUN May 3, 2020 OVERVIEW After the launch of Precious Plastic V4, the community has evolved and has been getting bigger and bigger. We need a system to sustain a Precious Plastic Universe. This is the proposal for the Head Quarter. GOALS Spread Prec...

4:54 PM

⬆️ New one

thanks!,

4:55 PM

before i dive in there, should i just make a page break? is there a template/format we are using? I don't want to step on any toes

Well kind of, but just write down any thoughts and I can format it right.

4:56 PM

If you can, do it. If not, it's fine

4:59 PM

Building #v5-development channel can be an option, but you can use google docs chat too.

5:04 PM

There is a google slide too.

5:05 PM

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16H0LEWjMT95KbrAc_0soVdJUgps8QQ_x-LONSMkXw84/edit#slide=id.gcb9a0b074_1_0

Precious Plastic Universe 5.0

Precious Plastic Universe 5.0 By Ryoma Kamei (Ryoma-Recycle Naga)

Hello. I am David Herrera. I have been in the recycling industry for 13 years. I am interested in learning what I can make with the 12-15 tons of plastic I see being dumpstered every month.

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Hello, welcome to Precious Plastic! Here is a page about possibilities. https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/products.html

Precious Plastic Products

Explore a world of opportunities with recycled plastic. Learn how to recycle plastic waste into amazing products.

alrighty

6:14 PM

dumped all my ideas on the google slide

6:14 PM

probably a bit unrealistic and/or may need to be more "spread out"

6:14 PM

on another note, how is our social media prescence?

6:15 PM

r/OpenSourceHardware

6:15 PM

r/Open Source

6:15 PM

and some other related pages may be good for getting more devs/intrested people

6:15 PM

GRANTED

6:15 PM

you don't want to link spam/promote

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Cutting US version Pro V4 blades on the laser today. https://twitch.tv/citsciworkshop

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@CitSciWorkshop : files, or didn't happen

8:36 PM

happy to migrate this into v4 imperial if you like

Just letting sparks fly today and finishing our beta batch. I'll have to burn the midnight oil to do the docs. After all these months so happy to have all my physical parts in.

right, keep us posted, how much you paid for the laser ? is it fiber ,... ?

8:40 PM

if i can ask

no it is a s e c r e t

was wondering to get one but our service is dirt cheap after all

Yeah fiber, "I went all in." ;) Basically wouldn't be able to build these if I hadn't.

i'd love the freedom to mess around of course

oxy fuel can do a decent job? Anyone have a good plasma vs oxy fuel vs laser cutting chart?

so ballpark is 25k ?

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Id only know the laser side but the relationship to exy cutting is there. Just a tighter line w/ the beam vs. Cone.

I'd love to see the cutted hardox edges right after

This is an early raw

8:52 PM

cool, I hope you don't need to grind it sharper ; thanks (edited)

8:58 PM

your wife might be not happy wearing the ring

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http://www.inkl.com/news/new-bacterial-enzyme-breaks-down-plastic-in-hours-and-enables-high-quality-recycling?share=BpLpogtNyLR Pretty cool, not sure how relevant it is to home recycling.

New Enzyme Breaks Down Plastic In Hours And Enables High-Quality Re...

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@MicroTransactionsMatterToo : happy to see you back

Yeah, sorry for being away so long. I got the shredder built, but I've run into issues with adding a mesh, so I've put it on the backburner until I can make a more servicable version, since the Precious Plastics model is designed to be made of sheet metal, and isn't ideal. I'm hoping to get work at a machine shop locally, and hopefully make the parts in my spare time

12:53 AM

@Deleted User What's happened with the updated shredder design? I remember it being close to completion last time I was on

@MicroTransactionsMatterToo Yeah, looks like the mesh needs another iteration (quick release, stronger), some folks manage to destroy it from time to time. Updated shredder design, there is now a bigger one, called v4 and v3.2-unofficial is still being tested here but will only improve energy consumption/efficiency, the pain however seems to be the same (plunging), so we´re looking for something v3.5 ish instead (dual axle) til Sept, turns out that a 1/3 bigger version of MorrenTrading´s shredder might do and I hope we can close all issues for the v3.x line with that. Perhaps you can offer an internship to the machine shop ..

Re: New Enzyme Breaks Down Plastic In Hours First posted by [@]Dan Taylor#0431 https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/697737270639329320 This has got Gray Goo written all over it.

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Go to sleep for a few hours and miss all this reading lol

3:52 PM

so skimmed most of it BUT

3:52 PM

on the note of forming the clear part of face shelds, vacuum forming would be best

3:53 PM

if pet from bottles is cleanable with hospital disinfectants (without melting etc) that may work

3:53 PM

pet bottle -> shredder -> sheet maker -> compression or vacuum former

3:54 PM

GRANTED in most areas the sheets aren't the limiting factor

3:54 PM

or i skiipped back?

3:54 PM

i did something weird lol

a n y w h o

4:49 PM

@Deleted User do you have a dedicated website/github of your own for your dev efforts, or are you posting them to the pp website/github?

yeah, plenty of repos : https://github.com/plastic-hub/ -> output right now is https://precious-plastic.org/pp/ as said, mainly using jekyll & some extra small tooling, just to keep it all low profile (no work)

4:53 PM

@Timberstar is working on the CAD, there are basically just TODOs, not much thinking left so far, just work

I can share with you the roadmap. @Lazy_Turtle also added very interesting thoughts to roll out a better PP sometime

@Eric Lotze Thanks for adding some stuff

o yeah did like a huge dump of my far out ideas lol

I don't have much knowledge on machines, so @Timberstar is reviewing it

is the "arbor injection" a fork or is that a part name or what

6:26 PM

granted brain is hurting rn

6:26 PM

may need to get caffeine lol

nah, it's originally developed by the 'Taller Esferica' heros of PP; I took it further (or beyond) and made it work for production somehow, since then folks keep copying it all over; 'power of open source'

6:33 PM

I really love the ergonomics of it, awesome for fiddling around, clean look and design; quite alright for my first PP machine though. I've made an update, it has now 42 cm barrel length, at 25 mm diameter; was wondering to try 30mm (edited)

hi, can i ask which country youré in @Eric Lotze?

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I am in Jacksonville Florida USA

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6:53 PM

do we have roles for this, or at least time zones (GMT+x ,GMT-x ,GMT)

i am outside of my timezone due to chronic insomnia

s a m e

7:12 PM

"no time zone, only a lack of a sleep schedule"

7:13 PM

make that a role too lol

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true, I wish i am dreaming sometime though, can we have the 'day dreamer' role ?

does anyone have a way to turn hdpe into starter pots for plants and greenhouses. i think that could be a good thing to make.

either an injection mold or a 3d print?

7:19 PM

do you mean hydroponic mesh pots, or your standard garden variety (haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa) plant pot

i was thinking vacume forming if you could make a thing sheet of it

7:20 PM

like this

i was thinking we need to make some standardized vacuum forming jig. Can the sheet press make thin enough sheets for one?

thats my question can it make it thin?

7:21 PM

you might need some hot rollers to then run the thicker sheets through to make it thin enough..

with a very small of flakes would it produce a thin sheet? not a film thin, but a semi-rigid sheet

i am not sure you might need to grind the plastic really small

anyone with a machine able to test this?

7:30 PM

i am not wanting to @ people as that is bad(?) on this server,but

7:31 PM

we do need to contact someone with a machine

i am not sure who has one to test it

@Eric Lotze vacuum forming hasnt really been explored yet by PP, i think partly because its not very widely used but also because the machine is so simple to make it doesnt really need a standardized design

true

7:32 PM

a shopvac and a box

and an oven

could the sheet maker - heater device be modified to make a vacuum forming + heating workflow?

7:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cacr1WeKOzY&t=

Adam Savage’s Tested

Adam Savage's Vacuum Forming Machine

@Timberstar the vacuum foarming is not the test it is how thin of a sheet can we make

thinking something like that

yea a giant vacuum former might be on the cards in the future

7:33 PM

for the large sheetpress

with rollers for sheet in, the tested like machine, then rollers out

I was very close to picking up one of these a bit ago: https://www.mayku.me

Mayku

We help people make incredible things with beautiful tabletop machines.

granted smaller workspaces etc could use something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx66mS7U2vY&t=

Punished Props Academy

Prop: Shop - How to Make a Vacuum Forming Machine

I have a friend who has one though and should see what I can do with it.

but for the borderline industrial workspaces a dedicated workflow machine would be nice

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@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) nice! (edited)

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$699

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oof

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That’s why I didn’t proceed lol

meanwhile wood box + 3d form + toaster oven + various small parts + shop vac = ~100 usd

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i guess more controllable though

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also a more integrated workflow

the former is the easy part. we still need the sheets

yeah

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how do i contact a sheet press owner

7:38 PM

still spooked to use the "@"

That Mayku FormBox says that thermoplastic sheets of 0.25 - 1.5 mm in thickness work best. And it recommends using PETg, HIPS, ABS, PS, PP, Pcarb, Pethylene, or Acrylic PMMA. I’m sure that sheets could be produced by some of the sheet press people to a larger thickness and rolled down as previously mentioned.

desktop machines are for hobbyists. PP should concentrate on larger machines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1BzazKvav8

Shanghai Yiyou Thermoforming Machines

HDPE Thick Sheet Vacuum Forming Machine for Plastic Pallet

b o t h

sure theres definately a place for educational machines and craftsman style methods, but to really have an impact on the plastic waste problem we need to think bigger, faster, automated

8:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jashtIfeaOE

Design2PartTradeShow

Large Plastic Parts Thermoformed - C&K Plastics Vacuum, Pressure & ...

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also profitability is key to the long term sustainability of the movement

I would think that the vast majority of people who are getting into the Precious Plastic world aren’t doing so for large industrial sized machines. But I’ll be happy to see people progress with whatever they’re working on.

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) yes i agree but i think people are kidding themselves thinking they are helping the planet when on the small scale the overall impact is probably actually negative

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Mass production is an unpopular concept around here but its actually the factor which makes plastic ´precious´

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Also i feel that the culture of voluntary PP activities, while very honourable, actually has the effect of excluding a lot of people who simply cant afford to spend time on projects which have no monetary return. It becomes a self-congratulatory bubble with slim relation to the real world

8:11 PM

Environmental sustainability depends completely on financial sustainability and this just cant be achieved without mass production

@Timberstar you basically summed up what i have been thinking all along

i think people approach it with the wrong mindset... we should think about the product first, conduct some proper market research before thinking about machines. I feel like a lot of people think ´wouldnt it be nice to have a machine that recycles plastic´ and then go ahead and start building one. This is a luxury only well-off people can afford

yes you need something to do with the plastic once you collect shred and melt. just melting plastic does not mean you recycled it

and then you need to sell it to pay for the machine

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otherwise youre a hobbyist

8:23 PM

you need to know exactly how many units of product you need to produce and sell to break even before starting to build the machine

exactly. that is why i was thinking of something that is used everywhere and is fast and easy to make with the least number or machines

there are a few people following this principle, such as @Butte (PP Philippines) with his rice machine bucket things... a solid business

OSE has been thinkin this over too, need to focus on business plans etc

PP has also started to produce some guides but i dont think theres enough emphasis on the fact that financial sustainability is the absolute governing factor above all others

@Timberstar I can totally see and understand your points and I think that you’re probably right about most of everything you said but I also feel like I’m conflicted. I’m not sure that mass production is why plastic is precious. I think that’s one of the reasons why plastic is precious but it doesn’t have to be the only reason and the reason why we do what we do with it. Mass production of plastic items is what got us in this mess in the first place. Sorry I can’t type fast enough to respond in full before it getting lost haha. I understand what you’re saying but I feel like there’s more to it. I think financial sustainability can be reached through community use rather than private profit.

mass produce common things (zip ties, reusable bottles, carribeaners, building blocks (os lego) ), customize others (practical 3d prints, etc). Also recycling and/or proper disposal is key imo

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) community enterprises are a great way forward but the same principle applies. Making expensive, bespoke single items is just never gonna cut it.

bio plastic that is properly disposed, and/or recycled is fine

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definetly need better economic models\

8:32 PM

can we figure out competeing with curbside pickup?

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) mass production is the key but with recycled plastic not new plastic

Also we should be concentrating on larger items that use larger amounts of waste. The plastic waste problem is caused by large numbers of small pieces of plastic, having a massive surface area. We should be gathering these pieces together and melting them into bigger lumps with smaller surface area

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8:35 PM

the sheet press is a great example

@Beginner's Tech I think that’s the key to profit but I don’t think that’s they key to all sorts of other things. Precious Plastic is never going to beat industrial mass producers. I don’t think that’s what this is or what it should be striving for.

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) true but it still needs a way to sustain its self and larger operations are the way to do that

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@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) i disagree, i think PP can absolutely compete with industry if we have good products and efficient machines

decentralized is new but can work

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mass produced: raw material (plastic pipe, lumber, and sheets), fdm filament, and small parts seems viable?

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8:37 PM

also run a print farm

@Eric Lotze problem with that is it cost way more to have 10 sites vs one or 2 bigger sites

but transportation cost

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and time (edited)

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can make sense, but like with how it is shut down now due to covid-19, and how a $1 part can cost more due to amazon shipping

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and the convenience of picking up from a local store

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not to mention fuel burned for long distance shipping

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we won't replace everything instantly, as change is always slow (and often hard), but there is definetly a market

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key is just planning and working towards that (edited)

heres an example of a company doing it the right way https://www.recycledplasticbuildingmaterials.co.uk/recycled-plastic-sheets.html

Recycled Plastic Sheets - recycledplasticbuildingmaterials.co.uk Trade

Do you need recycled plastic sheets? Then you have come to the right place. Let us help you find the right plastic for your needs.

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@Timberstar I could very well just be naive and not thinking about this the way you are but why wouldn’t I just buy an already invented industrial machine to mass produce items? The more complex these versions are becoming the more expensive the machines are getting. Talking about bigger, better, automated machines just seems to me like more industry standard. I don’t think that’s what this project is about. I don’t think mass production makes sense here. I’m not sure I have a better proposal or an exact better way forward but it seems to me like this should be what we’re going away from.

Expensive machines are possible if your product idea is strong. If you can demonstrate a solid return it shouldnt be hard to find investors. People want cheap machines because they havent done a business plan and just want to play. Using existing industrial machines is certainly an option but they are not optimized for recycled feedstock or for the types of products produced with it

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8:49 PM

There might be quite a few industrial machines coming up for sale as the economy starts to collapse...

Also one of the core ideas about OSE is making industrial machines that are: Open Source, User Maintainable, User Customizable (edge cases, personal preferences), and Modular

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SO

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i don't know anything about the plastics industry

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so DUNNING KRUGER etc

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but perhaps they have some of the same issues of manufacturer lockdown, hard to maintain-ness, etc?

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anyone here in the industry

Sorry I keep seeing this OSE being talked about but I don’t know what that is.

sorry lol

www.opensourceecology.org

thank you

Basically a group dedicated to making all the open source hardware needed to build/run a small town/farm. Complex to explain so perhaps watch the ted talk and check it out? Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page

Marcin Jakubowski

Open-sourced blueprints for civilization

Using wikis and digital fabrication tools, TED Fellow Marcin Jakubowski is open-sourcing the blueprints for 50 farm machines, allowing anyone to build their own tractor or harvester from scratch. And that's only the first step in a project to write an instruction set for an en...

Home | Open Source Ecology

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8:53 PM

copypasta

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for you

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OOF links

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flooded the discord a bit (edited)

Hahaha! Thank you both

also we have a slack channel, and a (barely used...PASSIVE AGRESSIVNESS) discord channel if anyone is intrested

@Eric Lotze yes the open source factor is pretty important

it is good for os nerds like me, but also good for customizability, and no bloatware etc

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if you can see everything you can remove stuff you don't like (edited)

8:56 PM

or tweak it how you want

as Marcin discovered (with his early farming experience), its pretty crucial to profitability (edited)

Yah I definitely get the need for profitability and having well thought out and robust business plans and I really like the idea of customization / open sourced. I guess I’m just struggling in my own capacity to create things that simultaneously reduce waste, teach those around me about reducing waste all the while not creating waste with the creations I create with waste and hopefully make money too. I’m finding it very difficult to wrap my head around.

~~or you can profit even more via locked down macbooks, and tractors you can't fix yourself~~ (edited)

8:58 PM

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) definetly, i don''t think anyone short of linux, has solved that issue

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@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) yep, the biggest challenge is choosing products which people actually want to buy which are also positive in environmental terms

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i think makerspace-community space-small industry/commercial hybrids are a good model

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8:59 PM

one building, the size of a store

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all of those features

Yea @Eric Lotze thats the other challenge, how to have a decentralized infrastructure with a centralized purpose and community

i n t e r n e t, organization and pr is key imo. Precious Plastic has mastered the pr, just needs more organization

@Eric Lotze My goal is to do something very similar to that hybrid space idea and run it as a project through my architecture firm (in development) and hopefully elevate it to being useful within my designs. I have a lot of ideas and I’m slowly getting there but these are definitely difficult concepts for me to grasp and get through.

does the firm have a building/location?

Currently in my garage haha! In Ontario, Canada. I’m building my first small project now.

s a m e

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any other intrested people in the local area?

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n e t w o r k i n g seems to be key with small projects lol

It’s been difficult to find people interested locally but I do talks (or did talks) at schools around here about the Precious Plastic community and about finding solutions to big problems through design so there’s growth happening through that. I’ve got a group interested in starting the architecture firm together but I’ve found it difficult to get people motivated without financial motivation to join my plastic project. I completely understand but it is definitely frustrating.

school clubs? throwing an OS project at a bunch of students needing a project is always great lol.

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Also perhaps all the business plan stuff + if we can get forms and all that pre-made that may help

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especially if a makerspace is included

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and you pitch it with (edited)

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"b u s i n e s s i n c u b a t o r" , or STEM e d u c a t i o n

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and all those buzzwords

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governments + beurocrats may love that and pitch in

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key i guess may be getting the plan and all that put together first (edited)

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Anyone here use KiCAD?

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) thats precisely the problem... initiatives that rely on goodwill only get as far as the goodwill stretches, and unless particiapnts can afford to volunteer full time thats never very far. If you can demonstrate a monetary return it would be easy to find collaborators.

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1:28 AM

My brother uses it, loves it. Actually @Deleted User I should have mentioned KiCAD when you were doing those circuit drawings...

oof

1:30 AM

I was sketching up a circuit, and couldn't find some parts, got a library online, yet somehow messed it up

1:30 AM

must have been in the wrong folder?

yes with all CAD software you need to be very tidy about how you organise the files otherwise you get lost really easily. Thats the situation Im in at the moment trying to tidy up the files for the shredder and combo machines

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im not sure howo KiCAD works but i find subassemblies are an essential way to keep on top of things

it was similar to a part file in regular cad, was called a "footprint" and essentially every smd is one. Got one for an IC, and for a mini-din6 port

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didn't show up in the "footprint selector"

sorry im not familiar enough with the software to advise.. i should really look into it

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could be that the downloaded files dont match the software version you have maybe

@CitSciWorkshop @Deleted User lots of open source robot arms available.... Fanuc is very proprietary and kinda antiquated.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaYx9l-ivCQ

Inventions World

TOP 6 DIY Robotic Arm Open source You Can Buy Now On Amazon

actually, need 4-10 of these as i realized recently, no idea how to sync them, mostly light weight stuff

that was just the first video that came up, im sure there are better ones if we search a bit... bound to be a forum doing open source dev

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there is open source software available now for manually training them, ive forgotten what its called... but where you basically press record and physically move the arm to show it what to do

there is lots of it, not convinced, quite yet, looking at refurbishing kugas instead

Advantage to FANUC is support really. As for manual training, AI can be a bit stupid at times, Safety wise just manually programming it would make more sense

their documentation is great in videos, bad in cad, but skyentific is making probably the best open source robotic arm:

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcgqJ1blFKqbC2bWGY4Opmg

Skyentific

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2:59 AM

i think there was a ROS based sync software?

2:59 AM

let me re-dig it up

Fanuc has to be specially ported if you want to run it with linux

3:00 AM

as far as i understand from my armchair...

also for moving items around and between conveyor belts and other applications that don't need many DOF you can use the delta x as it would be faster and cheaper: (edited)

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https://www.deltaxrobot.com/

Delta X - Affordable & open-source delta robot kit

Delta X is an open source delta robot of IMWI Technology, a Vietnamese startup. Delta X is the cheapest but most effective delta robot in the world. Delta X customers are educational institutions, research centers and small manufacturing businesses. Currently Delta X has been ...

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here is the video on the software:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrGq05WtHDg

Acutronic Robotics

Robot coordination: Distributed (sub-microsecond) synchronization o...

wow- very cool

don't remember if it was a non-open source software (based of ros...ironic)

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or if it was open source though

Hi everyone. BMag here in Virginia, USA. Working to start up my workspace, been wanting to do this for years. Love Version 4! looks awesome.

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Hi guys, had a question. We are planinng to open a recycling space in my college campus. But then since we won't be having enough funds to build a shredder and also a injection along with the moulds until and unless we approach the government with a small prototype, can you suggest me ways to diy shredder, injection and also moulds on how I can reduce the manufacturing price.

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And also, can we make molds out of wood? Will it be able to withstand the molten plastic?

There are many hacks, check out this bicycle shredder. https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-the-plstico-fantstico-recycling-bicycle-shredder　There are many hacks other than this too.

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@Shobith | PM Wood is not recommended because Plastic sticks to the wood and decrease quality. More on the acaddemy: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/create/injection-moulds

@Shobith | PM Here's my brother's cheapo injection method: https://precious-plastic.org/pp/howto/resin-cast-barrel-injector/index.html (edited)

Resin Cast Barrel Injector

How To: Resin Cast Barrel Injector

Hi everyone! Is there a topic about efficient ways to clean and sort the raw recycled material?

HI guys just joined

@DERPMACHINE Hello, there is a cleaning machine in the how-tos and it is still in development. https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-washing-machine

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can we make a "under development" chat page for that?

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I was watching the V4 big video and I came up with an idea. How about an automatic pizza machine but recycling plastic?

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https://www.fujimak.co.jp/products/products/products01/000329.html

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1:18 PM

Like this? I need to research about the price but this should be very time-efficient

would it just have that form factor, but function as a sheet press, or what exactly is the idea (very interested, just need some clarification)

I was thinking sheet press but this might be able to make beams.

2:49 PM

The idea is very flexible

definetly seems do-able

2:50 PM

have the press in the middle

2:50 PM

make it a compression/sheet hybrid?

Wait does it really need to press?

2:51 PM

This pizza machine bakes continuously.

I think so? I was wondering if a griddle on low heat could have it make a sheet, but press is needed for consistency, and proper structural properties i think?

Doesn't the melting process make the sheet smooth?

anyone with a good griddle to burn willing to test if one and a cookie cutter can make a molded shape?

2:53 PM

it may, also putting a weight on top of the mold may work?

What is the pro side of this machine?

2:53 PM

It is time-efficient.

i think the advantage would be more so it's automatability

But Putting weight on top might brake it

2:54 PM

btw imagine baking pizza and plastic at the same time... fumes

2:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y91cJ2nRTqg

2:55 PM

Would look something simlar to this

you don't eat thermoplastic?

Ofcourse!

2:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrLkySbOIkA

Vollrath Foodservice

Vollrath Digital Conveyor Pizza Ovens - Operating Instructions

2:58 PM

Someday I might buy one of this and try

made a rough sketch

3:04 PM

you could manually feed it, or use other conveyor belts/robotic arms

3:04 PM

(like skyentific's design)

3:04 PM

ALSo

3:04 PM

the compressor plate is optional

3:04 PM

you could just do something like this drawing:

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if a simple sheet is desired remove the shape

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Let me reply with another drawing

heres an idea I had for making sheets, works a bit like a 3d printer but only 2D (edited)

Still drawing...

if using a fdm setup, i would say go all in and get a filament maker (lyman?) and a conveyor belt 3d printer like the white knight/squire:

3:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCai5w5hngu5sUbCGnCuKQYA/videos

NAK 3D Designs

Hello, Welcome to NAK 3D Designs and the home of the White Knight Belt printer.. Here you will find "How to" video's for assembly of the White Knight Belt pr...

3:18 PM

main issue is getting a pei belt

yea thats where i got the idea, but only 1 axis and much bigger with the v3 extruder

can that be mounted that way?

2 axis if you include the roller bed

3:19 PM

yea why not?

you mean the Precious Plastic Extruder, and not a filament extruder?

yes

3:21 PM

should much more energy efficient than a press and can run continuously (edited)

Ok

3:22 PM

Quick drawing

3:23 PM

How about a roller?

i don't know if this would work, but can some l o n g nozzle be made (thin long strip)?

3:23 PM

then the roller

What nozzle?

you take the circle

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and gradually stretch it

3:23 PM

so it covers a ~500mm strip with a sort of rectangle

3:24 PM

like a squished cone

You mean a conveyer on a coveyer?

3:24 PM

Hold on

3:24 PM

like this?

3:25 PM

thats a water one

3:25 PM

and nowhere near wide enough

3:25 PM

also i don't know if it would pool up in the middle

3:25 PM

anyone good at CFD or something (OpenFOAm, Blender?)

3:26 PM

can CFD even do thermoplastic goop

3:27 PM

this could also be pushed to v-6 with v-5 or whatever just being the conveyor oven of molds, and a belt printer + fdm filament maker, not this dedicated device yet? (edited)

Oh ok

3:27 PM

I made a drawing already so I will share it to you anyway

3:28 PM

use the belt as a press?

What is the purpose of the nozzle? I am confused

to spread out the plastic more than a 1mm diameter nozzle

use the belt as a press?

@Eric Lotze Yeah that is the idea, idk

for a wider sheet

3:29 PM

although does the roller do this good enough?

No you put flakes in the sheetpress. Not the liquid

ah

3:29 PM

a line of flakes

Yes

that makes sense

3:30 PM

can that be auger fed?

Sorry what is auger?

3:31 PM

English is my second language

3:32 PM

although does the roller do this good enough?

@Eric Lotze We have to test and see how it goes

first off your english is great!

3:32 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_conveyor

Screw conveyor

A screw conveyor or auger conveyor is a mechanism that uses a rotating helical screw blade, called a "flighting", usually within a tube, to move liquid or granular materials. They are used in many bulk handling industries. Screw conveyors in modern industry are often used hori...

3:32 PM

another name for screw i guess

Aha ok

3:32 PM

Thanks

3:33 PM

You meant the extruder right?

3:33 PM

For flakes or liquid?

feeding flakes on to the belt in a line

Ok

3:34 PM

I don't think we should go that automatic. I think that is a step beyond too far away.

3:34 PM

This machine is already pretty automatic.

3:35 PM

Human can be in charge of safety

3:36 PM

A thing to look for once the machine is confirmed to work.

Granted all of this can be modules too, so those who want full auto can add the screw and cutting module, those who don't need it don't HAVE to. That's the best part of Open Source stuff

If you wanted to go fully automatic, put a shredder near the pizza machine.

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3:41 PM

I mean you still have to put some plastic waste into the shredder... but fun thing to explore

shredder -> auger conveyor -> conveyor belt -> conveyor belt oven -> roller -> automated cutter

3:43 PM

that would be something

->automatic seller

3:43 PM

jk

robotic consumer

3:43 PM

too funny

lol that would not make sense

keeping the shredder separate would be better for allowing the storage of plastics in-between

3:43 PM

definetly a good idea though

I guess you are right

i think do the mold based design first to get used to working with belts, then in the next batch of stuff (next year?) move on to this

3:45 PM

i want to develop conveyor belts for automated 3D Print Farms Too, so this i DEFINETLY a good path to go down

I will go put on the V5 development doc. Thanks

i think i have that too, can go help out there

Ok

3:52 PM

@Eric Lotze I will post on davehakkens.nl

sounds good!

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By the way are you a member in davehakkens.nl? Were you able to sign up?

i think i have a forum account?

They closed sign-ups. Were you able to slide in?

i'll double check

ok

guess this is my profile:

3:58 PM

https://davehakkens.nl/community/members/ericl/

's Profile - Dave Hakkens

's Profile on Dave Hakkens

I will post it onhttps://forum.precious-plastic.org/ too. @Deleted User

Precious-Plastic-Forum

4:05 PM

@Eric Lotze Sign up to this too. @Deleted User

alrighty:

4:07 PM

https://forum.precious-plastic.org/u/eric_lotze/summary

Eric_Lotze

4:07 PM

feel like i need to make some page of all these pages lol

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tell me if you want admin rights, had no time after all to clean up / optimize things there. More or less, write the text in markdown, or use what ever you like. Real articles are rather written in Markdown on github - and forum discussions will be blend in underneath. Anyway, go ahead. Just saying

admin rights=moderater?

can i have that role for here, have some ideas for "discussion" pages to make, and i have plenty of time to burn on answering questions (and stop raids, do those happen on this server lol)

Ok so did you...

4:11 PM

ok

4:13 PM

I've had enough... @Deleted User

feel free to mess around

there are backups

You will be dissapointed

jk

I am actually quite happy with the work you've done in some places - it can only get better

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https://forum.precious-plastic.org/t/pizza-baker-plastic-recycle-machine/100

Pizza Baker: Plastic recycle machine

Hello, recyclers! I and a few other people have the idea of a pizza baker recycle machine. This is like a combination of a sheet press, compression machine, and extrusion machine. Basically there is a conveyor, a heating system, a roller, and a cooling system. Here is the...

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@Eric Lotze https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/pizza-baker-another-machine-to-recycle-plastic/

bottom link seems to be broke, top one works

Works for me, I think it needs to be moderated.

4:58 PM

@Eric Lotze got the message

i'm going to test some bot command stuff (edited)

6:15 PM

watch out

6:16 PM

!roles

6:16 PM

guess we don't have that bot

looking into discord bots rn

Ok

would we want to add a bot for roles

4:01 AM

granted i don't know what we currently use

I had an idea of a bot that can:

4:07 AM

• Report missing parts in the download kit

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• If "PET" is mentioned, tell that it does not work well with PP machines

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And more I guess

Hello, I'm Kevin Adair, president of FdS Haiti. We are the country's largest paper recycler, and now we are expanding into plastics with the Precious Plastics model.

5:28 AM

I have a question. From the PP4 overview video, they said that the sheet plastic machine went through a two-machine's phase: 1 pizza cooker and a separate press. I was wondering if those plans might also be available as they might work well in the factory we are developing.

Hello @Kevin Adair in Haiti , Welcome to Precious Plastic. PreciousPlastic

Sheet press is one of our newest machine in Precious Plastic, and it can make beautiful sheets. Most of us run a smaller business than your business, so most of us do not require a mass-production machine. However, I think there is a demand for you to build a more time-efficient machine. Sheet press can only make one sheet at a time, and that is the con-side of the machine. It is not very time-efficient. Some of us here have the idea of Pizza-baker machine but for plastic recycling. I will share some info about that.

5:36 AM

@Eric Lotze see, there is a demand

5:38 AM

There is no blue-prints, price of materials. But buying a pizza-machine should make us step-forward.

5:38 AM

Do you want to be the first one to try? We will support as much as possible.

So you are using an actual pizza oven?

No, no-one tried building it because this idea came up yesterday.

I saw it in the PP4 video.

It's fresh

5:41 AM

No, that one is different.

5:41 AM

You are talking about this one.

A two stage option was shown as one of the developmental processes on the way to that one.

Heating and cooling right?

one for heating and one for pressing

5:42 AM

In the video, they said they were too big. But we have lots of room

But this machine can not run continually. That is the con-side

5:43 AM

You can only make 3-10 (unknown) sheets a day.

5:44 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrLkySbOIkA

Vollrath Foodservice

Vollrath Digital Conveyor Pizza Ovens - Operating Instructions

5:44 AM

It's like this except for a different purpose

5:44 AM

Some hacks should make it possible.

5:47 AM

Do you want to be the brave-first one to try? We would appreciate it.

These are the two big machines I'm talking about

5:50 AM

Our Haiti location can certainly be a bigger scale testing ground. We have tons of plastic, and very little is recycled. Almost non in Haiti.

5:50 AM

*none

That can only process some and might not be enough to clean up Haiti.

Well no, but it would be a place to start.

5:51 AM

I like the two-phase version better than the one phase.

5:52 AM

If no one is using those two big machines, could we buy them to use them as examples? Are they in Europe?

5:52 AM

We want to build machines in Haiti but we want to import them first.

You need a shredder too.

Your biggest shredder, extruder, injection, and sheet press

5:54 AM

Right. We want the biggest ones of each, and we need a budget.

5:54 AM

With the price of oil dropping, there is even less market for overseas sales

5:54 AM

Meanwhile we need everything in Haiti, especially jobs

I think you are the biggest in Precious Plastic.

Well, great.

5:55 AM

We have a fully open shop, and we love visitors

5:55 AM

We are contractors for the US Embassy, the Canadian Embassy, the UN, the World Bank, among others.

5:57 AM

We are also talking with Matt and Robin from 4Ocean. Their plastic comes from the sea.

5:57 AM

We have unlimited source material and we need the biggest equipment.

It would be a challenge to make this a success, but we would all benefit from it.

Here's a radical idea: Anything we could design to be powered by biomass instead of electricity would be better. Everything is generator power. We make ultra-efficient biomass gasification stoves.

5:59 AM

We could work together to make a pizza-oven style design that was off grid and melted the plastic with agricultural waste.

6:00 AM

Just operating in Haiti is a challenge. Working together on this would be comparatively easy.

6:01 AM

We need to make lots of sheets. The kids in Haiti need school desks.

Would be amazing.

We have lots of HDPE and LDPE, there is some PP as well.

That's good.

Most of the PET is already being exported, so we would focus on the other types.

I think PP can do their best in that.

I think there is more HDPE.

6:03 AM

Oh, we come upon ABS sometimes too.

HDPE and PP works very well with Precious Plastic machines.

6:04 AM

ABS can work well sometimes.

Great. It's all being exported at this point. We have tons in storage. More is being collected in Haiti, and more is being pulled from the sea.

How would you like to start?

There are huge amounts of funding available. We have all the key in country partners lined up.

This is going to be a history of PP.

6:06 AM

There is one collection point in Haiti. Perhaps you can contact them.

6:06 AM

Open-sourced blueprints for civilization

I need the biggest machines that you have. I need them already built so we can import them. and I need to figure out costs including shipping and customs.

6:07 AM

Yes. We need to be on the map too.

From USA too?

There is more than one collection point. There are many. But only one on your map so far.

You have contact list?

Yes. I'm in Chicago now. I hope to be back in Haiti in July.

6:08 AM

Yes. Do you know Plastic Bank?

No, sorry I have never heard of that.

6:08 AM

There are a lot of machine builders around you.

No worries, they operate several collection points in Haiti. They want to be one of our many Haitian suppliers.

Are they PP collection points or other?

We have so many sources, but no one is doing anything with the plastic domestically.

If not, we can introduct PP

6:09 AM

So you will.

6:10 AM

Amazing

Yes, we want to be a strong long-term partner in Haiti, and we will get the other operations in your network too.

You have several options to get a machine.

We also operate in the Dominican Republic, but Haiti is our testing ground for new ideas.

•Buy on bazar

6:11 AM

•Make one

Right I saw

•Machine builder can make one for you

6:11 AM

We also operate in the Dominican Republic, but Haiti is our testing ground for new ideas.

@Kevin Adair in Haiti ok

You will be one of the closest one to recycle industry in PP

We already recycle tons of paper and cardboard every year.

6:13 AM

But plastic is such an issue in Haiti. It is time to go large scale.

I am so glad that you found precious plastic.

We get one location going, then we can copy the machines locally

6:14 AM

I've know about you for at least 3 years.

6:14 AM

But we were not at this expansion point yet

We will help

6:15 AM

Most of us scratch their head on funding.

So, I would like a budget for your biggest machines, and where they will ship from.

6:15 AM

We have funding sources lined up.

6:15 AM

Once we do it with you, then you can follow our model.

Sharing back huh?

6:16 AM

Nice

In countries like Haiti, there are millions of dollars in dedicated funds that go unspent because no one steps up to correctly ask for them.

6:16 AM

It's not just Haiti, but Haiti is the best example.

oh

6:16 AM

?

There is lots of money available for some countries in Africa too.

@Frederik C (ZA)

6:17 AM

Nice.

6:17 AM

How much space and budget do you have?

Yes, our project was awarded the IDEAS award from the IADB for the entire Caribbean.

6:17 AM

Well things should scale up.

6:18 AM

We have a 3 phase generator.

6:19 AM

We have a concrete floor, and we are adding a roof. It's about 25meters x 35 meters

Sorry, I will be offline for a few minutes.

6:20 AM

Other folks will help you.

We would like a budget in the US$70,000 range for the first factory set-up. That should include shipping and customs, so maybe $45,000 of equipment?

That's a lot of money:)

Great, and we don't need a generator. We have one and we have a back-up

6:28 AM

We get grid power, but only about 4 hours per day when it is working.

6:29 AM

Yes, so if you could help me put together a budget in the $45,000 range for your largest scale machines, then we will add shipping onto it. We will get it submitted, and if it's approved, it could be moving our way within a few months.

6:29 AM

So, are the big press machines available?

6:31 AM

These are in the video, but not listed as for sale anywhere.

6:31 AM

6:33 AM

I'd like your largest shredder, extruder, and injector. Then, I would also like this two-phase plastic-sheet set

6:34 AM

I have machine-shop builders. But they are more successful if they have an example than if they build from plans alone.

I will be offline for a next couple minutes. Sorry.

Anyone in the Virginia, USA area out here? Looking to build a motivated team to help with a processing center. Let me know.

@Kevin Adair in Haiti Let's calcurate the costs!

8:30 AM

DM me in Discord and I will send you a link of a calcurator.

@Lazy_Turtle , it will not work if you don't compress the plastic. Air will stay in it, the plastic is viscous it might go on one side or another of the mould. I doubt that with the thermal inertia of plastic your conveyor belt can go slow enough. In my opinion it is very energy inefficient thermically too. (edited)

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland how much does it need to be pressed? How much pressure?

12:31 PM

I can't type much because I am on a phone

For a pizza-sized tray I would say minimum 5t distributed. I would go for 10 to be sure

Do you think a roller would work to give enough pressure?

12:33 PM

Or a conveyor above conveyor?

12:34 PM

Like this？

Well that's basically like a metal mangle. I use that, it works for thin stuff but if you want to be energy efficient you are better off putting an extruder then rollers and you are back to an industrial setup. I am trying to deal with rollers at the moment and it is not trivial. If you want 20t without flex in it there is quite some thinking to be put in

I have a lot to take away from you. I will contact once I get home

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland How about this? Do you still call this industrial or not?

2:09 PM

Still industrial?

How energy efficient is the extrusion compared to pizza?

2:39 PM

Do you know the ratio?

Along the lines of power generation, you should check out OSE

3:34 PM

Copyed message for info:

3:34 PM

Basically a group dedicated to making all the open source hardware needed to build/run a small town/farm. Complex to explain so perhaps watch the ted talk and check it out? Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page

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3:34 PM

ANYHOW

3:34 PM

the main option would be the thermo-electric gassifier stove

3:34 PM

and the steam engine

3:34 PM

the stove is working, the steam engine is still in development

I will check it out.

lots of people talking about needing plans, where do we post the CAD and how can we make it easier to find for new people?

@Deleted User has a site. https://precious-plastic.org/pp/

plastic-hub/preciousplastic-meta

Precious Plastic Library Latest release v4.19.1

can we put it on the "start-here" page?

Don't think so. I have no permission to do that.

4:02 PM

How is your bot doing? !Missing file

4:02 PM

like that?

i have no permission for anything, so i guess i am waiting for someone with power to respond?

I don't know:(

Questions about changes to / performance of the forum / Discord should go in #deleted-channel. Mention [@]

v4-team if you think it is urgent. They are using a version of YAGPDB bot. Most of its settings are not configured. It only controls the auto-role assignment in the #🖐start-here menu.

@Eric Lotze : there is a little contribution guide soon but first things first, I am not related with PP central and my team (and quite some others) strongly disagrees with most what they are doing to the project, others (and themselfes). That are numerous disputes which they´re just not interested to fix, no matter the urgency or impact. However, us, ´PlasticHub´we´re working on a kind of fork since recently. We still post this under the name 'PreciousPlastic' (Better 'PP Unofficial', that's why precious-plastic.org), not 'PlasticHub' or such since this is an entire different project. So please, if you want changes, fixes for PP, etc.. you can mostly forget about having PP Central doing anything about. Instead, tag us, we put it in the fork. It will take some time that this page gets recognition and traffic but usually not longer than 6 months. For now, please send me your details, I am adding you to the new system. (edited)

I often wonder what @🤙v4-team is going to do with PP Catalonia's disingenuous and degrading use of all of the platforms they've set up to deflect interested parties to his own rip copy of their work.

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easy said, we keep moving working

6:15 PM

We're mainly focused on satisfying consumer needs - sorry that the project went bigger than them - or they can handle - we offered our help numerous times but we can't even get small improvements, fixes in the site. And yes, not having all PP machines listed on the official page or simple tools to collaborate is very degrading for the project. (edited)

6:16 PM

I am also looking at all the potential contributors, or folks who'd wanted to help : all trolled away, or lost with insufficient tools. That's a huge set back, there was no need

They always intended a movement "bigger than them" which is why you using it like a parasite to collect for your own needs is so harmful.

that's insult, I hope you correct and apologize ; check out github contributions, ask our clients, they're all very happy for the same reason : we take this serious, and to the next level

6:19 PM

what's wrong making it better ?

6:19 PM

obviously you don't want to hear 'better' ...

Copying the name as close as you can too purposefully confuse, linking to your own site when people ask about actual PP docs, diverting those contributors and telliing them PP isn't interesting in them.

6:20 PM

You aren't the one making it "better"

lol, we're publishing fixes, folks are happy; traffic speaks for it own

6:20 PM

'Precious-Plastic Unoffical', happy ?

6:20 PM

Now please stop trolling ok ?

You thumb your nose at PP and yet you need to stay here and poison the well. Its a shame. Calling out a person who works against so much good here isn't trolling.

Now please upload your work, and help the project instead.

calling PP corrupt, yet creating any way gain exposure from their platform is pretty troll tho.

Ok, that's enough - please proceed with your allegations with real facts via DM; we can backup all with facts - no interested to go down on it again.

It's all here in Discord, what you do. Easy to see every day.

Look, there was another contributor - I told him how this works - here ; and where to help instead - that's it (edited)

nah, you lied to him about PP, that isn't how this works.

6:27 PM

you denigrate them every day here and someone should do something about it.

oh really, did you wrote small fixes and tried to get them as PR into the system ? Did you check the entire forum and counted how many good authors we've lost because simple one hour fixes couldn't be added ? Sorry matte, I am around long enough to see exactly what's going on. But hey, I am no long complaining; I am trying to make the best out of it

6:30 PM

And please stop your accusations, insults and plain lies, that's defamation - and I am not interested to get here all up again -

6:30 PM

but no worry- I am summarizing all on github for you instead again, ok ?

Everyone here can see that 1) you've made sites that clone the name 2) you talk about how badly PP is run 3) you divert people to your own site instead of the the real links they ask for on PP

1) : Dave gave his ok, it's about precious-plastic, it's for precious-plastic, it's from PP people 2) they admit it them self 3) we publish updates and contribute, where is your contribution ?

6:33 PM

So pleasse, stop accusing , lying here around ?

So you don't admit you call PP corrupt?

6:34 PM

or send links to your own site?

it's corrupted, you want me to explain it again ? we link to pp.com as well

yeah, so I know what you mean, why is PP corrupt? And why do you need to use names so close to the project?

6:35 PM

and why do you link to your site instead of what people ask for on Community?

Sorry, but obviously you don't seem to have the slightest glue - nor you're actually interested to make things right or good. Links again : pp.org is a well know and established site / directory for PP - there is nothing wrong linking to it

6:37 PM

we do this work since long - and there thousands of folks being happy about ; traffic speaks for it's own

6:37 PM

So if PP central can't satisfy user needs, don't attack the folks who do, ok? (edited)

6:39 PM

There is also PP App, Library, Explorer, and Factory - clear that this needs to go together - that's work which worth a quarter million looking at the work end resources putting behind. (edited)

I think you understand that speaking so badly about a project you're supposed to be supporting is harmful to the project our at least your input to it.

Also with that Dave had no problem - it was basically agreed

6:40 PM

I am fighting and working for the project - we have as said only disputes with a few decisions and weird folks

6:40 PM

Things you can also DM me (edited)

The issue is you attack the main project, and uplift yourself as superior.

that's bs

6:41 PM

utterly bs

6:41 PM

Please dont make things private in DM. I am all for open discussion, no matter how sensitive the topic is

6:41 PM

you still didn't get anything

6:42 PM

But obviously you're out of arguments and facts since long, so please : upload your work to the directory instead; folks need it

You keep repeating that, like that is the only contribution that matters to you.

I am too busy fixing PP, indeed - so if you have something you want to add (not remove) - please do

6:44 PM

Let me update https://github.com/plastic-hub/preciousplastic-meta , add some more facts and details for you ok ? (edited)

Reviews, blog, stats, status quo. Contribute to plastic-hub/preciousplastic-meta development by creating an account on GitHub.

Don't try and fix what isn't broken

Tell that the hundreds of clients we have on the phone

6:45 PM

And sorry, we serve a different audience - for some good reason though

Sounds like you don't know our audience or the expansive interest in actual PP

https://github.com/plastichub is the fix and it paid out very well, not just for us

6:46 PM

i know very well, please read the meta repo

I am having so much trouble finding a motor, gearbox and possibly VFD that will run off a standard power outlet. I have built the basic shredder. Uugghh Australia.

Ok folks, it's sunday - thanks for ruining it for me - I just got PP Explorer on tracks

6:47 PM

lol..

6:47 PM

after 6 hours of coding I have to listen to your #$%^#$%^ @CitSciWorkshop

Just figured you need to hear the impact of fellow people who watch how you treat a platform that seems to have brought you so much success.

now please troll off o, would you ?

6:48 PM

I am confused. is plastic hub precious plastic? (edited)

6:49 PM

or visa versa?

6:49 PM

no,

Nope, basically a rip of renders from the main site and a loose hodge podge of ideas he's stored from community.

oh

6:49 PM

plastichub = umbrella project for PP activities

confusing how its presented on here, right?

yeah its a bit weird...

6:50 PM

ie: precious-plastic.org = community curated main directory for PP, discussed with Dave as well : https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/

PlasticHub

Library - Precious Plastic Library

precious plastic machines tutorials shredder extrusion injection bazar wiki filament mold molding

6:50 PM

around 1000 users each find there help and, updates, etc..

6:50 PM

@CitSciWorkshop : stop trolling, stop lying

6:50 PM

I assumed "PP" in the name was a indication that the user is a PreviousPlastic.com member

6:51 PM

that's right

its weird how he scraped the code from the sites and stored it on his github too.

scrape ?

6:51 PM

can stop bss others here please ?

6:51 PM

it's just not true, there is insane work from others there too

6:52 PM

If I register precious-plastic.net, can I redirect all questions in your absence regarding precious-plastic.org to my new site?

6:52 PM

just to make it even more confusing

6:53 PM

as said again : precious-plastic.org is since long there, as directory, community portal, long discussed also with Dave. And again, it's helping thousands each month

6:53 PM

so thats a yes?

6:54 PM

If you have the slightest idea what work really means : no, we do original work - not just copy - https://github.com/plastic-hub/ | https://github.com/catx23 to get an idea what work really means

6:55 PM

precious-plastic.net i don't about this

6:55 PM

I never said copy

Like, I wouldn't want to tolerate you using my site or my platform if I found this in your code.

that's a sad todo indeed

6:55 PM

and I can prove it

So, I'm not lying when I say you call them corrupt.

can we take a step back and try to see what this is all about

6:56 PM

no need for flamewars

no, I say it indeed - if it would be otherwise, I wouldn't bother -

6:57 PM

And it's not just me btw.

Catalonia needs to stop treating PP like trash while continuing to denigrate them and confuse their work.

6:57 PM

sounds easy, you'd think.

really, who's being treated like shit here since so long ?

6:57 PM

I dont think anyone is against plastic-hub, or the new designs being built from the fork. Its the negativity on an already existing platform, against a group of people.

i think we need to find the core "wrongs" they are saying are there, see if they ARE there, then do something if need be

we made our points - since long

so @Deleted User what do you think is the current "issues" in bullet points please

You'll find the PP @🤙v4-team active and adapting to the climate as they can.

let's hear what they have to say first

oof, they've been there.

6:59 PM

look in feedback

but as always, we've been spit on, cheated, defamation - ... last year we had to pay in the 5 digit range for half criminal smear campaign; Anne is still paying for it

are we going to yell back and forth, or state our problems and figure something out

criminal smear campaign?

7:00 PM

@Eric Lotze , @Deleted User - would be great to this now - all together - @CitSciWorkshop seems to troll just around and won't tolerate other than his or his buddies views

Treat PP with respect if you're going to use their platform, they owe you nothing.

long story , very long story - just the tip

7:01 PM

We love PP -

7:01 PM

that's the problem maybe - we're not just here to cash in patreon

7:01 PM

@Deleted User what is this 5 digit smear campaign?

i just want to know the timeline of events, and the broad issues (documentation, money, ?) in full

@Deleted User : tell you later

not the 1 sentance back and forths

7:02 PM

start at the beginning

@Deleted User is there something about this on github?

7:02 PM

I am out - what sick bs again from the eindhoven buddies

7:03 PM

sorry guys, working here 12/7

I agree with CitSci, if you are going to shit talk PP, then don't use their platform to do it

we don't shit talk PP, we have disputes with some of the works and decisions, has nothing to do with PP

7:04 PM

you're funny, we have 500+ PP clients

7:04 PM

and around 20 + projects here and there

i just don't know the issue

7:05 PM

all i am hearing is references to the issue

7:05 PM

what is going on?

I want actual information

I n d e t a i l

not just half statements

7:06 PM

best is to forget about - you don't want the truth - I have even very sad things told from PP volunteers on site and insiders; it's extreme sad, and complex. I was just stupid enough to fight against (edited)

i do though!

7:06 PM

if i ask for the story, give me the damn story

so.. you arnt going to tell us?

otherwise it doesn't exist

it's really too sad, best is to focus on PP contribs - we take it's seeing the light

the whole anti-vax bit isn't exactly adding to your credability

7:07 PM

so give me some damn info

i am not anti-vax

7:07 PM

let's chat later next week

to me this sounds like you dodging questions

it's too big for a chat

no it isn't

7:08 PM

t r y m e

@Eric Lotze when you find out the story, can you document it please. This shouldnt be that hard to squeeze out information (edited)

or else i am assuming you are some conspiracy nut

I just want the information

proof, or i assume you are lying

and as said, I've just got 6 hours coding at sunday after me - we have no life anymore, next week ok ?

7:09 PM

doing a dossier on it was anyway missing

also who tf are the mods

I would also like to know more. Seems to me that as much as possible should be at the main site. Having unofficial sites just confuses people

if the group isn't working, forks can make sense

7:11 PM

my issue is just

7:11 PM

i am not hearing the "why" or the "drama"

7:11 PM

just back and forth insults

7:11 PM

no official response

7:11 PM

just nothing

@CitSciWorkshop is just trolling around - as usual

the point of an arguement is to reach a conclusion

Group works fine, we have no issue hosting our own documentation on our site until built to submit. It's the copying.

7:12 PM

I'm just calling our your behaviour.

so it is an issue over documentation?

I put this in the dossier, there are just too many points

you keep on saying that, but i want the damn points, even if it is 50 fucking pages

7:13 PM

otherwise i WILL assume there is nothing

Remember we are all here to work on the same goals. Our course there will be disagreements about how to get there and that's ok. A good open source community has a diversity of opinions :)

and you are just doing that tactic

thanks @Joseph

I don't mean to start an argument, but it seems to me that @CitSciWorkshop raises some valid questions, doesn't seem like trolling to me

that all of those consiracy people do where there is always "proof" and it is just "somewhere else"

https://github.com/plastic-hub/preciousplastic-meta/blob/master/todos.md

7:14 PM

I can get this signed by many if you need

7:15 PM

that's just the tip - i don't wanna bother about the past, really - just wanna move on

So am i correct that the issue is: - Documentation being incomplete/not public, The Bazzar being overpriced

yes/no

and the page needing work

somewhere in between, it's really complex

ALRIGHTY]

7:16 PM

now we are getting somewhere

I'm just stating the issue that 1) Catalonia denigrates and demeans the PP project, calls them corrupt and that needs to stop, 2) needs to differentiate and stop diverting people to copied resources on his own site when community links should be used.

@Deleted User thanks for the link, a lot of the requests seem to be very valid :)

so do you @CitSciWorkshop not think there are documentation issues, cost disparities, or website inefficiencies

@CitSciWorkshop : I decided to ignore you just - you still don't understand OS, forks, updates, and real work either

let me handle this

Thanks for letting me know I don't understand.. smh

welcome

7:18 PM

hot take: @Deleted User is currupt. I love @Deleted User

chill

7:18 PM

still waiting for

7:18 PM

citsci's

lol, same ideology

response to my question

I belive that PP has enough going and working on improvements that they don't need someone saying, "fix this or else I'll yell about it"

so you do agree that those criticisms are valid though?

surely, think of kaizen in these terms, ongoing improvements are being made and I respect they they can do.

and are more so not liking the form of criticism?

nothing has been ever really fixed - no request has been taken serious, not a single actually since years, from anyone

one at a time please

7:19 PM

@Deleted User

7:19 PM

it is currently citisci's turn

I believe calling someone corrupt because they didn't pay specific attention to their issues is disrespectful and not criticism

alrighty

I would agree that "corrupt" is quite a strong word

so i am still figuring out things, but i believe their method of response may be in part due to frustration

7:20 PM

do you agree this could be true?

faking data in their own interest is corrupt

Catalonia has his own list, and because those aren't "fixed" he brandishes his own site as a superior platform.

pp shutup, i am talking with citysci

7:21 PM

wait for your turn

This is not helpful imo and creates confusion.

i agree we need a unified solution, BUT to go back to my previous question

7:22 PM

pp

7:22 PM

dont you fucking dare

7:22 PM

wait for me to finish

7:22 PM

ANYHOW

I am not sure if I understand how the structure of pp works, but isn't it possible to fix the issues on their site ourselves? Or is it only their team of web developers who has access?

do you agree that ppcat's methods could be due to frustration at changes being made slow and communication being poor? (edited)

7:23 PM

-even if you disagree with how they are communicating it, do you "see" where they are coming from

I think the frustration is evident, but doesn't justify the abuse of the platform. I don't see the range of his complaints coming from anyone else either.

wait ppcat

7:24 PM

you WILL get a turn

7:24 PM

but it is not now

7:25 PM

So you do, or do not agree with their crituques

I do not agree.

there are lots of complaints, even Dave confirmed, not just our clients or interested investors out for family, sorry mates - shit and sad story - I am very upset to get trolled

pp i will get your take, just not untill i fully understand citysci's

7:25 PM

so do you think there are no:

7:26 PM

1.) ways documentation can be improved (edited)

7:26 PM

curious, not demanding with that question

Always, and is being from what i understand. You can see work in the feedback thread as such.

So you don't like their "rude" method of criticism, but do see room for improvement in a controlled manner, to adress their complaints?

You also see people being patient and not taking it personally if their ask doesn't get top priority.

7:28 PM

I trust PP is working constantly on what they can.

alrighty

7:28 PM

i will now move on to @Deleted User

7:28 PM

SO

7:28 PM

pp-catalonia

Thanks for mediating, @Eric Lotze !

np

7:28 PM

is it accurate to say you want

7:29 PM

1. Better Documentation (as in all files, even if "incomplete" should be available)

sure, asking since long for all files

so that is a yes

7:29 PM

NOW

7:30 PM

do you also think communication both in website design, and between team members could be optimized?

7:35 PM

looking more so for a yes/no

7:35 PM

you still there?

yes but look, it's not how this works with PP central, they pop up from nowhere after years, run a hat trick , walk off, and leave most rotten for long. that's how v4 is to me, made in rush, the fixing work offloaded to others, just as with v3. Also, there is a critical mass, there are the DIY guys (PP central audience), professionals (our guys) and other sectors (also not PP centrals audience). It became really big over time. Now you won't see critics here from the pros or the other sectors, they don't even know PP per se. However, PP Central is unable to acknowledge and get all under one hat, so that's why decided to move on with the pro audience and fork it just . Also doing this on a 12/7 base as said brings a lot more issues up than the most PP trespassers would ever notice. So that's why there is pp.org, as discussed with Dave. And we make this version of PP exactly how we and others needed. (edited)

that wasn't really an answer as much as a continuation of the unhelpful flamewar of before

7:36 PM

ANYHOW

7:36 PM

i will just take that yes

7:36 PM

SO

7:37 PM

Do you think a joint wiki

I am just saying, whatever you want changed, won't be changed, not just for us

not the question i am asking

yeah, go on

do you think a joint wiki, github, and google docs folder would solve the issue of documentation, assuming we can get all the files (no matter how incomplete) posted? (edited)

7:38 PM

y/n

that's what i am doing since long already. no need to collaborate - every-time we tried, there was nothing but disappointment, at our expense. you can't fix this with logic or such

i just need a y/n

i said yes

good

7:40 PM

so @CitSciWorkshop do you think that solution would solve the issue of documentation? (edited)

7:42 PM

also assume for the point of the question it is already done/no issue (edited)

Not a safe fix. All Files are here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download two clicks into the site, and I think there aren't really any internal designs being held out. Also, help here for people is strong to figure out things as they need, no confusion needed by other sites. Maybe making a sandbox would help but releasing untested designs for anyone to try and build could be dangerous.

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

7:44 PM

again, my opinion.

Do you agree this is a full solution @Deleted User ? y/n

7:45 PM

just a y/n plz

this is plain bs just - all of it

alrighty, so followup time

7:46 PM

@CitSciWorkshop do you think a "mythbusters" style disclaimer of "don't try this at home" or "do this at your own risk" would solve the "saftey" issue?

7:46 PM

pp cat wait

7:46 PM

thx

7:48 PM

i repeat, ppcat wait

No, I think the type of vetting and testing applied by @🤙v4-team in preparation for release of V4 is optimal. Extended testing through multiple prototypes before release. They also overhauled the platform and maybe that was confusing to some, but not even 5 months in, everyone is getting acclimated and things are starting to get rolling really well.

look, I am not interested to be understood or liked by some trolls - @CitSciWorkshop or PP central has not much credibility - and we're not alone with that.

let me do my thing

7:49 PM

and if we yell above eachother

7:49 PM

how can you expect anything to be productive

7:49 PM

ANYWAYS

at a community level, by all means we share our work in progress, but that should not be treated as a go to design until we can test and vet them.

@CitSciWorkshop What do you think would happen if the wiki approach was taken?

Guys, could I ask a question? I'm not sure if it's the right time to do it.

sure

7:50 PM

PAUSE

I think it would be moderated by an official team and someone's frustrations might be continued. Reprap follows a good model for that.

for other non-rant question time

7:50 PM

what is it @Shobith | PM ?

We are trying to introduce a recycling centre in my college campus. We've currently asked quotations from nearby machine shops in India and would be pitching the idea to the government bodies for them to introduce it by them or fund us regarding it.

Alrighty, so which machines are you intrested in?

asking in #🍚india

7:52 PM

@sharma.sagar94 is your friend

Now, my question is that how do these open source communities work? Do I have to mention PP's name or send any kind of documents to you people if we are willing to do any initiatives of these kind?

7:53 PM

@Deleted User yes I've asked the quotation from @sharma.sagar94 itself

It depends on what licensing they use

7:54 PM

i'll grab some useful information (edited)

7:54 PM

also which machines are you considering getting? (edited)

it's free and liberal license, you can do whatever you want with it

Thinking of a shredder, injection, compression and also a extrusion.

nice!

7:55 PM

So one of your biggest costs will be the motors

The basic version ones for now. Considering we need to find the right stakeholders for this.

more the gearbox

another important question: what machining capabilities do you have available to you?

7:56 PM

If you have a CNC Torch Table/Laser Cutter that makes the blades, and metal parts easily diy-able

On the business side, what funding and open grant submissions are you applying to?

We have an in-house industry dealing with all kinds of CNC machines and 3D printing

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nice

7:58 PM

So the couplers, motors, and electronics seem like the main big purchases? (double check me on that)

7:58 PM

can the extruder screw be done with a cnc lathe (do you have one) ?

@CitSciWorkshop we'll be looking forward for it to making a initiative by the Government itself.

7:59 PM

I'm not aware of a CNC lathe being present. I'll look into it.

Ok, be careful. Gov't funding comes with plenty of strings , I'm sure you might know this being in uni.

What Hp motor will they need (~1hp?)

Yes totally. We'll be collaborating with already existing Plastic Handling units to provide us with all the plastics we need.

8:02 PM

My main concern would be the amount of 2,5,6 types of plastic available.

there should be plenty everywhere. Advertise to target populations for stuff, it will come.

That's something we are looking at. If we set up a recycling centre, and end up with no raw materials we kind of would get stuck out of nowhere.

Also for the presses (compression mainly, or a future sheet press) will you be using hydraulics, if so will it be a manual pump, or will a solution be needed

Thinking of a manual pump for now. It all depends on how much funding we get. Am currently working on the business proposal to pitch in the idea.

do you already have hydraulic pumps, or would all that need to be purchased

I guess if using hydraulic pumps we need to be purchasing it.

then is bar stock/sheet metal covered or will that go on the list too?

I am out - done with that. Sorry @Eric Lotze - I really appreciate your help in this matter but said, after having tried all - really, we decided to fork it just. It's best for the users, us and the project. Also we back this up with pro skills and resources wherever we can; not just the machines but also infrastructure; not paid with Patreon or such. Needless to say I guess but we do enjoy lots of confirmation and appreciation from the users and clients; most of them not here - understandable ... I'd say we're the most successful out there and we want to move on what fits best. At the end, for all the hundreds hours of support work we did - also to keep PP centrals back free, there was then nothing but hit and run defamation, insults, small or large scale, banning, etc... At the end, just one slap after next in our face. Not even a single thank you, ... So again there are 3 key audiences to be served, : DIY & youngsters, SMEs and the educational sector. Machines for the public sector are also in progress - and it's all shared back !

not done with that, we are coming back to that post shobith's questions

tomorrow, ... I am out since 6.30 on the f*** job

Guys, you can carry your discussion. I'm in no hurry.

no

IMO

you have priotity right now

8:08 PM

want to make a google document for a BOM?

@Shobith | PM you're more important, trust me.

granted i am not local so i may not be too useful for sourcing lol

Yes sounds good.

8:10 PM

That's alright. With recent scenarios we have like a project report to be made ready in the next 5 days. And there are somethings that you people can help me out. It's kind of theoritical though. But then they are asking a complete overall report regarding to it.

8:12 PM

8:13 PM

These are the guidelines I'm supposed to write a report on. These aren't something I'm ready to answer now. Could I get a hand with it? Bulletins would be enough. I can explain it later.

ABS filament would be very useful for 3d printers/print farms

8:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69aYBJfxHw0

hard to extend from PP machines rn @Eric Lotze

not sure on the specs, but shredder to lyman is an option

8:15 PM

also for simple objects injection molding can be powerful

8:15 PM

especially if cnc tooling is available

This has been discussed many times, and the general consensus among seniors has been always the same (search forum for business) : if you don't have ties with the industry or such, consider this a hobby. The machines are too limited for that.

4.3 can be explained by exploring the process of making repeatable products, thinking about how to adapt the process to make more at a time and scale.

8:19 PM

4.1 - Easy to cover by starting with the current recycling crisis, and some explanation on the "circular economy"

8:19 PM

4.2 - Make a timeline and automatically add 30% more time to it.

can we have some sort of meeting/session on this, the issue needs to be covered and i don't know where that is currently being worked on in an orderly manner?

8:19 PM

is it on the forums or something?

forum is locked

a video conference or soemething

@CitSciWorkshop 4.2 seems to be something I can do.

8:20 PM

Maybe a 50% would do no harm :)

cool, just be conservative.

I found this workflow on this discod i think the other day:

8:21 PM

Quite Interesting Technologies

Injection Molding Face Shields/ Rapid-Fire-Method/300 Face Shields ...

8:21 PM

anyone do the math?

@sharma.sagar94 will be familiar, but other machine shops will not immediately know how to build things.

essentially made the extruder do the heating work of the injector

8:21 PM

Also there is another seperate group developing a fully automatic injection molding machine, i posted about it in the google doc

8:22 PM

we can network and add that project in

8:22 PM

they did great video documentation, not much CAD/measurements

8:22 PM

but that is possibly fix-able via emails

there are blueprints for that as well : https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/projects

is that another effort by you?

as I told, we're since long making the extra effort building a library, so we don't need to repeat answers on a daily base

i was mentioning this:

8:23 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69aYBJfxHw0

Quite Interesting Technologies

Injection Molding Face Shields/ Rapid-Fire-Method/300 Face Shields ...

no - was speaking about automatic injection

wrong link

8:24 PM

https://www.youtube.com/user/AndysMachines

AndysMachines

Chronicling the exploits of a lone experimenter creating unorthodox devices in his shed.

8:24 PM

there it is

yup, that's it

8:24 PM

but this is serious pro work

so you are that youtube channel?

no, i wish

ok

8:25 PM

so they are 2 different projects

Hey guys Does anyone here import PET flakes?

PET has an issue with moisture

8:25 PM

i am looking into it

8:25 PM

but in most situations

enjoy, out for real

I have my college doing something similar related to the face shields video, @Eric Lotze just sent.

the workplace will be too humid causing the plastic to break down under heating

https://youtu.be/ZKEiHg8wDsI

Dream Works Makerspace

Face Shields for COVID19 Warriors

8:26 PM

But then they use laser cutting.

yeah, it's been amazing to see all the maker's helping out

8:27 PM

Do you want me to make that BOM google doc for you?

Certainly. We have around 20 Makerspace in India working on it as it's been made open source.

Share that to #deleted-channel too @Shobith | PM you'll find some encouraging collaborators there too.

@Eric Lotze yes would appreciate it.

8:28 PM

@CitSciWorkshop noted.

just started it, also may rename it https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHGPfDaSmbbb0EhIzr9nSNIH9PTJYX0aMXYkaEnt6XA/edit?usp=sharing

shobith PP BOM

Shobith’s Precious Plastic BOM

Lots of visor stuff in here too : https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/projects/visor | and one here as well : https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/projects/Faceshield-Plasticpreneur

I appreciate you people putting in all this effort. I've been to forum chats before but then this seems to be the most interactive ones I've been to.

@Shobith | PM we try, and thanks for being part of it. Reach out if you need anything. Happy to help.

assuming cost will be in recorded Indian Rupees (INR?)

@CitSciWorkshop to put a cap on it - yes there were frictions - it's unfix-able as we've seen since long - things got actually better though. But please don't expect me, us to stay behind something which doesn't work for us & clients, users. We progress on different levels; we enjoy a good reputation and have the means to roll out a next or different PP. Dave also confirmed and appreciated this. There will be lot's of new links coming; you like it or not. Looking at the requests for drawings, downloads, components, fixes, updates, new machines, ideas, projects, .... I think it's alright working out a system which helps everybody; especially if you do this on a daily base, here and outside. It's all OS, grab what you want - it's there to be hacked, improved,... That's also the last time I wanna ever hear about. This is a fast moving OS project, it would be pretty stupid for everybody involved to insist on a single source of 'truth'. There is much to learn from each other. To make it clear again too : PP belongs to the world, not a single group - just because they fired up discord server or uploaded some files to the cloud, period. There is also way more work involved than this: networking, sponsorship, name it.

to go back to this can we get a wiki + google file system + github (the github seems already covered) to cover the main PP work and all forks?

but thanks for all the great work !

8:51 PM

that's what I am doing : Jekyll & bunch of Typescript scripts, multilayer VFS, pulling in all sources to make the ultimate library, yes

8:51 PM

we need the library also for PP Open Factory, and some other apps, yes.

Respect the platform and stop calling them corrupt is all.

8:54 PM

and just be clear about your work vs. PP Official. Everyone can work on something together to bring things into one library, but that's a possibility to work on for the future.

whatever, by platform you mean discord & bazar and the github pages only ? there is much than this. I can have my opinion, and don't bother here saying it any longer

8:54 PM

I wish it's just an opinion btw.

8:55 PM

And also to be clear: i really don't give much about what you have to say

8:55 PM

lol

8:56 PM

as long you don't accuse us with bs of course (edited)

8:56 PM

good we sorted this out; great

also how do we keep david in the loop on this

8:57 PM

and can we have some weekely or so meeting

8:57 PM

to STAY in the loop?

trust me, nobody want's to be in that loop

Sounds like a great thing to try @Eric Lotze even if just a few people. Community driven consensus helps.

okey, have fun.

any way to @ davidhakkens? also the v4 team perhaps

Yeah "@"

As far I heard, most of the team is gone, and Dave is with his new project.

Where did you hear that?

insiders, and last notes about moving to project kamp. he has 'done' his part though. (edited)

9:02 PM

and now we build on it - great

any way we can get an official response from them?

don't bother

sigh. Yes just ask and message a team member. Tag them in Feedback, etc.

v3, v4 followups and v5 candidats, ideas,etc.. are currently collected - not just for pp unofficial (edited)

9:05 PM

@Lazy_Turtle started a document, let me find it back.

this one?

9:08 PM

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16H0LEWjMT95KbrAc_0soVdJUgps8QQ_x-LONSMkXw84/edit

Precious Plastic Universe 5.0

Precious Plastic Universe 5.0 By Ryoma Kamei (Ryoma-Recycle Naga)

yeah, still have to revise it, lot's to add after all

9:11 PM

but I have to first look at OSE and our needs, will take some time

Another Thing

How you mean that, there is a huge overlap in the tools needed, for PP, us and OSE. I consider myself a little expert in this, also watching the show here and elsewhere

stopped mid text lol

9:18 PM

getting lost in all the channels

9:18 PM

i was going to say you can use the OSE wiki to document stuff too i bet

no way, that's 1990 stuff

lol

really happy with jekyll

whats jekyll?

after tryng lots!

9:19 PM

basically static page generator with a built in wiki language.

9:19 PM

requires near no coding, but i generate most from templates with scripts - very very powerful - good bye bloody database crap (edited)

9:23 PM

here an example : https://precious-plastic.org/pp/machines/elena.html , will interlink components, CAD, 3d explorer, issues, discussion sometime soon

9:24 PM

the system has also to output same content but differently for newsletters, product description for sales platforms, manuals, name it.

9:31 PM

here are just a few of the source / target platforms for a piece of content produced in a little project, SME : https://github.com/plastic-hub/lang.

was it said that Catalonia's .org site gets 1000's of people on it?

And, the very system is going to reflect what I've seen here, in the forums, the wiki,... It's quite challenging to combine OS with a blend of commercial sources btw. Other sub systems as podcasts (vlogs) are a little more easy to add. With some luck PP App will not just feed the library but also a database to locate top polluters, areas,... much to go

9:41 PM

@CitSciWorkshop , not on the new system yet, more on the old https://precious-plastic.org/library/machines/, folks mostly looking for components and new machines as said

9:43 PM

some day we merge this all in one thing I hope

9:44 PM

I had also another project called PP Search which was there to assist folks in finding components in the BOMs, dropped it - had no time but idea was to curate user popular searches.

9:45 PM

Ah, and lots of traffic finding low cost machines btw.

9:46 PM

have a nice sunday, thanks for your time

ah, so what traffic comes to that last link?

around 10-20% search, 40% forum, and the rest is mixed, social, bazar (also other vendors).

#'s?

I'm having some major issues with the align tool in f360, can anyone help?

can you rephrase ?

9:49 PM

@evanh3103 : sure

@evanh3103 This was my fave video on getting align to work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87o99yDx1Ig

John Hackney

Autodesk Fusion 360 Align Tool

I did try watching that earlier and it wasn't too helpful

is it the grouping or making the translation affect the right objects?

dont show him solidwork mates, porn

I made the exact same aligns yesterday, but now they won't work. For example, I align a t nut to the spot on the back of a linear rail where I want it, it shows that it will go exactly where I want, then when I hit ok it translates somewhere else random

group it as component, try again

it is a component already

okeey, screw Fusion360, the earlier the better

(edited)

I prefer it, I am a student and my school uses it, so it is just more convenient for me anyway

right, sorry

good workflow with CAM extensions too.

yeah, the only reason

Our Workbee does well with it.

I use the CAM all the time as well as I recently bought a workbee too, after meeting the Ooznest team at Makers Central last year

@evanh3103 Maybe try removing previous groupings and re-applying them in order before using align. I know it might sound like extra work. Also, maybe copy this and try so you don't lose anything.

how do I go about doing that, I'm quite new to Fusion

I believe you can right(?) click the items in the tree and copy them.

9:58 PM

then drag or translate them off of the assembly to troubleshoot the align tool.

this is ridiculous! I just started recording a video to show the issue, then the problem resolved itself and it aligned perfectly

10:00 PM

I still have another alignment issue, could I send you a video to see if you can help?

It sensed your willingness to expose the error and self corrected for fear of obsoletion.

well, I've been yelling at my PC trying to make the other issue all afternoon and it still hasn't relented

Just search for other PC's on the internet and make it jealous. It'll come around. Sure send a video link.

I'll just screen capture it and then DM you

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I have sent it, did you get it?

i’m reading and following. To be honest this kind of this discussion with PP Catalonia has been here and in the forums numerous times. Bombarding digital spaces with the same arguments, often messages are written in “we” and “everyone” where its one negative person. Thats also why I tend to not reply anymore or be very short and not get into details. Because it feels like wasting my time repeating. again. I’m happy to reply and respond to any questions you guys have or things about the future of Precious Plastic. Just not the same questions from the same person. So let me know if you want me to clear some stuff up.

We defended against trolling, that´s all.

10:22 PM

And yes, we still have the same issues

i'm just confused. Sort of got to the bottom of things, but still unsure.

me too

@davehakkens what bots are we using, and can i have some sort of mod/admin role please

and thanks for wasting our time as well btw.

don't need to be doing insults again

10:23 PM

got us nowhere

yeah

10:23 PM

just looking at facts

that goes for all of you @Deleted User included....

Anyway, we´re set I think, don´t worry - it´s gonna be fine. We understood we´re on our own with most. And sorry, taking this further, serious, etc...

@davehakkens It is unnerving to see Catalonia both using and appropriating the platform here while making accusations of corruption in nearly the same breath. He's made statements about PP that are misleading at best and does so repalestedly. How is this addressed, and what could he be alluding to?

It´s just a discord server, in the mean time, feel free to address any of the issues mentioned. Would be happy to have more time for important tasks instead. (edited)

what bots are we using, and can i have some sort of mod/admin role please @Eric Lotze YAGPDB.xyz bot, and the other question replied in #deleted-channel channel

And yes, we stand behind most, just as quite some others. ie: Taller Esferica mentioned complaints how the community is being treated. If there would be slight chance that things are moving, we´re all good.

10:33 PM

@citizensheem : you again, come with very bold claims.

10:34 PM

It´s actually sad, how many accusations we have to watch, whilst it´s so simple to address any of the issues.

Better tag the right guy, and these are all things you yourself have stated.

I understand of course the need for you to attack ´competitors´

That's a projection ad hominem at best.

10:37 PM

We aren't even in the same markets.

It´s actually weird btw. to see attacks coming when it was initially about helping a new powerful contributor on it´s way.

It is unnerving to see Catalonia both using and appropriating the platform here while making accusations of corruption in nearly the same breath. He's made statements about PP that are misleading at best and does so repalestedly. How is this addressed, and what could he be alluding to? @CitSciWorkshop

Yes, not a big fan of this negative behaviour. It's like having a party and someone comes in that hates the party. So you tell them to start their own party and focus on that. But the person just keeps coming back to the party and piss on the walls. If it was a non-digital place you would kindly ask this person to leave. But not sure how to deal with this digitally. (edited)

also just not true, and just your opinion

That's true.

10:38 PM

Many peoples opinions = a consensus.

Well, you wanna count ? All of them ?

10:39 PM

it´s not a point, the point is find a solution to live together

10:39 PM

with the disputes, and problems

10:39 PM

and you didn´t help much anywhere with it

Maybe just don't advertise such blatant disrespect and perpetuate false narratives?

I wish the facts speak different, sorry for mentioning it ?

10:41 PM

And no, there´s no disrespect, I know what this takes

10:41 PM

I lost easily 5 years lifetime with PP

10:41 PM

I guess Dave´s gray hairs can speak for that too

10:42 PM

peace please, ok ?

So it's your burden to prove then, what is corrupt?

That´s a good discussion to be continued on Github, it´s there as concrete issue in the meta repo. You should know me, I look at data and code, I can show you

10:46 PM

I have also some nice folks here, explaining the overall impacts of this sort of irregularities .. if you need.

10:46 PM

nicely, better than me - sure

You make these claims here but won't defend them.

I would be thankful to drop this ´hate´ thingy, I think thousands of hours can talk for it self. It´s not just me who´s doing his best in this and we have a lot more to do

10:54 PM

You want me to explain the default code of the bazar ? Also, there is lot´s of analyst knowledge in here, no just as PP fan but also as qualified expert for the 100Fortune companies.

10:55 PM

And trust me, I watch the stats for 30mins each day (edited)

10:55 PM

And you have no chance in there

10:55 PM

So please, move this out of Discord, no one really wants to know about !!!!

10:56 PM

you have all links

Pretty curious since this is where you make these statements. Bazar works fine, no one else seems to have an issue with it.

Ok, you don't listen at all. Fine with me, time saved.

10:57 PM

works fine for'ya, you said it

10:58 PM

I update the issues with details, again, just for you.

11:05 PM

I love this as answer, LOVE > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwGndfR4l4

Daniel Wisotsky

SLC Punk!-Posers

@Deleted User I don't mean to be rude, but sometimes you can come off as quite aggressive. I am sure this is just because you're passionate about the project, as we all are, but just think about how it can be seen by others

And while there probably is a ton of issues with PP (it's people after all, and people are quite prone to error), you have to acknowledge the good they do. The videos they have done have been extremely helpful, and they help us reach a much wider audience. So i think it is fine to critique, but remember to acknowledge the positive stuff they do as well

1+

11:08 PM

I know, I am working on that, with both eyes closed, as much I can

11:10 PM

It's all discussable, especially 'the good' part. I am probably pushing to strong, to fast, etc.. point taken

Maybe it would help if you made it very clear on the .org website how you are related to PP, because it kinda blends in with the official pp and dh website now. Like in the banner tell people you are basically a seperate organisation who has the same endgoal but different methods of getting there. You are doing great work but the v4 team also has done an enormous amount!

yup, still undecided about the how, but it's happening

Im happy to hear that.

more like as pp-explorer.io or so, will see

Why not PlasticHub.xxx? Thats your company name right

plastihub is quite a far story, no really defined yet. we need it 'pp' close, SEO wise, since it's all pp in it

@Deleted User Well,. if nothing else, it raises a valid point about open source. It can be pretty tricky when no one truly owns something that people are extremely passionate about. A lot of feelings can get mixed up. But thanks for being understanding. Again, it seems like you're doing great work, just remember to mix the valid critique with the good stuff. Showing appreciation often makes the critique a lot easier to swallow.

11:20 PM

As for the name, that is tricky

we're going to sponsor also other projects, hard to say right now

Where do you wanna go with sponsoring projects?

my plan was to take the 'negative' part out entirely, today I was just sad seeing the 2nd user burning his fingers.

But isnt that where you have to move away from right now? You have become quite big to rely so much on the pp name or am i seeing that wrong.

sponsoring, no idea yet , more meeting soon with others - we have to figure to make this sustainable, whilst producing on the side.

11:25 PM

@Jonatan | NL possible, we´d like to keep the DIY, EDU, SME triangle mix as key corner stone, whilst offering a ready to go copy & paste template, as PP tries, just at a bigger scale. It´s possible we finish this prove of concept by the end of the year and then go our own ways. also, very difficult to say right, I am taking in new projects as I drop them.

@Deleted User any solutions to my fusion issue?

The 1st draft of the system and data will be in for PP alone. After that, we might re route, yeah

11:26 PM

@evanh3103 no, sorry. share the file, record a short video, share it here. In Fusion >> File -> share public

will do ASAP

11:28 PM

fusion is just bugging out and has frozen

Oké

@evanh3103 , "OBS Studio" is a good recorder

is fusion cloud based? (edited)

I stream with OBS an awful lot as my school has an eSports team and I am head of streaming/production

11:34 PM

https://a360.co/3fBjUxc here is the link

11:35 PM

11:36 PM

I want to align that t nut with the hole on the bottom of the linear rail, but it ends up somewhere different to where the align command says it will

our new support guy @CitSciWorkshop might look at it first

he had a look earlier and wasn't too sure about it]

Been here a while.. lol

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@evanh3103 ok, goes on me, tomorrow morning. ping you via DM

alright

@evanh3103 are you syncing to anything?

unless fusion is doing something behind my back, then no

I only see that type of thing when an operation isn't committed, or when a thing fails to sync, like to a cloud.

@CitSciWorkshop could you try and test my file to see if you can make it work

yeah, dm'ing

Does anyone have any experience with cheap AliExpress digital callipers? Accurate in comparison to Amazon counterparts?

any of the nearby 20$ calipers are ok for the 0.1mm jobs, trash or clean them each 3 months, and/or get the real thing for 150$, ´mitutoyo´ caliper, making quite some waves in the shop, in the 0.01mm range :-). ideally you have one for each kinda job, one for precise, one for the dirt work.

12:27 AM

hm, wont be getting heavy/dirty use so I should be fine with a cheap one

does anybody know where can i get the dave hakkens font?

1:27 AM

The handtwritten sans serif https://davehakkens.nl/projects/mysansserif/

Dave Hakkens

My Sans-serif - Dave Hakkens

I like personal hand written texts. But I also like functional good readable computer fonts. I wanted to use the best properties of each method. I created a new personal font Read more...

assuming cost will be in recorded Indian Rupees (INR?)

@Eric Lotze yes totally.

@Jacobo I will send it to you

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@Jonatan | NL : I appended 'Unofficial' in all systems for now

@evanh3103 : I tried your file but the block you want to align is missing

Hi everyone! I'm building a sheetpress but the cooling cycle seems pretty long. I plan to have fans for the first generation to cool the cooling press platens. Do you have an idea how long it takes to cool a plate in the press if it has 1/4inch, (6mm) for example. I would like to figure out how many plates I can produce per day. Thanks

@Donald_Stim Precious Plastic HQ already has those machines.

3:39 PM

inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thhHoPJ6Y14&t=454s

Precious Plastic 4 - Fully explained

3:39 PM

In "machines" they mention it.

3:40 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNG2f_hKc_A

3:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwNW8XOjBP0

3:41 PM

Cold press exists.

How energy efficient is the extrusion compared to pizza?

@Lazy_Turtle Heating up into a confined space and dynamically producing will always be more efficient than an open system trying to heat up a large mass simultaneously. The industry mainly use extrusion to put the plastic in fusion, there is a reason

Oh ok. Quick drawing coming...

A green arc is to prevent heat loss.

5:10 PM

How effective is that?

5:12 PM

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland if needed a belt-converyor might work?

Does PP machines work with nylon PA materials?

It's possible in theory, but don't know if it works with PP machines or not.

@PP Nigeria I have heard nylon is hard to work , you have to make a yarn and as far as I know nobody does it. i could be wrong

5:36 PM

@Lazy_Turtle I don't understand the green arc thing

Like a tunnel.

5:36 PM

Green is just to contrast.

5:36 PM

A metal cover to prevent heat loss.

ok

How effective is it? Can you estimate?

but pizza convection oven are heating from the top right? i don#t know how it is made

It is just a design from pizza oven. Does not have to be a pizza oven ofcourse.

5:38 PM

The crucial part is the belt conveyor.

If I was to make it energy efficient I think I would go Flame thrower style, gas heated pulsed air or the sort.

That is wild.

I don#t think you can make it energy efficient as the whole structure will conduct heat

5:40 PM

What is generally done is extrusion in front of a conveyor system

5:40 PM

You only heat up a tube

5:40 PM

then you pull with the conveyor

Would that work? Some cons?

That's basically how sheet plastic is made industrially

When you said Industrial I got a negative feeling.

5:41 PM

Is it bad going industrial? Just interested.

no I just say that because that's many many people working on this problem with lots of money and that#s the design kept

But no-one has done that right? Pizza?

I consider PP hobbyist/ craft people

5:43 PM

Do you know how records are pressed?

Don't know

well basically you get a lump of melted plastic

5:44 PM

you put it into a press

5:44 PM

and you cut the edge

Not possible with PP?

possible

Yeah, why no-one is trying?

You have to get a crazy hydraulic press

Or did someone try?

Yeah, why no-one is trying?

@Lazy_Turtle I wanted to do that but what is expensive is to make the "master"

5:45 PM

The master is basically a plate of steel which has the negative of your record# (edited)

Would be great if we can find an alternative to hydraulic press.

5:46 PM

...and master if possible

5:46 PM

Precious Plastic workspaces can vary depending on their location and needs. My opinion.

5:46 PM

It's flexible.

5:47 PM

@Kevin Adair is starting a workspace with a funding from us government (I think)

5:47 PM

in Haiti.

5:48 PM

It's definitely not a hobby. It's a business.

I know my company is a business but it is craftwork

Not after there is pizza press?

Mass production from small workspace?

If it's possible...

I am working on it

5:52 PM

but I regret I didn#t study more industrial setups as I have wasted a lot of money even if learned a lot

Maybe I should

5:53 PM

More production would allow us to be more profitable.

5:55 PM

Maybe I should consider this as an attachment to an extrusion. Not a single machine.

well that#s not necessary true If you fill a need and create unique things you can increase your price. Doing tailored things is the strength of PP compared to the industry. you have a great role to play by offering custom products to people at affordable prices. Instead of making blending products in which the sticker has more value than the rest

5:57 PM

There is a long way to go to move away from mass production. PP has a role to play. If not I would not do it

Ok

5:58 PM

I need a comparison between sheetpress and pizza press. I should make a calcutation.

But yes I am working on a conveyor belt in relation to an extruder

5:59 PM

but first you need to make a die that is in the PP spirit

5:59 PM

then you need a cooling system

5:59 PM

for the die

5:59 PM

and a bath

5:59 PM

then conveyor system to pull the plastic out of the die

5:59 PM

and a cutter...

Hmmm

6:00 PM

But I still think there is a demand on researching it.

6:01 PM

@Kevin Adair Is planning to supply desks and chairs for students in Haiti. Hero.

6:02 PM

And I don't know sheetpress can do fast enough.

sure, it is a lot of work. There is a Norwegian company that makes interesting chairs from ocean plastic

6:02 PM

it is delocalised but the design is good.

It just needs to be faster.

I don#t know if it is injectable with the PP system, probably too big

Maybe extrudable?

I don't believe in the sheetpress

6:03 PM

too expensive

6:04 PM

too big

Some people have budget and space???

maybe, I don#t

Is it worth getting if there are enough resources?

I don't think so but that#s my physicist approach

6:05 PM

to make art it is great, don#t get me wrong

Ok by the way when you say don't it displays don#t.

6:06 PM

That's where I am with my conveyor of thin-gauge plastic

6:07 PM

Ok by the way when you say don't it displays don#t.

@Lazy_Turtle It is because I use different keyboard setups and my brain doesn't adapt anymore, used to

Oh ok

6:10 PM

The pizza press just need to press while moving. That's all it needs.

that's a way to do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp2Rdx69SSo

Engineering219

Plastic Extrusion

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6:13 PM

How about this?

6:13 PM

The conveyor itself is hot

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland we have try to melt PA materials in our local melting pot to produce this Interlock paving Tiles

@PP Nigeria I am not a specialist, just know they have a lot of memory and tend to deform during cooling.

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Yep they are nice

6:21 PM

depends probably how much sand you put in the mix

6:22 PM

@Lazy_Turtle another video. Actually the rollers are generally cooled rather than heated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQ4PkXGUMI

wood plastic composites Machine

PVC sheet extrusion line flexible and transparent

Interesting, sorry time to go to bed. Enjoyed the discussion.

Me too, gn

@Jacobo I will send it to you

@Lazy_Turtle thank u so much

Whoop Whoop, The oven is alive!!

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11:41 PM

https://www.mtb3d.com/recycling-van-restmateriaal/

Recycling van Restmateriaal

Bij het 3D printen komt er net zoals bijna elk ander proces restmateriaal kijken. Dit restmateriaal is vergeleken met verspanende technieken vaak al een stuk minder dan bij 3D printing, maar alsnog…

So, I've noticed a distinct lack of any systems for drying plastic before extrusion. As I'm sure you're aware, some polymers are extremely sensitive to moisture content, and are basically worthless if you don't dry them, especially PET. Is there any intention to address this issue?

the 3Devo Airid is a great solution if you want something off the shelf

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I know, but it's stupid expensive

12:57 AM

I've sorted it out on my end, I'm using a vacuum chamber, but seems silly to neglect it as an essential machine in the recycling chain

shouldn´t be too hard to re-fabricate this from a barrel, a strong blower and what not, https://www.robotdigg.com/product/1380/12Kgs,-25Kgs-or-50Kgs-Vertical-Hopper-Dryer - takes hours to dry

12Kgs, 25Kgs or 50Kgs Vertical Hopper Dryer - RobotDigg

PE/PP/ABS extruder or injection molding machine hopper dryer Features: Hot air well-distribute heated wind. The heat eff...

1:02 AM

quite a project

Yeah, air based drying is really the only practical option at scale, but for smaller batches, vacuum drying can work quite effectively. Also pretty easy to make your own vacuum chamber, I made mine just using an old pressure cooker and a slab of acrylic.

well, did you try "dehumidifier diy" (edited)

1:07 AM

cool idea btw.

What you mean? I had an idea for using desiccants and trying to mimic industrial driers, but it was impractical.

electric dehumidifer might be good though..

Dehumidifiers wouldn't be terribly effective on hydrophilic stuff like PET, they tend to cool the drying side, which would discourage any vapour from offgassing out of the plastic

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1:08 AM

It'd work, but it'd be even slower than just using hot air or doing it in the oven

1:10 AM

If you wanted to use a dehumidifier the air would have to be in a closed loop, or you'd just end up drying your house. So it'd need to be refit considerably, or you'd have to dry all the air in a space as well as the plastic

put in all in a tube ?

Maybe, it'd still be slow. I did consider just using a dehumidifier at the start but I didn't really see any reason it would be faster than just using an oven in the end

right, thanks

It would serve better as an addition to a hot air drying system, ensuring the air used for drying is already pretty dry. Moisture tends to move from high moisture to low moisture areas, albeit slowly, which is part of why hot air drying works. The other is evaporating water of course, but the first effect is what gets the moisture that's stuck inside particularly hydrophilic plastics out. Hot moist air won't get anything dry

mh, was always wondering how this could work, folks keep asking

I should really make a write up on it all at some point. I tried tracking it on hackaday, but I'm shit at that kinda stuff, and I often have to drop projects for long periods due to lack of resources or money

others can try it for you, that´s PP for after all

1:18 AM

stupid little sketch could do, @Lazy_Turtle sketched something like this recently too

I meant a write-up on how to do stuff I've actually succeeded in, and how to avoid the same pitfalls I ran into

1:20 AM

Especially with the vacuum stuff. The fittings for it are dumb, they don't have a name, you have to use the refrigerant name, and I couldn't find any local suppliers. I think they're just 1/4" flared BSP connectors, but I wasn't able to confirm that

1:21 AM

But at the moment the recycling stuff is mostly on the backburner for me until I can sort out a decent shredder. The PP design is simple, but cause it's designed to be made out of sheet metal, it's a pain to service or modify.

1:22 AM

My one works, but I can't get it to shred fine enough to put through an extruder without the grating, and I can't get the mesh to stay put, partly because my frame wasn't very well designed

sounds exciting, would love to see that one day

1:23 AM

alright, we still have to find a drying solution - should be doable as addon

On another note, I took part in a webinar with the 3devo guys recently. Their materials guy said he was going to send me his study on recycling PET, still waiting for it, but I'll ask to share it on here once I get it

holy - please, yes

1:25 AM

g´nite (edited)

@MicroTransactionsMatterToo I dry in jute bag within a soft drying cupboard, costs £70 and does the job. Could probably be hacked into a hoper

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland They seem to be basically the same thing, a constant stream of hot/warm air. Main difference seems to be the size.

Hi, I am quite new here. Just wondering, where can I find information on the optimum temperature to set the PID controller on the injection machine?

Hi @bruna Details are found in the download pack. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download I will send files in a moment.

7:02 AM

Melting-Temperatures_A1.pdf

2.55 MB

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Physical-Properties_A4_1.pdf

1.25 MB

7:03 AM

Is this what you needed?

Thanks @Lazy_Turtle I am still a bit confused. If I have shredded pieces of HDPE, should I set the temperature to 130? And is this in celcius or F?

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7:15 AM

Also shouldn’t I set up the nozzle temperature higher than the tube temperature? How do I find that out?

It's in Celcius.

7:16 AM

Yeah, 130-137 is fine.

For injection of HDPE you're going to want a higher temp. Look further down the PE column where it shows a fully flowing piece. ~230C

Oops sorry

7:20 AM

Also shouldn’t I set up the nozzle temperature higher than the tube temperature? How do I find that out?

@bruna Yeah you have to set slightly higher

Ok. Another question, the machine is currently set up like this.

7:21 AM

Looks good?

Why is the temperature set in green not the same as the actual temperature (in red)

It's heating up.

One is a set point, the other is actual

But I set it to 200•C, and it is going higher to 242•C

Is it a Rex C100?

Maybe it's opposite?

Maybe it's overshooting.

Unlikely.

7:23 AM

Can be a sensor error too.

Errors in thermistors are erratic.

7:24 AM

Rex C100 PID are notorious to overshoot.

Ok I should step down and listen....

Easiest way to make the temps track together is to slowly ramp up temp.

7:26 AM

In five minutes that will start cooling to the right temp and the numbers will align better.

7:27 AM

@Lazy_Turtle No worries, but I know those PID well.

I have a lot to learn

That's a good looking injection box too, @bruna

Thanks!! I thought it is a lot of overshooting, because is quite a big difference in temperature

7:30 AM

But I will try to increase the temperature to 230

If you want to try setting lower temps, watching the heat rise and overshooting a little, then setting a bit higher temp and watch it overshoot and track those degrees you will gain a great feel for how far it will go.

7:31 AM

That way the PID will open the relay and not push so much energy into the band heaters and overshoot too much. You will know the limits.

Ok i will try that, thanks!!

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Hope it helps!

Also, one last question. How do you keep the nozzle tip closed?

7:33 AM

In between fitting the moulds in

You'd need a gate valve of some sort. For some it's a bolt in the side of a nozzle, or a sliding piece on the mold itself, or some just let it drool.

7:35 AM

What we have atm is this

Dave uses a plumbing system. Fits perfectly.

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But we are worried that is quite large, so the plastic cools down

That big green valve lever is yours, I'd think.

Yes

I hope the heat carries through your setup there. Is a thermistor below that valve?

No the heat nozzle is above that valve

Not the nozzle, the nozzle's temp sensor. Is it above too?

Yes above it

Hard to say, across the internet it's hard to judge, but you might think about moving the sensor right below that valve to have a more accurate reading of the exit temp of the plastic.

7:41 AM

Otherwise you can always open the valve and push a shot and observe the plastic output.

Ok so it the exit temp of the plastic is low i should increate the heat?

Just a bit, never over 280, that's near the max other components can take safely.

My problem is a have a big mould and the plastic is not filling it all the way through, it is clogging before. It might be because it is cooling through the nozzle before filling the mould

Ah there you go!

7:44 AM

Move that temp sensor and your readings will be more accurate. You won't need to increase heat.

It would be nice if we can make a flowchart to troubleshoot problem.

7:45 AM

Maybe we can put it in the download pack. Maybe...

Troubleshooting can be so complex. It's tough.

Need to learn more.

Does your injection sometimes try to be a volcano? Yes ---> You have Rex C100 PIDs. keep calm and stair step your temps

Needs some love.

Thats one short cycle in the flow chart..

Noted.

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland They seem to be basically the same thing, a constant stream of hot/warm air. Main difference seems to be the size.

@MicroTransactionsMatterToo It comes as an individual blower that attaches loosely onto a fabric frame. The blower could be probably piped into a hoper (edited)

You don't really need a mold.

2:22 PM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-a-face-shield-without-mould

@Mocropreciousplastic : https://community.preciousplastic.com/ | https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/projects/visor | https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/projects/Faceshield-Plasticpreneur

yes i did went trough these few days ago. We need someone to help us get the design we want in 3D after that we can give to a mold maker, and finaly to the injection company.

2:29 PM

we are looking for something like this that flip back on your head

Wait why not removing the front band and using something like a nail to attach it to the corner?

right, in that case of considering industrial injection mold, you may wanna look also for a design for protection from the top; these are the more used ones in the hospitals.

2:33 PM

here are more projects : https://forum.precious-plastic.org/t/projects-open-source/71/15

Projects - Open Source

OpenMask PAPR hood and respirator OpenMask

2:33 PM

and here : https://forum.precious-plastic.org/t/fablab-project-tracking/80/2 | not sure there is one with top protection out there.

2:35 PM

and one more : https://gitlab.com/fablab-ulb/projects/coronavirus/protective-face-shields

2:35 PM

good luck

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Hi everyone. We are working to convert SheetPress and its components to the North American Standard. We are going to build a dual system that includes the press and the cooling press on the same frame. We will add fans on the cooling press to speed up the cooling process. However, we are missing some assembly drawings. The ribs of the platens are missing on the assembly drawing. If someone could provide us with the complete assembly it would help us. Working through DXF is not very efficiant. Thanks

Hello. How can we get the plans for these 2-step sheet plastic machines? We want to do a two stage system in Haiti. Are these actual machines for sale? Where could I get them please?

5:38 PM

In Haiti, it is always easier to import an existing machine and duplicate it.

I think Precious Plastic HQ sold it to someone in a big give-away.

5:38 PM

Still worth looking at:

5:39 PM

https://www.marktplaats.nl/u/m-y/22664542/https://www.marktplaats.nl/u/m-y/22664542/

Sorry, I got an error when I clicked that.

https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/compressors/m1548963001-precious-plastic-original-oven.html?c=3c1f5dcc18d02a99040ca8de656940d2&previousPage=lr

5:40 PM

I think someone already got it. It's not listed. Only the oven is.

The little oven? It is far too small for us.

Yeah, it's gone.

What about the plans for these two units?

I checked it on Friday and someone already placed a bid on it.

5:42 PM

What about the plans for these two units?

@Kevin Adair Which one?

Can someone replicate these two units for us?

You have to find a machine-builder who can do that for you.

Right. That's why I'm asking here.

Not many is active.

I need a machine-builder who can do that for us.

5:45 PM

Who built them in the first place?

5:45 PM

Who has the plans for them?

Like the blueprints?

What is the cost to buy new ones built to the same specs? Yes, like the blueprints?

Nah discord does not accept this kind of file.

5:50 PM

#🍔north-america maybe.

Hello Kevin. We are actually working to design this 2 stages Sheet press. We design and manufacture equipment.

6:36 PM

We also add some improvment to the machine to accelerate de production time

Yes, thank you. I just sent you a direct message

6:37 PM

You might be just the team we are looking for.

6:39 PM

Could we communicate through DM please?

Hello everyone, and sorry in advance for a noob question! We are designing a small product that can be made via injection moulding. We plan to produce a medium-size batch (10-50K). We would really love to use recycled plastics for it. The question is: are there any specific considerations/ limitations to design the moulds for recycled plastics? And what be a suggestion to look for a local partner to mould the parts (we are based in the Netherlands)? Any advice is very appreciated!

I feel like if there were some backpack sized machine you could stuff bags and containers into, the thing auto shreds and melts and molds some useful ingot shape like a zip tie, people could just collect a bunch of zip ties until they have enough to make the larger part with the 3d printer or whatever it is...

8:21 PM

I feel like that would make all of it a lot more simple... accessible for others

8:23 PM

lol btw, polysterene (or whatever it is) sucks but expanded polypropolene (bicycle helmets) is very boss level... I want to know how to recycle it properly (the internet says it can be done), anybody have any ideas?

@AndreyDyachenko Recycled plastic generally similar with virgin plastic, no specific limitation to mold recycled ones. Just make sure you know what type of recycled plastic you use and actually clean the recycled plastic properly to avoid contaminants that makes the mold ugly.

10:48 PM

You can even mix different recycled plastic type into one mold and came out great, but it would be a bitch to separate the different type of plastic on future recycling. Best to not mix plastic types.

Problem with recycled plastic is still that you cant get it as transparant even if you only used transparant shredded plastic. But most of the time you dont need transparant luckily

@Jonatan | NL depends on the type of polymer used; PS or PMMA will stay transparent, whereas PP, PE or PLA won't

Hi Guys, for some reason, my newly commissioned compression oven is no longer holding its temperature.

11:57 AM

I set it to 165 but it just keep climbing and climbing. I am currently venting it to make it stay at a point. It did work for a while but now no longer. Any ideas. Has anyone used two SSR or PID on a compression oven before with success?

@CitSciWorkshop @linnto maybe something is wrong with PID.

Thannks @Lazy_Turtle Any tips to check?

@CitSciWorkshop is our PID master. Sensei.

12:16 PM

Do you have a photo of your PID controller?

haha REX-C100 I've just been reading from @CitSciWorkshop how notorious they are in previous comments

Yes... Increase the templeture slowly is the tip @CitSciWorkshop would give I believe.

i should show you a photo of the SSR i replayed today. Melted and warped. Anyone else had this. I thought this was the issue but upon replacing, same problem. Ill try step it up

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Hi! I'm so glad that I found you guys. In my quarantine time, I was coming up with an action plan that would take approximately 5 years. As I was researching, finding plastic shredders and information about plastics, I found out about Precious Plastics! You guys got to the point I had hoped to reach in only 6 years <3 Given my track record, my 5-year plan would have taken me 10 years XD I'm very happy to join the community and look forward to learning more and supporting the cause.

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Welcome maryef

1:58 PM

Hello everyone, so I'm aware countries still import PET plastic from west african countries Is anyone here interested in such a business

1:59 PM

I'm setting up a PET collection and sorting site, I'll be baling the plastics I collect, shredding and I'm hoping to met some international partners here

2:00 PM

Plastics is such a huge problem in my country, the recycling culture does not exist, so we rely on scavengers to collect plastics from local landfills

2:01 PM

With a population over 200 million people, the plastics available is overwhelming and is such a massive problem

2:02 PM

If you want some of our problematic plastic, please let me know I'll happily ship some to you lol

@Chukwuma We can't recycle PET with our machines and our technology in the meantime. If you have HDPE or PP that works well with Precious Plastic.

That's true, I have HDPE and PP too. But yunno PET is everywhere, unlike PP and HDPE that have a longer usage period

2:12 PM

Thanks tho

We look forward to develop a solution for PET in few years.

2:13 PM

You can start finding collection point here: community.preciousplastic.com/map

Theres no Precious Plastic collection center in my country I'm from Nigeria I've checked at our country group

2:14 PM

How do I setup one for my state

2:15 PM

PET is the most produced of all plastics, a solution for it should be a priority

It can be recycled and it is, it’s just not viable on these machines. It takes more specialised equipment. We all agree just it’s limited.

@PP Nigeria runs a community point(just got started) in Nigeria.

I agree, but we all to scale up some day , we wouldn't be using the same machines in 2 or 3 years time.

Japan is very professional at recycling PET.

2:24 PM

84.6% of PET bottles were recycled in 2018.

Systec Plastics at Eisfield Germany should be the highest level of recycling I've come across

Well that's not the government:)

Woah, that's amazing

ikr

2:25 PM

The government assists them big time

Green is Japan, Blue is Europe, Yellow is USA.

89.9 %

Recycle rate of everything. Not only Plastic I believe.

2:26 PM

Yes

2:27 PM

So the government is in charge of PET. in Japan.\

It's part of their culture, my professor from school studied there. Recycling begins at home. Sorting, cleaning and all

It's because Japan is an island:)

That's a government that cares about the Future of its citizens

2:29 PM

No landfill sites ?

2:29 PM

The Ocean is the number 1 dump site

Japan has the cleanest roads in the world.

Especially for Asian nations, China

China imports waste.

China stopped in 2018

2:31 PM

Malaysia is the new dump site, especially for aussie waste

2:31 PM

It's been banned to import waste into China

2:32 PM

That's why the price of PET dropped drastically, lots of businesses I know were exporting to China

Yeah it's pretty bad

US was number 1

I think you have more knowledge than me.

2:33 PM

Japan exports plastic to Indonesia and brings back recycled materials.

I doubt that, I've been doing lots of research on plastics globally that's why

and I've visited a factory in Indonesia.

2:34 PM

You still have more knowledge than me:)

Asian countries are making some effort

2:34 PM

Where are you from?

I'm from Japan.

ikr?

2:35 PM

I only know Japanese stuff:)

That's why you've been praising your countries efforts

I mean those are the only things I know.

Great work Ryoma

Japan is doing pretty good, but I don't know about other countries:)

2:36 PM

How about you?

Arigato

いえいえ。

Nigeria, we arent making half the effort here lol Private companies are trying tho

ok

I dunno what that means lol, I learnt that from an anime I used to watch

I wish if other countries had anime too.

2:38 PM

It's hard to learn other languages. I struggled on English:)

2:39 PM

Currently learning Dutch with Duolingo.

Your English is pretty good tbh, I thought you were from Europe

nah Google Translate is still my friend.

Lol

2:40 PM

Its all good

yeah

2:40 PM

Go to #🖐start-here and give yourself a role for now.

Done

2:41 PM

Arigato

Great.

2:43 PM

So you run a workspace?

2:43 PM

I thought you were collecting plastic?

I'll be collecting and processing them, I have a big place that's why

2:45 PM

Its business

2:45 PM

I'm yet to build my machines so for now its just collection

Ok

Lockdown issues

Which machine do you plan to make?

Shredder

To sale to other workspaces?

Exactly

Nice!

2:51 PM

I think you can be the first one in @PP Nigeria 's community.

2:51 PM

Maybe try DM

I've done that We are chatting Thanks for the link up

Oh nice!

2:52 PM

Good luck with that, we can help if you need something

2:52 PM

@Lazy_Turtle we have made a contract

Your chance!

I teach at a school in The Hague. Next year we will be opening a new workshop, specially aimed at engineering and more specifically recycling and sustainability aimed at children aged 10 to 16. Because our workshop is near the harbour we are looking at using waste from there. We are working on a series of tasks which we will be developing the coming period. For these tasks we are looking into buying some machines like the shredder/extruder/injection/compression and sheetpress. So we would like to get in touch with someone who could help us out. Could someone direct me to someone who could help? Thanks a lot in advance. One question I have straight away concerning a permit. Will the machine need ventilation in any way?

According to community.preciousplastic.com/map there are three machine shops near you.

4:50 PM

im looking for the set of plans for the basic shredder but can only find the laser cutting files, have i missed it somehwere?

You might want to contact with them. The one in Amsterdam is made to order, the one at the right top corner(I don't know the location) makes extrusion, and the right-bottom one makes extruder and injection. Lucky that you have three

5:00 PM

Oh ok

5:00 PM

What did you meant by the set of plans? Like how to build them?

5:03 PM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredder

Is here anyone who sells shred plastic on the Bazar? I want to ask them a few questions

i cant see plans on there tho? need to know shaft length

Not in the video too?

Does anyone know who made this injection machine?

6:22 PM

The picture was added in the PP academy, but there are no sources, names or any reference of who built it https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/injection

Should be somewhere Taiwan or China... or maybe Hong Kong.

6:27 PM

As a Japanese, I can read and understand the text.

Hello

Does anyone know who made this injection machine?

@xXxOlivierxXx Taiwan. in the early days

Problem with recycled plastic is still that you cant get it as transparant even if you only used transparant shredded plastic. But most of the time you dont need transparant luckily

@Jonatan | NL Cut up a 2.5 liter bottle, use the shredded and melted and re-extruded plastic as the window frame and have the transparent part be the recycled bottle plastic... lego piece together larger sections etc

11:35 PM

@davehakkens I feel like if there were some backpack sized machine you could stuff bags and containers into, use those miniature dremel metal cutting discs to shred, funnels into heated screw pipe that melts and extrudes into an ingot mold... something useful shaped like a zip tie, people could just collect a bunch of zip ties until they have enough to make the larger part with the 3d printer or whatever it is... I feel like that would make all of it a lot more simple... accessible for others lol btw, polysterene (or whatever it is) sucks but expanded polypropolene (bicycle helmets) is very boss level... I want to know how to recycle it properly (the internet says it can be done), anybody have any ideas?

@xXxOlivierxXx Taiwan. in the early days

@davehakkens Seems like they are using a Nema 23 or 32 motor to push the cilinder. Did their prototype had any success?

Seems like they are using a Nema 23 or 32 motor to push the cilinder. Did their prototype had any success?

@xXxOlivierxXx Not sure. i've only been in touch with them when they just finished it and only did a few events. I think you can still find them on the oldmap. if you need to get in touch

Found them

11:58 PM

It appears like the motor is connected to an auger?

11:58 PM

Something like a vertical extrusion machine thing like

seems like a linear actuator; tried one of those cheap ones, too weak & slow

Is here anyone who sells shred plastic on the Bazar?

@Marten - NL Try contacting any of the folks that sell here: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/raw-material/

Raw Material

@Marten - NL : and btw. the shredder is quite more than '200Euro', especially if you want it for production.

I don't have enough money for a expensive shredder

i know, I think the ~200 was for a well equipped workshop, also couplings (~200 new alone) and other things are missing in the BOM ...

12:54 PM

@Marten - NL , where are you located ? You could however find second hand industrial shredders in the ~700+ range at your nearby machine / auction traders; it's possible to refurbish those relative cheap - then you might have a chance to make some extra $$ on the side - the prices in the bazar are really high - too high to buy it actually (edited)

I remember proposing in #deleted-channel or other channel about auction in bazar. (edited)

I am located in the Netherlands.

1:01 PM

But €700 is to much for me

evtl. try getting it via crowd funding campaign ...

I want to start a mix workspace, but I have no idea where I have to begin.

1:03 PM

I first need money to buy machines.

try to find nearby people first - there should be enough promo material around on facebook as well - have a look on the map how others make their website, create a facebook group and get nearby people on it.

1:06 PM

ask the fablabs as well

I know them! I have been there much times

may be you can find promo material setting up crowdfunding campaign on google : 'precious plastic crowd funding'

1:09 PM

if you need a website or - we host this kind of stuff for free

Serious?

1:10 PM

A website for free? With HTML or something like that?

serious - no, just hosting but there are easy to use and free services for that, 'WIX' or so. we do just free hosting - if you really need it

@Marten - NL I will donate you via crowdfunding. I have been earning money with Fiverr for this.

1:12 PM

Maybe 20 euros.

1:12 PM

Yeah I can help with Wix

yeah, be prepared to wait up to a year ...

Just start collecting and selling. It should earn some savings and you will be a member in your community.

Collecting plastic?

1:16 PM

Where can I sell plastic

that's an advise we can't support, yet

On the Bazar you can't sell u shred plastic

1:17 PM

*unshred

I meant local

1:17 PM

It's rather giving and getting some pocket money.

There are only a few workspaces in the Netherlands

That's better than Japan::)

Here I am

Can you walk to that workspace?

That workspace on my West side?

Yes

That's around 45 km...

Ok nevermind

1:20 PM

It would be great to have a ruler in that map, that's what i thought btw

1:20 PM

You can maybe resell products

1:21 PM

"seller" is not a role right now in Precious plastic, but it's crucial.

What can I sell?

evtl. scrap plastic from manufacturers

1:22 PM

it's often in a good quality

That should be an option

there is enough material about on https://community.preciousplastic.com/ .. (edited)

With that I can earn money for machines

may be, a big maybe - also that can take long time

1 kg is 0.2 euros?

1:23 PM

That is what they said in the video.

How much would people buy around me?

Like I said before... you have to contact.

1:24 PM

Still worth trying tho

there are 11 workshops in the Netherlands. I think there are around 7 active, and the most of them are collecting plastic themself I think

Yeah you think

1:26 PM

you have to contact to get a 100% precise info

1:28 PM

@Marten - NL Reselling can also earn some profit

1:29 PM

You buy products from workspaces, and sell it to your neighbors.

1:29 PM

You don't have to buy it if you don't want to

That's an option.but to make profit I have to sell it for a higher price.

You just get it, and share percentages to the workspaces.

I don't think they are interested for that

Again, you think. Get info.

1:31 PM

For now, start crowdfunding.

1:34 PM

@Marten - NL Use those business tools of Precious Plastic.

1:34 PM

Read https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business

I have seen them

You used them?

1:38 PM

You can get an investor with it.

in theory - may be, it's more a tool to get an idea

I actually used it and it was sucsessful

1:44 PM

That's my story

1:44 PM

you got an investor ?

Yeah

1:46 PM

Three months ago

told you guys, @Lazy_Turtle is taking it over one day

Yeah, but we already had machines so not so hard

@katharinaelleke I have updated my profile on community point

2:58 PM

Kindly, help me review it

has anyone tried making turning blanks and made things like pens and other lathe projects?

@PP Nigeria You did not mention her.

3:04 PM

@Kat

@katharinaelleke

https://shop-time.net/make-a-handle-from-used-bottles/

Peter Brown

Make A Handle From Used Bottles! - Shop Time

HDPE is the plastic used in many household containers including gallon sized milk jugs. It’s

Hello Family, i am Douglas and i from Zimbabwe Africa. I am looking forward to set up a plastic recycling

project making plastic bricks. Please can you assist me on how i can go about it. Thank you.

@Rehms I don't know if bricks are the best option, but we can do an in-depth discussion in "business" perhaps on this? (edited)

6:54 PM

So was plotting mold making

6:55 PM

can small desktop cnc machines make molds for the injection/extrusion machines?

6:55 PM

thinking something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHl9UwlDZbE&t= not going to be milling cold rolled steel anytime soon but some soft metal that is "good enough" for a mold

Nikodem Bartnik

IndyMill - Open Source DIY CNC Machine #1 Parts

@Eric Lotze only for thin sheets of aluminium i´d say, but you can make layer moulds like that..

yeah, there are some models which can, safe your money and build the real thing instead

would fdm 3d print -> greensand cast -> post finishing (rotary tool, powder blasting, checking dimentions etc) work?

sounds better, yeah

i've heard about lost pla / lost wax, is that better than greensand/plaster?

no idea honestly - but I've seen quite some impressing cast techniques out there on youtube.

6:59 PM

here's a good Mill build : not cheap though: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBYs0ZJLaVK8VV3_tsXVysg

VinceBuild

I have some machinist background and I love building stuff, especially tools.

if i want unrealistic precision tool goals i watch this:

7:00 PM

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1O0jDlG51N3jGf6_9t-9mw

Marco Reps

Impressum Marco Reps c/o AutorenServices.de Birkenallee 24 36037 Fulda Please don't send anything there, for business inquiries contact me at marco@reps.cc I...

7:01 PM

not sure if it's the sponsorships, or being near an industrial / university zone, but they get all sorts of cool stuff

@Eric Lotze there are lots of places where you can get stuff cut/CNCed, it can be cheaper than you think if you are thoughtful about how you design it

@Eric Lotze awesome channel (edited)

7:04 PM

yeah, https://www.3dhubs.com/ became actually stupid cheap after all

But anyhow

7:14 PM

the degree was for

7:14 PM

how people flow in large amounts

7:14 PM

so places like:

7:14 PM

theme parks

7:14 PM

cities

7:15 PM

I live in northern florida usa (jacksonville)

7:15 PM

and knew someone who went to UF or UCF forget which

7:15 PM

and they got an internship at one of the theme parks in orlando

7:16 PM

but all the fast pass stuff, and even the layout of walkways is all meticulously planned out, almost like traffic planning for cities

7:16 PM

was really something

are we still talking about about user flow on websites ?

no, but similar concept, but in person

7:18 PM

i get more creeped out by the online stuff lol

7:18 PM

like the whole how to make apps addictive and all that

7:19 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUMa0QkPzns

Vox

It’s not you. Phones are designed to be addicting.

7:19 PM

granted simple-ish to fix via turning off notifications and setting time limits

right - but yeah I agree; looks like folks are insanely lazy - and no, there is currently no much addictive on the PP page; it's froze for the next 5 years; would love to see at least some awesome newsfeeds there (edited)

i personally love their pr and web design and stuff, the engineering types tend to make lots of githubs, and wikis, which WORK, but some stylized stuff is nice lol

well, to me it's too much style - confusing structure, little to no serious content; ok for teaser though I guess - I don't wanna know how much deciders/investors we loose with that

i think links to githubs on those pages fixes that

For being the biggest 'open source plastic recycling movement' ... (edited)

there is so much content related to PP, someone could have a full time job running a youtube channel

well, trying to fill a lively directory, on the fly somehow, just need to finish some stuff ...

the organization of the data streams KILLS me, been trying to make OSE's pages all interlinked and whatnot for ~1 year, granted newer page stuff could make it a bit easier, but still, then PP/Wikipeida Level just seems impossible lol

7:25 PM

then large discords like these and just the sheer amount of data, like swimming in rapids

yep, tell - me - trying to figure this since ages for PP too; more or less I have a list of building blocks, still toying around

7:29 PM

7:31 PM

and then you have priorities kicking from the side : the project, the owner, the people, ...

There's a nice book about all this: https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783034862400 | student food but awesome to get an idea

Infos und Infone - Die mathematische Struktur der Information | DE...

Infos und Infone...

Here's a more practical list of types needed to articulate new types in such projects : https://github.com/plastic-hub/lang/blob/master/natives.md | I guess we can close the chapter here now for a while

(edited)

hi

11:51 PM

I need help

With what, i can try my best to answer

i want to build the extrusion machine but i can't to download the files because it takes too much time and is interrupted

11:53 PM

is there any other link to download itis there any other link to download it?

yup, hang on

11:53 PM

v3 or v4 ?

I don't know xd

11:55 PM

anyone

hang on

11:58 PM

here you go https://precious-plastic.org/products/v3/ex3.zip

11:59 PM

funny, was today writing a new download API, zipping out stuff ...

11:59 PM

if you want the 'big extruder' let me know

Thank you very much for your quick response

welcome

of course

there is also a 3d preview, which gives you the files in different formats : https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/machines/extrusion/

I want to install a small company in a town, here in Chile

12:03 AM

So I'm looking for information to generate a sustainable project and then look for resources

I don't think we have 100% mastered this yet, but:

I will take into account the big extruder if everything goes well

I think a place that does the following functions is best:

12:04 AM

Recycling Center

12:04 AM

Print Farm

12:04 AM

"Makerspace"

12:04 AM

Trade School

12:04 AM

Micro-Factory

12:05 AM

Community Place

A place that implements everything?

kind of...

eric on fire

12:05 AM

i find it is hard to make one of those things by itself profitable

JA JA

also many of the tools/machines lend themselves

12:06 AM

to doing multiple tasks

12:06 AM

You can use the space for industial work, but in downtime use it for training, or run as a makerspace

12:07 AM

also with a 3d printer you can make a MP-CNC and start doing wood/aluminium cnc work

12:07 AM

and if you get a laser diode you can do laser engraving

12:07 AM

so you can build up to it

12:07 AM

One thing i want to plan out sometime is:

12:07 AM

a "curb to curb" collection service

I also have ideas like this, I want to seek support from the municipality, they have a recycling service and recycling points.

12:12 AM

I don't know which company they work with or if they want to work with others.

12:12 AM

are closed due to quarantine

then you want the big extruder, there is the official version 4 and there is another version, more simplified but stronger and cheaper.

stronger and cheaper?

12:14 AM

mmm

12:15 AM

interesting

another thing to look into is the used market for industrial, and scientific stuff

12:16 AM

any industrial district, or research lab dumps all sorts of stuff

12:16 AM

often due to obsolecense, but not failure. Other times the errors may be fix-able with enough work

yup - in terms of labor and parts, v4 official uses exoctic stuff you won't get that easy, plus there are more labor excessive operations. here's the alternative you can do mostly on lathe and more available parts : https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/extruder-pro/extruder-pro-fully-built/extrusion-v4.3-lydia/

can you make screws on a metal lathe

sure you can, if you're crazy enough as me- i did a few dozens, 12+ hours non stop lathe, sick

It is true. Here I do not have companies that generate industrial waste

screws are cheap on robodigg, 100-200$, all you need is the motor and a flange, ... can be all cheap - you might want serveral extruders.

you know the engine specs?

2-4 Kw - 3phase (via VFD if you single phase only), 150 - 200 RPM output, depends on what you want to make

12:21 AM

out for today - have fun

i liked

here's more specs - https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/extrusionpro | they're partly off

12:23 AM

the small extruder works with 700W/3phase

12:26 AM

ignore also the 400Volt, you can also use 220V, just wants more amps then

i get it

400v is better though of course

Any idea how to recycle PLA in small scale?

You do not talk about Filament Club.

Ryoma

@Seb Hi there

what was difficult?

3:21 PM

the fact you were not in your country?

Just saying, I don't think I would be a good example for you. My business model is unique compared to others.

3:22 PM

Because I started inside school, funding was not a problem.

I see

However, it was very limited.

3:23 PM

It was easy to start, maybe

3:23 PM

But now in this situation, school is closed. So,

3:24 PM

At least we were able to break-even,

I am also waiting the life to come back to normal

3:24 PM

I have not idea how will looks like

So, you wanted to start a community point?

At the beginning yes

3:25 PM

Involve the community first, then set up a production point

3:25 PM

the plastic problem in canarias is also big

So your first goal is to involve the community. Am I right?

correct

By the way, we usually call them workspaces, not production point

ok

Perhaps you have a lot more to learn.

for sure

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy

I will start with learning more then

3:28 PM

when I have any more questions I will chat again

Get some popcorns.

thank you for your time Ryoma

3:28 PM

ahahahah

3:28 PM

I will

Enjoy!

Thank

3:28 PM

see us

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Hello everyone. Am Ivan from Panama, am committed to start a Precious Plastic in my country as there isn’t any yet. I don’t know where to start exactly, have seen the web site starting kits etc but I like don’t know witch is the first step so i joint the chat for guidelines

Anyone have ever asked to Weerg to make a mould?

Does anyone in this group focus on Aquaponics and Community Collection points? I would love to have a mentor in these areas.

Just thought I'd mention a concern that I have with the PP blocks / bricks. Working in Haiti, we have social unrest issues. Those blocks look to be very flammable. I would think that would need to be considered for any implementation with them...

@Kevin Adair In fact, that's the main problem with it.

Also microplastics

5:48 PM

Also may be better used elsewhere

5:49 PM

on the line of bricks though

5:49 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/CEB_Press

CEB Press

1

5:49 PM

uses essentiall dirt with the right parameters

5:49 PM

and an optional bit of cement powder

5:49 PM

not 100% stable/developed

5:50 PM

and from what we saw in belize

5:50 PM

it is kinda hell in wet climates

5:50 PM

otherwise a good choice

short question, how you like the new structure/format of the new PP library : https://precious-plastic.org/pp/machines/zoe.html ? It's just 10% of the planned features (files, 3d explorer, ...) Goal is also interlink pretty much everything, components, machines, products, ....

@Deleted User That looks ace!

Does anyone in this group focus on Aquaponics and Community Collection points? I would love to have a mentor in these areas.

@Sara Did you mean community points or collection points?

will apply this to all : projects, teams, ...

How much can you save with Zoe compared to buying separately?

5:55 PM

More datas more likes

you save : motor, vfd, couplings, extra frame/mounts, reducer, and all the electronics = ~1000 - 1500 Euro; i think clients buy this more because of space and portability

6:01 PM

and yes, there is still ton's of data to be added

6:02 PM

consider this is also as an attempt to have a universal system to present projects like this in the best light (unbiased, for different audiences, etc...)

the ONE wiki

6:03 PM

would be great

6:03 PM

but i always think of this:

6:03 PM

https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

3

yeah, but jekyll and a handful of scripts/templates is a little off from that

its great to have such a straightforward template

6:05 PM

it looks very clean and i like the discussion option

more or less i am borrowing concepts from mega company pages, as IBM, omron, I hope the structure fit's somehow to DIY libs too

6:08 PM

idea is as said also to promote PP as solution / knowledge / service provider - much to go . out for today, have fun

Community Point sorry.

@Sara Aquaponics could be a great application for recycled plastic products.. tanks, pipes etc

i think small, but many injection molded parts, extruded pipe/plastic lumber, Pressed Sheets, FDM 3D Printer Filament, and 3D Prints are a good model for "ultimate sales options" (edited)

6:29 PM

also perhaps large objects could be made in simple molds

6:30 PM

but large format 3d printers don't need molds/mold storage, and can do complex things without needing complex mold design

vacuum formed larger objects with sheets from the sheetpress is an idea with future potential i think

definetly!

6:52 PM

was plotting a "standardized" and very modular thermo/vacuum forming rig with integrated heater + optional continous feed somewhere

6:52 PM

ALSO

6:53 PM

i would love a video / recorded test on what thicknesses and "level-ness" of these sheets

more videos of machines in action are definitely needed

everyone loves to watch machines doing their thing

Hello I need help with the electric motor for the shredder

7:52 PM

Anyone could advice me what to buy

7:52 PM

What are the characteristics

7:52 PM

?

7:53 PM

I can't find people that would help me with

7:53 PM

Experience

7:53 PM

And share knowledge

@ciscolara for shredder V 2.1?

Yes

7:58 PM

I am building it

7:58 PM

But I need help

2,2 Kw, 380 V

7:59 PM

1400 rpm. e = 1/20. but i think e = 1/70 is better

What does e=1\20 means?

Sorry my english is not very good.the motor rotates at 1400 revolutions per minute.you have to put a reducer to make the shaft rotate more slowly.

no, 2.2 Kw, 1:30, 220V

8:02 PM

that's the best mix i've figured so far

8:02 PM

screw this 380V bs please for this cute little machine

8:04 PM

1:20 or 1:30 means the reduction, in example : 1480 RPM (standardish) / 30 = target output speed, ~70-80 RPM - right on the money

@ciscolara e = 1/20, means that it gives 1400/20 = 70 revolutions

380V is better though of course -

8:06 PM

motor & reducer price new, here in spain = 560, incl. VAT, new

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I just transfer the official documentation of PP. Surely there are different and better settings, but I don't go into that debate

yeah, I guess we need another 5 years that the so called 'official' finally fixes their stuff after all

8:08 PM

official means usually just another view on the same thing ... - in this case - there's lot's of biased, insufficient, incomplete info (edited)

por favor, otra vez no entremos en ese debate.....:)

well, you can deal with 220V; it's not a debate - otherwise 80% of all shredder units are invalid - stupid (edited)

8:10 PM

i guess it's a side effect pushing this workspace thingy, theory, dream ... (edited)

8:11 PM

380V is rather for high power devices, more in the 16A + range - no need for in basic usage; especially now when we have a general auto-reverse solution for this little sucker

8:13 PM

a 2.2 KW @ 220V @ 3P @ VFD sucks only <10 A - and it's good like this

I guess we're not in the position to suck more for this ....

8:14 PM

@PPCapiSpain : that's an english channel btw

@Sara I am actually planning something like that (aquaponics). Though i haven't done it yet, i have quite a few ideas about it. What are you wondering about?

@PPCapiSpain @Deleted User You can either use 220V or 380V for up to 16A current (if your circuit breaker has 16A, otherwise only 10A) =2,2kW (10A) or =3,5kW (16A) From an industrial point of view you would always recommend 380V - because you get less current= less heat = less chance to burn the motor coils = longer lifetime But if your main need is to be flexible in use - a shop with only 220V, going to exhibitions or educational, than the lower voltage will just enable you that uses. And thats what the 2.1 shredder is made for mainly. At 10kg/h noone runs it for 8h a day 5 days a week ;) (mostly US only:) And if you would have to choose to runt it with an transformer or without it, I would try to avoid the transformer by choosing the right motor for your power system to prevent any conversation losses.

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How is PP industrial all of a sudden ? - We can't tell of a single case; especially not for a 380V driven wood auger

- just curious since we´re entering soon the 20% + share of the PP "universe" ... (edited)

9:39 PM

Point is that we will have to clarify this now for you - for ages - to interested users - preventing also that they're dropping PP because of weird specs which make no sense; also looking at given past experience... whilst it takes you 10 secs to add the 220V note - at least given the theory that you´re top notch in what you´re doing. Thanks for that btw. it's just hours of our time per week apparently, not your hours; I understand you´re extremely busy feeding the docs non stop with updates, warnings, fixes, news, variants, project directories, global ads, great articles, detailed community news, setting out new bounties for new portfolios, etc.. . (edited)

9:41 PM

Anyways, I guess that´s just another reason to roll out a pp@next, adding what is missing. As said, we can only focus on what has been done, learn from it, and go from there. Jumping on the v4 train btw. turned out btw. quite risky, uncertain, exhausting, ... the usual palette of unchartered water I guess. Also there, we´re with PP

(edited)

9:42 PM

Btw., our 2.2kw @220V drive didn't get remotely hot or such - we call it the beast here - neither does the 800W/3P drive for the v3 extruder pro. (edited)

Once again, I´d like to add that output quality is a major concern - a terrain which hasn't been remotely touched ...; the very craft/trade is still to be shaped - it seems feasible to go baby steps first. 380V isn't much of help in any of these regards. On the contrary, we're loosing seemingly users just, thanks. That's btw. also a reason to finish a good v3.5 first - something where we can see lots of ❤️ and details - as it deserves, just as in the diamond, for 7k in a dedicated front page row no one else can have. (edited)

@Deleted User Your condescending messages are always such a huge drag and probably why this platform is losing users. You do good work but you are no leader. Get off your high horse. (edited)

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) , just adding other user´s feedback, thanks for considering the support and influencer folks - fighting for users over some weird specs (edited)

3:59 AM

Haven't seen you or any of the other cult worshipers - here or elsewhere answering users.

4:01 AM

Interestingly, Dave told me the other day that there is non stop complaints - just as on our phone, about issues and what not, since then still no action to change anything ... that's 6 months ago. thanks for your time, it just got worst. more questions, less answers. (edited)

4:01 AM

What's the problem with correct & application or version based specs btw ? (edited)

4:03 AM

And no, we pull in lots of users - with convincing tech, support,... , not everybody is here for the cult - There were quite some some good folks turning their back at Eindhoven's doors for exactly that reason. (edited)

4:06 AM

I guess this goes always likes this, facts in, blame, accusations... out

4:07 AM

Btw, we're still in contact with most power users, lost on the forums due to ignorance of the 'platform', nice try, how many of them you have in your contacts? You're btw. talking right now to the library master of PP - the more skilled and enthusiast for the job at hand - worldwide - voluntarily, not only taking most of the community efforts and concerns into account but also watching & analyzing behaviors and stats at scale. At minus 5e per hour whilst this job deserves a little more than your frivolous £$%£$5, don't you think ? If you don´t like progressive OS projects, don´t join it just or speak for people you just don´t know nor can or want to defend, dude. There would be no problem if things would change, or being considered at least - but with 1 commit in 3 months in the sources - zero follow up work, just as for v3 - we can't really speak of 'progress', protection for users, name it, now can we? For comparison, we upload all new things (ours & the community's work), each day, at a 1000% rate of a 10 times bigger team ... So i ask you, where is the love ? Where is the love for OS, where is the love for details, where is the love for the community, seriously, show me once once love anywhere. Sorry for the long text but I hope we clarified this for once and all - apparently this sort of *** comes always from the same "inner cycle", aka featured.. Try again, please. I am all open ears. And no, by no means I don´t wanna be the ´leader´ - what for - it´s running by self - I am not even qualified, just as Dave or Mattia or the 'gang' (wtf idea to pull PP through this £$"££$ when everybody tries something better ....) - we´re asking here since long only for some min. respect and decency for users, and the craft - minimizing damages, support overhead, etc... so much about listening to users btw. A complaint we know well from other leads looking at PP as well. I guess we have to apologize for being informed, ahead, out of the normal'd PP Eindhoven's target ? (edited)

you save : motor, vfd, couplings, extra frame/mounts, reducer, and all the electronics = ~1000 - 1500 Euro; i think clients buy this more because of space and portability

@Deleted User That's pretty good

You'r welcome, interestingly good folks have the heart sitting in the right place and watch over this

@Rehms Maybe this is for you

Hello! Is it possible to collaborate in How-to?

Hemos hecho este crowdfunding para poder conseguir financiación para Plàstic Precios La Safor y así poder mejorar. Nos podéis ayudar participando o haciendo difusión. Muchas gracias! https://www.goteo.org/project/le-damos-nueva-vida-al-residuo-plastico

Le damos una nueva vida al residuo plástico

¿Nos ayudas a conseguir unas máquinas nuevas para reducir el residuo plástico de nuestro entorno?

Dear all. I’m Kai and happy to be part of this community

6:46 PM

I’m from Taiwan and guess I’m the only one from Taiwan on this platform so far

Dear all, is ok to pre-wash the plastics waste before shredding or after shredding

8:52 PM

Also, does it need dry before recycling process?

Yes, you'd want to dry it or risk damage to machinery and product contamination. Moisture turns to steam and effects the quality in a lot of bad ways.

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9:18 PM

I believe washing before or after shred is up to experimentation.

I would imagine that washing before would often be the easiest, but i am not sure. And yeah, be sure to dry it off properly

washing before is best because it means less microplastics in the wastewater

makes sense

12:38 AM

granted a fabric bag (fine weaving) SHOULD catch all the microplastics (edited)

also less surface area means less surface water to dry off

12:41 AM

a fabric bag will likely not catch microplastics in the nanometer range

12:41 AM

better to avoid creating them if possible

wouldn't those uv-degrade relatively fast? (granted i fully agree reduction is key, made a post on the forum on this) (edited)

best if everything that comes out of the shredder goes straight into the extruder or injector

12:46 AM

or press

or just careful dumping into intermediate storage etc, and a filtered and/or humid enviroment with occasional hepa sweeping (edited)

12:48 AM

one of my many manuals i am planning is on microplastic prevention, managment, and disposal

12:48 AM

the forum post i made, s o r t of did this

12:48 AM

but a formal manual and video always helps

Hi guys. I made a FAQ bot for discord. Check it out!

8:06 AM

This is the test server.

@Deleted User Your motor doesnt get hot from shredding bottlecaps, I managed it to drive a motor constantly into thermal limits - so yes it can be an issue

Just because you write endless texts it doesn't proove you are right.

it also didn't get hot during all the other tests

10:55 AM

evtl. you add this in a longer and detailed report ? You and the others seem to be constantly short of details - would be great to see some passion about all this

I think a lot folks would love to know and understand why their machines have to be upgraded to a 400V business horse

(edited)

@davehakkens can you invite my bot to this group?

11:40 AM

https://discord.com/oauth2/authorize?client_id=711811429707153418&scope=bot&permissions=8

Discord - A New Way to Chat with Friends & Communities

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11:42 AM

I already tested and it works fine.

@Lazy_Turtle : you might change the required rights, 'admin' rights is a little much asked

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what does it do actually ?

It's a FAQ bot

11:57 AM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/support/faq

11:57 AM

Basically copypasted

very cool bot - just tried

Thanks!

but yeah - you might remove user management to lower the permission requirements

We just need dave inviting this bot

good luck with that

they seem to be allergic to the word 'support'

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Which of these machines is well prefer for a start up for PP?

In what perspective? Price?

Price

I guess shredder is a must?

2:18 PM

Plus compression or injection?

2:19 PM

1400 euro?

shredding : no, not a must compression machine as is: as the sheetpress, sucks tremendous energy injection: great start to toy around, you can hand cut plastic as well extrusion: also a great start Sometimes it's good not to answer questions which smell after homework needed

i guess the combination machine is designed as a starter machine...

looks like, yeah (edited)

first question should be what you want to make and can you sell it to pay for a machine

THe zoe?

quite amazing what folks on yt got out of home devices

2:31 PM

zoe: for instance

Is it possible to extrude with bicycle like shredder?

Run them "Extruder Machine" or the "Shredder Machine" with bike pedals?

The shredder one already exists, and I used it

question was semi-unclear

2:34 PM

as you said "extrude" WITH a "shredder"

shredder only needs mechanical power, extruder needs heat, a lot of electricity, if you need to plug it in it makes sense to drive the motor too

Oh ok

2:35 PM

The price is the main problem that many people face when starting up

yes because nobody wants to think about a business plan

Very true

2:36 PM

But I might have a solution

if you have a plan that can guarantee a return it should be easy to find the money

2:36 PM

As you can see money kind of fuels this universe

2:37 PM

I thought you are a fan of cryptocurrency?

yes in the long term something like that can work

2:38 PM

but it has to be based on something of real value

So when converting currency from PP currency to normal people are FORCED to invest

2:38 PM

Idk

all that infrastructure already exists, what is really needed is products which people can make to sell for real

Now people need to invest in Precious Plastic Universe, the whole universe.

micro currencies don't help imo

people dont invest in something unless you can demonstrate real value

Then the money can be converted instantly,

it's like arcade tickets, but real life

2:40 PM

extra complexity with no utility

ie Im gonna sell 10,000 units this year at $X each and my profit will be x%

it's easier to see PP as loose network of DIYers having fun, more of a jump board | aside of edu/SMEs application

That's kind of the situation now i think?

basically, a little like with art - you need a good (not really) artist and a trader who sells it for big $$ - you can do that without machines though

a lot of people come here with the hope that it will lead to a sustainable livelihood... its not realistic at the moment but it should be a goal, otherwise this is all a bit pretentious, just playing with rubbish

So how to achieve that?

2:48 PM

Precious Plastic Currency? Precious Plastic Points?

2:48 PM

Or new machines?

you could start breaking it up in what it is already : 1. DIY camp, 2. EDU apps/kits , 3. opportunity for SMEs, and eventually 4. a portal to get research done. (edited)

its a long slow process and it depends a lot on the discussions which happen, i like where things are at the moment, and i think working towards bigger machines in the future

Sleepover in workspace for education? How about that?

@Deleted User yeah that looks at a broader range

there are already for instance activities which utilize PP for entrepreneur trainings camps (edited)

How do you guys define industrial?

profitable

Is PP?

im sure there are some workshops that are, but very few i suspect

I was

2:53 PM

Why was my business profitable?

2:54 PM

Because I already had machines.

2:54 PM

Who would invest in machines?

2:54 PM

Schools?

There is also another opportunity to spill in resources, PP as the 'recycler' portal in it self - much like the https://plasticsrecycling.org/ association; that was originally the idea of pp.org

The Association of Plastic Recyclers

(APR) The Association of Plastic Recyclers. Representing companies who acquire, reprocess and sell the output of postconsumer plastic processing capacity in North America.

2:56 PM

there's definitely potential to turn workspaces into service vendors - but also there, PP has to be freed from the island scheme first

whats the island scheme?

Maldives?

Offshore tax haven?

idk

2:58 PM

I've been thinking about the investing part for months...

2:58 PM

I had so many ideas!:)

PP 'HQ' seems to be designing it rather as island rather than open it up - for instance, I'd have love to see them pushing things into other platforms, not just theirs. (edited)

PP crowdfunding page...

2:59 PM

Along with PP currency...

They just didnt quite buy into decentralization yet... its ok, it will happen anyway

PP Asia? For instance?

forget PP currency for a while though - still need some other steps done first. here's a good example of a service directory : https://plasticsrecycling.org/about/buyers-and-sellers-info | a good way to present PP as network of talents & resources to the world ... (edited)

Buyers and Sellers Info

(APR) The Association of Plastic Recyclers. Representing companies who acquire, reprocess and sell the output of postconsumer plastic processing capacity in North America.

the platform is always an issue, we tend to have a favourite and stick to it for a while

Just asking, can a community point be PP Asia?

3:03 PM

A place to connect recyclers in Asia?

3:03 PM

I would love to be the one lol

3:03 PM

It's not so local, but might be a good thing

all this infrastructure is great but it has to be built on real demonstrable value

What percentage of PP was sucsessful? It might be an important data

if its manufacture we need to show real products, if its education we need to show real courses, outcomes

there is also great value in the people around - unfortunately there is not much shown about this 'assets'

Is it community point's role to find an investor?

for this to grow it needs investment, either peoples money or their time... imagine we are talking to the toughest investor in town... @Deleted User the people too, its difficult to show their value but without demonstrating it in black and white nobody will be interested (edited)

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3:11 PM

it also helps contributors to feel like what we are doing has real value

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3:11 PM

its coming, i´m not complaining, dont get me wrong

3:12 PM

i am describing something which i can see happening slowly

@Deleted User you had the idea of skillshare right?

3:13 PM

Can that be done on bazar?

3:14 PM

If possible... ... ... I would do things for a client like writing proposal doc for 5 euros:)

3:15 PM

I like the process of earning money:)

@Lazy_Turtle - yes, trainings courses are in demand, also as after machine sale's service - but this requires really a well done course, infrastructure - you could try also with less, sure.

I just earned $75 today, btw

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and yes, there could be also other services in the bazar.

3:16 PM

@Lazy_Turtle you rock

I got 4 star review :I

3:17 PM

There are some mold design services on the bazar already.

right, have to get back to the lathe, 6 hours non stop ahead

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its an interesting topic, how to monetize and fund open source projects.. the Prusa model is very successful, making a very high quality version of the open source design, and capitalizing on the community of users

Community-led.

yes they managed to find a balance between an open source community and a profitable enterprise

It's deep

3:20 PM

I've been helping few people start their business. Some have a government money, some have no money.

and just like with Etherium, the real value is generated by the community of users

People just needs to be passionate...

3:22 PM

How about this?

3:22 PM

Tip if sucsessful?

3:23 PM

I do the work of proposal and logos... then get some $$ if sucsessful?

3:24 PM

"OPTIONAL"

3:25 PM

I really like fiverr.com method.

yea that is pure decentralization

3:26 PM

plastic recycling can work like that too https://www.balebid.com/

BaleBid | The Global Recycling Marketplace

BaleBid.com is a unique marketplace specifically designed for the brokerage and trading of recyclable material and recycling equipment

Wow! will check that out!

3:30 PM

And I still want PP points...

3:30 PM

Giving points like a tip is lighter than money...

+1000 for @Lazy_Turtle being one the best members I´ve seen since long in PP, +1000 for actually thinking this through, and -2000 for poisoning your youth with that stuff

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4:22 PM

Yup, it is pretty rare to see someone that young with so much drive and passion. Huge respect from here.

Nah it's fun doing this

@katharinaelleke am still awaiting your approval on my community point

i need to get back to you on the "pet bottle peeler" too!

10:23 PM

@PP Nigeria made a wiki page for it:

10:23 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Plastic_Bottle_Peeler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINRkRf3aFs

10:24 PM

will now dig for existing designs

got a decent pile of links in that page now @PP Nigeria

10:40 PM

no 3d printed designs yet

10:40 PM

ultimate would use a razor/exacto knife blade, and have adjustable peel width in mm

10:40 PM

0.1 to 5cm?

@Eric Lotze what a great link, can it be use in place of shredder?

you cut the "peeled strips" with "Shears" or "Scissors" to make 0.5x0.5 or so "Plastic Flakes"

11:07 PM

not a 100% replacement

11:08 PM

needs bottles (preferably), or hollow containers with open tops and/or bottoms

11:08 PM

also PET is hard to work with

11:08 PM

short of pyrolysis it needs to be dryed

Just being curious - since there is no recycling process for PET in PP (except 3d print) - What do you wanna do with peels/stripes ? I think there was some footage in V4 about ropes but not sure where this went after all. I´d love to make the machine for that though, assuming we can´t refurbish existing and abandoned textile/fabric devices (many out there, thanks to China). @ShrednMelt_Xu is also interested in doing a yarn machine - we might setup a forum post to start with. (edited)

other bottles/hollow containers

11:25 PM

rope as well

11:26 PM

also could be pyrolysed as last resort

The King of Random

Soda Bottle Rope | How To Make Rope Or Homemade String From A Plast...

also i am developing a drying workflow

11:26 PM

yep thats a good video on it

11:26 PM

also as someone who sails, plastic rope is a modern miracle

11:26 PM

n o f r a y e d e n d s (edited)

Sounds like good material for the outstanding PET dossier@PP.

and lashing can make cool stuff

Someone try this ropes for running stuff on pulleys

11:33 PM

There have been a number of discussions about pyrolysis in the forums : https://www.google.com/search?q=pyrolysis+site%3Adavehakkens.nl&oq=pyrolysis+site%3Adavehakkens.nl&aqs=chrome..69i57.16127j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Not exactly convincing considering the side effects. (edited)

3D Printed Hatch Blocks...

11:33 PM

definetly need ppe for pyrolysis

11:33 PM

treat it as a big nasty toxic pile untill post-processed

11:34 PM

or burnt in a furnace/engine raw with scrubber (edited)

11:34 PM

always filter out solids, and dispose of properly

11:34 PM

and yet again last resort

Not sure I understood all of that but it seems to be great stuff for the page/dossier.

the page or my discord rant?

The wiki page you just started. Might be great to see a section, "products", "outcomes" or the like there.

like a "produces" kind of thing? (edited)

Basically, yes.

also was the text itself unclear, or just the subsection layout?

Sometimes it´s unclear - yep, but that´s more likely because I am not the modern chatter

lol

11:42 PM

did i use shorthand

11:42 PM

i use a PILE of that

11:42 PM

and have to translate outside of small tech circles lol

Yeah, presenting content neutral and without too much deps / context free seems to be quite a challenge.

i can do it definetly, just sometimes forget to

11:44 PM

did i though?

only here in the chat, don´t bother, keep going. It´s good to assume that the others understand only 30%, in your case though. (edited)

this is a "tech circle" imo

11:48 PM

also i can always explain abbreviations and terms

11:49 PM

also we have a language barrier, so i try to make my sentences (roughly...) translatable via google translate

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Anyone a clue what stickers we should put on our machines in and outside of PP ? There are a few ´features´ candidates I´d love to put in the promo material : 1. "Open Source", I´d love to say 100% but can´t quite yet, not even if we would manage to make the PID controller home made. There are some icons for however. 2. "Green Produced", means low energy input, according to ISO 14001, best as possible. We also recycle most scrap. A better wording is welcome. 3. working on it, ISO 9001:2015 4. CE seems rather pointless, but at some point we might pick it. We prefer to resolve the ISOs first 5. Support / Warranty 6. Best Seller 7. Something about the cause ? 8. Contributor badge ? That's what just came to mind

There is also a physical sticker we'd love to have, a laser cut stainless plate, "Precious Plastic - The Open Source Recycling Movement" (not adding "Powered by PlasticHub", yet ❤️ ) (edited)

12:06 AM

well, "made with love, and the best whiskey you can get" came to mind too

Outside of PP means, promoting the machines in local ad and distribution networks. Those seem to be quite powerful, you can opt-in reach and what not. Campaign for that starts in Sept, not urgent though

(edited)

12:18 AM

OSE is plotting advertising too lol

12:48 AM

fine line between being invisible, and spooking the doomsday preppers to their bunkers lol

12:48 AM

granted i just want PP level videos on OSE and D3D reviews....

I think videos are rather useless in this context, a good product, service, content and support might kick off this easier.

i think b o t h

12:54 AM

if a product is not known it doesn't matter how good it is. Granted i'm young and use youtube a ton

12:54 AM

youtube reviews on 3d printers are my main info

I am dreaming since long being one of that small family businesses out there, good reputation ,good product, that's it. Niche still works, in this case.

also found pp that way

My metal supplier specialized machine shop is one of the best known companies nation wide, grown in a garage, passed on to the kids, no ads needed - and even wanted. (edited)

12:56 AM

I want exactly this. No stress, no webpage, no 60secs instragram bs, just doing the thing, right and good. (edited)

granted (and this is what i bet they did, correct me if i'm wrong) is just spread by word of mouth

1:08 AM

you do one job

1:08 AM

/ sell one product

1:08 AM

they tell their friends/coworkers...

1:09 AM

takes longer but can work

1:09 AM

especially if it's a great/unique (fills a niche) product

It's kinda of 'circular' here since long, yeah. Most of things produced here in Catalonia is on a shop to shop base. You just need to be the best and more flexible in your area - in particular in an industrial area. Folks get to know you pretty quick, next door laser service has always things to do for you. Most of those areas have those cute worker bars, lot's of business is done there are already, just like on a 5 star golf place where they trade the entire parts of the world....

1:20 AM

If you're good at it, companies buy you even the machines, as long you can make them dance good and fast enough

1:21 AM

NY CNC is one of those, great story, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbQW5obNkcY

Sorry Catalonia but the day of "working until you build a reputation" is long gone. Now if you don't build up that hype it doesn't matter the quality or the usefulness of the product because it won't be featured in stores nor more importantly nowadays, online presence.

2:10 AM

So the people who want that kind of product have no idea you exist while the few who do come across your item may be like ,"it has no reviews, never heard of it... I'll buy the Amazon version"

I agree @Titankore.ai

2:56 AM

also you can leave all the social media to a hired/volunteer "social media manager"

...Wow, I just joined... Is this the only meaningful server I joined?

this is my "business" account

4:33 AM

but i have a PILE of other servers on my personal lol

4:33 AM

how'd you find Precious Plastic?

I found it on a youtube ad lol

4:37 AM

juuuuust procrastinating

i found it on youtube too!

5:09 AM

you a maker, in a business, or just curious?

I am just curious.

5:17 AM

You?

Anyone done any experimentation with induction heating and melting plastic & have some documentation? With smelting metal it has a higher power to heat ratio and seen some hacks in 3d printing using it curious if it'd work for melting instead of sheading either to pellet form or product form at a lower cost. Sorry if this is the wrong area to ask in.

I had done experiments with drinkin coffee... the result is that I cannot sleep

Like right now

@Deleted User stickers are a good idea, but CE doesn't seem pointless to me. I believe it is necessary for doing any government related work, correct me if i'm wrong

CE is required in the EU when selling 'complete' machines (ie: not a kit, as Prusa & friends do). CE wasn't exactly required in our cases. Since most and more crucial components as electronics, cables, etc... already have CE, we would only need to work on a better enclosure and an exorbitant inconvenient hopper which isn't even really possible with the PP basic shredder. CE isn't also the more important from my understanding, ISOs are :-) Working for the gov. sucks - at least here in Spain; if you're lucky you get your $$ sometime within 6 months, or when things go wrong, in 12 or years

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@Deleted User Yeah, it's not like the danish government is fast either

Whether CE or ISO is more important, i honestly have no idea, i just think it is worth considering some "proof of safety" when working with stuff like this

Yeah, with a little passion and love, I am sure everybody is doing their best to avoid harm. ISOs are great to get the company on good track, CE is sort of by product.

7:55 PM

https://github.com/plastic-hub/factory/tree/master/documents/iso/9001/2008

plastic-hub/factory

PP Open Factory. Contribute to plastic-hub/factory development by creating an account on GitHub.

When working with a school, i generally prefer to avoid electrocuting the children. It is such an awkward conversation with the parents.

7:55 PM

But cool, it makes sense! Thank you

CE PP wise this means for instance that power switches have to be on the back of the device - contactor driven (small load only) or not - a thing which might be annoying ( especially to welders) but that's alright though - there is some thought behind I guess

To me it's rather artificial bloat

umm... just a question: Do anyone have like a small shredding machine for cheap prices?

because bro THAT WOULD BE LIT

Hey everyone. Very new to this. I own a small business where we laser cut cast acrylic jewelry. We've been operating for a year now and we've never thrown away any of our left over scraps of plastic. It's always been the plan to take that potential waste and use it to create new products! Would anyone be able to guide me towrards someone or a resource where I can start figuring out how to make this happen? I know I need access to a few machines / resources but there just seems to be a ton of info, not sure where to start

first of lasercutters are one HELL of a machine already, is it some diode setup, or full on CO2/fiber?

1:10 AM

seccondly

1:11 AM

i think and injection molding machine and/or 3d printer would suit you best

Thanks for the quick response Eric, we're using a glowforge pro laser cutter.

ah

1:12 AM

that's co2 right?

I know that I can't melt cast acrylic back down and then laser cut it again, so we are leaning towards injection molding! But just need some direction for resources there

1:12 AM

yupp!

can do wood as well?

yeah exactly! We haven't experimented with wood much but that is one of the main materials they seem to market it for

@Kevin Wang If you're looking for a very cheap shredding machine, secondhand blenders can be used (at your own risk). These cannot process very much material however, and run the risk of heating the plastic while shredding, creating a clump of plastic instead of shreds

i posted a bit on that a while back

1:13 AM

may need to make some page or something

1:13 AM

but essentially the workflow is:

1:13 AM

collect + clean plastic

1:13 AM

cut with shears/scissors

1:14 AM

place in small portions in blender

1:14 AM

blend to liking

1:14 AM

optinal post-screening for consistency

(edited)

1:14 AM

store in bin and/or dry, clean area

@Isometric True.... Do you know anything that do not require electricity (hand powered for exp.) and is still pretty small, like... maybe around the size of a huge printer?

1:17 AM

...

@Eric Lotze thanks for that breakdown! Any insight on how I can manage to find people with the machines necessary? I live in Los Angeles. tried to find a precious plastic community out here but not seeing much about it. We work from our converted bedroom so no space to create the necessary machines, hoping to find a community to help make this happen

1:18 AM

@Titankore.ai - I of course disagree

It doesn´t take long to figure that Amazon is full of overpriced crap, especially if it comes to special things. I won´t dare telling my gurus that I bought drills there the other day (complete fail, as so often). You also don´t need a ´product´ per se in this very niche, being good at something is already quite something. (edited)

@Deleted User lets go to the usa page (or some other one) to not clog stuff up

1:19 AM

i guess

I'd greatly appreciate that! Thanks @Eric Lotze

@Kevin Wang Check out this listing on the bazaar https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/shredder/shredder-fully-built/shredder-ce-certified-community-version-clone/

Manual Shredder - CE certified

1:22 AM

Could engineer your own solution based off this

1:22 AM

depending on tools and materials avalible

Thanks Isometric!

1:23 AM

... I don't think I can afford it lol

yeah, in laser and materials it´s not more than 200-300e - good luck getting the files from them - they seem very concerned about the subject.

1:25 AM

@Kevin Wang what you wanna do with the shredder actually ? and, where are you located ?

1:26 AM

there are sill some low cost options here : https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/machines/shredder/

I'm not saying it's impossible, but the day where it was a common/simple path is now fraught with a lot of issues.

right, I was more referring to good old shop2shop, that´s what works here best, since long

@Deleted UserThanks for responding! ... I was kind of hoping for a low price and working shredder that can recycle all the stuff for my family or maybe even my neighbors. I know it sounds a bit unrealistic and I am just here for... fun and interest, but if a small and cheap shredder is somewhere in the world then I would be ordering it immediatly. I am located in California.

The laser cut part is relative cheap, you could get it for 100-200$, you can use a large wheel and pulley to run it, till you find all the other things as couplings and motor. (edited)

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will take some time ...

also you can hand oxy-fuel torch

1:33 AM

with some grinding to make everything fit etc

I´ve a smaller v3 shredder version on the bench, let me try this week - possible it´s enough to cut house hold stuff. Will ping you.

It looks like from his perspetive that he doesn't have a whole lot of tools or expensive equipment. Perhaps it would be better to reach out to an existing precious plastics workshop and seek their guidance

I am just a kid

welcome to PP, we all are

somehow

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that´s a good PP entry level setup : https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/portable-desktop-injection-machine/ - no shredder really needed, just patience

Thx!

Oooh, that's perfect for me as well

youtube as always is your friend as well, https://www.google.com/search?q=recycled+hdpe+youtube&source=lmns&tbm=vid&bih=888&biw=1920&hl=fr&ved=2ahUKEwjpsIPBjsHpAhVInRoKHRNhBCEQ_AUoAnoECAEQAg. scissors, oven, wood wold, alu folie and you´re ready to go

This is just an idea that's been circling in my head and since I saw the seashell mold and such and figuring out relatively simple objects to make. What about like, an open source board game? Like map peices that are hexagonal and about the size of coasters, use an interchangeable "lid" to the cast of the interlocking hexagon mold.

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2:00 AM

People can submit new designs for map peices or for units used in the game that can be 3D printed or made by the batch using PP equipment

tk-betty YES BOARD GAMES GOSH DARN IT!!!!

2:13 AM

How the f did I forget about board games

I know there is already people who make games who would probably love to partner with local businesses. Like maybe the cards against humanity folks?

first of "settlers of catan" small wargaming / dnd figurines is a HUGE market

2:39 AM

people with 3d printers, and an airbrush are making bank

2:39 AM

so some good molds, and an airbrush

2:39 AM

or even all of the above...

2:39 AM

also along the lines of an OS board game, not sure on physical, but OSE is plotting (very early phases) a computer game

2:40 AM

perhaps like civ-5/6 can have a simplified tabletop game too?

2:40 AM

also ar overlays on tabletop games is being discussed and "bridges" the gap

2:40 AM

also os parady of monopoly

2:40 AM

where the end goal is not an abusive monopoly, but

I was actually creating a cardgame as a hobby... Maybe we can actually create some kinda boardgame whotf knows lol

f u l l y a u t o m a t e d, q u e e r, a n a r c h o - s p a c e c o m m u n i sm

2:41 AM

would be funny

2:41 AM

and an intresting concept

2:41 AM

also could spread os/maker philosophy

?

thinking a hybrid of monoply/life for that one

...

where you start out as "small os software company" etc

2:43 AM

and have various tiles/cards

2:43 AM

like "releases beta version of software" etc

2:43 AM

like all the cards/tiles in "life"

2:43 AM

and have various stops with major decisions

cool... are you some kind of digital artist/programmer/cardgame nerd?

generic nerd lol

2:44 AM

the old "philosophers" did like 10 different things:

2:44 AM

-alchemy

2:44 AM

-philospphy

2:44 AM

-writing

2:44 AM

-art

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etc

2:44 AM

granted i am MUCH less skilled

2:44 AM

and specialization has a point

2:45 AM

(i can't run CERN, or design clothes)

2:45 AM

but i am intrested in a pile of things

well... i guess same lmao

i watched a pile of "mythbusters" and all those documentaries ont he various channels as a kid

cool.

adam savage may have rubbed off a bit on me lol

.... lol

2:47 AM

I watched trash as a kid... and some trash have rubbed off a bit on me i guess

Oooh, "f u l l y a u t o m a t e d, q u e e r, a n a r c h o - s p a c e c o m m u n i sm" That would be kind of a great prompt for a game.

what cna i say

Like... Okay, so what if it was a sort of cooperative game? Each player is in charge of a group of survivors in a post apocalypse, but if they help eachother's communities survive by sharing "breakthroughs" (dice rolls each turn to get to unlock new pieces)

... big brain

And the goal is to clear each map tile of some threat like kaiju or infected or any other threat. Like mass make zombie peices or something. Like each creature/threat has a set of stats and ones like zombies would have low stats but get lots of peices.

3:00 AM

(sorry for being repetitive, tired)

I do not know what this means... but it sounds like a great idea

so similar to minecraft/factorio/scrap mechanic:survival , but board game?

That would be lit...

also kinda civ

but the game is going to take long time

3:03 AM

to play/ finish

again not (al directly, ie AR can be used etc) a board game, and still very conceptual, but OS Factorio/High Res Minecraft/Civ-6 type game:

3:03 AM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Game

OSE Game

3:03 AM

on the note of being long

3:03 AM

a lot of those types of games:

3:03 AM

like DnD, and wargaming/settlers of catan/monopoly

3:03 AM

are long, but often broken into "sessions"

I actually was and kind of still am creating a cardgame about building & destroying other peep's castles

3:04 AM

The main goal is to gather a kind of card called space, where you can put your buildings on

3:04 AM

...

reddit or some discord about card games etc would probably love that, and have better help. Short of pc games like civ i'm not the proper level of nerd on that

3:07 AM

seems like a good concept too

Oh yeah!

also there is a HUGE, yet hidden/obscure market for this stuff

3:07 AM

many great games started as kickstarters for pet projects...

what?

and that is one of the few good kickstarter-able things lol

3:08 AM

not all the scams

is it kind of weird that we are talking about cardgames... in a recybling community?

Like let's say you start with six units, they have a truck that comes with a fabrication space. Fights between units and the threat on that tile are decided with dice rolls with something like Basic unit 1d6 but by the end of the game with some upgrades they do 2d10.

that is lit man!

The fabrication center thing is like a micro factory that takes in recyclables/resources gathered to do that stuff.

in the jsut chatting section

The stats would be kept simple like zombies have 10 hp, do 1d4 per turn.

3:10 AM

sorry

also maker community is like hydra with it's far reaching ness

3:11 AM

from weeb shit cosplay, to legit industrial production the maker community is far reaching, many people, many subsections

I really should stop procrastinating lol

what got homework to do?

yes lol

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right group to ask, but I want to please know if the shredder can be use to shred other things like paper and polystyrene to?

i would assume so

4:23 PM

some similar devices are used for shredding nearly ANYTHING

4:24 PM

ie dump in destroyed house post hurricane to reduce the piles size etc

4:24 PM

also agricultural waste

Great, thank you. Appreciate

I know chicken bones can be shred

4:41 PM

@ShrednMelt_Xu lol

i saw a pretty gruesome video of full dead animals (disease, roadkill etc)

4:44 PM

all the way to a full grown horse, and cattle

4:45 PM

not shredding satisfying compilation...

4:45 PM

although chaotic me hopes the algorhythm suggests it with those videos...

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4:49 PM

was c r u n c h y

Is there a wiki that has all of pp info and links. like a single go to place the references all the materials, machines, pp versions, explanations of terms, other opensource projects by other groups the co-inside with pp, and ect. I am having a hard time finding links info and everything else. i feel like it is spreed out too much.

is put some on OSE wiki, feel free to join and expand it

6:12 PM

also someone PPcat i think made a github, but this is too technical for most imo

git hub is confusing

@Beginner's Tech : more of a library than a wiki : https://precious-plastic.org/home/library/ (replaced soon by https://precious-plastic.org/pp/machines/) the PP folks in Eindhoven do good here too https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/intro.html. For instructions, you have also : https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to It became quite an eco system after all - so yes, there is lots of different material of course ...

feel free to join ose, and use that...

But I agree, we need a good portal

could make a

6:17 PM

[[Category: Precious Plastic]]

6:17 PM

i may have already?

6:17 PM

also i think we are upgrading to better wiki tech

6:17 PM

somewhaat in the works

no you don't

doing one for for PP turns out quite complex : news feeds, update feeds, social feeds, name it ...

that's too technical for me

Plastic Recycling is technical, I am afraid

6:18 PM

we're working on that

@Beginner's Tech : and of course the forum, kinda biggest 'wiki' ever actually : https://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle+shredder+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&oq=bicycle+shredder+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&aqs=chrome..69i57.19791j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

forum is kinda oddly orgainized (i prefer reddit) and is conversation based, not wikipedia like editable information list

Well, I am quite happy with Discourse, you can organize it as you like - it's just a matter of setting up a new view on the data... however, as long you can integrate and maintain the tech fully, sure - go for it. (edited)

@Eric Lotze ... for the crunchy comment... I can't believe I am so offended by something I completely agree with

Hello This is a project I am working at the moment to make anonymous beach cleaners known and seen by institutions. It is a very basic map that cumulates the weight of plastic pollution collected. If you know groups that have data or that would like to record their data we can do it for them for free. The map is customizable so that you can choose your colours etc for your own website and display your own data only. The lower graph will become interactive soon and we will be able to see the evolution of the pollution for each recorded beaches. My group has been recording such data for 3 years and it really helped us understanding what was going on but also getting arguments with the authorities. At the moment we take only team data including the name of the beach, date of collection lat lon and weight. I am hoping to finalise the DB for user entries by the end of the week. https://www.plasticatbay.org/research

Research

(under development) Public citizen data:Weight of marine plastics (kg) path { stroke: white; stroke-width: 0.1px; fill: lightblue; } #map-holder { width: 600; height: 800px; } circle { stroke: whit…

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland That’s fantastic, great work!

yeah

Hi guys, my oven was working wonderfully but for some reason it no longer holds temp, it just continues to rise. I looked at the electronics and the SSR was knackered. See photo. Upon replacing, I have the same issue? Any ideas?

Use a microwave

7:19 AM

Jk

7:20 AM

srry I got no idea

Does your injection sometimes try to be a volcano? Yes ---> You have Rex C100 PIDs. keep calm and stair step your temps

@CitSciWorkshop

7:26 AM

Maybe this could help @linnto

Ha thanks @Lazy_Turtle I have just ordered an inkbird PID. Hoping that fixes the problem. I do have another Rex C100 I could put in to test though come to think of it

Careful if you think your SSR is already fried.

7:30 AM

maybe set a low temp and see if it can take load and open/close around set points like it should.

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland , nice nice nice, I remember that there was a MP tracking device mentioned in the forum : https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/micro-plastic-sensor-tracker/ - had no time to progress on it. ´PublicLab´ did some nice things here too :https://publiclab.org/tag/microplastics (edited)

It is for macroplastics, what the layman collects on a walk. I have done rough estimates here and maybe people collect 100s of kg that are not recorded anywhere. So there is no "problem"

Imagine people fighting each other for plastic trash lol

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10:30 AM

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland How do I put it on the map

10:30 AM

?

at the moment I fill up the DB myself from other groups and mine

ok

hopefully tomorrow the submission form will be live

Wow very fast:)

i am wrestling web 2.0, feeling old

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I know a group that collects plastic in Japan:) I will put it tommorow:)

10:33 AM

I should learn how to use wordpress:)

i am wrestling web 2.0, feeling old

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland in your case I´d work out first in a static page, and then migrate it to WP, WP is often just adding too much noise and pain. There are plugins to render static pages in WP as well.

@Eric Lotze I believe unity creates a stronger connection

2:24 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_currency

Community currency

A community currency is a type of complementary currency that is used by groups with a common bond, like members of a locality, or association, and designed to meet their needs. A community currency may be geography-based, making it a type of local currency, or it may be used ...

may make trade harder due to piles of currency exchange as well

2:26 PM

borderline "i'll help you, if you help me later" might work for small communities, who knows

2:26 PM

economic system replacement is QUITE a ways off

2:28 PM

You don't have to exchange all the time

2:28 PM

You can use it to purchase products, or invest in workspaces ( @Timberstar )

2:28 PM

THEN you get the real money?

2:31 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fureai_kippu

Fureai kippu

Fureai kippu (in Japanese ふれあい切符: Caring Relationship Tickets) is a Japanese sectoral currency created in 1995 by the Sawayaka Welfare Foundation so that people could earn credits helping seniors in their community.The basic unit of account is an hour of service to an elderly ...

2:32 PM

It's an idea, but will this solve funding problems?

2:33 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demurrage_(currency)

Demurrage (currency)

Demurrage is the cost associated with owning or holding currency over a given period. It is sometimes referred to as a carrying cost of money. For commodity money such as gold, demurrage is the cost of storing and securing the gold. For paper currency, it can take the form of ...

nice, yes maybe something like that would work.. i also like the idea which Etherium uses of running competitions with coins as the prize, for example who can design the best mould etc.. incentivise engagement and pump the coin at the same time

I just want stronger connection:)

2:49 PM

i just feel it's like dumping liquid fuel on the fire that is this issue:

2:50 PM

https://xkcd.com/927/

xkcd: Standards

2:50 PM

granted i am not an economist, so i can't answer to the large/small currency argument

2:51 PM

but i also know a common currency is a driving force behind many trade unions etc

2:51 PM

but also maybe less trade with OSE/PP production methods?

2:51 PM

but also travel

2:51 PM

so who knows

I want see a cycle in our universe, constantly growing

2:53 PM

Precious Plastic V5... when will it come? 2 years?

2:57 PM

It would be cool to see a Photo Contest in Precious Plastic. Not familiar with Instagram tho.

Hello This is a project I am working at the moment to make anonymous beach cleaners known and seen by institutions. It is a very basic map that cumulates the weight of plastic pollution collected. If you know groups that have data or that would like to record their data we can do it for them for free. The map is customizable so that you can choose your colours etc for your own website and display your own data only. The lower graph will become interactive soon and we will be able to see the evolution of the pollution for each recorded beaches. My group has been recording such data for 3 years and it really helped us understanding what was going on but also getting arguments with the authorities. At the moment we take only team data including the name of the beach, date of collection lat lon and weight. I am hoping to finalise the DB for user entries by the end of the week. https://www.plasticatbay.org/research

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland Are you all teaming up with any of the big groups the clean oceans? I think if small groups work together with large groups like ocean cleanup and others.

Research

(under development) Public citizen data:Weight of marine plastics (kg) path { stroke: white; stroke-width: 0.1px; fill: lightblue; } #map-holder { width: 600; height: 800px; } circle { stroke: whit…

@Eric Lotze Where are you based? (I haven't been following most chats, recently.)

north Florida, USA

5:43 PM

do we/can we have roles for locations?

We should

Doubt it. With 180+ countries/territories. Chaos.

how so, granted we could do continents/time zones at least

We can't do @japan or @indonesia

5:49 PM

Which might be important

via a role bot i mean

Make a bot!

5:49 PM

I will:)

granted you all probably know the technical hurdles more than me

5:50 PM

there are OTS bots too aren't there

5:50 PM

ie we can just add one?

1: We need admin to invite

5:50 PM

so: I will do it on PP Galaxy server

Maybe if it works without a reaction menu. If you have to set up 180+ reactions, I think you will soon regret it. (edited)

No, just two for now

yeah like i said you seem to get the code + dev behind it, so i'm probably like ItS eAsY

UTC+0 to +12, other for instance

5:53 PM

Should be worth it

Well it depends on what @here currently does. If it's limited to the channel it's the same thing. But also, people tend to abuse it. So, many Admins selectively disable it.

we really don't have that many roles

5:55 PM

not sure what our bot is

It's a version of YAGPDbot.

6:00 PM

It's just general netiquette not to ping people into conversations without the need for important, "must know" announcements. So @everyone and @here tends to be reserved for Admins.

exaclty why smaller roles are useful

Users can also disable @everyone and @here, on individual servers, if it gets out of hand. (edited)

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Just disable it

6:05 PM

lmao

6:05 PM

It has no benefit

See? I just did it wrong. Sorry.

Just remove @ everyone thats all

did we just have an "@"everyone ping ? :o

yes, for no reason

6:06 PM

lol

oh goody

No, @here ping.

pretty much the same

6:07 PM

both of them should be disabled

I'm not a moderator. Can't do it.

why did you ping

Typo

So, it's not limited to the channel, it seems. Good to know. So, don't do it.

(edited)

Just did some reading on making roles pingable. You run into the same kind of problems. The standard setting also makes it pingable by either everyone or only Admins. So, again you need some kind of bot trick, otherwise unwanted pings will occur in the same way.

Basically, the only way to make it work, is that you need to actually be a member of the group you're pinging. But it shouldn't be up to only you whether or not you are in that group. Because then anyone can arbitrarily join and spam the role group for fun. Individual pings at least require a bit of effort for the troublemaker. Assuming it's not a rogue bot, using an ordinary account. (Discord has gotten better at detecting them... I think.) (edited)

I appreciate all the work you folks are putting into planning the logistics for making this discord server an awesome resource for the community.

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Anyone know something about making a "bump harness" for blind dogs? The question has come up on a SA maker group. Apparently the ones for sale online can't currently be shipped from abroad. (edited)

I'm thinking our Guide Dog Association are probably the best people to ask. They should be experts in making dog body harnesses for people's canine assistants.

Looks easy but I think this could be quite difficult, unless you´re having a good sewing machine and all the materials, the bow is easy of course though - somehow. (edited)

It's apparently for a puppy also. So, she will grow.

9:27 PM

Maybe a giant "hamster ball"?

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Hello everyone! I'm from Portland, OR. Anyone from there on this channel?

1

Maybe just do the "quick and simple" thing and cut a wedge in a "cone of shame."

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This is the blind puppy. Awwww...

@Lazy_Turtle The submission form is online thanks to @Deleted User for the head up You can enter your beach cleaning data there https://www.plasticatbay.org/contribute-to-marine-pollution-data-collection and you can see them on the map there https://www.plasticatbay.org/research If I am contacted I can form teams and each team will have its own viewport (probably this weekend) so anyone from the team can upload data and will contribute to their own maps and graphs Still need to define a zoom that follows the user and other interactive details. Also the graph will be updated for each beach. but the system basically is running at the moment. I would be really pleased to get data from all over the world. It should be simple enough to submit

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have a weird idea... what if u can create parts of recycling machine from already recycled plastic

, anyone have any ideas? Just something to think about

It will be awesome! I wonder if the recycling categories of plastic can be sharp and thick as the parts of the shredder

1:46 AM

My recycled aquaponics system is keep the plant and the beta happy so far.

1:46 AM

He blew me a bubble nest today.

1:46 AM

*keeping

3:09 AM

Hmm... that was pretty accurate... I guess I am a flat earther now

3:10 AM

Yes I do believe that there are multiverses beyond our universe and they are just next too us

@Eric Lotze https://discord.gg/GdryfJ

Just contacted https://www.green-currency.com/ , We can be part of it our just collaborate to allow transactions between us and Green currency.

7:52 AM

Offline for few hours...

What about recycling a hula hoop and gluing it to a dog harness?

9:04 AM

For the blind dog?

I don't have a hula hoop to test the rigidity, but I thought about it as an option. Depending on the length, a piece of garden hose or irrigation tube or gas tubing (used to connect cooking gas canisters) might be rigid enough for the "halo" part, with just enough bend. All the other videos I've seen on the concept, has a flexible halo.

3:40 PM

Here's an example made from hanger strap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThVXodCJ280

Zepharis

Bumper Buddy in action!

What a lucky dog to have such creative minds problem solving for him. :)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPi7HumE_Ms

South China Morning Post

Chinese pupils wear one-metre hats to practise social distancing fr...

4:55 PM

for us... lol

If you are interested in marine plastic from a Scottish perspective you can join a Webinar that we participate in the 12th of June. A bit of Precious Plastic in a wider context https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/highland-ocean-plastics-webinar-2020-tickets-105521383298

Highland Ocean Plastics Webinar 2020

A free webinar event exploring projects tackling plastic pollution, in coastal communities, from a highland perspective.

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Added to my calendar

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Hi everyone, I'm Greg, i live in Barcelona. I recently found out about the Precious Plastic Universe, and i'am really grateful to have found people like you guys. Big thanks to Dave H., without him i wouldnt be introducing myself rightnow. I've been concerned about global climate change/plastic pollution/pollution in general since i was a kid but really but really never knew what to do. i started by creating an online shop where i promote the use of reusable, natural, biodegradable items and chemicals-free clothing. but it was not enough for me, i really wanted to do something more.. concrete. And well, i found Precious Plastic and i have to say it is relieving to know that i'm not alone! i'm seriously thinking about opening a space this year and join the universe. i will share steps and ask you a lot certainly...! Hope you're all safe from covid19 by the way!

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@Sara If you want to get really "fancy" you could make an electronic dog collar with laser range finding and left, right and center vibrators to warn the dog about collisions. Vibrators, so that the sound doesn't drive you insane. And also in case the dog is also deaf. The really low-tech version is a guy I saw who walks his blind and deaf dog, tied to the end of a fishing pole.

@Timberstar : that's what the new PP lib system is based on, 'Jekyll' ( being used also to generate Github pages). Here's an example page : https://mmistakes.github.io/minimal-mistakes/year-archive/, it's just github and a custom 'Jekyll' theme. You just keep throwing markdown files at it and it does it's magic.

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8:30 PM

Here more examples : https://jekyllrb.com/showcase/ | I took it also because it's Academy compatible.

Ok! Got it! Thats frickin awesome. I kinda thought thats whats going on but now its clicked

basically any PP product, project, has now this templates/jekyll folder, from there it goes into : bazar, forum, newsletter, product catalog, manuals, howtos, ....

quite fun after all

yeah nice! i have to learn it

Is it possible for PPHQ to share their survey data? It would be useful for people trying to start recycling to get $$

Hello guys, I have something special to ask you. Im funding a startup to plastic recycle with a v4 workspace and a game for mobile that I've been designing for 2 years now, I'm really close to getting real funding with this investor that came to me, but she requested I presented her more accurate market data. Since small scale and on demand plastic recycling facilities are RARE here in Brazil, I ask you, could you who works with plastic products please answer this formulary? https://forms.gle/aM1VV6eWDDoSHD9N9

Help us know better before we start plastic recycling!

We aim at creating wider knowledge among the universe of small / medium scale PLASTIC RECYCLING! Besides, the results of this research will give aditional, real world data for an investor + startup relationship that just started within a specific project in Brazil called Plasm...

Hello precious plastic community, what do you think of tetra pak? https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAgCOOTnKHx/?igshid=zhlp25ix4uxz

Some countries recycle it, some don't. But, of course, most of the much hyped collection turned out to be a scam. So, finding out what really happens to it in your city, once it's collected, takes some detective work. Because it's a laminate material, it's a nightmare to deal with below a fully industrial scale. (edited)

@lujc Hi welcome to PP; I am afraid there isn't enough data at the moment (we're watching out since long). There have been also a number of surveys but none of them has been really well advertised nor had much participation. That's a general problem with the PP project - due it's central structures - we can't publish updates, list projects, place warnings, directories, have community curated news feeds, and a million of other things which should be there

(edited)

6:05 PM

For now I can only recommend you to consider this the beginning of your journey, to a new craft. There are of course no receipts, eg: buy that machines and make a living. You really have to earn it - unfortunately; I know only a handful person who publish some insights about the trade. (edited)

Lujc has been around since September last year. But yeah, "Welcome"... again.

6:33 PM

Last year... The Before Times... when there was still hope... Remember that?

no problem - I understand repeating the same answer as exercise for the FAQ bot

@Deleted User I see, we are a pretty diverse community with lots of unstructured yet valuable data...Im going to keep on sharing our research with workshoppers, we need to keep hope alive! And else, never is too late for structuring all this data, it already help so many people around the world

6:38 PM

Maybe i should focus market research strictly on brazil 70% recycled plastic goods Yet here only 1% of plastic is recycled

I'd preset to your investor : 1. X small or big extruders can produce X items in X time, with X labor 2. a study about which items you could replace locally, also breaking up existing supplier chains - if you can beat the price under X circumstances. that data might be easier to get, the rest is luck and hope

just thinking loud (edited)

@lujc I completed your survey but can't figure what's your plasmohub project actually is. Is this some kind of analytic service for recycling ecosystem?

Btw, an update to my Filagain project, the 3D printing filament will come with a container to hold the plastic 3D print waste so that our waste collection system (hopefully) can be easier for users and the container also acts as a filament spool holder, and also both the container and spool will be reusable so nothing goes to the bin anymore

@Deleted User item 1 is done, but not based on other workshops experience, only my calculations and based on sheetpress since is the main machine we choose, item 2 is a really good way we can improve awareness of our opportunity! Thanks!! Gonna build some way to present her our approach to supply chains that dont count a lot with recycled plastic goods

@Filagain very cool! I think you should start contacting local universites and organizations

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Hey, how practical is it to take recycled plastics and turn them into a reel for 3d printing?

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️ Hello! My name is Cain and I live in Oakland, California. I would love to help the precious plastics mission and support however I can. Wether setting up collection points or spreading the word. I also have a studio space and would be interested in setting up a machine shop.

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Just contacted Japanese company called KAYAC https://www.kayac.com/service/machino_coin (edited)

コミュニティ通貨（まちのコイン） | 面白法人カヤック

5つのデザインを楽しめる、面白法人カヤックのコーポレートサイトです。

6:11 AM

In Japanese...

6:12 AM

This company has developed a community currency called ma-chi-no-ko-i-nn (Coin of town) In Kamakura, Kanagawa prefecture.

6:14 AM

https://coin.machino.co/

まちのコイン　使えば使うほど、仲良くなるお金

まちのコインは、使えば使うほど、人と人が仲良くなるコミュニティ通貨（地域通貨）サービスです。コインを「もらう」のも「つかう」のも地域の仲間と「つながる」必要があります。利用されればされるほど、地域内外の人がつながっていくコインです。

I think I see future of PreciousPlastic

...

6:31 AM

Their philosophy is similar to us. But very interesting.

6:31 AM

"KAYAC has a unique salary system that cannot be found in any other part of the world. It is called the “Dice Pay” scheme. Every month, KAYAC’s members roll a dice to determine how much they earn."

6:31 AM

https://www.kayac.com/en/vision/message

1. The Passion Behind “The Fun-Loving Corporation” | KAYAC

With the philosophy “Create more creators”, KAYAC is a group of creators that keeps releasing unique and buzzing content including games, ads, and web services from the old town of Kamakura.

How much did they earn exactly? that sounds like gambling tbh (edited)

I don't know, but they do good stuff

8:33 AM

Their mission is to make everyone happy, and that's all:)

8:34 AM

"That said, the entire monthly salary is not determined by the roll of the dice. Each person is paid an additional sum calculated by the “basic salary + (number on the dice) %”. For example, if a member whose monthly salary is 300,000 yen rolls a 6, this person earns additional <300,000 yen x 6% = 18,000 yen> every month. This is often misunderstood, but the salary earned never decreases. Some people may say that it is inappropriate to decide a salary by rolling a dice. But our evaluation of others is not as precise as we think. There should be a reasonable explanation, but evaluation is very vulnerable to the impression your boss has on you. Then, wouldn’t it be okay to be somewhat playful about the payment scheme? It is important to see how we are evaluated in an objective way. But we do not have to feel discouraged because of evaluation by others."

8:35 AM

They are fine with it so it's fine I guess

Hi everybody, i am mahesh from india. i am machine design engineer. happy to join you all.

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Hey all, I am Ashley from the Bahamas. I’m interested in starting a PP workspace. The island I live on has zero recycling. All waste is burnt and buried. There is so much plastic littering the beaches and no where to bring it. I’m ready to try to start a business that can help clean up the island, educate the people and produce usable products that can be purchased on the island (plank boards, furniture and dish-ware). I’m excited to join this community and am open to all ideas.

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Hi there!

5:05 PM

Has anyone made a toilet seat mold yet?

I think they tend to made from thermosets or other high-temp polymers, so that they can be cleaned with steam without warping. Either way, it should have high chemical and abrasion resistance, for cleaning purposes. Assuming you go with plastic, in the first place. (edited)

@Lazy_Turtle not all toilet cover is thermosets, some are PP and PS

For our purposes, the problem is the chemical additives that give the heat and abrasion resistance. But also, some seats don't last long from all the cleaning, because they lack those properties. Basically, they're... crappy.

@Lazy_Turtle I have toyed with some ideas about randomizing payouts in the design of a crypto-currency. But only in so far as giving each successive generation a chance to catch up. That's my Socialists instinct coming through. It seems to me, one of the problems that crypto-currency hasn't solved (or even attempted to solve) is the problem of inheritance. Most billionaires inherit their fortunes. Claiming that they are entitled to it, as some kind of "birth right," (especially in light of centuries of Racist injustice in the "Global South") is just self-serving bullshit propaganda that can be safely ignored. (edited)

I don't know, but they do good stuff

@Lazy_Turtle Seems like they played too much ADD

John Oliver, whom I like, (but who is often wrong about stuff and unfortunately regularly gets suckered into being a Neo-Lib mouthpiece) did a nice illustration: (edited)

What is the best methods to shreds LDPE and extruding it?

So the answer is "not yet?"

So the answer is "not yet?" I don't know. I haven't seen it. Doesn't mean no-one has tried.

I have tried to melt LDPE in a local to melting pot to produce paving Interlock Tiles

@PP Nigeria how did it go? LDPE has the lowest melting point, only 105-115 degrees is enough

But is not reliable, that am looking for methods to shreds LDPE and extruding to product like PP

8:20 PM

@Timberstar I gas stove for co-firing for the melting pot

8:20 PM

@Timberstar I used gas stove for co-firing for the melting pot

@PP Nigeria

gas is very difficult to control the temperature... electric is better

8:22 PM

a normal electric cooker can be quite good

8:22 PM

or a sandwich press

8:23 PM

its important not to get too hot because it will produce fumes

I have seen electric cooker but of sandwich press I don't know

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Breville-Cafe-Style-Sandwich-Press/dp/B00HNQ32XG

8:25 PM

you need to use greaseproof paper to stop the plastic touching the metal or it will stick

8:26 PM

you can make very nice small flat things like this

8:27 PM

its good to melt the plastic in the sandwich press, between sheets of greaseproof paper, then take it out and squash it between two flat pieces of wood until it cools

8:29 PM

i didnt try this with LDPE though, only HDPE, which melts at around 130 degrees... thats pretty much the temperature of a sandwich press... with LDPE you would want to use low power

8:31 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUt54Oh_QwE

GrandadIsAnOldMan

HDPE first test using a sandwich/panini toaster

8:33 PM

https://www.instructables.com/id/Sandwich-Toaster-Plastic-Recycling/

Sandwich Toaster Plastic Recycling

Sandwich Toaster Plastic Recycling: Reusing household plastic waste to make things using a panini press including a lamp shade, Christmas decorations, and a heart mobile.In this 'ible I'll show a way to process some of your household waste using some pretty basic things to tur...

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Great

8:46 PM

Thanks Timberstar

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use gloves! hot plastic sticking to skin is not fun..

Ok, I will take a precaution on that

Hello, I'm a total newby here looking into building a plastic extruder like the one on the precious plastic site. I'm trying to figure out where the detail drawing is for the extrusion screw. Doesn't seem to be in the build drawings?

Yo, this is really cool

9:49 PM

Hi, new here, sorta a newbie, but i've been working on a home vaccuforming shop, and I wondered if the press on the channel could make thin sheets for that?

It can, but if you need small pieces, try a desktop oven or the panini thing, shown above. Several ways to get to the same basic thing. Compression is mostly for if you need, dense, particularly strong sheets. Also, the reheating is likely to introduce some air into the sheet. Also only applies if density or internal structure is important. Not so much surface texture.

I just thought the sheets he made were really pretty and i could use them for making props

we were talking this up a while back

10:15 PM

i think they can be made thin enough for thermo/vacuum forming

Hi i wanted to know dir

11:01 PM

during extrution

11:02 PM

does the plastic melting not produce harmful gasses

it does, not GOING TO KILL YOU gasses, but long term will be bad

11:03 PM

ventilation is a easy fox for most cases

11:04 PM

later on proper masks + fume extractors/treaters may be needed

Actually i am thinking of commercialising the idea and recycle and produce items at a very large scale and sell them domestically as well as nationally.i also will get in talks with the government and state or district level to have them give me projects. But i am afraid after producing considerable output these items will be producing residual gases. Please educate me as i am new at this.

Hi, I'm a professional steel parts manufacturer, looking at the feasibility of making garage door parts from recycled plastic. Does anyone know about the properties for a plastic that will tolerate heat & cold, not fail, easy to mold & extrude .... also could take the sun. Thanks so much if anyone has this knowledge. (edited)

Yes

6:14 AM

I also want to know

Hello! With a friend we are very excited to start a business. The big question is to know if it is profitable or not, it is what should happen to everyone. How much plastic do I need to build a beam of a certain length? is there an equation for this? Thank you!

My guess is that it should be profitable if you are able to sell products on a daily basis, but it would take time. But things can vary, so use https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business/workspacecalculator workspace calcurator if you want a precise data

8:07 AM

@L00p First, know your target. I think then build or order molds. Do some research offline or online... both if possible

8:08 AM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business/actionplan

8:08 AM

What's your goal?

Thanks for the reply, I'm going to start by reading those links. The objective is to create something from recycled plastic and sell it, we still do not know what to create.

Start thinking about what's a good product from many perspectives:) it's crucial

8:28 AM

Start with your friends, ask your friends to ask their friends what's needed

How do you guys define open-source and free? Is sharing a percentage of profit open-source? I am starting to see the benefits of franchaise

8:58 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchising

9:01 AM

If the cycle goes well, PPHQ might be able to support initial investments

9:01 AM

Is it harder to start a business or continue a business?

@Lazy_Turtle : Open-Source & Free software are 2 different things and have their origins in software development, starting with the appearance of the first computers back in 1970 ; you can't really apply it to DIY like machinery as PP. However, Opensource and free software come together with the same intentions & philosophies : contribute to the public domain (see GPL license which embodies exactly this) , with no strings attached (ie: make profit from users). The only conditions for a open source spirited license is that others also open source their work based on the original (contribute back)- as far I can see, there is only 1% doing that in PP. Looking at our past attempts, contributing back isn't exactly desired or supported by 'PPHQ' which seems rather on another track and apparently still has to answer lots of the questions they raised doing a 'Open Source Project'. You might speak rather of 'Freemium' (ie: pay patreon to get more support, etc... ).

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Simple question:

10:27 AM

What is our relationship with PPHQ?

10:28 AM

@Deleted User I will be Zooming for an hour in few min.

relation: how about project buddies ?

Huh ok

10:31 AM

We are kind of a franchise, except everything* is open-source and free.

10:31 AM

That's what I thought:)

10:33 AM

Patrons should be a side-fuel for PP?

Franchise, that's rather a sad thing for the project but unfortunately, that might fit - we wanted more than just this - it needs more

There are literally thousands of willing and interested resources out there which could give us a PP v6 in little time actually.

10:36 AM

I don't know much about Patreon, I consider it 'donations' and basing things on 'donations' is a bad idea, as we can see.

10:36 AM

It's alright though to pay server fees .. (edited)

Sustainability...

Far from that I am afraid, Living from Patreon and micro donations isn't sustainable, actually I consider it dangerous for the individuals doing that since you better start thinking about your retirement, live insurances, .... (edited)

Time to learn Linear Function

have fun

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thx

So i can produce plastic bricks and sell them independently ? Please tell me @Deleted User

sure, nobody will hold you back

- there might problems with regulations, eg: fire

@Deleted User i want to prof

Can you add some details ? not sure I understood 'prof'

I guess "prove"

i want to produce some samples first and i Dont knowif producing the bricks using extrusion would produce pollution and gasses

indoor usage might be alright, I don't have data but you can look this up per plastic type. There is lots about UV in the forum already.

11:33 AM

However, I won't put a living being for longer in such place

See i have the space some money and determination and i am tired of researching . I just want to set up a workshop but i am not from a science background i chose commerce

You're funny, workshop comes I guess with lots lots lots of researching

11:35 AM

So be warned, bricks with sun exposure come with problems, lots of problems

11:36 AM

As with fire, you need a special additive to pass building regulations.

11:36 AM

Can't remember the name - but when adding it, you can't recycle it anymore.

11:36 AM

I also don't know the market you're aiming for

Action plan is an option

I just want to set up small structures with them like bus stands and

Action-Plan_A0.pdf

1.02 MB

@Lazy_Turtle is very busy learning math right now -

But sun is drawbavck

Actually Japanese:)

I'd try it, even without additives, you can limit just the range of applications for your bricks

11:38 AM

back to work, ...

11:39 AM

not sure though you can make the bricks UV and fire prove, either way, it's not recyclable anymore (edited)

I can get in touch with a scientist and experiment in labs

11:40 AM

okaythank you so much

11:41 AM

you all are very helpful and it is a very nice community

try the forum : https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00YlgQ58wAUdouKd_QBrjZoMb7eUg%3A1590486113144&ei=YeTMXuGiCImWa8z8s5AD&q=uv+fire+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&oq=uv+fire+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzoECCMQJ1CBSliBSmDAUGgAcAB4AIABcogBxQKSAQMwLjOYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwih16y-ntHpAhUJyxoKHUz-DDIQ4dUDCAw&uact=5

Thank you @Deleted User you da best

I doubt that - i am possibly just loud, or more active, no idea ... you're welcome

Hi guys, I'd like to know if there's some kind of guide that gives the most efficient heating temperatures, rotation speed, heating time and other tweakable settings on the extrusion machine for the different plastic types. I'm kind of new here so sorry if this isn't the right place to ask or if this has already been said (I couldn't find very specific informations in the starterkits)

Forced obsolescence is looming.

No more Discord updates for my Android version. Man, I hate when they do this.

3 Months short of a year, I've been on this. Whatever features I don't yet have, I won't get without buying a new device. Or have to log into the web app. Thanks, Google.

10:38 PM

The "right to repair" has barely started getting social traction, especially now, with supply-chains disrupted. Maybe in 20 years people will start to demand the "right to upgrade."

yeah, my receipt to this is buying a proper workstation each 6-8 years, and from time to time a cheap throw away mobile, each 2-5 years, I´d love to have my iphone4 metal back, with the version just before they ruined it with the last update, more of a mp3 player anyway

clunky as hell but you can make rpi based stuff

until you have to work with it (cad, video, chrome), RPI isn't really good enough for running an extrusion touchscreen.

need to make a FLOS design of one of those "CNC Controller" panels

I looked for a "jail-breaked" rooted version of Android, when I first got the tablet. But it was still under warranty then and I mostly wanted it to show video clips to students. I didn't expect it to become useful to communication. I was new to Android. Now, the communication aspect has become central. (edited)

tricks are for kids

Rooted versions can create a virtual memory partition of at least 4 GB. With higher virtual RAM, upgrading the OS is theoretically possible. They just don't want consumers to do it. But the only way to try, involves a potentially irreversible firmware hack. If it fails, you have an expensive plastic and silicon "brick". Maybe not for real pros, but for most folks. I might try it eventually, for the sake of interest, if the local Repair Café can help out with spare parts. (edited)

Hey, I'm new to all this but I'm interested in learning about extruders. Especially small scale extruders. I was looking at screw design recently and was blown away by how complex they can be, especially the twin screws! I'm curious what would be necessary to get really quick colour transitions and what tradeoffs that might come with. (edited)

Alrighty, signing off for the day, i'll be back in ~9-12 hours or so

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Hello humans, can someone point me into the directions of how to make a how to? I've asked this before but needed a few more things before i could make this. I'm ready now and really want to share my how to

7:32 AM

Disregard that, the button on how to make a how to didn't pop up at first but after refreshing the page it did lol.

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/create/howto If you need:)

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7:38 AM

Currently working on How-to-get-funding

7:39 AM

It would be great if there is a feature to collaborate with people on how-tos in the future. I will go to #deleted-channel

I'm back online now fyi

2:48 PM

i think meetings/design sprints on business models + in depth plans would be good, if not already done

@Lazy_Turtle Hi there! Look, I'm funding, my almost-investor asked more market data, and I build this research: https://forms.gle/c2DWYccBtCWvRXpK6 already in 3 languages, soon german too, I'll make the data I can available for other people interested in more information, could you help me spread the results once its ready? We need another 2 weeks for collecting answers at least...

¡Necesitamos que recolectes datos antes de empezar a reciclar!

Nuestro objetivo es acceder a un conocimiento más amplio sobre el universo del reciclaje de plástico, de pequeña a mediana escala. Los resultados de esta encuesta darán datos adicionales para una relación inversionista + startup que acaba de comenzar dentro de un proyecto espe...

5:12 PM

This is spanish version

5:12 PM

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSei8TPnr0YZbuqgGdjRP7UX5cEbA1_N8chmZJHXG7zHrGyG-g/viewform portuguese

Precisamos de você para angariar dados antes de começar a reciclar!

Nosso objetivo é acessar um conhecimento mais amplo sobre o universo da reciclagem de plástico da pequena à média escala. Os resultados desta pesquisa darão dados adicionais para uma relação investidor + startup que acaba de começar dentro de um projeto específico no Brasil ch...

5:13 PM

https://forms.gle/BW5dUv8NArMDekRz5 english

Help us know better before we start plastic recycling!

We aim at creating wider knowledge among the universe of small / medium scale PLASTIC RECYCLING! Besides, the results of this research will give aditional, real world data for an investor + startup relationship that just started within a specific project in Brazil called Plasm...

5:16 PM

And a pitch deck is GREAT tool to get funded, so this one here is from the platform as a service I build around PP processes: https://drive.google.com/open?id=12sa747civlg3A04wKhicLv5MIT7skUMZ

Plasmo Hub para condomínios.pdf

5:17 PM

its based on applying our minimum viable product at a safe residencial place and testing some key performance indicators in the first 2 years

5:18 PM

I'm here if you want to collaborate, and my whatsapp is +5511999351013

ya girl is new to all this and want to do something this summer. I have ZERO knowledge on how to make a shredder but wanna learn and do it. Any help?

Unless your nearest workspace or machine shop can help you (maybe with a learnership), probably not. It would be great to produce detailed video tutorials, but that's many, many, many hours of filming and editing. (edited)

@_cinematica_ any "makerspaces" / "hackerspaces" nearby?

yeah

Yeah, that helps, because most people don't have the right tools lying around. Using a community tool library helps a lot.

can't hand cutting (with a template) + manual sharpening (plus some post processing for tolerances if needed) make most of the parts? (edited)

cool thx Ima talk to them

The consensus seems to be that the time-investment and frustration involved will discourage absolute beginners. Also, learning the tools prepares you for future builds, repairs and upgrades. "Work smart, not hard."

luckily i have nothing better to do rn

Yeah, depending on your personal circumstances, your own time costs you whatever you think it does. Here, in Africa, people often make due with hand-crafting, mostly due to a lack of alternatives. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i think with a template and an oxy-fuel or a plasma torch, should be SOMEWHAT easy (i haven't done hands on, so don't quote me lol), main work would be the post processing IF tolerances even matter imo

7:40 PM

also would require more labor than a cnc torch table

7:40 PM

ose has one though IF INTRESTED (infomercial voice)

I've heard a critique about the heat from a welder weakening the metal edges. The guy told me, "spend some money on the laser... It's worth it, in the end."

You could drill holes through sheet metal, along the template lines, and then file them down. But, that's where the mentioned time and frustration comes in.

oxy-fuel torches are cheap short term

7:59 PM

anyone have heat treating kilns

8:00 PM

seen em online

8:00 PM

how common in the "real world"

Well, depending on your living environment, messing with high heat stuff, might be a no-go, either way. I'm in a small apartment, for example.

definetly

8:04 PM

i mean garage/makerspace level

8:04 PM

i'd say most PP stuf outside of any FDM work is almost all that level

Hello. I'm new. Where can I ask a question about a dimension for the shredder table I am missing?

@Bujinkan , there is a measure tool : https://myhub.autodesk360.com/ue2b6df80/g/shares/SH7f1edQT22b515c761e9c0d5d816f2e38fd Yeah pretty much all machines are missing drawings with dimensions. This should be part of the "definition of done", indeed. Apparently folks have to do this from scratch before sending it out for quote. (edited)

Hello

1:29 AM

I recently stumbled upon this project and it's pretty awesome

THANKS!

1:36 AM

you have a makerspace/club that can use it?

I started this project: https://wikifactory.com/@hominidae/arcticmicrofactory

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2:31 AM

How likely is that a 20 foot sea container can be converted to use as a portable recycling centre?

2:31 AM

I'm hoping to put a precious plastic design in for processing plastic but I'd also like to do aluminum, aluminum can and copper wire recycling

definetly!

2:33 AM

PP did that in a video, sort of, could use some changes

I submitted a recycling project to the hackday 200 prize

2:33 AM

https://hackaday.io/project/171954-aluminum-recycling-micro-factory

Aluminum Recycling Micro Factory

The concept behind this project is to explore the idea of directly recycling aluminum at home. It takes approximately 3 kilowatts of energy to heat aluminum to the 700 degrees Celsius needed to melt it in a crucible. There are three things that need to be done in order to pr...

youtube.com/watch?v=IhYHzKHH0CQ

2:33 AM

OOO i love it!

Currently hoping to tackle integrating a popcan shredder into a small form factor to process a dumped plastic bag of cans

you should DEFINETLY check out "Open Source Ecology" have you heard of them at all?

Looking now

i can grab links if need be?

2:35 AM

essentially just an Open Source Hardware group

2:35 AM

for...everything

Yeah?

2:36 AM

I'm hoping to find collaborators interested in the idea

2:36 AM

Down the road, I'd like to apply for grants to try the idea out up here in the Canadian north

as of now it is mainly technical stuff...LIKE RECYCLING, so i think you would be a great contributor/developer

The arctic is a perfect environment for it.

2:37 AM

The cost of shipping goods is insanely expensive. And if you can turn trash into products, you can prevent it from polluting the local environment but it's also a win-win because then goods don't need to be shipped here.

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that and rural/developing areas IMO

2:38 AM

where existing supply chains may be bad as well

Definitely. Preventing the transport of materials needlessly back and forth is pretty compelling

i don't know what you found, but i'll give you the "boilerplate/copypasta" i have on all the ose links:

2:40 AM

Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page

Cool

ALRIGHTY, probably logging off for today, be on in ~8-12 hours again

i ' m b a c k

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Anyone have a Universal Test Machine for testing properties of prints/filament/parts?

1:32 PM

not lab grade, but diy too if need be? (edited)

Hello people! How can I get my space on the community map on the website?

anyone ever used https://www.3dhubs.com/ for sourcing suppliers for precious plastic parts?

3D Hubs | On-demand Manufacturing: Quotes in Seconds, Parts in Days

From prototypes to end parts. Get your parts into production in less than 5 minutes. Services: 3D Printing ● CNC Machining ● Injection Molding

6:28 PM

@Fritz @easymoulds what's your thought on them?

expensive but definitely an option

6:30 PM

also depending on the company

6:30 PM

almost guaranteed quality

6:31 PM

should be "assemble ready" ie no post processing / "fixing"

You can also walk into the next industrial plot, 1-2-3/5 of the price - makes sense only in bulk anyways, prices are getting ok after 20+ items. For some reason I still love to mill my stuff myself

The transmission bracket on the Arbor press would be around 100$, If I buy 50+, it's just 8$ which is extremely cheap, considering that I put 2 hours in that.

diy is best imo, but may not always be do-able

7:07 PM

then, in those cases, buy online and/or from some local person

Does Precious Plastic have a list of affordable CNC plasma/water/etc cutting services?

@Eric Lotze If you have to make 20 pieces in a row, trust me - you don't give a damn about ❤️ to DIY - I am already starting to roll out special machining carpets, there is quite a health tag attached to this work

definetly

But yeah, dreaming since long about a Tormach in my basement

granted for runs over 1-5, especially if 1 person, i'd say automate as much as possible...

7:10 PM

ie makerspace/industrial

7:10 PM

not garage level lol

7:10 PM

and always more people can help, ose calls this "swarm builds"

@sirukin : not yet, as far I know - not directly at least, you can always message those shredder box makers, they seem to have dirt cheap sources - just send them the files

@Joseph ive used them for 3d printing, it was a very good service,you get to chat personally with the engineer doing the job.. but a bit expensive (edited)

Somebody imagines please PP as service hub to small injection services

just learned about the specific method the other day, BUT

7:14 PM

has anyone tried PP -> ceramic shell -> investment molding?

seriously, I have plenty of small parts which need a cheaper source - the market for small pieces is monopolised since long here in the EU as I heard (edited)

@Deleted User you could try tendering on https://www.machining-4u.co.uk/, you put the job file up and people quote for it (edited)

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7:16 PM

maybe there is a similar one for spain

but with that, an induction furnace, and some PP machine/ a 3d printer

7:17 PM

you could CHURN OUT precision metal parts

7:17 PM

more so than even a greensand or plaster cast system

7:17 PM

main limit would be the furnace...

7:17 PM

and if biogas, or pyrolysis oil is used for the furnace heat...

i need a translator for @Eric Lotze's message sometime :-))

how so, what can i clarify?

decrypted it, no worry

good, what do you think?

lots of R&D, a shit load of it, like years

how so?

@Eric Lotze well, that's the thing usually, you can always make something work & up - and possibly you can impress somebody with that - but you actually now, it's crap - documentation wise, process wise, and a few other thousand things

(edited)

7:24 PM

@Timberstar is beating it, that's an awesome system which might sell like good bread

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i'll spam links, and you can tell me if that changes anything, short of actually having funds + doing it lol, sound good?

can you rephrase ? had my second beer early today

o o f

@Eric Lotze - the point I am trying to make is : whatever your idea is - it's a long way to file out each little detail - I am still busy with v3, and a long time to absorb v4 fully.

no coding while drunk ya goof

Oh, I'd need liters to get drunk

i have links to wiki pages for all those details though

Then work out the pipe and present it here, I will link it as well

can i post that in a huge stack/wordwall, have you review it, then post talk @Deleted User ?

7:29 PM

alrighty

7:29 PM

first off for the casting:

7:29 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/3D_Printed_Part_to_Metal_Part_Workflows

3D Printed Part to Metal Part Workflows

7:29 PM

metal can be ots, or scrap

in theory, yes

there is legit in practice links in those links though!

7:30 PM

next to the metalwork itself:

I am sure off it - til somebody has to do it; I personally don't trust anyone/anything before I didn't do it myself first

then replicate it with your funds/kit/expertise

7:31 PM

anywho:

7:31 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Metal_Recycling_%2B_Refining_Construction_Set

OpenSource_Metal_Recycling%2B_Refining_Construction_Set

7:31 PM

not ALL of those links are non-placeholder

draw.io gives you good tools to document the pipe

but redneck forges are COMMON (edited)

7:31 PM

but i'm lazy

7:31 PM

anywho

7:32 PM

how do you feel about the metal melting + pouring aspect?

horrible

why?

i did a few casts. it's toxic, you need a special place, special gear, and as always with those things : a shit load of time

i started building one of those redneck forges... realized its quite a lot of effort to go to, and then actually melting metal, you really need a good reason to do it

time is fine for many, also toxic = ventilation + mask, just like plastic no?

7:35 PM

also the "good reason" would be pp machine parts...

'just' ...

no aluminium fumes are really nasty

7:35 PM

affect the brain

what about steel and other metals, more heat, but is doable? (edited)

have to go back to work, will read later

ok

everything is doable, you just need a good enough reason

yeah - here's my favourite yt channel about casting, makes me cry - knowing nothing and understand that YT is just a little scratch on the surface, my metal gurus always laugh at me when I pull some YT trick. https://www.youtube.com/user/luckygen1001/videos (edited)

luckygen1001

i always thought it would be ace to melt cans into billets for the lathe but in the end its cheaper to buy a big lump of ali

yep

8:00 PM

same with plastic though

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i'm taking an hour or so break fyi (edited)

That would be AFK (Away For Keyboard) 1h in gamer lingo.

I know, I'm so hip. (edited)

Hi @everyone We are doing a Q&A in the next monthly news. Let us know your questions and we will answer. You got 24 hours. And make sure to put an emoji or something to other questions you like so we can filter out the best ones. GO!

(edited)

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What is your favorite projects?

(edited)

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Next: is PP Eindhoven team broke, when do they proceed with fixes, updates, and more important, R&D ?

? (edited)

Are there going to be more opportunities for people from around the world to join the team in Eindhoven or anywhere else?

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2

...

9:31 PM

Where should we type the questions?

Edit THIS IS A QUESTION

(edited)

Which phase will Precious Plastic be in when it offers the machinery for mass production of recycled plastic products?

Is there a potential public launch date for One Army? (And what else can we do to help it?)

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Should Precious Plastic team up with Boy & Girl Scouts

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2

what are the best ways to contribute to the Precious Plastic ecosystem during this current pandemic?

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2

Can recycled plastic literally be made into parts of plastic shredders / melters ?

it’s big brain time

@logo wait what (edited)

9:36 PM

how are you here

@anna that was a good question you had asked (the one on top of mine)

@anna you know

Which of these are the main bottlenecks for plastics production? a) Is it hard to get quality raw product? b) Getting that product into something people want? c) Finding people to purchase or consume your recycled goods?

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1

FYI: Boy Scouts have filed for bankruptcy due to lawsuits for child molestation. So, no, on that one.

1

... darn it

9:40 PM

... do anyone sell flower pots for cheap?

@Precious Plastic How is Project Kamp coming along?

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Hardest problem the PP have tried to tackle without success and why?

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9:41 PM

**PP team

Is recycled plastic products easy to sell?

I could fill a video with each question - go ahead

Are there any other pilot projects (like you did in Kenya and Pantagonia) planned in upcoming months/years ? :D

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Do we need to type @ precious plastic in order to actually let you guys see it?

9:46 PM

Yay...

Rather use a tag like [HQQA]. Then they will be listed as search results.

9:48 PM

Of course, the easiest thing is just having a temporary channel until tomorrow.

No worries we are reading.. But try to keep it clean

V4 just released, how would you like to see it mature and stabilize? What kind of things do you hope it will achieve?

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After i’ve seen your revived V4 I’m eager to revise my Skils workshop hub idea and maybe apply for funding this time

What is the main goal precious plastic wants to archieve in 2020?

2

stayin alive

1

10:05 PM

...

10:05 PM

whyyyy

10:06 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c

BeeGeesVEVO

Bee Gees - Stayin' Alive (Official Music Video)

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Working on building a solar powered version of the shredder pro. In what areas do you think the shredder program could use design optimization or improvement?

2

should i build a small bicycle powered shredder? Can those shredder actually shred well?

1

You can make it work with a heavy/big flywheel, something like a spin bike flywheel. Shredding speed will be slow. Have a look at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxz3nAcZquY&ab_channel=DaveHakkensCommunity https://davehakkens.nl/community/precious-plastic-shanghai/

Dave Hakkens Community

Make a bike powered plastic shredder #preciousplastic

mattia

Precious Plastic Shanghai

- Dave Hakkens

Passion and dedication are paramount to create a successful Precious Plastic workspace. The guys at Precious Plastic Shanghai are the best example of how full commitment, persistent enthusiasm and eagerness Read more...

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Thanks @xXxOlivierxXx

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What do you think is the place of Precious Plastic Universe in a more resilient, local ecosystem ? Specifically, did you research the possible synergies with other local intiatives such as Fablabs, maker/hackerspaces, transition towns, etc ? (V4 trailer really gave that "resilient green town" vibe)

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Where can I find the V4 trailer?

@simplexity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os7dREQ00l4 (edited)

Precious Plastic Universe: a big bang for plastic recycling

Hi @Precious Plastic I'm Yulio From Indonesia. Me and my friend are planning to make a brand that sell furniture products made with precious plastic machinery. My question is how does my brand can contribute to the development of precious plastics as a global community and also the people around us? My second question is how to keep @Precious Plastic as global community sustainable?--Especially from financial prespective. Because i think that if you have financial sufficiency, you can give more impact without feeling worry about it again. This is what make me decide to make a brand first. Thanks

what happened to the rotomold project?

regarding contribution guide, yes this needs to be clarified for a few levels - I am working on this since a while. There are currently a few tools but best is always to think ahead, and better, what´s best for your team.

why are we not using water cooled molds?

@Butte (PP Philippines) : that´s still a QA session here right now, for the Eindhoven team though

12:53 AM

either way, roto or water cooled, a nice forum project, i am all in

So i can contribute in developing tools according to the equipment we use to make our product?

Yes, there is a dedicated team just for transforming content and contributions in whatever format. Guaranteed. Currently we´re a little slow but nothing is getting lost or unseen, we make sure of that.

1:04 AM

send me the material as DM, we take care about the rest-

That is our favourized structure for community contributions, we use the same for daily work : /cad/ /drawings /renderings /production (NC files, production drawings) /bazar (product descriptions) /media (your pictures) /media/social (your clients social media, good for making case studies) /vendor (all your dependencies) /bom.xls (bill of materials) /laser (laser files, if any) /howtos /howtos/this procedure/pictures ... /resources (any thing which helps to create media material, icons, links, ...) easy, after all, (edited)

sincerely, your pp unofficial library team

@Precious Plastic I know this is a BIG question, and if there is not enough time it's fine, (edited)

2:45 AM

What's your thought on Precious Plastic Currency?

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2:47 AM

Oh yeah, How about your workspace? Is Project Kamp coming with it? ( @xXxOlivierxXx )

SO short break turned into...SOMETHING, whel i'm back now...and caffeinated

3:06 AM

@Frederik C (ZA) that is the right lingo according to youngin' gaming me! made me smile lol

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That was a long hour.

y u p

3:12 AM

turned from snack to arguement + dinner + shower

3:12 AM

so s o m e t h i n

@Lazy_Turtle I think your FAQ bot should @mention the person it is responding to, in the "bot answers" channel. And/or other users can trigger it with a predefined FAQ tag. For example: Let's say you asked about a bike-powered shredder. Someone types !faq [@]Ryoma-RecycleNaga#5470 +shredder +bike You get @mentioned in the response channel with the answer text and any relevant links. (edited)

3:29 AM

Speaking of which, here's another one: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605683727770583050/675267533594689546

Or someone can just trigger the FAQ in the answers channel and then ping the person. Something like that. Truth be told, a quick keyword search is not that hard. But it helps to specifically know what you're looking for. Like, when I draw a blank on what something was called, I usually remember something someone said, that helps me find it.

3:44 AM

The country is reopening on Sunday at midnight. So, the beach will be open again. Yay.

But we haven't had our main infection surge yet. Lockdown could restart again if the hospitals and field hospitals get flooded.

Ok

3:46 AM

Currently working on linking map and discord to find people easily

3:49 AM

I might need to make another bot with python

3:49 AM

I don't know python

give an update on the plastic scanners tech thats been worked on

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Also with a properly subject-tagged FAQ channel, I don't think a bot would even really be necessary.

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4:04 AM

You search the tags, scroll one or two posts in the results list, select "Share", copy&paste, ping the username. Done. Bots can also DM people. That's also an option.

Yeah there is a captcha

4:04 AM

I made

4:05 AM

Would you re-join PP galaxy?

4:06 AM

To test?

Let me just double-check I still have a valid invite.

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i MAY join, am currently drowning in the expanse of discord's scale, but may have to finally join lol (edited)

Well, how many servers are you on?

Maybe separate business and fun?

@Frederik C (ZA) yes

5:22 AM

just have a "water cooler" channel

5:22 AM

or something

5:22 AM

also i love conversations teleporting in and out of discord servers (edited)

5:23 AM

like "Thor: Dark World" but business jargon, and my dumb jokes/rants

Well, in my experience, one chat channel always gets clogged. Especially with a wide range of time-zones. When you get back the next day, there are 300 messages. No point in even trying, then.

5:27 AM

I like having an #off-topic for completely random stuff. (edited)

exactly

5:28 AM

and can be muted if people don't like it

I mute 90% of the servers at the moment. Not interested in stupid virus comments. And they are not aimed at important subjects, anyway. Moderator announcements are sufficient. I've learned just because a YouTube channel is smart, doesn't mean the viewers will be smart.

y u p

5:36 AM

Actually, I have no unread stuff in this server at the moment

same, outside of my country mutes, due to language (and geographical) gaps

I had a few months of naive wishful thinking about being able to reach some kind of "inner circle" with the content creators at the center. It doesn't work like that. The Discord is the mosh pit, not the green room.

the movie the green room?

5:45 AM

i'd hope not

5:45 AM

mosh pit is safer lol

5:45 AM

and that SAYS something

A "green room" is a backstage lounge where performers hang out before they go on stage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Room_(film)

Green Room (film)

Green Room is a 2015 American horror-thriller film written and directed by Jeremy Saulnier, and produced by Neil Kopp, Victor Moyers and Anish Savjani. Starring Anton Yelchin, Imogen Poots and Patrick Stewart, the film focuses on a punk band who find themselves attacked by neo...

5:48 AM

also a spookee movie

5:48 AM

in a green room

What about "The Scary Door"?

not the same ring i guess lol

5:53 AM

sounds like some poorly translated film

5:53 AM

i loved the (semi) french "as above so below" even as a native english speaker

5:53 AM

GRANTED i did live in brussels for a while as a kid

5:53 AM

and french is goofy imo coming from english

5:54 AM

MON DUE (misspelled that i bet, sorry)

5:54 AM

and all the french swears when monsters show up

5:54 AM

good stuff

The origin of the term seems to be unclear, but seems to come from Shakespearean times. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_room

Green room

In show business, the green room is the space in a theatre or similar venue that functions as a waiting room and lounge for performers before, during and after a performance or show when they are not engaged on stage. Green rooms typically have seating for the performers, such...

6:01 AM

I did some stage acting. I assume that's why I know it. But musicians and comedians would too.

Logging off for the night, be back in 6-12hrs

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Would anyone be interested in a how to on these bird feeders or not what people are after?

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@Zero Plastics Australia I think any type of how-to is healthy for the upcycling and recycling initiative

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alrighty, i ' m b a c k

1:30 PM

anyone, with kit, willing to try adding fine charcoal powder as dye?

Hello Dave Hakkens I hail from Trinidad & would be implementing your methods along with my own to reduce our plastic waste!

Had to babysit younger sibling for a bit, should be back at work on all this for a while now for a few hours

6:17 PM

@SirMatthew That sounds great, good luck! Feel free to ask questions, i can answer to the best of my knowledge/ability.

6:18 PM

also feel free to use native language if need be, we have lots of potential translators, and software, no need to be uncomfortable IMO

i read that as "angled beans" at first

Whom should I speak to at OSE about collaborating on the popcan processor?

is me in dm right now ok, same for anyone else, essentially apply on the website and email marcin!

3:23 AM

Logging off for the night, be back in 6-12hrs, so try "OSE Wiki" to apply for a wiki account (just an anti-bot thing it should take a day and no skills really needed for ANY OF YOU PEOPLE to apply)

3:23 AM

if that fails talk to me in 6-12 hrs?

3:23 AM

ping me if need be!

Rgr that

also feel free to use native language if need be, we have lots of potential translators, and software, no need to be uncomfortable IMO

@Eric Lotze i completely understand we Do speak English here in Trinidad Eh lol

4:03 AM

Yet to build my shop.... Raspect @sirukin

hello

was wondering if any1 did marbles out of plastic bottles?

I'm just watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7bIGKIHT0c

Monthly News #26 - How we spent half of our €300.000

5:47 AM

In regard to sorting plastic, has anyone looked at what they do in some aluminum recycling plants?

5:48 AM

They basically use a giant shredder to turn aluminum window frames in one of the videos down into granular chunks

5:48 AM

Then, an x-ray machine determines the material composition on a fast moving conveyor belt. When the X-ray machine detects a material that doesn't belong, a jet of air propels that piece away from a downward facing funnel.

5:49 AM

I'll try to find the video

5:49 AM

Here is it

5:49 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chIFt2A9MRI

Norsk Hydro

Aluminium recycling - How it works by Norsk Hydro

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5:50 AM

Process for identifying material starts at 5 minutes in

hi i would like to know how we can make PET fiber from bottles

@Eric Lotze i completely understand we Do speak English here in Trinidad Eh lol

@SirMatthew i guess, and florida is bilingual with spanish (ESPECIALLY south florida), but mi espanol is muy malo IMO

1:24 PM

@sirukin look at the #deleted-channel bit, i had some plots !

hi!

1:24 PM

good morning

hello!

thanks for creating pp its amazing!

1:26 PM

is it any way possible to recycle bottlesto make 3d printing film?

1:26 PM

**filament

what type of plastic are the bottles?

regular soda bottles that can be colected or purchased from collectors in ecuador... im not fully shure what type of plastic not even the caps are marked with numbers

i would assume they are PET then, also i can grab a number chart for you!

1:33 PM

niceeeee!!! thanks so much!

1:34 PM

since all this world lockdown ive been locked out in the beach

one more thing to note, before answering the fdm filament bit:

1:34 PM

PET hydrolyses at melting point, so needs to be VERY dry (edited)

oh

1:35 PM

i see

to the point of pre-dry, dry ish wworkspace

1:35 PM

it IS doable

1:35 PM

just needs work/time/a good workflow

1:35 PM

i am intrested in developing this as as you said PET is everywhere lol

1:36 PM

that would be the "hard" yet better way

1:36 PM

easy method is pyrolyse it, scrub the waste gas of pollutants, and use it as fuel

1:36 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Fuel_Agnostic_Pyrolysis_Batch_Kiln

Open Source Fuel Agnostic Pyrolysis Batch Kiln

pyrolyse pet?

1:37 PM

oh wow.

1:37 PM

never thought of that..

essentially breaks hydrocarbons back down to crude oil + reactants

1:37 PM

main issue is pollution + toxicity of products, and waste

1:37 PM

but if careful, and/or it is rarely used

1:38 PM

also better than being biodigested in an animal...

1:38 PM

in my opinion at least lol

1:38 PM

i need some people to develop stuff with, so feel free to dive in!

for shure man! im all up for creating a brave new world..

1:42 PM

in a nutshell its easier to pyrolise pet than to reprocess it due to the water in the bottles, and that they are dirty... note taken!

1:42 PM

ill be tinking up ways

do you know any CAD ?

im starting to use fusion 360

good, good!

and i have a cnc back home that i work wid

G O A L S

4:03 PM

aaaaaaaaaaa

with illustrator and artcam

4:03 PM

nice

have you ever tried FreeCAD or OnShape (not very good, but FULLY open source, for soapbox ppl like me) ?

4:04 PM

are they "capable" like autodesk/fusion?

4:04 PM

or just os half baked trash

i was using freecad for a while but i was going nowhere

same

fusion gives a free license not for comercial use for hobbyist and learners

OnShape seems DECENT imo

never used it

and is like fusion yet FLOSS ?

4:06 PM

not too important, ANYWHO

what is FLOSS ? im sorry..

sorry my abreviations are t h i c k

4:06 PM

so um

lol

Fully Libre Open Source Software

ah no

essentially distills the rabbit hole of license law into (edited)

i dont think so

"it IS open source dammit, OS IS OS"

4:07 PM

anywho

4:08 PM

since you know cad (any is fine, i'm just an OS nerd lol), have kickass kit (CNC right?) would you want to do some more "full time" (-ish no deadlines, is volunteer, and is sorta you decide what to do) development?

that be amazing!

4:17 PM

BUT i was caugh off guard working at the beach in ecologic brick factory ( my dads) and well there was lockdown and im stuck here for months now

4:19 PM

the cnc router is in the capital city (Quito )

sounds cool af, i was plotting how to apply ose, and pp to my local library, food bank, and animal shelter lol

4:19 PM

plotting while mopping floors, cooking soup etc lol

4:19 PM

AND AN OPEN SOURCE THING THEEEEEEEEEEEERE

4:19 PM

anywho

4:20 PM

we can do precious plastic stuff here fine i think?

4:20 PM

i used an abbreviation, have you heard of OSE?

no sir i have not

alrighty, boilerplate/copypasta time lol:

4:24 PM

So first the rant on what OSE is Basically a group dedicated to making all the open source hardware needed to build/run a small town/farm. Complex to explain so perhaps watch the ted talk and check it out? Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page

that sounds nice nice

4:34 PM

i have to run to town do some chores get some stuff done and ill be back for moar of this wholesome learning experience!

4:34 PM

have a fine dandy day sir!

you too! feel free to dm / "at" me later

Good morning

hello!

Dear friends : I am looking for PET Fiber making machine , is there an idea how to make it ?

the melting is simple, drying the PET is the main issue

9:16 PM

@ahmad al zayat i would LOVE to develop one with you though

9:16 PM

also use your native language if need be, no pressure here

melting PET is not simple, compared to other plastics there is a narrow band between melting point and burning

thank you appreciate

on another note: space launch hyyyyyyyyyyype

9:17 PM

@Timberstar intresting i thought the hydrolysis when wet and hot was the issue, good to know (edited)

do you have a picture of the machine ?

PET, +/- 0.5 degc, good luck with that, for each PET type & bottle, it's different

best thing for us to do with PET bottles is to cut the tops off and grow plants in them (edited)

or pyrolyse into fuels

9:18 PM

/plastic precursor petrochemicals

actully i can make bottles and jars but i need the fiber from PET

cool, can you share the design files here, or in a github?

9:19 PM

also i am developing this stuff:

9:19 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Fuel_Agnostic_Pyrolysis_Batch_Kiln

Open Source Fuel Agnostic Pyrolysis Batch Kiln

9:19 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Filament_extruder

Filament extruder

9:19 PM

main issues are lack of devs

9:19 PM

ESPECIALLY PID stuff

9:20 PM

so "calling all help" and whatnot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5mBTHPTqjU

Jose Luis Cardoso

Reciclado de llantas y de plásticos de desecho

awesome!

3 minutes to space x launch!

could make good insulation

9:20 PM

shit not 10

9:20 PM

?!?

9:20 PM

byeeeeeeeeeeee

9:20 PM

going to tv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZsnKGV8TE

SpaceX

Crew Demo-2

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9:21 PM

Can't wait for that epic countdown

@Eric Lotze : there's good research done in the forum : https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/plastics-related-stories-in-the-media/ ~ pyrolyse doesn't seem to make up much after all. just saying.

makes sense, English is odd

I have a few updates for the can recycling. Mind giving your take on what I have to say?

11:00 PM

Induction heating might be the best solution.

11:00 PM

All energy expended is expressed in the aluminum with little wasted energy

11:01 PM

You can also get the aluminum to very high temperatures resulting in any impurities burning off

11:01 PM

You aren't required to handle the graphite crucible as often, resulting the crucible lasting much longer

11:03 PM

Hopper dumps into shredder, shredder dumps into crucible, induction coil heats aluminum directly, the crucible is then lowered on a platform with a stepper motor and leadscrew and it's contents tipped into a waiting steel tray. The tray will need it's own pre-heating though to avoid any explosive spatter

11:03 PM

It'd still take 3kW of energy, but that 3kW of energy is being used to operate solid state electronics which should have a much longer shelf life.

11:04 PM

At 15 cents per kW hour, it'd cost 45 cents to run for an hour. In that hour, you could probably process 1000 cans, or 10.2 to 13 kg of cans. The market price per kg of aluminum is $1.97, so you effectively have $20 worth of aluminum.

11:05 PM

$20 - 0.45 = $19.64. Seems like a profitable process.

11:09 PM

You also eliminate the broken thinking involved in collecting several tons of cans, putting them on trucks, driving them hundreds of kilometers and paying drivers, having operational costs like fuel, vehicle maintenance and all sorts of other operational costs. Hypothetically, you collect a large volume of the aluminum and use it to create 3D printed parts that are then used to cast aluminum and you can certainly sell those for more than $1.97 per kg. Take fishing boats for example. A $16,000-$30,000 fishing boat is anywhere about 300 kg and therefore per kg f aluminum is between $50 to $80 per kg.

nice nice nice - well done homework. Re-casted cans are rather of lower quality (awful to mill but doable, sure), at least the castings I tried. I had much better results with chips from window & door makers; One alone produces up 10 Kg each week in dust coming from the saw. You can also get a big bunch of cut offs (another 20 KG) but it's harder melt because of it's size. Btw. you can also melt really thick stuff using a Acetylene torch, it takes just a few seconds til a 5x5x5 cm block AL melts. It's quite nasty and toxic work to fish out the slack from crucibles, I remember of quite some headaches those days.

12:14 AM

'Precious Aluminum' is back on the table

Interesting

12:20 AM

The weird part is this: Aluminum cans are made from 3004 series and 5000 series aluminum for the lid. They're 95% pure aluminum with 1% magnesium. Why couldn't you add more powdered material to turn the aluminum into the same 6000 series the window frames are made from?

12:21 AM

I mean, once you've it hot enough; alloying isn't that different than adding powdered magnesium or silicon

i didn't know sh** that time; that's why

Then you can heat treat it with an oven to produce parts that are still filled with pockets of air, but a vacuum chamber could fix that

but good to know - thanks

The biggest problems to deal with are de-drossing and de-gassing with casting.

12:24 AM

I'm wondering if I can produce V-slot 2020 extrusion using the same principles behind the Precious Plastic extrusion methods

12:24 AM

Cast, then progressively work harden by hydraulically forcing it through progressively tighter and tighter tolerances

Have you seen those monster presses extruding beams ? that are ~90T basket ball field sized machines There are quite some applications where you don't need it that good. It was ok making parts for nearby orthopathy self help groups, wheel chair upgrades, prosthesis for knees, etc..

Yeah

brilliant idea @sirukin

Executing it will be a bit of work

@sirukin alot actually but itz doable with CO2 if am not mistaken!

CO2?

Removing oxygen and replace with CO2?

I'm currently working off these notes for the re-design of the heating system

4:59 AM

https://spaco.org/Blacksmithing/ZVSInductionHeater/ZVS1800Watt/1800-2500WattZVSInductionHeaterNotes.htm

1800-2500 Watt ZVS Induction Heater Notes

I've seen many webpages and videos about these (Banggood and others) ZVS Induction Heaters, but they seem to be missing a number of important points which I shall cover here.

China's economic system is officially "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" which is code for "do what we say or die." Virtually every argument on Socialism I hear, is based on straw man arguments and extreme ignorance of the history of the 20th Century. It shouldn't be necessary, at this point in history, to explain to anyone, that the characteristics of a society's economic dispensation are meaningless in the face of the lack of Democracy. Without Democratic processes, a society has no self-correction mechanisms at its disposal. At least, none that are not catastrophic or highly destructive in some way. It's not complicated. But, apparently, that still has to be explained to the average person. Even after a century of sheer horror. Yet more reason to seriously doubt our species' survival capacity. I mean, if the 20th Century didn't manage to drive the point home, what will? Probably nothing. That's the problem. As Sheldon Solomon said: "I wonder if we are a viable form of life. It may be that we are just an evolutionary flash in the pan, and we might be sitting right next to the dodos and dinosaurs in the cockroach museum." The Fermi Paradox adds another stark dimension to this possibility. If it doesn't worry you, it's only because you don't understand it.

I'm kind of wondering if you can recycle plastic, aluminum and copper and directly use it to make things like vehicles.

6:21 AM

Electric vehicles to be precise

@Frederik C (ZA) what is a good example of true socialism?

It depends. That's usually the set-up for the classic straw man argument. Are you trying to build a straw man to stab so you can call it murder? The question is as meaningless as: "What is a good example of true Christianity?" It's an amorphous concept. I'm not aware of any examples of true Democracy (because the concept implies informed consent), but the World's consensus is clearly that going to war for it, is a moral imperative. As for so-called "holy wars"... well... just read some history books. It'll keep you busy for years.

Not really, you're right that I've probably heard only straw man arguments. Though I have really nothing for or against socialism. I would like to know of one that has been successful as I've only heard of terrible results.

7:48 AM

That certainly doesn't mean it's not possible nor possible to be successful. Though I'm merely skeptical of it.

7:49 AM

I'm very certain it can be given certain conditions and lifestyles. I remember watching a video on a pacifistic commune that lasted for a long time.

Disadvantage-People won't work. Technological development is very slow. Will be poor in materials.

8:08 AM

And those are the reasons why the ☭ has fallen.

8:12 AM

Democracy does not work well with socialism.

I use a Confucian saying as a rule of thumb for my personal understanding of the concept: "In a well-governed country, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In badly governed country, wealth is something to be ashamed of." It seems the only thing people can always agree on, is that their countries are badly governed. Many would argue that the Scandinavian countries are Socialist. Some might include countries like Germany and Canada. The point is, there are plenty of people, myself included, who call themselves Socialists for the sake of conversation. Just as there are are people who call themselves Christians for the sake of conversation. The problem, generally, is that there is no meaningful conversation part. It tends to begin and end with superficial labelling. Because no-one has the vocabulary, attention span or patience anymore, to take it beyond that. Which is all "part of the plan." That goes back to what Carlin said. The Rulers own you, and they have no need for informed citizens capable of critical thinking. (edited)

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Democracy...

Ideally, everyone should be born on the tail-end of a revolution and the overthrow of a monstrous Regime, like I was. The problem is, we no longer have the luxury of time for that laborious cycle to play itself out every 50 to 100 years. People have disastrously short memories and get complacent and comfortable at the drop of a hat. "Because humans can adapt to living under virtually any conditions, the trait that has enabled us to survive, is the very trait that has suppressed us." (And will ultimately kill us.) Like the proverbial frog in a pot on the stove-top. In the same vein: It's said that when the last person who remembers the last great war dies, the next great war becomes inevitable. Another cycle that we can't survive as a species. Japanese people should know that better than anyone. The demonstrable end to that centuries-old cycle became clear on two fateful days in 1945, in the skies above Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Just interested, are you against nuclear weapons?

10:10 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_umbrella

Nuclear umbrella

A nuclear umbrella is a guarantee by a nuclear weapons state to defend a non-nuclear allied state. The context is usually the security alliances of the United States with Japan, South Korea, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (much of Europe, Turkey, Canada), and Australia...

10:11 AM

I'm not sure if I am against nuclear weapons.

Yes. Beyond MAD deterrence, it serves no purpose. It's childish. "If we can't have the planet... no-one will. HA-HA-Ha!" Please. Get over yourself, assholes. (edited)

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250 000 years of our ancestors clawing their way to the top of the food chain, so we can all die because of a dick-measuring contest between ego-maniacs and religious psychopaths. So tragic it's almost funny. The cockroaches or whichever species inherit the planet eons from now, will probably laugh their asses off. (edited)

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I mean, the dinosaurs at least went out with some dignity, you know? There's no way they could have stopped the asteroid. It was just tough luck.

this conversation kinda has me thinking of what the real end goal of like a fully circular material economy and how it is like... well it goes beyond merely just trying to prevent our own extinction right?

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10:43 PM

Like step 1-50 is first patching up the mess we made long enough to buy time to do the deep cleaning of the earth needed (like the millions of gallons of oil tar at the bottom of the ocean now)

10:43 PM

But after... well more like during the process of doing that wouldn't the quality of life end up being much higher in a way?

10:46 PM

Like... as an example with the asteroid. Humans clean up the mess, utilize the resources of that collected mess for expanding current space launch platforms/factories, build a mini mining/manfucaturing drone that goes to our asteroid belt, builds a bunch of rail guns out of hallowing out a bigger one and turning it and others into anti-asteroid system that fires giant rounds to adjust the trajectory of incoming asteroids. (edited)

10:48 PM

Maybe we could get the more "patriotic" people to go along with this because the collected recyclables could be considered part of an "emergency resource stockpile" and cleaning ones recycling is part of protecting.

As explained in Zeitgeist (the old technokrat at the end of the movie), ´resource based economy´ aims for the obvious, no over production, provide life to many as possible... In science fiction books where machines take over, folks are rather busy with art and science, ... . I really like the idea. (edited)

11:13 PM

Possibly it's easier to fix humanity first, before trying to fix the planet

c19 showed some potential though

It's something that's done in staggered steps. Like some groups start the research/development of the tools needed to do these kinds of things, others help out their communities, education, like it's a lot of different efforts that will grow more and more entwined like an ecosystem. Co-op sustainable farms helping out locally owned restaurants that specialize in using a combo of local/sustainable produce and meat from invasive species.

12:17 AM

A local makerspace uses precious plastic equipment to make that restaurants furniture and the plastic beams are used for making foldable greenhouses.

http://valueflo.ws is working on this, these are the people working on it https://mikorizal.org/

Introduction · GitBook

2:29 AM

"Why? The capitalist system needs to be replaced by something better, or it will be replaced by something worse, which is already happening, as the system begins to fail. Fortunately, the system develops the forces that will replace it, for better and for worse. Among those forces are the Internet, the World Wide Web, and open-source software developers. The Web could coordinate a new and better economic system. Unfortunately, it has been taken over by Facebook, Google, and the various government intelligence agencies for a new form of capitalism, Surveillance Capitalism. That is preparing the new and worse replacement system. In other words, the same networked communication capabilities can be used to lead us in two very different directions: a combination of 1984 and Brave New World, or a free-and-equal society. Fortunately, the open-source software developers of the world are developing a replacement that will be more difficult to make money from, and so less attractive to capital, and also more difficult to surveil. The other cancerous outgrowth from the same networked coordination potentials that fed open-source software is the so-called "gig economy", or "non-jobs" like Uber driver and DoorDasher, where people no longer have jobs, but do uncertain piecework led by an app on their phone. This is yet another new addition to the capitalist class structure: the Precariat. Also fortunately, the open-source software developers are joining the cooperative organizers to create worker cooperatives for those kinds of gigs, where the drivers and dashers have some control over their conditions. We are working with many of those developers on the software, the operating system, for a new and better economic system. (edited)

2:29 AM

We are not the only people who are working on this large not-yet-fully-formed project. We are only working on some of the software. The people who are organizing real-life projects, like worker cooperatives and mutual aid networks, are doing much more important work. Likewise the people who are doing political and union organizing and educating everybody about how to transform the system. But they will need the software to help them coordinate their activities. None of this is enough. The Antarctic is melting. Miami will be under water. Species are dropping like flies. Fertile soil becomes sterile growing medium. The cosmic achievements of the whole of humankind are turned against us by the 1%. Capitalism is even failing capitalists. People will also need to cooperate with all the critters in their natural environment. Not like what is happening now. Needs to be a whole cooperative ecosystem. Obey the biological limits of the planet. Humans have been taking too much and poisoning the rest and driving species to extinction and even messing up the climate. Greed has to go! We need a massive effort. But it can start by people proving they can do small parts of the job, and then uniting with others." (edited)

2:30 AM

from: https://mikorizal.org/about.html

2:34 AM

http://mikorizal.org/ValueFlows-Story.pdf

2:34 AM

that's a fun little pdf that shows their project (edited)

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SO

7:10 AM

i found out how (somewhat) easy it is to make glow in the dark powder:

7:10 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfI-XpYAqM0

NileRed

Making glow toys from scratch

7:11 AM

could be mixed into plastic for making it "worth the extra cost" ?

7:11 AM

essentially CAN be made small scale, but zinc sulphide (doped or not) is available CHEAP online

7:11 AM

mix a bag into a shred mix

7:11 AM

extrude

7:12 AM

extrude again for more "mixing" etc?

7:12 AM

what do you think ?

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would be great for things like cellphone cases that would be hard to lose in the dark

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yep

7:29 AM

my exact thoughts

7:29 AM

and cool enough it's better than some walmart thing

7:30 AM

also we need to cash in more on the "pay THE EXTRA for THE WHALES" etc

7:30 AM

going for cost = china factory will never work

7:31 AM

but as the "MADE in theh USA (proudly) " and GERMAN ENGINEERING concepts show, this can be a good thing.

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7:32 AM

How about this? @Eric Lotze

7:34 AM

o as a sort of "lightbar" ?

Yeah it requires electricity

7:34 AM

earings are cool af looking! (i can only imagine if they GLOWED aaaah) (edited)

7:34 AM

anywho

7:34 AM

RANT TIME:

7:35 AM

my idea is: to make "emergency navigation lights" type things

I think there are lots of possibilities

7:35 AM

Cool

so power goes down, lights could activate, and/or use a LONG lasting red glow powdere

(although idk if that green is fine with nightvision idk)

7:36 AM

EXACTLy

Yes very common

especially in developing areas that MAY (don't live there, don't know) have less of these saftey features?

7:37 AM

eco friendly + make homes/offices/small local industry safer?

7:37 AM

may be more expensive than ots, depends on area

Is this more common in USA?

7:37 AM

I've seen a lot of it

7:38 AM

but none in

it varies, but typically yes

Ok

7:38 AM

Seen a lot in Hawaii

naga as in Nagasaki, just made the connection lol

7:39 AM

my dad was in the navy (p-3 nav) and did deployments there

7:39 AM

and we lived in hawii for a bit!

Actually no

oh no?

7:39 AM

sorry lol

Naga=Dragon in Indonesian

7:39 AM

ok lol

AH

7:39 AM

makes sense

And Dragon is my school symbol thing

i'm doing 12:00 thinking lol

7:39 AM

not drunk but same effect at times, sorry in advances

yeah we have opposite time zones

o o f

my logo:

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7:40 AM

Yeah that dragon is my school logo

aw cool logo!

7:41 AM

i need to make some personal and/or ose one

7:41 AM

that is a template at the core right? (edited)

Yes

7:41 AM

I made it online following steps

7:41 AM

If you need I can make one for you

yup template + layer of personal art

I'm not a design guy, but I already have stuff set up so it's easy

7:42 AM

Btw are you planning to start a workspace?

7:44 AM

Ah I guess you are

ing:)

no

7:44 AM

i'm going nocturnal due to some personal reasons (loooooooooong story...)

7:44 AM

anywho

Ok

am currently working for OSE (can explain them if need be)

Like officialy?

but may also make a makerspace once i "settle down" somewhere

7:45 AM

mostly?

Ok

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Eric_Lotze_Log

Eric Lotze Log

7:45 AM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsershttps://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Special:ActiveUsers

Wow

7:46 AM

Do they have discord?

7:47 AM

If not I think they should???

7:47 AM

got to go...

i made oneeeeeeeeeeeeeee

7:47 AM

want the link?

7:47 AM

https://discord.gg/5D5cxt

7:48 AM

kind of a mess as it is new, and i am no discord magician, but i agree it is a needed tool !

Yesss

7:52 AM

Plz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQCNMw7puB0

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Precious Plastic Pro Shredder Coversion to 3D Printed Parts

hello human! my name is denise. I just joined this channel.. i m trying to learn more about plastics and to have a deeper understanding than just pointing out what is plastic and what is not. LOL. I have a question.. i now see some of the companies are using recycled plastic yarn to make pouches or tubes. can these recycled material to be 'recycled' again? Is there a quality degradation when re-create the plastic again and again?

there is, i am unsure on the specific "data on degradation"

10:19 AM

The yarn is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyester

Polyester

Polyester is a category of polymers that contain the ester functional group in their main chain. As a specific material, it most commonly refers to a type called polyethylene terephthalate (PET). Polyesters include naturally occurring chemicals, such as in the cutin of plant c...

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10:20 AM

essentially PET (like clear water bottles) made into thread and textiles

10:20 AM

is sort of do-able small scale

10:20 AM

good plastic rope can be made using bottles

10:21 AM

uses something like this:

10:21 AM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Plastic_Bottle_Peeler

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Nonwoven_Fabrics

Not just "sort of". There are small-scale machines to make the fibers through a blow-melting process. I just haven't looked into if it's open source. And how the fibers are processed into usable thread (and coloured, etc.) So, for our purposes I'm not sure if it's a finished product or just raw material to be sold to bigger players.

i mean rope

10:40 AM

not mm fiber lol

10:41 AM

granted if it's developed....

10:41 AM

blow molding is COMPEX though lol

10:41 AM

is it with molten too, or air curing or what?

It comes out sort of like candy floss. Rough, hair-like fiber.

they use it for filters too?

10:45 AM

i was geekin out about it a while back and made this: (edited)

10:45 AM

Nonwoven Fabrics

Potentially, I think. But the medical grade stuff will probably have some kind of ISO standard that disqualifies most of it.

of course lol

10:45 AM

not: dIy LIFeHACk hepa and hot glue mask

10:45 AM

those videos/projects hurt my soul

10:46 AM

do it right or don't do it till you can imo

10:46 AM

the whole "measure twice cut once"

Well, as long as people don't have a false sense of security. Thinking an untested mask or filter will protect them. The equipment to detect sub-micron particles is not that complex, actually.

so my hot glue mask didn't pass the fit test?

I think being able to remove the mask without injury, is part of the requirements, yes. Weird.

(edited)

@Timberstar What do you think about PP Asia, like a branch of PPHQ?

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@jeroenboom9 - thanks for your post - happy to see messages longer than 2 lines about the subject. I am also very happy about your project and I DMing you soon. I'd have some questions. 6 years ago when I got in touch the first time with local cooperative groups I had similar on mind, a basic asset/resource library system which can assist in distributed and local manufacturing; Happy to see you've got this much further. Just a side note, still we all have all feets on monetary grounds, eg: health care, living healthy in remote areas, retirement, basic insurances, etc.. ... , I won't blame big companies too much, even Facebook and MS$$ contributed large amounts in tools, protocols and infrastructure. And honestly, I'd always choose the tools which get the job done faster and better but let's meet on that on the galaxy server.

@Frederik C (ZA) the only blow melting machine ive seen was a russian guy, impressive machine but the guy appeared to have lost his hair, putting 2 and 2 together id say its not a healthy process

2:11 PM

damn youtube algorithms, cant find the guy now, but i did find this which is newish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8446TXy3by8

Pet recycling machine for PET bottles. Make polyester fibre for ev...

2:12 PM

looks like spiderman webs

i definately wouldnt want to stand near it though.. @Deleted User you will like (edited)

I'm thinking of the PolyFloss machines. Other than fumes, (like with all machines) I can't think what's dangerous about it. https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888903994376201/685980609604354240

well yea fumes.. but unlike other machines theyre getting sprayed out at high pressure

2:15 PM

VOCs everywhere in that shed

PET -> yarn, if anyone can point to a OS design, this could be the biggest killer feature of PP; despite, this crap is going down all over the place as particles, destroying lots of nature and ecosystem, soon or later (edited)

2:20 PM

@ShrednMelt_Xu - was about to start something this way - how is it coming ?

anyone an idea how this thing works : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw0uWNlbiTQ ?

fiber white

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looks similar, its just extruding into a jet of high pressure air

2:42 PM

Here he is @Frederik C (ZA) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXKZ6ZKQcu8&list=PLkAFMFlqAJfC06tC2KFVUZYbyh9-S7y9g

Alexander Yevstaffyev

PET bottles Recycling cheap and easy technology, fiber from pet bot...

2:43 PM

god tier crazy inventor

slavic diy technology is often entertaining

Interesting. I wonder how much static charge that giant hamster-wheel builds up.

yea you cant tell because hes go no hair, if he did it would stand on end

3:09 PM

someone could have a go at designing a compressed air nozzle for the PP extruder maybe

3:10 PM

I'd say theres more potential use for blow moulding which is a similar principle but lower pressure

3:12 PM

somebody managed it diy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meraQOFYPd4

Esteban221

DIY - Home made plastic blow machine / Sopladora plastica

@Deleted User Still working on the prototype. there are a lot of work to be done. i will inform you when i finished.

3:28 PM

i upgraded the shredder pro. to make it more stable and powerful.

3:28 PM

3:31 PM

more effecient side way blade

3:31 PM

V4 pro original

3:34 PM

solid, heavy,stable

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somebody managed it diy Clearly a safety freak.

hello anybody in here know or have knowledge of wood,plastic and composite (WPC). My question is can it made from waste plastic? thank you

@ShrednMelt_Xu do you have feedback from this new shape of fixed blade ? We tried a similar shape but i was worse, mostly because the plastic get stucked more in the sieve. But maybe you are using it without a sieve, with more shredding ?

@Yann no need for sieve. still testing it. sieve will somehow block the machine. and it will cause more problem when you shred big amount of plastics.

7:28 PM

the original fixed blade will have more plastic get stuck in this area. one second

7:30 PM

good to know, was about to order a few sets

Thank you very much. This is true we have a straight line here, to be able to put the fixed blade after the axis. How wuld you assemble in that case ?

Nice to see other people plating the corners with reinforcement too.

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hi

8:58 PM

i want to know about physical properties, if there is a way to make sheets more light

Hi @Gisell As in just weighing less?

yes

9:35 PM

because in the weight chart said that 1 sheet of 1x1m weight is 20kg, and that´s a little bit heavy so i want to know is there is a way to make it weighing lees

You can reduce the volume by making it thinner, or compare the weight of other types of plastic and graph the weight on same sized sheets at different thicknesses.

Ok, thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo-rN2dWE2g

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Micaella Pedros explains how to make furniture using discarded plas...

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10:27 PM

found this interesting video on a way to recycle PET using a heat gun

10:27 PM

also hi i'm new to the pp community 8)

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Hi guys, does anyone have .obj files for the machines? As we are in the early stages of our business here in Brazil, I'm building a 3D space of our workshop to present for investors and clients, having these files would improve very much our presentation. (edited)

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@Gisell 1cm3 of HDPE = 1g

Hey, I have a mould that looks like this, to make 9 circles at once. But it is not working properly, when I use the injector, the plastic is not flowing to all of the circles. Any ideas why? I had the injector working at slightly above optimum temperature

7:06 AM

Does anyone know a type of plastic that has good sound dampening properties?

@bruna What type of plastic are you using and what was the temperature set at? To me it seems like either incorrect heating for the plastic or not enough flake volume being heated before the plunger

@Doeyo i am using hdpe #2 and 240 degrees C

8:53 AM

I put enough flakes to do around 2 moulds of those and waited a long time, even when the machine was well heated still the plastic didn’t go all the way to all the circles

Hello Humans I have finally made a "how to" on how I make my sheets. Have a look and if you have any questions please let me know https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/zero-plastic-australias-sheet-machine

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Does anyone know a type of plastic that has good sound dampening properties? Professional recording studios use a kind of expanded foam. Presumably polyurethane. I suppose you could try polystyrene blocks or egg cartons or polyester "fluff." Depends on the intended usage.

@bruna is the mold itself cold? I’m guessing the plastic is solidifying in the mold before it can get to the farther distance of the corner circles. I would try heating up the mold or injecting the plastic faster (if possible). (edited)

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) the mould is cold, that is a good idea, i will try to heat it up. Thanks

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@bruna Let us know how it goes. The colour / pattern looks great!

Thanks!! Im volunteering once a week and helping them figure out all the questions that are going wrong, so I will find out next week when I volunteer again

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hello very one

2:08 PM

i am planning to built a shredder and i need the drawings any body can help?

you can download them here https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/overview.html

i am planning to built a shredder and i need the drawings any body can help?

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@Timberstar hi

@bruna what the width of your channels, and the type and °C of your plastic ? It seams that the unfilled coins are the one on the long channel. You can try to increase the melting temperture, heat up the mold (50°C as a starting point), or make the long channels wider. If you chose this last option, keep a small entrance in the coin to make it still easy to cut.

Hi, everyone. New here and trying to increase plastic recycling in my farming community in rural Nebraska in the U.S.A. I was given a grant for a project where I’m using a lot of plastic. I’m hoping to use the project to increase awareness and help me raise finances for machinery. Is there anywhere here I can talk to about the shredder machine? I don’t have the skills or equipment to make it myself and so far I’ve cut up and shredded 100lbs of plastic by hand and with a paper shredder. Is there anyone that makes premade kits? Thanks!

@McNerdyMakes what kind of shredder are you looking for? small for testing or large for higher capacity?

@CitSciWorkshop it doesn’t have to be massive scale, I just have some pieces that are too thick or large to fit through the 9 inch wide slot on the paper shredder and I don’t want to push it too hard. Just something that will process a thicker piece of polypropylene the size of a milk jug without me having to spend 45 minutes with a pair of tin snips to break it down first.

Ok, so sounds like something between the basic size, but not quite the industrial scale of the Pro. We make a box for small enterprise based on the pro but fitting self starters with a ~6"x12" shredding area.

8:32 PM

Might just slice a gallon jug in half if to make it extra chewy for the shredder.

8:33 PM

for reference, the V4 Pro is about 10x12" shredding area

In general, how profitable is Precious Plastic? More/less than solar panels?

7:10 AM

@davehakkens Did you apply to this? https://prseventeurope.com/prse2020/en/page/awards

PRSE 2020 - Awards

Does anyone know a type of plastic that has good sound dampening properties? Professional recording studios use a kind of expanded foam. Presumably polyurethane. I suppose you could try polystyrene blocks or egg cartons or polyester "fluff." Depends on the intended usage.

@Frederik C (ZA) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pABvTWSxOes&t=19s this might be helpful (edited)

DIY Perks

How to Make High Performance Sound Absorption Panels for $5

Right. But we don't know the intended purpose. Maybe it's not for a recording booth.

I'd rather make an insturment:)

@Frederik C (ZA) Try make sound diffuser instead. It can use hard materials so it could work with plastics.

7:40 AM

Acoustic panel & sound diffuser used for acoustic treatment but both have different purpose (edited)

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Traffic noise. Near an airport. On a high rise on the beach front... Crashing waves in an acoustic chamber can be deafening.

Hi everybody, I’m a watersports and boardsport enthusiast from England, who is starting a business. I have some design ideas which already have been 3D modelled and I’m now interested in manufacturing them. Also I am trying to make my business as environmentally friendly as possible, thats why I am looking into recyclable alternatives for material. I think the idea of precious plastic is brilliant and hope to make my business part of it. However I am not sure yet wether to contact a workshop in the UK to collaborate or open my own recycling station and workshop. Are your machines capable of recycling foam, like for example EVA foam ? The material has to be waterproof and resistant to UV as it is used in saltwater and outdoors. And what kind of machines are necessary for the process ? Thank you so much for all your help

Hi everybody, I'm new to this channel. I want to start a precious plastic project in my hometown in New Brunswick, Canada. My husband is already building a shredder and an infusion machine at his shop. Since, I'm from a small french community, I would like to know if the precious plastic web site exist in french? I couldn't find it.

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hey @gagnonli welcome on board ! a lot of work has been done in matters of translation (still a lot to do), hop on our french discord server ! https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn (edited)

Invite to join a server

Forming Useful Pieces Of Recycled HDPE

accueil

Merci!

Great.

I wasted 5 minutes looking for that. tags: [FAQ] [French] [server] Finally.

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@krasserleo simply spoken the highest density, the highest capacity of brute absorption. You can increase your capacity of absorption by scattering of the sound wave. You can play on many designs, I make quadratic diffusers and they are pretty powerful. https://www.plasticatbay.org/product/sound-diffuser/?v=79cba1185463

PaB

Sound diffuser

We can produce acoustic treatment for your listening room or studio at your request. The prisms are made of HDPE from melted fish farm feeder pipes, fish boxes and other container we remove from th…

Thank you all! I just think sound absorption/diffusion could be a good way to use recycled plastic.. especially because sound treatment can be very expensive.. (edited)

High-end microphones and audio software have actually gotten good enough to record in ordinary rooms. I recall some newcomer singers for some years back, who recorded hit songs in their living rooms. (Instrumentals and acoustic effects mixed in later, with software.) I think acoustic walls are more of a "Look at me, I'm definitely a pro," over-kill kind of thing. But, if you can do it cheaply, why not? But in proper studios for commercial recording... Yeah, expanded foam for sure. That's what I've always seen. On TV and the few times I've actually been in studios myself. There's also a local foam factory that makes the stuff. Mostly foam for mattresses but also acoustics. (edited)

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@Franzi.R foam is challenging, but HDPE is successfully being recycled for watersports products https://islanderkayaks.com/

What kind of local non-stick materials can I used molds for LDPE, PP, HDPE and others

and to extend onto @PP Nigeria's question, what other unique or accessible mold fabrication methods exist out there for those who might not have easy access to CNC'd aluminum, laser-cut sections, or anyway to fabricate metal?

@doeyo

@PP Nigeria @Doeyo aluminium or steel are most used but 2 part high-temperature silicone rubber can be used (edited)

8:29 AM

it's possible even to make moulds from wood, the plastic will shrink a little bit as it cools so it will unstick from the mould

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Does any coating or finish need to be applied to wood moulds, or does there exist any how-to's around using wood

i think it will depend on the type of wood used, don't use something soft and porous. best way is to just try it and experiment

8:34 AM

go for HDPE first, it has quite a low melting temperature and the fumes are less than the others

Does there exist any documented knowledge or diagram around 3d printed materials melting points mapped to plastic melting points?

google is good for that kind of thing

Yes, but precious plastics documenting that information in the academy would make knowledge around plastics under their movement more accessible

if it's not there yet it's waiting for someone to do the research and make a writeup

8:47 AM

@PP Nigeria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQPnlnRaWyI basic, but you get the idea

Atomic Shrimp

@Timberstar great

8:57 AM

Video lesson

interesting

8:59 AM

thanks for this link!

But the problem I have is the shredder that while I want to experiment with LDPE

if it's just for experiments, it doesn't take long to cut by hand with scissors

10:12 AM

LDPE would probably be ok in a paper shredder if it's thin

Re: Aluminium milling I recently watched this. Haven't done a "deep dive" on the subject. But I'm seeing lots of tutorials on DIY CNC mills for aluminium. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovrtvLFvFpk

Thomas Sanladerer

The road to cutting Aluminum on my Desktop CNC!

@PP Nigeria here is a really basic way to make something which can shred plastic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0bfGw5liHY

5050ShopSDB

18, Plastic Shredder

Rule of thumb: Never trust those who make it look easy. Never trust those who say it shouldn't be done.

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@Timberstar, I have seen the video is interesting but I don't understand the language

me too but its easy to see how he did it

Yes I will try it

10:56 AM

For a start

10:57 AM

Rule of thumb: Never trust those who make it look easy. Never trust those who say it shouldn't be done.

@Frederik C (ZA) - yeah, following this principles since long also in software development, 1. trust your mentor, 2. don't trust anyone

- I think this came from Buddhism though

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That might also turn you from a 'sheep' into a 'horse' too -

I'll add a "grey area" for those who skip the difficult parts to seem more professional and to make viewers optimistic about possibilities.

In other words, sacrificing some realism for the sake of encouragement.

Hi. I am looking for products that I can put on metal plate so the plastic won't stick on it.

@Frederik C (ZA) - yeah - that might be - 'çolin furze' style - then you know upfront : don't take anything for serious but understand that isn't done with superglue

6:05 PM

@Pat : forum, as almost always - is your friend : https://www.google.com/search?q=plastic+sticking+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl&oq=plastic+sticking+site%3A%2F%2Fdavehakkens.nl

@Pat Parchment paper? Its not really a zero-waste solution though...

Please anyone with design for agglomerator machine??

I am afraid not - not that I am aware of at least.

What do you guys think about Precious Plastic Bank? A bank that invests in workspaces while earning profit?

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how can we make a dustbin out of waste plastic ?

@Lazy_Turtle Different from the existing Plastic Bank in what way? There, the end-consumers essentially pay for it, by paying a premium for recycled packaging. Considering that IBM runs the blockchain, I'm sure company executives are walking away with nice bonuses, somewhere. We could, of course, copy the model. But also, why reinvent the wheel?

hi everyone, I'm interested in building houses with the bricks and would like to know if there are other people doing this in the Western Cape? Map doesn't tell me ...

@Frederik C (ZA) I was thinking only about a bank that invests in workspaces, but maybe that could work

@Noeline I don't know about the Western Cape, but there is a new national supplier. See this message from #🌽africa: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855130066190377/685676087602315292

2:06 PM

@Lazy_Turtle See if someone from Haiti can tell you more. There was a mention of it a month or two ago.

Ok

@Frederik C (ZA) I was thinking only about a bank that invests in workspaces, but maybe that could work

@Lazy_Turtle Hi, I think that's a great idea but it needs to have transparency parameteres for the companies that are invested in, it sounds to me like a crowdfunding but mixed with like a coorporate venture schematic

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Not crowd-funding, directly. The manufacturers either absorb the cost or pass it on to the consumer, who pays a few extra cents for a product with the "Social Plastic" logo on it. Sort of like "Fair Trade" (farmer co-ops) or "Cruelty Free Beauty" (no animal testing of cosmetics.) The blockchain is supposed to keep it transparent. It keeps track of transactions between collection points and waste pickers who collect credits to exchange for goods and services.

Hello guys Does anyone here work with a PYROLYSIS MACHINE Converting Plastic to Oils, fuels

this may help

PYROLISIS.pdf

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Thank you all! I just think sound absorption/diffusion could be a good way to use recycled plastic.. especially because sound treatment can be very expensive..

@krasserleo It is a good way but you will have hard time to get competitive prices against wood. It is more dense so better energy absorption and it doesn't rot. Diaphragmatic diffusers would be awesome as they would be heavier than the wooden versions so you could be more efficient in the low-ends. But for that you have to go for the sheetpress.

@ccarrilloo you are a blessing, thanks

Not crowd-funding, directly. The manufacturers either absorb the cost or pass it on to the consumer, who pays a few extra cents for a product with the "Social Plastic" logo on it. Sort of like "Fair Trade" (farmer co-ops) or "Cruelty Free Beauty" (no animal testing of cosmetics.) The blockchain is supposed to keep it transparent. It keeps track of transactions between collection points and waste pickers who collect credits to exchange for goods and services. @Frederik C (ZA)

it sounds complex but real good way to stablish a sort of brand, and traceability maybe of the co2 saved.... don't know if helps but an Argentinian project create a block chain based platform for contracts... sorry about my english i'm not native let me know if u don't get something to try explain it better, regards (edited)

Does anyone here work with a PYROLYSIS MACHINE See the conversation here: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/600998730262380545/711679278865055835

it sounds complex Yes. Too complex, probably. That's why I'm sceptical of it. Also: 1) It's American 2) It's connected directly to the plastics industry 3) It's core technology is controlled by a soulless multi-national corporation (that has directly profited from slave labour before) That's an "axis of evil," right there.

That's an "axis of evil," right there. @Frederik C (ZA)

wise words, an axis to be very careful

An e-currency, run on a blockchain or otherwise, that is intended for international transaction, basically needs 2 main fundamentals: 1) A way to mitigate the currency exchange rate issues that usually disadvantage people in developing countries (because the e-currency needs some sort of stable purchasing power, compared to the local State currency.) 2) An agreed upon level of oversight or share-holding / profit-sharing system with the "currency exchange bureaus" that are authorized to exchange State currency for e-currency, and vice versa, if that is allowed. And the primary problem with auditing and oversight is the central question of who is authorised to issue the currency. The authority States have to issue currency comes from the simple fact that they provide policing and military protection (in theory) to their citizens. Based on that, they demand the payment of taxes in legal currency. That's why you can't pay your property taxes directly in potatoes from your garden. You need to first sell your potatoes to someone with money, and then pay your taxes with that money. (edited)

In light of that, I propose using the tissues I've blown my nose with as legal tender, a currency called the Boogey, in a one-way exchange system, from tissue to digital currency. One Boogey will always be worth €20. Because... why not?

snot a bad idea..

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Mining is tough, though. Have to watch the nose bleeds.

Please report all tissues tendered for sale, without my DNA-verified mucus on them. Counterfeiting is a serious crime, punishable by death.

Since rarity determines the price of a commodity (apparently), you can rest assured that my mucus is sufficiently rare, to maintain it's value over years to come, avoiding both negative and hyper inflation. As for the protection of sovereignty I will provide, in exchange for you all using my currency: If someone messes with you, I will send them a strongly worded e-mail, with lots of swearing in it. How about that?

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I was not thinking about exchanging currency, would it be better to use earned money for ecological stuff?

Think of it terms of relative purchasing power. Let's say we have a token called the Precious Plastic Coin (PPC). Let's say the local co-op sells a solar panel for your workshop for 1500 PPC. The same panel costs ¥100 in open retail (for example). If it takes you, on average, three months to earn 1500 PPC, and less a month to earn ¥100 — why not just buy the solar panel in Yen and be done with it? There needs to be a strategic advantage in using the token currency over your local State currency.

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If all token currency is automatically kept in a 1:1 exchange rate with local State currency, then you will probably need regional tokens. But then, like always, there are ways to exploit stronger and weaker currencies. So, again, where is the incentive?

2:17 PM

Anyway, that's just a sample of the thought process. As I said, I still need to research a lot of concepts. The good news with e-currency / cryptocurrency is that the "laws of physics" in terms of how your virtual money behaves, can be anything you can think of. (edited)

2:21 PM

For example, you can mitigate negative inflation or massive inheritance by having virtual "coins" that self-destruct after a set period of time. That's impossible with conventional money. (edited)

"Oh... Your Nazi daddy wanted to leave you $100 million trust fund? Oopsy... So much for that "career" in politics..." (mutha-facka

)

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Sorry I was offline for few moment

3:20 PM

If PPC is exchangable, there might be stuff with laws...

3:20 PM

But if not

3:22 PM

Admin of PPC can give equal amount to users of PPC each month/week so that we can boost eco-friendly businesses. It's like being a bank

I think the only legal limits are taxes on foreign currency exchange. As long the government gets their cut in the process of turning their "real" money into virtual money, they don't care what happens in cyberspace. From their perspective it's like buying tons of shrimp with your money. You can eat it. You can dump it in the ocean. Same difference.

3:35 PM

There are concerns from law enforcement agencies, in terms of criminals using crypto for untraceable transactions to buy shady stuff. But they can't really enforce that. Especially if the system is serverless.

Is enabling exchanging worth it?

Well, as I said, you can limit it to one-way exchange. You can buy tokens with money, but you can't sell back tokens. At least not to the "exchange bureau." Someone could always offer you cash for your tokens, if they want to.

That's smart. But would people buy tokens with money?

If they are not willing to, then the system serves no purpose. Then it's Monoply notes. It's just a game.

How can people earn money with tokens?

3:48 PM

We don't really spend money in Precious Plastic businesses? Except like buying machines? But buying machines won't earn money too.

3:49 PM

There was a little earthquake here btw

3:49 PM

just 10 sec ago

Machine shop wise, every machine has to make money, there is no other way running such business.

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Yeah, that's the main problem with tokens I guess?

@Lazy_Turtle leave the building before ....

It's a small one

can still kill you, even easier ... just saying

It's already done, nothing to worry

Aftershocks are never worse than the first quake, right?

Living in Japan itself is risking, I am aware of it:)

3:54 PM

At least my building is safe.

What about Tsunami?

3:55 PM

Is there a warning system?

The Earthquake is not even a news on TV

3:57 PM

I live far enough from sea:)

I'm right on the coast. I would be in trouble. But no discernable earthquakes here in over 300 years. None ever recorded. So far...

Most Japanese people are prepared for it, maybe you should prepare more

Yeah, I suppose it's like the pandemic or a civil war... no-one thinks it will happen until it does.

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It's a bay facing the South Atlantic between two peninsulas, though. The tectonic fault lines are far away and "facing" the West and South East coast. A wave from either direction would have to be as accurate as a pool shot. Probably a one in a million chance. I hope. But no, we have no plan.

Well I'm like standing on it

4:20 PM

You can't even see Japan

Yeah, if your spaceship landed on Earth, and there are no humans yet (or they're extinct), and you have to choose the safest spot to set up camp: South Africa's South West coast is it. No hurricanes, volcanoes, earthquakes, monsoons, snow storms or avalanches. Moderate winter. Lots of sun.

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4:31 PM

There was a brief, freak tornado once, about 15 years ago. No-one here had seen one before. Scientists were scratching their heads.

Hello

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It sounds worth too check the crypto currency btw, it still have some issues to figure it out, if it's able to set a self detroy how could be meassure how long should last? wouldn't be bad for minning if destroy it self? I have very limmited knowledge on this so sorry if the questions looks too basic

It's not basic. I might be the first person who thought of the self-destruct. I doubt it, but it's possible. I've never read about it.

trouble with it would be that the value would go down as you get closer to the self destruct time, as you would have less time to use it and nobody wants to be the one holding it when it evaporates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demurrage_(currency)

Demurrage (currency)

Demurrage is the cost associated with owning or holding currency over a given period. It is sometimes referred to as a carrying cost of money. For commodity money such as gold, demurrage is the cost of storing and securing the gold. For paper currency, it can take the form of ...

imagine having so much money that you have to invent a word to describe the cost of storing it

Maybe it could activate if a certain lump sum doesn't change wallets for a certain time. "Oh, you're hoarding money, Mr Rich? Well, use it or lose it, pal." It keeps money circulating. But of coarse there would be ways to cheat. Multiple automated wallets, non-liquid assets, etc. But if wallet-owner identities are known, it's a different ballgame.

exponential value would be good... the more you have, the less its worth

5:00 PM

although i feel like thats the case anyway

5:00 PM

£1 is worth a lot more to me than it is to Bezos

5:02 PM

or maybe it could only self destruct if it doesnt get spent in a certain timeframe? use it or lose it would work

5:02 PM

or even better, rather than self destructing it goes into a charity pot

The problem I thinks, it's that one person can manage many entities which makes difficult the control

Demurrage is not insignificant. But in a distributed, serverless blockchain it becomes irrelevant.

Exponential value sounds like a pretty standarized solution, still have some issues but make sence in many ways (edited)

5:06 PM

but the issue with this it would be the swap to usd or the ability of the owner to move around the globe changing ppc for money in countries where the currency it's less worth it

In the late 90s, Bill Gates actually built himself a Scrooge McDuck type mega-vault in his mansion, because he feared the federal reserve wouldn't be able to provide enough cash dollars if he decided to close Microsoft's bank accounts. He got in trouble with the FTC. They have rules about how much physical cash you're allowed to store.

5:10 PM

Yeah, nothing suspicious about that.

How about resetting once in a year? Use it until December 31 or nothing?

same problem, on dec 30 it will be almost worthless

How about resetting once in a year? Use it until December 31 or nothing?

@Lazy_Turtle but i could pass it to my mom to hold it and would be recover again? or the ppc it self would be destroy? (edited)

Everything will reset

5:15 PM

Your $1 bill, will be nothing but a random paper.

I think it doesnt need to be so complicated, we arent trying to make a new bitcoin, just a token to reward people for recycling which they can then use to buy recycled plastic products (edited)

True, but interesting topic for me before going to bed

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im sure you dream about money anyway

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5:18 PM

and im pretty sure your dreams will come true for you

I usually dream about domain parking. I come up with interesting domains and I search if the domain is available when I wake up

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hahaha

5:20 PM

great tip for that is to look for companies which are planning to open a branch in your country and buy the .jp domain name (edited)

I actually come up with stuff like palindrome

i know a guy who did that and ended up owning the uk branch

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More fun

5:22 PM

moc.com I searched this today

I was thinking something alike... do they "have to" buy the domain from u or can take it by a legal proccedure or somethhing? (edited)

yea they have to buy it from you

5:23 PM

after a few good dreams

Replace those with credit cards, that's a decade late:)

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5:25 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midas

Midas

Midas (; Greek: Μίδας) is the name of one of at least three members of the royal house of Phrygia. The most famous King Midas is popularly remembered in Greek mythology for his ability to turn everything he touched into gold. This came to be called the golden touch, or the Mid...

5:28 PM

Very interesting story

i have the antimidas touch (edited)

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It's gold... until you touch it.

i have the antimidas touch

@Timberstar Better than Midas touch

true, that's why i think the economic freedom should be first

I just want to earn enough money to be happy in the future:)

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ive been trying that for 25 years

5:34 PM

better to forget about the future and concentrate on being happy in the present

Well knowing that I will be happy in future is being happy in the present

nobody can know that

But I will have more confidence

and the people who try are defnitely not more happy in the present, they are worried about whether their stacks of money will still be there (edited)

That's why I am trying to start unearned income. almost there

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but if u are happy doing what u do and still making money, i thinks its possible to close the breach

Yes that's what I thought

or the other solution is to live with very little money, thats what i do. cant say im particularly happy though..

Here in SouthAm it's kind of difficult to accomplish that 'coz the standard of well-living it's very low

Sorry I need to go to bed:) Might come up with domain names:)

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good night buddy

Have good domains

Tokens aimed at accomplishing a specific goal and a functional e-currency are indeed separate things.

5:56 PM

Tokens are purposely limited to certain goods and services.

5:57 PM

A currency is aimed at having as much utility as possible.

For example, in the current economic crisis, some of our municipalities have started issuing tokens that can be bought and redeemed for groceries. But they can't be cashed in or used for other goods and services. And they obviously expire after a while.

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6:13 PM

There are also digital tokens that can be used at a "food ATM" that dispenses maize porridge from an automated spout.

6:18 PM

My idea for PP tokens was aimed at it acting as a transferable accounting system for the exchange of products and services, mostly aimed at saving on banking and cash-carrying costs in poor communities that tend to be unbanked. A large segment of our local population. (edited)

yes that makes most sense, in my mind it would be mostly a way to reward people for bringing their waste plastic without having to part with any real money. (edited)

6:22 PM

it could be redeemed for plastic products, say at a certain weight ratio for example. 100g of waste gets you 10g of tokens or something

6:25 PM

to be fair though, individual workspaces can implement a system like that themselves, no need for a universal coin since these are quite localised

Well, a digital version of that, yes.

a universal version would be cool to use on the bazaar though

Exactly.

although sellers might not be interested in selling their products for something they can only exchange for more of the same (edited)

It helps people to know that their gifts to someone will actually benefit the PP Universe, and not a vacation or car payment or something. If tokens can't be exchanged for cash, that's what it comes down to. Like a store gift certificate.

6:35 PM

But if it's not widely enough adopted, it might just be limited to special campaigns or fundraising. Maybe a special section of the bazaar.

6:36 PM

It would be cool if you can redeem it anywhere in the global network, though.

Also, I said "tokens" but I actually mean vouchers. A voucher can literally just be a string of digits. Like for home electricity boxes or cellphone "load" / "airtime." Meaning you can text it to someone in human-readable form.

Once again I'd like to mention that you guys please look at faircoin and faircoop if you're up to. It has been created within circles with very little means, left alone by the system. I don't know how their system is now but I remember it made quite a swap over to the US and other continents, despite the creator lost most of his money in bitcoin accounts due to prosecution by the spanish federals after he picked 2 mio from banks since it was easy that day and then build a heck of projects as https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/what-on-earth-is-the-catalan-integral-cooperative/2018/09/19 and faircoin. I am not mentioning all the so called volunteer suckers, ruining him on his way ... We get occasionally hair cuts, in exchange for pumping other efforts as giving language classes into the system, others exchange cheese for home made shampoo, etc.. no need to re-invent anything this way. It's there

Marcin told me recently about the question why OS and things this way don't pick up steam. IMO it's because folks still have too much comfort and hope that the system works out for them, basically still on the 'no need to change' train as pretty much everybody having a secure job and won't be making any noise on the street for their rights. Nice trick,.. (edited)

I think also people need to see clear examples of it working better than their current life. Nobody wants to take a risk on a total unknown, even a shitty wage slave existence is more palatable than taking the gamble. Nobody wants to be a pioneer, most people just want a quiet life. Currently the only way to get that is by selling nearly all your daylight hours. If an alternative can be clearly demonstrated 'do this and you get this', with examples of people saying 'yea i did it, it works', things would move faster.

it's not binary, its more of a mix, I've been visiting very poor folks in the last 10 years all over Spain, - it's kinda working for them, it had to - I was amazed how advance some coorps & eco village work - to a point I was about to switch too. I met PP on this way ...

11:11 PM

Cooperative Integral for instance does give you social security, does all the paper work, in a way you can do your tomatoes,... without paying too much to the gov. - it's quite good - was about to pick it too. That shows again that folks work their way out - if they really have to,.

11:13 PM

by poor I mean really poor, you will be shocked how far this goes down here ...

i am not easily shocked

well, I know quite some shit holes in the UK (manchester,...), that's all nothing compared to here, next time you will see, I know some cool hippy villages to visit

i have been outside the uk before ya know

yeah, was more for the interested reader ... - as often (edited)

i think Spain is well ahead of the UK, probably because they already had a stronger history of communism. The UK is so politically lost we will probably have to rebuild all from the base state of anarchy. Another factor is land ownership, its so expensive to buy land here that having a few chickens and a vegetable patch is an expensive middle class leisure activity along with horseriding and home cooking

it might have been well ahead, to me it's rather 3th world country, with some chic facade, as soon you start digging you find quite some spoiled farmer kids who inherited things, as soon you leave the city, or travel by feet for hundreds of kilometers, you see quite a different picture. it's true, the shopping malls are flooded with insane people but that's just facade .. we have here also very good propaganda device - it's increddible how many programs they started on twitter and elsewhere, trolling them since ages - I kinda feel lucky I am not arrested yet.

in Spain i think you an still be a 'peasant', here no, youre just homeless

ok, come to spain, i show you what poverty is

im not having competitions about who's the poorest

11:39 PM

im saying in terms of politially, mentality

sometimes I wish it's above wild animals here - saying this after having watched also lots, lots of UK indy movies ... (edited)

11:41 PM

anyway. back to the solution, faircoin and friends (edited)

sorry i am stuck in darkness and pessimism this evening

I look up usually 'feel good movie', or music ...

how about 'little miss sunshine' for tonite ? makes me laugh everytime, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449059/ - or 'cast away' (edited)

otherwise, 'the dobermen'

ok, let's get real, how about 'Swiss Army Man', little favourite, 'https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4034354/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_15', perfectly stupid and gets to the finish line

Swiss Army Man (2016) - IMDb

Directed by Dan Kwan, Daniel Scheinert. With Paul Dano, Daniel Radcliffe, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Antonia Ribero. A hopeless man stranded on a deserted island befriends a dead body and together they go on a surreal journey to get home.

The surfing with fart power was ridiculous

yeah, - I like the whole story - getting over loneliness -- quite a challenge. apparently apps and phones seem to fill 'the void' of this world .. @Timberstar , ok, then it's UK underground, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq2z2u58ma0 - that's true talent

Guys how can I sort plastic? When I don't have info about it?

Ideally with an optical scanner, that tells you what it's made of. (#deleted-channel) Low-tech is density tests in salt water and burning a small piece to see how it behaves. I don't like the low-tech options. Finding the melting point also tells you what plastic it is, more or less.

can I ask for some help with something distinctly non-plastic

sure

@Frederik C (ZA) thank you.

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Pretty random crazy thought but would it actually be possible to turn plastic wastes into a material that conducts electricity? (edited)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl39KHS07Xc Just for Precious Plastic??? Only one-way exchange @Deleted User @Timberstar @Eric Lotze@Frederik C (ZA) (edited)

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

Universal Basic Income Explained – Free Money for Everybody? UBI

7:30 AM

In smaller scale?

@Lazy_Turtle Re: infinity "Two things are infinite: The Universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the Universe" — Albert Einstein (edited)

Yeah some use the second infinite to do things:( Knowledge is power

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But basically, your question pertains to the difference between time and causality. There is a difference. But it's highly abstract and counter-intuitive to our "linear" experience of reality. I mean, who understands the delayed choice quantum eraser? It's real. It happens. We can make photons time travel. How does it work?

As Richard Feynman said, anyone who claims to understand it, doesn't understand it. (edited)

11:58 AM

Feynman himself, was arguably one of the greatest minds in history. He never claimed to understand it.

I don't understand and I really don't understand

I think UBI is probably used as a distraction from other equally important issues. 1) UBI is only necessary because of the concentraion of the means of production. 2) If you can create unlimited money (like the Federal Reserve) without hyperinflation, then why is UBI even open to debate? This is a "debate" about restoring a fundamental power balance to the World. Not about where to set an artificially created and defined "poverty floor."

12:34 PM

Thousands of years ago, there was no such thing as poverty.

@Lazy_Turtle just to try to understand, what happens if a country give more money than other? i mean, What impede people from moving to the highest paying country?

Nazis in the White House... and walls. Lots of big ass WALLS.

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WTF?! HAAHAHAHA

@lean.dron I was thinking to use UBI for PPC (Precious Plastic Coin)

@Lazy_Turtle sounds interesting. what exactly you mean?

Economy should be independent in Precious Plastic Universe, separated from $s and euros

(im new on this project so probably ask things well knowed)

It's not well knowed, it's my idea.

12:51 PM

It's simple, we are going to set up our own currency. Economy for recycling. (my dream)

It's not well knowed, it's my idea.

@Lazy_Turtle im not saying it´s. Im just saying

@lean.dron I know:)

It's simple, we are going to set up our own currency. Economy for recycling. (my dream)

@Lazy_Turtle ok, but maybe the dump question. how we buy food?

Good question.

12:53 PM

You can't exchange currency in my idea(some people here have other ideas)

12:53 PM

You HAVE TO invest in some kind of recycling, so that you get REAL money.

12:53 PM

I'm not an economist btw

@Lazy_Turtle me neither xD

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It should be one-way exchange, from real to PPC.

ok, how i can earn PPC? buying it or working for it?

Hold on...

12:55 PM

2

12:56 PM

Sorry I will be offline for a few min

clearly i´ll gonna need a minute for this and then return

12:56 PM

thanks to share

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The World is more or less divided into the "Powers" and their colonies. The colonies can go bankrupt, but the Powers can't, because their central banks are not auditable and therefore can issue as much credit as they want, because they "owe" the money to literally no-one. There is no identifiable entity at the end of the "credit chain."

If you live in a country that can go bankrupt, your entire government and economy is somebody's bitch. "Cool and normal"

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As long as you can understand that money is nothing more than a concept, you can eventually think your way out of this "very complicated" paper bag that your Rulers have put over your head and you are suffocating in.

2:16 PM

Well, most us anyway... Not all brains are created equal. That's just how it is. Don't shoot the messenger...

BTW... If your hands are tied behind your back, you escape from a paper bag by licking it, and sticking your tongue through the soft part, to make a breathing hole.

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2

I remember a comedian (I forgot who) who said something like: "Since we all owe the central banks, why don't we just find out who all the central banks owe their money to... and just go kill that f&%ker."

Was wondering one day too about this, why not putting a limit on one can have. I would be super happy starting with Bill Gates, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, and everybody in the Bilderberg club ...

but hey, don't forget - the world isn't f****ed up because of some evil f$%$, it's because of us - allowing it

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we have been here around 7 months ago though. it comes all down to this : Corruption is manifested into the deepest corners of society - without - pretty much nothing would work anymore

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3:43 PM

anyways, instead trying to fix the world, fix you and the others around you - work on solutions

There was a great article on Hackernews recently, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23445944 | (read the comments, as always) | '50 IDEAS THAT CHANGED MY LIFE'

Tomte

Ideas That Changed My Life

Don't get me wrong... It's not actually that easy of a situation. History is full of slave revolts. Most them just weren't successful. The Powers became the Powers through sheer violence and merciless brutality. Don't forget that. In South Africa, about 200 years ago, the British said to the local tribes: "You must now work on our farms and in our mines." Tribes: "Why?" British: "To earn money." Tribes: "Why do we need this thing called 'money'?" British: "To pay your land taxes." Tribes: "We have lived on this land for thousands of years. We never paid taxes before." British: "You do now." Tribes: "Why?" British: "Because we have guns."

i'm diving into PET workflows today:

7:01 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/PET_Plastic_Recycling_Workflow

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Plastic_Bottle_Peeler

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7:01 PM

was it @Deleted User who had some work on that?

no - but great we have a PET dossier after all - great - thanks a lot.

can ya grab the link plz

7:03 PM

don't want to waste any time doing stuff you already did lol

didn't do much about - except collecting 3d PET print research and developments

i'm diving into the drying aspect mainly

7:15 PM

the printing/extruding/fdm filament making is SOMEWHAT covered no?

@Deleted User any research on water content vs (some strength quality) / chemical purity (ie pet vs broken down "stuff" )

@Eric Lotze - only print - see https://plastic-hub.github.io/noah/ - and '3dseed' PET printer. Then there is the first public space grade bottle vending shredder 'asterix' in progress, (https://github.com/plastic-hub/products/tree/master/products/asterix - check again in Sept/Oct for updates); apparently the customer wants to sell the flakes back to the industry (multi stream waste) - we try on the other hand get it printed in a cheaper module but for that we have to roll out again another R&D project alone first.

12:31 AM

Extruding : no - you'd need twin screws - and a highly precise system filament : same (edited)

12:34 AM

There is only fiber/yarn left to be researched - 'DIY' wise though- but as said - that's nasty stuff - sooner or later ..

fiber as in only from peeling, or from shreding/melting

no no, we had this recently on #archived-machines though - the extruder spitting out yarn like stuff - you remember ?

ill go dig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw0uWNlbiTQ & the other russian friends

fiber white

Производства волокна

12:37 AM

evtl. @ShrednMelt_Xu and us is picking it sometime this year

forget the word, spray molding or something

12:38 AM

that is used for filters too in a reel to reel setup

12:39 AM

i had some goofy 90's / 2000s documentary yt clip on nonwoven fabrics

well - there is lots of 'precious' PET, looks like a good fit for the PP portfolio to have at least one way recycling it en mass, no idea (edited)

my plotting was:

12:43 AM

(phase 1) washed pet bottles->peeler->rope for boats/lashings etc

12:43 AM

(phase 2) washed pet stuff -> shredder -> dryer/food dehydrator etc -> dry box -> pp stuff

12:44 AM

(phase 3) all the high tech stuff you mentioned + fdm filament

12:44 AM

also look into pet -> petg (did a page on ose about this NEED A REAL CHEMIST as it's above my level lol)

right, let me take notes - I am burned for today - still have to figure a solution for those guys walking into our shop - again - asking for money - or else (edited)

found the name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melt_blowing

Melt blowing

Melt blowing is a conventional fabrication method of micro- and nanofibers where a polymer melt is extruded through small nozzles surrounded by high speed blowing gas. The randomly deposited fibers form a nonwoven sheet product applicable for filtration, sorbents, apparels and...

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I'm logging off for the day, be back on in 6-10hrs

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I'm fairly new here but I have a couple of recycling/re-purposing questions I would like help with, any takers?

Hi everyone, is it possible to produce yarn using the extruder/extruder pro?

And weeeeeeeeeeeeere live! I'm back on for the day

1:15 PM

@Nick - PP France i don't know as i don't think there has been TOO much experimenting with this

1:15 PM

should be do-able for ~1cm or so wide strands, less than that idk

@Eric Lotze what was the subject ?

making yarn

1:35 PM

also look into bottle to rope workflows, using a bottle peeler (edited)

1:35 PM

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/719680674356789289

I'd be looking at 0.3-0.5mm thickness - for use in clothing production

currently that can't be done

1:37 PM

it is in (long term) conceptual design, so feel free to join in the development!

1:38 PM

not sure I'd bring much to the table in design - I'm writing my masters diss (entrepreneurship) I don't have a background in chemistry or engineering, thanks anyway

@Eric Lotze Yann worked on making rope out of PET (1mm iirc) during the V4 developpement

assuming via the peeler?

there was a whole topic on the forum on that regard.

1:55 PM

he had developped a more advanced peeler for that process

@nick.ratnarajah i am purely armchair-ish so i think any help is useful! (you can "learn by osmosis" ) Also your intrest makes you seem like a good "on the ground test-er" / use case

https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/pet-ropes-and-filaments-making-v4/https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/pet-ropes-and-filaments-making-v4/

Yann

V4 PET solutions - [ROPES & FILAMENTS] - Dave Hakkens

Hi guys ! Yann here, I already posted on “Finding a solution for PET” topic, but as the rope making takes a lot of experiement by itself, we decided to create a separate topic. So - Dave Hakkens

nice, adding that page to the ose one under "existing open source designs"

1:58 PM

done:

1:58 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Plastic_Bottle_Peeler

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/PET_Plastic_Recycling_Workflow

Can you add other strands of bottle together in any way? Also has anyone tried putting PET through an extruder? PET also has heat ahinking abilities so you can use it as a sort of shink rope.

*shrinking abilities

idk the main issue with PP using PET (as of now) is hydrolysis of pet when heated (ie it must be VERY dry)

4:29 PM

i'm plotting how to do so here:

4:29 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Universal_Manual_Power_Source

ALSO

5:44 PM

found this when doing some FES work:

5:44 PM

Open Source Universal Manual Power Source

5:44 PM

may be of use for those human powered pp machines

5:44 PM

all conceptual dev as of now (like 2/3 of my projects lol)

lol marcin just got on and made like 5 ose accounts!

why?

probs woke up for the day, and i have been n e t w o r k i n g so more devs are joining

what does it mean patreon in the chat bar?

probably patreon supporters

12:05 AM

ie they paid money as a donation there and thus get "recognized" same as those name bricks at schools etc

12:08 AM

Caffeine Crash is Hitting Pretty Hard, I'll take a Ciesta for a few hours or so.

thanks ^^

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're live, i am now back online and a'workin

I'm logging off for the day, be back on in 6-10hrs (edited)

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Hi, I'm Benjamin from Chile, I want to make the world a better place as the majority of you and I want to make incredible products with recycled plastic.

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HI I'm Twiga , I am trying to look for recycling options for PVC inflatable toys. I know we can't recycle in the precious plastic machines, but does anyone know if you can re -mold through heating and create large sheets from assembled smaller pieces? I want' to create a large sheet of PVC from assorted smaller pieces - can that work?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand were live! I am now online so feel free to spam @ me + ask questions and/or request dumb (sarcastic) jokes

2:25 PM

PVC is pretty nasty stuff, and is thus best stored or left to the experts @Twiga

To be a bit more precise concerning the answer @Twiga , PPs position concerning PVC is a no-go because of the VERY harmful fumes which are generated when heated ( = put at melting temperature). This is not specific to PP machines but the fumes created. If you are to work with PVC, be careful to have VERY good respiratory protections + best if you can do that outdoors or have a good fume-extraction system :=) (edited)

is it chlorine gas or what, now i'm curious?

Chlorure d'hydrogène (in french), which would be Hydrogen Chloride (?) (edited)

hydrocholic acid lol (i think)

2:30 PM

beathe in ACID big no

2:30 PM

a water scrubber may work though, and produce dilute HC acid?

2:30 PM

still nasty stuff though lol

2:30 PM

let me grab a msds or something

It's Hydrogen Chloride

2:32 PM

塩化水素In Japanese, just learning these stuff now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_chloride

Hydrogen chloride

The compound hydrogen chloride has the chemical formula HCl and as such is a hydrogen halide. At room temperature, it is a colourless gas, which forms white fumes of hydrochloric acid upon contact with atmospheric water vapor. Hydrogen chloride gas and hydrochloric acid are im...

2:33 PM

"which forms white fumes of hydrochloric acid upon contact with atmospheric water vapor"

2:33 PM

oof

it forms hydrochloric acid with water, thats how air scrubbers work

or your moist l u n g s / e y e s

2:33 PM

seems kinda ok to control though, just need HUGE suction on a hose wet scruber?

you can make one with a barrel full of pingpong balls

yep, like this:

2:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_g4nT4a28U

Tech Ingredients

Revolutionary Air Conditioner!

2:34 PM

but only water, not liquid dessicant

2:34 PM

ie just one tube

2:34 PM

or this design if fancy:

2:35 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2MvR5pMPdQ&list=PLq6IzRhDFdPOzkShxViaD9rWiwfnECmuh&index=3&t=2s

Locke Lab

My Invention: Two Stage Electrospray Ionizing Wetscrubber DIY

2:36 PM

will need good suction, and still goggles definetly (eyes are VERY risky)

2:36 PM

and is riscky still with all this (edited)

2:36 PM

so don't laugh it off as "Oh ItS EASY" (edited)

2:37 PM

not easy, but controllable with a pile of work and kit

2:37 PM

Any idea on workability when molten?

a simple sprinkler is adequate to increase the surface area of the water

2:37 PM

no need for mist, its more dangerous

do we have any industrial engineers, i was wondering all the spray tower vs randomly packed column mess

but it should be a larger barrel

yep

blue hdpe barrel is ideal (edited)

anyhow; PVC recycling as a DIY is quite risky, hence PPs position on the subject :p recycle and stay safe :)

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in tech ingredients first video, they uses a RPC with "bio balls". In 2 they used long shower based spray collumns

2:39 PM

and don't blame PP corperate if trying it and going blind/dying.

Thanks @Eric Lotze and Nick - sounds like it's beyond my level, I will not be messing with hydrochloric acid

idk suprisingly easy compared to SOME other nasty fumes that can't be water scrubbed!

PVC releases dioxins and carbon monoxide as well. https://completewastemgmt.com/backyard-burning/ Dioxins became infamous after Formosa destroyed Texas with it in the 1980s. It ruined my hometown. Horrible stuff.

o o f

6:11 PM

are they water scrubbable, or do they need more intense methods?

6:13 PM

ie solvents/dual cycling pyrolysis units/absorbents or sorbents

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/dioxins-and-their-effects-on-human-health Scroll down after the horror show and see that really only way to remove is to burn in a controlled setting.

Dioxins and their effects on human health

WHO fact sheet on dioxins and their effects on human health: includes key facts, definition, sources, contamination incidents, control, reduction of risk, WHO response.

i know they are HORRIBLE large scale

6:16 PM

and the end product MUST be disposed of properly

6:16 PM

ie not dumped outside

6:17 PM

i am wondering how to remove from air/surfaces etc

I'll research more and send more relevant links.

thx!

Wow, cleaning the fumes involves... primary scrubber of Sulfur Dioxide and secondaries of... wait for it....! Activated Carbon filters! The primary process though is at very high temperatures. The end product of combustion is water, carbon dioxide and Hydrochloric acid (HCl). If further treatment is done to remove the HCl or combine it with the carbon relesed other useful chemicals can be made. In other words, unless you plan to go into the chemical plant business and do depolymerization (dp) to break this stuff down, dioxins are way too nasty to deal with on the local level. I have been talking to an old friend of mine who has a doctorate in petrochemical engineering (plastics) and he says avoid DP like the plague. Too many things can and will go wrong easily.

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2/3 of my chat on here near the end of a chunk :

6:42 PM

https://youtu.be/UnJytdCvhMI?t=18

Sally Swan's Magic Movie World

Do you concur?

6:46 PM

With that being the case, a Nobel prize may be awarded to whomever figures out a simple local process for dioxin rehabilitation.

yep lol

7:13 PM

how available is local hazmat for water disposal

7:13 PM

ie stuff scrubber water in a barrel and take to expers every week/month?

7:13 PM

i know some small labs/medical offices do this

The infrastructure just will not be available in poor or developing communities. It would be interesting as an NGO, especially as a way to build up a recycling community that is symbiotic with PP in some way.

definetly

8:31 PM

but for developed (or make an os ngo for that....) it is doable imo

8:31 PM

and opens up the PILE pvc etc is

8:31 PM

~~also good ol dilute and dispose and hope not to kill locals lol~~

I have been researching this whole time, brain burn. There are some possibilities of using enymes on the forefront, but PVC would still require thermal breakdown under Nitrogen gas flow to create a feedstock for an enzyme reactor. I don't see that as a viable option quite yet. High output (20L/m) Nitrogen generators are available for $25k that run off electricity. Run it off solar and battery and you have a useful chemical for use or sale. Then build out from there to buy thermal plant, reactor and bioenzymes. This would eventually allow for vinyls to be fed into it and produce soap, surfactants or virgin vinyl.

how hot?

8:53 PM

nitrogen is easy

8:54 PM

pipe/pressure/temp is the "kicker"

8:54 PM

and catalysts lol

The only "high" energy usage would be in the thermal process. It occurs at 300°C (572°F). This could also be helped with solar oven and heat recovery.

use waste heat from my pyrolysis unit/a rocket stove

8:55 PM

seems easy enough

8:55 PM

what pressure?

Tech warning: flow rate of N2 gas was set around 0.47–0.85 Nm3 kg−1

o o f

8:57 PM

but how hard are t i n y valves

8:58 PM

that is nano right?

Newton meters per kilogram

is that giant or what i'm no industrial chem engi lol

I'll find a conversion. I'm lost too.

s a m e

9:00 PM

newton meter is force i think right?

9:01 PM

so perhaps flow pressure

9:01 PM

like fan "strongness"

9:01 PM

and kg is easy

9:01 PM

i just need to know what is at home compressor vs petchem factory size lol

9:01 PM

shop compressor + PSA unit n2 gas is EASY

9:02 PM

and can get 99.9 purity in one stage

9:02 PM

better in a 2 stage cascade

It may also mean something else. Got to love technical articles that assume you're in their field of expertise,.

9:08 PM

It states, "Nm3kg-1" in the article. Mr. Google doesn't like it very much.

c2kijrvijvrjoi;glkj;liok-arrangment b

9:08 PM

+ unspecified catalyst

9:08 PM

~~insert jargon here~~

https://meddic.jp/index.php/fluidize Scroll down to English journal and you will be on the same page. Literally...

9:12 PM

We need a chemist in here.

excuse me

9:41 PM

can you make injection moulds with ceramic or cement

9:41 PM

?

definetly

9:42 PM

Plaster molds work well (i think; double check me)

On the note of Translators can we make that a role?

4:28 AM

especially as PP is VERY international

Oh yeah that's a good idea

and with this many people there is no need to be a "UsE EnGlish OnlY" asshole

4:29 AM

especially new people!

4:29 AM

killing languages is BAD imo

I translate games I love in their discord

d i v e r s i t y lol

4:29 AM

also google translate bots?

4:29 AM

any of em (~~i am developing an open source one too~~) out there?

ah that's premium option

fuckin a

4:30 AM

then

4:30 AM

o p e n s o u r c e d e v t i m e

yep

with the stuff i don't get i usually copy paste to my server and there I'm using "auto translate bot"

I actually use Google translate addon on chrome

same, is there a discord app?

4:35 AM

/bot

Smoogle is a good translation bot.

is it free and/or OS ?

4:47 AM

i know 2min papers has 2/3 of this shit lol

4:47 AM

just needs "packaging" + optimization/debugging imo (edited)

WHEL, I AM LOGGIN OFF FOR THE DAY; i'll be back in 6-12 hrs

oh, not 10 hours?

What's everyone's thought on BIG community points/PP sub HQ, for example Precious Plastic Asia?

Hello

9:46 AM

Anybody here?

Hi there!

OMG, Hello! I was looking for online member!

Yep online member you are looking for!

I’m 13 years old kid who got amazing interests on plastic issues.

9:47 AM

I’m actually trying lot of volunteers, activities

guess what

Yes?

I'm 13 yr old too

Oh my lord. You was a 13 yr? I thought this was full of 40 yr old people

9:48 AM

nope

Actually, I’m from New York

9:48 AM

United States

9:49 AM

, Queens.

Things ok there?

9:49 AM

from tokyo btw

The age-range of the PP community is quite big :)

It's getting bigger

9:51 AM

Power of internet.

I know right, BLM + Coronavirus

9:52 AM

Just being crazy.

Maybe not the right time for trash cleanups.

Mhm, we need to fix serious things rn

9:53 AM

In “Plastical” perspectives lol

So how did you find your way here?

Ryoma, I would like to start small environmental organization formed with teens only maybe few adults. Would you like to join the journey?

Online?

And through google.

9:54 AM

Yes

Yes sure, but in what form?

I knew Precious Plastic from long a go

9:55 AM

Online.

like website?

We are from different countries silly lol

9:55 AM

We’re developing it

We?

And try to stand up

9:55 AM

Actually “I”

Haha I can help

Thanks, what is your name?

Ryoma Kamei

Beautiful name. Let me invite on our new built server

Thanks:)

https://discord.gg/VYz6tf

Seems like this is getting to a good private communication point, mind keeping that up in private message ? :D @Lazy_Turtle @Deleted User

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Sorry, and alright.

Thanks for reminding @Nick - PP France got too interested

Is anybody here? I got some question

@Deleted User if you look on the right side of your screen, you should see all the people online :) Drop your question in related channel and people will most certainly answer you :) (edited)

oh!

11:14 AM

I was being silly

French German speakers a bit on what we do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll8Zplvq004&feature=youtu.be https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/093718-020-A/plastik-der-feind-der-meere/

ARTE

Le plastique, ennemi des mers | Tous les Internets | ARTE

Plastik, der Feind der Meere | ARTE

Julien Moreau ist ein französischer Wissenschaftler in Schottland. Obwohl die Strände dort wenig besucht sind, werden mehrere Tonnen Plastikmüll angespült. Er hat das Online-Portal Plastic@Bay ins Leben gerufen und prangert die Politiker weltweit an, die nichts gegen den Plast...

Hi guys, just joined this chat, nice to meet You all

I'm looking for more detailed info to properly choose motor to choose for shedder machine. Can anybody online help me? Is this one the right room for info?

5:02 PM

Thks

Hi @Deleted User #archived-machines might be best, but I'd also be happy to help you.

Hey Just posted a new website for my nonprofit foundation, http://www.oneexistencefoundation.org/ CHECK IT OUT we are trying to transform plastic waste into housing and other using material If you would like to help with ideas or join the team feel free to go on the site and sign up or just chat with me and ask questions.

Home | One Existence Foundation

Hello everyone, can styrofoam can be recycled?

@PP Nigeria Not typically in "traditional" recycling but it seems like PP's best potential to make it happen by new means. Check this video out. https://youtu.be/e4n1-25z1mM

Warm Heart Worldwide

Styrofoam Bricks DIY

@CitSciWorkshop thanks for sharing this lovely video

@PP Nigeria I'm 50% asking is this too good to be true?! But fully

I want to try it.

i'm loggin off for the day; gettin sleepy therefore sloppy; gnight y'all (be back online in 6-12 hrs)

@PP Nigeria There is also the potential to "densify" polystyrene (PS) into solid tiles / paving stones. There is also an emerging technique of "farming" with mealworms, where the PS is fed to the worms and they turn it into fertilizer. They seem to be able to digest it, without leaving microplastic residue in their bodies or poop. But you need to set up supply chains with agricultural businesses to make that work. You end up with a lot of dead bugs and bug poop, because of their short lifespans.

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@Frederik C (ZA) i have been doing experiments since approx 2 years with mealworms and PSE (styrofoam), it works, but the process is SUUUUUUUUPER slow :o

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9:02 AM

and they ultimately need water to survive so you need to complement their feeding (can't survive on PSE alone)

Yeah, generally PS is just the "spawn of Satan" and is just a horrible, horrible invention that shouldn't exist.

@Frederik C (ZA) DM me let discussion on the process thanks so much

11:40 AM

@Nick - PP France can I see any videos in respect to that?

@PP Nigeria Nick - Recycle & Moi can tell you a lot more. I only know the basic theory. Let me try to find the relevant chat history. That's all I've got for you.

No sorry i don't have any video related to it; i'll try to find some on youtube : here is a timelapse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL6M2dPo47Q

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Regarding the plastic bricks...

12:19 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqn1PYbkgf0

Recycle Rebuild

Why the world needs recycled plastic bricks (and how to make one yo...

12:19 PM

Any chance that an alternative to solid bricks would work?

12:19 PM

One of the things that I want to tinker with up here in the arctic is combining two things.

12:20 PM

recycled and compressed cardboard

12:20 PM

Like in this vid

12:20 PM

https://youtu.be/0ItPfhx3ulw

XYZAidan

Recycle Cardboard into Anything with 3D Printing!

i think the limitation of using plastic in construction is based on the material not being fire resistant

yeah, but I was thinking of using it as siding

12:21 PM

Most vinyl siding isn't fire resistant

12:21 PM

In fact, plywood is also used and it's very much not resistant to fire

true; that would be specific to each country's laws on that regard, i don't think there is a worldwide dictate on that matter (edited)

So, hypothetically, you made a cardboard mold. Then you sprayed that mold with melted recycled plastic; thereby waterproofing the compressed cardboard and preventing it from absorbing and weakening with moisture

12:22 PM

If you sealed it along it's exterior, it'd probably also float

12:23 PM

So, imagine one of those cardboard molds basically wrapped in a thin layer of plastic

If you sealed it along it's exterior, it'd probably also float

@sirukin yes, don't use PET or PS or PLA for that, each polymer has it's properties including density :)

Yeah!

12:24 PM

Saw that video recently and found it quite fascinating as it has implications for microplastics in nature too

12:24 PM

nature being the ocean

12:30 PM

Just watching the video now. So, the cool bit about layering plastic over a cardboad mold is that shrinking on a metal mold wouldn't be an issue. In fact, it'd create an air tight seal on the cardboard

12:30 PM

Plastic dipping?

@PP Nigeria The chats were a bit scattered, but using "mealworms" as a keyword, you should find some info. Search the forum too. Here are some chats: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/669730609240866836 https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/600998730262380545/666296961174863904 If you meant the densifier: I also only know the theory and would like to do some experiments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594HFX_Oh40 Also, PP doesn't "officially" have any programs for this stuff. Some of the members are just messing with it, on their own. (edited)

Jervin Kabigting

(Operation Manual) Plastic Melter / Densifier (Waste Plastic Recycl...

Interesting

1:12 PM

So, one of the proposed problems is the presence of sunlight and oxygen

1:12 PM

What if you layered the exterior sun exposed side in recycled aluminum?

1:13 PM

How could you a much more viscous plastic for dipping cardboard in?

Hello all, what motor parameters are require for shredder? RPM, kWt ect...

2:17 PM

Hello, what motor parameters are require for shredder? RPM, kWt ect...

2:18 PM

if u can saggest

2:18 PM

suggest

Can anybody make a website?

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We've tried heating plastic in a fairly closed environment and we ended up getting quite light headed and a feeling of being high, has anyone else experienced this too ?

indeed, @the_troubleshooter it happened to me too while working with no protection :/ melting plastic has to be done seriously ! https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety (edited)

@Deleted User I would be happy to show you how, in the way that I know how to. But it comes down to your comfort level and choice of tools. (edited)

6:24 PM

many ways to make a website

6:25 PM

What do you need it to do, for it to work for you?

All ~~dev~~ work and no sleep makes eric a~~n annoying~~ dull dev/mod ? I am online fyi so feel free to ping me (edited)

@Nick - PP France perfect thank you !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyfputUXCD0

Mark Bachrach

Plastic Plate Press Process - MMID Foundation - Mark Bachrach

11:37 PM

How easy is this to do?

11:39 PM

That looks like the most effective method for recycling plastic into something usable

11:44 PM

Ah cool. Dave posted a video in Jan 2020 about this

11:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3OctDe3xVk

How to build a plastic sheetpress machine and make sheets

Hey guys, I'm new here. Was wondering where I can download the Plastic melting guide poster?

Let me dig @Singleshutter

2:02 AM

ALSO i finally made a non default profile pic, are the "regulars" proud? It's a (bad, cellphone with no glass) photo of mine from a zoo's gardens

2:04 AM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics

(Operation Manual) Plastic Melter / Densifier (Waste Plastic Recycl...

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

2:04 AM

@Singleshutter

2:05 AM

i found this, tell me if it works!

bricks are not solid and also need a more rapid filling and cooling process to get a brick that is not deformed like this one.

@sirukin

4:10 AM

@PP Nigeria The chats were a bit scattered, but using "mealworms" as a keyword, you should find some info. Search the forum too. Here are some chats: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/669730609240866836 https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/600998730262380545/666296961174863904 If you meant the densifier: I also only know the theory and would like to do some experiments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=594HFX_Oh40 Also, PP doesn't "officially" have any programs for this stuff. Some of the members are just messing with it, on their own.

@Frederik C (ZA) Can people PLEASE stop with the plastic densifier stuff. We wasted a entire day going to this guys shop. He is making extremely overpriced garbage with booger welding. He could not even bother cleaning and sorting his plastic before shredding. He gave us samples of shred plastic filled with pesticides and drain cleaner. The samples of densified blockss wer rubbery black stuff. Smelled awful and had human hair stuck to them. We put some blocks in the trunk of the car, and it smelled so bad, we had to stop the car at a rest area after 45 min, and throw in the trash. Extremely dissappointed does not begin to describe. This is the biggest reason why I started making machines myself.

Jervin Kabigting

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~~also microplastics~~

4:43 AM

~~and outgassing and uv leading to degradation outside/in use~~

Bonjour a tous, nouveau ici je ne parle pas Anglais

French server:

6:26 AM

https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn

Invite to join a server

accueil

Merci beaucoup

Maybe I should learn French

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outch @Butte (PP Philippines) thanks for feedback, seems like a pretty bad experience indeed =/

Doesn't necessarily invalidate the basic process. I made no claims about the company or the technique.

~~and outgassing and uv leading to degradation outside/in use~~

@Eric Lotze it is not even that, the rubbery plastic gunk sticks to your shoes and tracks inside. It is merely a large cook pot with a stir paddle where they mix used cooking oil and unwashed/unsort plastic to make this black goo. They sell this overpriced cook pot for 6 thousand USD.

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@Butte (PP Philippines) Really good advice, I was very enthusiastic about this method before reading ur text, have u seen some methods like this but functional that u could share?

Hello, I am curious if somebody works on recycling the real leather.

That's crazy

How safe is the bazar? Kind of iffy about giving my credit card information. How secure is it

12:33 AM

Will it except a prepaid card

Hello, can someone help me? I want to make recycled 3D printer filament but I dont know which raw material use

12:34 AM

Sorry for my english, if latin

12:34 AM

I'm*

@Butte (PP Philippines) Really good advice, I was very enthusiastic about this method before reading ur text, have u seen some methods like this but functional that u could share?

@ccarrilloo Big extrusion with plastic and sand, then press with compression molder works. Some are using milled cellulose filler also like Ford

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Any advice for working with transparent Polystyrene? I'd love to make some bricks and have seen it in two precious plastics videos but I can never get it soft enough to mold it keeps shrinking up.

3:40 AM

New logo for PlasticRise

@maty esto quizá te pueda servir https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyfputUXCD0

@ccarrilloo muchas gracias!!!!

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Matias, can you speak english?

Okay, sorry. I want to build an accessory or something for the v3 precious plastic extruder, for making 3D printer filaments

Oh, you can’t find basic blueprint on the google?

Obviusly I found many blueprints, but they are too difficult for me to build. I need something simple and efficient

4:26 AM

I have some experience with Arduino and stuff but not that many

Yeah that’s true.

4:35 AM

Also, I’m think of making some trendy stuff with recycled plastic.

4:35 AM

Apple Watch Band, Phone Case something like this?

We are focused in 3D printer filaments because we don't have any factory producing it in our country so it is a big opportunity

Hm alright

We will make other products too but for now, we want to make the filaments

Ok

i found this, tell me if it works!

@Eric Lotze Yes!!! Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for!

Anyone know of any work being done in Detroit, MI, USA? I have looked at the map. Also, I am thinking about starting a community point. Any tips for an area with no activity?

How safe is the bazar? Kind of iffy about giving my credit card information. How secure is it

@my_precious_poly It runs through Stripe ( and I believe Paypal still) we've had transactions both ways and always secure.

Hey, does anyone here know what they used to build davehakkens.nl? Thanks:)

Probably Webflow

@elementalAndrew Check out Thing Thing based out of Detroit: https://www.thingthing.us

WORK — THING THING

Thanks @Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG)

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@maty where are you from?

Paraguay @lean.dron

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Hi!

@sirukin What are the gel or chemical that can be used to clean the moulds that the plastic will not stick on the mould also, make the recycled products smooth?

Mark Bachrach

Plastic Plate Press Process - MMID Foundation - Mark Bachrach

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@PP Nigeria we tried a couple of oil, best one up to now is silicon oil.

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shouldn't precious plastic accept bitcoin cash?

7:37 PM

Hi

To be honest, accepting bitcoin will disturb preciousplastic’s concentration

1:25 AM

Patreon is enough. My personal idea

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1:38 AM

Use Eco-Bag or Multi-Use bag! (edited)

ok

7:24 AM

There is quite some people in Philippines and Bangladesh that could like the project, how could they start / help out?

7:25 AM

there's this article trying to create awareness https://read.cash/@ancient.stone/get-involved-work-1209aaf9 and it got quite a good reception

Get involved, work

There is this open source project, when I saw it for the first time I wanted to participate and be part of it. But in my country plastics are not as big of a problem as in other places and there is no...

@Brown Bear A few people should volunteer to start a community point. That becomes the main information and co-ordination hub for people who want to lend a hand. The website gives guidelines on how to start a community point and register it on the network, so that locals can find them.

Yes I have seen the site thoroughly

9:48 AM

Thank you

I'm new to pp, and I'm looking at building my own basic machines! Super excited about the possibilities :) Can anyone tell me/point me in the right direction for more info about emissions/fumes from the melting process? I'm wondering the effect on the environment and if anyone knows of solutions or machine mods to help!

Can someone tell me where I can find the 3D Files of the 2.0 Plastic Shredder?

Hey guys im new here. I have a question. I looking for the coins where stands "HDPE 2" or "PP"? He said in one Video you can buy it on the Bazar but i can´t find them. Can someone help me ´?

https://plasticrise.webflow.io/

PlasticRise

Learn about plastic issues and change your perspective of plastic with us!

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4:59 AM

Finally we released our beta website.

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We can use cotton bags , that is the best alternative.. Preferably white coloured as it does not require dying it with colours

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You should really work on mobile optimization

We can use cotton bags Or heat-fuse waste LDPE together to make thicker, more durable plastic shopping bags, that can be reused. No new material needed. In fact, probably no machines needed either (for small scale production.) Also, I'm not sure any argument against durable bags is valid. I've avoided using literally hundreds (if not over a thousand) plastic bags by using non-woven polypropylene bags. They last for years and are washable.

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10:52 AM

@slee https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety https://youtu.be/bsj6qHHLynk

@Adren They were available earlier in the year: https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/603882168934203412/674245782639214614 They seem to constantly run out of stock. Localized on-demand production seems to be the only answer. That's what I proposed at the time.

@Frederik C (ZA) thanks. Sad that they dont have them anymore (edited)

In the meantime, keep an eye on the bazar from time to time. There's also a DIY branding How To using copper wire: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-a-simple-stamp-from-copper-wire

I would like to make a coffee cup-sized mini electrical furnace, to make stuff like coins, on demand, with green sand casting. Should be cheaper / less time-consuming than buying or building a CNC mill. (Although that would be nice too, for many reasons.)

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@Frederik C (ZA) gaseous fuel, electric resistive, or induction heating?

Hey! Would you know if this is the best Would this be the best motor for the V4 Pr Shredder? 240VAC 3 Phase, 5HP CW/CCW Rotation motor

SALUT

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@Megglesbaggles that is the US/N.American equivalent of the EU Precious Plastic specs. In EU where 3PH 400VAC is accessible, US 240VAC 3PH runs the same range of motors. Then steps up to 440VAC for really big stuff.

@CitSciWorkshop Thank you

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ello

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@Eric Lotze Induction heating would preferable. But I don't know that much about the tech. I haven't really looked at it. And I've never seen a really small one. Only desktop ones. Plus the resistive wire can be salvaged from common appliances. I already have some broken fan heaters in my junk pile.

I'm open to better, more cost-effective ideas. (edited)

@Megglesbaggles ~~Ask the machine nerds in the #archived-machines channel.~~ Oh, sorry. You got an answer, above. (edited)

Hello everyone. I am new to this channel. I am looking forward to work on recycling and here to start with something. Any guidance from anyone of you would be really helpfull

Hey I just got an Email that i received a new message on the precious plastic bazar. But I can't find any messages. Anyone else had the same problem?

@Plasticwork.ch are you a seller or just a regular user?

I am a seller

And did you login to your seller dashboard, and look at the message center under the customers tab?

Jep

more production tests for our hyrdoponic grow wall/grain elevator buckets

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2:39 AM

Observations: the v3 compression screw is not output enough plastic per hour. We are at 3.1 kilos per hour

2:40 AM

We are using a steel mold that is liquid cooled one side only. The inside of the mold is hollow and we are pumping water thru it with a aquarium pump to a recycled blue barrel of water.

2:42 AM

Our log splitter hacked compression molder is not perfect. The plastic needs to be under pressure while cooling to prevent warping. We are unable to hold under the max 6 tons pressure because there is a check valve in the machine. once the motor is off, pressure forces the hydraulic fluid backwards and losens the mold.

2:43 AM

solution: Back to the air bag jack model mold. Also need to consider liquid cooling both the outside of the mold and inside of the mold. With a water jacket.

2:44 AM

We changed our mold release to using emon furniture polish. the cheapest brand worked the best. Unable to get more mold release spray due to the wuflu. Using automotive silicone lube spray is wasteful, as it sprays too much. Pledge furniture polish also sprayed too fast and wasted material. Pledge also has a lot of water in it.

2:47 AM

Still having issues with the extrusion machine feeding plastic. Have to constantly agitate the material hopper to keep it from jamming. Possible I may have to hack some sort of drill bit /feed screw/stirrer to ensure a adequate feed, OR a auger feeding shred from the hopper to the compression srew.

2:49 AM

production run results: Compression for 1 min in liquid cooled mold. 14 pieces per hour at 210 grams per piece HDPE with some LDPE bag shred, and a little amount of PET to alloy for a harder material and a small amount of zinc oxide powder for UV resistance.

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2:50 AM

so far it is a 2 man job to run the machine. Noise is a safety issue.

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@Butte (PP Philippines) at what set temp are you heating for the PET fuse properly? Sounds interesting.

200c

3:10 AM

if too hot I get that wrinkle finish like on the Netherlands bricks...

3:10 AM

too cold it cracks

so right there in the middle and the PET must stretch and flow a bit more. interesting.

right now I extrude into a modified turbo cooker pot. That keeps the slug of plastic hot until we have enough. We use 2 silicone spatulas to grab the blob of hot plastic (industry term is slug) transfer to the compression molder and press

I know I've heard a lot of questions from people wondering if that is possible, but having the practical evidence is nice.

I tried a acrylic HDPE alloy but it does not work

3:13 AM

PET/HDPE alloys are used int he UK for plastic pallets.

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3:13 AM

I have ran up to 50/50 HDPE PET alloy

3:14 AM

Also LDPE HDPE alloys

3:15 AM

the zinc oxide powder seems to make it extrude a bit smoother and makes a more consistant grey color. Otherwise the mixed plastic have a purple red tinge as Coke bottle caps are the most common in the mix.

3:16 AM

I have also tried titanium dioxide pigment. Similar results at a higher cost

Might be time to get some samples...

also the injection molder... wondering if there is a better way... maybe turning sideways the machine and using a screw jack?

3:38 AM

that is 20USD

Guys, I need some knowledge, I am living in an apartment with minimum flats, and I am planning to do some entry level plastic recycling. Have about 600 Sq ft of space. Is there some possibility of making a small scale injection machine..? If yes, how much would it cost and where do I buy parts and how do I build it. I am from Bangalore, India. (edited)

@Deleted User:

climate change models have been corrected as far I heard, downwards, no idea how it´s for you guys but here it´s being weirdly strange with every new season.

Most of South Africa is slowly running out of drinking water. So, yeah... "the plan" is coming along nicely.

My province can desalinate sea water (if we ever get our act together) but I don't know what the land-locked provinces will do. (edited)

Hey, I've just seen the "recycled brick" but i cannot find any information on the properties of the brick. It's really important in architecture since you have to be sure that your building is not gonna break when you finish it. Does anyone know about this? Thanks!

@Butte (PP Philippines) How do you mix these plastic ? A first time in the extruder to mix it and pelletizing it or only flakes mixing then straight to the mold ? Very interesting process though !

@Dante Be more specific about the brick type. There are a few concepts floating around. I'm not aware of any stress testing done on the bricks developed for PP V4. But they were more intended for simple storage sheds and such. Nothing that takes significant structural load. Since the physical and chemical properties of waste plastic can be changed by manufacturers for whatever reason, I imagine getting highly consistent results are also problematic. Nonetheless, South Africa has recently introduced a commercial building brick, made from recycled plastic, that has been certified for commercial construction. No doubt a lot of stuff is added to the mixture. And cement is used, just like with ordinary bricks. (edited)

Hey guys !! I wanted to talk about fumes! I have already read this article (link down bellow) on the website, but i am confused! I was considering about opening a space which gives worshops 2-3 times a week. I want people to contribute in the process. Should i request from every visitor to wear a mask??? I don't think people would like the idea. And i'm not sure after reading the article,if filtering and ventilation will be enough. So, please help me on this!!!!!!! How do you guys handle it? I'm considering to use less dangerous ones: HDPE,LDPE and PP. #fumes https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety#:~:text=Fume%20Dangers,-The%20first%20rule&text=It%20is%20extremely%20harmful%20to,respiratory%20illnesses%20and%20birth%20defects.&text=At%20Precious%20Plastic%2C%20we%20don't%20work%20with%20PVC. (edited)

https://www.lifeproof.com/en-us/search?q=fre&lang=default

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

@Frederik C (ZA) : yeah, something was smelling bad - wasn't sure what kicks in first, food or water crisis, China might depend sooner than expected on African water. Not my expertise - obviously but getting 'ready' for what is to come might be a good idea - we moved to a water rich area (still a delusional thought though)

@Dante I've been looking at different concepts in brick building as well. Conceptos Plasticos is very tight lipped about their additives. Peter Lewis, ByFusion Techology, has a system called ByBlock, but it is industrial scale, but is not for load bearing walls. (Useless). Harvey Lacey has a process that uses types 5, 6 and 7 plastics in combination that makes load bearing blocks and half blocks, but I have not found details, yet.

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Btw, Harvey Lacey's invention is called Ubuntu Blox. Searching now.

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Not really suited for structures over 120 square feet (11M^2) or over more than 1 story. Grrrrr...

not to mention my v2 extrusion machine with a v3 compression screw is only getting 3.1kilos per hour. hardly enough to build a building

Need a real hoss to extrude at building rates.

Does anyone have the 3D CAD files for the shredder? I can make it from the 2D files but hoping someone already has a 3D file they can share. I want to have a go at redesigning it to only use one material thickness and require no welding.

Nevermind they're included in the human shredder. Thanks.

hello, long time lurker.... i was curious which channel i might ask about a device i ran across thought might shred plastic in small quantities. i'm saving to buy a shredder but i don't have the $2000+ (then shipping...) USD at the moment

so i've been looking for less expensive options in the meantime.

@Zellim74 well, maybe the design could be enhanced for better performance under stress. And with a little of engineering to equally transfer the force to all bricks and some beams, it could be substantially stronger

3:55 PM

It would be more expensive, but it would be enough to increase the possibilities of buildings.

I found a few articles that look promising for fillers, but the temperatures are basically at the breakdown points of most plastics and the fillers would be unrecoverable. Used casting sand is another waste product that needs to be removed from the waste stream. The process uses 80% sand 20% plastics for the mix. The bricks are twice as strong as regular red bricks, but they look horrendous. The problem with redesigning the geometry is it ignores the underlying problem. The plastic deforms under the loads a typical family sized structure would produce. Also, the idea of building with legos is just too fun to pass up.

I am going to contact Concepticos Plasticos to see what he says. Maybe we can get a recipe for structural plastics!

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On the note of other topics:

8:44 PM

Can we make waterproof+shockproof cases?

8:44 PM

I use these, and love them:

8:45 PM

Search Results for fre

LifeProof

8:45 PM

clear plastic may be an issue

8:45 PM

main needs is the two "shells" via a mold, an oring, and the lens+screen cover peices

Today in Maastricht was a protest, Media does mention Precious Plastic to be a member of this manifestation, Is this true?

10:22 PM

https://www.1limburg.nl/betoging-tegen-neoliberalisme-maastricht?context=latestarticles

Betoging tegen neoliberalisme in Maastricht

Lees hier meer...

the bigger the group, the more you can show up in...anything

10:23 PM

and human rights and ecological protection are semi-related

Deja MOO, same old BS

10:24 PM

Going political over a plastic recycling project is the wrong way to go

i guess, i think they overlap a bit, but i do agree seperate groups are a good thing

10:25 PM

jack of all trades, master of none etc

So it is ok to destroy public objects

10:26 PM

in the name of a protest not linked to envirment

Today in Maastricht was a protest, Media does mention Precious Plastic to be a member of this manifestation, Is this true?

@TinkerWell nope not us. Maybe Precious Plastic Maastricht? -We never really know what our kids are up to.

OK thanks for that answer, as i totaly disagree with this. It is not correct to MISuse a name like this

10:29 PM

I am totaly PRO recycling and do not agree with politics BUT i do think it is in the best intrest of this organisation to not get involved with rioters

guess we need a pr "damage control" team at this level lol

@ Eric Lotze Sad but true

hold up why are we merging stuff?

We got to many channels. Various users mentioned this is overwhelming and confusing. These channels have a lot of overlap in content and could be stronger together.

i guess, if they overlap organization can be a mess, but discord DOES have a good search engine

12:21 AM

anywho name them:

12:22 AM

automated plastic sorting

12:22 AM

and

12:22 AM

showcase (or show and tell)

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

I actually think these channels are messy and should be organized, but I think there should be a news channel or something like that other than #just-chatting

@Lazy_Turtle What kind of news?

@CitSciWorkshop Anything related to us?

Oh I was asking what kind of news you'd like to see in a news channel

9:22 AM

current events and commentary could be really productive

9:22 AM

how is Plastic Rise forming?

Didn't think about that

9:22 AM

how is Plastic Rise forming?

Just gathering funds, it's going well:)

Awesome!

Yeah we are doing some marketing stuff on twitter

9:24 AM

30 followers in one week, not bad.

not at all. Things grow best organically, and you'll see the logarithm is in your favor.

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Actually I'm not so active in this server anymore, busy because my school has started... I will help with translations when I have time

Do your best! Energy and Time are in short supply for everyone.

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Oh I forgot about this. How about country reaction roles? It's difficult to find where people because there is no way to ping people. I think using this would connect PPers tighter. What do you think? @CitSciWorkshop I wanna ping @japan one day

12:20 PM

Also bots

Realistically, if people don't read announcements in the country channel, they won't respond to pings, either. You can't force people to participate. That's how it is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also: Creating and managing 188+ roles.

No, thanks.

12:26 PM

Discord probably has a role number limit too. I'm guessing 100.

hmmm then at least @asia or @europe?

12:28 PM

@Frederik C (ZA)

People get upset to get pinged for random stuff that doesn't apply to everyone, or them specifically. It should be used sparingly. That means only Admins would have permission to use the ping, anyway.

@Frederik C (ZA) Yeah, but pinging {@}machine shop and @asia machine shop is different, isn't it?

12:32 PM

I think the pros outweigh

There are some other changes already planned, you will know about it quite soon @Lazy_Turtle :)

Oh really?

12:34 PM

That's great

pinging {@}machine shop and @asia machine shop is different, isn't it? Only slightly different. I'm pretty sure we'll never have such a system.

Anyway, I'm excited about the update

Hello everyone, my Name is Thorsten and i am based in Saarbrücken (Germany), there i am currently working on my Bachelor's degree in product design. I would like to refine the process of casting aluminum molds using 3D printed templates.

6:26 PM

Because of this i wanted to ask if it would be okay to poast a little survey i prepared.

Sounds wonderful!

6:26 PM

Are you pursuing greensand, plaster, coating based investment casting, or what?

At the moment i am mostly thinking about using sand because the sand can be reused and from my experience it is possibly to achieve great detail.

greensand is great in my opinion, investment casting is only needed for larger runs/time or space saving

6:30 PM

i was doing basic research/documentation here:

6:30 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/3D_Printed_Part_to_Metal_Part_Workflows

3D Printed Part to Metal Part Workflows

Oh very cool, thank you. Also seems like a good place to contibute my findings.

definetly!

6:35 PM

do you want an explanation on what OSE is, or do you understand what you want to know?

I already heard about the project but i didn't know about the wiki.

ah, the wiki is where all the "real work" happens

6:39 PM

it has a 90's tech search engine, so it can be CLUNKY at times, i can be a "sherpa" of sorts if need be

6:39 PM

also if you want an account i can ping marcin to speed that up, basically just a button click

6:40 PM

Also this is a partial "table of contents" i made:

6:40 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Construction_Sets

Construction Sets

an account would be nice, but it doesn't need to be super quick

6:45 PM

i will just use the form on the site

the forum? or the "make account" prompt?

This one: https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Special:RequestAccount

Special:RequestAccount

yeah that's it

6:52 PM

the forum is VERY dead, so i was making sure you weren't using that lol

6:52 PM

you want the discord channel and/or slack channel?

a discord channel could become handy, thank you

Here is the link:

6:56 PM

https://discord.gg/ZvaRmj

Thanks!

@Thorsten You can repost your survey here.

@Frederik C (ZA) thanks for the information Hello everyone, my Name is Thorsten and I am based in Saarbrücken (Germany), where I am currently working on my Bachelor's degree in product design. I would like to look into the process of casting aluminum molds using 3D printed templates. This process should make the mould more affordable and use technologies that are easily accessible. Because of this I would love to learn more about your use of molds and what wishes you would have for future molds. Thank you very much for taking the time! Here is the link to the form:https://forms.gle/mi74TV8Txyb4tE9z7

How would you like your molds?

Hello everyone, my Name is Thorsten and I am based in Saarbrücken (Germany), where I am currently working on my Bachelor's degree in product design. I would like to look into the process of casting aluminum molds using 3D printed templates. This process should make the mould ...

i think being able to make complex accurate molds for egg crates/bakery trays would be a HUGE plus

9:42 PM

two good "deliverables" in my opinion

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Has anyone stamped their plastic after cold? Ive seen on the how to that you can stamp plastic products with a stamp and a press, im wondering if it works?

7:59 AM

Also, has anyone created a code for the precious plastic recycled plastic? It would be cool, instead of stamping recycled plastic, stamping a new number or code

Hey Bruna, It works quite well and is very quick!

8:02 AM

However if you are able to get a code placed into your mould, thats nicer and faster

8:04 AM

As for the custom code. The standard codes ensure universal recycling no matter what country you are in. If a Precious Plastic code was developed, standard industries would have to discard our items as they would maybe consider them unlabled....unless you mean a stamp that uses the same number but says "Recycled using PP machines?"

I think Precious Plastic Logo is enough for branding

Hi Rory, thanks for you answer! I am working with simple moulds atm, i have no idea who could make one mould with the code engraved into it, but that would be nice!! Yes that makes sense, i was thinking of instead of having it written recycled using pp machines, having a code for that. But it would be hard for people to understand what that code means

Instead of printing and casting, look at using a fiber laser marker. 50 watts will do the trick. 30 watts will work but very very slow

@Thorsten

€52,750 for every starter kit Jesus Christ

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I think the Starter Kits are a good idea. It’s not going to be for everyone but at least it’s a more complete package with a more direct product outcome. If there’s ever a North American equivalent or specifically in Canada I’d be interested in the Brick Starter Kit.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabnd we're live! I am now online for the day, feel free to ping (@) me

hello from Paraguay...

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i think that in Paraguay we just have big companys working on this... but i will like to open small places to give some work to poor people.

Hola soy miembro nuevo desde Ecuador America del sur ..busco ayuda soy electromecánico y líder barrial quiero construir la trituradora requiero ayuda..

maybe here in Precious Plastic someone can help

Hi I'm from Paraguay too, admins, we need a channel

@VECINOS PET 7 Hola, esta es una plataforma mundial, utiliza un traductor al inglés para que la gente pueda entender lo que dices :) Hello, this is a worldwide platform, please use a translator into english so that people can understand what you say :)

Helo all

heo

I am the new guy from Laredo, the border with US and MEXICO

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welcome

thank you! very exited to be here and start doing my part

8:00 PM

we are a little border city, with a lot of waste, I want to start a center here in Nuevo Laredo and have looked at all the videos

8:00 PM

seems a lot of work, but there are a lot of people here that have no idea where to start, but want to do something

Hello, I am from South America, from Ecuador I am Electromechanical and neighborhood leader, I am interested in the pet project. I require help to build the machinery, the crusher and the injector. thousand thanks ..

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@VECINOS PET 7 Also do check out Open Source Ecology:

8:57 PM

Basically a group dedicated to making all the open source hardware needed to build/run a small town/farm. Complex to explain so perhaps watch the ted talk and check it out? Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page

8:57 PM

@VECINOS PET 7 what have you worked on in the past?

e works designing and building metalworking machines for 30 years. ing Mechanics

any work with induction/arc furnaces + continous casting, or more so on the cnc/saw side?

Design and construction of machines for lamination, cutting, casting, crushing on lathe, CNC spawn and special welds

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sound like one HELL of an SME then, great to have you here!

9:13 PM

A mostly printed CNC mill that can do aluminium, if a HUGE benefit to mold making for PP. Also OSE is in the EARLY phases of industrial CNC mill design. So check those projects out i guess?

want to be part of the group, I was born to build and I have given life to machines by contributing pieces that do not exist. I am Electromechanical from school and currently I have knowledge of mechatronics

Hi, I'm Till from Hamburg, Germany. I am member of the Clean Ocean Project, an NGO based on Fuerteventura. We are working towards getting funding from EU/UN for a waste reduction / plastic recycling project in Northern Africa. I think I have fairly good knowledge in plastics in general, but could really need some help regarding feasibility of PreciousPlastic Tools for PET and LDPE (and lots of other topics as well). If anyone would like to discuss, i'd be super grateful.

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Check the contacts in the channels and on the map for the countries you aim to work in. If you're at home at the moment, reach out in the #deleted-channel channel.

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ELLO I am from ECUADOR AND I SEEK SUPPORT FROM ANY NGO. FOR A PET PROJECT IN AN ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM A PROFETIONAL WITH 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN ELECTROMECHANICS,

@VECINOS PET 7 pet as in the plastic, or as in a small personal "pet project"

Can anyone give the diagram of electrical parts for injection molding machine

9:28 PM

Please

i'll dig for it, we REALLY need to put this in a more accesible spoy lol

9:30 PM

only found this so far:

9:30 PM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/injection

Bowls out of bread tags: How Brad Scott turns unwanted plastic into...

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

I'm trying to work out why people are not finding the download kits on the website.

I have dwld kits bt I don't knw abt electric parts

Hi, I'm Till from Hamburg, Germany. I am member of the Clean Ocean Project, an NGO based on Fuerteventura. We are working towards getting funding from EU/UN for a waste reduction / plastic recycling project in Northern Africa. I think I have fairly good knowledge in plastics in general, but could really need some help regarding feasibility of PreciousPlastic Tools for PET and LDPE (and lots of other topics as well). If anyone would like to discuss, i'd be super grateful.

@Till @davehakkens has done some stuff in Africa. There are articles on the main precious plastic news site. Both the good and bad was told. People issues will be your biggest challenge, not equipment.

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ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

@Till @davehakkens has done some stuff in Africa. There are articles on the main precious plastic news site. Both the good and bad was told. People issues will be your biggest challenge, not equipment.

@Butte (PP Philippines) I can't find that article on the page, can you point me to it, please? I found one on @davehakkens personal website about research in Ghana though, is that the one you refer to?

Hi i'm Patrick from Precious Plastics Lancaster. We are currently looking at improving our sheet moulds for the sheetpress. Does anyone here have any good designs that they have used for the mould? Thanks

@PatrickWilkinson extruding hot into a heated chamber and then liquid cooled cold press has gotten the best results for me. we are getting pressed items of 200 grams cooled and ready to demold in about 1 minute.

@KerberosPy See #deleted-channel

Hi guys, I have the spare parts to build the shredding box, all laser cut and ready for milling and with hex shaft, I would like to sell them, as with the current climate I can no longer afford to get things set up

8:12 PM

pm me if interested

Hi there. My name is Alberto. I am project manager for CC&A Studio, an arquitecture and interior design firm located in Panama Republic, Central America. My wife Karen is design director for the firm and we have both always been focused into green design and bio climatic architecture. We are now very focused on incorporating recycled materials into our furniture designs and interior design products. We are now very focused on recycling. We are thrilled with the Precious Plastic initiative. We are focused on purchasing recycled plastic sheets (panels) and in the long run, being able to aid in the recycling effort by producing the sheets locally to help with our local plastic waste. Recycling initiatives are very small in our country and we ourselves havent done much in that sense (besides esporadic beach cleaning and similar initiatives). We would like to get much more involved and would appreciate your guidance into becomming a member of your community. Thank you all.

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Hello - We're in Oregon. We're just starting up and it's a bit daunting to try to figure out how to ensure safety from infection. Fortunately it's just us - my husband and I - starting up our recycling collection through end-product, so no other employees to be concerned about - yet.

If there are any tips on staying safe from illness, especially from collection and handling up to the heating point, we would appreciate hearing them.

Any recommendations on cleaning solutions? We have a good idea, but it would be nice to know what others are using and why, or why not?

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Whats your good idea?

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Anyone know free CAD programs for 3d printing? I want to use it to make plans for toys or knickknacks. (edited)

maybe you could use FreeCAD or Sketchup

1:53 AM

but it's way too basic

use freecad and/or onshape

you could use a demo license of Fusion360 aswell, they last a lot

but non-os and will get you to pay eventually lol

1:54 AM

my school got me hooked on autodesk

1:54 AM

then no liscence post educational, and for a small fee...

SolidWorks it's the best software i've tested, personally

True. I want to use Autodesk 360 but I don't know much about cad software. So looking for a free introduction program to help familiarize myself with it.

Hola a todos!! Saludos desde Guatemala! Hace dos meses empezamos a diseñar un protector facial con la maquina de inyección y despues de mucho trabajo hoy ya tenemos casi todo listo. Alguien podria ayudarme con la configuracion de los PID REX-C100?

@0xjuca Habla en inglés, por favor. Es un servidor internacional.// Speak in english, please. It's an international server.

Hi everyone!! Greetings from Guatemala. Since two months we start to work on a face shield for the injection machine, after a lot of work today we're almost already. Somebody can help me to configure the pid controller REX-C100

@0xjuca Gracias! // Thanks you!

Hey guys first timer

4:27 PM

Wanted to know if anyone is able to help design a concept

What concept? @Matteo I can't design tho

I'm able to design. What do you need? @Matteo

Hello all, from Nuevo Laredo Mexico

Hello all

3:34 AM

Can I ask a question here?

yeah

Hi I just wacthed a video on making plastic bags into more user friendly bags, backpacks etc, my quesstion is, does the plastic give off any toxic gas etc when it is ironed?

3:38 AM

Or am I in the wrong place?

it depends

3:40 AM

on what kind of plastic you use, temperatures and exposition

Oh Okay yes that makes sense

do you have any idea of what kind of plastic are you dealing with?

I work with disadvantaged group and thought that may be a good place to start, but I know someone will question the safety aspect

3:42 AM

No, I am not even at that point yet

if you don't know what are you really doing, always consider some safety features

I just thought it was a great idea, we currently make bags out of used fabric, but it is very hard to get

yeah, it is!

3:44 AM

but consider using some kind of air filtration devices and ventilation on workspaces

3:44 AM

and eye protection

I am in Australia and my state doesn't allow the plastic shopping bags any more, so I am not sure what product I would be using

some gloves to prevent burns are handy aswell

Yeah thanks we would have those already, but would look at air extraction for sure

check the law, because in some places it's not legal to commercialize them, but it's perfectly legal to use them for different purposes (edited)

No, we donate our bags back to the community

3:48 AM

Thanks for the advice. I am pretty happy that I found this place, cheers!

np

Hi I just wacthed a video on making plastic bags into more user friendly bags, backpacks etc, my quesstion is, does the plastic give off any toxic gas etc when it is ironed?

@Heybarty Be careful with the gas, is very toxic, when we work with plastic in our workspace is obligated to use gas protection and heat gloves

thanks for that, I thought it would be, just the guy doing the ironing wasn't wearing a respirator. Thanks again.

This is sensational news ABC News: Brad Scott's Precious Plastic creations are turning heads, as he turns trash into homewares. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-26/nescafe-comes-calling-brad-scott-plastic-recycled-homewares/12380828

Brad Scott knows of only 10 other businesses in Australia doing what he's doing — making plastic that would otherwise go to landfill into beautiful and useful objects. Why aren't more interested businesses taking the leap?

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Hey hey anyone from Hong Kong?

If you have an old forum account, maybe. No other announcements here yet. We assume newcomers have all checked their local map. https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/599259846767935519/639435562322755585

8:32 PM

Might be some links to follow in the comments, there. I spotted a HK Facebook group, for instance. https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/hi-from-hong-kong/

@David EC @Deleted User Okay... Here are some concepts for waterway, harbour and beach cleaning systems. Low-tech and high tech. Semi-automated to automated and just plain nets. And vehicles. I was actually thinking of the Seabin. It's not as low-tech as I thought. It actually uses an electric pump. Also buoy-nets that don't go down very deep, won't catch that much fish. And the Harbour Skimmer apparently catches fish safely. (But might be hard to scale up.) Bottomline: 1) I'm not endorsing any method or any of these companies. I'm just pointing to concepts. 2) As always, this is just a drop in the ocean in terms of what ends up in the sea. But, it might be a small part of a larger solution. The Plastic Crisis is huge. We all know this. Drain sock https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3kISpelek_4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faw8jntZy9I Seabin https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ySp7HKD7jaw Water Goat https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAJFwTnEN0k Solar water wheel https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RkQbcrzyAeE Cleantec water weed collector & beach cleaner https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkG4A4EU80 4ocean Mobile Skimmer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=stZcW-b8lT0 4ocean Harbour Skimmer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=adquNlWtmyk (edited)

@David EC @Deleted User Okay... Here are some concepts for waterway, harbour and beach cleaning systems. Low-tech and high tech. Semi-automated to automated and just plain nets. And vehicles. I was actually thinking of the Seabin. It's not as low-tech as I thought. It actually uses an electric pump. Also buoy-nets that don't go down very deep, won't catch that much fish. And the Harbour Skimmer apparently catches fish safely. (But might be hard to scale up.) Bottomline: 1) I'm not endorsing any method or any of these companies. I'm just pointing to concepts. 2) As always, this is just a drop in the ocean in terms of what ends up in the sea. But, it might be a small part of a larger solution. The Plastic Crisis is huge. We all know this. Drain sock https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3kISpelek_4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faw8jntZy9I Seabin https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ySp7HKD7jaw Water Goat https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAJFwTnEN0k Solar water wheel https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RkQbcrzyAeE Cleantec water weed collector & beach cleaner https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkG4A4EU80 4ocean Mobile Skimmer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=stZcW-b8lT0 4ocean Harbour Skimmer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=adquNlWtmyk

@Frederik C (ZA) The drain idea is good, I like it, no impact, clean water stream

12:25 PM

The water goat is good for some rivers, those with no boats, or parts of a river where the are no transit

12:26 PM

Do you know how do they clean it up after that?

Hey guys ! thanks a lot for all of this links

My association works with parteners using drain socks. It's awesome, simple and very powerful for water evacuation in cities. But with rivers and fish, as you can imagine, it's very dangerous. My favorite option is the watergoat and you can cut it in two part to keep the boats moving. Look at this (beautiful ahah) draw :

12:34 PM

12:35 PM

Then you have to add a collector at the end of the last watergoat

The seabin is okay, but isn't it too small for the cost?

I think that seabins are useful in harbour. In rivers and cost, I'm not sure

12:37 PM

All of the technics solution (with solar panels for example) are really great, sincerly! But I'm sure that this project is possible only with low-tech solutions. And (IN MY OPINION), a simple solution is always the best

it's why I would like to think without electronic device.

An other thing to consider is if it is legal or how to make it legal, in each country

Yes you right !

The solar water wheel, they say it is moved by the water

so why ?

The sistem is mecanic then

Oh yeah !

12:49 PM

So possible

12:49 PM

Can we imagine to create the same thing, smaller ?

12:51 PM

Pump makes sense and without any battery, it's "almost simple" ahah

@David EC @Deleted User Okay... Here are some concepts for waterway, harbour and beach cleaning systems. Low-tech and high tech. Semi-automated to automated and just plain nets. And vehicles. I was actually thinking of the Seabin. It's not as low-tech as I thought. It actually uses an electric pump. Also buoy-nets that don't go down very deep, won't catch that much fish. And the Harbour Skimmer apparently catches fish safely. (But might be hard to scale up.) Bottomline: 1) I'm not endorsing any method or any of these companies. I'm just pointing to concepts. 2) As always, this is just a drop in the ocean in terms of what ends up in the sea. But, it might be a small part of a larger solution. The Plastic Crisis is huge. We all know this. Drain sock https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3kISpelek_4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faw8jntZy9I Seabin https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ySp7HKD7jaw Water Goat https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAJFwTnEN0k Solar water wheel https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RkQbcrzyAeE Cleantec water weed collector & beach cleaner https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkG4A4EU80 4ocean Mobile Skimmer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=stZcW-b8lT0 4ocean Harbour Skimmer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=adquNlWtmyk

@Frederik C (ZA) All the links have good ideas, thank you

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12:54 PM

It would be neccesary to consider each river for size I'd say

12:55 PM

Like, how much trash is in it? At what speed does the water flow?...

12:55 PM

But it could be done some how

12:55 PM

well, I think that

great ! about how mush trash, I've some answer

Maybe then it's not doable

as every project :p (edited)

1:01 PM

River plastic emissions to the world’s oceans (map by OceanCleanUp) https://theoceancleanup.com/sources/ The results come from a scientist article. It's computed with micro-plastic concentration

So, for every river, you can read an approximation of macro-plastic litter moving. It's a beginning to understand the maximum value we have to catch in every river per year

River Plastic Pollution Sources

Rivers are a major source of plastic waste into the oceans. We estimate that over 1000 rivers are accountable for 80% of global annual emissions which range between 0.8 – 2.7 million metric tons per year, with small urban rivers among the most polluting. Learn more in this int...

All the other rivers around are at 100-1,000

1:09 PM

My nearest river 4,600

1:09 PM

What does that mean, kg per year?

This is "more informations" about a big red point which is written 16,649,000kg

1:13 PM

I imagine that you can have the same reasoning with your number

How do you see that?

1:31 PM

With that map, I find it interesting to watch a nearby river with a high number, to take a look of the trash it carryies, where is it optimal to put something...

1:32 PM

Do you know anything about law? How to find how to make it legal or something

You can probably tell from the map that Southern African rivers are less of a problem in terms of plastic (supposedly). That's not surprising, though. It's a water-scarce region and yearly rainfall is dwindling to record lows. Few of our rivers are traversable. My local river barely trickles into the sea. It's about shin-deep to walk through the river mouth. Subsequently, boat traffic is mostly a non-issue for us. But I'm guessing the storm drains should be looked at.

Nonetheless, people have told me about floating garbage patches not far up the South Coast. And I've noticed increased trash accumulation on my beach after two and half months of C19 lockdown. Fishing line / fishing net clumps, which I haven't seen before. The municipal cleaners probably usually deals with that. Those are people who are paid by the city to clean beaches under their jurisdiction.

How do you see that?

@David EC you have to click on the big red point

9:06 PM

unfortunately, it works only with big pollutions

9:07 PM

Yes there are a lot of problem like law and accumulation areas for example. there are a lot of scientist research about plastic litter modelisation depending of weather, currents, etc. You can search with Google Scholar

Is the Map Pin Working for adding my location and project, in the map. I did have it located there once, yet I no longer see anyone on my area now either???

Yes there are a lot of problem like law and accumulation areas for example. there are a lot of scientist research about plastic litter modelisation depending of weather, currents, etc. You can search with Google Scholar

@Deleted User What do you mean with accumulation areas? (edited)

11:33 PM

I didn't know about google scholar, thank you

@Frederik C (ZA) how many kg of plastic has your local river according to the map?

How can I get added to the #deleted-channel Forum to leave comments or get assistance?

Try choosing a role in #🖐start-here. Otherwise it's some other configuration setting.

Usually works that way

@David EC I couldn't view the map in my current mobile browser. I'll try again, after upgrading. I'm just busy researching a lot of stuff first.

Has anyone tried alternative methods of turning a shredder that doesn't require power? (edited)

I saw lot of shredders with no electricity.

2:50 PM

Instead it can’t produce lot of power to shred plastics-

2:50 PM

Actually @e1ise.v try to ask another person

I was pondering on a powerless shredder but i think you will need a ratchet crank!

I didn't know about google scholar, thank you

@David EC And if you want to download a paper for free, you can use SciHub or an other alternative. It's ILLEGAL but if you think that science should be free and open for all, feel free to use it

(edited)

@Uplifted... . YouTube has lots of videos to help you learn auto desk 360

Hello all, I wanna share a demo vid of our Filagain project, an upcoming eCommerce platform that sells 3D print filaments from various brands with recycling feature that lets users exchange their 3D printed plastic waste into cash balance that can be used to purchase new filaments again, while we process the collected 3D print waste into pure plastic pellets/granules. We are looking to beta-test the idea in a few weeks (Indonesia only), more info on our website http://filagain.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LUl_FBmgm0

Filagain

Filagain Demo Video (English)

Home | Filagain

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Is there PP member who is below 19?

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@dy$ord3Rx I know that, but I learn more from actually doing than watching.

10:34 PM

I'd rather not simply sit around and watch the screen, I'd prefer to practice along with the video. But the program still costs a sub fee of which I'm not sure I can afford.

10:34 PM

That's the issue.

Hi everyone my first post on here but I was wondering if there was anyone in the north of England that was sorting , cleaning , shredding that I could work with on my new venture is to make brushes and razors from 100% recycled plastic? Anyway any pointers would be great even if just for a chat. I may even start my own but figured it best to use the community as a first port of call

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Hello all! I'm a complete newcomer with PP movement. In my day job I am a professional video game artist, and of late I have been 3D printing my creations. Some time last week I wondered about the possibility of using recycled materials rather than the nasty resin. After a walk around with the pooch, I spotted loads of plastic in the undergrowth and it was at this moment I knew that I wanted to do something about it. Then I found the Precious Plastic site and I'm pretty eager, but honestly I have no idea where to start. Ideally, I'd love to get hands on and get my 3D modelling / design skills down somewhere and also like to get fully onboard with the whole thing, however jumping ship from my day job is kind of daunting. Has anyone dropped everything and gone right into full time design / making? Have people had luck with government investment into these sorts of things? I am UK based, 30-something and have years and years of 3D creation, should anyone want a chat. GP

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Resin is odd, fdm filament is semi-easy

9:11 PM

@gpb89 check out OSE's work on FDM filament making: https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder

I w i l l c h a r y o u i n t o t e r r a p r e t a (...

9:12 PM

ALSO plotting some sort of "rust" / minecraft / factorio / satisfactory esque game if you are intrested (just conceptual dev, i'm no game dev lol)

9:13 PM

ALSO

9:13 PM

I made a dumb out of context video edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SElQ12y6Uc the original stream is legit good need to make an edit of the "grass is stupid" rant too

EDVT

Any people here chemists

1:04 AM

I've been wondering about SLA resins, but photopolymers seem like magic to me, and most don't state ingredients/mixes unlike FDM filament (edited)

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Have anybody ever had a successful case by installing a donation box directly in a nearby community? (Local town / neighborhood)

⏳ (edited)

8:24 AM

8:25 AM

️ Example of Donation box!

@Vudv Donation for what? If you're aiming to get donation for running some kind or recycling program, you'd be better off running a gofundme or similar crowdfunding page rather than a donation box. Those usually reserved for care/social program and run by either govt or non-profit organization.

Our project is basically environmental organization that is formed with teens who is aiming to educate plastic issues and resolutions. And developing various platform like App or website. Also, we’re already using GoFundMe but it wasn’t effective as our thought. So trying to move on real community near my house. So I was getting some advices for this.

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I will just try to install at our school space & Our garage

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It won’t be a big problem, I hope this works.

We were too young for it

Hi All

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I am new to the forum

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I am building an extrusion machine (small). Can anyone help me with the design?

Example of Donation box! Oh, man... that will be all gone in the first day in high crime countries.

It won’t be a big problem, I hope this works.

@Vudv Instead of asking for money you can also ask for plasticbottles which has a deposit on them! Depends if your country has a system which gives back money for the bottles you collect. But it's a great way to, clean up the plastic and earn money.

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Hi everyone! My name is Alejo Garcia and I’m from Leonardo Da Vinci school, in Argentina. Our school project is to build the 3 basic machines from precious plastic and we were wondering if you can give us any help, telling us what you would have wanted to know when you were building them, or anything you think it’s important to know! So please, if you want to help, write me a direct message, or e-mail me at alejogarcia1207@gmail.com Thanks so much to all of you, and lets keep making the world better!

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Hi, my name is Aleesha, from The Short Circuits, a FIRST Tech Challenge group based in West Windsor, NJ. I am so inspired by the creativity and innovation that has been happening in Precious Plastic, you guys are so inspiring. My robotics team loves building, well, robots

and learning as much as we can about the world. We were wondering if we could reach out to any of you creators in Precious Plastic to present how we use robotics to learn and become better, and understand more about how Precious Plastic makers use technology to solve a very serious problem. The information that we learn from this will go to a free engineering class that my teammates and I designed for minority and undeserved communities to help more children have STEM literacy. I created a google form for you all to fill out, in case you are interested in helping us out(there is more info provided there). Thanks for doing so much!

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Hello, nice to meet you

Thank you

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Anyone here to help me with my project?

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I'm working to redesign a shredder machine

Hey everyone my name is Dmitriy Chumachenko. I live in the Bronx and have recently purchased and am currently assembling a Precious Plastics shredder and a Filabot extruder. Armed with a Modix 120 printer and a possible vacuum oven for drying (still researching), my intent is to make and sell recycled as well as exotic polymers in filament form and tie them into a business model that uses this plastic to manufacture and sell consumer products. I am incorporated as Advanced Cats, LLC as a research and development company, however is very much in its infancy of execution. I operate out of my garage and have room for a more robust setup. I dabble with electronics and am working with wireless power to power a pocket pc and a fan-filled chassis (one of the products I am able to offer at this time). I also have Fusion 360 design experience. I live near a school, surrounded by apartment complexes and a sizable strip of shops, offering me a smorgasbord of plastic, as well as a workforce of folks already collecting cans and bottles that seem to do it as a primary means of money. The goal is to monetize this process in such a way so they can dedicate their efforts to collecting for the Precious Plastic initiative and make more money than they are potentially making now recycling at the local supermarket. The surrounding apartments offer a truly unique crowd sourcing opportunity in terms of cleaning. If everyone cleaned their plastic at home before submitting it, the overhead for cleaning stations and pre-processing will be significantly lower. I welcome feedback, assistance and anything else that could help. I am very passionate about helping solve this recycling issue and want to explore a sustainable business model to get this accomplished. I am also able to offer storage for any potential equipment any of you suppliers who want to expand or have faster delivery times in the East Coast. Thank you.

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Is there Graphic Designer who can remodel our logo?

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Hi there

introducing myself: I have founded a 3D print service company some years ago in Delft NL and currently have over 30 printers. I use mostly PLA as material. Since we also have waste material, which I refuse to throw away, we looked in to possibilities of recycling and we got familiar with Precious plastics. When the PP HQ moved, we took over a larger pizza oven without press. For PLA its not necessary to have a press. We have made several product with it, and now going to try sell the stools we made. If anybody is interested in what the possibilities are with 3d printing (fdm/sla/fgf) just shoot a message, we re happy to help;) (edited)

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how does discord work? if i ask a question, how do i receive my aswer? do i get one of these little red notification dots beside my name at the bottom left of the screen? or........? i asked a quation weeks ago and either missed the reply.... or didnt get one ::( im hoping its the later

@Poly Pearl You should see "red dot" notifications for @mentions or "pings" like this one. You can search the chat history for your own posts, to see if there was an answer, shorlty after your question. Generally, people will ping you if there has been some time lag after your question. You can see any pings directed at you on your "recent mentions" menu. ("@" symbol, lower left, on the channel drawer.)

Since the server is international, everybody is in different time zones, so questions can get lost as the chat progresses. That's why it usually helps to have more than one general chat. It could just be that no-one had a good answer. Or the folks with the necessary technical knowledge didn't see it. It happens, depending on how a server is structured. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Apps like Riot actually lists everyone who has seen it, under each message, which is useful. I doubt we'll ever get that functionality in Discord.

Recent Mentions can be buggy on mobile sometimes. An alternative is regular chat history search, using mentions: [your_username] as a filter.

thank you for your response @Frederik C (ZA) ! I did see this ping from you. excellent, so maybe my first question just got missed. i'll try asking again

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Is there Graphic Designer who can remodel our logo?

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@Vudv what do you need? We could help with a basic one.

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I already got logo like this but

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We’re trying to make new one.

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We want to remodel this drawing as our logo

have it with in the PP logo instead of the plastic flag??

Basically, our second custom logo

Who made your first one? Who owns the fishing rod image? Need to be wary of copyright.

Ryoma and I made the first PP logo

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And Ryoma made second logo as blueprint

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I just..need logo designer

It should be too hard to combine them if you made them both??

Hmmm I will try to think again

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Thanks for your advice!!

has anyone here started using metal detectors for ensuring that you do not shred metal? With our increasing production, finding a need to catch all the metal bottle caps better. I shredded a metal bottle cap the other day in the machine.

Also looking for a better way to dry our washed plastic. thinking about a sort of tumbler dryer and scavaging the waste heat from the dust collection or solar hot air colleciton. Pic of metal detector for refrence. they look to be around 15-20usd.

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Also we are finding the need to get more pigments for the plastic. I tried activated charcoal powder but in addition to being expensive, it was not fine enough. Graphite works awesome, but too expensive for production use. Maybe a diy ball mill? or rock tumbler with charcoal? We can get sustainable produced charcoal from coconut husk in the market localy.

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lastly, is anyone else here doing solar for their shop power? We are working towards that as budget allows. the more things grow, it is becoming apparent that the power supply we have is not enough. We are barely able to pull 30 amps, which means that we can shred, but not mold at the same time. Also electric kwh prices locally are 20cents USD

Who made your first one? Who owns the fishing rod image? Need to be wary of copyright.

@NoMorePlastic No worries, I made on Canva

hei guys! glad to be part of this grup! can you recomand me an extrudar for beams production. i want to make plastic planks. please help me to figure it out what exactly i need to make this:D

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some outdoor furniture stuff

Hello everyone.. nice to join in this group. Let me introduce my self. I'm Falih (Volvox Art) from indonesia (Manado, North Sulawesi). I really intersting for plastic recylcle, and i'm newbie in this part, please help me to know more. Thanks

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@Butte (PP Philippines) Can't you get an electro magnet salvaged from an old motor? If it is only cap sized, they should be easy to catch? We are partially solar at the workshop but not on the machines yet. I understood that VSC could be powered direct in DC. I find it quite interesting as it removes the need of inverters that are pricy and get you a 30% energy loss. I know you are not fan of these controllers but that is quite interesting I believe? Regarding the electricity price it is not better here, at contrary. For the solar power, you have to get a good control unit and maybe some current conditioner? The usual solution is to use batteries as buffers, even if they are not very good they should do. You might still have overloads and need to disperse it with something (could be a fan to cool your panels for example). If you want to use the charge of the battery you can try also to recondition old Li-ion and make your own battery pack. Takes some time but is probably a cheap alternative to ready-made solutions.

Hello. Hope everyone is ok. My name is Nicolás Argentino, from Argentina. Currently i am trying to buil the extruder pro (V4). But i have questions redarding the motor. I quote, from your web page the following: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/extrusionprobuild "We recommend to use motor output torque in the range of 80-120 Nm, in which 120 Nm is the recommended Max. output torque value and 80 Nm the minimum value. We recommend to use a motor with a max. power output of 3 kW Which corresponds to a maximum (Output shaft) speed of 220 - 320 RPM (assuming 90% gearbox and motor efficiency). We recommend to avoid worm-type gearboxes due to their low efficiency." After reading this, I go to the bazar, to look for the proper motor for the extrusion pro, taking in consideration the recommendations quoted. So i ve decided to look for the full built machine, and in the specifications of the machine i have found the following. Quoted from here: "https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/extruder-pro/extruder-pro-fully-built/extrusion-machine-pro/" Motor-3HP( Single Phase & Three Phase Available) (Gear Box Made Of Aluminium Casted Having Machined Worm Gear) So, after this, my questions are the following: -Should I look for a 3 kW motor or a 3 Hp motor? -Is it a worm-type gear box the one i should buy or not?

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Hi I am Davies Favour from Nigeria.

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Hi I m from india

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I want design of injection machine

hi, Forget the 3 phase if you are running HDPE. You only need belt and pulleys to lower the rpm to around 200 rpm.

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also we find that the v3 screw need a very close fit to the barrel. slide fit, not wiggle. Too loose it is not effecient. We used steel shafting and bore on the lathe. local cost was 60usd for 2 foot extrusion barrel.

hi we are looking at joining the precious plastic group and were wondering about a few thing

total beginner here. My wife and I are going to attempt to melt HDPE later today and use with the phone stand mold we purchased from the bazar. We'll post some notes here. Not sure it will qualify for "showcase" - I have very limited expectations since this is our first try.

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Hello everyone! My name is Andrea, Guatemalan girl living in Berlin

I would like to get to know the machines a bit better and experiment a bit with some designs I have in mind to bring the amazing kits developed by this community to other communities in Latin America.

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Re: Frequently asked questions on machine blueprints: I'll try to assemble all download kit links in one FAQ post... or something.

I absolutely need to talk to Dave. How can I join him? Please answer me.

Pretty sure he is busy, what do you want to talk about???

Project Ara

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We must unite to get google back on track

Our HDPE experiment wasn’t too successful. We melted too much material and ended up overfilling the mold. We will melt it down tomorrow and try again.

@Elliot_Letourno Yeah- but I think the team is focusing on other things like Project Kamp

@Elliot_Letourno 1) I assume you saw Dave's final Phoneblocks video update. He probably has nothing to add. 2) Since it's not (directly) Precious Plastic related, rather go through the official e-mail on the website.

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What happend to Phonebloks? –5 years later

Hi I am from Brunei Darussalam in South East Asia. Im trying to find local community centres around south east asia especially Borneo Island. Is there a website to track everyone in the world community?

Yep community.preciousplastic.com/map

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[FAQ] [Map] [Community]

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@bagong1109 You can request a channel for Brunei. We haven't had a request yet.

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@Lazy_Turtle I'll write a "Are there people near me?" FAQ. That includes checking the map. Let me just refresh my memory on what we've got.

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@Lazy_Turtle thank you it is helpful. It seems borneo have not started.

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@Frederik C (ZA) yes please

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@Frederik C (ZA) that would be fabulous especially newbies like me.

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Hi

I love your shredders! We are a small food waste composting social enterprise and need a shedder for oranges, banana skins, avocado seeds, coffee cups, and corn cobs etc… Your pre made - stainless steel shredder options look just perfect for what we need. Have you had any experience in our area? We are in New Zealand Kind regards Ben

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Hello from Whitstable (UK) I am in the process of setting up a registered charity (Coastal Plastic Project) to help tackle some of the plastic waste problems we have in our local area. We are aiming to have a local collection/community point and run a recycling workspace. Due to Covid-19 we put work on pause but trying to ramp it back up again. It would be great to hear how others got started and arrange a visit to see how others have set-up their recycling workspace in the UK (when safe to do so). Please let me know if anyone would be happy for me to visit? All the best Iszy

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@Iszy - Coastal Plastic Project That's basically what we do, we usually offer workshops but don't know when it will be possible again. check www.plasticatbay.org

Thank you @PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland . I'll keep an eye on the website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7VwB1QiVbI

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Hello! I want to share an update of the project, ~~PlasticRise~~. We changed our name to BottleChain, while also changing our project's focus. First please take a look at this drawing that I made yesterday.

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This is a friendly version, here is a not so friendly version.

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https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1rVDYPSZQsZ0TFsG41HTh6OK-cZoz5agw4kK5WIBJq9A/edit?usp=sharing

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BottleChain's trash can looks like this.

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That's it

DM are welcome

if you had $20,000 usd to do a percious plastic project how would you approach it

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through R and D? looking for more investment

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or through trying to enter a market through manufacturing products out of recycled plastic

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im in a position where its a very real possibility i get a grant for a project like this

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and dont think its enough to actually start a proper manufacturing company at scale to compete

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whats your thoughts

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please @ me if you reply so i can see it

Hii I need to know about the machines.. And the design of it with whome can I talk about it

Is there anyone here with a shredding machine that can test if it's able to shred BOPP plastic packaging films? (edited)

If anyone could @ me or get in touch, as I have tonnes of material that I could start recycling...

@gatt best is maybe to

ask in the channel of the country you're in, or
find and contact machine shops/workspaces who are close to you (you can find them on the map: community.preciousplastic.com/map)

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@david de'silva have you checked the machine chapters in the academy and the blueprints in the download kit already? https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build For further questions, the best channel is probably the #archived-machines channel

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@Lazy_Turtle cool trash bins!

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@Slartibartfast wow that would be a great budget, should definitely be enough to set up a recycling workspace! Would probably first have a look into the potentials and interested people (maybe even existing workspaces) and see if there is potential for collaboration

Going through the action plan might also help you to clarify where you want to go and what makes sense to do: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business/actionplan

Hi I'm fokoue happy to be with you

Hi,am a new member

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We are looking for a way to set up a new recycling plastic facilities

Hey PP, just made our logo

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for BottleChain project

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It means small change can create big change, which is what our project is about

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Looking for a BottleChain beta tester!!

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Able to make this and try out our concept!

Hi, I'm new here. Looking at the possibility of starting a new recycling business in my area. Any advice on how to do the benchmark and finding out potential regarding the profitability of a plastic recycling business?

Hey guys, I love this server. Please let me know what you guys think of my work https://www.alchemi.tech/research (edited)

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Heya, I'm thinking on a new design for shredder. Anyone that's up to help me doing so? Kind of hard to do everything by myself.

Why are you not going for the existing design?

Hello everyone, I'm based in the south coast of the UK, doesn't seem to be anyone operating near me. Looking for someone who has an extruder that could assist me with a new project.

Hello, I'm planning to make a shredder with an Orbitrek structure. Somebody here with a similar previous experience?

@Jonatan | NL because upgrades always can be done

@Dante I would rather tweak the existing design than create a new one. Otherwise its a Lot of work lol. You have had problems with the V4? (edited)

Could do that yeah, but still a lot of work to approach my idea. And no, it just some design flaws I can see and want to try to fix

@Camilo Ferrúa like a super bike powered shredder? I'm intrigued.

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@Dante what are some of the points you'd like to improve?

@CitSciWorkshop yes, I know there are some experiences using bikes, but this time I want to make it like stable, like a multifunctional blood powered motor, in this case used for plastic shredding, but also with option to use it for other tools

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This is like the first sketch

Those spinning bikes have some great flywheel stuff added that other bikes don't as well. Good momentum (edited)

I have the Orbitrek's "big wheel" my idea to convert it into a fly wheel is to fill it with sand bags

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This is how it looks on the inside

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It has 8 spaces, triangles like a pizza

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With that weight it's going to have a lot of strength ones it's running

Or try something that will never move like a quick cement

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You could mount your metal attachments and let the cement cure around it, cast everything into a final place.

@CitSciWorkshop first of all some safety for the user, aswell for the machine. Manteinance, and try to make it more compact. Maybe that could lead to more upgrades but right now I just don't know that. Have to start working on it

Hi all, i'm currently working with precious plastics Lancaster to develop a new mould for our sheet press. We currently have a 420x420mm heat press. I dont know how well the images will show out but have been experimenting with a bottom sheet with a floating frame and a top sheet with a smaller insert that pushes the plastic into the frame. I was wondering if anyone on this discord has any other ideas for sheet press moulds as we are at the stage where we want to properly manufacture these frames. Thanks!

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Hello guys,My name is Stefan, Im the founder of Eco Remix the main goal of this is gathering , cutting and re-modeling plastic.For a long time now i have been following Precious Plastic and i have started to make my own machines. For now i only have a shredder and an oven, and currently in the making of a compression machine.I started this project with my girlfriend but i whould love to go on the next level. I whould need people with knowledge and who are eager to make somethng new and unique,to make the world more clean for everyone.For the Start i will need people who will write projects that will secure the source of income for financing the manufacture of machines,a product designer as well as site,of course someone who lives near by to help me in recycling , I live in Jagodina, in the beginning this whould be a volunteer thing,of course, the goal is to get as many people involved as possible. every advice is helpfull and welcomed. thank you for your time.

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Reaching it looks like that plastic has a limited recyclability number

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how can we address this, track, etc

Shop upgrade. We shred and now use this big dust collector to collect all the shred plastic into bags.

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May I have a qustion?

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Hi! I am Aarshiya, a member of an FTC robotics team and am excited to be here!

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Nice to meet everyone

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Has anyone attempted to make their own molds for extrusion?

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I'm very interested in creating some custom molds for products. What materials should be used to get a high quality finish?

Hello guys, my name is Aadhi, and I am currently trying to find out a way to recycle some PVC material. Does anyone have any resources or knowledge specifically on PVC and additives about PVC recycling?

Seems like this discord doesn't have very many people to answer questions

True. I avoid melting pvc because I keep hearing that it's quite toxic. I've seen people "unfolding" pvc pipes into sheets so that they could CNC it.

@guru discord is meant to spark discussion, people definitely answer and help when they can though too.

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@Aadhi PVC is extremely toxic and pretty hard to recycle. What is the reason for a process specific to PVC?

Currently working on creating a eco-friendly helmet brand, and I am currently talking with potential businesses looking to get rid of their PVC waste material. Will be receiving PVC in large amounts, and I was just wondering if i can reuse that material instead of it causing harm in landfills @CitSciWorkshop

Take the time to go through the how to's on the community page as well as the bazzar also make sure to sign up to https://davehakkens.nl/ where there are literally 100's of topic discussions around everything plastic recycling. This is the best PP resource out there.

Thank you @NoMorePlastic for the pro tips. I'm incredibly interested in melting plastics for reuse.

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I am aware that plastic actually loses quality when it's recycled and can only truly be recycled about 3-6 times. Does this also hold true for melting plastics and using them in extrusion molds?

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I plan on tinkering with using molds as well and uploading my results and findings here.

Given that most plastic in existence is still on its first iteration it wont be an issue for quite some time and if thought is put into the products it is being remade into (not just throw away trinkets) we hopefully will not see a 3rd process for many years to come even decades. I however can not factually answer your question as I am unsure as to the chemical changes plastic goes through when recycled each time.

Thank you. That's still very useful info as I know that's not something I'll have to worry about in the near future

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thankfully, using only a little virgin material in a mix can preserve quality as well.

Now i get it!

Thanks @Nick - PP France

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somehow i landed to the other channel first

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Is anyone living in southamerica?? Im planing to move to ecuador next year and would love to see whats going on over there

@pepart check #deleted-channel

Common thing that new members land on #deleted-channel ... Maybe #coding platform could help us organize stuff

Hello everyone! I am looking for the file to make the bottle opener mold. Does anyone have it or know where to download it?

Hi Precious Plastic People! We're starting Precious Plastic in Plymouth, UK with social enterprises, Fab Lab Plymouth, organisations and volunteers from the city

We have a space but would love to get advice and feedback on our plans for the machines, sourcing plastic, etc - Would some of you from the #realpreciousplastic team be up for joining us online in September during the recycling week (21st-27th) @davehakkens @Kat @louisbruno @Fritz @easymoulds @Vicente Varella @Hugh Huge thanks in advance!! (edited)

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@Lazy_Turtle I have noticed that too. I think people see it as “Community Platform” and not as “Code Community Platform”.

Yep ikr

hello Ive had shreader parts made from the version 2 blue print and I cant see what size threaded rod is used any ideas please

Hello my name is Alexnder szewczyk, and I am 18 years old. I watched the video about making an iPhone case from plastic, I have a couple of questions, how can you find the dimensions for the iPhone 7-8 case and so on. And what was the other machine that was used to press the plastic into the mould. I tried to contact jerry, I want to make a living making and selling these recleyed phone cases. Can someone please help me? With either some of the questions. I am trying to reduce the waste of plastic in the world. Thank you for your consideration.

this is going to sound stupid asking this but what market is plastic recycling in? im mid business planning to gather the funds to buy the machinery to start up but the business plan asks for a market where this business is my further development of the precious plastic ideas takes me into the world of design manufacture service platform but bridges over many markets

I'm very interested in creating some custom molds for products. What materials should be used to get a high quality finish?

@guru Perhaps HDPE is a good option

@guru Its mostly because these questions have all been asked and time is not to be wasted. Too many times people are asking how to download the files and honestly if you cant work out how to download the files off the PP website I suggest you will really struggle to build the machines and start a successful business. @Aadhi These machines are not designed to use PVC so that is why there are not a lot of answers coming your way. PVC Like PET it is a specific process and requires dedicated machinery. In regard to molds, for the best results they need to be from aluminium and made on a CNC machine. People have experimented with wood also but haven't achieved spectacular results, Laser cut steel works well for compression molding. It all depends on what you are trying to do. It's all still at a very experimental stage which is what most of us are doing to find the right process to fit our purpose.

@NoMorePlastic Chill out, some people are not as tech savvy as others and need a little more guidance when it comes to using computers and/or surfing the internet. The fact that they are not as proficient using a computer doesn't mean they don't have the skills or aptitudes to build a machine. Perhaps the best solution to the repetitive questions is to create a specific section with a list of frequently asked questions and whenever someone has a question redirect them to that FAQ section.

@Lorenzo Fernandez https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/support/faq

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The precious plastic idea got me into this but i want to go one step further and aim for zero waste (or as close to zero as possible) to landfill. From what Precious plastic has taught me, the plastic problem can actually be used as part of the process of the solution ie use the material to build the tools to collect, this then can be used to collect more and minmise cash cost input but maximise cash output in the long run. Just saying thanks for being the spark to the ideas you guys gave me.

it needs drying, i was plotting that out here: https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/PET_Plastic_Recycling_Workflow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polypropylene

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@Aldothegreen85 do you know about OSE yet?

@Aldothegreen85 Have you seen Kurtis Bauke om YouTube?

Not yet but ill have a look

So first the rant on what OSE is Basically a group dedicated to making all the open source hardware needed to build/run a small town/farm. Complex to explain so perhaps watch the ted talk and check it out? Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page

Anyone from the community located in the Chandler, AZ area? Trying to find a prescious plastics community down there.

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Anyone use a blender to shred plastic? One that's not a Vitamix?

frequent question; typical workflow is: Clip with chears/scissors as small as possible -> small batches in blender

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@Eric Lotze Thanks for your feedback. Any recommendations for heat resistant gloves and clamps? Not making big items, just smaller stuff. I just bought a small toaster oven to melt down plastic. Looking for a panini press but can't find one without the grooves that create grill marks. I prefer flat surface panini grill, but does it even matter? Planning to cut plastic down to small pieces, throw in toaster oven/panini press, then put into moulding blocks.

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Also any recommendations on melting down 5? What temp should I heat the 5 plastics at? And is 300-350 good for the HDPE? Also, sorry in advance if I'm asking questions that have been asked already plenty of times. I'm new to Discord and still trying to get familiar with the platform.

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so polypropyline, let me dig

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130 to 171 °C melting point (supposedly)

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probably some community stuff around

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the precious plastic website also has a lot of this info around (i am not too familiar with it)

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@Eric Lotze thanks for all your advice!

I figured this would be a good place to share this, being a maker community and all. Not sure how global Mythbusters became, but here is a bit of story sharing after the passing. https://youtu.be/2TG_pm98W8c

Adam Savage’s Tested

Remembering Grant Imahara - Still Untitled: The Adam Savage Project...

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saw that. I grew up watching that show (almost exclusively when in belgium; not too many english channels (especially for kids shows, so watched a pile of discovery channnel...)

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Anyone have luck melting down LEGOs? Seeing people selling per pound online for relatively cheap. For the life of me I see an abundance of 1, 4, and 5 plastics, but can’t find much 2s right now.

they are abs, but if looking for bulk plastic look into pellets

@Eric Lotze what’s “abs?” Also any tips on buying pellets? HDPE preferably?

For buying pellets you can get HUGE volumes for great USD/Kilogram prices on places like alibaba, or ebay. Small volumes but higher USD/Kilogram prices can be bought on amazon or other similar places

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https://www.ebay.com/b/abs-pellets/bn_7024950562

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylonitrile_butadiene_styrene

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i'd say use the names like "ABS" "PLA" and similar abbreviations, instead of numbers, SUPPOSEDLY some number systems vary? idk

Ah gotcha @Eric Lotze that makes sense. Thanks for the buying in bulk tips. That actually saves me a lot of time and from having to go dumpster diving

i'd say do both!

8:08 PM

i am plotting also a "collection service" for plastic collection

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https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Local_Recycling_Collection_Service

Local Recycling Collection Service

@Eric Lotze touché. That’s interesting. For sanitation purposes do you just use Clorox bleach or something when dumpster diving? I’ve been keeping an eye on FB, OfferUp, Craigslist, laundromats to snag free or cheap plastics. But starting a collection service is a good idea too.

i would not say full on dumpsters!

8:10 PM

in my community we have recycling bins, which may be 'free" to a certain extent

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some places have dumpster sized recycling bins as well

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and people SHOULD wash their plastic recyling pre-placing in bins

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still needs to be cleaned pre-melt, but not filled with food/liquid (hopefully...)

We’ve got recycling bins too, I just prefer to not have to dive in on them. Sometimes people put diapers and other trash in the recycling.

also do you have a dedicated site yet? drop off clean recycling can be a good option

@Eric Lotze so in your collection service would it just be a one man operation? Also how do you plan to get the word out? Knocking on doors?

idk, still plotting, thinking neighborhood scale, "newspaper delivery" like service

@Eric Lotze my own personal dedicated site?

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Im actually considering at some point having an office location where people can drop off and I can clean, manufacture and tinker. So I suppose that would be a dedicated site.

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But as of now I don’t have my own.

not yet then same

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lets move to #archived-collection for p l o t t i n g if you want to continue discussing my ideas

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What would you consider a reasonable price for weekly collection of plastic recycling? (and possibly metal/glass/paper)

@Eric Lotze A friend of mine runs an organic waste collection service that does weekly pickups for composting and he charges $30 a month and you get compost back the next season. Might work to charge more if you give a perk like that. Not sure what it could be but it’s an idea.

sounds great so ~7 a week or so. I was plotting some sort of organic waste one too. A bit more bulky, but with a truck perhaps? Either compost or anerobic digestion

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@Eric Lotze This is his site if you what to check it out more (https://www.greenerbinscompost.com) He’s just got a few people with trucks. He does well with it.

awesome!

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They on discord yet? I'd love to discuss with them if they are lol

I don’t think so but I’ll reach out to him and see.

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i registered for bazar platform but are continent not list of stripe api, what can i do to complete my registration on payment accept

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@PP Nigeria @Joseph might be able to help with some advice. Let's see if he's around soon.

@CitSciWorkshop ok, thanks

I agree, it would help to have 2-3 account options, ways to accept payment for any region. What would be the best way for you?

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ok

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i will hold on to hear from Joseph

I'll hold on to fan

Any one have any destructive testing setups yet?

Hello, Im a new member looking for recycler's in the UK. Message me if anyone has got 50mm/50mm plastic extrusions please . (edited)

Has anyone succeeded in making any sort of large bin/box with the PP machines?

Hey

3:50 AM

Anyone from Colombia?

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@CitSciWorkshop I will DM to @Joseph to guide me on the process

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Since becoming active recycling folk what annoys you the most?

4:32 PM

This is what annoys me

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The honesty of the label "not currently recycled" is really good though. Much better than a fake "recyclable plastic" but realistically not.

@Aldothegreen85 the worst is the plastic in the wipe itself. These things should be banned

I know i have tried to stop my mrs buying them but they come back into the house

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I did see pura wipes which bio degrade but since covid19, stocks have disappeared from supermarkets

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I wish they would identify all plastics even if its not currently recycled it will make the difference when we discover how to recycle it

it is a metalized plastic film right? (or just paint/ink?)

No just plastic and ink (hdpe film i reckon)

can it be solvent-ed off

ON ANOTHER NOTE

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has anyone had sucess with shredding plastic film?

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It seems most people melt it into a block then shred the block

I am just starting this journey, so bear with me, there may be a lot of stupid questions. 1st question, there is a pro extruder that uses molds and an injector that uses molds. What is the difference? I would assume each has things which it is better suited for.

Mainly Throughput, the pro injection is good for higher quality machine of the injection, the injection does good for small injection molding workflows

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The Extrusion Can Be Used for (Continuous) Extrusion, it can also be used for rapid/high throughput injection molding

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and questions are fine, that's why we are here!

If one uses the extrusion machine is there a way to attach multiple molds? Otherwise one would have to stop the extrusion to change molds?

at once you mean, i assume?

yes

that is definetly doable, more so on the mold design side

8:32 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_runner

Hot runner

A hot runner system is an assembly of heated components used in plastic injection molds that inject molten plastic into the cavities of the mold. (The cavities are the part of the mold shaped like the parts to be produced.) By contrast, a cold runner is simply a channel formed...

8:32 PM

called "runners" i think

8:33 PM

think of the model sets with the "snap off" bits

ok, that's clear.

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What is your delivery time on machines with all the Covid stuff going on?

i am just a discord lurker! On the note of machines, some are sold on the "PP Bazaar' but DIY is the best option IMO, also do you have a business plan/space already?

Yes, I have a space. I'm working on the business plan now, and the timeline.

do you have machining capabilities?

I have access to CNC services and welders here in Mexico. As well as a partner that is a welder. I could have the machines built easily.

8:37 PM

But it being Mexico, it might not be faster!

wonderful! I say just use that, and local (or cheap imported) raw materials then. The Plans Are Published

OK! good advice.

Are you in the mexico/latin america channels yet? May be able to network locally (if you haven't already)

No, I'm not. This is my first time on Discord.

it's in that left bar, it is in the PP discord channel; a sub-channel of sorts (edited)

I am very close to the border of the US and I saw there is someone in New Mexico, I sent a message to that person.

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I'll check out the latin America channels.

Can you use welding gloves when working with melted plastics? I went to Home Depot and the only thing remotely close to high temp gloves were their welding gloves.

those are it i think

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outside of maybe those metalized thermal radiation protective ones

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Hi everyone, I am looking to start a plastic recycling organization in Canada, and am just looking for advice on how to get started. At the moment, I think I may invest in a Filastruder to extrude plastic shreds, but am in need of a shredder. I know I can buy fully assembled shredders or kits at the Bazaar, but am wondering if it would be more cost efficient to get parts laser cut by a local company... does anyone have advice or tips for me? Thank you in advance.

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@KaiFromCanada Hi there welcome. If its the shredder Pro you are after it is quite a hard machine to build and you will need the skill set and tools to do it. If you can do it all your self you may save money but if you need to out source it all, its going to be cheaper from the bazaar, shipping will be your biggest cost.

@NoMorePlastic Thank you for the info! For now, I think I am looking to start smaller, possibly just with a basic shredder to see how it goes. A friend of mine has offered to weld. Would it still be cheaper to buy from the Bazaar?

@KaiFromCanada as long as you understand how it goes together and what parts you need as well as good problem solving as it doesn't always just work, the smaller one is easier but it has loads of design faults and a very low grinding capacity.

@NoMorePlastic I see. I’ll have to take all this into consideration. Thank you so much for the information, I really appreciate all the help.

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Anyone know where I could buy shredded ocean plastic? Anyone willing to sell?

https://discord.gg/AAdTN9k

@KaiFromCanada Where in Canada are you located?

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) Saskatoon, SK.

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Anyone up for a building challenge? The challenge is to make a new product from recycled materials in the least amount of steps the lower the co2 output/electric the better the build, the longer life of the product or adapted uses the better and the higher craftfare resale value the better also....

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This is my contribution entry the stash storage jar/desk pencil sharpner jar with bin 1 hole drilled 2 washers from an old washing machine, 1 candle jar with lid, one wardrobe drawer handle with fixing screw, and one #5 PP sauce tub also with lid. Reckon i could ask for around £3+ in resale value

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Hello I’m trying to find all mounds and referring information for bulding bricks, need help finding the documents even though I just downloaded everything can’t find it

Hello my name is Alexnder Chefchick, and I am 18 years old. I watched the video about making an iPhone case from plastic, I have a couple of questions, how do you find the dimensions for the iPhone 7-8 case. And what was the other machine that was used to press the plastic into the mould. I tried to contact jerry, I tried emailing him but still no response. I want to make a living making and selling these recleyed phone cases. Can someone please help me? With either some of the questions, or Jerry’s recent contact number or if he has a new email. Please. I am trying to reduce the waste of plastic in the world.

Hi guys, does anyone knows where we can ding dfx file for hexagon tiles? Looked everywhere but so far no success

Hi all, does anyone know whether products from recycled plastic shed microplastics? I am thinking about producing furniture for public spaces. Thanks for your help :)

@chefchickkk thingiverse might be the place to go for cad drawings for it bud

Someone knows how is this called?

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I guess it's a level, it has some lead balls

Hi! i was watching the videos of precious plastic on youtube, i wanted to know the times of the process in general, like for ex how much time does it takes to heat the plastic for a big sheet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwNW8XOjBP0 like the video

This is a Plastic Sheetpress Workspace

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i wanted to start doing tables with recycled plastic in my city, i have requests but i need to know the times in order to know when can i deliver the orders

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pleaaaaaaase help

Someone knows how is this called?

@Sargemto mantequilla I would call that a clinometer

@Camiluwu thickness of the sheet is what will determine the time to melt it. You'll find these information in our academy. If you just want to make table, I would recommend you to buy some sheet to an existing workspace maybe ? (there is some is Europe already)

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Hi all, does anyone know whether products from recycled plastic shed microplastics? I am thinking about producing furniture for public spaces. Thanks for your help :) (this is the second and last try

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Hi @Bonobo, I am not super knowledgeable about these things but I would assume that all plastic items (recycled plastic or not) shed microplastics. Anything exposed to weather / the elements would degrade and shed microplastics.

Thanks @Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) , I find it difficult to decide whether this is a better option than, for example, wood. It sheds plastic, but grows awareness etc. Any opinions about what to choose?

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@Bonobo The way I’ve always looked at this conundrum is that the plastic that this furniture would potentially be made out of already exists as waste and is already going to be shedding microplastics into whatever environment it ends up in. Any use that that already made plastic ends up as will eventually degrade and become microplastic unless it is incinerated. So if you make items that take waste plastic and extend their lifecycles as long as possible, I think this is a good thing. Wood is great too though, just depends on what your goals are.

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) Thanks for this insight. Do you think products for inside use are a better idea than? incineration might be a better option, but only if no new products are made instead I guess...

@Bonobo I think that any extension of the life of a piece of plastic that has already been created and is destined for a landfill or the ocean, etc. is a good thing. I think that it just depends on what you think is valuable and what you think there is a market for. If a bunch of single use plastic items gets created into a chair that takes 15 years to degrade, at least it was useful for that amount of time. And perhaps it stopped someone from buying a new plastic chair. (edited)

Thank you @Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG), that was of great help!

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Hi all, what is the best way to recycle these plastics?

@jennyfel first step is finding out what plastic it is

@Bonobo hey bud is this indoor or outdoor furniture? If its outdoors what uv levels do you get and how hot and cold are your average years like i reused PP plastic yogurt tubs for young plants in a greenhouse they lasted 2 seasons and went brittle shattering into a million pieces when i tryied to pic them up (reckon this was mainly down to the thin walls of the tub and our scottish weather, hot summer cold winter and then there is the relentless rain.)

@jennyfel they look to be carryier bags or packaging bags so i would say you could possibly fuse them together to make stronger plastic bags if you have a big enough floor space you could fuse them together to make a large sheet build a frame structure and you have your very own recycled tarp shed to protect your stuff from the sun or rain. See precious plastics bag making video for fusion process really easy and low budget if you make it too thick to bend without heat, gently use a heat gun to wrap around the frame bolt together using rubber washers. Not sure if fused plastic can be shredded like HPDE but the HDPE plastic film is easly fused together to make large hdpe films for other applications

Is there way to get quality plastic bottles waste? (edited)

Hi everyone, I am a designer/maker currently working at a studio in London. I would love to get involved with this project as i have been following it since day 1, However financially i am very limited. Where would be the best place to look for open positions at workshops or studios?

@Oxygen220 try a hackspace https://www.hackspace.org.uk/

Hi all! I would like to know where I can find plans or complete designs, associated with a crushing machine other than the professional crusher that appears on the precious plastic platform (I mean, for example, the first versions of the crushers that appear in videos, in the Mr. Dave's channel). Since I'm just getting started on this and I don't have a big budget to consider the professional shredder. Anyone who can help me would really appreciate it!

Hey again! I was just wondering what people use to protect themselves in the workshop. Particularly for people doing shredding and extruding. I’m hoping to get some machines soon, and was wondering what type of safety precautions or equipment I should take/get before getting started. I would be setting up shop in my 2 car garage, but it would be towards the back of the garage. I could keep the garage door open, but would that be enough? I don’t think so, right?

https://youtu.be/bsj6qHHLynk Only aware of this video so far for fumes Incase you burn the plastic. I imagine you could seal the shredder so the bits don’t fly out. And heat protective gloves for the extruded? Not too sure. New to this, but that may be enough. Hopefully others will chime in.

How to work safe with plastic fumes

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@KaiFromCanada

@RickE Thank you for the tips and the link. Will check it out! Thanks!

Hey good people, just wanted to know if anyone has manufacturing contacts in the US or Canada that is willing to work with recycled plastic. Needed for medium to large orders.

Ive been thinking could we be missing a trick with plastic films. This is a sandyaught, sail buggy, beech cruiser, many names same kinda idea. But what if the sail was fused plastics thosands of crisp packets all not currently recycled all the carrier bags all ending up in landfil or on beaches. Could these plastics be fused completely? Or would they require stiching? 4layers per sheet 3 sheets rivited together to make one sail. Cross the bonding style verticle crossing horizontal or aposing diagonals? This could be a pretty awesome idea? What you guys think?

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Hello everyone! :))) Warm greetings from Seoul, Korea! We are team PP SEOUL, were wondering about making small sheet press with the heating transfer machine (for making cool t shirt and stuff). Does anyone tried it before? Would be great if we could get advices and tips!!!!!!<3<3<3

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4:05 AM

This is the heating transfer machine for printing on t-shirt..!

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Ive been thinking could we be missing a trick with plastic films. This is a sandyaught, sail buggy, beech cruiser, many names same kinda idea. But what if the sail was fused plastics thosands of crisp packets all not currently recycled all the carrier bags all ending up in landfil or on beaches. Could these plastics be fused completely? Or would they require stiching? 4layers per sheet 3 sheets rivited together to make one sail. Cross the bonding style verticle crossing horizontal or aposing diagonals? This could be a pretty awesome idea? What you guys think?

@Aldothegreen85 there is a guy in Melbourne doing amazing stuff by melting plastic bags together to make fabric he then sews into backpack and bags etc. maybe have a chat to him. www.aoracreo.com

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Interesting @ppseoul

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@NoMorePlastic cheers bud sent him an email

Guys i dont know how i feel about this

https://youtu.be/gajEtR--GCg

Tech Insider

Fungi Mutarium mushroom eats plastic

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This looks pretty cool, not gonna lie. Not sure if I would enjoy eating it though

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The cup at the end looks seriously sinister

it sure does

Hello all! My name is Lee, a filmmaker based in London. Apologies for the random post, but I just wanted to share my latest short film 'Our Plastic Beach' which is now available to watch online! The story follows a young girl and her Grandmother tackling plastic waste on their local beach. https://vimeo.com/440290692 I hope you enjoy it and let's inspire the younger generation! Thank you

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Has anyone tried making 3d filament on the extruder? If so, how many kg/hour were you able to make?

The key to FDM Filament is the Diameter Tolerances; If they vary a ton the extrusion volume will jump all over and prints will fail. IDK about adaptations of the standard extrusion, but there is extensive work on a dedicated FDM Filament Maker + Winder Here:

9:52 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder

Break down styrofoam in days instead of hundreds of years

9:52 PM

ON ANOTHER NOTE

9:53 PM

is there a service for "renting" 3d printers for a 3d printing service; cars->uber as 3d printers->this service

Hello, Can any one provide mechanical or physicalproperties of Recycled plastic sheets.

I don't know if we have anyone with testing capabilities for tensile strength etc, but i would love some "hard data" on all this

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@Aldothegreen85 that looks brilliant!

8:02 AM

Fungi that eat plastic. I remember there was a mushroom that absorbed gold. It's awesome!

There are also worms (or rather larvae) that can digest styrofoam and turn it into soil (after eating it multiple times) https://youtu.be/TS9PWzkUG2s (edited)

The Thought Emporium

9:26 AM

Here is the paper: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acs.est.5b02661

@robin-hf There has also been some research in PP V4 - I saw big glas with styrofoam eating larvae at the DDW19 exhibit in Eindhoven.

Hi folks. Looking for a solution to break plastic down so it can fit in our shredder. Ideally we’d get a band saw but large kit like that isn’t a possibility just now. What would anyone recommend?

@Sandesh Rao we tried some tensile test during V4, but results are hard to interpret : the main problem in sheets is random localised defect, so the position of your sample in the sheet change everything. When you could expect 70-80% of virgin plastic strength, realistically you are closer to 30-40%. For me these data are then a bit dangerous then : you will calculate a structure based on something which is highly dependent on you manufacturing process (cleanliness of your plastic, compatibility of the flakes...). So as a base line I would say, don't expect much of it and don't built a bridge with it ! This is still very good for furniture, wall covering, non-structural part of sheds...

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Search Results Acetone dissolves styrofoam and some other plastics aswell!!

@Uplifted ive heard of a type of oyster mushroom that breaks down plastic (PS i think it was) which looks more appitiseing than these strange looking sinister cups

does any one know where the planns for the sunglasses are????????

@durack have you tried using a hacksaw? I know with my thicker hdpe drums a hacksaw cuts reasonably quick with minimal waste

Thanks @Aldothegreen85 - have tried a hacksaw and totally works - was just hoping to find a quicker way for some time saving

@Yann Thank you so much

Hello all @precious plastic universe...im new here...exploring

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Hello !

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At my school I have a plastic shredder and sheet press. We controlled the temperature on the sheet press by making it lower since it has digital temperature controllers and we haven’t burned the plastic yet. Online it mentions that we should never mix plastics together, but we tried experimenting on making a sheet with mixed plastic which had a great surface finish but the edges were a bit incomplete/hole-y. Was this because of lack of material or beginners luck?

Mixing makes recycling near impossible (outside of pyrolysis and pyrolysis oil reprocessing). But it can allow for great properties, and use of unusual plastics, i say it's worth the experimentation

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Ive been experimenting with the not currently recycled labled plastic or plastics that havent been ID'd. Does anyone know if plastic films such as HDPE film can be fused together then shredded then injection moulded or does the shredder still not like hdpe film?

Generally non-rigid plastics jam a shredder. When HDPE is thicker than the 2mil bags it shreds fine. Yes you could press a few together in a thicker sheet to shred, had a few similar thoughts myself!

Hey all, new here. Just wondering if theres a guide or fact sheet on what can/cant be recycled? Eg i have a friend looking to recycle photo film / negatives. Any idea where i should look?

@Benjamin do you remember where you saw the project at DDW19 or who made it? I am planning on doing a project with these worms and I would love to see what has already been done

Hey team

Looking for solutions to for Agricultural Waste Plastic, such as LDPE Silage plastic, HDPE chemical drums and LLDPE baling wrap. One of the first problems in how best to clean the materials. Do you think the shredder will cope with the dirt?

I’d like to start building the basic shredder machine . I can’t find the files on the website . There is only files for the shredder pro, is there any one could help me please

@JessYoungRSA I am wanting to do something very similar. Lots of greenhouses and agriculture around me with tons of plastic waste. Let me know if you hear of some solutions.

I would love to work on this sometime. Also wondering about vacuum seal bags

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Hullo Everyone! I am now online, so feel free to ping me ( @ ) if you have any questions etc

Hello - I am brand new here so please forgive the dumb question...

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Is it possible to just pay someone to produce an extrusion or injection and not bother with the machines oneself?

Hi everyone, Siviwe here. I am an industrial designer from South Africa looking to explore new material possiblities. Looking forward to learning a lot from the group.

@Spencer Definetly, between online people in the community, or local machinists/ "hands on people" that is definetly do-able. Especially if you make a local club/group of some sort

8:21 PM

@Siviwe_J Welcome! Do you have any questions about Precious Plastic?

@Eric Lotze Well just general stuff like what are some key design considerations when designing parts from recyled plastic. E.g. appropiate wall thickness, best practice for mold making, finishing off parts after demolding?

We honestly don't have TOO much on all that. I found some online courses/tutorials, but we don't have too much of all that (yet, can always develop that...).

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On another note have you heard of the group "OSE"

No, what's that?

Basically a group dedicated to making all the open source hardware needed to build/run a small town/farm. Complex to explain so perhaps watch the ted talk and check it out? Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page

Awesome will check it out thanks.

@Eric Lotze Hey Erick, Where can i find files to build the basic shredder?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredder

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

thank you

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but i am looking for the pdf files

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there are only for the Shredder pro

via clicking through that link i found this: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/shredder-21

https://polymer-additives.specialchem.com/selection-guide/pigments-for-plastics

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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is that the page? (edited)

Yes ! that one

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thank you so much

Thanks Eric!

no problem!

hello everyone, I'm Kat and I make recycled coasters.

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I've just had one question though, I use my own process at home (since I can't afford the machines), would I still be able to apply for the bazaar?

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and would I be an actual workspace person or just a community member if I don't use the machines? (edited)

@Rai I'd say you'd just be a community member. In my mind atleast, a workspace person would be in a workshop where others can participate & join in on making. For your bazaar question, I don't know (edited)

@Rai There are plenty of people doing handcraft on the Bazar, I'd say give it a try!

alright, thx for the feedback ;)

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I really need a better cheap option than using hand scissors....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_-vf8RBzuc (moral of the story, don't open up unknown sealed containers)

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ra-di-o-thearay eh? i'll crack it open with a hammer and take a look (edited)

oh I feel that

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I just bought a couple paper shredders for bigger things

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6:00 PM

today i am continuing my local makerspace/recycling center/community center plots, TODAY i am plotting toolsharing

Hello, it's been a while since I wanted to develop my actions for ecology, recycling ... At this time, I am in an association which organizes a festival which links the animal cause and ecology. I would like to open a Precious Plastic sector in France and especially in Reims. I would like more and more festivals to be ecologically oriented. Because I know both areas. I would like to know what authorization or other to set up a sector in Reims? I plan to build the machines.

I think the only authorization would be legal use of land/spaces, that and takes/non-for-profit paperwork etc

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anyone in the U.S. selling PP flakes?

hi greeting from Indonesia

@Rai I think we are years away from those complex "plastic economies" i think for now, most places need to be "all in one" to a certain degree

what

7:18 PM

I only work in a few types lol

I mean there are no self sustaining "shredder" spaces really. (ie not worth selling and shipping flakes, either recycle local materials or buy pellets of alibaba or something)

@Eric Lotze Someone might want to sell PP flakes to @Rai though

‍♂️.

they definetly can! I am just not in the loop on who can, but 100 percent do so if they are local enough (edited)

Um olá do Brasil!

yeah I guess shipping costs are an issue

8:55 PM

I’m in the US and most of the flakes are in Europe so shipping is an issue

you can get a PILE of pellets, if you don't have enough of a material locally

i’d probably want to buy rarer colors if anything (edited)

9:02 PM

would be nice to have a ton of purple and never have to look for it again

I think it effects structual properties a it, but there are also "dye pellets/powders" to add to plastic to change color. For instance they will mix "raw" abs with lets say red dye pellets. So check alibaba and whatnot for purple plastic dye perhaps? let me dig

9:05 PM

Pigments for Plastic Colorants: Types, Properties & Processing Guide

Explore the detailed information on different types of pigments and colorants for the plastics industry along with their key features, properties and processing solutions.

ohh ok, I will look into that (edited)

logging off for a few hours

Out of curiosity, has anyone had success forming plastic beads from plastic shred?

11:53 PM

Either injection molded or extruded

11:54 PM

I’m interesting in producing recycled plastic beads out of colored plastics to use in beadwork sculptures :)

Hello everyone, my name is Lucas and with my friends (Darilen and Sebastián) we are starting a plastics recycling business in the province of Misiones, Argentina. A month ago we were wanting to start a project together and it occurred to us to recycle plastics, we started looking for information on the internet and we were a little scared when we saw the great and big machines that use in some companies, but luckily we found the Precious Plastic videos , then we started reading the downloadable kits from the community and they were very helpful. We have already been carrying out some campaigns to collect plastic waste on the river coast and we make built a shredder with recycled materials. We are currently putting together our project to request financing from the state. (Sorry for my bad english) Hola a todos, mi nombre es Lucas y junto a mis amigos (Darilen y Sebastián) estamos comenzando con un emprendimiento de reciclado de plásticos en la provincia de Misiones, Argentina. Hace mas o menos un mes estábamos queriendo comenzar un proyecto juntos y se nos ocurrió reciclar plásticos, empezamos a buscar información en internet y nos asustamos un poco cuando vimos las grandes maquinas que usan en algunas empresas, pero por suerte encontramos los videos de Precious Plastic, luego nos pusimos a leer los kit descargables de la comunidad y nos fueron de gran ayuda. Ya estuvimos realizando algunas campañas de recolección de desechos plásticos en la costa del rio y mandamos a construir una trituradora con materiales también reciclados, actualmente estamos armando nuestro proyecto para solicitar financiamiento al estado.

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1:04 AM

We call ourselves Punto RAR, a word game based on the compressed .rar file format Punto RAR refers to "A point (place) where to Recycle, Adapt and Reuse" I share some photos of our first campaign and future shredder... Nos hacemos llamar Punto RAR, un juego de palabras basado en el formato comprimido de archivos .rar Punto RAR hace referencia a "Un punto donde Reciclar, Adaptar y Reutilizar" Comparto algunas fotos de nuestra primer campaña y futura trituradora...

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1:05 AM

future shredder

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@LucasFM, I really like the name and that shredder design does look interesting. Would like to hear about the progress of this project in the future

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@Rai where are you located in the US, I am currently looking into opening a mix workshop/ event workshop and would not mind to get connected

I'm in Minnesota and attend uni in St. Paul @DrizzyKing (edited)

3:34 AM

I currently work without any precious plastic equipment, since the budget is a bit much, but I'd be willing to dive on into it. My priorities are to have access to a shredder, and a higher volume of material. (edited)

Hey guys ive started a hashtag #

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️ its for problem unidentifyable plastic products i dont want for much i just want every piece of plastic released to be identifyable rather than just a

️ symbol i want it to be marked with the

️ and HDPE FILM or whatever the plastic is, even if its a mix plastic* including percentages

️HDPE/__ (%/%)

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more people need to know about that

@Aldothegreen85 I completely agree. One of the main hurdles to get over is that many companies produce proprietary plastic mixes with specific properties for their own purposes and do not need to say what the exact type of plastic is.

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) @Rai if you find a product that is unidentifyable please talk to the manufacturers or stores who sell the product use the #

️

️ and we can put pressure on, to change the lack of info we have.

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alright. I do know of one product that I’m pretty sure is PET but it’s unlabeled

10:36 PM

I’ve checked the hashtag and there isn’t a lot of recycling related stuff yet, we should fill it up

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6:33 AM

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Learn about plastic issues and change your perspective of plastic with us!

I guess it's a level, it has some lead balls

@Sargemto mantequilla Man, thats used for sailing usually if I am not mistaken, you can see how tilt your boat is, helps you with getting to maximum speed.

Hullo Everyone! I am now online, so feel free to ping me ( @ ) if you have any questions etc

@Eric Lotze Eric, can you grant me some kind of admin acess for the OSLT discord?

6:23 PM

@Eric Lotze Also, dud you see my messages on OSE?

yeah, but i'm not a discord wizzard, let me see

@Eric Lotze If you want, you can make me admin or whatever. I'll manage it

you should have an admin role now on that other discord (edited)

Logging off for a bit

I sure hope OSE is not granted Admin on the Precious Plastic project. as a former financial backer, of OSE, I have seen firsthand how Marcin screwed things up and alienated his supporters. Have had people who were working on site there tell me a few horror stories. 8 years later, zero progress has done. Can not even get a proper layout and set of build plans for projects supposedly completed years ago like the CEB press,

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I think a lot of the issue was the constant tweaks never leave time to fully polish a design. PP does a real nice polish of their work

2:11 AM

Ose needs to take notes from PP

Hello everyone! Today I'm very happy because after a lot of work, we just finished our first plastic product. Thank you everyone in this community for your help! I wrote a small article about the experience, hope somebody can read it Regards from Antigua Guatemala, Guatemala https://ninjadevs.io.gt/protector-facial-upcycling-02-08-2020/

Careta de plastico reciclado

Después de meses de trabajo, metidas de pata, investigación y comunidad les vengo a contar como van avanzando los protectores faciales de la primera entrada

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Hi all, I'm Dr. Plastic in Hanoi, Vietnam. We have a workspace with a mini heat press, shredder, injector, oven, and a glass crusher. We're getting closer to producing sellable products after about 8 months or work, and I have a few questions about troubleshooting some injection issues. Not too familiar with Discord, where would be a good place to ask on here?

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Welcome on board @bmbaron :D Depending on what issue you are having, you could chose between #archived-plastic #archived-machines or #deleted-channel i guess ^^

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Thanks @Nick - PP France, will do

Anyone happen to have a good method for taking labeling stickers off of detergent bottles (these seem to be the hardest to remove)

8:34 PM

I just tried using cooking oil and that did nothing

some solvent maybe? Also perhaps soaking? i don't know to be honest

Haha its fine if you dont know my last resort would just be to cut that entire part off

i say experiment and document your results

8:39 PM

i may be able to run downstairs and try something too lol

Try WD40 and peel it off with plastic knife thats used to peel sticker

that is another oil, i think water or an alchohol

8:40 PM

soap perhaps? we are trying to get an adhesive off

Depends on the adhesive used honestly

dump everything you find in the house in a bucket and hope for the best? (edited)

Thats as far as i got with just trying to scrape it

8:42 PM

But I’ll try the wd40 and alcohol

hi guys, i need some help. Im a mechanical engineering student from the Philippines. I would like to know the feed rate of PET plastics to any shredder machine that you've built, as well as the power and speed of its motor and the size of the mesh or size of the shredded plastic. As a reference for my calculation to the machine that Im designing. thanks

I sure hope OSE is not granted Admin on the Precious Plastic project. as a former financial backer, of OSE, I have seen firsthand how Marcin screwed things up and alienated his supporters. Have had people who were working on site there tell me a few horror stories. 8 years later, zero progress has done. Can not even get a proper layout and set of build plans for projects supposedly completed years ago like the CEB press,

@Butte (PP Philippines) What you mean by progress, research wise and platform wise, it's still miles ahead. At least there folks have a chance to update information and enrich the library on their own - PP content on the other hand is stuck for years, at high costs for others as we can see on a daily base, here and outside of the 'public channels. To my knowledge, it's still the best OS focused content out there, for DIYers, and the like. If you know a better library, I'd be very interested

Also, I don't think you can't really compare OSE (long-term goals) and PP but sure, they don't have a product per se. I've spoken a number of times with Marcin, he's on the right track - OS wise, just a little bumpy in some ways, sure. The average PPers/trespassers won't even grasp 1% what this guy did

To us, it's rather PP who has to lend concepts, ideas and goals from OSE !! (edited)

I want to hear all the takes/stories, and igoring them leads to personality cults and whatnot.

12:35 AM

Outside of stuff unknown to me, OSE seems to be getting back on track per-se. There seemed to be these phases 1.) pet project 2.) post ted talk MAJOR fund/people influx 3.) post hype slump 4.) slow startup back to something workable, with defined goals/plans (so guessing some of that drama may have been "how do we manage this huge surge aaaaaaaaaa" ) idk need to hear more to actually know what i'm talking about lol

12:36 AM

I know the 2017 version of the CEB press has cad and whatnot. Also a replication was used in a recent project in belize. They had some issues, so it is essentially a beta version (ie it doesn't "just work" yet)

12:37 AM

PP is definetly WAY more polished, and WAY more networked, so definetly room to grow there lol

yeah, definitely more polished but lacking still lots of customer success or stories. It's rather a few professionals taking this further or make it work. I am trying since months to find a good architecture to actually get something going & viable in the long - taking the best ideas/methods of PP and OSE. It turns out a giant task (but getting there :-). Other than system stuff, I also feel we're at the very beginning and it seems rather impossible to cheat and bypass the existing system or craft. You will still rely on a good motor, some china heatbands, a hydraulic system (with invoice and warranty) and certified electronics. There is literally nothing you could replace in a good product whilst not cheating yourself, or screwing the others in the long run. For now, we took a quite a few steps back and try to make sense of this 'adventure'. I'd love to know more about the promoted one-army platform. Eventually there are some answers. good nite

i feel products/business models short of artisan stuff is the main lack in PP as of now

12:59 AM

FDM filament, and some sort of valuable injection molded etc product seem like good areas, also a collection service

I come often to the same conclusion: we might wasting time trying to solve things via technology whilst we could do so much better fixing ourself, and possible others too

Let's face it, there is literally nothing useful with plastic. I can't recall a single item in my entire workshop our households.

nothing useful with plastic ?

1:02 AM

the amount of plastics needed in modern medicine

1:02 AM

also seals for containers, and equipment

1:02 AM

I think plastic isn't a , but petroleum is, and improper disposal (ie litter/landfill/inproper incineration) (edited)

1:03 AM

biomass based petrolium products, proper disposal, and reasonable use are the solution in my mind

plastic needs oil, and the OPEC is cheating as far I know from visits in the United emirates, speaking with some of the producers. In 30-60 years it's all gone, they're even fracking it out of tar sand....says a lot. We did well without, the sooner we could find new ways, the better though.

between HTL and Pyrolysis bio-crude is doable. Main issues seem to be sustainable biomass sourcing (ie not using food land for fuel, and not deforesting/killing biodiversity) and differences in the feedstock (some nitrogen (i think) fouling of catalysts?)

1:06 AM

outside of that they are near drop in

1:06 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_liquefaction

Hydrothermal liquefaction

Hydrothermal liquefaction (HTL) is a thermal depolymerization process used to convert wet biomass into crude-like oil -sometimes referred to as bio-oil or biocrude- under moderate temperature and high pressure. The crude-like oil (or bio-oil) has high energy density with a low...

1:07 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis_oil

Pyrolysis oil

Pyrolysis oil, sometimes also known as biocrude or bio-oil, is a synthetic fuel under investigation as substitute for petroleum. It is obtained by heating dried biomass without oxygen in a reactor at a temperature of about 500 °C with subsequent cooling. Pyrolytic oil (or bio-...

anyway, that's also not the point. I think focusing on helping others ( and yourself ) to build local and 'eco' friendly products might be a good choice.

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definetly

Also there I noticed it's rather impossible to run a production and company 100% OS. There are too many tools and services needed (expensive but good), but yet. Universal knowledge might get us faster to a tipping point, it's requested even by govs., a population which could sustain itself.

"Prusa Printers" is getting close

1:18 AM

their products are 100% os short of maybe filament and resins. Definetly needs to reach a "critical mass" we are DEFINETLY pre-tipping point

1:19 AM

i think the internet, and maker community are killing copyright to a certain degree (not artist recognition/support mind you). Owning an idea, when it can be spread for (near) free via the internet

as said , production makes only 10-20% of the company, the rest is brutal, expensive and definitely not OS

eventually we're / me getting lost now trying to fix the world, the impossible

good nite

I'm discussing this over in #archived-collection , but do any collection sites do data logging of materials in, and composition?

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Forgive me for wading into this conversation and coming in at a tangent.. I have started setting up the first “Hub” schools in the UK. The schools that are going to be Hub Schools with their very own Precious Plastic Outlets will be based all over the UK to begin with. We have 329,000 eduCCate Global Schools in 40 plus countries. I want to get each and every one of them to set up a Precious Plastic Outlet in their community. These Hub Schools will need advice, guidance, support. What would you all suggest is the best way for us to go about doing this?

I am from Nepal. Here I am trying to work on plastic recycling. No machines available here. Can plastic recycling be done without a machine?

@rabin shah totally! Some people are able to create plastic objects with minimal amounts of tools.

hi everyone here from Zambia

4:33 PM

looking to set up Zambia's first collection point and more

#nepal

5:55 PM

#Nepal

5:56 PM

seems we don't have a nepal channel yet, may need to make one for you then! @rabin shah

5:57 PM

we do have #deleted-channel and #🍚india which may be somewhat nearby

5:59 PM

On the note of recycling without a machine @rabin shah you can melt the plastic into simple forms like blocks, and sheets, but more complex shapes can not be done. Also shredding without a shredder machine is difficult. (some do use paper shredders, and other setups, so feel free to read around and use one of their methods)

6:01 PM

@suribabulavangam seems we don't have a #Zambia channel yet either, so we need to set both of you up with that.

@Melanie I am trying to plot some more of this out. Not sure on educational material (PP does have some great videos). They have all the hardware covered, some of the educational stuff. I was plotting out some potential revenue (not profit, but just make sure these aren't money pits) methods such as a Curbside Collection Service

6:30 PM

Also was plotting out how to go about dealing with stuff from beach cleanups (some others doing great real life work with that)

Anyone know the pricing of the machines if we purchase directly from Precious Plastic? Waiting to get information from them but no luck just yet

Direct from precious plastic? Do you mean from the Bazzar, or from a specific site?

Maybe they mean the starterkits? https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/buy/beams.html

Buy a Beam Starterkit

Purchase a starterkit to make beams from recycled plastic from Precious Plastic HQ.

May be back later, but logging off for a bit

why isnt there a channel for Project Kamp? could be nice I think...

@Eric Lotze thank you

Does anyone make or sell plastic recycling machines at low prices?

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Excuse me, I'm new, and I want to see the blueprints of the basic Shredder, because i'm gonna build it. I do not know why i can not see anythig, maybe i suppose that the problem is the extension of the files. Please, could somebody help me?

Hullo Everyone! I am now online, so feel free to ping me ( @ ) if you have any questions etc

@Eric Lotze Please teach me how to make a plastic melting machine

which one?

Hi everyone, looking for someone in the UK to help me mold a item

5:24 PM

Obviously using recycled plastic

so mold design is the issue?

Got the design need product to be manufactured

ah

️ Hello everyone! just introducing myself. My name is pahbmax based in Hertfordshire, UK. Just joined precious plastics. Quite keen to get into injection moulding for my jewellery making. Still learning the ropes. Hope everyone is well and staying safe

@Eric Lotze Do you like coffee?

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yup

Nice

May be back later today, but logging off for a bit

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Hello everyone, what is the best safety mask you use when dealing with plastics? I make sheets so there's fumes, and then also cut and sand which has mircoplastics. My extraction fan does help with this alot but still, can't be to safe. Any tips on some good mask?

Hi everyone! The new guy from PuertoRico here

I could use a bit of help finding something I had seen in the website a few weeks back but dont remember where and can’t find it anymore. There’s an area that offers finding who to sell you plastic flakes overload to.

@Zero Plastics Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respirator#Chemical_cartridge

Respirator

A respirator is a device designed to protect the wearer from inhaling hazardous atmospheres, including fumes, vapours, gases and particulate matter such as dusts and airborne microorganisms. There are two main categories: the air-purifying respirator, in which respirable air i...

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6:07 PM

you want to get one of the "dual cartrige" masks with replacable cartrages

6:07 PM

most home improvement/tool stores should have them

6:07 PM

bit pricy, but they work great

be sure to get an organic particle filter

@davehakkens Do you have the pricing for your machines I have been having problems from hearing back from Precious Plastic on the cost. any help or guidance would be very apperciated

@DrizzyKing https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/overview.html ? (edited)

7:35 PM

Otherwise, you can buy machines made by the community directly on the bazar : https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/

https://youtu.be/gAkpFRBPenA

@Ley Klussyn thanks I should of been more clear in my question on being curious on pricing of the individual machine pricing

7:37 PM

I know there is some on the bazaar; however, I was wondering if Precious Plastic sells themselves

From what I know : The PP "kits" are ,well, kits made of various machines and other elements, crowdsourced with the help of the community (ie, PP doesn't make the machines themselves, they "aggregate" the elements, if that make sense). However they assure a more professional experience by selling "the whole package" (and other services) and not just individuals machines or diy machine kits. (edited)

7:42 PM

So, tl;dr, if you buy the machines from reliant producers on the bazar, you're basically doing the same thing but cutting on the middleman.

thanks for the information and I understand just Joseph from the Precious Plastic team mentioned he would reach out to me with the breakdown of pricing for the machines so waiting to hear from him and if he says anything different I will share with the group

May be back later today, but logging off for a bit

Did a quick check just now, now i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

TheCrafsMan SteadyCraftin

DIY Hard Molds - Simple Injection Molding, Push Molds - Resin and S...

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FYI, a cheap furniture polish will work as a mold release. We have used the Japan Home discount stuff and Pledge brand. Pledge brand however sprays out very fast.

would an oil based "nonstick spray" for baking etc (or perhaps the high temp tolerant "grill" ones) work well?

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Hello everyone

Hello

4:08 PM

I am an entrepreneur, looking for buying machines

Hullo Everyone! I am now online, so feel free to ping me ( @ ) if you have any questions etc

6:39 PM

@Deleted User go check the "Precious Plastic Bazaar" , if that doesn't work you can always hire local workers/machinists to build machines for/with you

Hola a todos, hi everyone

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

I'm soooo happy that there is a discord ^^ Hi everybody, I'm Gabriel Pinaffi from São Paulo - Brazil I'm a moreless a generalist designer and I'm here to help, so don't be afraid to talk to me

I speak portuguese, english and spanish :) Cheers!

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Hi guys

2:31 PM

We are trying to build the extruder but we have some. Doubts

2:31 PM

Anyone currently working with the pro version? We would love to know which rpms are you using to fill a beam mould or a brick mould

Guys i have a serious question for all us plastic recycling folk. What plastic do you see as being the most environment hitting problematic plastic?

fishing nets and fishing line imo

8:51 PM

or just marine debris in general

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I personally see it as a joint top position between babywipes, and PET

@Eric Lotze what are nets and lines made from what type of plastic?

Hi, new to this site! Looking to build an extruder and want to know what is the v4.2-30mm screw barrel made from?

hola....no entiendo como usar este foro. tengo unas preguntas puntuales sobre un producto que quiero hacer

1:01 AM

alguien puede ayudarme?

"what are nets and lines made from what type of plastic?" Among other things they are made from polyethylene, polyester, PVDC

Hello, good afternoon, can someone help me please. I am looking for the plans to build the injection machine and I cannot find them on the Precious Plastic page

Any South Africans?

looking to start plastic recyle in India (HYD)

Hey Everyone I am running a Kickstarter to make a how to detailing how to make skateboard decks using the precious plastic extruder. To keep up to dare please join my mailing list: www.mandin.earth/mailing-list https://youtu.be/fxgFJ72J0v4

Jason Knight

100% Recycled Plastic Open Source Skateboard Decks

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Hi everybody, My wife and myself are going to live on a sailboat as of next year. We will travel around the world and live as sustainable as possible. We will try to live out of remote work. Now as everybody here I think, we want to help our planet to get some really urgent environmental issues solved. Like the plastic we find EVERYWHERE . We want to be a part of this clean-up (the small impact we can make). When I found precious plastic I saw straight away the opportunities of how we can start recycling. Now we still have a long way to go with our business plan (needs to be ready end month) but I am searching help on how we can get plastic out of the ocean on the sailboat. My base calculation of what I think we could recycle yearly: Storage space 3 cubic metre: 150 kg (50kg shredded plastic = 1 cubic ) We are having around 100 stops yearly and want to recycle in 75 at least! Yearly volume: 11 ton recycled plus the shredding on sustainable energy All feedback is super welcome!! We can't wait to start. Lovely regards, Charlotte & Henry

I love sailing! What boat do you have?

Hi Eric, we are currently looking into two Hanse ! Secondhand one 385 or 415

nice!

German quality so we can rely on long usage!

so for plastic, odd to do with sailing (the whole zig-zagging and whatnot), but i'm thinking some sort of boom and winch system?

I see how you think, but how can the boom take the plastic? As we need to think about fish life as well

i need to dig for research on it, but they use shallow booms (10cm tops i think) so they are not too big of a deal for fish. My main concern would be how much a sailboat could pull, and all that math

Yes exactly but we are thinking to use as well plastic location maps so that we can see where there's a concentration of plastic. Pass by with a shallow boom with the calculation of what the boat could pull. As we have as well the max load of 150 kg. So need to find a way that the boom can indicate when we are almost full loaded

6:40 PM

we both can dive as well, So in some places we even will pick up by ourself

snorkel, and a line tied to a person

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And any input on how to install the shred on the boat?

shredder? Do you have a gas or electric motor i'm assuming (inboard or outboard?)

inboard

6:42 PM

electric will be with time

6:43 PM

but we want to use our engine as less possible

i love the concept of electric ones, way easier to fit, and move power around

6:43 PM

also m a i e n e n c e

so we are thinking now on a propeller / wind and sun

and battery mass can be GOOD on boats

Yes but the price...

y u p

That's the reason we want to save the first year as much possible to do then the transfo

how big is the electric setup on the boat

6:44 PM

"boats are a pit in the water you fill with money"

I have a better idea! A friend of me is almost ready with our electrical plan, if you want I can share it!

sure!

As the electrical part is now the one I am working personally on

6:45 PM

to understand better

also i was plotting an OS wind turbine (that will probably be cheaper ~~not sure on how it will hold up in a marine enviroment though lol~~ )

6:46 PM

you could use a human powered shredder too

6:46 PM

may be harder to fit cranks and whatnot

yes was looking into that as well

6:46 PM

haha

goofy idea: put the mechanical shredder on removable brackets that can be placed over a top hatch/window. Place it there when in use, plenty of space on deck, flakes fall below into a bin in the cabin (edited)

Wow good idea! But need to measure that and look deeper into it

6:50 PM

I was now thinking to build the mech. shredder into the deck where you enter straight the below sleeping cabin that will be used for storage of the plastic ( it's 2 meter deep 1.5 meter high 1.8 wide)

6:50 PM

only when we will do transits than we can't clean as we need to take storage with us

6:51 PM

So then when we take the plastic on board, it goes straight into the shredder en straight into the recycling compartments

6:51 PM

Also easy to unload at harbours

i need a photo / sketch or something to see where the storage is, but sounds good

6:59 PM

ALSO you could have a fabric tube to use as a ramp of sorts for pre-sorting the flakes? (ie tube to box a,b or c)

Great! Can I add you somewhere? If you want we can keep touch

I got to head off to a meeting and/or work. Will be back in 30 mins or so if it's a meeting, if i get a shift too, it will be ~9hrs

Anyone an idea of how much shredded plastic can go in one cubic meter?

Ooo mobile workspace

Yes exactly Katla! And help cleaning the ocean

love that

11:14 PM

that would be my ideal lifestyle, just traveling around on a boat and recycling

Yes exactly Katla! And help cleaning the ocean

@Stardust on the ocean Your main issue will be to power the shredder for ocean plastics you would need a minimum of 10 kW from our experience, 15-20 if you can.

What is the rough cost to setup a filament production line?

@Housane If you want to make money and do business > 4000 and for DIY and experimenting around 800. Those are the numbers I got.

Ok thanks

HULLO I recently got a job at wallmart, so i've been working 2:00-11:00, so not too active, but earning lots of m o n e e And the packaging often has silica gel desiccant packs so i am lowkey hoarding those, and may make a drybox and/or "humidity pump" with them.

good news!

I'm heading off to work, may be free tomorrow (will probably be too tired tonight, but may do a quick check)

Has anyone who has made plastic tiles tried using grout to affix the tiles to a surface? And if so how did this work? (edited)

Hi everybody! My name is Javier Delgado, I am a 24 yr old male student from Villarrica, a small town in the south of Chile. I study environmental engineering, and the problem in my country, though it seems developed, has no waste management implemented nation wide, only small efforts locally. That is why, when I heard of the Precious Plastic Movement, I too wanted to contribute my humble effort in the fight against the malicious consumerism society has succumbed, and the dangereous and disastrous impacts in the environment our ways of living have. I really hope I can be of any help, and wish I can find some guidance whenever I hit a difficult obstacle, wether is practical or even emotional, because climate change is looming on us terribly, and it kinda freaks me out sometimes. Anyway, I'll be around trying to be helpful and participative. Nos vemos amigos!

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Could you work with a university's to create collection points and work shop spaces xxx

Guys ive been thinking we may be missing a trick here. I work in an italien kitchen as a KP so all the sht jobs i get

that includes taking the trash out inc recycling. If my work has an average HDPE Accumulation we must look to our restraunts for regular plastic collections i reckon i could gain 2kg+ of pure HDPE and 1kg+LDPE everyweek and if my work pays for collections of waste weekly this could be the equivalent of at least 1 or more collections per month over 2 or 3weeks im thinking we could sell the idea of undercutting to save these companys money plus also take the waste from the general waste collectors (the money they save could be the money gained by us twice or more over 1 in collection 2 in resales) but here is the real boost for our pockets if we make the trashcans for the restraunts we could then charge them for the plastic they gave to us litterally buying back the plastic the gave to us for free (my work go through trash cans regualrly talking a new food waste trash can every few months just due to the general rough and tumble of the job) (edited)

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@Frederik C (ZA) , everything alright ? long time not seen, @Timberstar seems also off since too long and good old but young @Lazy_Turtle didn't write much else recently (btw. your last diagrams made some waves here at the end regarding the perfect PP recycling mile)

Our beloved & honest government released a new statement, lovely trump bashing : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpIkl2QnJeI&ab_channel=thejuicemedia, enjoy the ride

I'm watching

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I'm just busy with other projects

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https://discord.gg/kzuh89

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@Aldothegreen85 - what about PET bottles ? not a self promo but we designed a shredder for restaurants, supporting the mentioned new 'clean' waste stream (https://plastic-hub.com/products/asterix.html). was always wondering this actually makes sense, since it's a custom client work for now, only. @Lazy_Turtle - great to hear, what was the link again ? is it still bottlechain ?

@Deleted User my work dont have much in the form of PET (bottles in the front of house are glass, juice/mixer bottles from the bar are glass but are washed and refilled via HDPE canisters. Only a few staff members drink soda from a bottle most opt for mixer and soda water in a glass)

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just built a shredder and the injection plant

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works ok

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keep getting residue in the end of the injection device that cools - have to clean in out to screw in next mould

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is that what you all find too?

Hello everyone, I’m Sharon Lennon m, citizen of Mauritius and an entrepreneur in the recycling environment. We have recently faced an environmental tragedy on our island with the wrecking of MV Wakashio on our coastal reef, creating a massive oil spill. We made boom barriers and plastic bottles were used as floaters. Now they are covered with oil and we are looking for a solution to recycle these bottles. Can anyone help please. I wouldn’t want to have to let it in the sea or in one of our landfills.

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Hi I am new to this community. My name i Cassie and I live in New Zealand. I absolutely love this whole movement and all the enthusiastic around creating new beautiful products using recycled plastic. Its wonderful to see so many like minded people out there.

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I am also an artist and business owner for eco-friendly products. It would be so nice to connect with people who could potentially collaborate on a few product ideas with me. (edited)

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Hi @Cas Trad Art, and welcome!

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I'd be interested to hear what products you're offering, and ideas for future ones

@Cas Trad Art im working on a few prototypes just now if i manage to figure it all out it will change our plastic recycling empire in an awesome way. If we build it they will come.

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@Cas Trad Art glad to see you here!

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Hey good morning! Does anybody know if there is a discord channel for project kamp?

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not yet @Cedar, but it might be time for that!

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Good to know, I would really like to help with the project, I have a agricultural background and I would really like to help start up and learn more about the food production part of the project!

Hey. Just wondering. In this video, Peter "Bussig" (? I can't hear), is using a machine shop. What shop is that and how do you get access to them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-JFVo6BDA4

How to build a pro plastic extrusion machine

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Or is that just a guy that was hired to make a video of the making process, and he actually owns/is an employee at that place?

I went on snapchat on like the story section and "Home Insider" has a story titled "11 Ways To Make Your House Greener" that was posted earlier today. And like the third "way" is a precious plastic shredder? They did put dave's name up there but like was this something that ppl knew was happening?

@Isometric lets get in touch... I have a range of ideas but I'm currently looking for a team to help me make the products.

@Cas Trad Art I sent you a DM yesterday, my friend and I are interested in recycling and he's particularly interested in making art from some of the waste we find (not just plastic, but any kind of waste)

@Ree Peter-Bas is using his own machine shop. He developed the extruder as it is released theV4 version, and used his place for the building. He is selling machine on the bazar as well.

Okay. Just wanted access to one, somehow...

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wait.....

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I suppose he is for hire?

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How do I find out what his fees are?

@Ree I actually purchased v4 extruder parts from him, his rates are normal I would say and parts are of good quality, but making a v4 extruder is not cheap.

I'm thinking about hiring him for a different project. How can I get in touch with him?

@Ree https://pbsmachinery.com/ tel: +31650929866 and e-mail: peter-bas@pbsmachinery.com

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......Was the machine shop he used actually his?

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That's what I've been interested in. The machine shop.

@Ree I don't think you will be allowed to use his machine shop, if you need machines you could better look at schools or perhaps second hand machinery.

Was the machine shop he used actually his? Or is he just skilled in machining?

I just got a notification from TrashOut that World Cleanup Day is Sept 19th :o

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Its a Saturday so I could potentially work on the lake again

@Ree That is his as far as I remember + he is very skilled

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Hey guys

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Quick question : I would like to put a shredder + a grinder in a truck container

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do you think it is possible?

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Will I have enough space?

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this principle

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@Deleted User Yes. This was the premise of PP previous version, actually. (V3) https://preciousplastic.com/about/history.html You can learn more about the shredder workspace in the Academy, and adapt it to the rectangular space https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/spaces/shredder (edited)

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oh great!

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thx

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I wad wondering because on this place they recommend 5 x 6 meters and in my case I will have 6 x 2,43 m

Yeah you will be a bit "compressed" in the space, but it should fit. (Especially if you can use a bit of outside space when working)

ok cool thx Ley, you rock

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And sorry, last question, would you know if it is possible with the V4 SHREDDER PRO to add a sieve that would make 3-3,5mm flakes from PET bottles?

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I saw there was only "7mm" sieve

I wad wondering because on this place they recommend 5 x 6 meters and in my case I will have 6 x 2,43 m

@Deleted User Our workshop is that size and we have shredder, compression injection and extrusion plus the rest of a normal workshop. It is hard to maintain tidy but feasible. You have to plan your plastic storage somewhere else tho.

thx a lot

I am also an artist and business owner for eco-friendly products. It would be so nice to connect with people who could potentially collaborate on a few product ideas with me.

@Cas Trad Art Sure, lets touch base. From the UK

Hey guys, do you know if plastic bottles (PET) without caps, work on the SHREDDER PRO V4? Has anyone alraedy tried? If so, what is the rough kg/h production?

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Btw, I would like to have 3mm flakes on the SHREDDER PRO V4, is it possible? ON the website I thought they talked about 0 - 7mm

@Deleted User it should be doable, with a 4mm hole sleeve. But then the productivity drops a lot when you reduce the size. In the other hand plastic bottle are really easy to shred. You probably need to do it in 2 times : one without sleeve to roughly shred, and then loaf that on a sleeved shredder. What do you want to do with PET ?

Thx @Yann La Grenouille for your quick answer. Do you have an idea of the number of KG / h I would have with this reduced size? Just for my information, 4mm hole sleeve will make 3mm flakes? Or could I have a 3mm sleeve? (edited)

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then I will put it into resin for artistic purpose

Hey does anyone have an image or info on plastic types and their abilities or limitations? Looking for the main 7 types.

Hello there, Im in Bolivia and working on creating a PP workspace, My shredder will be ready soon (I hope). And as I can see it will be the first one here in Bolivia, so I wonder if I can get the name of "Precious Plastic Bolivia" ?? As I have seen some others PP acounts. Best Regards!

Hey does anyone have an image or info on plastic types and their abilities or limitations? Looking for the main 7 types.

@Aldothegreen85 have you checked the Academy? https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics

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Hi everyone,my name is razif from Malaysia.i'm one of the precious plastic members since 2017,and i'm working with recycled plastic to create a sculptural form and a few functional product.

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Hi Everyone, I'm Mike from the US. I've been following the initiative since Dave started publishing on Youtube, and really want to get more involved first to decrease my personal footprint, and possibly into a business later. One of my frustrations is the cost. The machines are gorgeous and functional, but they have reached the point that they cost more (At least the prices I see here in the US) than similar machines from China such as this https://www.amazon.com/INTBUYING-Plastic-Shredder-Machine-Granulator/dp/B07QF7ZF7R/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=plastic+granulator&qid=1597938233&sr=8-4 We need to decrease the cost of the machines to make it affordable to more people.

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I have a question regarding the plastic melting (softening)process before we compress (coldpress)Through out the process of making and dealing with plastic waste, I've been throwing with a question on the dangerous of plastic fumes that release when the process of soften(melting) take part before we compressing it.Can anyone here give some of your opinions and advise about this matter because in order to give a second life to the plastic waste, these are the technique that really effectual in making an artwork rather than assembling

Razif, My understanding (And I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong) is that the temperature that you are after that softens the plastic and allows it to adhere to itself (and other plastic particles) is low enough that there is no additional off gassing. Hotter temps that create fumes are actually burning the plastic.

Mushue, thanks for your quick feedback on my question..to be exact, when the plastic beings melt in the oven according to the soften point before compressing it.That means there is no fumes or gas release during that process?

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@pepe_trueno https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/yourlogo

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This is one of my sculpture.

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Hello! My English is bad! )) I am writing through a translator! If that excuse me! Would you like to know if there is such a plastic recycling project in Russia? And if there is, where?

@Aldothegreen85 have you checked the Academy? https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics

@Precious Plastic Delco cheers bud the 3 types of plastic i want to work with have poor UV resistance does this vary with the wall thickness of the plastic. Like thicker the wall better resistance or will the UV permeate the wall no matter the thickness?

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@Precious Plastic Delco cheers bud the 3 types of plastic i want to work with have poor UV resistance does this vary with the wall thickness of the plastic. Like thicker the wall better resistance or will the UV permeate the wall no matter the thickness?

@Aldothegreen85 I’m just learning the basics, so unfortunately don’t have the knowledge for you — check over in the #archived-plastic thread, you’re bound to find answers there if you post your question.

Ill drop a post in the #archived-plastic thread see if i can find out or if folks are willing to experiment if they dont know but cheers again for the first link it was exactly what i was looking for to help figure out some stuff.

hola alguien habla español y tiwene experiencia en hacer madera plastica?

Aloha! My name is Arthur and I live on the Island of Hawaii the Big Island in town called HILO. 2 years ago our local county discontinued collection for our plastic due to landfill is full. I have started a collection are via my own Garage at home. Another Precious Plastic group call PUNA PRECIOUS PLASTIC start about a year ago , which we plan to team up.

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Can someone please tell me how to locate the Melting charts for plastics on the PreciousPlastic.com website.. Also the template to make the labels for the types of plastics ..

@BIGISLANDPRECIOUSPLASTIC it’s on here! https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics

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hello, nice to see folks in Hawaii working on precious plastic projects, there’s a huge problem with plastic there

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I don’t live there, but I have a lot of relatives on Maui and I got my start in recycling after impulsively taking home a bunch of plastic litter I cleaned from a beach in Kauai (edited)

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oh and as for the label templates, I’m not sure but there’s the melt chart in the link, maybe someone else could help with that (edited)

hello My name is carlos and I couldnt find your PDF to make a shredder i checked your website and keep giving me an error would like to build it if you guys are kind to share thank you and much love also, im new to discord so i dont know if this is the right place to share much love and all of you guys are saints X

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download @justabro Shredder 2 or Shredder pro? (edited)

Hey all, i'm Nimer from Muscat, Oman. The all sub links on the website are not working.

Hello everyone - I am Radoslaw from Poland / Germany ( Berlin at this moment) I am building shredders my own models and precious plastics ones- my site : www.shredding.pl

yeah sorry mate but its not working it looks like all the links are down

@justabro here you go mate: https://github.com/ONEARMY/precious-plastic-kit/releases/download/V4.1/precious-plastic-kit.zip

Hi @malyboa, I took a look at your website and you're doing some interesting things! Check your messages.

Em little question where can you find out the volume needed of plastic to injection mould taking a guess the cad software could tell me the volume removed?

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Grams to cm square?

‍♂️?

Yep, fusion360 can do it, not sure about other software.

Is there a map of the network anywhere? I'm trying to see what we have in Florida.

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NVM, I found the US server

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day.

@WallHaxx https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

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@Aldothegreen85 If you have the 3D-Geometry of the part+spue!, you can measure the volume. Look into your preferences, what units you have (or you can see the unit in your measurement) Also have a look here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/create/injection-moulds (edited)

Community site is down

@Precious Plastic Hi I have a question, could it be that the website has issues on the moment? I wanted to go to the community section to make an How-to but I cant access it?

@Leendert yes we are working out the problem. Thanks for your patience!

Hi everyone - I'm interested to know if it is possible to upcycle fishing nets with Precious Plastic! No conclusive answers on website or internet. Will shredder work? Thanks in advance.

why, for example, 75 percent of the plastic is not recycled in belgium. this is a problem, but what is the problem with the plastic waste that is not recycled. why why why. if we know this, we can look for a suitable solution. Does anyone have an explanation for this or where can I find more information about this? greetings De Bartjes

@De Bartjes bud from what i know its duel or multi mix plastics. Making it almost impossible to process or its cost ineffective think this is why i suggested fusing plastic bags together to make a board then shred the board to make chips/flakes to then flow it back into manufacture as hdpe. But the main issue we have is unidentifiable plastics (not yet recycled) makes my blood boil why cant these plastics be marked on it next to the not yet recycled logo? The recycling system has crater sized holes in it and no one seems to be trying to fix it.

@WallHaxx should be fixed now! Let us know if it still doesn't work for you

Hello, I beg you to excuse me for my english, thanks google translate. I would like to understand how to be integrated on the map as a Collector for the moment. I want it to evolve but it takes time. I am in Reims (France). Who can redirect me? thanks

Hey @fab' Nuiko you can create a profile + pin as Collection Point on https://community.preciousplastic.com

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Hello everyone

I'm Trinidad from Berlin, I would like to start a workspace at my studio, its pretty big so I think would be enough space for that, since I'm new here I would like to hear your opinions and to know if is more people from Berlin working on this project, Thanks!

Thanks @Kat it's check

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@fab' Nuiko You can also check the french PP-Discord. Tu peux jeter un coup d'oeil sur le discord francais: https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn

Invite to join a server

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety

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Guys, can someone point me to 3D files of PP machines? Want to import them to Autodesk Revit. (edited)

Hello everyone I am going to start a unit in India is there anyone who can provide me assistance

@trinidad Yes, there is a workspace in Berlin. „Recycle on the spot“ Check our the map.

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@Danish Checked out the #🍚india channel?

Hi, did the community ever look into the health risks related to reheating plastic ? It feels like no one adressed that yet

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ah, nevermind, found it

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Hi all ! Adrien from Rouen, Normandy, France. I would like to set up a precious plastic association in Rouen. If people in Rouen and the surrounding area already have a project or wish to set up something with me, please contact me.

Hi all! I am trying to develop a recycled plastic injection molded welly boot or ideally a bioplastic one. Can anyone help who lnow more about suitable materials and plastics? I would be very excited to talk to you! Thankyou!

Hi @Gemma I don't think people do elastomers in precious plastic but I might be wrong.

Can anyone lead me in a direction to find information about testing this recycled plastic for harmful material.. if I make a cup out of shredded plastic, if a consumer drinks out of it. Will they be safe. Also what about that cup breaking down over time. Releasing micro plastic... will that consumer be drinking micro plastics?

Hello @Cheecho , a cup would be considered to be a "food-grade" product and in that sense requires a lot of specifics. THE concern is the different additives present in the schredded products you use in the first place. Sadly you could only do it if you always use shredds from a food-grade product (and always using the same product). Once the plastic is in solid form, it is considered to be stable, so you shouldn't have concerns about the microplastics. It's really on the concern of additives (which migrate out of the products) which can be harmful. Please take this info seriously. If you DO want to explore that, you would HAVE to go and test your product in a lab to know for sure if the additives on your recycled products are safe for "food-grade"

Hello I'm Devin. I'm a Mushroom farmer with an expanding business and questions about recycling PP grow bags. Thanks for having me and sharing cool ideas that aid people in recycling (edited)

hello there! can someone help me, how can i get just the right amount of plastic for my molds? im trying not to waste any

thanks yall, keep up the good work!

I can give a bit of a sense of scale. My polypropylene coasters are 60g and they wind 10cm in diameter and one cm tall (edited)

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Plastic shrinks a lot, especially if you’re using food containers as your source (edited)

Thanks now i have an idea on where i should start (edited)

np! oh and one more thing, maybe take the density of the plastic type and the area of the object you want to make to figure out how much you need

Thanks ill have a look tommorow

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i am new to this platform. I want to start a personal project to make golf tees from HDPE bottle caps. But I need to find a mold. Any advice?

@jetfuelburner Ask @Fritz @easymoulds

He can produce and design nice moulds. (edited)

Hello I'm Karen from Hong Kong, now based in Amsterdam

I'm working on a sustainable X'mas tree project where we would like to recycled materials for the decorations. We have a huge amount of acetate, and wonder if anyone has experience if they could be recycled please?

@0xchankalun | Lil BOB Do you mean acrylic? Also form is it- sheet, chips, etc?

@0xchankalun | Lil BOB do you know what kind of acetate? there are a few and you might have to check from your source to narrow it down. (edited)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylate_polymer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poly(methyl_methacrylate)

and some types can be pretty volatile, so upcycling via craft vs. heating and forming might be an option.

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Is anyone selling a manual shredder or recommends a good one to buy? We are thinking of a project involving education and children so we want a light weight machine without a motor so the children can have a go in shredding small amounts of lids. Ive seen some on the bazar but not sure which ones are trustworthy. Im in Australia so I would also have to account for shipping. Thanks!

@bruna https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/shredder/shredder-fully-built/shredder-ce-certified-community-version-clone/

Manual Shredder - CE certified

Thanks @Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto

what you think... add on a barrel, heaters and you got a low cost extrusion machine?

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The french community is starting to get organized ! French National NGO "Precious Plastic France" was created in March 2020, we decided to meet up this past weekend to continue working on our organization, defining it's mission & values, ecosystem, activities, challenges, legal, branding. More coming up soon :D (PP Touraine @christophe PPTouraine , Rehab @Rehab PP Quimper - Nico , Resak @Deleted User @Hélène , 9life, Div-0 @IvarTheBoneless , Recycle et Moi @Nick - PP France , M.&Mme Recyclage, Hello Waste @Romain - hello waste , Le Recycleur Fou @Landry , Anga, IDLV @Deleted User , Johé Bruneau @johé bruneau , Hyla Surf @Yann and a few PPHQ visitors :D ) (edited)

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Does anyone know where how I can get in contact with precious plastic directly via email?

Copypasted: 1. Individual feedback / help Precious Plastic is currently not able to offer individual feedback on machine building, product design, business or personal ideas. We are a foundation with limited resources and we simply don't have the manpower to do this. For this kind of inquires you can use Discord or ask the community. 2. Read our FAQ Do you have a question? We have extensive and up-to-date (trying) Frequently Asked Questions where we try to answer the most common questions. We will not respond to emails that have their questions answered in the FAQ. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/support/faq 3. Email us If none of the above apply to you we're happy to receive your emails. hello@preciousplastic.com (edited)

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Copypasted: 1. Individual feedback / help Precious Plastic is currently not able to offer individual feedback on machine building, product design, business or personal ideas. We are a foundation with limited resources and we simply don't have the manpower to do this. For this kind of inquires you can use Discord or ask the community. 2. Read our FAQ Do you have a question? We have extensive and up-to-date (trying) Frequently Asked Questions where we try to answer the most common questions. We will not respond to emails that have their questions answered in the FAQ. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/support/faq 3. Email us If none of the above apply to you we're happy to receive your emails. hello@preciousplastic.com

@Lazy_Turtle THANK YOUUU

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Hey everyone! I was just wondering if the Bazar is a safe, good place to get machines. Has anyone had any problems? I’m hoping to get a PETBOT, and just want to make sure. Thanks!

@KaiFromCanada I looked up the PETBOT link on Bazar and see several things that I like. Actual photos of the machine, with a gallery of process photos and results. With all of the upheaval going on around the world, I would definitely suggest reaching out to the seller and starting a conversation, get to know them, and ask your most important questions to them. Fwiw its worth that looks like a very crafty machine and I want to make one.

Hey Guys i have a question for folks that have a sheet press machine. has anyone tried to make patterns using metal strips for keeping the coloured pieces separate while loading the sheetpress? Think of them like metal cookie cutters on a big scale but rather than cut with them you use them to keep parts separate while loading and then carefully remove the cutter before pressing.

That sounds like a cool idea @Aldothegreen85

Hello! I'm Luka, an undergrad Mechanical engineer studying in Canada. I'm doing some research this Fall about 3D printing with recycled materials, and in my search for knowledge I came across this discord. Anyone know the best place on this server to ask questions about making recycled filament for FDM 3D printing?

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@L.P.M #deleted-channel #archived-plastic and #archived-machines might be the best spots. There have been quite a few of conversations starting up about that.

Thanks!

Going to Amsterdam for a business trip, all relating to recycled plastic and wanted to know if you knew of anyone to go and see whilst I'm there... Or any cool activities relating to plastic I can visit/see ?

@Aldothegreen85 I think I sent u a pm heheh sorry just new here and figuring how to make a firt post.

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@L.P.M will your research be available online for browsing? :)

Guys how do you change the colour of the names in discord i wanna make my name green?

@alexam it may be quite a while before anything gets published, but if I can remember I'll be sure to leave a link to it here

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@Aldothegreen85 It depends on your role : Blue for workspace, green for community points, pink for member,...(as set in #🖐start-here) Join the community points team

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@CitSciWorkshop Thanks for the response! I reached out to the seller, and he provided many pictures and videos of the product. It looks pretty good to me!

@Ley Klussyn thanks bud i thought there was a colour change option for asthetics only. must have been tired when i set up my account lol

Im interested in building the extrusion machine to be used at home. can anyone advise me on the specifications of the motor to look for ?

Apparently I don't have permission to post in #starthere

I just joined here. I am in Gisborne, New Zealand. I have a working V1 shredder and I am getting ready to build an Injection Machine. At the stage of choosing and ordering the temperature controllers, relays and heater bands. I need to source the tube (Aluminium about 30-35 mm ID) before I select the heaters, obviously. I intend to make mine wall mounted - on a post secured to a wall.

LOL look at my icon rotated -90°!

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Apparently I don't have permission to post in #starthere

@Ross Marsden #🖐start-here is just for a info page and you can choose your role. So you can´t post there ;) Welcome! Nice, that you built the shredder. Happy recycling;) Is there a question in your second post? Good luck! Don´t use Aluminium for the injection-tube! Use a stell tube with good quality.

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Hi I am trying to upload an How-to but it stops after Step images all the time (see screenshot). Is there someone who can give me advise with this. Either publishing or save draft doenst work. And I also tried it after a reboot of my browser. I let the browser carry on for a couple of hours but without any succes...

Hey i am about to break ground on a startup that will harvest ocean plastic to sell to companies to make a new generation of ocean plastic products. We will harvest and process in Kenya with a sales team in the UK. Nice to meet you all. I am currently on the hunt for shredder blueprints.

Hi guys, I'm all new here in Precious Plastic universe. I love the whole idea for almost two years now, but going to participate only this year. My plan is to start a small mix workspace in Slovakia, I already have some questions, but first I will search for an answers here. Looking forward to get to know at least some of you and hoping to be a part of this awesome world.

Hello All. Im new here but not new to Precious Plastic. I just made my fist post on Discord on #deleted-channel. I think my posts would be more related to that topic but im also into other developments topics. By now I've build up my Discord Account creating some servers and adding quiet some information on the servers however, I dont have friends so I dont even know if you can see what I've done so far and I would like to ask for some feedback and some assistance on how to make my profile more efficient. I have just rented a big house in South Spain in a town called Galaroza. this house will be my next adventure . Everyone is welcome to visit and collaborate. I also would love to visit and collaborate with other projects. Either online or with physical presence I would like to know more about random projects happening anywhere. this is too fascinating. Thanks to all of you for being such an inspiration.

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@magi SVK hi there. Im almost on the same spot as you. I know about Precious Plastic since 2017 and just now im officializing my relationship L0L 3 weeks ago I sign my new rental contract of a bi house in South Spain when I intend to have 2 workshops . Im open to share ideas and sustain a community around tis topic. Take a look at me post on #deleted-channel and good luck :0)

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Um olá do Brasil!

@imgeonvs Ola. de onde no Brasil? No momento estou na espanha mas com projetos em mente para Sao Paulo Fortaleza e Belem, quem sabe Minas Gerais tbm. mas td pra 2022.

@Sargasso oh nice! There are not many places that actually repurpose ocean plastic yet, most just clean it and throw it away.

indeed im hoping to be early to market with this

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the prescious plastic website used to have blueprints, now it seems to only have videos. I was wondering if you guys know a source for blueprints?

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the bicycle shredder seems amazing

Anyone happen to have a good method for taking labeling stickers off of detergent bottles (these seem to be the hardest to remove)

@Pat Salami Hot water is normally used for taking labels out of glass. maybe it uses too much water and you will spend also on heat consumption which makes it unsustainable. if you have a great quantity of bottle maybe its worth making a barrel to cook it. Cutting the entire part out should lead you to have enough if it to the point you find a different use just for that part.

I am from Nepal. Here I am trying to work on plastic recycling. No machines available here. Can plastic recycling be done without a machine?

@rabin shah During the quarantine I exercise both my hands with a good pair of scissors. I bought this kitchen scissors and they are still good after 8 months of daily use. cutting plastics of all types for at least 1 hour a day.

I'm soooo happy that there is a discord ^^ Hi everybody, I'm Gabriel Pinaffi from São Paulo - Brazil I'm a moreless a generalist designer and I'm here to help, so don't be afraid to talk to me

I speak portuguese, english and spanish :) Cheers!

@gpinaffi Hi Gabriel. Im Also Brazilian. at the moment im building a base here in South Spain but I also have projects set fr Sao Paulo Fortaleza and Belem. What do u do there in Sao Paulo?

or just marine debris in general

@Eric Lotze I Know the guys at montemero.eu they do monthly dives to collect plastic from greehouses (embernaderos) near Almeria/Murcia border in the south of Spain. this material is trashed in landfill before some rain drag it down to the Mediterranean sea. Its a tough material to deal with because lots or earth (dirt) is rapped within and also algae gets into it. However I think they are finding what to do with it.

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Hey Everyone I am running a Kickstarter to make a how to detailing how to make skateboard decks using the precious plastic extruder. To keep up to dare please join my mailing list: www.mandin.earth/mailing-list https://youtu.be/fxgFJ72J0v4

@jasonknight do you use any metal skeleton for supporting the impacts?

Jason Knight

100% Recycled Plastic Open Source Skateboard Decks

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Hi everybody, My wife and myself are going to live on a sailboat as of next year. We will travel around the world and live as sustainable as possible. We will try to live out of remote work. Now as everybody here I think, we want to help our planet to get some really urgent environmental issues solved. Like the plastic we find EVERYWHERE . We want to be a part of this clean-up (the small impact we can make). When I found precious plastic I saw straight away the opportunities of how we can start recycling. Now we still have a long way to go with our business plan (needs to be ready end month) but I am searching help on how we can get plastic out of the ocean on the sailboat. My base calculation of what I think we could recycle yearly: Storage space 3 cubic metre: 150 kg (50kg shredded plastic = 1 cubic ) We are having around 100 stops yearly and want to recycle in 75 at least! Yearly volume: 11 ton recycled plus the shredding on sustainable energy All feedback is super welcome!! We can't wait to start. Lovely regards, Charlotte & Henry

@Stardust on the ocean You should check monteero.eu I was there with them in June. they are experiencing with monthly dives to collect plastic from greenhouse farms that end up in the Sea. They are base in San Juan de los Terreros right on the border of Almeria/Murcia in Spain. I dont know if this is one of yours stop but for sure you can recycle with them. they have all the machines from shredder to 3d printing and they are investing on new machines. They can also help you with diving kits and boat issues.

And any input on how to install the shred on the boat?

@Stardust on the ocean

I am also an artist and business owner for eco-friendly products. It would be so nice to connect with people who could potentially collaborate on a few product ideas with me.

@Cas Trad Art Hi I was thinking before even joining Discord how an interact network of product creators could exchange they made products and being able to analyze each other's issues and therefore becoming closer and exchanging solutions. Im not producing anything yet but I would like to buy one of each available product made by anyone

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Good to know, I would really like to help with the project, I have a agricultural background and I would really like to help start up and learn more about the food production part of the project!

@Cedar im into a similar topic for developing recycling for small agriculture properties.

Hi everyone,my name is razif from Malaysia.i'm one of the precious plastic members since 2017,and i'm working with recycled plastic to create a sculptural form and a few functional product.

@razif I decided I want to support artists by buying the artwork and create an art exhibition. I just start the planning but I dont know when I will have enough money to buy enough products to exhibit. Im also creating a working /collecting station. will be happy to exchange products once Im start having my pieces.

Hi Everyone, I'm Mike from the US. I've been following the initiative since Dave started publishing on Youtube, and really want to get more involved first to decrease my personal footprint, and possibly into a business later. One of my frustrations is the cost. The machines are gorgeous and functional, but they have reached the point that they cost more (At least the prices I see here in the US) than similar machines from China such as this https://www.amazon.com/INTBUYING-Plastic-Shredder-Machine-Granulator/dp/B07QF7ZF7R/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=plastic+granulator&qid=1597938233&sr=8-4 We need to decrease the cost of the machines to make it affordable to more people.

@michael t shue studios you don't need the machine to start reducing your footprint. I spent 200 days without throwing any of my "garbage". It matched with the quarantine time so it was more like a thing to do while in lockdown. trust me you can learn a lot from plastic types by dealing with you personal garbage with your own hands. I went extreme and was also doing all elements of my consumption habits. metal can, paper boards, kitchen waste. you can start with the plastic. I suggest categorizing them by product type. make sure you keep them clean. once you accumulate a good quantity of the same product's package you can use scissors to reduce the space it occupies. I had just a kitchen scissors that I bought for 10 euros. I'm still using it for plastic and vegetables. Here in Spain I like the 1kg yogurt buckets. they are good for categorizing each type and they have a sealed cover so you don't splash it if you drop. hehehe I happened to me a few times. they are also nice because they fit into each other. I call them "friendly packages" the large tuna cans also falls into the same category I will share some pictures on my Servers soon. I'm new here and still setting my profile up. cheers

@BIGISLANDPRECIOUSPLASTIC Aloha Arthur. ArthurAloha here. L0L. thats funny

Hello everyone

I'm Trinidad from Berlin, I would like to start a workspace at my studio, its pretty big so I think would be enough space for that, since I'm new here I would like to hear your opinions and to know if is more people from Berlin working on this project, Thanks! @trinidad Hi there. I used to live in Berlin now im in Spain. I still have my apartment there which I rent but at some point in a soon future I would like to turn it into a working station too.

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Hello everyone I am going to start a unit in India is there anyone who can provide me assistance

@Danish Hey there. Im also starting soon maybe we can do mutual support.

Plastic shrinks a lot, especially if you’re using food containers as your source

@Rai do you mean plastic food containers such as sliced cheese packages?

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i am new to this platform. I want to start a personal project to make golf tees from HDPE bottle caps. But I need to find a mold. Any advice?

@jetfuelburner thats an interesting product. here in Andalucia-Spain there are a lot of plastic from farmers and a lot of golf courses. where are you based?

nah more like solid containers, not wrappers. I just mean that you can get a lot of relatively large objects into a small space when melted.

what you think... add on a barrel, heaters and you got a low cost extrusion machine?

@Butte (PP Philippines) do you mean shredding and extruding at the same time. I thought of that machine for extrusion before but now looking at the picture I realized there's some shredding going one there. It seams reversed for the purpose we want. Maybe you have to have some heating resistance going around the the outcome. Thanks for sharing

indeed im hoping to be early to market with this

@Sargasso do you know montemero.eu ? they do monthly sea plastic collection on the Almeria / Murcia Coast in Spain. the region has a lot of plastic coming from greehouse farms.

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@Deleted User got it.

yeah i've heard that those guys exist, but i never got they name

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thanks, i will follow on twitter

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also fully aware of those problematic farms

Hi. I m from Cuba. It is possible to add Cuba ?

Hello, everyone here. I am new here

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Am from Nigeria

@arthuraloha yeah sure

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto Apart from the Bill-of-Materials saying so, what is the problem with using Aluminium tube for Injection ?

@Ross Marsden It’s too soft, so it will be leaky after time.

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto OK, I will reconsider.

@arthuraloha Grid Scale WTE is my favorite for these "unrecyclables", if this is not available, small scale pyrolysis may be an option, but needs developlemt

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"hazlechem" is doing some great work, i made some ose page. My main concern is flue gas scrubbing, and handling the nasties you get (essentially crude oil or just lots of hydrocarbon intermediates you don't want to spill lol)

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

yeah i've heard that those guys exist, but i never got they name

@Sargasso They manage to design some hexagonal forms that would stay on to of water tanks which avoid water evaporation. I think with that solution they caught the attention from the farmer and it reduces water loss in 80%. now the farmers are more open to discuss plastic issues as they found a financial solution within the problem they were creating. now they are willing more to give away the plastic before the rain take it to the ocean

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where would be the best to pic to find information about machine maintenance #archived-machines ?. As im starting building a space I plane to have at least 1 of each machine of the chain from grinding to 3Dfillament making to designing to 3D Printers and of course built the machines also for reselling eventually. I'd also be interested to become some sort of Mechanic for machine owners. I guess at this stage everyone who owns a machine is their own mechanic but Im planning a long term when machines evolve some 4 or 5 generations and things get more compact. I wish to see these machines as a home appliance.

Hey guys, I'm new to this platform. I'm looking for bioplastic as packaging for cosmetics. Can you suggest a company or a person who can help?

@Pat Salami Hot water is normally used for taking labels out of glass. maybe it uses too much water and you will spend also on heat consumption which makes it unsustainable. if you have a great quantity of bottle maybe its worth making a barrel to cook it. Cutting the entire part out should lead you to have enough if it to the point you find a different use just for that part.

@arthuraloha We just use a heat gun. Spread heat all around it, and you can see the glue bubbling up a bit under the label. Just takes a minute or so per bottle. Then it's super easy to peel off.

Hi all Just introducing myself, I'm Jeremy from wales in the United kingdom. I am an electrical engineer by trade with experience in some major industrial companies. My first goal will be to design a grinder. Once trials prove successful I will be looking to sell to the community. Looking forward to doing my part!

just extrusion. we remove the cutting blades, and the die, machine a adapter to connect the extrusion screw to the meat screw, and it just fits in the existing mount like a flange..

@arthuraloha

@Jez Ahoj

What plans do you have for shredder? Or a grinder for “powder”?

@arthuraloha

@Butte (PP Philippines) looking forward to see the result.

I plan to design a machine that can be used from domestic power supply, additional safety features so it can be used at home. @Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto

Hi mi name is Armando im from Mexico

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i cant get in my account of the precious plastic

@Butte (PP Philippines) looking forward to see the result.

@arthuraloha may be awhile, so many other projects going on here. cnc plasma table build, a metal foundry, and new compression molds for plastic pots.

Hi all, new on here. I run a charity working in rural Zimabawe. Looking to set up a plastic reycling community project there. Has anyone produced these machines to run on solar power as we have no mains electric? can use generator but not cost effective. Thanks

@Ratidzo Edited as not accurate CF @Butte (PP Philippines) remark bellow (edited)

@Ratidzo depends of the machine, one can imagine that with a VFD you can control a 3 phase motor and supply it with DC. I would expect that you need at least 3KW (6 large monocryst panels). Certainly more panels, the better. You would also need a set of batteries to buffer the voltage variation. Or you buy a fancy inverter but you would not really gain compared to a generator in this case. Depends how much it costs where you are.

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland VFD do not convert DC to AC.

Does anyone know a way to get the bazaar to sort by nation? I wouldn’t want my kit to be flying halfway around the world!

Facebook has wrongfully flagged our page as a scam. no way to get ahold of anyone to clarify it.

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@Sidequest Co https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/seller-map/ (the best way i know...)

All Sellers

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Hi all Just introducing myself, I'm Kalyani from India. I am Mechanical Engineer. Looking forward to doing my part!

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I am looking forward to start this community in my country i.e India I need help and guidance.

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland VFD do not convert DC to AC.

@Butte (PP Philippines) I thought I could supply mine with DC... I am confused

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@Butte (PP Philippines) OK I have dreamed it, no idea why I thought the inverter was able to eat DC

Hey guys I remember seeing someone trying to make buttons for clothes on here but am unable to find it, does anyone have a link or know the post I'm talking about? I have a friend who wants to start making buttons for his business, any help would be appreciated

@Zero Plastics Australia https://www.instagram.com/p/B9GnYlcIt4e/

easymoulds

Beautiful buttons made from old crates and used flower pots. From this mould we made 150parts/hour with a manual @realpreciousplastic v3 injection machine! The large sprue is shredded directly in the process. #noplasticwaste Design by: @brunowindt for @preciousplasticsamos...

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nice!

Hello I'm looking for a specialized compression mould something like this

@Zero Plastics Australia Also here: https://www.instagram.com/p/B-r90Uuq5IG/?igshid=11hhxkuonm8z8

kunststoffschmiede

Today we tested our fancy new button mould! . . #kunststoffschmiede #preciousplastic #recycling #plasticwaste #button

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NICE!

https://youtu.be/lxF4if9Eub8 thecrafman has a new mold making tutorial

TheCrafsMan SteadyCraftin

An injection mold made from RESIN and METAL powder.

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https://youtu.be/RMjtmsr3CqA

engineerguy

Plastic Injection Molding

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I need a better compression brick mold...in this size

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anyone know why this design was not tried first? the design will not be exactly like this because we need draft to de-mold but seems like a really simple brick to make with the compression mold and extrusion machine

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and for bonding maybe we can make some HDPE or LDPE glue stick for hot melt glue gun?

@Butte (PP Philippines) this design seams still quiete similar to the current one. Draft and slightly bigger wak thickness will be needed fo sure for unmolding and assembly. You might also need some reinforcement in the middle. Then I would say the design 1/3, 2/3, 3/3 bricks is more standard in the building industry, but the 1/2, 2/2 will require less mold. Also being fully hollow like a tube will let you use a structure in the middle if needed and pour insulation once the wall is finished, but it might be trickier by compression.

i was thinking that it could be bonded very easily by drilling a hole thru it on the edge so as to go thru two blocks, then inject hot LDPE into the hole to bond it like hot melt glue. and with a hot melt glue gun

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apparently it exists. maybe just hot melt glue the thing together and skip the holes?

update. testing hdpe with hot melt glue now

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update 2 HDPE with hot melt glue WORKS!

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but not super strong. Unsure if the silicone mold release is affecting it.

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I think I need to make some LDPE glue sticks and maybe some HDPE glue sticks. unsure if my glue gun can reach the melt temp for HDPE. However this things up a bigger possibility.

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boats made from lego style construction? and HDPE?

we maybe need a sort of hot melt glue gun that uses HDPE flake? Similar to the 3d printer extruder that uses pellets? something like this could open up a bigger world of fabrication. As I have found that using the hot air plastic weld gun is not getting me the results desired, and the soldering iron is also not getting me the desired results. Maybe for building with blocks one could use a soldering iron for a building applicaitn like a wall, but likely not for marine applications? More research is needed

like this...

@Butte (PP Philippines) tis' an awesome idea. As a alternative i thought of something like this, but instead of cartridge, you put in a tube with heater bands/coil, filled with flakes. Not sure if it would work though. On the other hand, tubes could be filled and pre-heated before use?

@Butte (PP Philippines) are these bricks for external or internal use?

Reason im asking is if its an internal use you could base it around lego duplo it would allow a mass amount of blocks both made and repurposed ive been developing a brick system for internal walls that use securing rods which could be based around an m6 bar. Then using an injection mould of a m6 bar you can screw the wall in sections a bit like underpinning the wall in plastic (if you also attach an m6 bolt to the floor you can screw the wall to the floor giving better security with positioning) if applicable you could also place tie straps (injection moulded plates which tie one wall to another allowing recycled PET insulation to be placed between the wall skins)

The extrusion guns exist already but are pricy (c. 1500-2000). They are used already to repair boast or large tanks. They are loaded with rods. The rods are also very expensive. I have a couple of friends having pioneer boats here and they could be interested either in having cheap rods or a cheaper system all together. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.tGyLQx58TZzcN1Ek61h_fgHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1

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Hey @Butte (PP Philippines) nice brick concept. I saw you were wondering why the design you showed was not tested first. Let me explain a little. We wanted to use the extrusion process cause this was quicker (time vs cost) and this meant we needed good draught angles on the internal of the brick. So that adjusts the internal form vs your image. Next we needed to reduce the plastic volume as much as we could due to the real world price of PP & HDPE being expensive when compared to other materials (at €0.9 per KG). Our target price here was as close to a concrete hollow block. So we removed any plastic that wasn't structural. This is why we have only teeth at the top vs a surface. This also meant that the bricks were hollow, allowing us to fill them with sand (for thermal mass & fire) or insulation. However if you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to send me a message! I know the brick isn't perfect and am happy to answer any questions that lead to a refined design!

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Hi everyone a new user from australia. Just starting to experiment with plastic and have found that i need to shred the plastic to get good results . Has anyone found a good shredder for small scale Without either biulding the precious plastic one orgoing industrial?

Did you also try the friction stir welding method for joining peices?

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ALSO how did we feel about the whole microplastics/fire hazard/uv degradation/heat vs strength issues of plastic in structual use?

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(granted for geodesic domes plastic is great imo)

hi guys i've not found blueprints of Shredder Machine on a website can you help me pls??? (edited)

Hi @shadowmozzy Start here and click through to what you need. https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/overview.html Basic or Pro size shredder?

Precious Plastic Recycling Machines

Discover the different Precious Plastic machines that help people recycle plastic around the world.

basic size

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yea i was on this site and have not found info

Here is the download page for pretty much everything. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

thank you very very super much

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where are you from btw?

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Here is the download page for pretty much everything. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

@CitSciWorkshop it is blueprints ?

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

It Includes blueprints, CAD, BOM etc. I'm in USA!

wow i am from Russia

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спасибо (thanks)

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i wanna start business here becouse recycling plastic in russia is very unpopular

We're on the edge of something very new, so good for you to begin pioneering the effort!

thx

> @magi SVK oh that looks awesome... I kept visualizing a caulk gun but never occourred to me to actually use a caulk gun itself.

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@magi SVKWhat if we had that as a sort of portable injection molder?

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> @Rory - Sustainable Design Studio My block is hollow, the solid rendering does not come off so well. It is 5mm wall all the way around. I struggled with the original lego block design as it does not look suited for compression molding without messing with ejection pins. so I came up with this simplified one. Also have not added in draft yet. (edited)

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Likely will not be able to send this mold for laser until get more shredder sales. The local economy has really tanked. No sales in weeks.

The compression molder is getting yet another upgrade. Have been struggling with pumping water thru the mold. The heat exchanger is working awesome, but the outside of the mold during production is still very hot to the touch. Water flow thru the system is very slow despite using the largest aquarium pump I could find. I also had a 1/8hp submersible pump (60usd) that was overheating hence back to the aquarium pump. However now biting the bullet so to speak and going with larger automotive coolant hose, larger fittings, and a half hp real water pump of the kind used to boost home water systems. I also will add in a proper power switch and digital thermometer to the system vs just plugging the thing in the outlet. All in all the investment for the entire machine is less than a thousand dollars so far. The ability to grab a blob of hot plastic with the silicone spatula from the extrusion machine, put in the compresison molder and pop out a 215 gram item in 2.5 min is amazing. It is like glass making combined with forging, combined with hard sugar candy making all in one.

i think to test the concept first before building the machine is to use some of my sheets that are pressed, and extrude hot plastic in the gap to see how well it will bond, hot hdpe to cold hdpe.

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for injecting a shot of hot plastic into a hole as a plug, then shear forces come into play,

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like a pin

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to keep blocks from seperating

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but as a butt weld (pardon the pun) more data is needed.

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(also my name is pronounced as "beaut" like the city in Montana or the type of mountain. )

fyi... some compression molding video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXxGqNzAry8

SWATFYP

Compression molding

@Butte (PP Philippines) in fact some of those guns are made of aluminium tube, I have one also, so maybe it could be possible to use it, after some changes of course.

Under "Compression", it says "The development of this machine is discontinued", is there any current/future replacement for it?

another question: has there been any research done on recycled plastic regarding how safe it is to store/contain food/water in? Guessing it depends on what additives the recycled plastics have, so would probably need some sort of analyzer for the plastic material you plan to use before labelling things safe for food/water storage

yeah you have to get it certified as food grade

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will will mean no residual toxic additives

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its a giant process but if you reckon you are safe you can get it done

hello guys . im from philippines. can anyone help me building Precious Plastic Injection wirings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtZv96ciFIU time:(9:00)

Precious Plastic - Build the injection (part 3.3)

@JerichoQuilala Already saw this? https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/the-big-electronics-topic/ (edited)

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto hi sir thomas . Thankyou for this . Im planning to making one of these to mold faceshield for homeless Thanks again

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Hi, who is here

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Please I need the machine to buy how do I get it

@inspire_hubert https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/

can it be delivered to India please

Depends, you have to look/ask the seller

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Here you can see if the seller listed india, if not you can ask.

alright will do that. But what is I want it myself, how do i get the parts?

Which machine?

the one that could melt the plastics

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I guess the extrusion machine

There are diffent ways to melt the plastic flakes (from the shredder) into new product. Maybe first have a look here what you like to do: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build

Thanks, let me look it up

Your options

probably the first one. I am taking a project in plastic waste management so I am trying to do a lot of experiments and take it up after school. Please is it possible to talk with the organisation as well? I am really interested in this plastic recycling issue

I think it is a good idea if go through the academy: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/intro It´s well organised and clear

If you have questions after that, you can tag someone

Hi everyone! I've got a question about moulds! Does anybody know it's possible to build a laser cut mould outa aluminium? Like the ones we do with metals. As it needs to be welded... It's quite challenging...

Hi @Bazyaftchi It’s definitely possible. You can modify bolt holes into the files for the laser cutter, and assemble the mold as a stack, then screw it together.

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To adapt the mold to your machine, instead of welding the thread directly to the mold, you can weld it to a seperate plate of steel, then bolt that to the mold.

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Hopefully that helps

hello guys i am maco just joined from japan

@Isometric Hi, thanks for helping!

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Does anybody know about the draft angle in compression mould making?

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hello! did anyone here try building a plastic bottle shredder with washing before?

need some advice for my university design project!

Hi everyone! I'm Dennis Negrijn from the Netherlands and just joined! I'm working on an idea and planning to create a proto type from a plastic sheet.. Before I order 1 or 2 sheets, I would like to have some feedback on what would be the best type of plastic. What would be the best channel for this? Thanky!

hey ladies what’s going on (edited)

hii i'm chloe from canada lovekissu

i'm part of an organization called Operation Take Two ( https://www.operationtaketwo.com ) nice to meet you all aa_heart

Operation Take Two

Operation Take Two is a youth-led social enterprise revolutionizing the global issue of waste by paring it down to a replicable, community response.

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@ROJI Welcome!

Nice website

thank you!

Hi @ROJI ! Looks awesome! Be sure to keep us and the #deleted-channel channel updated with progress. Looks like you’re all doing a great job!

thank u

@inspire_hubert I am a machine builder from India and you can contact me for any help. I can provide you with machines in India, no need to export from overseas.

hello! I've been looking at how Dave shaped and promoted his ideas and I think it's very impressive and a great new thing!

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sry if it's offtopic, I've came to chat because of old forum topic of Dave saying that any project is welcome: "It could be anything, a new app, system, video, machine, painting" https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/before-you-get-started/

Dave Hakkens

Before you get started - Dave Hakkens

Hi Friends This community is mainly focussed on developing our projects. But I know there are many more like-minded enthusiasts with great ideas out there. I also know how overwhelming it can be - Dave Hakkens

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I've got a project about translating and publishing or otherwise making available a certain collection of classical books, in text and audiobooks

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started with finding translator for one of the books at the author's forum and gathering some money from author's fans whom I know from same forum, to translate it plus giving some money myself, it's very good and it works for one book, but seems crude and not scalable for a whole collection of books, also got no idea how best to publish/spread books/audiobooks to make them as available online as possible (edited)

can i build machine with your designs??

@skumar1517 not only can, you definitely should

I am Driss from Morocco love to recycle anything but love to recycle plastics and love the Extruder machine you make

Hello... I just want to ask about the blueprints of the shredder... I only find the Pro version.. Is there the simple version somewhere else??

@Georgia Strataki did you download the kit from academy? It should be there.

Hi everyone we are making a thesis project for our school titled Design, Fabrication and Testing of Polyethylene Terephthalate Plastic Bottle. hoping you can help us

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we are a bunch of aspiring mechanical engineering students from ph

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do you have a video where the plastics are molded into blocks or pellets maybe?

Hello

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May I know how to find difference between PE and PP with conducting flame test

Guys

3:47 AM

Please tell me

When someone tells me "ill be right with you after i put this plastic in the bin."

@magi SVK yes, of course.. I only find Shredder Pro..

@magi SVK Ok I foun it.. I downloaded the entire universe folder and it is there... thanks

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@magi SVK the first time I had download just the shredder

@Aldothegreen85 Hy

Hey kishore have you seen this Pp video? https://youtu.be/fsqLJNyrVss

Precious Plastic - The basics of plastic (part 2.1)

Hi, I have question! Has anyone ever turned polyester fabric in solid PET plastic? I'm wondering how this is done as I am working on some textile recycling projects. Any info is really appreciated !!

hello

@Kae PET is turned into polyester dont think it can be done the other way?

Hi everyone! I recently bought an injection molding machine and am looking for a way to buy or make a mould? Any suggestions?

@izabelle462 Hi, depending on the type of injection molding machine you have the molds on the precious plastic bazaar should be adequte

@Isometric I think the precious plastics molds might be too small, im looking to make blanks for large pens

Hi everyone! I recently bought an injection molding machine and am looking for a way to buy or make a mould? Any suggestions?

@izabelle462 a very simple and quick mold could be done with acrylic and three plate molds, injecto, ejector and the plate with the negative space to fill. Look at the bazaar, @Rory - Sustainable Design Studio has very good designs in the bazaar.

@pablillojose thanks for the mention and praise! You rock! @izabelle462 if you need help or a custom design. Always happy to help!

HOLA A TODXS. ALGUIEN QUE HABLE ESPAÑOL?

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Hi guys, checking in from Trinidad and Tobago

Yeah @Aldothegreen85 I ve seen that video.. In that only sinkable plastics are PE and PP but once you added the salt PE automatically sinks.. but when I added those salt . It's still floats.. Kindly give me more information about the floating test .. My only concern is to find the difference between PE and PP without flame test

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@Kishore you need to find a liquid that has a density between the two.

simply use vegetable oil

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Just a brain fart: shouldn't an extruder with a mold attached to a nozzle be called "intruder"?

it is ALMOST an auger fed injection mold

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i think most "actual" ones have some odd "plunger" system, so that all the molten goop gets pushed in at once

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but otherwise the same

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i am jsut guessing here, but i think the role of the "pulling back" is to make a bigger blob of molten stuff in the barrel and push it into the mold at once

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i think the current PP design either gradually fills the mold (may be less strong due to gradual crystalization?), or uses the mold as that heated post-screw section

Hi everyone, My name is Almaz, I'm from Kazakhstan. I want to be on the same page with you and start recycling procesess in my country. I do my first steps in this sphere, so excuse me for stupid questions or some mistakes. Happy to join you

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@Joseph Yah ! Could you kindly Help me with that.

Hello, I'm muii from Thailand. I'm writing a post on my website about precious plastic. I want to add your map (https://community.preciousplastic.com/map) on my page. So, Is there any embed code of your map? Thank you

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hey guys is there any Spanish channel?

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found it!

btw I'm in Barcelona and I'm running a collection point, whoever wantyed to get involved please send me a pvt!

Hi everyone, my name is Carter, I am from Phoenix Arizona. I recently became interested in recycling plastics, and built my own filament extruder, I've tested shredding and extruding recycled plastics into 3D printer spools. I am struggling to maintain a consistent diameter/thickness of my filament. Does anyone have recommendations of how I could fix that?

@Milan | QiTech have a tipp maybe? Check also their website, youtube, ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vre8hxtY7UA

Hello from Los Angeles, California ! I've been reading up so much on Precious Plastic for months now and finally joined via Discord. I found a local shredder (yay!) to help us close the loop on our products since our main material is plastic acrylic. Has anyone here every worked with acrylic (aka plexiglass)? We are looking into getting our shreds either sheet pressed (which would hopefully be used in our laser cutter) or injection molded. So excited to be here

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Wow!

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#updates

Hello! Can someone guide on how to join the precious plastic?

Hello from Los Angeles, California ! I've been reading up so much on Precious Plastic for months now and finally joined via Discord. I found a local shredder (yay!) to help us close the loop on our products since our main material is plastic acrylic. Has anyone here every worked with acrylic (aka plexiglass)? We are looking into getting our shreds either sheet pressed (which would hopefully be used in our laser cutter) or injection molded. So excited to be here

@project_rotate Following!! I have so many acrylic scraps and would love to know if they can be laser cut again

@SofiaH definitely ! if there is already a way I hope I find it...let's see who chimes in. If not, then it's going to take some trial and error. But it's always fun discovering new things.

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@srikanthpotipi have a look at academy, you can find all the essentials here https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/intro.html

yes https://preciousplastic.com/about/open-source.html

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@magi SVK do you work for Precious Plastic?

@srikanthpotipi I don't, I'm just a member.

Does anyone know the average energy costs for running the extruder and shredder

Hello, I'm Adams from Nigeria. I am prepared to start building my extruder, shredder and molding machines and will need help especially on sourcing of parts and easy delivery to Nigeria. Thank you.

Hi Everyone, here Gus from Mexico City, we started an iniciative called "Plástico Chido" and we are building and modifiying the machines, and also generating content in spanish! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgZWd7uFuGKL5MfmxXjI_s8c7eDGs0La2

Plástico Chido

Todo lo que necesitas para empezar tu proyecto de UpCycling con plástico o simplemente para experimentar.

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announcment Precious Plastic Philippines now has a actual real plastic mold engineer available for consulting and injection mold design/fabrication. He is taking time off from the auto industry to do the backpacker thing around the world and is available for small jobs. (or big jobs) Skills include preparing injection molds with uneven parting lines, and designing mulitple piece dies with mandels, compression molds and vacuum form molds.

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Hi there, just discovered this group. Lots of exciting things here! I am a fashion designer in London, who has a growing interest in eyeswear. At the moment, I am upcycling old frames and making them into accessories. Would love to learn more about the finishes and re-coating acetate particularly. Not sure if anyone know the best way to do it or able to direct me to a place where I can learn?

hello! I live in the 'empty spain' and i want to recycle plastic. just looking around for the moment, and trying to start a local group. is hard without material in Spanish, as few people speaks English around here.

@mariacastiel where about in spain are you bud? I hope to move to spain at somepoint in the future.

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@Anit238 as a jewellery/product designer i would reckomend you look into 3d printing eye wear this would open up a vast amount of plastics and production tecniques open to you 3dprintingnerd on youtube is a guy i follow on twitter and on youtube he visits 3d printing conventions/shows which would help connect you to others with similar designer eyewear concepts.

@Aldothegreen85 i am near Teruel

@mariacastiel when i move to spain my ideal location is 1.5hrs away to the south of teruel town of requena

great place!

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It looks awesome (and the temp ranges wont cook me too much

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can be hot in summer, during the day. luckily cold is back now

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I went to malta during the height of summer a few years ago and almost melted think it reached 39-40c peak time and it was 28c during the night. I was night time swimming or chilling with a cold beer in a cold shower

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Hi guys, am new here.. making research on plastic recycling

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Am in Uganda and there is alot of plastic waste, I would like to make it into small pellets for export.. any one here who can join me?

@Aldothegreen85 Thanks for comment. 3D printing is definitely on my list. But now, I have to start from what I have. I have made something like this. People like the concept, but some 'higher end' shops said the craft has to be more polished. So just wondered how I can make the cut smoother. Ashamed that I'm not from jewellery design background

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@Anit238 what are you currently using to polish your plastics? When working with silver we used to use a product called tripoli its a mild abrasive but when used with silver it gives a high sheen,talking mirror like finishes on silver, with plastics i reckon it might be worth a shot. Ìf you have a multi tool you could try applying it with power and then after ward buff with a clean mop head should give you a glass like sheen. If you are working with recycled plastics though this might not work so well as the surface has pits and not so smooth surface (unless you can smooth it out with some wet and dry paper first using different grades

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Ps dont use tripoli with plated plastics such as a chrome or gold finish it will lift the plating off the plastic.

@Aldothegreen85

Let me give it a try. I just used the power tool before, but didn't know the kind of compound needed for it.

Good day! I become interested about your plastic recycling and I just want to know if it is possible to recycle PET bottles and mold it into transparent plastic films like the ones used in faceshields. It would be a big help if we would be able to make faceshields from recycled materials such as PET bottles specially here in the Philippines that is greatly affected by the pandemic. I'm hoping for your favorable response :) May there be more successful plastic recycling projects!

How much did it cost you to make the phone mold with 3dhubs

@eltitopeibol You can just upload a .stp-file to 3Dhubs and see a price

Hey guys, i want to share my knowledge to the world so i am going to start a youtub channel where i post videos about precious plastic, but the main question is is this legal? I dont want people to think ive stolen ideas so the question is: can i make video’s about my modifications to machines. I will obviously give all the props to david. I hope you all will like the video’s (first video will be about making the shredder from an old washing machine)

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Love yall

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@Anit238 at the college we had an all-rounder tripoli bar but you want a semi dry tripoli for cutting the surface. (Light grease but to the dry end this is a more abrasive compound. ulta dry might be a little too abrasive and difficult to work with on plastics) all rounder tripoli is coming in at £6-£8 per bar (+/- postage) but its used sparingly less is more kinda.

hi people: i want to make the machine "Shredder Pro" to work with plastic PP. I need that the output flake sizes to be of 0-7 mm. Has someone already worked with this machine? Because i need to know how many shredding times is necessary and wich would be the "output (Kg/h)". This is not specified in the page. Thanks

Just hello for now! Its late

Good night as well.

Hello everyone, my name is Julio Lake. from Indonesia. permission to join. : slight_smile:

is there also a discord for project kamp?

@dead one #kamp-chat channel for now.

Ahh thank you

Hi I work with HP designjet printers. They have large plastic covers. We scrap quite a few and I want to recycle the plastic. I have loads of questions. Is there anybody here I can talk it through with. Ideally I'll end up with granulated plastic someone can use. I'm based in Bath in the UK. If anyone needs help with their large format printer maybe I can help.

Hello everyone. I started a makerspace 8 years ago in Auroville, India. During lockdown some friends started to clean the beach of trash, si I got involved as I had a plastics recycling facility 30 years back. So now I am again recycling and we have built everything from waste. Built a gas oven to melt plastic from discarded refractory bricks, borrowed a press and with vokunteers have been washing, grinding and making sheets and hdpe filament for 3d printing. Will be happy to learn from the community as well as share all our newfound knowledge. I am a electromechanical engineer with experience in machine design. All we do is open source technology and our aim is enabling a circular economy for rural areas. A big hug to all of the PP community! Jorge

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Hi I work with HP designjet printers. They have large plastic covers. We scrap quite a few and I want to recycle the plastic. I have loads of questions. Is there anybody here I can talk it through with. Ideally I'll end up with granulated plastic someone can use. I'm based in Bath in the UK. If anyone needs help with their large format printer maybe I can help.

@styloid These are generally full of flame retardants that are potentially dangerous. It is indicated with a FR

@styloid built a large format printer. Build volume 3m high x 2m diam. We tried ldpe and hdpe filament, but warping is an issue. Any suggestions to improve? Read in some research papers to add lldpe to reduce warpage.

My printers are water-based ink printers. Your 3D printer sounds amazing but I'm afraid I can't offer you any help

@mariacastiel que necesitas saber?

@minvayu Auroville por ahora me estoy informando aquí en la plataforma, y yo hablo inglés, pero no sé cómo voy a convencer a los vecinos de que reciclen si no les puedo mostrar material en castellano. estoy pensando en montar un espacio de reciclaje y la gente de precios plastic valencia (https://preciosplasticvalencia.com ) me está contestando todas las preguntas, y me ayudarían con el soporte técnico. ahora el tema sería convencer a la comarca para ver si nos sueltan unos eurillos y nos dan espacio para empezar, y también conseguir más gente que se sume al proyecto.

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así que bueno me he metido en la plataforma de traducción hoy, y a ver si nos ponemos con la traducción al español porque mucha gente lo ha comentado aquí en el discord, en el canal spain y mexico y otros, y estamos traduciendo cosas por separado cuando las podríamos traducir en la web.

Entonces empezaré a producir algunos vídeos en español para enseñar un poco lo que hacemos aquí.

@mariacastiel i knew requena was where im meant to be its been calling me for years. Preciós plàstic valència has been the green light on my destiny.

@Aldothegreen85 Thank you so much for your suggestion. I placed my order for it. Regarding 3D printing. I start looking more into it. I have no training in using 3D modeling software. Just looking online, it seems the simpliest way is to scan the object, then use a software to clean up the file. I am thinking maybe I can get some clay for making the models? Have you done this before?

Now i need to learn spanish better than i currently do. @mariacastiel you will need to approach your EU gov and the spanish gov to get grant funding if you can network between the sources of your plastic and give approximations of the plastic claimed back could be 2kg/week/cafe/restaurante. All of these businesses you approach will be looking to cut back costs involved with business so i reckon if you can shave costs for refuse collections you might be able to arrange local regular supply of plastic to your workshop depending on your haul per week could help your out put potential. Ive been building my supply network and trying to figure out numbers locally before i approach my UK/sco gov for grant funding.

@Anit238 hey bud have you heard of the 3d printingnerd on youtube? This Dude knows his stuff when it comes to 3d printing this is what got me into precious plastic i was joining the dots between plastic 3d printing and plastic waste and found another plastic video where they adapt a precious plastic machine to make 3d printing spool filament then i looked up precious plastic and found @davehakkens on youtube and started following him aswell. When at college i used Rhinocerous software its my prefered software to work with due to it doing what i ask and i can bridge between apps easy

@Aldothegreen85 yeah, also apparently this is the last year for 'normal people' to adopt recycling, and the councils here are facing big fines if people do not separate the garbage, so my idea is to get help from the council to start something, in money to buy the machines and also spaces to collect and use the plastic

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i think i can count on businesses to give me plastics, but only if they are dirty... i dont think they will care enough to clean them up for me :S

@mariacastiel speak nicely to the councils and they might be able to give you a space cheaply or free esp if you save them from being fined. As a current kitchen porter i could honestly see kitchen porters cleaning the waste plastics at no real cost to the business

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a lot of people 'do not believe' in separating garbage, they say it all gets mixed up at the end, it is a maffia, etc. but they give you stuff. i collect stuff from bars (coffee grounds, dry bread) already, and i think it will be easy to get them to separate some of the things if it is not so complicated and they see where it is going (edited)

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my main bottleneck with collecting at the moment is my (maybe stupid) refusal to use a car. we are not so many around, i live in a town with 60 people in winter, and the 'big' town has 1000 people. It is a lot of garbage anyway, specially packaging, but I need to organize collection places on all the small towns to save on transport

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in summer there is a lot of people and the garbage grows exponentially

How good are the roads between towns could it be worth while building cargo tricycles with a solar power cycle aid for longer distances

i move around on an electric bike and i have a trailer but some of the main roads are quite scary for the bike and i just take the trailer to the garden and around my town

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in my town there is a lot of old people and the town is loooong, even if we are not so many as the population is shrinking since the Civil War. there are 'mixed' bins everywhere, but there is only one place to separate between plastic, paper and glass. and most people do not separate the garbage because of this. now there is a participatory process to deal with the garbage, everybody wants to have 'pick up at home' places. i have presented a project to the council to have a public chicken coop to deal with the organic garbage and i would like to have a PP workshop to deal with at least some of our plastic

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before covid some of the neighbours were even bringing me their veggie peels for my compost, but we have stopped it because of sanitary reasons.

The problem most recycle firms have is the waste is light but the size is bulky ill show you later how im figuring out collection loads reckon i can build a plastic load of 10kg or more just through packing the waste properly and sorting it out as we collect. could be a route you and other workers use to get to the workshop and you collect everyday on route to the workshop. The 3 plastics im aiming for is 2,4 and 5 all comapatible on the pp machines without serious investment in extraction for vocs (simple extraction is adequet from my research as these are low voc plastics as long as they arent burned)

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As a hobby gardener ive been toying with the idea of a wormery business if it was done on a resonable scale it could give reasonable results financially worm poo is the real black gold but you need to be in an area with serious plants and serious grows for regular turnover (some regions in spain, the netherlands, and colarado usa are idea areas for this kinda business to gain serious returns) everywhere else its a bit of a hit or miss unless you tap into community gardens.

here the amount of fuel and money we spend on 'throwing away' the garbage is terrible. as we are not so many, the dumpster is far away and each Kg of garbage you throw is fuel that the truck will use to take the garbage 300km away to the dumpster. this is the argument i use with the neighbours to get their peels

9:15 PM

right now i am mulching my garden with the rests of the almond crps of the neighbours. the peels and the hard part. they leave it in piles and i pick it up with the bike and dump it around in my garden

@mariacastiel Lol, interesting story.. which country are you in Maria

@kiramba i live in the center of spain, between madrid and valencia. where are you?

@mariacastiel Ooh, that's great, me in Africa, by the way am a huge fun of Spanish football and a RealMadrid supporter, we also enjoy el-Classico

oh comeon @kiramba barcelona is still good even after Messi drama

@mariacastiel hahahaha... Your Barcelona supporter I see, that's great, we would argue till sunset if we met, haha

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We have alot of plastic waste here and few people have invested in recycling, so it's what I want to go into due to cheap raw material, and ready market for the product

@kiramba do you live in a big city? in big cities it is easier to get plastic i guess

@mariacastiel yeah, for 2milion people

9:55 PM

It's really much plastic you can't finish it

yeah, i get nervous when the tourists throw a pet bottle on the road and then i remember the cities... ufff so much plastic! here i dont buy many things because the few stores we have use styrofoam and plastic packaging for everything. they buy stuff in valencia and the supermarket sells almonds from the US, while the almond trees around here sit unharvested. this world is crazy

@mariacastiel so do want to take plastic recycling as a business

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Do you*

@kiramba, i would like to see less plastic going to the landfill and i think i need help to do it, and for that i would need to create a couple of jobs at least

@mariacastiel oooh, great

Hello hello! Just got word about Precious Plastics from a friend. I'm located in the pacific northwest in the US and hope to one day run a makerspace that includes a plastic shredder and filament extruder.

@kiramba around here everybody is moving to the cities because there is no work, and a lot of people is very old (if you want to know more you can read this https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/22/empty-spain-government-urged-to-act-as-towns-fade-from-map ) so a couple of jobs could mean a lot, although i am starting to think that it may not be so easy to produce things with plastic. i would like to produce useful stuff, like electrical sockets or construction materials. it seems there are many regulations. i am looking into products that can be produced quickly and sold to stores, and that are more useful than coasters (don't get me wrong, they are beautiful, but i don't really feel like the world needs more coasters)

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@mariacastiel you know when i said to collect plastic on route to your workshop well i have divised a techneque that allows you to collect more plastic in less space using scissors and 4 or 5 cuts. It also enables the plastics to be dried and collected neatly in a home meaning recycling participants can collect over a period of time and you can lift the bulk on a cargo tricycle this is how im storing my plastic just now and its working out very compact in cubes each cube holds 10 milk jugs and the last milk jug base holds the cube together for transport each cube is regular in size and makes it easy for maximum collection capacity on your cargo trike.

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Notice the ends that curl on themselves these eventually loop all the way to the center

@Aldothegreen85 yeah i should think something like that. i feel i could get the council to pay me (a little) for picking up the trash door to door, and at the start I (soon hopefully we) will need some time to explain and convince the neighbours how to prepare the plastic, etc.

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one advantage is that we don't have so many stores around, so the packaging should not vary much

@mariacastiel you know when i said to collect plastic on route to your workshop well i have divised a techneque that allows you to collect more plastic in less space using scissors and 4 or 5 cuts. It also enables the plastics to be dried and collected neatly in a home meaning recycling participants can collect over a period of time and you can lift the bulk on a cargo tricycle this is how im storing my plastic just now and its working out very compact in cubes each cube holds 10 milk jugs and the last milk jug base holds the cube together for transport each cube is regular in size and makes it easy for maximum collection capacity on your cargo trike.

@Aldothegreen85 And like this it´s very nice to shred!

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its very hilly around here, i wouldn't want to load more than 50Kg on my bike trailer... i am not this guy! https://www.bikesatwork.com/store/product/96a-bicycle-trailer

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Long, standard width bicycle trailer. Carries up to 300 lb / 140 kg. Has space for 6-12 plastic storage containers. Useful for hauling lumber, ladders, large pieces of furniture, and more.

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto yeah that was my thinking each block weighs around 0.5/0.6kg So its easy to judge approximate weights on the output of the shredder

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@mariacastiel understandable bud

140kg FFS this type of load would be around 12-15kg max due to size of bulk plastic but with a cycle assist on your tricycle you could easily gain 30MPH with a load on the flat and possibly 15MPH on a hill.

i cant find a picture of my trailer atm. it is similar to this one and has a max load of 60KG but I don't like it when it goes higher than 30 because of the hills: https://www.amazon.es/FESTNIGHT-Remolque-Bicicletas-Equipaje-Acoplamiento/dp/B07RYD57XW/ref=sr_1_17?dchild=1&keywords=bike+trailer&qid=1601454820&sr=8-17

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although inside the town there are routes i can do that are almost flat

10:35 AM

i think we would need one collection point per hamlet

Oh guys i almost forgot to say ive discovered that the glue that holds some of the paper lables on to hdpe is heat reactive and wipes off clean when the inside of the container is filled with hot water (easier than trying to wet the paper and scrub off the glue after removing the paper pulp)

10:39 AM

i think we would need one collection point per hamlet

@mariacastiel my thinking is a hdpe drop off box infront of a library or comunity center or organise a door to door collection per day on route giving all homes an HDPE built tub to hold the plastic.

ufff collection points risk to be converted on normal garbage bins by the unaware....

10:40 AM

it is crazy the kind of stuff you can see in the paper-crystal-packaging containers!

10:40 AM

specially the sadly common 'used doggie bag'

I even toyed with the idea of having lego style boxes to lift and drop off

sometimes i find myself reclaiming to noone: it is not so hard people! and rearranging the bins, although it is hard because they are made for you not to be able to take stuff out

10:44 AM

i use brown cardboard on my garden, but i need the bin to be almost full to take from it

specially the sadly common 'used doggie bag'

@mariacastiel yeah this is the issue with this type of work i think collect from households and businesses is best plus you could once set up and running give back to these recyclers in cash or in plastic products. We need to show people that it can make cash. Money talks better than us recycle folks

this is the paper container and you cannot take much out from the white mailbox-style door: www.residuosprofesional.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/contenedor-papel.jpg

is there anyone working ocean plastic cleanup and recycling here?

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland is the go to for ocean clean up for me keeping me on the know

here in our area the most garbage is the organic, and if my project of the council chicken coop goes ahead i want to buy one of these: https://www.aixam-pro.com/en/e-truck/van and maybe i can also pickup other kinds of residues. organic is the heaviest and the little car protects you from the weather as well

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but yeah it is a bit of a dream by now... lets see if Ursula von der Leyen gives us the money!

@mariacastiel these are pretty cool

@Aldothegreen85 and expensive!

To introduce myself I run www.graviky.com we turn carbon emissions into inks and pigments. Hello from Boston

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http://www.graviky.com

Graviky Labs: Upcycling carbon emissions to inks and pigments

Graviky Labs is an MIT Spinoff that captures air pollution and recycles it into inks

@zwanderer nice!

@zwanderer yes we do work only with ocean plastics. I am not sure we are the only one but sure enough it is very expensive and painstaking to collect... that limits the motivations @mariacastiel be very careful with utilitarian e-vehicles. We bought a quad for our beach cleans and it turned out that the builders were cowboys and it lasted only a year. We then entered into a conflict with them and we barely got a third of our money back

@Aldothegreen85 and expensive!

@mariacastiel no kidding 18k but if you could get one via a grant and make cash from the organic recycling you could possibly break even just before the 2year warrenty is up

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland oh, that is a sad story! aixam is a big company around here, but the seller says it will be the first electric in the area and that scares me a bit.

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland got it! We are planning on doing apparel printed with AIR-INK ( inks made from recycling air pollution). To have a strong narrative we are trying to find out what's the best recycled fabric to test it on.

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland oh, that is a sad story! aixam is a big company around here, but the seller says it will be the first electric in the area and that scares me a bit.

@mariacastiel see this is what i dont get as a designer. In spain you have way move UV exposure why arent these vehicles harnessing the free rays a solar pannel roof and headboard could be topping up as you go or when you are stopping for non drive related work.

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland oh, that is a sad story! aixam is a big company around here, but the seller says it will be the first electric in the area and that scares me a bit.

@mariacastiel I know the brand but I would not buy new. A second hand vehicle will have a smaller footprint ecologically in general. Also more affordable for small organisations

@Aldothegreen85 the answer involves (as usual) big electric companies lobbying to recover the money they invested on centralized electrical system. it is disheartening. luckily not long ago the Supreme Court overthrew the 'tax to the sun' that the big companies lobbied to add to home producers

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland actually that is what i am doing at the moment... waiting 5 years for it to be cheaper

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@zwanderer we don't do yarn if it is what you are looking for. In Europe there is brand called Econyl that does and another one in Portugal (that I don't know the name of) Also plastic yarn is probably one of the most polluting thing for the oceans and general environment so not exactly what we are promoting

So what's better, to print it on recycled oceans plastic waste, or to print on BCI (Better cotton Initiative).

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better in terms of overall sustainability

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What are your thoughts about Adidas's Parley project.

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When we use cotton, people say that cotton cultivation consumes a LOT OF water.

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland it was after we spoke a while back i was looking into the PET problem and micro plastics and ive came to the conclusion that PET to fabric is a good idea but we are using it in the wrong application as clothing, we should be using it as isulation as its a non moving application of the fibre and its protected from UV

@zwanderer Clearly natural fibre is way more sustainable, cotton/hemp etc. estimations go that 20% of the mass of plastic floating in the ocean could be from cloth fibres and we will never recover them. These fibres are potentially toxic. Of course cotton is not ideal in particular in extensive farming. But there are also other fibres that are less demanding. Between drought and death of the Ocean, it starts to be a difficult choice

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland Well said. That's exactly the problem, which one to go with.

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We are still conceptualizing this, would love help on early feedback

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We know CO2 capture pretty well but very little about fabrics, but that's an important part of the platform we are putting together..

For our personal use and company we only promote natural fibres. That's the choice we have made. We also actively oppose to the development of plastic recycling that generate mobile fibres and small particles such as clothing and road surfacing or any potentially mechanical abrasive contact with plastics. We understand that there is no ideal solution and have been in the grass-root movement long enough to not criticise people trying to do things properly. But citing Paul Watson: If the Ocean die, we die. Hence the decision

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@zwanderer Clearly natural fibre is way more sustainable, cotton/hemp etc. estimations go that 20% of the mass of plastic floating in the ocean could be from cloth fibres and we will never recover them. These fibres are potentially toxic. Of course cotton is not ideal in particular in extensive farming. But there are also other fibres that are less demanding. Between drought and death of the Ocean, it starts to be a difficult choice

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland water is a resource that cycles it is never lost only stored in the wrong place the more vegitation we have the more trees we have the more precipitation occurs meaning the more water able to be retained in a fresh non salt state. Trees talk and share water

there are also new agricultural techniques that increase the water retention on agricultural land, and i guess that cotton production can be done better and in sustainable ways

That's a lot of valuable feedback! So tracking Carbon impact and choosing energy efficiency might not just be enough.

@zwanderer maybe you can get more information from this people? https://bettercotton.org

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Home – Better Cotton Initiative

The Better Cotton Initiative (BCI) is the largest cotton sustainability programme in the world.

I did some number crunching a few years ago and if we the human race planted our native trees in all areas considered brown belt we could retain water in the ground for plants and fungi. If we chose to take up hemp farming as a material crop it impacts on farmers food production but if we clone and plant fruit trees on lay away we can produce fruit where we lost grain or if eu changes laws we could use lay-away land as a fibre crop (edited)

Another initiative we launched a while ago

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https://doconomy.com/black/

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Slowed down dueto COVID

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While the AIR-INK aspect seems to be figured... apparel seems to be challenging as the sustainability as so many aspects to it- what is recycled might not be recyclable. What is recylable might be consuming a lot of water. Initially we thought if we go with recycled ocean plastic nylon it might work

@zwanderer i can remember seeing a video online about carbon ink think they were based in london or could have been australia but the ink is available in artstores and online its a paper ink for drawing and writing but for fabric i dont think it would work. could you use the carbon ink you have to dye cloth im thinking if it binds to cotton such as a tshirt you could try tie dying with it. The thing is cotton farming and hemp farming are always gonna be happening due to the nature of clothing synthetic fibres are risky unless used within a stationary non moving application such as insulation. Even then they still produce micro plastic fibres due to the processing but its more controlable than wearing clothes and shedding them as you wear them.

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https://youtu.be/gPsSBiDUXzc

Tech Insider

This device turns air pollution into ink

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https://www.graviky.com/

Graviky Labs: Upcycling carbon emissions to inks and pigments

Graviky Labs is an MIT Spinoff that captures air pollution and recycles it into inks

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This is one of the videos the other drops a link to where to buy the pens but i cant seem to find the video

@zwanderer, is a pity that is not an open source technology, it is patented and noone can copy it. (edited)

Hello Everyone, Nice to be here

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@Deleted User nice to have you bud. So what is your take on this recycling issue and where are you joining the dots. Im a jewellery/product designer with intertest in gardening and regreening. Im artistic and enjoy a variety of music. How about you?

Hi guys, do you know where i can find the PP logo in good quality to modify it for our group ? (if we can ?) (edited)

@krugars check this out: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/yourlogo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RGY6OW6-3I

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@mariacastiel Thanks a lot !

happy to help

Hey everyone. I guess as of right now I'm just a member, but I am planning on opening a workshop, but I do have some questions. I'm looking into making some 3d printer filament and I wanted to find out more about the process before I jumped in. What are the tolerances, and is the extrusion consistent? I read somewhere that UV rays degrade the plastic and then it becomes practically unusable? How would that affect the filament, or the print? Are there any types of plastics that wouldn't be good for me to extrude? Toxic fumes aside. More on the side of the filament won't be able to be printed properly, or something of the sort. Is there any government assistance to start a workshop? I've been looking on the Canada website, but I wanted to know if anyone knew of any other place I could look.

Hi all! Anyone know of the shredder v4 can handle schedule 40 pvc?

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Asking for one of our spaces in Puerto Rico

Hey everyone. I guess as of right now I'm just a member, but I am planning on opening a workshop, but I do have some questions. I'm looking into making some 3d printer filament and I wanted to find out more about the process before I jumped in. What are the tolerances, and is the extrusion consistent? I read somewhere that UV rays degrade the plastic and then it becomes practically unusable? How would that affect the filament, or the print? Are there any types of plastics that wouldn't be good for me to extrude? Toxic fumes aside. More on the side of the filament won't be able to be printed properly, or something of the sort. Is there any government assistance to start a workshop? I've been looking on the Canada website, but I wanted to know if anyone knew of any other place I could look.

@escalatorking hey bud ive done some basic tests with PP #5 plastic pots in my garden using them as plant pots and i found that 0.5mm thick plastic tub became brittle like thin glass after 18 months in scottish weather we have low UV levels due to our northern hemisphere and island status (yeah it rains a fair amount here ) only certain plastics are UV sensitive.

@Aldothegreen85 so plastic that's been out in the sun, like bottles and stuff, would I be able to recycle it? (edited)

Im not sure bud. @Eric Lotze have you any idea on this bud? Its not something ive researched yet but i have tested out how PP reacts in outdoor conditions, its not good with thin plastic items.

@Aldothegreen85 so plastic that's been out in the sun, like bottles and stuff, would I be able to recycle it?

@escalatorking All the ocean plastic has been quite damaged by UVs and we manage to recycle it (we only do PE and PP). PET seems to suffer more but that's not something done with Precious Plastic

@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland how does PP react with being recycled does it become flexible again. I was shocked at how brittle PP became after only a couple of years.

We have not noticed anything special once it is remoulded

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland cheers bud its good to know does it degrade quicker after remoulding? Do you need to add fresh material along with the uv broken plastics? And when i say fresh material i mean non uv damaged plastic (edited)

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland cheers bud its good to know does it degrade quicker after remoulding? Do you need to add fresh material along with the uv broken plastics? And when i say fresh material i mean non uv damaged plastic

@Aldothegreen85 As far as I understand, the UV breaks the weak links between monomers but not the monomers themselves. So when you heat back up the plastic, it will be the same if the temperature /chemistry doesn't degrade your plastic. Overheating actually shorten the chains hence the need to control your temperature, it is much worse than UVs. UV do degrade the pigments, hence the change in colour. Maybe some plasticisers and other stuff are degraded but I don't think it changes much for Precious Plastic applications (edited)

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https://www.thepolyflossfactory.com/

The Polyfloss Factory

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Cool project making yarn from recycled polymers

Hey, I am looking into starting a workspace here in Atlanta. I don't have the tools necessary to make a plastic shredder, however I do have a large network willing to recycle plastics. /Does anyone know a good place to buy plastic shredders here in the south?

Hola! necesito ayuda en español!

hola @Gustavo Mansilla has probado en los canales de latinoamérica o en #deleted-channel?

I did some looking around; This is a wikipedia page on UV degradation (of polymers) :

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UV_degradation

UV degradation

Many natural and synthetic polymers are attacked by ultraviolet radiation, and products using these materials may crack or disintegrate if they are not UV-stable. The problem is known as UV degradation, and is a common problem in products exposed to sunlight. Continuous exposu...

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And from the wikipedia page on abs "ABS is also damaged by sunlight. This caused one of the most widespread and expensive automobile recalls in US history due to the degradation of the seatbelt release buttons"

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I think nearly all plastics will EVENTUALLY photodegrade

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i think only those marketed/explicitly "UV resistant" are the ones that should really last

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I think some coatings and paint can help to a certain extent

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@kachek @delacampa @Mateo ID hello sacramento. I too have been looking for the sacto incarnation of this concept. The hacker lab seems like the obvious place for us but they don’t have the equipment in their facility. I’m interested in processing plastic sheets for vacuum molding. Cal recycle has Grants for this kind of thing. https://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/funding was (edited)

Hello all. I am so glad to be writing this msg. Im just about to set up a multi machine workspace. This will be used as a Recycling center and a kinesthetic Mental Health therapy service branded as Project Rebuild. Has anyone got any advice or tips for a good well thought out workspace?

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Ok i gave in and had a search for polystyrene jokes omg its bad! These arent my jokes i take no credit for these but these are the best jokes i could find.

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Did you hear about the styrofoam man that worked on an electric train? He was fired because he was an awful conductor.

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------- warning dark humour ------ What's the difference between a dead baby and a Styrofoam cup? A dead baby doesn't harm the atmosphere when you burn it.

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Best 2 jokes on polystyrene i could find the rest were less funny than these

@Aldothegreen85 I read this article a while back about how many emissions you save by not having children: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/want-to-fight-climate-change-have-fewer-children

Want to fight climate change? Have fewer children

Next best actions are selling your car, avoiding flights and going vegetarian, according to study into true impacts of different green lifestyle choices

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i guess not having them is less emissions than having them and burning them. i wouldn't suggest burning already existing babies tbh.

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@Deleted User : is a good time for female astronauts, in case you are interested on contaminating a different planet

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3c9EjzIRDQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=AndreyKolev I REALLY want to try this. What do you guys think - will it work with the PP extruder?

Recycled PET plastic with "Easy Wool 3"

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I don't think it uses cooling water. It uses a blower, but air should be quite dry

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It is a pet extruder and when plastic is coming out a stream of dry maybe hot air is blowing it into wool. That is my guess from the video

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@minvayu Auroville he wrote in a comment that the cooling water is for the auger inside. I guess that means the extrusion screw

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lol

hello everyone

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does anyone here know of any non-profit collection points?

New here and to 3d printing, but I manage a large volume retail pharmacy and have access to a lot of clean plastic. I was thinking About shredding..thoughts advice?

@Rexx51 if you keep the plastic separated and clean you can get high quality, very uniform material

anyone have the dimensions of the finish size of this?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3c9EjzIRDQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=AndreyKolev I REALLY want to try this. What do you guys think - will it work with the PP extruder?

@Joseph yes it works, but the blower is blowing very hot air and high volume. air compressor will not work, you need something like a 1hp blower with 2 or 3 of those hot air gun heaters in the nozzle. Been there done that..

Recycled PET plastic with "Easy Wool 3"

its not a easy thing to make

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https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/build-brick-structures can someonee tell ne the dimensions of the blocks? there is zero details in the kits

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So I guess the next step is just building a shredder?

newbie question but where is the cad file for the shredder pro on the precious plastic website?

@Lethis It's all right here. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

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A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

thank you im an idiot and over looked it

Hello everyone! My name is Haley and I am a mechanical engineering student that goes to school in Ohio. For my senior capstone class project my group is tasked with using the Precious Plastic extruder to create plastic lumber that can be used to create a boardwalk in Uganda! My group and I have been unable to test out the extruder because of Covid and have some questions/could use some advice as none of us have any previous experience working with plastics. I found this discord channel and wanted to know if anyone would be able to give us some insight! Thanks in advance!

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#just-chatting Hello everyone, my name is same and I am a creative designer working in London

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The company that I work for are trying to source a 100% recycled plastic material in sheet form that looks speckled (obviously recycled). This is to be used within a retail environment and should be 3-5mm thick. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas of what we could use? Also, let me know if I am not supposed to be asking questions in this chat, I am new and don't really know what I am doing #just-chatting

@SamFanson Hello, did you check on the bazar? :) https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/raw-material/sheets/

Raw Material :: Sheets

@Ley Klussyn Hello, yes thank you I recently saw this and it is brilliant! Do you know any other places where you can buy this type of plastic?

@SamFanson Another possibility could be to check in the PP map if a workshop "near you" (or further) could fill your order :) https://community.preciousplastic.com/map (edited)

Good morning all! My name is Théodore and I am a student in electromechanical engineering at the École Supérieure Polytechnique in Dakar. I want to use the Precious Plastic extruder to create plastic coils for 3d printing. for that I decided to tinker with an extruder to recycle plastic waste. Thank you.

@Ley Klussyn Thank you so much you have been very helpful

Hi pp universe! Does anyone have ideas or want to chat on how to shred (tho it seems hard/impossible to shred?) melt, or mould soft plastics like grocery bags etc? Seems like the only advice I’ve seen is to collect them and take them to a specialized recycler but I’m curious if there is anyone here building with these materials? Should I make rope? Eco bricks? DM me!

@rachel.miller Look up Gomi Design. They do some awesome work with soft plastics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1s&v=PBfeRIGIEl0

Tom Meades

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10:26 PM

https://www.gomi.design

gomi - Portable Chargers made from plastic waste

Creators of gomi Portable Chargers and gomi Speakers, made out of non-recyclable plastic waste. We also collaborate with companies to repurpose their flexible plastic waste

Hello. I am in the USA , in the state of New Mexico. I am interested in making it possible for our rural consumers to shred their plastic at home where they use it. I have waited a long time for an appliance, but time's up. I got to make it happen. Then, down the road maybe incubating a shred collection system to get it to recyclers. Hoping to be one link in the chain.

Hi, I am a student and really interested in this project! Can anyone tell me How will this project contribute to environmental justice?

Thank you so much @Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) I will definitely check that out. Do you do any work with soft plastics currently?

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Hello everyone, I wish you all have a good week, I want to ask you for your help, please, I am a designer designer at Solidworks, and I want to start with plastic recycling, but I do not speak English much, there is some possibility of getting the files in Spanish?? I fron CHILE

I would appreciate it very much, and I make available my knowledge in drawing for those who require my help ... greetings to all!

@rachel.miller its an extra step process to recycle plastic bags if you can identify the plastic all the better but i found you need to fuse it together before shredding the plastic density is the issue as it chews up if remaining a plastic bag but using an iron and fusing the bag together to its self until its 1 or 2mm thick i reckon it will shred like any soft plastic such as LDPE ,PE and HDPE.

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Im currently making some trial boards using plastic bags these will be made into cargo trike load holding boxes

I want to end this type of info failure on packaging. not just via the companys but by law i want to end the lack of information provided, why doesnt it say (plastic type) not currently recycled; to allow people like us to figure out how to process it.

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I wish it too!

@rachel.miller Nothing yet but starting in the new year I’m going to have an 8 month break and I’m going to focus on my Precious Plastic projects and hopefully be able to get soft plastic waste figured out too.

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Thoughts on the biodegradable plastics project? Any ideas on mixing resin with the material?

whats up buddies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNGuuSKE1pY&t=311s Hello all, I was watching this video and looking into using this process using HDPE. Has anyone ever done this? I was looking into purchasing the new screw as mentioned in the video, but want to make sure there will not be too much backpressure on my machine, and that the plastic will no solidify too quickly since it looked like his mold was not heated.

Extrude beams from plastic waste #preciousplastic

@Aldothegreen85 i am unsure, but i would wager those bags may be multi-layer "vapor sealed" bags etc. I do agree more data is better, but short of pyrolysis and/or gasification -> petrochemicals from said recycling material ->plastic production I don't think there are any current methods. I was reading up on this a while back

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I also hate the "#7 Other" category etc

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Is there any sort of lobbying group/petition on this?

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what is the @ for admins/"people with power" ? (edited)

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I'm guessing the team role?

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EITHER WAY i think a dedicated page for FDM Filament Prodiucing Machine would be useful to consolidate all development efforts, and reduce competitive/redundancy waste

Hello iam devan, iam from indonesia, iam a student and i really interest about precius plastic, i have build a extruder machine from precius plastic, but there is a problem, i have the research about natural fibre reinforcment polymer, but with the extruder machine the polymer and fibre cant to join correctly, and when we mold the plastic there is a bubble inside, can anyone help me to fix it, thank you?

@Aldothegreen85 - that’s a great idea, I was hoping that would be true. I’ll give that a go at a small scale! I also just found this (https://www.byfusion.com) that could work at an industrial scale and will look into how to do this for the pp community. @Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) lmk in the new year if you want to continue to chat and bounce ideas for soft plastics!

@Evanz what type of fiber are you using?

@Eric Lotze iam use a bamboo fibre

what is the length of the fibers?

Hello...

3:32 AM

I usually mess w/ Linux SBCs. I want to find a way into plastics and machines. You have "neat" videos that are towards a good cause.

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I have a 3D Printer, i.e. well, had one. It is on the fritz for now.

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Anyway, I am reaching out to find out about shredder boxes.

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Are there any people in the USA that are making these shredder boxes?

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I am asking b/c I would like one to use for discarded plastics instead of giving the plastics away for who knows what...

@Eric Lotze maybe its only 10-15 mm

@Aldothegreen85 i am unsure, but i would wager those bags may be multi-layer "vapor sealed" bags etc. I do agree more data is better, but short of pyrolysis and/or gasification -> petrochemicals from said recycling material ->plastic production I don't think there are any current methods. I was reading up on this a while back

@Eric Lotze this bag seems to be an LDPE bag i reckon its not currently recycled due to the the jamming issues of shredding something with this much flexibility and lack of depth the plastic bag must be a max of 0.05mm depth at most. Some of the not currently recycled packaging seems to go brittle after fusing but this would be easier to process if identifyable. The dual layer alu/foil lined plastics are an issue i think could be solved if we know what they are. I dont see what the issue is with putting a plastic type info next to the not currently recycled logo. Could the multi layer products be manufactured in such a way that they can be manually separated like the sleeves on drinks bottles with a rip strip?

@rachel.miller Definitely! I’ll send you a message in a few months. Thanks!

@Aldothegreen85 - that’s a great idea, I was hoping that would be true. I’ll give that a go at a small scale! I also just found this (https://www.byfusion.com) that could work at an industrial scale and will look into how to do this for the pp community. @Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) lmk in the new year if you want to continue to chat and bounce ideas for soft plastics!

@rachel.miller i had a look at the link my only fear is the plastic degrading due to temperature change and UV expossure? this plastic they use is all one type of plastic yeah?

@Aldothegreen85 I think(?) that it’s all sorts of plastics not just one type but I totally agree on the degradation due to temp and UV. It seems like even though they use many different types of plastics the only thing they care about is rough weight/volume of the brick which lowers their sorting and cleaning costs. In their promo video it looks like they board up the sides of the block walls to protect from UV?

@rachel.miller the guys on here will tell you mixing materials only lowers the quality of the plastic and it degrades into micro plastics quicker it dont take much to sort before you shred and cleaning is important if you dont clean, the biohazard issue is huge. (edited)

That makes a lot of sense. There’s another brick maker https://www.consciousdesigns.nl/unibrick-samples that looks much cleaner but idk their throughout or if they are open source

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M6 or M8 rods make these bind together in a big way ive got a similar design based around lego duplo compatability to salvage duplo as a filler block between M6 pins think PP is the closest i can get to ABS on the recycle market so ill need to figure out shrinkage rates etc but im sure it could work

Hi everyone Just joined but been collecting plastic and rubbish out of rivers when I go paddling for a while now! It makes me sad to see. I want to take it to the next step and came across this community

Firstly how do I find out if there is something near me already. Based in the UK, Maidenhead area. Secondly if not... where should I start in getting it going. Lots to read so advice on where to start. Thanks in advance

@Justin https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

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This is a good place to start @Justin https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/overview.html

Starterktis Overview

Starterkits are packages of information with everything you need to know to set up Precious Plastic recycling spaces and start tackling the plastic waste problem.

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Hey Team, I currently am doing an assignment on this project. Does anyone know or any sources of success of the different previous plastic hubs around the world?

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https://preciousplastic.com/impact @annabalchin this might help you

Data and numbers about the recycling impact of hundreds of Precious Plastic workspaces around the world.

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Thanks Joseph!

hey guys. so I am finalizing this operation to take plastic out of the ocean, sort clean and shred it.

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I am wondering about what kind of soap I sould use for the cleaning process

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i would just use clothes soap if i didnt have to advice, but i am wondering if any of you have some experience here?

Hi, I have recently come across Precious Plastic whilst doing research into plastic recycling for a business idea of mine. I saw on the website some of the products made from recycled plastics and I was wondering whether those plastics had been separated before hand into PET HDPE etc or whether it was a random mixture of different kinds of plastics?

@TORC1 each plastic must be separated otherwise you create an inferior product it will degrade quicker and become a problem plastic not able to be further processed later on

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I am wondering about what kind of soap I sould use for the cleaning process

@Sargasso @PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland bud this is your department whats your process/product of cleaning. Im only processing my own plastic at home at the moment and it is washed in general dish water and rinsed before drying.

yeah i think if i dont hear better i will start at least with dish soap, dishes are made from hard plastic often so it sounds reasonable....

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@TORC1 you can mix the colors no problem by the way, just the types it starts to get messy

We do not use soap, rain and sun for bleaching the organic matter, I made a wee video of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VTU1gWEjvU

Plastic At Bay

How we wash beach plastic

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Cheers for the heads up on the plastics needing to be sorted beforehand. I'm guessing people here are shredding and recycling thermoplastics such as PET and then reforming into other products. Has anyone had any experience on shredding thermosetting polymers such as polyurethanes, bakelite etc...

i would just use clothes soap if i didnt have to advice, but i am wondering if any of you have some experience here?

@Sargasso Post-consumer waste plastics are usually wet washed in warm water (60 deg.C) with some sort of detergent (washing up liquid or a stronger industrial version will suffice) and Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH). the sodium hydroxide most likely will be to remove organic greases and dirts from the plastics.

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Thanks :)

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I will start off with dish soap, then play around from there

Hello I'm from Reunion island , I search a French precious plastic machine maker.

@oO LA LÉGENDE Oo had a look here?: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/?features_hash=5-0-9200-EUR

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Fuel_Agnostic_Pyrolysis_Batch_Kiln

YES, but I need a french person who can sell me the shredder box, the coupling and the motor with the electronic without the support.

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And send me it at Reunion island.

Hi. Jennifer Barthelot, Murrumbeena VICTORIA Australia 3163. I'm new both here & in plastic know how or indeed in any technical know how but am a passionate collector of all things plastic from bags, packaging to tin glass ridgid foam anything & everything in between.....you name it! YES & all of the above much more than your average household collection; more than I know what to do with & if I don't am afraid I won't have a living space left & MOST IMPORTANTLY would be forced to turf it out! HELP PLEASE!

What I'm ideally seeking is for an expert in the field to take me under their wing & help me tease out the practical possibilities including technical details of what is achievable with my collection of plastics & other collections. In return I'm happy to donate anything at all from my collection & this: Here's the complete version of what I wrote under Subject & Special Skills to Melbourne Plastics in 2019 but haven't received a response. SUBJECT "Have raw material, will volunteer. Show me how to metamorphose plastics into furniture, green houses, shelves SPECAIL SKILLS Creativity ++++!!!! KEEN TO LEARN! ENTHUSIASM, ENERGY, stick-to-itiveness & dedication. In for the long haul" (edited)

Can i convert plastic extruder machine into injection moulding machine?

YES, but I need a french person who can sell me the shredder box, the coupling and the motor with the electronic without the support.

@oO LA LÉGENDE Oo Dans le Channel #deleted-channel c'est plus facile et sur le bazar tu as des constructeurs Francais. Il y a un precious plastic francophone aussi

@Anna Bandanna did you have any further case studies shared. I’m after the same thing for a university project and looking for a specific case study or peer reviewed paper

Hey @Zak Al Attack , please only post in one channel. Thank you

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@Zak Al Attack it might be helpful for you to expand upon your work before you ask for money or donations.

Hi, I'm a college student working on a project that includes making liquid resin from recycled plastic pellets. I stumbled across this discord online. I have little teaching in chemistry let alone polymer science and so I'd really appreciate if someone could take the time to message or talk to me briefly, I haven't been able to find anyone.

Hi I have plastic lids HDPE #2. They are all the same type of plastic, but I am finding that the dark blue colour is melting much easier than the white colour. Any one else get that? The white HDPE is not melting even at 280 degrees C, I am not sure why is that

@bruna plastics can have the same base type but different “recipes”

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chances are they have different additives that affect their properties

So how do i know the melting temperature for each one?

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The white ones are not melting properly even at 280 degrees

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And the white colour is the base for all the colour mixes

If it´s HDPE it should melt at 280 degrees, it should melt about 130-160degrees. How do you melt?

I am using the injection machine. But it is not melting at 280. Im not sure what is wrong

Mabe calibrate you temperature sensor. Where at the pipe do you measure?

Towards the end

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The dark blue plastic is melting very liquidy, but the white plastic is not melting at all

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So I think the temperature sensor is not the issue

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Maybe is the way that I am sorting the lids? Im shredding all the white HDPE 2 lids together

If have also white lids here and they melt also at 160deg. Can you bent them easy like these?

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Some bend easier than others

And it keeps the bend? If it does go back to where it started, it's probably not hdpe.

hellow guys . what do you guys think of topic "turnning plastic waste into fule" ? does anyone interested in this area? im prototyping a small reactor . need suggestion and support. ive check a lots videos relate to this topic. and they seems very easy...

technically it’s still a fossil fuel so it’s not ideal but given how much plastic there is in the environment, it would probably have to be done on some level (edited)

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I’d be interested in seeing the reactor

yeah. i know ,the outcome product is fossil fuel. need further extraction. im designing the reactor now . a lots factor need to be take care of. the reactor is for hosehold use. just hoping i can finish the reactor this year.

I was working in it (just planning, not hands on yet) as a solution to the "un-recyclables"

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Open Source Fuel Agnostic Pyrolysis Batch Kiln

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Some existing desings exist

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mainly just heat a sealed container, and capture the condensate (in it's most basic form)

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more refined versions use the syngas as fuel, and use an inert atmosphere (nitrogen or argon) to prevent oxidation/burning

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the liquids you get are pretty nasty stuff, so either refine, or use it as quickly as possible, and use safe storage/transfer practices

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This Youtube Channel does some great work on all this:

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2i2oLLOy2DSYU9Hd65uV7g

Hazel Chem

Hello you all! I am a hobby chemist and I am uploading different synthesis to this channel. Currently I am working on a bigger plastic waste to fuel recyclin...

I have just seen that https://www.nature.com/articles/s41929-020-00518-5 If that's really working that could be something...

Microwave-initiated catalytic deconstruction of plastic waste into ...

The valorisation of plastic waste is highly desirable from an environmental perspective but generally yields low-value products. Now a method is disclosed to deconstruct plastic feedstocks into high-value hydrogen and carbon materials by means of an iron-based catalyst under m...

@Eric Lotze @PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland thanks for the information , really appreciated

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No Problem !

Hello Community. I am from Haiti. I am very interested in plastics Vaporization. My company in Haiti starting recycle plastics and turned them into useful products. We are working on a new technology. And we would like to implement the technology of precious plastics. I am happy to join this incredible community

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We are planning to buy building equipments(extruder,shredder,intrusion molds) from a precious plastics community. The challenge now is to buy from a country which can ship to Haiti.

@SofiaH @Clever Bunny Jen hey I am a bit late replying to this but I am the person in that acrylic recycling Video, and since then have made a lot of improvements to the technique. the press I use is a vulcanising press, I havnt experimented on a larger scale yet unfortunately, this press is perfect for acrylic as you only need to get the material to its softening temp around 160 degrees to press it into a new sheet, the important thing is a LOT of pressure that is spread evenly across the whole surface. welcome to ask more questions

Hi, where can I find the files for the shredder ? Thank you

@off cut queen Thank you for the reply!! Do you have any recommendations for a vulcanising press? Do the pressing plates themselves heat up (I assume they do). I had reached out to some scientific companies looking for used equipment, but never was taken seriously. I've hit a lot of dead ends, blah. I'm so excited to recycle acrylic scraps into new art materials like you have been pioneering, but getting the equipment seems to be a real hurdle here. Thank you!

Would anyone else be interested in creation of a "FDM 3D Printer Filament Making" (or some similar name) channel in Under Development?

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maybe a general 3D print topic? what with @Rory - Sustainable Design Studio big printer making tests and stuff..

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@Eric Lotze Also working on a filament maker for PP machines too, so I can just post all of it in "3d printing" (edited)

3d printing is good as well, perhaps seperate channels for both

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I just want a dedicated chanel for making FDM printer filament

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we have quite a bit of redundancy/competitive waste i think,

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in that many people are designing FDM Filament Makers without much collaboration/communication on said designs and each person's progress.

@Eric Lotze Anywhere the conversation parks, I'm interested.

Hello guys...I need help. I am trying to make bricks from plastic waste...the lego type. I have the extruder machine as well as the mold but I don’t know how to connect the mold to the mouth of the machine. The mouth of the machine is circular and the mold is rectangular. I worry about how to connect it and how the material will flow continuously to the end of the mold. How can I do it please? Please help.

hi

Anyone working on any cool new projects?

ANyone know much about this? https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/new-enzyme-cocktail-can-break-plastic-down-within-hours-scientists/ar-BB1a7Y7f?ocid=msedgdhp

New enzyme ‘cocktail’ can break plastic down within hours: Scientis...

Researchers believe this new super enzyme can disintegrate plastic within a matter of hours.

Is the pp website not fully functional. I'm trying to access the community map or even the bazaar on my iPad but I get blank screens. What's up? I live in USA and want to find shredder and extruded but cannot access the map. Any help or links would be helpful. Thanks

What link are you looking at @lemonhead

Hi. We're a group from Spain and we are going to set up a start-up business. We would like to know if we can purchase the machines already constructed.

Hi all, I've been eyeballing the precious plastics machines for way too long. If all goes according to plan I'm moving to Senegal for a couple of months (november - april), with a personal goal of trying to build at least a shredder during my stay.

Hello, nice to meet you, I am from Chile and I want to see the possibility of starting the recycling business in my place of origin. I have read a lot from the web about how to do the process, however I cannot find the plans properly so, and to send to make the pieces for the crusher and others I require that information. I appreciate anyone who can help me or forward the files to o.riveros007@gmail.com

@Leyendas.chile Hey

, just download here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

Has anyone here made recycled plastic energy products?

@Aldothegreen85 what do you mean by "energy" products?

@Aldothegreen85 you mean fuel or something?

Hi. We're a group from Spain and we are going to set up a start-up business. We would like to know if we can purchase the machines already constructed.

@Javi hi. you can find them here https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/

Collapsible Crates C Series|Plastic Collapsible Crate-SHG

Hey everybody, I wanted to start a workshop in my town but I was wondering if it was possible to use the biopress on plastic. I ask this because of the moulding process i wanted to try doesn't really work on the existing machines and this machine seems to fit what iam looking for. And i saw in the video that this machine also heats up to 240°.

Hey Everyone! I am hoping to create some lego pieces out of ocean plastic for a youtube video. My plan at this point is to use a 3d printer to make the pieces and some kind of shredder/filament maker to create the raw material. I am wondering if anyone has a better idea of how to turn plastic waste into a piece of lego? If not... does anyone know how I could locate any of the machines I need to pull this off? haha thanks so much!

Hi everyone. I'm new to this, so please be gentle with me. My company is working in Uganda where we install new electricity mini-grids in some of the most remote, off-grid rural communities. At each community we hope to establish new electrically-powered enterprises that can create jobs. Uganda has a plastics waste problem, of course, and there is also a need to improve the way that fruit and vegetables are transported from farm to market. I would love to hear from anyone who can create a foldable plastic crate (e.g. like this one https://www.foldable-crate.com/collapsible-crate.html ) from recycled plastics. It's a problem that needs a solution. thanks guys.

@MartynCowsill Any updates on this? We are working on this same product in Tanzania and I am researching how to make durable hinges...

with the advantages of save transportation cost, easy installation and easy to handle, SINO SHG folding crates are widely used in industry, agriculture, fisheries, animal husbandry and aquaculture.

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This is our design

@Aldothegreen85 what do you mean by "energy" products?

@Ley Klussyn ive been designing solar powered bottle lamps using a 3d printed connection piece for the solar pannel to seat into it and a plug for the bottle top to hold onto the glass or plastic bottle. Ive also been designing a drain pipe dynamo to harness rainfall from roofs. I was just wondering if anyone else has designed and made energy products using recycled plastic. (edited)

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@LeviHildebrand the most regular way to build them quickly would be to injection mould them. 3d printing nerd did a video on 3d printing lego blocks but it took a long time and that was with eco mapping the pieces on a print bed

@Aldothegreen85 They don't seem to be a "particular" class of products that would need special care, as far as I understand it. Maybe heat and/or outdoor scenario for the choice of plastic and strength. But yeah you could design a mold to inject them, I think it would work. [I dont really see why it wouldn't...?] (And it's way faster than 3D Printing, 3DP is more intended for prototyping and/or small scale/unique pieces, but if you want to make like 1000 of the exact same piece, you may want to use injection.) (edited)

Hello all. I stumbled across a you tube video showing a Extrusion machine making filament. I was wondering how do I obtain the blueprints for it. The person in the video said to visit the website but I cannot locate any information

@Salvatore [MTG Chicago] 🇮🇹 from what i know bud its down to nossle size and cooling lengths there is a video on 3d printing nerds youtube channel (bacon filament) which shows the system they use to extrude non recycle custom filament. Only thing you might want to be aware of is the wear and tear of the nozzle if you are working with recycled plastics the metallic plastics can be abrasive making the nozzle widen as it gets older obv there will be some play in filament widths but it may cause you to produce a filament which is unusable if a printer cant load it because its too big.

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@Salvatore [MTG Chicago] 🇮🇹 https://youtu.be/78K4G1yW9OI

3D Printing Nerd

3D Printing with Proto Pasta Custom Bacon Filament!

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Thank you

I am a life-long student interested in the circular economy and the role that recycling/repurposing/reprocessed plastics will play in our future. I am currently staying at Community First! Village in Austin, Texas and believe that this would be a great place to implement some ideas of precious plastic. I would love to start a collection point in my community and find a way to monetize our end product. Let's join forces!

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Hey everyone, I am running a manufacturing unit in Pakistan. We deal with injection molding and PET blow molding products. Looking forward to getting great insight from this community. Thanks Umar Gondal

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Hi everyone, new to precious plastics but really inspired by what I have seen. Does anyone know if you can produce translucent or semi-transparent sheets using the sheet press?

@Ello Market yeah definitely semi-transparent. We've made those from PS

Hello everyone! My senior design team is trying to recycle PET plastic for our senior design project. Does anyone have any success/failure stories about their experience with PET?

Hi all. Sorry for the ask post, (and having to use my games tag as I already had an account, the name is Kyle Daniel from the uk). Just starting out, shredder nearly up but still scratching our heads about what we can make that will help our local community the most. There are so many cool things being made that honestly I'm lost. Is there somewhere just a list of everything people have managed to make that we can draw inspiration from? I know that's a huge ask but the as close as possible would be amazing Thanks all and Hi!

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Hello, this is Gaylene in Saskatoon. Is anyone active here, or close by in Saskatchewan? (edited)

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@Gaylene Check in #deleted-channel

Hey,is there a possible way to interact(send or receive) with people from other countries because I don't got anyone in my own country??

Hey guys! I need a cool name for my plastic recycling startup(inspired by PP).HELPPP

Hey, Is anyone here from India?

Anyone know if you can cut cellular acetate on a laser cutter? It's the stuff transparencies are made of

@MicroTransactionsMatterToo If I remember correctly it warps and burns out but I'm not sure it was the same stuff. I have some in the shop and could try it out in the morning.

That'd be great if you're willing to

Hello I'm New here

@CitSciWorkshop let me know how it turns out

@Ramisb what plastics are you working with and what are you doing?

@Kyle Daniel hey bud are you a lone station in the pp comunity (no other pp workspaces close by?) If you have a shredder and you have other comunity points close buy you could make plastic shred as a sale product to other comunity points. I has some inspiration from the icelandic guys video on bag making. Layering up bags stitching the fused plastics together into a large 24×36 inch square bag (including a velcro fold over flap final bag size would be around 24×30inches and would hold a set KG weight possibly close to 10kg or more. The bags would be able to be plalletised which would make easy transport esp if bungee/rope anchor points are placed on the pallet tops (i hate shrink wrap) these would turn out to be half height pallets as the load is light and the anchor points stop stacking or fork access so i choose fork access over stacking that way you can still load them into a van or move with pallet truck.

@Aldothegreen85 we are doing plastic beams and lego bricks.and soon getting the sheetpress to do plastic sheets. We are focusing on construction raw materials.substitute to wood and steel

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Whats your plastic types you are focusing on?

@Ramisb reckon something like (plasticnumbers)-lightcontructs. (Plastic numbers)-plastibuild (Plastic numbers)-plastiforge Reason i say plastic numbers is it will help folk bring plastic to you if they are reminded in the name of the plastics you use. #2 Hdpe #5 PP #4 Ldpe #6 PS 2546 plastibuild 245 plastiforge 235 plastiforge Etc etc etc

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@klaatu_84 Hello im new here too!Welcome!

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I feel impressed this channel, Hi, I am Hailey!

Hello im Kuba and I would like to convert failed 3d prints into filament!

hi, I'm new here. I'm looking for resources. I need user manual of Shredder PRO and Extrusion PRO. I would appreciate your help xD

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syvonnvathana@gmail.com is my email, thanks in advance xD

hello guys, anyone can helpme to understand about converting stepper motor speed to mm/s

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// calculate speed in mm/s // stepper motor steps per second / number of steps it takes to complete 1 revolution (200 x 1/4 stepping = 800) // multiply with: // diameter of the roller times PI to get the circumference of the roller float catterpillarSpeed = ((float(caterpillar.speed()) / 800.0) * ( 50.0 * PI));

Not sure where to put this but I'm gonna just toss it out here. I'm struggling with my shredding capacity. My shredder is not the pro version but there's a massive price jump to get the v4 pro, like I can buy 5 of the non-shredder pro for the same price. I was wondering if anyone has experience with other shredders that have spinning blades in them like these photos I'm sharing

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This thing is only about $350usd or so, which has me wondering why someone would bother with Precious Plastic shredders, but there's surely a reason. So, anyone have experience with these?

Hi all, I really, really, really want to get started with the beyond plastic bio press, however, I cannot build it myself, nor do I know anyone near me willing to build one, there is one on the bazaar but it is way out of my price range, I was looking to buy one for under £300, and maybe buy 2 if the first one works well. Does anyone have a solution/ know a prebuilt machine that i can use. Thanks

Do you have to remove the "paint" on these before you melt them?

Hey I think there are some europe countries that has precious plastic communitys but aren't either on the map or discord channels.Can the admins do something?

@hf12 try to post it in #deleted-channel

Hello, I'm new to Precious Plastic, but very excited to join such a creative group. I am interested in Polyethylene foam, kind of like the stuff that is used for shipping padding. I see most of the creations are solid, but is it possible to create closed cell polyethylene with recycled packaging foam. Will I need to inject some air or gas at the end of the extruder to create the foam. Would like something with .5-.25 mm cell. Thanks.

Do you have to remove the "paint" on these before you melt them?

@BotPlays No

Hey guys. I stumbled upon this amazing project just yesterday. I’m wondering if PP is still active in Eindhoven? I’d like to come in contact with someone of the team to pay a visit to the shop if possible. Who can set me up?

@Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug , I have one like this in development (it's a grinder, not shredder). I will let you know how it performs. I think @Butte (PP Philippines) can give insights on such design (input size, shredding time, output flake size, etc...). Belt systems have transmission limits btw (1:10 as max or so), for high torque applications (thick plastic) you will need dual axis which implies expensive motors, etc... I think 4k for the v4 shredder is ok, should be more in the 2-3k range considering the value but that would need also better manufacturing/production capabilities to buy cheaper but also gain better overall quality.

our shredder is 600 rpm at 5hp with 9 rotating blades and 2 fixed blades

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our local sale price we have been able to bring down the cost to 1790USD. with our design. We would have not been able to build the official v4 design at this cost

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Hey! I’m looking for someone in Vancouver British Columbia Canada who runs a workspace or has a shredder/extrusion machine. I’m thinking about the beginning steps of starting a workspace and would love to see one that is already up and running. Would love to see the machines in action!

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Does anyone have/use a rotary mold machine? Was reading an article and supposedly there was a design for one

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@Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug I built one of these grinders a while back with 10hp motor. These are high production units and they make A LOT of noise, so they are not ideal for a small shop but rather an industrial installation. Looking at the pictures you sent the blades seem to be small or welded, which is not recommended. This design also uses a flywheel and I don't see one on the pictures you sent. When you buy a machine as this you run it and test it beforehand to see if it is what fits your needs. Make sure blades are hardened, and that you can resharpen and replace easily.

Does anybody know why i can't write in the #deleted-channel channel (is this happening to other people)???

Thanks @TruthTeller @Butte (PP Philippines) and @minvayu Auroville Your shared knowledge is very much appreciated.

@GarrettCadou you want someone to experience building precious plastic machines or you want experiencED precious plastic machinists to build you some machines

. Either way can I bring my scuba gear?

hello everyone my names kev, im new to this community platform this is my first post however i have been following the precious plastics projects on youtube for some time... i think its great what you guys an girls do an would love to engage with likeminded people for help and advice

if advice is needed

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engineer here, just ask away (edited)

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we are all here to help make the world a cleaner place

@Taire hey im an artistic designer but ive been designing more technical machines. I studied basic physics at highschool and my idea concept in theory should work it breaks some physics laws but exploits gravity as an input source of energy so my thinking is potentially gravity is a free source of energy if the material load at each stage is specific enough to balance the difference of the energy generated to the energy consumed through work.

Is there any shop in the US that sells HDPE beams? Or making injection molds

Hi! im new here, is there any chanel related to project kamp?

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found it!

Hi everyone. I'm new on this platform. I'm in Perth, Western Australia and my first project will be the basic shredder. Just not able to download the plans to do it. Wasted some time searching on the website with startup kits, but not able to locate the actual download for the building plans. Anyone can steer me to the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks heaps.

@Enviro Right here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredder

Desktop SJ35 extruder, pelletizer, granulating line - RobotDigg

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Somehow my computer can not download the zip files. Any easy PDF's? I'm good on the tools, computers are not my thing. Cheers

@CitSciWorkshop How did that plastic turn out on the laser cutter?

Yeah it will cut but I don't like the HAZ it gets. Doable, not optimal (edited)

Hello

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Im planning to do kind of bowls by using materials as fruits, which machine should i build?

quick technical question, does the pro extruder get hot enough to extrude PET as well?

Can anyone tell me the strength of the sheet product? Is making shelves of this material a reasonable use?

@Hieronymus_dB , technically yes, with good heatbands and insulations. it's just most screws and barrels used for this builds are not up for the job, I won't put PET in any of those machines

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@drakehawk1 you could use any material spec, in case of the sheetpress there is much less pressure involved so strength properties might be affected by up to 30%, depends a lot on the process too. - just a guess

@TruthTeller ah ok. Do you know of any low cost alternatives for PET extrusion?

@Hieronymus_dB , not really, only some lab like equipment on robodigg: https://www.robotdigg.com/product/1752/Desktop-SJ35-extruder,-pelletizer,-granulating-line

Desktop SJ35 Extruder SJ35-Desket is part number for the Desktop Extruder Pelletizer filament cutting machine GL-Tractor...

Cool thanks!

I suppose place to do matter but anyway.. I am from Nepal and I am planning to start a recycling plant over there. I am currently in South Korea since last 9 years.. i have researched about the recycling business, processed the paperwork for registration, acquired land and other resources.. I know Nepal regarded as a third world country but its where these types of business models are required and sadly there are none(absolutely none). We will be collecting and handling all the plastic garbage to making a finished products on our own location. If someone would like to be a part of this business project you are most welcomed. I am sorry if the english explanation was not understandable but one thing I am serious about is starting this business. I am not talking about two room two machine business but a business that circulates recyclable product of a city. If there are like minded people do mail me(sdeepeesh@yahoo.com ) for further discussion. A great fan precious plastic family. Kudos to you guys. You have inspired me a lot.

Hello guys my name is rief,i'm come from indonesia,and i wanna be a part of this community

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Hi, I am building Shredder pro in India, but I am struck with one thing, the place where Iam residing does have any stokes of C45 bars and other steels are not available in Hex bars, due to which lathe machinist is costing me a lot, but Mild steel is definitely available in Hex bar, but I am not sure about its yeild strength, I browsed in precious plastic web, I found material strength has to be 350Mpa, eventually Mild Steel is of 400Mpa. So can I go ahead with Mild steel, with carburizing it.. please help me with this (edited)

I am using cold rolled mild steel for the axels

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For me it's working fine

Alright, thanks so much for help...but may I know from how many days your using the shredder

U mean since I build it

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That has bin about 2 ish years

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With a few hours of run time almost every da

Hello can I get blueprint for plastic shredder machine

The blades (harddox 650) worn down faster then the axels

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Colos20

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I believe I have to buy those

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But u have other cat drawings

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That are very similar to the shredder pro

Ohw

And u can have those for free

Where should I get for free

Thanks you @alan the mec. Engineer

PM me later today

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I have those on my pc but I am at work atm

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Dont know if this is allowed to give blueprints for free here

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Also no zub

@Colos20 you can download from precious plastic web, in download kits option

Is it free tho

I downloaded it for free

Hmm

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I had to buy the small shredder I played for I believe

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Meh

Thank very much brothers

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I need for my final year project

Sane

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I have build some shredders at home and now I am gonna build one for school

@Taire bro can u send file of how to make shredders, Cuz i have problem with PP file

It is not the official pp shredder

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It's a shredder I made myself

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I do however have the small one

@Taire so you didnt have the blueprint? Or file?

I do of the small one

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Just not the shredder pro

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And wich cad software do u use

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Cus u chould send u the step file

quick technical question, does the pro extruder get hot enough to extrude PET as well?

@Hieronymus_dB yes, but you will only get some crap results. PET comes out as a liquid.

Hi @Butte (PP Philippines), that is what we are trying to achieve. Will want to process it further to create fibers.

@Hieronymus_dB you need a melt blow machine. or a spinnerette

We are trying to design a low cost melt blown production line. An extruder needs to be part of it, right?

you can lready buy a setup from robot dgg cheaper than building yourself

https://www.robotdigg.com/m/product/1773/Meltblown-Nonwoven-Extrusion-Screw-and-Barrel#

Meltblown Nonwoven Extrusion Screw and Barrel - RobotDigg

Meltblown Nonwoven Extrusion or Injection The melt blown process is a nonwoven manufacturing system involving direct conversion of a polymer into continuous filaments, integrated with the conversion o...

Thanks thanks!!!

Hello! Azy here. I heard about Precious Plastic during an interview my tutor had with the founder of Waltic, Fede Baroni. The videos that was created on YouTube are really insightful for someone like me who has always been curious about plastics but don't really know where to start.

@Butte (PP Philippines) is that a complete machine or just the screw and barrel needed?

Hey guys. I’m trying to shred hdpe commercial size fishing nets with the PP basic shredder - has anyone tried this? Do they have any tips?

Hi I'm Eve from Paris (Fr). I'm just starting a residency in the FabLab Simplon. I want to focus on the production of simple objects in small amount, using recycled plastic (mainly HDPE, maybe PP). My goal is to use only machines that are commonly available in FabLabs or even methods that can be applied in most private houses. In order to get enough plastic waste, I'm planning to start a small local collection point.

Hi, can somebody tell me if even a small amount of fume exposure is like harmful? I just burned some plastic for a college project and i am super worried about if i've breathed some of it in (edited)

Just a small amount isn't directly harmful

3:47 PM

Only u should keep it to am minimum at all times

oh okay, thanks for u help

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Np

Hi, does anyone know where we can communicate with one of the main people from the channel?

Great news today. I have secured a work space to start a worth while project. Taking plastic and turning it into a kinesthetic Mental Health therapy program. Here starts the hard work.

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Hi Everybody!!

Greetings from Vancouver Island in British Columbia Canada! I'm new to the Discord but wanted to say "HI" here. I'm working to develop a workspace in Victoria B.C. called Flipside Plastics. (edited)

@FlipsidePlastics . Hello. Good luck on your journey.

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Hi, Iam starting plastic recycling in India, so just wanted to know the efficiency of Worm gears, can I implement in stredder

I set up a Precious Plastic group on MeWe due to the rampant FB censorship happening. https://mewe.com/group/5fa8a4fb788b5d71414e1e93

MeWe: The best chat & group app with privacy you trust.

Brilliant features with no BS. No Ads. No Spyware. MeWe is the Next-Gen Social Network.

https://mewe.com/join/preciousplastic

MeWe: The best chat & group app with privacy you trust.

Brilliant features with no BS. No Ads. No Spyware. MeWe is the Next-Gen Social Network.

@Butte (PP Philippines) which group?

4:51 AM

joined, btw.

Precious Plastic link above.

4:52 AM

Uploading is a bit slow right now as the servers are really getting loaded up. Will try to mirror all the youtube videos there

I meant which group is censoring or is it FB censoring a group

Fb is censoring several of my friends. We have the stats. My post reach went to almost zero with the pay to play system. Despite spending around 100usd a month on ads on FB, and having over 7500 followers, the average unpaid post barely reached 300 people.

Yeah I've had the same experience especially with ads.

We are barely reaching anyone now. Even when running ads.

4:56 AM

in addition my feed is now full of ads from Chinese companies running some really scammy ads

I had to build and buy one of their more advanced styles to get interaction and it just really only pays for hits to stay on FB

Slowly broadening my reach outside of the walled garden.

4:58 AM

I would love to upload all the PP videos to Bitchute

So MeWe has a paywall, like a premium account style?

yea, there is a paid influencer section, so kinda like ads

4:59 AM

still exploring the options.

4:59 AM

I ditched Yahoo 2 days ago after 21 years of having a account there

I think we're all seeking the simplicity of social media ala 2009 without the savvy of 2020 data tracking.

yes

or the mistakes of spam in 2006

i miss the old social media and forums

5:00 AM

Facebook back int he day was a blatant ripoff of Faceparty

yeah me too, ala Reprap.org and letsmakerobots

same colors and design

5:01 AM

Yeah. reprap still has a ton of good ideas on there.

5:01 AM

you could mine that forum for a decade and still not find all the gems of ideas worth doing

they benefit from full time mods. also, is that where I recognize you from? Old school reprap?

maybe

5:02 AM

I had AutoX3D printers going on back then

yes, I was just getting started when the first Mendels came out

speaking of printers, i got one disassembled on the floor of my office right now

5:03 AM

lol

5:04 AM

I need to buy another one this week. I have the prototype 1000usd cnc plasma table that needs a few trim parts

cool. Plasma for making structure parts for machines?

I'm thinking of making that auto injector and adapting it to 2d metal parts vs. milling

Side project. 2x2 foot aka 600x600mm work area low cost cnc plasma

5:07 AM

i need a plasma for those small brackets and stuff like that

5:08 AM

my last workaway guy took the ideas and ran with it to a production capable commercial machine at 1/3 less than the crossfire cnc

that's a good thing, yeah?

of course

5:10 AM

shipping to the Philippines is such a hassle that anything coming in is doubled in cost

5:10 AM

this is local made

5:11 AM

laser cut, cnc bent, grbl controller and runs off a cell phone

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yeah I feel like listing prices are subjective rn. showing a shipping cost would even things out quite a lot.

here, customs is corrupt,

5:12 AM

so they rip everyone off

5:13 AM

if i buy from the USA and there is a free trade agreement, the Philippines customs will not follow it

5:13 AM

supposed to be free trade, but instead here to the USA is no tax and USA to here is whatever the customs official can get away with. usually 12-100% tax

Honestly in the last year especially US customs was totally inconsistent and hard to adjust for too.

5:15 AM

Tariffs, surprise duties to some, holds. etc.

back later. lunch time here

Hi. I'm Javier from Valencia (Spain). I'm trying to get financing to set up a injection workshop. I need graphic material such as, videos, photos... about the proceses to create a good and catchy portfolio of the project. Could any-one share me anything?

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Hy guys, anyone up to talk about the catterpillar source code by precious plastic?

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@deleted-role what is the origin for the 8 hour polystyrene melting limit per week?

8:02 PM

I assume its for health purposes but where did you get the number?

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/D3D_CNC_Torch_Table

D3D CNC Torch Table

9:12 PM

may be worth a look for plasma table

9:13 PM

i think marcin is using it for Oxy-Fuel now, but adding an off the shelf plasma torch should be relatively straightforward

Hello, my name is Joshua, I live in Scranton , Pennsylvania USA. I am looking for information/tests that have been done on the plastic bricks. I want to build a house and someone brought a question up of flammability. Do we have data somewhere?

i think between flamability, degradation over time, offgassing, instability once heated, and all that it isn't too great of an idea. Also could be used for something better (many other things can be bricks/walls and do it better, many things can't fill the role of plastics). But that is my take

1:25 AM

Hard data is needed though

1:25 AM

I know someone did flamability of various 3d prints

1:25 AM

And i would assume collapse of the walls due to melting would occur much quicker than burning

1:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7l0Aaysy_8

Maker's Muse

Do 3D Prints Catch Fire? ABS / PLA / PETG Burn Test - Episode 1

1:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BQr2RUJZsE

Igor's Workshop

3D Printing Materials Flammability | Comparing the Most Common Mate...

Does anyone know of a good method of removing plastic lining from aluminium cans? In a batch kinda way

@Rai Are you aiming to use the aluminium, or plastic, or both?

@Karl Sagan Do you first shred the cans? When you melt the aluminium the plastic layer will burn, right? So better filter the smoke?

yes plastic will burn if melted

12:04 PM

but

12:05 PM

there is soo little aluminum in cans u need truck loads to get a sisable amound of metal

Not a very desirable alloy either, tends to be near pure aluminium for deep drawing

Wasn't hoping to cut them first but if it's significantly easier that way then that's fine. Using the aluminium - I've got loads of cans so that's why I wanna burn as little as possible yk

Hello

my name is Hugo Cortez and I’m doing a senior capstone on how to reduce plastic (edited)

7:30 PM

and I came across this solution and it’s very similar to my idea i came up with

7:32 PM

And I was wondering if I could get some references and sources for my capstone. Anything is appreciated

Does anyone sell these bricks in the UK / Europe? How much are they?

Hello everyone, my name is Joshua Kachina. I am a member of Dusbin group: a youth volunteer group in Nigeria. We're out to revamp the delapidated waste management facilities & services in our city in North Central Nigeria. We hope to donate over 200,000 waste bins to residents of our municipality. Does anyone has information on where we can get dust bins at a subsidized price? Please any valuable information on funding our project, would also be well appreciated. Thanks.

Hello my name is Aliya. I am studying at high school! I want to implement hands-fee door opener from how-to on your site. However, there is no info on what type of plastic would be better to use. HDPE???

@Zhonikka You can use HDPE,PP or PS but don´t mix

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PreciousPlasticJapan and shredder modification nor smaller motor. https://youtu.be/6wW3t08BuV4

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FV#1 What the world is short of. Tender-san DynamicLab / Precious P...

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@togawamanabu This video is really beautiful, thank you. :)

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@ThomasPeterberns thank you

Hi everyone, I am currently working for a start up who create sportswear from recycled plastic but we are not able ton find a provider for zip made in recycled plastic. Is there someone in the community who is creating some ? Is it even possible ? Thx a lot for your answers

Ciao everyone, we are ilVespaio from Milan and we want to share with you our latest project about recycled plastic for the schools. It's called Plastic Fighters . Children and kids join to collect and recycle plastic at school and in the neighborwood to produce recycled plastic objects for the local community. We started the workshops in a couple of schools in Milan and we have already brought PP machines to show the children all the recycle process. In the next days other designers will create furniture for the school with the children. http://plastic-fighters.it/

Plastic fighters

This is our shredder in action! The transparent hopper is perfect for children to see what's going on inside. It has even a hole to throw inside bottle caps in a ultra-safe way.

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Hello! Please write where you can find drawings for the bio-press. I just can't find them on the site. Or are they not yet?

@Artem If you download the whole kit it should be in the folder marked “Research”. At least it was there the last time I checked.

@Nicolas Lamoureux (PPYQG) Thanks, I'll check it now. The Machine Shop package does not have this folder.

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Hey everyone, greetings from Brazil/ Rio de Janeiro! I am really glad that i found this server! It will help me a lot to be connected with you all and so i will be able to lean even more about Precious Plastic around the world! I am a Graphic Designer who also teach about technologie, programming and the maker world to my students. It feels great to have found this place! Two weeks ago, in one of my classes i have talked about Precious Plastic project and my class was super excited about it!

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Heyyy

9:24 AM

What do u guys think is it possible to not use an injection machine but just melf the plastic in the oven and then pour it into the mould. I'm 16 and I don't think that I could build the machine. There is no precise info on how to build (no measurements). So why do u think???????

9:25 AM

And please do u know any alternative to cnc cut and aluminium mould. I heard that is pricy. And I want to make quite complex mould.

@Zhonikka I got started im my kitchen oven. Moulds are the sticking point. I press my plastic in to homemade wooden moulds, using claps to get the pressure. Then I use hand tools to cut and shape the component parts I want. This is messy but a load of fun.

My first mold was a big piece of alu

1:17 PM

U filled

1:17 PM

Yes filed to shape

Do u think which method is better to create a mold for the injection machine? And which material is better(aluminum)? I know that cnc cut is pricy but I want to make precise product. I’m not sure about wood mold but thank u for sharing your experiences❤️ Do u think if I buy a mould and just melt plastic and then pour it into the mould to make this products would be ok?

@Zhonikka measurements for every machine is in download kit, do you have that? Pouring melted plastic into the mold could be messy, ineffective and perhaps also dangerous? You would need well preheated mould so plastic won't cool down during filling also to fit more complex mould you need to apply pressure, so you'll still need some kind of plunger to push the plasric in etc etc. There are a lot of inconveniences to solve... If you can't build the injection, have a look at compression machine maybe?

Thank u @magi SVK

hello

Hello, my name is Talhah Patelia - from South Africa

Hello, I’m from Colombia and I’m just starting to learn about reusing plastic to generate new products. I wanted to know if anyone have had any experience or how can we prevent these products to be thrown away again

@talhahpatelia Hello! Be sure to check out #🌽africa , look forward to working with you!

12:05 AM

@Juan Antonio Africano I think two main things: 1.) Product Design: Make something durable, and useful 2.) A "Deposit-Refund" System, or a "Pay-for-Recyclables" system Encourage them giving you any plastic that does get "thrown away" back to you

12:06 AM

Also just educate + form an "anti-waste culture" locally

Thank you Eric!

Hi everyone! I have two questions: 1) Does anyone plan to create a mold for iphone 12 cases? 2) Me and my friend are planning to introduce the Recycled Brick to our city council. And as we would like to really impress them to have the highest possible chance to make this happen - we thought about 3D printing a smaller version of the bricks just to show them how they can be put together and how they can be used (in a 1:10 model size). So my question is whether anyone have a STL model of the brick and is willing to share it? Thank you very much

It's not 100%, but damn impressive for something made of mostly plastic:

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4:00 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN2g572FZOo

Brian Brocken

3D-printed shredder

Hello, I am Mololuwa Akintunde from Nigeria and I am new here , I work with STAC Greencycling a waste management organisation and we are set to redefine the waste and are advocating proper waste management culture, we are currently working on creating more effective methods for plastic disposal majorly through reuse.

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@Eric Lotze Yeah that's impressive

5:09 AM

The box design itself is really nice.

Greets folks

8:07 AM

Anyone about?

New saying hi and would like to get into doing this at home nice to meet you guys

Hi, I'm David Youk from Korea and i'm new here. I'm developing/ producing costume jewelry for the brands . i'm glad to meet you guys .

Hola! I'm Kim from Barcelona. I handcraft recycled plastic.

️ https://www.instagram.com/kimiekimie/ I'm looking for the online lecdture from Recious plastic for Craft Now. so happy to join this community (edited)

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Hi everyone. I am new to this Precious Plastic thingy! I am living in Cape Verde where loads of ocean plastics are being washed ashore. I have the idea of setting up some small-scale recycling plant and recycle plastics collected. I just don't know where to start and was hoping for some advice here. I read there is some DIY recycling plants which would be a good start as I don't have money and currently, it is difficult to get anything delivered here anyways....My next big worry is cleaning the ghost nets and other plastics properly before recycling. How is that done?

@KIM That actually looks quite brilliant. Nice work.

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@KIM Curious to know how do you make your recycled plastic thread and what type of plastic do you use?

Hello everyone, I'm Isaac or RustedFriend on insta and youtube. Mostly instagram for now, but hopefully more videos soon. I built a super simple extruder screw injection machine in highschool and have been itching to revisit that project for years. I'm finally in a position where I can build up some machines and set up a community recycling point at my shop. In the next month or so i'm hoping to build a shredder, extruder to make 3d printing filament, and a screw extruder.

10:45 PM

I did a proof of concept the other day to see if I could machine just the correct geometry to make a screw. This one is really rough, but the proof of concept worked so I'm going to pick up some stainless and try to do a proper one next week.

10:45 PM

First of all, on the note of a 3D Printer Filament Maker, do visit this comment of mine and give it an upvote so we can get a channel for that specifically: https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/599284493525843984/778369673095938048 (edited)

10:46 PM

THEN

10:46 PM

now just talking on all the cool stuff you are doing: (edited)

10:47 PM

Was that a manual lathe i assume (not cnc) ?

@Eric Lotze upvoted, haha. And yeah, it's a manual lathe. I've got a 3 axis flatbed cnc, but I'm just recently getting into machining. Both my lathe and mill are manual.

i have no hardware more than the usual drill + rotary tool etc, so i'm nowhere near even your level, so you're good there lol

10:55 PM

Seems fine though, just more labor intensive than churning em out on an automated cnc lathe! (edited)

10:55 PM

Have you tested it with anything yet?

Nope. That screw wasn't to any particular dimensions. I don't even think I have a pipe it'll fit :p it was more just seeing if I could figure out how to cut the geometry of a screw with a set inner diameter at both ends but variable for a section in the middle.

11:02 PM

I'm also planning on building all my machines so they're modular and are driven by the lathe. Motors and gearboxes are the biggest impediment to me actually finishing the project because they are costly and difficult to diy :p so I figured my lathe is a good substitute because it's probably the thing with the most torque in some large radius around my shop. Haha.

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Have you heard of the group "OSE / Open Source Ecology" yet?

Nope

(Definitely not a boilerplate answer I just copied and pasted here) Basically a group dedicated to making all the open source hardware needed to build/run a small town/farm. Complex to explain so perhaps watch the ted talk and check it out? Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page (edited)

Yeah. That sounds interesting. I'll definitely take a look.

Especially given your hardware development work!

11:07 PM

How do you think one would couple the lathe to the other machines?

I haven't fully decided. I was considering a flat belt on the chuck to drive a line shaft. But I want the shredder to sit right on the ways, so maybe a gear or v belt that I just put in the chuck.

Hi everyone :) I’m new in this precious plastic discord I’m based in Mexico City

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I'm in jacksonville florida, usa-ish area so way more east, but similar climate to a certain degree

5:54 AM

The #deleted-channel channel is pretty active for very local stuff you may be interested in (edited)

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Hello to the PP community. I'm from Israel and want to start my own plastic shop in Israel. for my business i wanted to ask if you can use the extrusion machine for making plastic filament? I only need to know if that's possible

Hi all, I'm looking to make tiles to cover a greenhouse, sort of like shingles. Do you think this is possible with recycled plastic (UV and cold considerations)? I don't have the space or engineering ability to built a sheet-press, so I was thinking of using a t-shirt heat press. Terrible idea? Please Help!

Good evening everyone

Greetings from western Germany - looking forward for things i can learn here.

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hello, my name and Natale Cassuli, I was impressed with all the machines and how they work, I would love to set up a similar system in my city, I live in a small town in the interior of the Amazon - Brazil

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10:59 PM

Sorry for my english, I don’t speak very well

Don't worry about your English, it's actually good.

@Greenhouse? a heatpress can be expensive. I read an idea somewhere on here to use grill/broilers/sandwich makers. I bought 3 secondhand flat grills for 11 euros tonight..

okay guys, confess, who did this? https://9gag.com/gag/an4oVDB

Wait for the grand finale!

Watch the video and join the fun convo with 9GAG community

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Hi anybody making bucket molds?

2:28 PM

How much would a mold like that cost? For a 10lt buckey

@Greenhouse? some people use that t-shirt heat presses (edited)

@titosk8ordie

7:14 PM

if u want i chould cnc a mold for you

7:14 PM

at work we make those alot

@Taire sure if u could do something like 5hat would. Be greatly appreciated

do u have the files for them

7:20 PM

aka cad of the mold

Good explainer of the CreaSolv process. The energy requirements make it less attractive than polydiketoenamine (PDK). Also it falls in the category of, in the future, fixing some the damage already done, instead of preventing the damage in the first place. It shouldn't be seen as "blank cheque" to keep making as much plastic as we want. "Prevention is better than cure." Also, when big corporations are involved, there's always a catch. Time will tell where this one is. Also, sorry if it's already been posted. I couldn't find it. Making recycled plastic as good as new — Just Have a Think (July 2020) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wliz5ALNqc4 (edited)

Making recycled plastic as good as new

Given the rebuttals of Planet Of The Humans by reputable environmentalists and the mainstream media "embrace" and subsequent media "circus" around its censorship, the whole YouTube take-down is starting to smell an awful lot like a "false flag" attack by corporate FUD strategists. It's like when advertising agencies make risque ads and then file complaints against their own work to get it "banned" from TV, thereby generating fake "controversy" to gain more free word-of-mouth advertising and views. We have a local agency that is notorious for doing this with Nando's ads. Planet Of The Humans rebuttal https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmNjLHRAP2U

Planet of the Humans : Let's just have a think...

Perhaps you would be getting more feedback if the server would "allow feedback" in the #deleted-channel section?

2:58 AM

I cant post there. I wanted to post that it seems difficult to add myself to the map, in fact at one time a year or so ago I believe I placed myself as a shop on the map and now nothing. Will keep trying to add myself to the map...

Grab a role from the #🖐start-here channel @Mirco (CANADA, ON)

Ok, great! Thanks. will look at that.

#deleted-channel hey guys, my pin on the pp map is still on moderation, how long does it take usually to have it on the map?

Hey guys I mainly use LDPE and HDPE when making items from my injection machine, however been giving the opportunity to get a lot of PP. Can anyone tell me what its like to use this plastic, in any way. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

@Zero Plastics Australia For me PP works better in the injection as HDPE. Easier to fill the mould and the surface qualities are better. Just 20*C higher temperature in my machine.

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@Frederik C (ZA) Interesting Tech. I wonder what solvent they are using, also how it does with multi layer plastics, metalized films, and things like fiberglass.

5:53 PM

I need to see if pyrolysis is less straightforeward/useful than i think it is

@Eric Lotze "Secret sauce." So, McDonald's ketchup, I guess.

A vile of the stuff is probably being FedExed to Shenzhen as we speak.

Hey guy! How's going? I was wondering how to understand the sheet about the motor from. The shredder straight from the website. I was looking for one but my research are poorly related to what I need, so if someone have some spare time just to explained each section (especially the 4-5 bottoms ones) I would appreciate your help! (edited)

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto yeah I find HDPE quite hard to use in the injection machine, however find LDPE is perfect for what we want. I've been given a large amount of PP to test in my injection machine, do you have any optimal temperatures that you would recommend? Understanding that this is still to be tested and change per plastic, but just a ball park number?

@Zero Plastics Australia I use 180*C for PP and 162 for HDPE;)

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@Kol_Oss here by explenation bout those values Voltage: the nominal power the motor is designd to run at

8:22 AM

the power of a wall socket if for example 230v in europe

8:23 AM

and 380-400v is 3 phase

8:23 AM

nominal power

8:24 AM

is a value thats used to tell u what amount of power is taken up by the motor in this case 1.5Kw at 380-400v

8:24 AM

amps is the amout of curent a motor uses

8:25 AM

an normal home socket is in most of the times good for 16 amps

8:25 AM

and if u take more then that a fuse blows

8:25 AM

the torque

8:26 AM

is the amount of of power a motor can make before stalling out

8:26 AM

and speed

8:27 AM

is the amout of rpms aka the number of turns perminute that the out put shaft runs at

8:27 AM

in this case 70 RPM

8:27 AM

(if u have more questions feel free to dm, see those faster then here)

okay guys, confess, who did this? https://9gag.com/gag/an4oVDB

@magi SVK That was glorious. Like guy faulks without the scared pets, scared wildlife or smoke.

Wait for the grand finale!

Watch the video and join the fun convo with 9GAG community

Guys i have a little question when designing with recycled plastic do you design with the plastic in mind as the end product or do you design with the plastic as a tool in the process? https://youtu.be/9866dmfJxUU Ive been thinking of creating decorative edges using white plastic on the melamide.

Robin Lewis Makes

How To Make A Concrete Countertop, It's Easier Than You Think

@Taire Big thanks for the information! Now I'm wondering how I convert this for American standard

I see

4:18 PM

It's only the voltage that's different I believe

Hi Precious Plastics! Trying hard to reach you to collaborate on a new project in Canada, helping the global independent plastics recycling industry to prove and/or improve health safety and environment protocols.

10:07 PM

Your work is so awesome! We love your vision and mission! As your videos are open source, we want our project to be open source as well to benefit everyone. In order to prevent any unintended consequences, we really need to collaborate! https://lakesideleader.com/local-group-hopes-to-start-plastic-re-manufacture-project/

Admin2017

Local group hopes to start plastic re-manufacture project | Lakesid...

Pearl Lorentzen Lakeside Leader Slave Laker Jule Asterisk has been interested in plastic since she was a child in the 1970s. With the Society of High Prairie Regional Environmental Action Committee (REAC), she is embarking on a five-year Plastics Re-manufacture Project to investigate how rural and remote communities can turn plastic waste into u...

10:09 PM

The government of Alberta has just said that we are going to become a 'world leader' in plastics recycling, so we hope to strike while the iron is hot. We are working to access science from virgin plastics manufacturers here: if they plan to continue producing millions of tonnes of virgin plastic each year, we feel like they need to be part of the solution when it comes to plastics recycling and remanufacture as well.

10:10 PM

Please reach out via email to juleasterisk@gmail.com or via phone at 780 805-1709.

... or feel free to reply to me directly on Discord. I have to say, I am getting a bit lost in the various group chats, that's why I offered my direct contact information. Thank you to everyone who cares about plastics and not leaving a mess for future generations! Here is 'My Life as a Plastic Bottle', a video we produced with the Society of High Prairie Regional Environmental Action Committee (also sponsoring the Plastic Remanufacture Project) https://www.canadahelps.org/en/charities/the-society-of-high-prairie-regional-environmental-action-committee/ (in two parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVB7LRnNDRY&t=36s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhga6or4dQQ&t=17s

Jule Asterisk

My Life as a Plastic Bottle: part 1

Jule Asterisk

My Life as a Plastic Bottle: part 2

11:49 PM

This was produced in 2002 for the Grade 4 Science Curriculum Unit called 'Waste and Our World'. If you want the Teachers' and Students' guides, let me know and I can send them to you

Heya, looking for production timelines if anyone can help, stuff like how long does it take to fill a 25mmx25mmx1000mm tube

Hallo, just popped in. I am a 3D printing guy, not for long, but i have the intention to recycle the PLA waist for printing new things. While i was searching for an shredder i saw this nice group of recycle loving people. Searched deeper here for 3D printing waist but there is not much for now. So I think there is an opportunity.

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Kasper (UTC+2) 3Duicelake

Hallo, just popped in. I am a 3D printing guy, not for long, but i have the intention to recycle the PLA waist for printing new things. While i was searching for an shredder i saw this nice group of recycle loving people. Searched deeper here for 3D printing waist but there is not much for now. So I think there is an opportunity.

Yes! Totally agree that 3D printing is a huge opportunity for recycling plastic! I did see a couple of comments about someone doing 3D printing earlier in the #archived-collection PP channel. Sorry I forget the specifics, maybe you can have a look?

I also requested a channel in #under development for a Filament Maker (a machine that makes, and spools filament for FDM 3D Printers)

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11:48 PM

https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/599284493525843984/778369673095938048

@Eric Lotze https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/extruder/extruder-fully-built/3d-printer-filament-maker-full-kit-clone/

Machines :: Extruder :: Extruder Fully Built :: 3D Printer Filament...

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https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGPuphjncuC/

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11:55 PM

There is definetly work and designs, i just want a channel to organize, as well as continue development of such a device

11:56 PM

The lack of a need for molds makes 3D Printing VERY versitile (albeit slower than injection molding, and extrusion, thermoforming, etc) (edited)

I agree with you on the mould front

11:57 PM

And it would be nice

11:57 PM

to have a channel

11:58 PM

I've already been working on a GIANT 3D printer to skip the filament step all together with great results thus far....but tbh I think Ill create a how to before we add the channel...but who knows!

11:58 PM

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11:59 PM

^^in case you are interested

@Taire sorry for the late answer, but how should I search this motor on eBay / other seller?

someone speake spanish? i write from argentina and dont know moch english

Check out #🍌latin-america

Or use a google translator works best when on a desktop

4:52 AM

@Eric Lotze just created that channel in #precios plastic Canada server, great idea! (edited)

@Eric Lotze theanks you!

@Eric Lotze hey bud ive been doing some diggìng on filament making and ive came to the conclusion that to make filament and have better quality filament it might be an idea to extrude the filament twice (i know its an extra step but please hear me out) when flake is extuded it isnt consistent colour its shaded or has streaks of colour if however we extrude and turn the extrusion into chips/pellets we could have more consistent regimental colours on the ream of filament this would be especially helpful when working with bottle tops of similar colour but looking for a standardised print from the 3d printer. (edited)

12:05 PM

From what ive read hdpe seems to behave similarly to abs in the 3d printing world this would need confirmed by a 3d printing expert but the colour range posibilitys would be pretty large considering the hdpe colour pallet (+our ability to create better colour uniformity via double extrusion)

this question has probably been asked but can a normal extruder be used to make filament?

the issue is not "can it make a string of plastic" the real issue is "what will the tolerances be of the filament's diameter"

3:38 AM

Most 3d printers base the amount of flow, and thus layer height etc on a constant 1.5mm or 3.0mm filament

3:39 AM

if it is going from 1.4-1.7mm randomly "along the line" due to poor tolerances, the 3D Print itself will have random Over/under extrusions

3:39 AM

This can be solved at either end, either make a smart 3d printer, or a smart filament maker

3:40 AM

The real need is a 1 or 2 axis filament diameter sensor

3:40 AM

(granted if you can tweak a machine to get consistent without one you are fine as well, but a sensor makes it easier)

3:41 AM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Prusament

Prusament

3:42 AM

prusament is the "gold standard" for tolerances/consistency, to the point of being overkill

3:42 AM

You can get away with some, especially if using a wide nozzle, and not caring about if the part is dimentionally accurate "off the plate"

3:43 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLCpNIx3O0M&feature=youtu.be&t=345

Thomas Sanladerer

I saw how Prusament and the Prusa i3 MK3 are made! (we find some ea...

3:43 AM

they have a GIANT line, not certain how necessary that all is, most of the designs on here are quite small

3:43 AM

It may be due to the water cooling + drying needs?

3:44 AM

Either way some sort of sensor, or user measuring + tweaking of the machine is needed to get good reliable filament. Especially with recycled plastic, which can vary from batch to batch more than "raw" plastic due to chemical degradation.

I see

there were some neat projects on trying to make such a sensor (the laser ones are...expensive lol)

so either.. A. get lucky or B. use a sensor

yup

5:06 AM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Filament_Diameter_Sensor

Open Source Filament Diameter Sensor

5:06 AM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder

Make your own cell phone case using CAM

5:06 AM

i am organizing the info for now there, again the channel will help as well

alright thx

no problem!

https://academy.autodesk.com/cell-phone-case-CAM?mktvar002=3831661010%7CEML%7C488695528&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=3831661aexstudent-active-use&utm_id=3831661010&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTkRFMFl6VmtZVEJpT1RoaCIsInQiOiJBNnFjVE5tMlQ2VjJQeWQ5eldHTmFEaGVmQ214bTd2OWFWNXVUUnJBekR3Y2JhVFRJRjgzSkFYSXcxbnpsK2hyMWFIZGJ4QVF3ZjRTeVNCSWRKYkhOdStkVWxvdTdJNmw0OU9LaU9Xb3E2aDN6eXFLdVVXREpjWGtwZTN4MWQwVUFVcEhiR2FtVEVzaG1yckFlXC8yWExBPT0ifQ%3D%3D I personally use rhino but have to admint the tutorials on fusion 360 are awesome! here is something that teach you how to design a case

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I loved autodesk, trying to learn freecad due to no longer having an educational liscence, and not wanting to used closed source stuff

11:27 PM

I wish it will get the same amount of tutorials/community support one day as F360 lol !

11:27 PM

I did find one good channel

11:30 PM

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-CubOaooNwC-3RBKUoAOQQ

Joko Engineeringhelp

This is a channel covering Engineering Tutorials for Math and Solid Modeling, Computer Programming, some Thermodynamics and a few other topics.

Hi I am new to the PP community. But I have a few questions if anyone can help me.

1:39 AM

What ratio of plastic do you get back if you shred a plastic bottle and use that shredded plastic to re-inject a new bottle. Will you be able to repress a new bottle with a 100% yield? or do the added additives affect the yield?

1:40 AM

What happens if you do not clean the shredded plastic before you re-inject it for something new.

1:42 AM

what happens of you shred PET and HDPE and then inject them together. Does the new substance come out wrong or something?

1:43 AM

Do you have to sort out the plastic by colour, otherwise the final product will be a blend of all the plastic you recycled?

1:43 AM

-Thank You for your time, like I said I have only got into this recently. Cheers.

So by "a plastic bottle" do you mean one of the PET "Disposable" ones like this:

2:00 AM

or do you mean a water bottle like this:

2:00 AM

On the note of cleaning plastic

2:01 AM

I'd say it's almost a must, as if dirty it could clog/mess with machinery. It also makes the properties of the material less "known" which is already an issue with recycled plastics

2:02 AM

On the note of PET-HDPE blending

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2:02 AM

i don't know about those specific plastics, but blends are common in the industry

2:03 AM

In a PP (Precious Plastic) / Sustainability Context, i feel that unless they are essential to a needed product, i feel they are bad. Once mixed that blend can't be "un-blended"

2:04 AM

On the note of PET Recylcling:

2:04 AM

PET is hard to recycle in that it undergoes hydrolysis at/around it's melting point

2:05 AM

or in simple terms "it will degrade into unpredictable mush if melted in even a humid environment, let alone if the material itself is damp"

2:05 AM

It can be done though

2:05 AM

I am plotting out a workflow here:

2:06 AM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/PET_Plastic_Recycling_Workflow

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Unknown_Plastic_Waste_Workflow

2:06 AM

I hope this was helpful @radialem ?

I mean the first picture. The more common sort of plastic that people 'should' be recycling . But if you cant recycle PET and HDPE together, that significantly complicates the solution. If you shred PET, provided you store it properly, will you be able to re-inject a brand new bottle from the old one. If not. do you think that PET would be better fated for pyrolysis rather than re-moulding?

2:16 AM

Thanks for the reply and great article @Eric Lotze

PET definitely can be recycled in my opinion, it is just difficult, but once you have the right setup it should be fine, if anything beneficial as you can have clear plastic stuff ! (edited)

2:19 AM

I do love your mention of pyrolysis of "un-recyclables" !

2:19 AM

Unknown Plastic Waste Workflow

2:19 AM

i made that page kind of along this topic

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I'll be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Thanks for making machines to save the world (edited)

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Maybe I'm not the first one to ask the question but, approximately, all basic equipment (not the pro one), how could it cost making all of them?

i'd guess ~8,000 - 10,000 USD for largely new + premade (ie paying for labor) ?

4:14 AM

granted that is a guess off of my poor estimation lol

4:14 AM

also junkyard/used etc sourcing + welding+machining yourself will help with costs a lot (edited)

Let's see other people idea!

Hello, everyone. I'm a newbie, but i really want to work with recycled plastic to make things.

Hi, I'm new to the PP community. My focus is being able to design and build a household single-fase shredder. Greetings from Portugal. (edited)

Hello folks! I'm Davide from central Italy (Cesena). I'm wondering to start a small workshop, I'm a skilled lathe machinist and I'm on the way to build a shredder based on a my design (because for me is better to build the blades on the lathe rather than cutting them from steel plate). I can use the lathe at job (a CNC Mori Seiki NL with live tooling), so...I decided to made my design for the shredder. I think that I can run it on a smaller motor than the suggested, because of the sharp blades and the reduced tolerances between them. I found a 100:1 planetary reduction gearbox for free from a friend, and I think I can use it with a 0.35kw/1400rpm motor that I have at home. If someone is interested around here I'm searching for people to share the experience!

I've check the website for some resource but the website is down right now.. Someone have them outside there? (all machine except the shredder which seem to be in other website!)

@Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna sure, feelfree to share, maybe in #archived-machines channel? I personally am curious about blades. Do you have some at least sketch/overview drawing?

Has any one made fiber reinforced plastic on here

7:20 AM

magi SVK

@Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna sure, feelfree to share, maybe in #archived-machines channel? I personally am curious about blades. Do you have some at least sketch/overview drawing?

I started yesterday to draw the project on a 2D CAD. Basically it is similar to the PP one, the difference is that blades are smaller (inscribed in 90mm circle) and instead of an assembly of various blades and spacers, it is made from a solid bar, with grooves instead of spacers and milled slots to made the blades. I want to go forward this evening witn the design, at now there are no dimensioning, and section hatching at now, drawn on it, so it is something difficult to understand.

@Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna yeah, i got the idea. I was wondering about how do you turn blades on lathe, with mill it makes sense :) It'll be smthing like camshaft in engines then. Well, good luck and dont forget a pic now and then.

magi SVK

@Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna yeah, i got the idea. I was wondering about how do you turn blades on lathe, with mill it makes sense :) It'll be smthing like camshaft in engines then. Well, good luck and dont forget a pic now and then.

The blade design I want to make is this. 90mm outside diameter, 7.5mm radial tooth blade height.

7:47 AM

TheGreatDongo

Has any one made fiber reinforced plastic on here

@TheGreatDongo Not recyclable, so not so cool. But @Butte (PP Philippines) did some fibers in his pots. https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694/774068985678397471 (edited)

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I should make those blades more cutty

8:30 AM

They have quite a blunt edge on the face they should cut

8:31 AM

U wanna have them curve in

8:31 AM

This should however make a good shredder for steel

Hello everyone. I would like to be able to download the 3D models of the machines (skp) but I can only find the CAD files, did you know if they are available on the website?

Taire

U wanna have them curve in

Hi! Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately my lathe haven't the Y axis, so I can mill the teeth only that way. The only way I can give them more angle is using a bigger mill, for the drawing I assumed to use a 12mm one, I can use maybe a 20mm one, but it give me a bigger radius on the rake face (I want to have a U shape on the teeth face to give them sharper edges). Also I want to make a round groove on the external diameter to give them also a sharper edge on the flank. I haven't experience on shredders, but I have some in tools for plastic machining,so I tried to apply that knowledge on the blades.

i see

11:21 AM

its gonna be one hell of a expensive part tho

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

Hi! Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately my lathe haven't the Y axis, so I can mill the teeth only that way. The only way I can give them more angle is using a bigger mill, for the drawing I assumed to use a 12mm one, I can use maybe a 20mm one, but it give me a bigger radius on the rake face (I want to have a U shape on the teeth face to give them sharper edges). Also I want to make a round groove on the external diameter to give them also a sharper edge on the flank. I haven't experience on shredders, but I have some in tools for plastic machining,so I tried to apply that knowledge on the blades.

step files are solid 3d models.

i can't seem to find the files for the pro shredder

@altcapball Hi, download the complete V4-kit or just the shredder workspace download: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

Good evening, please I am new here but I have being following precious plastic works since 2018 and I decided to join discord today so I can gain more teaching on recycling business, also I started building my plastic shredder machine using the same method of precious plastic shredder, but when I test my machine with pet it wasn't shredded, but I discovered that the speed of my electric motor was high, thus what is the right speed of electric Motor that can give me nice shredds? And if I want to continue with the same electric motor how should i reduce the speed? Please I need urgent help.

@paulo121 hi, you need about 70RPM for basic shredder. Can you find tell what motor do you have? Power, RPM, torque maybe? Anyway you'll have to get a gearbox to reduce speed. Search for worm, bevel or basically any gearbox that reduces RPM. Looks like this.

magi SVK

@paulo121 hi, you need about 70RPM for basic shredder. Can you find tell what motor do you have? Power, RPM, torque maybe? Anyway you'll have to get a gearbox to reduce speed. Search for worm, bevel or basically any gearbox that reduces RPM. Looks like this.

Thank, but if i increase the size of my pulley to bigger one can't it reduce the speed instead of gearbox, while maintaining the motor pulley size?

@paulo121 do you have a picture? Don't know what pulley do you mean.

The diameter of my initial pulley on the shredder was 9.5" while the electric motor was 4.5"

magi SVK

@paulo121 do you have a picture? Don't know what pulley do you mean.

I will send the picture to you tomorrow because i'm out of my workshop.

you can use pulleys and belts to reduce the speed. a gearbox is not necessary. we have built close to 50 units using belt and pulley and shain and sprocked speed reduction.

3:14 AM

3:16 AM

How do you use pulleys? I'm struggling a lot to find the gearbox

7:24 AM

My motor has 1450 rpm

@paulo121 okay, no need for pic now, i translated pulley wrong :D Well yes, if you find smaller pulley for the motor or/and bigger one for a shredder, it'll do.

7:50 AM

@Criptosauro for reducing speed you need small for motor and big for shredder. Reduction ratio about 20:1 Have a look at this site and try to find your precious one. https://www.blocklayer.com/pulley-belteng.aspx @paulo121 for you also

Thank you @magi SVK

9:04 AM

Did someone use pulleys instead of gearbox? I didn't see.. all the examples I've found use gearbox (edited)

Butte (PP Philippines)

you can use pulleys and belts to reduce the speed. a gearbox is not necessary. we have built close to 50 units using belt and pulley and shain and sprocked speed reduction.

Exactly my plans and I know it going to reduce the speed, thank.

Need 2 pulley system right?

10:37 AM

@paulo121 what's the rpm of your motor?

Criptosauro

@paulo121 what's the rpm of your motor?

1470RPM

Criptosauro

@paulo121 what's the rpm of your motor?

If u can tell me the external diameter of your electric Motor pulley I will suggest for your shredder.

10:41 AM

Mine is 1450.. but similar than yours

10:41 AM

The Diameter is in cm

10:43 AM

I don't have the pulleys yet.. I think will be best try to find in old washing machines or something like that..

Criptosauro

I don't have the pulleys yet.. I think will be best try to find in old washing machines or something like that..

Nice

Criptosauro

Click to see attachment 🖼️

once you get to the lower rpm the second stange you need a double pulley or likely a chain and sprocket. We run a double b type pulley from the motor to the center axle and then a chain and sprocket from that to the shredder. we ran 5hp. it had a mountain of torque and even still would jam so we had a reverse switch

@Butte (PP Philippines) ... I was planning to use 2hp.. you think will be best to use 3hp? (edited)

Criptosauro

@Butte (PP Philippines) ... I was planning to use 2hp.. you think will be best to use 3hp? (edited)

To me the HP to use depends on the size of your shredding machine, E.g 20" *16" * 29" may need something bigger. May be chose it base on shredder size and speed needed.

But the size is the same for all of us right?

10:59 AM

I'm with the Single Shaft Shredder 2.0

Criptosauro

I'm with the Single Shaft Shredder 2.0

I'm using single shaft also.

3 hp?

7hp, because it it little bigger and much blades... Anyway we just thought of that and if we are able to adjust our speed, I belief it going to work better.

I everyone! Is there anyone from Germany in here?

Taire

its gonna be one hell of a expensive part tho

Nope, making in it the spare time can cost me just the raw materials (or maybe zero).

Hey everyone! Anyone have a good use for a universal motor? My wife dropped our blender and the plastic all broke but I saved the motor to do something with.

paulo121

7hp, because it it little bigger and much blades... Anyway we just thought of that and if we are able to adjust our speed, I belief it going to work better.

yes

9:00 PM

that whould use a vfd

9:01 PM

tho a vfd for 7 hp aint gonna be cheap

9:03 PM

also u will lose some power

9:03 PM

the amount u lose depends on the qulity of the vfd tho

Criptosauro

@Butte (PP Philippines) ... I was planning to use 2hp.. you think will be best to use 3hp? (edited)

i have used 5hp and even there it still can jam...

Taire

that whould use a vfd

I'm still new on this project, please what do you mean by vfd?

@paulo121 Variable Frequency Drive

This

Hi! Anyone here from Philippines?

Athene Glaux

Hi! Anyone here from Philippines?

yes i am

Athene Glaux

Hi! Anyone here from Philippines?

I’m from the PH!!

@arthuraloha hi,it would be great to have an art exhibition just focusing on plastic wasted.

Of note: the new emote-based roles are in order such that anyone with certain roles gets a certain colour

2:31 PM

Such that anyone with phonebloks gets grey, as it is the upper-most role

Hi, can anyone tell me why #deleted-channel is read-only for me?

Try now

Oh, great , thanks

CitSciWorkshop

@paulo121 Variable Frequency Drive

Thank

I only knew it as inverter, lol.

Hi there, my name is Andres Im an industrial designer from colombia, Im joining precious plastic community soon by setting and opening a precious plastic shop and recycling center, can someone talk to me about your experience building the machines, working with plastic making your own products, etc...

Hey guys, it's so great to be here.

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Hey ya'll! I visited the warehouse in Eindhoven a few years ago and am finally at a point where I can start doing something in my own town. I'm interested in creating an extruder for creating 3d printer filament. 1.75mm I have an Ender 3 pro and print and sell lots of eco stuff at our local craft market, so I have lots of plastic sitting around from projects that flunked and don't want to waste it. I'm also interested in grinding up other plastics and melting them down into 3d printer filament too!

I have thought about trying to make that filament for a 3D printer too but I’m unsure if I can quality control the thickness well enough for a printer to handle it

I'm looking to ISO9001 and AS9100 for the QC standards for my shop

4:33 PM

you probably don't need to be that intense about it but I think it's a good way to start thinking about it if you need to get your tolerances down

Hi everyone. I am just getting started and have a question. When cleaning plastic how do you remove the labels or do you find that you do not need to remove them? So far I have been processing a small quantity of plastic and removing the labels by hand. Very time consuming. I hope to find a faster way. Thanks.

@Tim F paper ones for sure. I think it's generally better to only process clean plastics, without labels or glue. I have good experience with hot water inside a bottle/container. Propably any heat will help, but i agree, it's time consuming.

magi SVK

@Tim F paper ones for sure. I think it's generally better to only process clean plastics, without labels or glue. I have good experience with hot water inside a bottle/container. Propably any heat will help, but i agree, it's time consuming.

Thanks for the reply. Do you use hot boiling water to soften the glue to make it easier to remove the label? Paper ones are the worst. I have been pulling off the labels as cleanly as I can and then using Goo Gone to remove any glue and remaining label. Just takes a lot of time.

@Tim F yep, pour boiling water and wait for few seconds. Plastic ones goes like in a dream. Paper ones - i often use combo of heat and humidity- hover over boiling water for few seconds.

Butte (PP Philippines)

step files are solid 3d models.

I don't need a 3d file. I'm on my way to build a new design shredder. My idea is to use less power (a lot less,300w), less speed (14rpm) to achieve a good torque from a small motor (200Nm after the 100:1 planetary gearbox I have , on a 45mm radius of the tip of the blade it means over 400kgf, more than enough to cut plastic), with more small blades, 8 on the circumference, and sharper than any made with laser cutting. Unfortunately "my" lathe at job have live tooling but it haven't the Y axis, so I have to cut the blades with a mill centered on the rotation axis of the piece. Not a big deal in my opinion, only time can decide if I'm right or wrong.

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

I don't need a 3d file. I'm on my way to build a new design shredder. My idea is to use less power (a lot less,300w), less speed (14rpm) to achieve a good torque from a small motor (200Nm after the 100:1 planetary gearbox I have , on a 45mm radius of the tip of the blade it means over 400kgf, more than enough to cut plastic), with more small blades, 8 on the circumference, and sharper than any made with laser cutting. Unfortunately "my" lathe at job have live tooling but it haven't the Y axis, so I have to cut the blades with a mill centered on the rotation axis of the piece. Not a big deal in my opinion, only time can decide if I'm right or wrong.

we are getting 4900 newtons shred force and @30 rpm and still have some issues. we have gone up to over 15,000 newtons using our 5hp motor and it still occasionally will jam

11:41 AM

5hp v3 shredder, uusng double b type pulley and type 50 chain to reduce the RPM, along with a selector switch to reverse the motor and clear jams.

11:43 AM

we have abandoned the 5hp v3 shredder and only offer the v3 with the small 2hp motos as a hobbyist use machine. the new shredder above runs at 600 rpm. it was designed by a Dutch volunteer who was here in the Philippines earlier this year.

Butte (PP Philippines)

we are getting 4900 newtons shred force and @30 rpm and still have some issues. we have gone up to over 15,000 newtons using our 5hp motor and it still occasionally will jam

But your blade are longer, and if they are laser cutted i guess it have at least 0.1mm or more play between them, and it aren't sharpened. If I'm right, probably the overload didn't come from cutting forces, but because the plastic is forced between the blades. With less torque (1.5kw motor, but slowed down with a VFD, then maybe a half of that power, and with a 1:5 belt reduction)I can cut stainless steel with my hobby mill, I want to put the same concept in my shredder design. I want to give less play to the blades (0.05/0.03mm), and shape them with a positive cutting angle. In this way I can cut, instead of shred, plastic. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it worth the try.

Technically speaking this is a granulator

We have 11KW (15HP) and it jams

@nahir you here?

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

But your blade are longer, and if they are laser cutted i guess it have at least 0.1mm or more play between them, and it aren't sharpened. If I'm right, probably the overload didn't come from cutting forces, but because the plastic is forced between the blades. With less torque (1.5kw motor, but slowed down with a VFD, then maybe a half of that power, and with a 1:5 belt reduction)I can cut stainless steel with my hobby mill, I want to put the same concept in my shredder design. I want to give less play to the blades (0.05/0.03mm), and shape them with a positive cutting angle. In this way I can cut, instead of shred, plastic. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it worth the try.

Actually i was wondering about the same thing - reducing the distance between fixed and rotary blades. I'm curious about how it will go, please, keep us updated.

magi SVK

Actually i was wondering about the same thing - reducing the distance between fixed and rotary blades. I'm curious about how it will go, please, keep us updated.

For sure. I have little time to make my parts, the lathe must be free at the end of the working day, and however in this period, because of the virus, I can't stay in the factory until 9pm because we can't work on shifts, so my colleagues that normally work until 9pm are working until 5pm(I'm on my own, I made spare parts and single pieces or small series on my lathe, so I haven't to work on shifts, I work normally from 8am to 4pm). So it takes a while to complete the work, but I can't really say how much. It is the price to pay having the possibility to use a CNC lathe for free, and having also materials for free...it seems that my shredder can cost me only the price of the two gears, the keys for the joints, o-ring and lip seal for the primary shaft, GUK nuts and an electrical box...

(edited)

the one army video was nice

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

For sure. I have little time to make my parts, the lathe must be free at the end of the working day, and however in this period, because of the virus, I can't stay in the factory until 9pm because we can't work on shifts, so my colleagues that normally work until 9pm are working until 5pm(I'm on my own, I made spare parts and single pieces or small series on my lathe, so I haven't to work on shifts, I work normally from 8am to 4pm). So it takes a while to complete the work, but I can't really say how much. It is the price to pay having the possibility to use a CNC lathe for free, and having also materials for free...it seems that my shredder can cost me only the price of the two gears, the keys for the joints, o-ring and lip seal for the primary shaft, GUK nuts and an electrical box...

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That possibility is priceless

i also have a lathe at work (old one, but works fine) and can take some spare material and make stuff for myself and nobody bats an eye, so i know what are you talking about

Hello. I have a question. Crushing hdpe bottle caps of various colors, bringing this crushed plastic flake to the factory and asking it to melt, it is unified into one color. I think it's because it's a factory injection, not a hand-type one. How can I make colorful products come out during injection? (edited)

Has anyone tried incorporating crushed glass(sand consistency) mixed with plastic to make garden tiles?

i just want to know how to join "one army"?

Depends what you mean by that

3:08 PM

If you want to join the discord, you're in it

magi SVK

That possibility is priceless

i also have a lathe at work (old one, but works fine) and can take some spare material and make stuff for myself and nobody bats an eye, so i know what are you talking about

I just managed to see the shredder v4 blueprints (my PC had some problems in the download), the spacers between the blades are 6.5mm in total, leaving 0.25mm between the blades... Maybe that's the main jamming cause... It is the thickness of three A4 sheets for each side of the blade. I can only imagine how much plastic can pass between the blades causing friction.

@Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna basic shredder has 0.5mm, I'm not sure, if more space means more space for plastic = less friction or even more friction due to more plastic between blades.

There are actually a number of things causing jamming or bad performance in the v4 shredder :

stationary, hex spacers not polished enough - mostly due to bad cutting quality due to hardox which needs quite a lot of work all over the place
axle misalignment, especially with strong tight up lock nuts in place
the clearance of the mount slots for the stationary blades are too tight (needs hammer) and is causing misalignment : grind it loose !
nominal errors (facemill)

As in v3, it should come out with near zero friction which is near impossible

. Careful assembly helps a lot. Put the stationary blades one by one and try to feel there is anything wrong or different. Can take 1-2 days

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Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

But your blade are longer, and if they are laser cutted i guess it have at least 0.1mm or more play between them, and it aren't sharpened. If I'm right, probably the overload didn't come from cutting forces, but because the plastic is forced between the blades. With less torque (1.5kw motor, but slowed down with a VFD, then maybe a half of that power, and with a 1:5 belt reduction)I can cut stainless steel with my hobby mill, I want to put the same concept in my shredder design. I want to give less play to the blades (0.05/0.03mm), and shape them with a positive cutting angle. In this way I can cut, instead of shred, plastic. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it worth the try.

I dont make the slow speed machines much now except for the hobbyists. My high speed shredder gives much higher performance, lower parts count, and lower manufacturing cost which is crucial in competing in the local market with the backyard guys selling overpriced low quality and giving kickbacks to the local government officials to sell.

11:08 PM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/99aamnctudqh136/shredder%20inside.mp4?dl=0 our shredder design.

shredder inside.mp4

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I´d love to see what happens throwing a shampoo or water bottle at it, finally

11:09 PM

Got more or less the same setup here now

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehb5pe8ldrjl1po/shred%20sachet.mp4?dl=0

shred sachet.mp4

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11:11 PM

shredded bags and sachet

11:14 PM

downsampling the video file of this batch shred.

11:15 PM

shredder high speed

11:16 PM

finished this one yesterday. Teco 5hp motor, hardox blades.

Butte (PP Philippines)

I dont make the slow speed machines much now except for the hobbyists. My high speed shredder gives much higher performance, lower parts count, and lower manufacturing cost which is crucial in competing in the local market with the backyard guys selling overpriced low quality and giving kickbacks to the local government officials to sell.

I have no doubt that your design is functional. But I started with another concept. I have to use little energy. I want to run my machines in my garage, and I have 3kw on 230V single phase. So I started wondering how to do it. First thought:ripping is more energy consuming than cutting. For example ,with a sharp pair of scissors you need less force rather than with rounded cutting edge ones. If the part you try to cut goes between the blades, you need a lot more energy because you have to rip instead of cutting. Second thought:cutting angle. I haven't experience with shredding, but I have a lot in machining plastic with lathe and mills. If you try to turn a bar of plastic, expecially the softer ones like the variulous kind of nylons, with an insert for cast iron, with negative angle, you rip it instead of cutting it, and a lot of power goes into heating the cutting surface. An insert for stainless steel can be better, but an grinded insert with positive geometry, like the ones for aluminium alloys, is a lot better. So I decided to make sharp and positive cutting blades, with less than 0.05mm distance between them. Something like impossible if you made them from metal sheets, just a little difficult if you made all the blades from a solid bar of 39NiCrMo3 steel. Simple if you can, as I want to do, made them with a CN lathe with a positioning precision of one micron (speaking of metric units, not imperial...0.001mm). It is simply a question of precise grooving in the steel bar and milling of the teeth with carbide end mills. Obviously it isn't practical for everyone, and made those parts for someone that can't use a similar machine for free can cost a lot of money. But for me it is the opposite, if I give the PP design to the laser cutting factory here it cost me a lot more.

Butte (PP Philippines)

I dont make the slow speed machines much now except for the hobbyists. My high speed shredder gives much higher performance, lower parts count, and lower manufacturing cost which is crucial in competing in the local market with the backyard guys selling overpriced low quality and giving kickbacks to the local government officials to sell.

And I know, it can maybe seem ridicolous a similar effort to make a shredder, expecially if you think I based my design on a cheap 300W-1400rpm induction motor coupled to a high precision planetary gearbox that cost alone over 1200€ (bonfiglioli MP080), but all of those part I had for free, as surplus parts from a friend like the gearbox, or as used ones from other people. I made some calculation, in my design the force on the tip of the blades can reach 400kg, and I think it is more than enough. For sure, it will be slow. But I haven't to shred for business, at leas for now. So...we'll see how it works.

Butte (PP Philippines)

finished this one yesterday. Teco 5hp motor, hardox blades.

That is like the gardening shredders, very good job, but it is another world, mine is a variant of the "original" one.

Hi, I’m helping company in Haiti in setting up precious plastics machines.. purchasing shredder pro and extrusion pro.. there will be challenges for electricity and cleanliness of plastics to make products.. questions.. assume- we are looking to purchase machines from plastic hub in Spain. 1. How long machines last if used 6-8 hours a day, 6 days a week.. assuming preventative maintenance performed.. 2. If we make bricks using v4.2 open brick mould, what would be cost of making a brick (estimate). ? Currently company is making pavers using plastics and sand with a very manual process .. one question, can we convert from using this process to all plastics, and all plastic paver could perform as good as a plastic and sand paver? Any feedback would be appreciated.. thanks in advance! Any other things we should consider would be great!

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

That is like the gardening shredders, very good job, but it is another world, mine is a variant of the "original" one.

actually no, mine is based on a industrial plastic shredder. Not a garden shredder. We been building this stuff for 3 years, i am just giving you my hard earned education based on first hand observation and a ton of experimenting plus working with people in the plastic industry.

Binary

If you want to join the discord, you're in it

okay.. i need some help regarding recycling plastic waste, whom to ask regarding it? (edited)

Butte (PP Philippines)

actually no, mine is based on a industrial plastic shredder. Not a garden shredder. We been building this stuff for 3 years, i am just giving you my hard earned education based on first hand observation and a ton of experimenting plus working with people in the plastic industry.

The design is a lot similar to drum chippers, this is what I want to say. And I follow the other design. Thanks a lot for the suggestions, but anyone have the right of doing his own experiments, don't you think? And I'm more fascinated by experimenting rather than starting a plastic recycling startup. I have been working in the metalworking industry since the last century because I like it, not because I don't have other possibilities. So I think I know what I want, maybe I'm wrong and my idea is not functional, I don't want to say I'm right, only that I want to try.

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Butte (PP Philippines)

we have abandoned the 5hp v3 shredder and only offer the v3 with the small 2hp motos as a hobbyist use machine. the new shredder above runs at 600 rpm. it was designed by a Dutch volunteer who was here in the Philippines earlier this year.

I was looking for the plastic shredder crusher machine online.. and can’t find on precious plastic the one built in phillipine. What is the link?

AdrienP

I was looking for the plastic shredder crusher machine online.. and can’t find on precious plastic the one built in phillipine. What is the link?

you can call me 09218230439 in you are here in the Philippines (edited)

1:05 AM

i am not exporting mine though. too much headache with customs

Does anyone have any tips for welding plastic?

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what all polymers can be injected in granules form in injection molding for mass production of recycled products like paver blocks or cross blocks because there are blow mold hdpe as well even in pet there are blow mold

5:21 AM

kind of confused can we blend PET HDPE LDPE & PP together to make a product?

Hey there. Is there someway I can get involved in contributing to the code? I am a computer science student. Also have aCNC shop with lathes and mills in the Chicago area.

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5:51 AM

Kimachine.com

Is anyone making floor tiles from recycled plastic and which recycled polymers are using?

8:37 AM

i' am from India want to make products from recycled plastic waste but not getting the right direction for R&D.

We are on an island where lathes are not available...can we buy one already made at a reasonable price? What about chinese models as an option?

Need to know how to melt biscuit wrapper of opp materials.

Hi all! Greetings from Ukraine! Let’s chat for making world better✊ Maybe there’s somebody from Ukraine?

@gavayec🌴 hi there, neighbour

Try in #🥗europe and also look for Precious Plastic Ukraine. Guýs are stationed in Lvov and they have made some amazing things.

magi SVK

@gavayec🌴 hi there, neighbour

Try in #🥗europe and also look for Precious Plastic Ukraine. Guýs are stationed in Lvov and they have made some amazing things.

Did you know about Odessa Precious Plastic team?

magi SVK

@gavayec🌴 hi there, neighbour

Try in #🥗europe and also look for Precious Plastic Ukraine. Guýs are stationed in Lvov and they have made some amazing things.

✌️Hello (edited)

I am completely new but I want to start a large scale plastic recycling company in Tijuana Mexico because they do not have any kind of infrastructure and there is around 2.1 million residents. So I need all the help I can get please.

9:13 PM

If someone will please point me in the right direction.

Preface I am being VERY armchair here (also I could do my survivable / (media malo...lol) Spanish or grab a translator if need be? I don't know what your native language is/what would work best, so do tell me!) ANYWAYS

9:17 PM

@Dalialama I would start small, then work up from there?

9:17 PM

Get all the machines, and a small-medium location, then build up from there as the business grows?

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I speak English and some Spanish. I am currently a resident of California. I have investors with a lot of money

that need to invest their money in something positive for the world!

9:22 PM

I get really frustrated when I start working on the business plan I think because I am trying to start to big. They throw so much plastic away that y’all will not even begin to imagine.

9:26 PM

I want to have containers out in front of every house with trucks picking up 5 days a week. I know I want to produce roof tiles because construction is a big business and floor tiles. They use so much concrete so it would be a miracle to get them hooked on a new product

9:28 PM

Should I still start small even if I have funding of at least $100k?

"that need to invest their money in something" what a BAD SITUATION you are in lol

9:45 PM

that's fucking amazing

9:45 PM

1 0 0 k

9:45 PM

oh the things you can do !

9:46 PM

On the note of "Thinking too big" i have been trying to plot out that exact issue-ish

9:46 PM

gets me ESPECIALLY on the sourcing side

9:46 PM

like "where would i get tape, or glue in a decentralized economy"

9:47 PM

or like WD-40 etc

9:47 PM

BUT i may have some helpful workflows/pages on that on the OSE wiki ?

9:47 PM

@Dalialama

@Dalialama that's very impressive, and I share your enthusiasm. BUT. What you're talking about is more concern of your local government than of bunch of people on Discord. You don't need a PP workspace but a factory. Semi/industrial machines capable of processing that amount of plastic. I'm not sure, if even a lot of pro versions would be efficient. Also, it's nice that you want to make roof tiles, but plastics degrades on UV light etc. To have an idea is amazing, but what you described is so complex, that even if everyone here on discord gives you ten different insights, it still won't cover all of it.

I definetly agree lol !

9:57 PM

Full on commercial MSW processing is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay above PP's current level

9:58 PM

Could potentially focus more on a "makerspace" than a "cottage industry"

9:58 PM

so use that funding for a building + equipment + a few years funding to "get things going"

9:59 PM

Again though even that would need plans, and then permits, and then all sorts of long agreements

9:59 PM

not that we can't plot here (on OSE's discord i have subchannels for this exact type of thing, and could do video-conferences etc once various projects "grow" ) (edited)

10:01 PM

I think i knew someone in Guádalajhara (goodness my spelling butchers that i bet, checking that now) who wants to open a makerspace, and is doing some work with OSE on this? , so i can see how close you are @Dalialama ?

10:02 PM

(also could move this to DMs / there to avoid clutter or the #🍔north-america / #🍌latin-america (mexico is an odd mix of both-ish) ) ?

Mexico is easy to get the permits and agreements started. So Like I said I’m new. So where do we want to move this conversation to?

10:12 PM

I need all the advice I can get.

´is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay above PP's current level´, you really don´t know the folks working on and in PP

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10:24 PM

Anyway, 100k is pretty much nothing and if - you need certain skills to spend it wisely, something you have to earn over long.

100k, how many PP workspaces could you get with that?

11:25 PM

I agree on not going with roof tiles, stay with indoor floor tiles though

TruthTeller

Anyway, 100k is pretty much nothing and if - you need certain skills to spend it wisely, something you have to earn over long.

Exactly. 100'000$ (but it is the same if you multiply that 5x or maybe 10x) is nothing to start a medium size company. A friend of mine is employed in a medium size packagjng company and only their last investiment (a two barrel extruder to make parts in two layer, for example an inner layer with normal caracteristic and the outer one made with UV resistant plastic) costs over 250k€, from how he said to me. Maybe (certainly) outside Italy , where I live, it can cost less, but 100k$ can be maybe a good fund to start a small artesanal factory. Maybe...

Butte (PP Philippines)

you can call me 09218230439 in you are here in the Philippines (edited)

Hi, I’ll message you and see a good time to call..

pphalder

Need to know how to melt biscuit wrapper of opp materials.

we have been melting the sachets and bags after shredding. Yes it works. BUT. the output is extremely bubbly. also the light material does not feed well in the extrusion machine. We did get a successful mold using the compression molder. We compress using a water cooled mold and 6 tons. We also collect our material with a vacuum dust collector and filter bag. This stuff is very light and will blow int he wind which makes it not only a micro plastic issue, but a breathing hazard. We use N95 masks when handling it. Ideally we would like a bigger extrusion machine to process it without shredding or a pre extrusion machine that will force the material into the smaller extrusion screw.

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i didn't mean "above our current level" in a mean way if i came across that way i'm sorry aaaaaaaaa I just mean i feel most of us (feel free to correct me, i mean i don't have data so honestly would love to know?)? don't have that much to burn? May just me being naive idk @TruthTeller (edited)

1:31 AM

Like for me at least that could buy you a lot of extruders etc

1:31 AM

or ~100 Prusa mk4s

1:32 AM

so an entire print farm, whereas most can only afford 1 as an individual, or a few as a business

One of the 2 angel investors that are worth over 2 billion US$ together which one lives in Tijuana. All I have to do is present the business plan with everything in order and I am sure I can get more than a 100k. Can someone tell me who would be the most beneficial person to contact. I have already done a lot of research and have some of the business plan together.

@Dalialama what parts of the business plan do you still need to finish? every funding source I know requires a complete one

@Dalialama getting late into this conversation. Roof tiles have been made with mixed plastic and sand, even in developing countries as far as I know. As for a gracious flyer to go hand in hand with a business plan, I have received such a document from a nice PP member in Australia. It was used for a sucxessful grant application. The core document template exists and is editable to your precious plastic or imaginary precious plastic tile making workspace. We posted a link on the Canadian Discord Server. We also have some capabilities to develop such a thing. Anyway nothing lost by just taking a look...Plastic and Sand, great Idea! Here is the link we just started a fundraising and grant channel. I will post an invite link: (edited)

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3:30 AM

https://discord.gg/58JKTwDrXF

Hello people

Some of you might have heard about it, but I wanted to share THE FLIPFLOPI PROJECT which I'm involved in with the other half of my heart (the other half? >> PreciousPlastic

). We made a sailing boat from recycled plastic, make expeditions to spread awareness and solutions, and help to start local waste management and (Precious Plastic) recycling workspaces :) Just launched our Patreon page, as looking for funding is an ongoing topic (as with nearly all these kind of projects). Would be happy to see some of you over there and become part of the East African plastic revolution ✊ https://www.patreon.com/theflipflopi

The Flipflopi is creating solutions to push a #plasticrevolution in...

Become a patron of The Flipflopi today: Get access to exclusive content and experiences on the world’s largest membership platform for artists and creators.

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What an amazing project, well done @Kat and team!

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Hi everyone

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5:27 PM

its great to be here and learning new things

@Kat THAT'S AMAZING

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5:44 PM

did you document the whole build process somewhere (binge watching the channel now) ? (edited)

5:44 PM

Also have you tried making sailcloth from melted together plastic film?

5:45 PM

a sort of "plastic canvass" ?

Eric Lotze

did you document the whole build process somewhere (binge watching the channel now) ? (edited)

How-to coming in January!

We're still researching on recycled sails / recycled plastic textiles for the sail - haven't tried the fused plastic film/bags yet. Definitely interested to try, but also a bit skeptical about the strenght, the winds can be strong!

Definetly! I just love sailing so mixing that WITH this is amazing to me lol

5:57 PM

Would definitely be a useful product too, accessible fast transit/cargo shipping via water and "free" fuel (also just recreation!)

5:59 PM

Is there a printed/illustrated version of this? :

5:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97dCMm0M4A

The Flipflopi

The Wonderful Story of Flipflopi - the world's first recycled plast...

5:59 PM

would be great to donate to libraries

5:59 PM

or have a "book reading" for local kids with it

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6:02 PM

Also

6:03 PM

interesting thing about plastic (or even the more common "fiberglass" which is really just a thermoset+glass fiber) is that it doesn't rot like wood, OR rust like metal (edited)

6:04 PM

And repairs can be made by filling in gaps/cracks with more material !

6:04 PM

So they can have a near infinite lifespan as long as some group can "fix it up"

Does anyone know of plans for a mold to make side release buckles like this?

Hello everyone ! I am new on the chat, my name is Eva and I am from Chamonix Mont-Blanc in France (hope this is the right area to introduce myself). I've discovered Precious Plastic a few months ago and with my boyfriend we are now ready to launch a project of recycling point in our town, hopefully associated with a "Fab lab" mainly specialized in environmental and durable solutions (a kind of urban project kamp for people with a small appartment and big ideas). All your tips are welcome ! We have planned to make a trip to Norway in april and visiting a maximum of Precious Plastic and fab labs points on our way to learn a maximum and build up a solid business plan (and why not continue our way back to Portugal to visit the team on the One Army Project Kamp to help them out on the site ?) Anyway, the main purpose of this message is to ask if anybody knows how can I contact the webmaster of the one army's website ? I would like to offer my services as a translater of all the content in French.. for FREE (of course ! :)). This way, we (or anybody in France/Belgium/Switzerland/Luxemburg) could more easily communicate on our project by showing the existant links and videos with proper traduction and subtitles so french-speaking people, friends, authorities, donators can fully understand the project. Thank you all and keep it up, we'll make it ! (edited)

@Deleted User Hello welcome. You may be super valuable to my project. I love the @LE RECYCLEUR FOU machines. I don't speak any French. So I would hate for there to be a miss communication as I move forward with the set up of my project.

Deleted User

Hello everyone ! I am new on the chat, my name is Eva and I am from Chamonix Mont-Blanc in France (hope this is the right area to introduce myself). I've discovered Precious Plastic a few months ago and with my boyfriend we are now ready to launch a project of recycling point in our town, hopefully associated with a "Fab lab" mainly specialized in environmental and durable solutions (a kind of urban project kamp for people with a small appartment and big ideas). All your tips are welcome ! We have planned to make a trip to Norway in april and visiting a maximum of Precious Plastic and fab labs points on our way to learn a maximum and build up a solid business plan (and why not continue our way back to Portugal to visit the team on the One Army Project Kamp to help them out on the site ?) Anyway, the main purpose of this message is to ask if anybody knows how can I contact the webmaster of the one army's website ? I would like to offer my services as a translater of all the content in French.. for FREE (of course ! :)). This way, we (or anybody in France/Belgium/Switzerland/Luxemburg) could more easily communicate on our project by showing the existant links and videos with proper traduction and subtitles so french-speaking people, friends, authorities, donators can fully understand the project. Thank you all and keep it up, we'll make it ! (edited)

Hello there @Deleted User ! awesome project you are starting there ! have you checked the French-speaking discord server ? Quite a lot of translation work has already been done :) https://discord.gg/TfXKRe6 (edited)

Invite to join a server

Side Release Buckle 3/4 inch by SingerAudio

général

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Nick - PP France

Hello there @Deleted User ! awesome project you are starting there ! have you checked the French-speaking discord server ? Quite a lot of translation work has already been done :) https://discord.gg/TfXKRe6 (edited)

Thank you ! I have sent a message to ask if they needed any help. I am especially looking for translating the content of the whole website itself in order to communicate more easily with potential investors, instead of making my own translation on my own

But I'm sure I'll find my answers there, thanks for the tip

rahryder

Does anyone know of plans for a mold to make side release buckles like this?

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1074129 This may be a good place to start.

maybe you could use a 3d print to make a hold (edited)

This is a side-release buckle or parachute buckle that works with 3/4 inch straps or 'webbing'. I modeled this so I could print a replacement for a broken clip on my pack. Originally printed in PLA, which has been surprisingly functional so far, but I've reprinted in PET+ which has a much better flexible quality to it and should last far longer....

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Franny (precious.trash.detroit)

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1074129 This may be a good place to start.

maybe you could use a 3d print to make a hold (edited)

Thank you so much!

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@Deleted User isn't there a way to automatically translate with a webhook or custom bot via google translate?

3:45 AM

@franny ABS material should also work well and more durable tha n PET or PLA although it might warp if the bed temp is low or not there. Really really strong. Great starting pount for a mold. It will be a little complec as it must have a removable inner core.

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

@Deleted User isn't there a way to automatically translate with a webhook or custom bot via google translate?

I haven't seen it on the website, maybe by downloading a program ? Anyways, it might be more accurate if it's done by a human don't you think ?

Maybe look at bots

Hi I am looking for a Pieter who made a youtube video about building a extrusion machine, I have some questions about this.

@Deleted User for any technical translation definitely a human would be better. It can turn into something with a completely different meaning. For general conversation and comments it should work fine. Even if it is a human to do the work having it translated and just proofreading vs. having to translate from scratch is likely helpful. (edited)

I just bought an extruder and it didn't come with assembly instructions anyone know where to find them?

@Jdz1 Hi, I just emailed you our link.

thank you

anytime!

hi. I am from Singapore and my team and I want to start a recycling precious plastic space here

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7:49 AM

we are looking to buy the machines instead of building it but none of us are knowledgeable in understanding the schematics and electronics

7:49 AM

whats a good way around it to make sure we are buying something worth while

Hi everyone! I'm Gabri, from Italy! I've discovered this beautiful community while looking for ways to recycle plastic on my own. I'm so exited to join and I cannot wait to start sharing and collecting ideas

see you guys around!

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Awesome, Wikifactory got 4.5M funding : https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/09/wikifactory-has-raised-4-5m-for-its-github-for-hardware-to-make-almost-anything-remotely.

Mike Butcher

Wikifactory has raised $4.5M for its ‘GitHub for hardware’ to make ...

Karl Marx famously argued in “Das Kapital” that to achieve freedom from the slavery of capitalism, the worker must own the means of production. Perhaps that day is edging closer. Today Wikifactory, billing itself as a “GitHub for hardware”, announced it has closed a $3 milli…

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There are btw. new funding options within H2020 contexts, https://iaac.net/webinar-smart-and-climate-neutral-cities-dec-2020/

IAAC Webinar - Ciudades inteligentes y climáticamente neutras en el...

El objetivo del webinar es el de promover la participación de las empresas españolas en el Programa Horizon Europe 2021-2027.

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7:18 PM

That's EU wide, not sure where the links per country are. However, applying for H2020 is also possible for the smaller SMEs or projects.

GabriMcNab

Hi everyone! I'm Gabri, from Italy! I've discovered this beautiful community while looking for ways to recycle plastic on my own. I'm so exited to join and I cannot wait to start sharing and collecting ideas

see you guys around!

Hello, I'm Davide, I live inCesena. Where are you from? (edited)

Tim F

Does anyone have any tips for welding plastic?

I would love to know about 'welding' plastic as well, if anyone has experience with this

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

Hello, I'm Davide, I live inCesena. Where are you from? (edited)

Hi Davide! I'm from Sesto San Giovanni, just outside Milano

Ok, we aren't so close! Come into europe thread!

Ciao here udine

@JuleAsterisk try searching here on discord, there are several posts about welding plastic in a few ways. Most from @Eric Lotze though. (edited)

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JuleAsterisk

I would love to know about 'welding' plastic as well, if anyone has experience with this

So far I have been experimenting with a Heat gun and a wood burning iron to join 2 ends of a sheet together to make a larger sheet. The Heat gun method works well but you need to cut a V and then use leftover plastic to fill in the V. With the wood burning iron I can melt a channel and then go back over the channel to fill it in with left over plastic. Another method I have seen but not tried is friction welding.

Hello I’m new I am jennifer but I have been following precious plastic for a bit and I definitely am interested in the other projects as well

Hi all. I have a big ask

. I have to create a video for work about the concept of what I want to achieve. Would anyone be willing to share any short video footage with me, of any of your machines or processes in operation. You footage would be edited into my video. I would credit any content in the video.

cookingmad

Hi all. I have a big ask

. I have to create a video for work about the concept of what I want to achieve. Would anyone be willing to share any short video footage with me, of any of your machines or processes in operation. You footage would be edited into my video. I would credit any content in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg2gkpYKxpDGJahlopJQUiw

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg2gkpYKxpDGJahlopJQUiw

Stuff from the mad scientist workshop

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Butte (PP Philippines)

Thank you so much.

Kat

Hello people

Some of you might have heard about it, but I wanted to share THE FLIPFLOPI PROJECT which I'm involved in with the other half of my heart (the other half? >> PreciousPlastic

). We made a sailing boat from recycled plastic, make expeditions to spread awareness and solutions, and help to start local waste management and (Precious Plastic) recycling workspaces :) Just launched our Patreon page, as looking for funding is an ongoing topic (as with nearly all these kind of projects). Would be happy to see some of you over there and become part of the East African plastic revolution ✊ https://www.patreon.com/theflipflopi

How can we be a part of this project?

srikanthpotipi

How can we be a part of this project?

You can take part in a couple of ways:

share it (on social media, talk about it etc.)
donate/become a patreon to support the local waste management projects
help research on topics like:

How to make the big recycled plastic parts of the bigger boat?

How to make a strong recycled plastic sail?

How to make a recycled mast? (if that even makes sense)

if you come to Kenya, drop by and say hello :)

... Or more - you can check out what we're doing and see if there is something you'd be interested to help with!

Why we dont use transalot bot in this server

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Hey I'm trying to build the pro shredder. I just came back from the laser cutter shop to get a quote. Does anyone have the quantities for each part?

Hello! I have a very quick question about making a donation to Precious Plastics! Is it possible to get some sort of tax write off if donating from the US/EU?

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Ciao la mia opinione personale é che molte volte non si parla di desing perxhé creare qualcosa con la plastica riciclata sia una scelta libera e anche intimista. Nel mio caso in particolare peró vorrei raccontarvi la mia idea progetto di desing per PP questa idea di desing posso solo scriverla perché nella realtà in cui vivo non ci sono gruppi PP attivi o funzionanti. La mia idea di desing ha una banalità sconcertante

si tratta di una scatola.

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Le sneaker al giorno d'oggi si comprano online si scambiano hanno due costi in retail e in resell. Il valore della scarpa é dato anche dal valore della scatola. Questo é il pacco ricevuto dal corriere

2:25 AM

Ho pensato.... Perché non usare le proprietà della plastica per proteggere un altra scatola

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2:28 AM

Inquesta foto un ipotetica realizzazione conclusiva

2:29 AM

Ho scelto questa immagine perché molto desing PP ha questo effetto marmorizzato

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Molte bottiglie di vino anche vengono vendute in scatole di legno ... Ogni giorno riceviamo scatole o riutilizziamo scatole Pensiamo a chi ha un attività di e-commerce

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@di5cordangerlo consider ppsting your messages in english or in your countries channel. This is generally an english language channel.

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di5cordangerlo

Why we dont use transalot bot in this server

Likely because the bot may not do a good job when tra slation technical terms. (edited)

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) no... Translate is not my problem and is not my priority

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2:50 AM

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) if you wan translate my mess well done If you dont read my post who cares

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@di5cordangerlo It clutters the information that is understable to the majority. Just post in a better channel with your language a d a leader here if yoh must, comprende? Who cares? Most of the members, likely but who cares!!! (edited)

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@Mirco (CANADA, ON) ppl use discord use bots Facts

Coupler failed in 40 minutes of test running Shredder Pro.

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1:57 PM

@Jaykob that looks like something was not right. What do you mean"test run"? Without plastic? Did you align the axles? It looks like one part is lower than the other.

@Jaykob i mean even from the photo it looks like that there is quite missalignment which no way this type of coupling could handle.

magi SVK

@Jaykob that looks like something was not right. What do you mean"test run"? Without plastic? Did you align the axles? It looks like one part is lower than the other.

Was testing it by shredding PET bottles. It run for 30mins normally, then the blades got stack and the coupler broke. I also think the misalignment contributed a lot to the failure.

Hi there! Hoping to write in the right place... I'm looking for something to do with my super tiny sheets. I can melt and press about 0.5 to 1kg per cycle. I own a 3018 cnc machine so I can work on the piece to make small stuff. I'm looking for someone that could need that stuff. (edited)

Hi everyone, we're trying to use precious plastics to start a project at our university to collect plastic waste and recycle it with the end-goal of being waste-free sometime in the future. We are still trying to figure out the logistics and were wondering if anyone had a similar project that they had already implemented, or were in the process of implementing, so we could maybe get some ideas of how to make this work!

jinpearl

Hello! I have a very quick question about making a donation to Precious Plastics! Is it possible to get some sort of tax write off if donating from the US/EU?

Thank You!!!! This is a great question you have about whether you can get a charitable tax receipt for donating to Precious Plastics entities. I work with a charity, and we are trying to contact PP for exactly this reason (and other projects and fundraising possibilities). It's easy to write a charitable tax receipt, but we need the approval off PP international to start doing so. To start with, this tax receipt proposal would be for Canada and US only; we still have to figure out if we can go international with charitable tax receipts. https://www.canadahelps.org/en/charities/the-society-of-high-prairie-regional-environmental-action-committee/

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JuleAsterisk

Thank You!!!! This is a great question you have about whether you can get a charitable tax receipt for donating to Precious Plastics entities. I work with a charity, and we are trying to contact PP for exactly this reason (and other projects and fundraising possibilities). It's easy to write a charitable tax receipt, but we need the approval off PP international to start doing so. To start with, this tax receipt proposal would be for Canada and US only; we still have to figure out if we can go international with charitable tax receipts. https://www.canadahelps.org/en/charities/the-society-of-high-prairie-regional-environmental-action-committee/

Same! I sent them an email, hoping to hear back soon. Please let me know if you hear from them! (edited)

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Does anyone know if the precious plastic flags will be available on the Bazar?

JuleAsterisk

Thank You!!!! This is a great question you have about whether you can get a charitable tax receipt for donating to Precious Plastics entities. I work with a charity, and we are trying to contact PP for exactly this reason (and other projects and fundraising possibilities). It's easy to write a charitable tax receipt, but we need the approval off PP international to start doing so. To start with, this tax receipt proposal would be for Canada and US only; we still have to figure out if we can go international with charitable tax receipts. https://www.canadahelps.org/en/charities/the-society-of-high-prairie-regional-environmental-action-committee/

Yes please let me know if you find out. It would be a great incentive to boast about at my collection site!

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I’m guessing no one has started gathering data on which machine parts are most likely to fail and optimal material treatments for them, but I would like to begin gathering this information

6:50 AM

with optimization we can start picking better materials and giving some kind of life expectancy to people who purchase machines

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6:50 AM

which is probably critical for scaffolding next phase of business development waves

6:50 AM

can’t cost out a machine if you don’t know how long it will last

@pyro - not directly but there is a commission working on a sort of gold standard, eg: policies for CAD, documentation, fasteners, component selection, etc.. pretty much anything to assist product lifecycles but also OpenSource submissions. For now we just identified bottlenecks, priorities and workflows- all in respect to IS9001. The list of templates and manifests is quite long, dm me for an invitation on Slack.

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@Jaykob Could you tell us more as well on the spec of the coupling you used ? It looks different ?

4:30 PM

@pyro Normally on the shredder all parts have been calculated for the load the recommended motor can provide. Then the motor is protected but a contactor, shutting it when the amperage is too high (directly related to power, then torque). But that's true that unexpected load can occur. If you are capable of finding the "breaking part", it would be nice

then we can find a way to make it as the weakest is also the cheapest / easiest to change part.

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@Yann As reported 3 (or 4) times by now, plastic is getting stuck badly between the sieve and the bottom of stationary blades and jams the whole shredder till complete cleanup. It's the coupling and performance paying the price as consequence.

Yes, I heard, didn't manage to follow all Discord message. We tried two other designs of fixed blade during V4, that were actually worse.

4:34 PM

Is it more ofthen with HDPE or all plastics ?

Pretty much all, might be nice to place a warning about using the sieve till we have a re-design. In our and @Jaykob's (Ugunda) case, the damages were quite high. We have this now since 3 months on the bench for testing and I don't see other choice than going for a re-design as @ShrednMelt_Xu already worked nicely. Also @Mirco (CANADA, ON) came up with something but I don't know the details.

Yes, we also are working on it. But strangly I shredd quiet a lot this year without breaking anything from the shredder (V4 prototype). Regular motor jamming is occuring for sure, but no mecanical break.

4:39 PM

One easy "fix" is to put the plastic by small quantity in the hopper during sieve shredding.

4:40 PM

It takes more or less the same shredding time, but an operator is full time needed, so far from optimal.

Yeah, we went for 4Kw, as Jacob - I am afraid we can't sell it with such limitations, at this price the customers expect to throw whatever in it

Re-shredding as said is not a good option due to flake size variances. In some cases customers need exactly that. Anyway, happy it's being taken into consideration. Thanks

I would like to find a way to model the plastic shredding but the only way we found to work on such matter as blade shape (mobile and fixed) is empirical from now. If you have any design you made or heard of, I would be more than happy to look at them (and test them).

4:46 PM

Also I agree than 4kW without limitation is more than what we calculated the shredder for. I don't have in front of me the max torque possible / calculated, but I can look for it later.

4:47 PM

A more powerfull motor is still a good option to shred non stop the whole day, but with a limiter.

4:47 PM

(then you have a better service factor)

Ok, we send you a little dossier next week, we're still puzzled. Here's the more promising but I am not sure this will really address the sieve problem. https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/717006710123921459

Can be tested, I will see for next laser cut order (probably next year though !)

4:50 PM

Thank you for the input

Yeah, I think we test it here soon as well. Thanks (edited)

wait precious plastic awards are on ig and not twitter

6:43 PM

whooops can I still enter

@Jaykob about the coupler - to what load it was rated?

Hi there! Just a quick question. Has anybody tried GFRP (Glass Fibre Reinforced Plastic, or known as glass fibre plastic)? Just wondering if it'd work for my sheet press

(edited)

Hello there! This is Mason Feng from China. Nice to meet all of you guys here!

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I know adding in "Chopped Fiber" should be easy for nearly all the machines (will cause (more/faster) abrasion of components though) "Continous Fiber" or "Fiber Matting" could be done with the sheet press i would think? I would assume ~0.25-0.75 layer of plastic above the metal "base" or "roof", and something like that between "layers" if using more than one mat? Also may want to make sure some flakes/dust get into the matrics of the matting/fiber

9:04 PM

@subacid Granted this is my armchair thought As always experimentation + documentation is the real way to know

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I should be back on in ~6-12 hrs

I did some try out with fiber. Recycling a already mixed plastic (like industry leftover) doesn't required anything particular, process it like any PP, PA... you found. You can also mix it easily with a similar plastic without fiber (PPfiber + PP), but then you have to calculate your new fiber content. But it is quite difficult to just mix some fiber you could buy with some plastic flakes you shredded. Generally fiber for plastic are treated with a additive to allow a bond between fiber and plastic. Without this bond, fiber will just act as porosity in your plastic. Premixing with a extruder help creating this bond but not optimal. Litterature suggest double axis extruder works better, but I haven't test.

I think most "Off the shelf" Carbon Fiber has a thin coating of some sort of plastic around it

8:02 PM

For things like Basalt or Glass fiber, i am unsure

8:02 PM

Also it would vary by supplier etc, so always make sure it does

8:03 PM

Also would something beyond a simple plastic coating be needed? Like some sort of adhesive?

**On another note, i just expanded Open Source Low Tech's Discord Channel a Bit to Include More Channels/Topics : https://discord.gg/hWEbfqABH6 (edited)

Invite to join a server

Open Source Low Tech

info❗

Would anyone be interested in a "Metal Recycling" and/or "Scrap Metal" Page on This One Army Discord ?

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definitely, I collect scrap metal like some kind of medieval goblin

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Also not just collecting it, but development of furnaces/ingots/anvils etc

Tired early today, so logging off, should be back at the usual "uptime" tomorrow

"Metal Recycling" and/or "Scrap Metal" Page Maybe a bit too broad. Maybe DIY mould making instead. (?)

@Frederik C (ZA) @Eric Lotze machine parts also require metal works... Maybe some laser cuts may be replaced with very low tech iron or aluminum casting? Eg I'm stuck with projects because of my lack in metal workings and metal workers in my area cost too much for a diy recycling purpose...

I don't know enough to say what is feasible. Basic aluminium casting for moulds is certainly doable. Other metals, I don't know... You also have to consider what the cost / benefit thinking of the average user will be. "Penny wise, Pound foolish" as the saying goes. But one could look at what collective maker spaces might be able to offer, rather than something you expect the average workspace to have. I'm also starting to wonder about crowd-funded waterjet cutters now. Something I haven't seen much talk about.

Custom metal work will almost always be prohibitively expensive, because it's such a niche market. Also, why do most people use professional laser-cutting services? Simple convenience, probably. Because doing it yourself might be possible, but is kind of like cutting a lawn with tweezers. The frustration outweighs the cost.

Hi guys, I hope you're all well. I'm new to the platform, having been directed here by the Precious plastic staff when searching for some answers to questions I have around machinery. I work very closely with several NGOs and charities in East Africa and with one in particular I am looking into building construction materials using plastic waste. I know this is possible because I've seen a number of organisations doing it now, but I'm not 100% sure what machinery I need for the entire process..? A shredder, extruder? Any help would be greatly appreciated

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@pleaseplastic posted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXKZ6ZKQcu8&ab_channel=AlexanderYevstaffyev

Alexander Yevstaffyev

PET bottles Recycling cheap and easy technology, fiber from pet bot...

@Plastic Paradigm @JuleAsterisk and whoever may be interested, I heard back from Precious Plastics: "I don't believe you would be able to receive a deduction for your donation. We are a Stichting (foundation) in the Netherlands, but we don't have the equivalent 501c3 status in Netherlands, and even if we did, I believe that would only count for Dutch citizens."

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@MattNorman1991 Your plan sounds interesting. Several people have talked about such plans, here. There are usually more questions than answers, in terms of practicality / safety / regulations, etc. Ironically, with your field experience, you might know more about it than any of us.

Continue the chat in #archived-plastic and #🌽africa, and we'll see if we can claw our way to some useful answers.

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Eric Lotze

I know adding in "Chopped Fiber" should be easy for nearly all the machines (will cause (more/faster) abrasion of components though) "Continous Fiber" or "Fiber Matting" could be done with the sheet press i would think? I would assume ~0.25-0.75 layer of plastic above the metal "base" or "roof", and something like that between "layers" if using more than one mat? Also may want to make sure some flakes/dust get into the matrics of the matting/fiber

Hi, Eric and @Yann ! Thanks for your comments. Really appreciated. Well, one of my clients wanted to connect us to a clothes hanger (made of FRP) manufacturer, actually, and I wasn't quite sure if I could shred, and process the leftover hangers using sheet press. Soz I should have been more specific. I should perhaps give it a go then. It smelt quite bad though, which led me to here.

9:23 AM

subacid

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This is what I got from the supplier fyi. We'd, of course, take of that hook and were planning to shred the body only.

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All the best from Berlin!

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jinpearl

@Plastic Paradigm @JuleAsterisk and whoever may be interested, I heard back from Precious Plastics: "I don't believe you would be able to receive a deduction for your donation. We are a Stichting (foundation) in the Netherlands, but we don't have the equivalent 501c3 status in Netherlands, and even if we did, I believe that would only count for Dutch citizens."

Thanks for letting us know

hey guys , I'm new here

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hi all! I'm interested in contributing to the community platform on github. I read the code of conduct and am looking at the first issues page. Does anyone have info on whether working on some of the first issues is a good place to start? Or is there some other area that is in need of some extra manpower?

8:15 PM

any advice would be much appreciated

@isolomon The online development chat was moved out of the main Discord. I think it was getting spammed with non-relevant stuff. Hopefully someone from the (very small) development team will get back to you.

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OSE has an open source torch table

9:23 PM

less resolution but with some "elbow grease" tuning, the gears should be fine

9:23 PM

somewhat diy-able depending\ on funds / materials you have

9:24 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/CNC_Torch_Table_v19.10

CNC Torch Table v19.10

@schivolarana

i was playing "Play-Dough" with a younder sibling, and was thinking how it is essentially "play-extrusion/compression molding" and now i want play dough size + playdough using industrial machines

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10:17 PM

could make the s m a l l e s t legos, or sheets

isolomon

hi all! I'm interested in contributing to the community platform on github. I read the code of conduct and am looking at the first issues page. Does anyone have info on whether working on some of the first issues is a good place to start? Or is there some other area that is in need of some extra manpower?

First issues is a good start! Leave a comment on the issue if interested or have questions and we take it from there

hi, is "forum" in preciousplastic website closed? then is there any place that I can ask questions on my work progress? is this chatting only place that i can share my questions and get feedbacks?

@상희 yes, forum is closed for new posts, you still can search in it somewhere. And also, yes, you can ask and share questions here.

thank you for the kindness!

8:41 AM

i have below questions that i am struggling to find! please advise if anyone can help me out! 1. What is the melting point for HDPE/LDPE/PP and how long should I leave? 2.Is there any nice solution to avoid bubbles in sheets? 3.Is there any way to avoid bad shrinkage/ bending or twisting when making sheets? 4.To avoid shrinkage/ bending, which is better between fast cooling or low speed cooling?

Good morning everyone I have a question about injection molding machine

Eric Lotze

Would anyone be interested in a "Metal Recycling" and/or "Scrap Metal" Page on This One Army Discord ?

Yes! We should have a #MetalDealer

CrisLeash 🐙

Yes! We should have a #MetalDealer

I'm mostly interested in how to melt aluminum and make molds for it, a lot of waste has aluminum. It could become one more recycling badge. Anyone thinking the same or different?

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ajiroba

Good morning everyone I have a question about injection molding machine

try and ask at #archived-machines

상희

i have below questions that i am struggling to find! please advise if anyone can help me out! 1. What is the melting point for HDPE/LDPE/PP and how long should I leave? 2.Is there any nice solution to avoid bubbles in sheets? 3.Is there any way to avoid bad shrinkage/ bending or twisting when making sheets? 4.To avoid shrinkage/ bending, which is better between fast cooling or low speed cooling?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics at the end of this

Resource Recycling, Inc. – Recycling Industry Publications & Confer...

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Hi, new here. I am working on designing a "plastic recycling workshop for primary schools (age 6 to 12)" as my masters degree thesis. I ve been reading through the 'dead' precious plastics forum and i see that there has been quite some interest through the years, to connect the precious plastic universe with schools. I am beginning with the design of a course stream and i will also address some data related to equipment, workshop space design and safety issues. I am juicing a lot of information from the precious plastic research and my whole project is inspired by it and of course i will give back to the community the results of my study. My question would be if anyone has experience from doing workshops with kids or has already design a course route for kids recycling plastic already and would be willing to share her/his experience about it. I am on my second year as an art teacher at a primary school, so i have some experience with designing courses already, but any input could help me and the outcome of the study.

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What is one thing that the community needs help on right now that we can contribute to? Ahoy hoy all and thank you for the invite. Our team works as a transport for dreams or in simple terms, a non-profit think tank/accelerator. We are is authentic, we accept the outcome, and we do the uncomfortable. Do we fit in nicely here or what? Assuming were all busy, however if time > 0 then check us out at https://bluprnt.org. Our intention here is to help this community grow as precious plastics is one of our inspirations. Cheers (edited)

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What is one thing that the community needs help on right now that we can contribute to? The question itself might be part of the answer.

Finding a good polling system where questions like that can be asked and opinions of the community can quickly, transparently and efficiently be revealed, has been on my "to do" list for a while. But it's tricky finding an open-source system with all of the necessary features. Also, doing it without adding layers of complexity that might dissuade people from participating in the first place. But, fundamentally, you're right. We're not doing it because it's easy of even "fun". We're doing it for more important reasons than that.

You can try using reactions as the poll. If an informal quick poll will do the trick.

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@IronNay great idea but hoe do you simply make the instructions for everyone to understand the "legend" behind it. It would have to be preformatted options or generic. Do some bots maybe have some pollng functions that can be enhanced? If everyone was using # on key terms sorting and grouping to an external but accessible document (from discord) maybe an option.

2:08 PM

Could Github do that? Or are we not already doing that somewhere within PP discords? just capture, sort/edit (full time job) and webhook it back. If it was possible to be collected and sorted into a doc when entering a sequence of keywords in the discord search bar. Should hit up #discord to make or collaborate on a solution. (edited)

I've been carefully considering all the angles, for months. • Yes, reaction polling is simple. But we know from server usage statistics that participation in that is generally lowsy. It might be because votes are not anonymous. Also, there is a significant part of the community that hasn't made it onto Discord. (They either can't or don't want to.) • Yes, there are ready-made bots for polling. As mentioned before, bots that are not self-hosted, come with their own set of complications. • Very often, top suggestions need to be aggregated and ranked according to preference. That gives a better result.

And quite a few other issues as well. A "prefect" solution is unlikely. One that ticks as many boxes as possible is preferred. Then, there's the question of if users will adopt it. Who knows? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Convenience and ease of use is usually the winning factor. People generally don't care about the actual reasons for doing it a certain way.

@Frederik C (ZA) swae

4:05 PM

Its fantastic for what you are looking for I believe.

4:06 PM

I’m happy to help as we are integrating that into the platform I posted above

I'll take a look.

Last but not least, I have no actual say on if One Army will use my preferred system. I can only recommend it in the "War Room."

Kind regards to you, the family, and our global community of impactors!

May your journeys be safe and your holiday be merry

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CrisLeash 🐙

try and ask at #archived-machines

...or #smelter, or #forge AFAIK, machine shops usually work from rough stock, like bar stock, etc.

CrisLeash 🐙

try and ask at #archived-machines

...although, #machine-shop, they likely have the resources, and will share

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@Frederik C (ZA) omg, he is so lovely

thank you kind sir!

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Hi guys! I'm new here... Where could I find the measurements for the tile's mould?

Is anyone aware that someone anywhere in Precious Plastic has made plastic to look like a rock? (edited)

jinpearl

@Plastic Paradigm @JuleAsterisk and whoever may be interested, I heard back from Precious Plastics: "I don't believe you would be able to receive a deduction for your donation. We are a Stichting (foundation) in the Netherlands, but we don't have the equivalent 501c3 status in Netherlands, and even if we did, I believe that would only count for Dutch citizens."

Thanks for this, it makes sense ... Our Treasurer is looking into whether we will be able to offer charitable tax receipts world wide. We would need the 'blessing' of Precious Plastics Europe, as they are the originators of this marvelous One Army to help the world become sustainable. I think a letter of support from them to be able to do this. What do you think @DaveHakkens ? Fingers crossed! https://www.canadahelps.org/en/charities/the-society-of-high-prairie-regional-environmental-action-committee/ (edited)

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Admin folks; can you guys make a room where folks can ask what plastic is used for what purpose to help folks identify where to source plastics in the real world. My recent discovery is giving me hope but also fear that we have a vast amount of HDPE being lost to landfil due to non identification of such plastic products. i have been collecting and identifing plastics during 2020 but some plastics are harder to identify unless talking to the product producer directly which is a pain but if we have a community chat thread we could have a resource library of plastic resources within our community. (Where to find it, how to clean it, how to process it for recycling etc)

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CrisLeash 🐙

I'm mostly interested in how to melt aluminum and make molds for it, a lot of waste has aluminum. It could become one more recycling badge. Anyone thinking the same or different?

there are undreds if not thousands of how to aluminum casting videos on Youtube. Myfordboy channel, king of random, veggieoilguy, among many others

Aldothegreen85

Admin folks; can you guys make a room where folks can ask what plastic is used for what purpose to help folks identify where to source plastics in the real world. My recent discovery is giving me hope but also fear that we have a vast amount of HDPE being lost to landfil due to non identification of such plastic products. i have been collecting and identifing plastics during 2020 but some plastics are harder to identify unless talking to the product producer directly which is a pain but if we have a community chat thread we could have a resource library of plastic resources within our community. (Where to find it, how to clean it, how to process it for recycling etc)

the issue with the HDPE films is something we have been working on at Precious Plastic Philippines. We have found a few workable methods but at the moment lack the funds to conduct more research. The big issue with these films is shredding to feed them into a extrusion machine and make pellets. The shredded material from our machine even after grinding 3 times is still too light weight to feed properly. However there are methods... One is that you can shred and then pass thru a pellet mill. this is a much lower energy input method than the extrusion-filament-chopping method. We have been exploring this issue to use these pellets as feed stock for the extrusion machine and our plant pots as a small scale operation. We are also looking at a plastic paver or roof tile finished product.

5:05 AM

https://resource-recycling.com/ here is a good industry resource for recycling

Resource Recycling Inc. publishes acclaimed business journals for the recycling industry. The company also produces three annual conferences and trade shows

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Thanks Butte

here is a interesting product from plastic someone could do...

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local sales price is 14usd

@Butte (PP Philippines), thats a good one, shared that with credit to you posting on our server, thanks for sharing.

the wood plane is not my product. someone was selling locally on FB marketplace this made from PVC. 15USD local price...

hello

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precious plastic universe

Hey everyone, I’m summer from Addis Ababa. New to one army and looking forward to learning.

Butte (PP Philippines)

the wood plane is not my product. someone was selling locally on FB marketplace this made from PVC. 15USD local price...

I uderstand it is not your product, thanks for sharing it here, otherwise I would possibly not have seen it.

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@erica quantify "noise". The machines are not that noisy, well a little. Noise compared to what? What is your constraint?

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Hi everyone! I want to build the shredder and start my precious plastic adventure! The only problem is that I can't find the CAD files for. The basic shredder.... Can you help me with that?

Repost from earlier

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I remember there was a designer who used upcycled clothes in his design. I can't place his face or name. His ad popped up once on youtube.

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Then there was this youtube channel that showcased machines and inventions for self manufacturing. Can't place the name either.

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Do these sound familiar to anyone else?

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Frederik mentioned ShelterSuit and Make Anything but those don't appear to be the ones.

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I should be back on in ~6-12 hrs

@Eric Lotze can you please help me with the download files? I just can’t seem to get it to download. Is this a common problem? P.s I need the shredder, sheet press and extruded machine blueprints, thank you in advance.

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@alesons I’m having the same problem. I can’t seem to be able to download the starter kit at all. If you find an answer, please let me know.

Hello everyone I am Obaid from Pakistan (I am a chemical engineering student)and new to this server just wanted to know more about precious plastic , want to start my own plastic recycling business so I had some queries related to it

@summer @alesons https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download This download-kit doesn't work for you?

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

@magi SVK yes it doesn’t work. Maybe we can find a way to get the file through telegram or something???

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It just gets stuck and stops.

@magi SVK There are blueprints to make the machines right? For laser cutting and such. (edited)

@magi SVK yes it works, but I can only have cad files for the shredder pro

@summer yes, there is everything you need to start. Do you have problem downloading other stuff also or only this one? @alesons have you tried downloading again?

yes i'm doing it right now

@magi SVK didn’t have the 3D app , just download one from App Store . What app do you use to download

I don’t have a cad files

Butte (PP Philippines)

the issue with the HDPE films is something we have been working on at Precious Plastic Philippines. We have found a few workable methods but at the moment lack the funds to conduct more research. The big issue with these films is shredding to feed them into a extrusion machine and make pellets. The shredded material from our machine even after grinding 3 times is still too light weight to feed properly. However there are methods... One is that you can shred and then pass thru a pellet mill. this is a much lower energy input method than the extrusion-filament-chopping method. We have been exploring this issue to use these pellets as feed stock for the extrusion machine and our plant pots as a small scale operation. We are also looking at a plastic paver or roof tile finished product.

What kind of pellet mill are you using? I am looking to use something similar for low density textiles as well

i would like to use some images from the precious plastic website to compliment my research thesis and provide a better explanation to the reader. I think i read the answer to my question but cannot locate it. My question is: can i use images from the precious plastic website? Are they published under creative commons license? of course i would mention the source of the image. I also plan to translate my research to English and post it publicly for it to be developed further if anyone finds it interesting (design a plastics recycling workspace for primary school)

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Hi folks, I need some help creating up 3d designs of a product. We can pay for the work. I also need some advise on how to go about making the product (injection, compression, or extrusion). The product is a bagless rubbish bin for offices. can anyone help?

@everyone We are aware that we need a better FAQ management system. Many of the questions here are frequently asked. Although some can be answered by thoroughly searching the website and the Discord, some answers do fall through the cracks, unless you know exactly what to search for. I tried a FAQ tagging system on the Discord, using [FAQ]. It didn't seem to work. Also, users without the practical experience might know the answers, in theory, but would rather let experts answer. And, frankly, the experts are busy. And they volunteer their time. So, we need a system. And we are aware of it.

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As for the starter kit downloading issues: They have been around since the beginning of the V3 launch. We still don't know what causes the problem. The majority of users manage to download them without problems.

@Frederik C (ZA) The old forum were a nice place for having this kind of information and questions and it was google searchable. Discord is not the same as a forum, people use it mainly for short messages and, even with a search system, it is very challenge for anyone to search for a specific topic. I would also recommend to evaluate using Discourse as a FAQ system https://discourse.org/

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One solution may be to create a forum managed by a "group of curators" - volunteers that watch over discord and create posts based on the mos asked questions. Only curators could create posts, however everyone could comment to add information to a post. A wiki could also be another solution instead of a forum. (edited)

@Holly - PP Northern Rivers (Aus) we have advised various people on their project ideas and would be happy to help. We will reach out directly as well to discuss outside of the channel your specifics

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@summer & @Frederik C (ZA) depending on what download kit you can also download from the OneArmy GitHub page by clicking the green code button and then download via zip https://github.com/onearmy

ONE ARMY

ONE ARMY has 22 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

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There are some open issues with some of them where they may not have all the latest files or there are some mistakes. Some pull requests have been made but haven't yet been integrated

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@Jorge Gomes (semogj) The solution to aggregating the most wanted suggestions / requests and most asked questions might all be one and the same. And, yes, I doubt it will be done on Discord itself. Although there might be webhooks of some kind. To be fair, many of the World's top companies haven't figured out how to properly handle FAQs or "obvious" issues that might come up for beginners (in my experience, at least). So, we are trying to solve something that's clearly not easy. Many of the most promising online platforms, specifically for decentralized "interest groups" like us, are not that "old" compared to the internet itself. Doing collaborative knowledge building, without it turning into chaos, is actually harder than many people think.

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Frederik C (ZA)

@everyone We are aware that we need a better FAQ management system. Many of the questions here are frequently asked. Although some can be answered by thoroughly searching the website and the Discord, some answers do fall through the cracks, unless you know exactly what to search for. I tried a FAQ tagging system on the Discord, using [FAQ]. It didn't seem to work. Also, users without the practical experience might know the answers, in theory, but would rather let experts answer. And, frankly, the experts are busy. And they volunteer their time. So, we need a system. And we are aware of it.

Perhaps a bot that could automatically try to see if a question has been asked before?

There are bots for that. All the usual drawbacks. Plus turning a channel into "bot spam" if the triggers aren't configured properly. I'm generally not a fan.

guilt ridden optimist

Hello everyone I am Obaid from Pakistan (I am a chemical engineering student)and new to this server just wanted to know more about precious plastic , want to start my own plastic recycling business so I had some queries related to it

Don't be shy, what is your question?

alesons

Hi everyone! I want to build the shredder and start my precious plastic adventure! The only problem is that I can't find the CAD files for. The basic shredder.... Can you help me with that?

Did you find what you were looking for?

Papa J

Don't be shy, what is your question?

what type of plastics is this shredder not capable of processing?

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secondly is there anyone who is into chemical or biochemical processing of waste plastic?

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@Papa J yes thank you

guilt ridden optimist

what type of plastics is this shredder not capable of processing?

Start by reading all of the Academy. It will answer this and many more questions. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/intro.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-shSLvLOsoQ

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

thank you @Papa J

@Frederik C (ZA) I think there is a real issue that we read over and over the same stuff and often if you do a search you have answers and their opposite. The solution is curating with ML and let the bot send messages (not spam the channels). No idea if that's really what is wanted. I think the forum acted as a knowledge base and to me Discord is really not replacing it, just adding another tool. The current situation is really killing the life of discord

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Manju

hello

hi are you from India?

Hello there. Nice to meet you all

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@PlasticAtBay_Julien_NScotland I think the forum acted as a knowledge base and to me Discord is really not replacing it, just adding another tool. You're right. That was the original intention. I think, for whatever reason, developing the new OA platform from scratch, has become much more complex than Dave intended. I think we all expected to have a new forum system by now. But as Allen Saunders said: "Life is what happens to us while we are making other plans."

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Last year my "catch all" response for everything that doesn't work in the World was "...because: humans." Now, until the foreseeable future, it's "...because: 2020 /2021."

Hey guys I'm having the following case: 1. We are trying to get plastic recycling off the ground in Petra, Jordan (yes - one of the seven new world wonders) 2. We have cooperation with local management of Petra & Tourism industry surrounding it -> availability of waste plastic, etc. 3. All of the above is not the main point why I'm posting here, as we are looking to set this up and engage for funding RFP's / requests for proposals QUESTION: Are there already templates available / groups active that focus on getting the precious plastic group going with templates on requests for funding as an NGO / development organization, in response to request for proposals coming from aid organizations? I have tried to google & find on preciousplastics, found not what I'm looking for. I'm a business development guy with an engineering background - what I wanna do is make it easier for small scale NGO's / initiatives to apply for fundings. Also input from experienced people in the NGO-scene is welcome on how to tackle this (edited)

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Hello hello, is there a own project kamp site here on discord too? I cant find it

@Monika go to #🖐start-here and click on project kamp emoji.

thanks but it doesnt work . do i need another software for that ? Nitro?

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oh now it works - i have searched for it .. thanks

@magi SVK just tried the links (from Canada) it takes me to the Icon and thats it! Even with a right click and "follow link". This happens for all the icon posted in "start here", the connection link is broken, it comes up as this for me: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/783460928250576967.png?v=1nncetion (edited)

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) i forgot, you should "unclick" precious plastic i guess. Or even not, it works for me (edited)

not sure what you mean?

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@Mirco (CANADA, ON) so the icon flash/do not flash

no

When you hover over it then it says click to learn more, the explanation on the bottom says "react on the emoji below to open more options" that does not seem to work at all.

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) how is that? Did you click on project kamp icon and the channel doesn't appear? (edited)

exactly, it hasn`t worked for me, ever. The links are broken when clicking from here, it is linked to the icon.

works for me

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) you said "when you hover over", that mean you're on PC? Maybe there's some inconvenience. In mobile app it works fine. (edited)

yes PC

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@IronNay what is the link code before it connects? are you on a mac?

on PC. I can turn them on and off. No issues

this is what I see when I click

click the emojis on the bottom

2:47 PM

not in the description

this is what you see when you hover, a call to action -

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The ones on the bottom don t take you any where, isn`t the point of the link to take or link the NEW user somewhere? (edited)

they aren't suppose to take you anywhere The channels specific to those topics unlock and then you can see them in your channel list

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OK, I see it just highlights the channel on the side, which can`t be seen if it is hidden, it should open the channel.

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So the hover over the upper icons is misleading, could say click the icon below.... The ones below could open the channel rather than high lite? (edited)

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@IronNay I know "they unlock" is clear to you

, to a new user that doesn`t know what to expect when he clicks it may seem it does nothing especially if the channel bar is partially hidden, which was the case for me. Anyway just an observation to make it even easier than it already is. The "hover message" on the upper icons- could it be changed? You are so intune you may miss to see the view point of a new user experience

. Just trying to point out to make it as easy as possible, peoples attention span is only a few seconds on something like that, they are not going looking around to much... I like the idea. (edited)

Maybe it should say exacly what you said in there (On Top), "The reaction icons at the bottom are unlocked when clicked""they appear in the channel list" (that is provided a new user knows what a channel list is) (edited)

Happy new year to all of you !!

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Happy New Years to all

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Happy New Year on behalf of Precious Plastic Canada Discord Server Members to all. (edited)

If we have any javascript experts here who know how to work on improving an OSM interface for mapping data and getting the map points in & out of its database, I have a friend in the PP project who is looking for some help.

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@4ndy , JavaScript will be outdated by tomorrow morning again but let's see. OSM seems peanuts

Happy new year everyone (edited)

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Happy new year for everyone

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Happy new year

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HNY !!

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Happy new year!!

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Im working on a recycling tires project and I would like to add it to precios plastic, currently we are creating furniture

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Is that ok to use a logo like that?

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This is the one I’m currently working on

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Is it something we should share with in precious plastic framework?

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Surely we could replace wood with plastic beams , but would add weight

Do you recycle or refurbish used furniture?

Currently create new out of recycled materials, but could refurbish too

Happy new year Alvaro!

I suppose that the first item has a couple o tires and all of it covered with fabric? I would be interested to see how the second one is made. I am not sure if precious plastic is for upcycled creations, but in which way would you like to add it to precious plastic?

Create how-tos, add things to bazar, I have already sold Those, so also share business model. Maybe add it as a new “point type” like a community point or collection point (edited)

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Yes ,first are tires covered with fabric

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Second one is like this

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Tires release lots of VOC when heated , and few when grinded, its a hard material to recycle due to wires inside, mostly end up in landfills or burned, I found this to be a more eco friendly alternative (edited)

Nice creations. I have also tried to cut tires with wire (there are a few without) and it war quite a pain in the ass. It would be nice to have how to's, but i am not really the appropriate one to advice you how to connect these with the precious plastic universe. I am active here for a week or so... Maybe someone "older" could advise/suggest...

Thank you

6:21 PM

That’s what I’m looking for

6:21 PM

But not sure who to ask

Maybe @Precious Plastic ?

Hi guys... Just testing interest out there. We at Precious Plastic Philippines are looking to fund raise 1500USD to conduct more experiments in recycling thin film plastics. Bags, sachets, etc that are normally not recycled. Our experiment is to buy or build a feed pellet machine to make pellets with plastic and use in our extrusion/compression molding process. At this time we are able to shred and process bags, but the resulting flake is too fluffy to feed into the extrusion machine without someone constantly pushing the material into the screw. Also there is a lot of air so the resulting product is very bubbly. We know we can mold this waste product, however we need to advance the work by conducting this important experiment. If you are interested in contributing PM me for our paypal. All funds go towards the purchase and building of a pellet mill. Due to COVID our sales have been extremely slow this year which has hampered out R&D efforts.

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@alaherma hello how can I get in touch with you.. I am interested in learning your process.. thank you very much

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❓ Hello! By any chance, is someone here knowledgeable on CNCs, specifically the maths that drive them and how matrices are involved? Thanks! (edited)

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Oh yeah it's for university, we have to study matrices. Our math teacher, who I'm not sure actually knows much about the matter, give us the task "linear matrices are used in CNC, make a whole presentation on that", without any ressources. So I'm just asking around to see what I can find. But yeah it's not really about "practical use", seeing the involved math I just expect it to be thrown to some software and most users not really having to deal with it. Thanks for the info anyway! :)

hi everyone, I wanna show you all a website that I think is super valuable to go through. It shows the wealth inequality the US faces today, and really everyone faces to some extent. https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

Wealth, shown to scale

Inequality in the United States is out of control. Here we visualize the issue in a unique way.

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@Butte (PP Philippines) Hi there, seems like you have met the one and only Guenter of PlasticHub. Apologies, I assure you that you aren't alone in receiving harassing messages, he makes alt accounts all the time. The Mod team takes this seriously.

Dude adds me as his friend acts nice, then all of a sudden gets all bi-polar

Yeah, it seems he's been harassing quite a few people, PP team, mods, community folks all the same. Please don't hesitate to report similar suspicious and harmful activity.

I take Precious Plastic extremely seriously and guys like him are a threat to not only my livliehood, but the liveliehood of the people we have full time working on building machines in our shop and and doing R&D

Understood, please keep up the good work, and don't let this get you down.

hahahaha

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I havnt been in this Discord for some time, and the first thing I see is the guy again making trouble

@Hugh Can you make an channel about 3d-printing please?

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O sorry i didn’t saw there was one

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#just-chatting is for... chatting

. See channel description: "Share news articles, thoughts you have or jokes." It's not even a Precious Plastic channel, now that we've merge with One Army. If you're not interested by the general discussion, feel free to mute the channel. (edited)

@Ley Klussyn sure, i just thought it was distracting from all relative to one army and really loooong. I will remove my comment above. (edited)

Hi, happy new year for everyone

Happy new year

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Happy new year everyone!!!

We've started the year in the same lockdown level as we last had in July 2020. So...

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Hello, I am a student living in Myanmar, Yangon(I am not from there though, I'm from South Korea), and I am considering to contribute to the precious plastic community by starting a shredder workplace(and if all goes well a mixed workplace, although I doubt it). Currently there are no other precious plastic workshops/centers at all in Myanmar. I am reaching out to seek help and your advice on the machinery and on the aspects on starting a workshop. How difficult would you say is making a shredder machine(without much training on machinery)? The kits and machines are so expensive in the bazar... sorry if this is the wrong server for this.

We did have a beginner member in Myanmar. They might not have registered a map pin, for whatever reason. It's hard to say what is feasible. Depends on the tools available. Also depends on mentorship. I know of a case of High School students being trained to build the V2 machines. With the right workspace, the right trainers and a few weeks of dedication... who knows? It's very difficult to say.

Double the time needed, if you have a language barrier.

I just watched the precious plastic make a shredder video, posted in 2016. For me having a background in building and assembling, it looks quite an easy build, even though i ve never looked really closely a shredder anatomy in the past. The central axis would need to be lathed at machine shop, if you or none of your friends have a lathe, you order the parts cut from a local laser cut shop and find a right motor for the job. If you do not weld metals yourself, you could easily order them at a shop to have a frame build and a hopper. This all stand for the basic version shredder though. Then electronics assembling. If you want to make the Pro one, it would be basically similar as building techniques, with more material and maybe a little bit more complicated. So, as Frederik says, it depends a lot on your understanding of machinery and the dedication and effort you are willing to put into this. Doing the most of it yourself should be cheaper than buying a ready one, but still you would be needing a small capital for it, and of course your time on this.

Hi I'm also trying to build the shredder, and I saw this other person on YouTube bought the laser cut parts directly on the Precious Plastic website, does anyone know where on the website I could do that I can't seem to find it?

There's no standard service, unless you're referring to the "official" starter kits sold by PP HQ. It was probably an independent supplier on the Bazar. Search the Bazar for "shredder kit," or similar. That's usually everything you need shipped to you, unassembled.

Ok thank you

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Hi there, new to the community. I am hoping to build my own shredder but want to start with the single axis model for simplicity. Does anyone know where I can find the laser cutting files for the basic shredder? Thanks!!! (edited)

watching the #6 monthly news, at the community news i see a reference to a group called "explora" from italy, who have made their machines childproof in order to work with children. There is not any links in the description of the video about them and would like to get in contact with them if possible or see more of their work. I couldn't find anything on the archived forums as well. Does maybe anyone know something about them, or maybe even better are they active here on discord?

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ColeCrawford

Hi there, new to the community. I am hoping to build my own shredder but want to start with the single axis model for simplicity. Does anyone know where I can find the laser cutting files for the basic shredder? Thanks!!! (edited)

Download the starter kit. It has everything you need.

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Hi all, what's everyone's opinion on buying shredded plastic from large recycling companies instead of using a Precious plastic shredder and collecting it yourself?

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@oatmilk can you send the link to that video

@spiros nik Better ask in #🥗europe as well. With the current system, Community Points in each region are supposed to act as the "connectors" for people interested in collaboration. It can be tricky to find people if they don't register map pins.

mmm, good suggestion! I already checked on the map and i emailed a group in Italy who seems to work on kids education, but i will repost the question in Europe.

Hello everyone, I am a student from belgium and will make an injection machine for my school project. Does anyone have tips for what i can tell more theoretically

sikilaci

Hello everyone, I am a student from belgium and will make an injection machine for my school project. Does anyone have tips for what i can tell more theoretically

what do you mean?

I have to present the machine to my teachers and tell more technical stuf, it has to take 15min therefore I have trouble with what I could say more.

tell them about the precious plastic philosophy, how the diy aproach bring the peopleo in the center of the problem and the benefits of open source communities and so on

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watch the videos of the different versions releases to know more about the history of the project

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and so on

Maybe include brief summaries of all the other machine types, and explain how it can be expanded into a mixed workspace that can produce multiple product types. With a product "gallery" and a brief description of each type. Using the demo videos creatively, you can probably "stretch" it to 15 minutes.

Hello all

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I'm new to playing with plastic. I have a few questions about plastic injection molds. Where or who could I ask

I mean creating forms. Do you have an idea how to relatively cheaply create a mold for a small element (4x2cm) with a metal element protruding beyond the mold, for an injection molding machine?

Hey @Kostek, are you referring to over molding a steel part with plastic, like a screwdriver handle? Happy to answer any questions you may have with mold design and manufacture.

Yes, something like that. Hook with a weight. Weight in plastic and the hook protrudes beyond the mold

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@Isometric Something like this (it's just made of epoxy resin)

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The original object that I was modeling on and that I would like to create looks like this

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@Isometric How do you think? I am able to create such a form at a low cost? Or Do I only have a professional injection molding machine and mold for several thousand PLN?

@Kostek It’s definitely possible to get a aluminium mold machined for that part. You would probably be looking at around 850-1150 PLN for the mold, maybe extra for design work if it’s needed.

@Isometric 850/1150 PLN (230/311 US dollars, $) is practically nothing at the price of the injection mold (from what I found out, it costs + PLN 30,000 (+ $ 8,130)). Can I ask for more information on how to create such a form, or where and from what?

, or where i can make form like that*

Depends on the end use specifications, doesn't it? What should the plastic be able to handle in terms of tensile / compression strength, heat, etc.?

@Frederik C (ZA) The photos I uploaded above show the weight. It is used for balancing car wheels. Durability is not important, it is only about the aesthetic appearance and weight of the plastic. No forces act on the element during operation (when the weight is on the wheel)

How about using moulding plastic then? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycaprolactone Polycaprolactone (PCL) sold under the brandnames: InstaMorph, Shapelock, Friendly plastic, Re-Form, Polydoh, Plastimake, NiftyFix, Protoplastic, Polymorph, ReMoldables, Plastdude,TechTack, Frogz Eggz, etc. I mean, I know I'm advocating the further use of "virgin" plastic. But it is recyclable with minimal effort. And I'm assuming you only need one or two units. Not worth bothering with an elaborate fabrication process. Unless I'm missing something.

Hello! I was hoping to find out where I could contact someone to make a mold. Sorry I am very new to the chat and still getting my bearings. Any info will be appreciated! thank you!

Unless I'm missing something. Maybe just the custom "engraved" letters. That can maybe be done with a Dremel or desktop laser or a custom rubber stamp. Or melt the PCL in a wood / gypsum mould. (It melts at 60°C.) (edited)

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@nastfreeman You've checked the Bazar already?

[FAQ] [mould] [design] [service] https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/moulds/ Design services should be near the top of the list, if you sort from lowest to highest price. You can search by location, if you prefer.

does anyone know what kind of this glove is?

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the one they use in video

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Tech Insider

How Nonrecyclable Plastic Bags Are Being Turned Into Speakers

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Rather post a screenshot, not just the video link.

What material should I choose for building injection molding machine? Feel free to email on shahabjamal16@gmail.com

Hey peeps! I am looking for the #robotics and #plastic scanner channels... Where they taken down? #question ❔ PreciousPlastic

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mhuels

Hey peeps! I am looking for the #robotics and #plastic scanner channels... Where they taken down? #question ❔ PreciousPlastic

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They were replaced by #deleted-channel (and #archived-3d-printing somewhat)

Frederik C (ZA)

[FAQ] [mould] [design] [service] https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/moulds/ Design services should be near the top of the list, if you sort from lowest to highest price. You can search by location, if you prefer.

thank you!

Hi, anyone here from Pakistan?

mariacastiel

así que bueno me he metido en la plataforma de traducción hoy, y a ver si nos ponemos con la traducción al español porque mucha gente lo ha comentado aquí en el discord, en el canal spain y mexico y otros, y estamos traduciendo cosas por separado cuando las podríamos traducir en la web.

¡hola! yo vivo en Madrid y estaba buscando más información sobre Precious Plastic - ¿dices que hay un canal de España? y otra pregunta ¿dónde se coordina lo de las traducciones? ¡gracias!

Hello everyone! I’m new here. I’m from Oahu, Hawaii

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This is my day in the Mad Scientist Lab (TM) https://youtu.be/3PR-57MN0WM

Watch SpaceX launch their first mission of 2021!!

Mad Science

Is there a chance of a PP version 5 like how it was in Eindhoven?

I can't speak for PP HQ, but whatever they launch in the future, will probably be developed at Project Kamp. That's the idea. Unless people get together and launch a major "fork" on all the machines. (A lot of the suppliers already do that, anyway.)

How do you guys wash or clean the Plastic? And how to do for a reasonable price?

[FAQ] [washing] [plastic] https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-washing-machine https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-sand-filter- https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-pre-wash Or use am unmodified clothes washing machine that you manually fill, with the water outlet attached to the external filter, and the plastic flakes contained in a very fine micro-mesh pocket (used in aquariums) or zippered bag or pillowcase. (edited)

Thanks Frederick

I'll Check it out

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You know... my brother and I are building the shredder and we don't know 1. what size of screws, nuts and tools are needed to assemble it (for tools I mean the tool to make the threads inside the holes etc). 2. The 28mm bar that crosses inside the shredder I have to take to the turner so that he can make the round parts of the tips but I don't know with what measures (what measures have the tips, what measure the center has) and I don't know if this measure is somewhere

Ask about specifics in #archived-machines. Material specs are sometimes different depending on country / region. (Metric, Imperial, hybrid, etc.)

Ohh.. ok ok, I see

for the tool search for "thread tap'. also look at the related starter kit to find the blueprints

I studied electro-mechanical engineering and Interior design after that. I have been working with metal my entire life since my father is a blacksmith and metal construction worker. I have created an injection molding machine 2 years ago just before moving to London. Now I am looking to sell this Adjustable Height Injection molder since it's just sitting here in Belgium not serving a purpose. I'm in need of a capital injection into my U.K based Ltd and looking to sell this injection crane, CAD files, and furniture designs created with this injection crane. I created this machine intending to inject recycled plastic at different heights. I created this one with the Precious Plastic-type in the back of my head but thought it could use an upgrade due to the fixed height. This could be used to inject plastic in a pre-assembled stainless steel mold combined with CNC cut plywood pieces to create the recycled plastic joints for tables, chairs, stools, etc etc. The Crane just needs to be wired properly but is ready to use as seen in the pictures. I'm selling the actual Injection Crane, all CAD drawings, and additional furniture Designs to start producing stools, chairs, and tables. If you have any questions about the price, dimensions, etc please contact me at your convenience. Purchase inquiries only, please.

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Controle box detail

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Detail tray

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Crane Conter Weight

impressive machine and although i appreciate your work, i don't think it is really common to sell Cad drawings or furniture designs in the precious plastic community, since it works by the open source ethics and many people here have worked a lot voluntarily on creating machines and designs with the intention to give it all for free to the community. You could maybe find someone interested in buying the machine itself though...

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as @spiros nik says, we all are volunteering a lot of hours into getting better designs so that everyone can profit of it and we can curb the current race towards the wall. maybe your machine would sell but it is unlikely your CADs would. You probably are addressing the wrong people.

Not sure where to put business chat, but what software or services are people finding useful to integrate marketing/leads/website (the dreaded business

stuff)? I am not organized by nature so I feel very disorganized trying to handle a lot of social media and staying engaged but also building my brand as well keeping the recycling conversation and interest going locally (since everything is so digital).

Hello guys, what's the approximate cost that a plastic brick would cost compare to the conventional one?

@rachana vema With the wealth of information from the videos and writeups about the brick, we can begin to estimate a part cost. Each brick uses 1.5kg of recycled plastic, which sets you back maybe 2-3USD, depending on the labour cost of shredding and sorting plastic. The claimed cycle time for one brick on the extruder pro is 4min (However this is filling time, there is additional time required to unbolt the mold and trim flash etc). Let’s assume around 10min per brick. If you are paying 15usd per hour of labour, that comes to $2.5 So far this doesn’t include the initial investment in molds, machines, electricity and workshop space, and those would have to be reflected in the final cost. Overall it costs around $5-6usd per brick, but a reccomended retail to payoff all the overhead costs is around 10-15usd. Again, this is all an estimate, and depending on labour costs and other factors you may be able to make them cheaper or more expensive. Hope this helps

There are faster methods to produce bricks, which fall outside of PP's currently used techniques. I'm still catching up on it, myself. But, for bulk production for the purpose of retail sales, one might have to face the fact that manual injection moulding, is simply not fast enough.

Does anyone have any of the bricks for sale? Or is anyone making them that would consider selling one or two? (edited)

Frederik C (ZA)

There are faster methods to produce bricks, which fall outside of PP's currently used techniques. I'm still catching up on it, myself. But, for bulk production for the purpose of retail sales, one might have to face the fact that manual injection moulding, is simply not fast enough.

100%. There’s a reason nobody else is doing it this way for production. The huge initial investment of a proper molding machine capable of a 1.5kg shot size is the holding back factor (edited)

Does anyone have any of the bricks for sale? It's mostly in informal trade. If you sell in "commercial" environments, you have the added red tape of building safety regulations. As always, it depends entirely on where in the World you are.

Hello Guys Long time dont see. hi hope you all doing well. I was just watching a youtube channel called Everyday Astronaut. on the 1:35:30 he talks about looking to mass production of Rocket Models for his channel 's shop. It looks to me he is looking for someone dealing with press molding or other technique other than 3D Printing.I dont know much about it yet so I just want to share. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=canlzf9dyIw LOOK FROM THE 1:35:30

Everyday Astronaut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=canlzf9dyIw&t=1h35m30s

For future reference: That's the link format for auto-jumping to the right timecode. (edited)

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No-one has asked in a while (which is good), but I'm just updating the FAQ, until we have a better system.

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[FAQ] [How To] [Get started] How to get started: Learn about plastic: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics Find one or more niches for yourself, in the Precious Plastic Universe, in your location: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/universe Check the map to see what's near you: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map Calculate the financial action plan, if you are planning a formal business structure: https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/business-tools Deciding what products to make is a long, trial and error process that depends on your environment and community. You can get ideas from: The # showcase channel on the Discord server, https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/products, and the community tutorials at https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to Look through the Academy playlist for basic information on building machines: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtYgsstkMPuXdOmvoUYAc0oDoFlk_Ztsp You can find the machine schematics at: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download Buy ready-made machines, unassembled machine kits, moulds and recycled plastic products on the online Bazar: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/ (edited)

Frederik C (ZA)

Does anyone have any of the bricks for sale? It's mostly in informal trade. If you sell in "commercial" environments, you have the added red tape of building safety regulations. As always, it depends entirely on where in the World you are.

I don't require them for construction as such. I am setting up a military Mental Health project and the bricks are a key part (GIANT LEGO). I would just like to aquire some as a visual representation for the people I am approaching for funding. We will be making them, in the not to distant future (edited)

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Hello! Who knows how much plastic do you need per mound. I found this moly’s on how to on your site. I am trying to count what's cost price per product

Ley Klussyn

They were replaced by #deleted-channel (and #archived-3d-printing somewhat)

Thank you!

hello everyone! my name is elissa and I am working on recycling hdpe through shredding them then putting them in a sheet press and then cooling the sheet in a cold press. My HDPE board is warping and has a lot of voids on the inside and bending. Do you have an idea why this might happen? Im putting it on 210 degrees Celsius and I even tried leaving the board to cool down at room temp in the cold press but same result.

@lucy are u folding the hdpe while it's hot?

Hey no @Sgt.Stickers

I want it to become a flat sheet/board

I did not stage this picture...

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Wsup guys, so I have endless amount of plastic water bottle supply, is there any health concerns about recycling those bottles? And are the lids HDPE ?

the caps usually are HDPE

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I hope this is the right place to ask, but I have a group that wants to set up a shredding workspace. I would love to talk to anyone who has done that. Do you find the shredded plastic sells? Thank you ❤️

you could have a look at this for start.. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/599284493525843984/798240892586688583 https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/599284493525843984/798240892586688583

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Can we meet in the living room?

Looking for @Bradford

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Looking for @Bradford

Uh, hi?

Can we discuss an idea?

Hello everyone, I am a 16 year old student that has a pasion for repairing broken electronics. As you all know e-waste is getting a really big problem. My idea is to create some form of business to repair and resell broken electronics. For example: You drop your phone and the screen gets smashed and doesn’t work anymore. Most people will just buy a new phone and trow this one out. While the actual phone is still working fine so its a total waste to just trow this phone out when we can just replace the screen. Thats where I come in, I can repair this phone and give it a second life. I can sell the phone as ‘refurbished’ this basically means that the phone is working perfectly but it has been repaired. I have saved up €500 to start this business but sinds I am only 16 years old and I live in Belgium I can’t start a business

In Belgium people under 18 can’t start a business under 18 so I will need some other option until I turn 18. The ideas where I came up with are: Selling the phones locally using second hand sites or selling on eBay but eBay takes 10% from the money that you earn. The problem with that is that I don’t know if I can sustain myself. Does anyone know a better solution? Or maybe selling on the bazar?

Wow... Okay...

First and foremost, you should be following Dave's Phonebloks project. Secondly, see if there are any Repair Café groups in your region that might be able to offer partnership / assistance. The rest I'll need to think about.

Maybe someone in the EU / Belgium can help you create some kind of "loophole." Like maybe registering it as a non-profit or something. (That's where the Repair Café organization comes in.) Also, when you're 16, waiting two years seems like a century. But two years is really nothing. Another thing to consider, is that billions of working phones are discarded annually, because they are just "too old." My everyday carry phone is not even a smartphone. I'm fine with that. But I'll be forced to "upgrade" soon, for business purposes. (Dave also refused to get a smartphone until recently.)

Hi All. Name is Mark and I'm from New Zealand. I was told about the company and shredders from a friend that is going to be building the mini shredder for 3d print waste and I got hooked after watching some videos about them and the build of one. I download the CAD files and seen it is version 2.0. I then seen you have version 3.1 on the website with upgrades done to it so not sure if there is files for the new model or not? Are there new files or has any one got tips or info on upgrades to do to it? Thanks

Someone please add an emoji to that post, every time someone asks about the download kits. Maybe PP HQ will get the point, eventually.

Put a clickable button linking to <https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download> on the top banner menu of the Community website. Call it "Downloads" and surround it with animated strobing neon stud-lights and floating, converging arrows that pulse on and off.
I'm only sort of joking. 😉

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Frederik C (ZA)

Wow... Okay...

First and foremost, you should be following Dave's Phonebloks project. Secondly, see if there are any Repair Café groups in your region that might be able to offer partnership / assistance. The rest I'll need to think about.

Maybe someone in the EU / Belgium can help you create some kind of "loophole." Like maybe registering it as a non-profit or something. (That's where the Repair Café organization comes in.) Also, when you're 16, waiting two years seems like a century. But two years is really nothing. Another thing to consider, is that billions of working phones are discarded annually, because they are just "too old." My everyday carry phone is not even a smartphone. I'm fine with that. But I'll be forced to "upgrade" soon, for business purposes. (Dave also refused to get a smartphone until recently.)

Thanks for the reply! Ill have a look for something local, i haven’t thought about that. Thanks!

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Another thing I've noticed with smartphones is that the phone developers stop updating the OSs at a certain point and app developers stop giving updates the older OSs; so if you have an older device, you cant download newer apps even if there was a previously compatible version

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Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio]

Another thing I've noticed with smartphones is that the phone developers stop updating the OSs at a certain point and app developers stop giving updates the older OSs; so if you have an older device, you cant download newer apps even if there was a previously compatible version

Hey Natu, Im in Cleveland, where are you from?

Hey guys, my name is Vishal Mehta and I am from Mumbai, India. I am 22 years old and I just graduated from university with an undergraduate degree in mechanical engineering. I am really interested in combining human centered design and engineering to develop tangible technologies that can add value to people’s lives sustainably. Like the One Army community, I too believe there is an art it shaping the world that is both human and useful as well as the idea of “making it is the way of having it”. My goal is to engineer for impact so that I can empower power to the people to take control and maximise their resources. Being sustainable is the need of today’s world and being able to innovate, maximise resources and make products and communities that are pushing towards the goal is what our future is going to be because we live on the world’s greatest planet on Earth. I am super grateful for this community and you guys for all the help, tips and new innovations and I can’t wait to see what 2021 has in store for us. I just want to share my graduation project with you guys and would love to hear your views on the project. It is a semi autonomous solar powered beach cleaner to clean plastic waste from the beaches of Mumbai. It is a project that me an my friends passionately undertook after visiting a number of beaches around the world ans seeing how clean and dirty they were. We decided to make the cleaner with PVC pipes (I know PVC is not the ideal recycling plastic but it has a very strong life in comparison to most metals(rust & corrosion) when it comes to withstanding sea breeze) and used custom 3D prints as joints for the PVC pipes. We couldn’t finish it due to COVID 19 and since it’s still in prototype phase we are looking to work on it get it on the beach ASAP. https://www.jamesdysonaward.org/en-SG/2020/project/clean-wave/

Clean Wave | James Dyson Award

Clean Wave is a semi-autonomous electric beach cleaning system, powered by renewable solar energy.

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Along with this I am also trying to find ways to recycle wood to make skateboard decks that I can paint and hang on my wall (MOMA in NYC sells these decks for $800+

). This is also the first time I came across One Army through the video where Dave @davehakkens spoke about making skateboard decks with recycled plastic. Another idea that goes through my mind is ways in which we can recycle or refurbish eye glasses ans donate them in people in need. I have been wearing eye glasses from the age of 7 and every year, I would change my glasses either because they were broken or my eye glass prescription changed (maybe they went out of fashion as well). I have always work acetate/plastic eye glasses (I used to play soccer/football) and I recently came across a box 15-20 frames just picking up dust in my attic and this got me thinking.......”There has to be a way where we can either recycle these frames or even refurbish them and donate them to people in need and there will be so many people like me.” Today a friend and I started making a few Precious Plastic machines (shredder) and I am super excited to be able to be part of this community and begin recycling plastic from my dad’s factory as well as from Mumbai. I know these are a lot of ideas and projects that I wish to take on and I am going to see through it one month at a time and hustle. I am also interested in cities and how they are planned because it’s really sad to see how Mumbai is becoming more car friendly day by day instead of pedestrian friendly. I am super excited about Project Kamp and to see more thriving urban living lab come up like this. I would love to get to know you’ll more and learn as much as I can while seeing the world through your eyes and help Precious Plastic and Project Kamp as much as I can together with everyone as a community. Please feel free to reach out at any time and keep doing what you guys are doing!! It’s really inspiring

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Would absolutely love brainstorming ideas and seeing the possibilities that lies in front of us and a few my impact projects.

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dannyp

Hey Natu, Im in Cleveland, where are you from?

I'm in the Columbus area

Guys and gals, i have a little question. Is BPA something i should be worried about when recycling plastic. I started reading and its making me panic a bit that BPA could impact on my recycle business potential.

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How many lbs or kilos of plastic does it take to make one of the Lego looking bricks and what is the physical dimensions

Aldothegreen85

Guys and gals, i have a little question. Is BPA something i should be worried about when recycling plastic. I started reading and its making me panic a bit that BPA could impact on my recycle business potential.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135059/

Critical evaluation of key evidence on the human health hazards of ...

Despite the fact that more than 5000 safety-related studies have been published on bisphenol A (BPA), there seems to be no resolution of the apparently deadlocked controversy as to whether exposure of the general population to BPA causes adverse effects ...

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https://completehumanperformance.com/2015/09/11/bpa/

Why You Don’t Need to Fear BPA

The historical rule of thumb is: if big (especially American) companies say a chemical is not harmful, automatically assume that it is. There are far too many case studies you would have to ignore, not to accept the basic fact that it's a predictable trend.

Frederik C (ZA)

Someone please add an emoji to that post, every time someone asks about the download kits. Maybe PP HQ will get the point, eventually.

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/599284493525843984/798240892586688583 https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/599284493525843984/798240892586688583

Put a clickable button linking to <https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download> on the top banner menu of the Community website. Call it "Downloads" and surround it with animated strobing neon stud-lights and floating, converging arrows that pulse on and off.
I'm only sort of joking. 😉

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Already downloaded from that like and files are v2.0 If you go on there store you can see they have updated version 3.1 of the shredder.

Ask in #archived-machines. I'm not a builder, and I'm not sure what that means.

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Remember, there are many independent machine builders who make their own variants. They're supposed to indicate if they followed PP schematics, or not. If not, it's not a "standard" model. Besides smaller regional differences because of materials specifications.

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Hi everyone, im trying to make recycled filaments for my 3D printer and i have a question. Do anyone knows about the "cleaning process" I need to remove all the waste from the plastic in order to make a quality filament.. how can I clean it??.. thanks !!

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/wash-plastic-washing-machine https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/783423267821584416

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Granted exposure and all that too

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personal consumption of minute volumes from eating utensils etc VS industrial wastewater ruining ecosystems and communities

Hello. I have been working on starting a business to employ homeless men to recycle. Do u have any suggestions what motivates people to donate their everyday plastic trash

Recycle2021

Hello. I have been working on starting a business to employ homeless men to recycle. Do u have any suggestions what motivates people to donate their everyday plastic trash

By social nuges. Read the book Nudge https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nudge-Improving-Decisions-Health-Happiness/dp/0141040017/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Nudge&qid=1610580431&sr=8-1 Basically when you ask people for their plastic, tell people that their neighbours or a large portion of their city are already donating. Social influence is a very powerful tool.

Please can someone guide me very well on the possibility of using microwave in remanufacturing of Plastic, because I am about embarking on microwave redesigning for the purpose of plastic production? Importantly what are the challenges and how to overcome them during and after production.

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Hello PP community. Great news today. I have just been offered £49,999 to get Project Rebuild off the ground. Some big money to spend before April 1st. Here the journey starts

Thank you to all of :PreciousPlastic: for their help and support for getting me this far. And thank you all for the mental health help I have got because of your open source mindset: (edited)

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Anyone have a shredder box for sale cheap?

@recycledlife maybe it will help if you tell us where you are on the globe...

looking to start a plastic recygling nonprofit bunnies anybody know anything about the machines

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The space I will be moving in to

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Yes it is a gym at the moment but all of that equipment is being removed in the next couple of days

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

@recycledlife maybe it will help if you tell us where you are on the globe...

Kentucky USA

Recycle2021

Hello. I have been working on starting a business to employ homeless men to recycle. Do u have any suggestions what motivates people to donate their everyday plastic trash

Where are you

Hi everybody, I have a quick question about the Precious Plastic separation chart. It says that LDPE and PP will float on "alcohol" and the rest will sink. Ive spent hours researching the densities of different alcohols and each one seems to have such a low density that every plastic type would float on them and none would sink. Just curious if this was a mistake in the chart or did Precious Plastic use a specific type of alcohol or am I just missing something? Trying to separate LDPE from HPDE and cannot find a liquid with a density that sits between the two. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

Austin , Texas

I got it @cookingmad we attach shredder to all the weight machines and excesize equipment! We need to open a Precious Plastic Gym!

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@Mirco (CANADA, ON) and some pullie diven extrusion machine

You could call it the Lat shredder

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

You could call it the Lat shredder

Double entendre

Puts a new meaning to "get shredded"

when are we going to start the Precious Plastic online dating platform? i’ve realized i can only have a real relationship with someone as crazy about trash as I

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GarrettCadou

when are we going to start the Precious Plastic online dating platform? i’ve realized i can only have a real relationship with someone as crazy about trash as I

Come to the Precious Plastic gym to up your game

Terracene

Hi everybody, I have a quick question about the Precious Plastic separation chart. It says that LDPE and PP will float on "alcohol" and the rest will sink. Ive spent hours researching the densities of different alcohols and each one seems to have such a low density that every plastic type would float on them and none would sink. Just curious if this was a mistake in the chart or did Precious Plastic use a specific type of alcohol or am I just missing something? Trying to separate LDPE from HPDE and cannot find a liquid with a density that sits between the two. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

Er...no. For example, ethanol has a density of 0.789. HDPE has a density of 0.926~0.94. So it will sink in ethanol. PP has a density of 0.85~0.9, so the same thing happens. Mix water with ethanol. With a mix of water and ethanol a density of 0.92, PP will float, and HDPE sinks.

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Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

Er...no. For example, ethanol has a density of 0.789. HDPE has a density of 0.926~0.94. So it will sink in ethanol. PP has a density of 0.85~0.9, so the same thing happens. Mix water with ethanol. With a mix of water and ethanol a density of 0.92, PP will float, and HDPE sinks.

Thank you for the reply! I figured it was some type of water-alcohol solution. What is the water to ethanol ratio?

Buy a densimeter.

Ive been designing and thinking. Gonna make some recycled plastic musical instruments take this new recycle culture to a new level drums, guitar, ukulele, didgeridoo, stomp percussion, merakkas, sitarr, pedal battle boards... oh the possibilities.

Hello! Do you know how to attach bike tube to this door handle but in more pleasant way. On precious plastic site it doesn’t look really good to me and I just wonder how to make it look better and so it still work. On original product rubber is attached to the product and barely is seen and I would like to do the same. Or do u know any alternatives? On 1 photo u can see the rubber and I really wanna create the product which will look good and work good. Also from which type of plastic product would be more dense. Link to the product: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/hands-free-door-opener

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Terracene

Thank you for the reply! I figured it was some type of water-alcohol solution. What is the water to ethanol ratio?

You can try to get it empirically. Take 3 small pieces of plastic you know to be HDPE, LDPE and PP. They all float in water and sink in alcohol. Start by putting them in a small container half filled with alcohol, then add a little water at the time to increase the density of the solution. At some point the PP flake will start floating. This is your first tester (PP vs LDPE/HDPE). In a second container do the same thing adding a little more water until the LDPE flake is floating too. This one will tell LDPE/PP and HDPE apart.

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I learned how to do this mathematically in chemistry class at one point but currently blanking

i was typing something along this in #deleted-channel

Plus it would also assume water is at 1, which might not be perfectly accurate if it comes from a tap or well since there are likely other particles in there too

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anyone here do plastic recyling

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I should be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Natu 🇺🇸 [Ohio]

I'm in the Columbus area

Do you know if the cities still recycle in Ohio? I hear different things but most people are saying there is no more recycling at least in Cleveland and both regular and recyclable trash gets dumped into the same pile -- that's because China had stopped importing a lot of the recyclable trash. Do you happen to know anything about it?

Nope. maybe someone here https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598855096121425920 could help you?

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I always wAnna say something here, but everytime I try to make a positive contribution it always looks negative and whiny....... So I don't..., But today ....... It is what it is..... How far does this "save the earth" rabbit hole go? It seems like us little guys end up cleaning up the mess of industrial tycoons, forever, always throughout history..... There's a common thread.... A certain "jenese quois" if u will, concerning the social acceptance of settling for the lowest bidder....... I hate ranting..... Especially in chatrooms.... I hope someone out there with enough knowledge and experience with logistics can refer me to some good platforms...... I need to interact........ Being a keyboard warrior just doesn't cut it for me...... -----rant over------ ........ So y'all hear about kanye?????

this thing that you re saying, about us little ones cleaning up the mess does touch me... I ve been troubling about it and unfortunately that's how it always is.. A wave of trying to set up decentralized networking, bottom up though is probably better as a general change in attitude, rather than specifically working on solving a known problem, such as plastics. The problem cant really be solved if millions of tons of plastic continue get produced and consumed, by several hundred workshop involved. It is the better way for me (and maybe the only one) to get involved though and by pushing the general bottom up, open source, community based ethos forward, by welcoming and having involved more and more people...

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Perhaps

considering there's literally billions of people who decentralized accountability....... And that's just how it is...... But at the same time...... Lol, get ur tin foil hat ready....... Maybe it's a very well thought out conspiracy , .....?.... Am I using the word conspiracy correctly?????? For example, when corporations "conspire" to prioritize profit over everything...... Grrrr

..... I get really grumpy when I analyze the components of my own misery..... Decentralized? Vs centralized? Reminds me of a bunch of ants vs an ant eater....... Generations of ants , gobbled up by the ant eater...... Colony after colony, the little ants keep getting squished...... And that's just how it is.......

Sorry..... I need a better way.....

dannyp

Do you know if the cities still recycle in Ohio? I hear different things but most people are saying there is no more recycling at least in Cleveland and both regular and recyclable trash gets dumped into the same pile -- that's because China had stopped importing a lot of the recyclable trash. Do you happen to know anything about it?

I took a tour of the Rumpke plant a few years ago for college. Dayton takes the glass, and I know they bail up cardboard, plastics, and metals but idk where they go to. My neighborhood has different trucks for trash and recycling, so I know they go to different places (plus I took a tour of the trash place too)

How do other builders handle requests by clients who ask you to buy used machines back? Built a shredder for someone last year and they want to sell it back to me. I offered a substantial amount less as the motor warranty is half up and I have no idea if they misused it.

I wish I wasn't so broke, I would buy the shredder...... It's an untapped market up this way.... How much u charge? I'd like to be able to turn a giant skidder tire into dust, I have an acre of land but no cash..... @Butte (PP Philippines) its a catch 22 nowadays, everyone wants the best of everything for next to nothing...... It would be awesome if someone would come up n start something here, upstate new york

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Yeah I know

I should already have my own gig and be the most responsible person ever...... But I suck at life and that's not the case........ If anyone is in the area or close by, get at me , I need to do something

its about 1800usd for my big 5hp shredder brand new. Which is about 600usd less than the import chinese machines of similar design

I’m looking for the project kamp discord, I’ve seen others asking and the odd “click on the emoji” response, but (on mobile at list) there is no link opening on clicking. Would love to join a project camp discussion. I’m developing StarDome structures (think geodesic/yurt hybrid with easier construction methods), upcycled water heaters with beer bottles and a number of other experiments I’d love to contribute.

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jai!freemankind

I’m looking for the project kamp discord, I’ve seen others asking and the odd “click on the emoji” response, but (on mobile at list) there is no link opening on clicking. Would love to join a project camp discussion. I’m developing StarDome structures (think geodesic/yurt hybrid with easier construction methods), upcycled water heaters with beer bottles and a number of other experiments I’d love to contribute.

you should see it now x)

Hey guys. I recycle beach plastic, and I have just had the opportunity to buy soap tailored to our process. Like a soap maker is ready to concoct a special soap specifically to sell to our operation. I was wondering if any of you might be able to advice what i might want to ask for in the soap/ I'm also considering asking for two products, one for soaking and one for cleaning.

One army now ! I'm on it but don't know Why :)

Hi everybody, I’m new to this community. It’s nice to join people around the world with the same concern and drive to make things better! My name is Ad Wehlburg and I am from Guayaquil- Ecuador. I have a question and hope somebody can help me out. Our idea is to start a facility to use plastic waste and make bricks, beams and wood for the building of houses, schools, etc. Can anyone help me with the more technical details that constructors need for their professional calculations on the strength, flexibility, etc. of well made bricks, beams and wood with the Precious Plastic extruder and molds out of HDPE and PP, which seem to be the ideal raw material for the making of construction materials. I should be grateful for your help. Kind regards, Ad

i am not sure how deep the designing team has gone in each of the items referred, regarded having all these data. Also since we refer to recycled material there should be an area of measurements, since the material will vary a bit by batch. But if you import your data in a CAE programm, modeling the items you want to produce and assigning the materials you intend to use and the loads that will be applied, you should be able to come out with a range with maybe useful results..

Computer-aided engineering

Computer-aided engineering (CAE) is the broad usage of computer software to aid in engineering analysis tasks. It includes finite element analysis (FEA), computational fluid dynamics (CFD), multibody dynamics (MBD), durability and optimization. It is included with computer-aided design (CAD) and computer-aided manufacturing (CAM) in the collec...

Hey guys. I recycle beach plastic, and I have just had the opportunity to buy soap tailored to our process. Like a soap maker is ready to concoct a special soap specifically to sell to our operation. I was wondering if any of you might be able to advice what i might want to ask for in the soap/ I'm also considering asking for two products, one for soaking and one for cleaning.

@Sargasso hey bud are you wanting a soap that scrubs and is environmentally safe ask to have the soap mixed with natural abrasives something to cut through grease oil and the like if they use salt as the natural abrasive you could also use the bar of soap as a dreadlock shampoo. If you want the soap to be a statement of what you do regarding cleaning the beach you could ask for a similar look to plastic particles in the soap could be coloured salt.

? If its only to be used by you and your crew id ask them what scents they prefer if its a product they want to help you with sending a message to customers about littering and beach plastics it would be advisable to investigate popular soap scents to maximise the purchasability of the soap.

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Ad

Hi everybody, I’m new to this community. It’s nice to join people around the world with the same concern and drive to make things better! My name is Ad Wehlburg and I am from Guayaquil- Ecuador. I have a question and hope somebody can help me out. Our idea is to start a facility to use plastic waste and make bricks, beams and wood for the building of houses, schools, etc. Can anyone help me with the more technical details that constructors need for their professional calculations on the strength, flexibility, etc. of well made bricks, beams and wood with the Precious Plastic extruder and molds out of HDPE and PP, which seem to be the ideal raw material for the making of construction materials. I should be grateful for your help. Kind regards, Ad

There is no simple solution, you have to learn how to test materials. beam bending is a good way to start, a beam is placed on two fixed ridges and is gradually loaded in the center, the relationship between load and deformation constitute a workcurve. You need to produce a rather large number of these to prove the consistency of the product. some needs to be broken, both some of the stiffest and the softest. You need a local engineer or university to design a test rig.

So, on the machine builder business side of things. 2020 was a disaster, but all of a sudden last couple weeks, got a lot of shredder orders from local governments. Despite not paying the kickbacks or bribes that our local competition is doing. The additional sales, a solar project, and some donations is funding our plastic agglomeration research project. Our idea is to use a pellet mill machine to mold films into pellets for molding. Since plastic is amaphorous, and can fuse with friction at lower temps, it is looking like we can feed the already shred films into the pellet mill. We also have a tentative project to build a custom preciousplastic v3 machine with reels to feed continuous rolls of plastic films into the shredder. These plastic films are used up transfer printing material, similar to carbon paper. The printing is on money and check serial numbers. The machine will need a extra special build as they will need to shred 1000+ rolls a month which comes out to somewhere around 750 kilos. Then we will attempt to pelletize it and process into plant pots.

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Pellet mill we will view next week. It is a 3hp model.

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What kind of plastic can I use with each machine? Can LDPE be injected? I have found a file... But it doesn't specify time to be heated or if the temperature is in nozzle or barrel There is some chart about that... (edited)

AnthonyTH

What kind of plastic can I use with each machine? Can LDPE be injected? I have found a file... But it doesn't specify time to be heated or if the temperature is in nozzle or barrel There is some chart about that... (edited)

I had made basic version of extrusion machine. While working, we are not getting continuous output and smoke is coming. It will be helpful, if someone suggest the correct setting temperature of barrel and nozzle for smooth operation. We are using HDPE for extrusion process. We are running the machine at 70rpm. It will be helpful, if someone share the operating temperature range .

Hey all, I’m having some difficulty finding a clip bushing for the extrusion pro machine. I was wondering if someone could share which one they are using? Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEk1vTQEC-8

rctestflight

Snowcat Tracks KickStarter Update

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This channel is having an injection mold being designed for modular tracks

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I commented just now asking if they can Open Source it.

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Please up-vote that comment, so we can hopefully gain access to this great project !

Afternoon am new to this platform. Am from Africa Zambia and wanted to find out how easy it to access the machinery for precious plastic in my country or within southen african?

@probby Join us in the #🌽africa channel.

My first post ! Yay!! Any resources in Belize?? I have started a project there on Long Caye at Lighthouse Reef

hi all, i am from Jakarta, Indonesia. Is there any project already going here in my country so far?tried to look but it seems most of it was individual project.

Hey everyone from NYC! Who is thinking about the FLOOD OF PLEXIGLASS we are going to see, assuming the pandemic is eventually under control? All these dividers are going to be torn down and discarded. I’ve seen some artists melting their scrap acrylic for projects but can’t find any information anywhere about this upcoming plexi disaster!! Anyone have initiatives or examples to point to? Trying to get ready.

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[FAQ] [How To] [Get started] How to get started: Learn about plastic: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics Find one or more niches for yourself, in the Precious Plastic Universe, in your location: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/universe Check the map to see what's near you: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map Calculate the financial action plan, if you are planning a formal business structure: https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/business-tools Deciding what products to make is a long, trial and error process that depends on your environment and community. You can get ideas from: The # showcase channel on the Discord server, https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/products, and the community tutorials at https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to Look through the Academy playlist for basic information on building machines: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtYgsstkMPuXdOmvoUYAc0oDoFlk_Ztsp You can find the machine schematics at: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download Buy ready-made machines, unassembled machine kits, moulds and recycled plastic products on the online Bazar: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/ Check the pinned messages in all channels on this server for additional information. For information on more specific topics, you can search this server (click the looking glass

icon) or use your preferred search engine to limit your keyword search to the read-only archive of the "old" forums at https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/

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There is no simple solution, you have to learn how to test materials. beam bending is a good way to start, a beam is placed on two fixed ridges and is gradually loaded in the center, the relationship between load and deformation constitute a workcurve. You need to produce a rather large number of these to prove the consistency of the product. some needs to be broken, both some of the stiffest and the softest. You need a local engineer or university to design a test rig.

Thank you!

spiros nik

i am not sure how deep the designing team has gone in each of the items referred, regarded having all these data. Also since we refer to recycled material there should be an area of measurements, since the material will vary a bit by batch. But if you import your data in a CAE programm, modeling the items you want to produce and assigning the materials you intend to use and the loads that will be applied, you should be able to come out with a range with maybe useful results..

Thank you!

Frederik C (ZA)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_engineering

Thank you!

Oh, I actually didn't mean to repost it.

I guess Discord does that automatically when you make too many changes to an old message.

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Actually, don't know what happened. Well... pinning it anyway.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Frederik C (ZA) pinned a message to this channel. 1/22/2021 8:43 PM

Hi! I wish to start a project in Madgascar. How should I start ? Many thanks!

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Sorry friends, I originally wanted to post this in project camp but realized it is a closed group+ I wrote 4300 instead of 2000 words I'm not meaning to offend anybody and will keep it much shorter from now on. Hey friends, I need some help thinking. I'm new here but I'm following your activities for a while. Seeing that you got a place in Portugal made me wonder how you are organizing the governance there and how you collected the funds. I am asking cause it is my dream to be part of a universe of small communities where I can travel in between. I personally don't care about private land that much but I definitely like the idea of having a small spot somewhere where I don't have to pay rent and leave things for sometime. I am based in Australia and land here is still very cheap compared to the income. But I feel that will change in the next 20years, due to the fact that low prices are often cause the places are quite remote a few hours away from major cities but once self driving cars hit the market and you can go to sleep in your car and wake up the next morning on your beach/forest property + the ease of logistics that come with it all those remote places will skyrocket in price. Having this in mind I saw a property of 500hectars for half a million dollars filled with mostly forest, a permanent creek on the side of the property, 5 dams and 2 hectares of improved fertile soil. 1.5h drive from the coast, 1h drive to the next building supply store and located centrally between Sydney and Brisbane. It has been impacted by severe bushfires last year and needs sometime to regenerate plus the internal roads are blocked by fallen trees. My train of thought is like this: I personally won't live on the property now and I don't know if I ever will but if I can find 20 people investing 25k we could buy the property together.

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25k is an amount I can get over private no interest loan and pay back over ten years equaling to about 200$/month a relativley small amount in a country with 20$ minimum wage. For me this is an amount I am happy to invest into protecting forest from logging, land from speculation and opening up an opportunity for the future to build some type of eco village and having the access to some land to live self sustainable. Because 25k$ is still a decent amount people will want security, some type of rules/constitution, a basic set of ideas and principals and a governance form that makes it possible to organize the interests of all shareholders. At the moment I am looking into a sociocratic way of decision making and organizing. Making the dams and improved soil plus all waterways public land. Another 100hectares public land around the dams and fields where communal buildings can be placed as well as private buildings when the community agrees. All founders have a vote for main buildings and decision making. I like to protect about half of the property as a nature reserve for ever. Also protecting the property as a whole from being sold off at anytime. Putting down 20 circles of a few hectares size in one area of the map and then designating them randomly to the founders as private land where people can do their own decisions except for a few basic rules concerning sustainable land managment (no pesticides, etc...) My personal dream is a flourishing eco village pushing and producing the resources for sustainble opensource technology like yours or open source ecology (who doesn't know check him out:www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization/up-next?language=en#t-231494

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But I also know we all constantly change and what works now might not work in the future so by protecting a large chunk of the property plus giving personal land I am trying to mitigate the risk for a founder if they don't find themselves in line with the community ideas in the future anymore they have protected forest and still have a small place for themselves(or more protected area if they don't wanna live there) I am thinking a lot the past week of how I can make people interested enough in investing and how to pull it off. I would really like to know your opinions and experience, open questions.... I also have some things where I am looking for an answer like: Can I and if I can how can I give my share to another person? Who needs to agree? Can I join the group with main voting rights in the future by investing 25k+inflation or should it be limited? Do permanent residents which are not shareholders pay rent to communal funds? Excited to hear your ideas :) Hannes

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interesting subject. although project kamp related indeed. My two cents on this is that i would really need to know the people well before building a community and even then i would need to have all the participants sign a private agreement about some bare minimum agreements... moving to plastics, i think i have seen in a precious plastic video that there have been a regulation where manufacturers have to mark their plastic products with the 1 to 7 numbering code (resin identification code). Although i find online the current standard related to this https://www.astm.org/COMMIT/d7611.pdf i don't find any information indicating of a legislation that companies have to actually use it. I see it referred as a suggestion... Does anyone have related info? I thought it was mandatory...

spiros nik

interesting subject. although project kamp related indeed. My two cents on this is that i would really need to know the people well before building a community and even then i would need to have all the participants sign a private agreement about some bare minimum agreements... moving to plastics, i think i have seen in a precious plastic video that there have been a regulation where manufacturers have to mark their plastic products with the 1 to 7 numbering code (resin identification code). Although i find online the current standard related to this https://www.astm.org/COMMIT/d7611.pdf i don't find any information indicating of a legislation that companies have to actually use it. I see it referred as a suggestion... Does anyone have related info? I thought it was mandatory...

I would also be interested in the answer to this. I don't believe there is any international legislation about this. However in practice it does seem to be very widely used. I live in Mozambique where the regulatory environment is weak (to put it mildly) and there are several domestic beverage manufacturers who run very low cost operations. However even their bottles, tend to have the 1-7 markings on the cap (HDPE) and the body (PET).

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https://discord.gg/cGZ5hKP

Frederik C (ZA) pinned a message to this channel. 1/24/2021 9:20 PM

That's the official invite link. As long it stays active it will show the current member count.

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Server statistics provided by Discord indicate between 4000 to 5000 active "server views" from members in a month. That's people who actually read posts. (edited)

Hi everybody I would like to introduce myself

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My name is Jeff, I am an American living in Thailand who is currently working on putting together a shredder

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As far as i understand, a symbol on products indicating that the material used has been recycled does not exist. All of the symbols indicate other things and even the famous mobius loop was actually somewhat designed in a way in order to confuse the public. I was wondering, wouldn't it be a nice idea if we could come up with a symbol indicating that the material used has actually been recycled? ...

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spiros nik

As far as i understand, a symbol on products indicating that the material used has been recycled does not exist. All of the symbols indicate other things and even the famous mobius loop was actually somewhat designed in a way in order to confuse the public. I was wondering, wouldn't it be a nice idea if we could come up with a symbol indicating that the material used has actually been recycled? ...

That’s a great idea!

The legal murkiness of the "chasing arrows" symbol in most (if not all) countries would also apply to such a symbol. I like that people are suing companies (for false advertising) for using the arrows despite them having no actual recycling programs in place. It's a start to creating financial consequences for green-washing, and drawing public attention to the Plastic Crisis. (edited)

3:33 PM

Nonetheless, making a new symbol would be an interesting graphic design challenge.

well, the thing is that the chasing arrows symbol does apply in a way and supposedly when it is filled with a percentage, then it shows how much of the product has actually been recycled. but the thing would be to be something completely different in order to not have anything to do with the so much misleaded used symbol. For anyone who would like to get informed, in plastic wars documentary it is explained in which way the plastic industry actually knew about the misleading effect of using this symbol and actually rejected every proposal of not using it. In 2008 ASTM proposed the use of a simple triangle instead of the chasing arrows logo, which is also used today to some extend https://www.astm.org/COMMIT/d7611.pdf Many mark their products with the "100% recyclable" which is nice, but maybe a graphic design to oppose to the famous abused triangle and probably would have nothing to do with it in terms of design, could be nice... It would be nice also if this would arrive from the community (the industry anyway wouldn't bother...)

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the plastic industry actually knew about the misleading effect of using this symbol Oh, yes. No doubt. And now they're doing the same with "compostable" and "bio-plastic." Those scumbags know exactly what they're doing. Yeah, corporations and marketing firms are just "super principled" and "upstanding citizens."

Hello all. I did not realize that there was a discord server! name is Callum. I have been following this project for a few years and have had the goal of setting up a workspace to make circus props. i work for a circus charity and I am finally in a position to build my first machines.

Here are a couple of pieces that i made using a toaster oven and a DIY press. Some direction would be very helpful if there is anyone that would be able to advise me please

Ηι Callum! what are you interested in learning?

Hello Spiros nik. I would like to build an injection mold machine and a shredder I have just seen the new video from PP Melbourne and would like to follow the design of the log splitter injection

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I have got a hydraulic log splitter and will be constructing the injection molder myself. i've checked the map and unfortunately there are no local machine builders. the main thing that i wanted to check is the pipe diameter and which band heaters were best

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Unfortunately i don't have experience building these machines yet. I guess you have downloaded the related blueprints and you want to ask more specific technical questions. A better place for these would be the machine shop channel https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694

Ok, Thank you for your help

Not directly plastic, but an exciting revision of current economic models! https://time.com/5930093/amsterdam-doughnut-economics/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Amsterdam Is Embracing a New Economic Theory to Help Save the Envir...

It’s the first time a major city has attempted to put doughnut theory into action on a local level

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Hello! My name is Thomas. I am a student (16) and would like to gain work experience and also help the planet at the same time I was curious what I could do in my area (Hong Kong)?

@Frederik C (ZA) , I am posting your "how to get started on our Precious Plastic Canada Discord, I trust that is OK, will credit you with putting the info together... (edited)

Not sure where to place this question, but I have a brand (pre-launch) that I would like to create a closed supply chain and make it easy to recycle the waste. I’d like to set up a program where the waste can be sent to a collection point/recycling center that takes, specifically, recycled clear lip balm tubes. I’m not sure how or where or if that is even possible.

Thomas.mj.colling

Hello! My name is Thomas. I am a student (16) and would like to gain work experience and also help the planet at the same time I was curious what I could do in my area (Hong Kong)?

maybe look on the map for a precious plastic point in Hong Kong and contact them. If you cannot manage to contact anyone maybe you could try to make a community point with some others

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) Careful. You pinged the wrong person. That's not me.

Reusing the FAQ entries is fine for anyone who needs it. Go ahead. That's what it's for. We still need a more streamlined lookup and editing system, though. It remains on the to-do list.

Sorry, got it. Could not ping you on our server as you were not on there.

Shhh.... I'm lurking in the exotic Canadese Wilds. (I worked with a Canadian once. That was our joke.)

@EmiF I doubt very much that you'll find Collection Points that can reliably handle industrial scale waste streams in a timely fashion. Precious Plastic is more geared to small micro-factory businesses with just a handful of workers at each site. You might be better served looking at the companies contracted by your municipality. It's just a time and costing issue. (edited)

@spiros nik Thanks for helping with FAQs. You could try just pointing newcomers to the pinned messages. It is my hope that it will at least partially work, for now. Also, for them to learn how to see pinned messages is a good "first day" tutorial for Discord. Nonetheless, according to Discord statistics, 60% of our user base are new to the platform (as I was, when we started in 2019). So, I've pondered a "Discord For Beginners" server for a while now. Then, that goes on the hypothetical "to-do list," on top of everything else.

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yeap! nicely said the pinned messages suggestion!

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I was interviewing Daniel Borden today for my Countdown to the Moon project (http://CountdownToTheMoon.org) and we were talking about some of the technologies that are needed for space colonization that would also help the earth. I mentioned to him that we need a way to loop our waste chain into our supply chain. And that one place to get started is to have a device at home that will take our plastic and turn into things that we need. And he mentioned Precious Plastics. It is awesome to see this community exist. And I look forward to learning more. I want to see about getting our North Houston Space Society (http://NorthHoustonSpace.org) to set up a community center... I'm pretty excited to be here. (I've signed up as a patreon... and look forward to learning all that you all have to teach me.. and hoping to be able to contribute some how as well)

I am not really into humanity spreading across the universe. (we already created a big mess in this planet..). But i m really into the loop idea of actually having no waste and everything turned back into the supply chain as you say. An interesting related (and well known generally) study a digged a bit and i want to dig more about is called "from cradle to cradle"

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spiros nik

I am not really into humanity spreading across the universe. (we already created a big mess in this planet..). But i m really into the loop idea of actually having no waste and everything turned back into the supply chain as you say. An interesting related (and well known generally) study a digged a bit and i want to dig more about is called "from cradle to cradle"

will look into Cradle to Cradle

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I would be very interested in interviewing you for my project

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I started in 2019 interviewing a person a day till 2024 (when Nasa is planning to send people back to the moon) to find out what people think about the future of humanity (using our return to the moon as a conversation starter)

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I was planning to interview people at coffee shops, on the street, at the stores (which I did until March 2020). But with Covid I have had to move the vast majority of my interviews online

8:53 PM

and had mostly "pro space" view points. I'd like to capture some of the views of people that might have a different opinion and set of values

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Here is a little more about the project with a link to sign up for a day if you are up to it: https://www.countdowntothemoon.org/interview-me/

GadgetNate

Interview Me!

thanks for the invitation. i am really busy at the moment but i ll check it out at some point

4 more years left to the project. so plenty of time

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i found out that the forums are down and if you have a question or an idea discord isnt the perfect place to plublish it becouse not every one will see it so i think it would be smart to use reddit instead intil the forums are fixed becouse here are the post and the comments separately. https://www.reddit.com/r/PreciousPlastic/

r/PreciousPlastic

The forums are not "down," they are closed to new members. Those of us who had active accounts prior to the One Army launch, can still log in. But if they will continue to be used for "blogging" purposes, remains to be seen. We will eventually migrate to something else.

https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/shredder/shredder-kits/complete-welded-stainless-steel-shredder-kit/

Complete Shredder kit

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can someone give this man my e-mail

5:10 PM

slavenminic@gmail.com

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Creating profile on preciousplastic is unavilivble for some time

Hi Everyone! I am working on a project involving a continuous extrusion of HDPE plastic as shown in the picture. I was using a temporary roller system made of wood dow rods, but now am looking to focus on a creating a better roller system. Using the dow rods also allowed the boards to warp and I am looking for a way to minimize the warping. I was thinking of something along the lines of a small conveyor belt... Please feel free to share any ideas

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@Slaven please report the problem in #deleted-channel.

Looks great @hhaalleeyy11 !

Eric Lotze

Looks great @hhaalleeyy11 !

Thank you!!!

What is the general layout of the extrusion barrel; does it have a "cooling section" after the heater?

An idea for the download kit link on the community website

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@spiros nik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code

In the U.S. the Sustainable Packaging Coalition has also created a "How2Recycle" label in an effort to replace the RIC with that aligns more closely with how the public currently uses the RIC. Rather than indicating what type of plastic resin a product is made out of, the four "How2Recycle" labels indicate whether a plastic product is 

• Widely Recycled (meaning greater than 60 percent of the U.S. can recycle the item through a curbside recycling program or municipal drop-off location).
• Limited (meaning only 20–60 percent of the U.S. can recycle the item through a curbside recycling program or municipal drop-off location).
• Not Yet Recycled (meaning less than 20 percent of the U.S. can recycle the item through a curbside recycling program or municipal drop-off location).
• Store Drop-Off (meaning the item can be recycled if brought to participating store drop-off locations, typically at grocery stores).

Make sure to check if they have any proposed symbol designs.

Hello everyone, I would like to know what type of cable is used for the electronics of the basic plastic injector?

Frederik C (ZA)

@spiros nik https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code

In the U.S. the Sustainable Packaging Coalition has also created a "How2Recycle" label in an effort to replace the RIC with that aligns more closely with how the public currently uses the RIC. Rather than indicating what type of plastic resin a product is made out of, the four "How2Recycle" labels indicate whether a plastic product is 

• Widely Recycled (meaning greater than 60 percent of the U.S. can recycle the item through a curbside recycling program or municipal drop-off location).
• Limited (meaning only 20–60 percent of the U.S. can recycle the item through a curbside recycling program or municipal drop-off location).
• Not Yet Recycled (meaning less than 20 percent of the U.S. can recycle the item through a curbside recycling program or municipal drop-off location).
• Store Drop-Off (meaning the item can be recycled if brought to participating store drop-off locations, typically at grocery stores).

Make sure to check if they have any proposed symbol designs.

mmm, interesting

I want that + an "ingredients list" (like food does below nutritional info) (edited)

@Weizweed Ask in #archived-machines

Do you think the world is doomed by plastic? Today im kinda sad bc i saw a lot of documentaries about plastic pollution

I wouldn't say doomed, for the most part earth is very resilient, so not DOOMED. Will their be measurable harm, yes.

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I think also panic is what causes humans to fix stuff. Britain waited for that "Great Smog of London" before realizing Air Pollution Control needs to be a thing, The USA only passes the Clean Water Act AFTER they Had rivers CATCHING ON FIRE

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So i think that since we now have beaches covered in plastic, "the great pacific garbage patch", animals consuming/being entangled in plastics, as well as social media / journalism documentation of all this, that humanity will be "panicked enough" to fix things

12:51 AM

Granted here in Florida USA we already have programs for proper fishing line disposal by rivers/ponds/beaches (little PVC pipe units for disposing of it, usually quite full, not 100% effective, but there is a push for reducing ghost nets")

12:51 AM

Also that AMAZING plastic sailboat project is spreading awareness

12:53 AM

Really the solutions are there, we need to just make the "Average Joe" concerned enough, and hold governments / corporations accountable with collective action of the people in order to get the various solutions to plastic pollution under control

12:53 AM

Some things i referenced that are interesting topics to read up on

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London

Great Smog of London

The Great Smog of London, or Great Smog of 1952, was a severe air pollution event that affected London, England, in early December 1952. A period of unusually cold weather, combined with an anticyclone and windless conditions, collected airborne pollutants—mostly arising from the use of coal—to form a thick layer of smog over the city. It lasted...

12:54 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River

12:56 AM

Also the Ganges is reaching a similar level of "unacceptable/avoidable" pollution and is spurring some pollution control regulation? (Not a person in the region, or diplomat/expert in the field so do double check me on this)

Personally, I don't really understand questions about whether or not there is "hope." Let's assume there is no hope. What has changed? Nothing. It means there was no hope when you started either, and you were just too stupid to realize you were wasting your time. What's the alternative to trying? Pretty much being as apathetic and disengaged as 99% of the population who basically don't give a

and just want to have as much fun as possible before Homo Sapiens go extinct. Which is where most of the problem comes from, in the first place. Frankly, promising success is intellectually dishonest. Any douchebag salesman can promise you success with zero evidence for the claim. The odds against success are extremely high. But trying beats not trying. There are stupid and less stupid ways of trying, though. Also, the planet was here for 4.5 billion years before we showed up. It will keep spinning on its orbit whether we are still here or not, for quite some time still. It's us polluting and wasting and fighting ourselves to extinction you should worry about. The planet can take care of itself (when we're gone.) Bacteria and fungi are already eating our plastic. Give them a few million years, and they'll clean up. But, yes, humans might very well be too stupid to survive their own greed. Chris Hedges puts it quite simply: "I can't promise you that we will succeed. But when I go to my grave, I want my children to know that I tried."

Hello everyone! Working and experimenting in the biodegradable products world for 2 years. It's a blast for me to even see this community exist! I want to thank everyone who works or even cares about this beautiful purpose!

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Really I dont care if the world is going to spin with out me or not. Im talking about all the people and life that is dies right now because i wanted a bottle of cocacola. Or the people that are loosing their houses because of the north pole melting. We are truly destroying our home in unreversable ways.

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4:43 AM

I mean im not into the nothing matters speach. Things mater right now.

4:43 AM

idk

Definetly

k7

Hello everyone! Working and experimenting in the biodegradable products world for 2 years. It's a blast for me to even see this community exist! I want to thank everyone who works or even cares about this beautiful purpose!

Hey I could really use your help

No need to "catastrophise" too much, or "nothing matters (there is a word for this i just forget it) " it. I think activism, and (the somewhat less effective/important) personal choices are enough and valid. You not being some godlike 0 waste person does not make you a bad person littering etc obviously would ! and it doesn't HURT to go that extreme, and it may help some if you are able But honestly, just be a good activist+advocate, and try and be sustainable in your day to day life

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yes!

Also think of what you can change/what is in your "sphere of influence". No need loosing sleep over something you can't change (again collective action can, so this isn't a "nothing changes position" but this is not something that should be a stressor for you, moreso a goal) (edited)

Hi guys ! me and my friends is making a podcast that aims to encourage people to act for our environment. The first episode will be issues around plastic bags&reuse plastic, and it will be great if I can hear stories/ experience/toolkit from you guys ! (2min quick talk) and surely these insightful ideas will be great for our listeners too ! if you are interested to share plz leave a comment below (we can do a quick call in here and record) Many Thanks!

Hey everyone, I am part of the business incubator program at my school. Our product is a recycled polypropylene 3D printer filament. Our product is made from recycled super sacks. Please consider following or Instagram @fyder_filament

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Hi everybody I am new here my name is Kelly and I am a resin artist I am currently looking for ground and shaved pieces of soft plastic that I can use for a new line of jewelry that will be Casten Resin so I’m looking for a little curly cues of plastic in a variety of colors. I want to buy 5 to 10 pounds at a time for the jewelry that I’m making. So if anyone knows where I can find a recyclerThat has equipment that can shave or grind colored plastics into small pieces that can fit in a piece of jewelry that is 1/ half inch to 2 inches in size that would be awesome. Once we have developed the line and have the designs we want we’re going to be looking for this type of plastic on a regular basis. I’m also looking for other little interesting things that would look good cast in resin. Tiny little plastic toys tiny little plastic jewelry findings you name it anything that I can recycle from plastic to make new jewelry necklaces bracelets earrings #just-chatting #archived-beyond-plastic #deleted-channel #recycledjewelry (edited)

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Kelley_Art4life

Hi everybody I am new here my name is Kelly and I am a resin artist I am currently looking for ground and shaved pieces of soft plastic that I can use for a new line of jewelry that will be Casten Resin so I’m looking for a little curly cues of plastic in a variety of colors. I want to buy 5 to 10 pounds at a time for the jewelry that I’m making. So if anyone knows where I can find a recyclerThat has equipment that can shave or grind colored plastics into small pieces that can fit in a piece of jewelry that is 1/ half inch to 2 inches in size that would be awesome. Once we have developed the line and have the designs we want we’re going to be looking for this type of plastic on a regular basis. I’m also looking for other little interesting things that would look good cast in resin. Tiny little plastic toys tiny little plastic jewelry findings you name it anything that I can recycle from plastic to make new jewelry necklaces bracelets earrings #just-chatting #archived-beyond-plastic #deleted-channel #recycledjewelry (edited)

Hi kelly, it's look like a good project. I think I could make a little piece of plastic for the jewelry. It depend of the difficulty level and details that you want. And also the place where you live. Don't forget the eventual shipping cost.

i m working with the floor-plan that i found in the mix workspace download kit, trying to design a workspace. I have opened the pdf with inkscape and i have some difficulties moving the items around. They seem to be bound together in some sort of groups, and the ungrouping commands of the program do not do anything. Also i try to delete nodes and the program does not let me. Has anyone tried to work the floor-plan in a similar way? Did you have any problems? Maybe it was not designed to be used digitally and it is purposed for printing and cutting... I redraw the tool shapes in order to be able to rearrange them, but now i try to copy paste edit the grid, in order to design a bigger space and i thought before trying to redraw the whole grid to ask if anyone knows about it..

Is anyone extruding more than 10kg/22lb a week with a V3 or V4 extruder and making money from selling an end product? I'm keen to get a feel for a break even point

Random Question: does anyone have experience with reusable coffee cup rental schemes/co-ops? And would reusable cups like that be a good product for making out of reclaimed plastic?

Hi @Ulfrigg I have the same question. I have worked on a design over the last year or so trying to combine the environmental benefits of localised recycling within the coffee shop. My understanding so far is this process is prohibited by food contact materials legislation, EU directives state recycled material must be done by a certified recycler that can guarantee some kind of chain of custody of the plastic and how that process prevents contamination. I have worked around this so far by using stainless steel and/or glass to contain the coffee and then using plastic to insulate the hand from the heat therefore there is no food contact with the plastic. This leaves the question, what do you do for the lid? I don't know this answer but if you have any ideas or further information it would be great to know.

I'm over in Canada, so my regulations are probably different, but this is useful starting info. I'll do some research and defo keep you posted, H0Y

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Thanks, I'm from the UK so maybe legislation will change in the coming years

@hhaalleeyy11 I'm a Haley as well

Eric Lotze

What is the general layout of the extrusion barrel; does it have a "cooling section" after the heater?

In this situation we were using fans which were not very effective. I am working to come up with a more effective way of cooling along with a new roller system!

Lilandra

@hhaalleeyy11 I'm a Haley as well

Woohooo! Haley's are where it's at lol

Hey, greetings from Uruguay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jGDC_njrrs

Ronald Walters

Recycling (Grinding) Silicone Mold Rubber

6:18 AM

Anyone tried something like this (granted i don't know how many of you encounter/work with silicone or other thermoset elastomers (if that is the right term?) )

6:18 AM

I wonder if the shredder could handle it?

Greetings from South Africa

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hi!

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if anybody ever wanted a sign that the world was ending, I just watched a flock of geese flying north, which is not something Canadians generally witness in January

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Jaykob

Click to see attachment 🖼️

the coupling is to small, you need somthing bigger!!

Hi, I just rented a workspace to start a Precious Plastics operation from scratch. Any pointers?

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@ALeeWhi do you have machines? Moulds, ideas?

Pete here, doing what he does, 'cause no one else is... https://youtu.be/ueRIaqNtOLQ Making shit , outta crap. .and giving zero fucks along the way.. Scrap film, bags and all manner of thin waste to create functional robust material. Enjoy

pete abrams

w Tim Plasticrete

hi! Do you know where i can find this logo vector files?

8:35 PM

im trying to update this

8:35 PM

8:36 PM

to use one army logo instead of precius plastic as we are reusing tires to make furniture and they are not plastic

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Hey guys im Diego and I live in Panama! I am about to order the laser cut pieces for an extruder and shredder pro and was wondering if all the pieces can be done in caliber 18 304 stainless steel? [10:47 AM] I ask because some of the specifications in the 2D blueprints specify other metals, is that because of making it more affordable or because those metals are needed for that specific part for example mild steel etc. Thanks!!

alaherma

to use one army logo instead of precius plastic as we are reusing tires to make furniture and they are not plastic

Well isn’t rubber a plastic polymer?

9:37 PM

So I mean I love your adaptation of the Precious Plastic logo. Unique and identifiable for sure.

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Vegan Monster

Hey guys im Diego and I live in Panama! I am about to order the laser cut pieces for an extruder and shredder pro and was wondering if all the pieces can be done in caliber 18 304 stainless steel? [10:47 AM] I ask because some of the specifications in the 2D blueprints specify other metals, is that because of making it more affordable or because those metals are needed for that specific part for example mild steel etc. Thanks!!

@Vegan Monster SS will not last as long as the hardened steel. Check with your local steel supplier so you can either get hardox steel or similar, or laser cut tool steel and have it temped. It is more expensive but worth it in the long run

Any one know thickness of steal for blocks mould trying to have it cut for me and I need to know thank for any help

mike g

Any one know thickness of steal for blocks mould trying to have it cut for me and I need to know thank for any help

Brick molds are cut in 5mm steel

12:20 AM

If you're in the US 3/16" (4.76mm) works too.

Sadly I have put down a deposit for two pro machines to be made and after six months they’re still not finished. Communication is scarce and dwindling. Be careful who you partner with in getting machines made!

Abe

Sadly I have put down a deposit for two pro machines to be made and after six months they’re still not finished. Communication is scarce and dwindling. Be careful who you partner with in getting machines made!

Sorry to hear it Abe, I know making these is hard and even harder during the current times. We've certainly had our struggles during the year but hopefully your machine shop can gain some traction and finish your machines.

Thanks. I’m tired of waiting, I am wanting to order another set of machines and if I wind up with Megatec’s machines too, I’ll put them to use as well I suppose.

@CitSciWorkshop thank you for your help I was trying to find some one to cut them for me and not having any luck if that somthing u can do I would love to try and work somthing out with some one here

Hi Rehms i'm Siddharth from India, what composition are you applying for making a paver block or brick as we are also trying to make a composition which is 70% polymer & 30% fillers but we are facing issues after testing it in UTM, that is elongation issues. (edited)

capt_killer_puss

Hello folks

, My name is Dave , I am from a beautiful state in India called Goa. Me and a couple of my friends are starting a waste management company. Starting off with just handling plastic waste . We also make bricks and pavers from waste . Excited to be part of the community. Cheers

Hi dave..i'm from Kerala we are also working on the same project to make paver block & tile but facing lot of challenges on R&D , can you help us out on this matter any #deleted-channels?

@siddharth82ak @capt_killer_puss Hello! We are also attempting to make structures partially out of plastic to help further research into more affordable housing, but we are just getting started. May we also have some advice? Thanks!

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/3/7/e1700782.full.pdf

Guys thought I would share this incredibly article on the production, use and fate on all the plastic ever made! Its a great resource to have accurate data for the educational portion of those who have integrated it to their structures.

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Hey, could someone get me link about the guidelinges regarding the precious plastic logo ? I can't find it

tsiour_p

Hey, could someone get me link about the guidelinges regarding the precious plastic logo ? I can't find it

https://onearmy.github.io/academy/universe/yourlogo

Make your own logo · Precious Plastic Toolbox

alaherma

https://onearmy.github.io/academy/universe/yourlogo

Thank you !

Is it possible to use the extrusion machine to make sheet, and if yes how big can it be?

i hope im not to late to this party , Just wanted to say as a newbie eager to set up Precious Plastic workspace in Belfast Northern Ireland .

Hey i am davide and i want some information with v4 extruder made of plastichub. Who have this machine? Works well and what can be done be done with this machine?

dadda29993

Hey i am davide and i want some information with v4 extruder made of plastichub. Who have this machine? Works well and what can be done be done with this machine?

Hi Davide, I believe you can contact them directly through the Bazar.

Hi does anyone have any experience with paying for plastic schemes in their countries? Not sure if it fits within the precious plastic universe but would love to get some feedback from anybody who has experience with it, thanks!

Hi does any one have any idea on how to melt PETE plastic, so I can use it to make projects, because I do woodturning so I will try to use plastic, I know how to work with HDPE. (edited)

Hey! Are there any existing efforts of building hydroponic or aquaponic gardening towers from recycled plastics? I am from Africa were malnutrition and plastic pollution are some major factors. We have (in some areas) little water, but a lot of sun for solar energy, which is why easy DIY hydroponic or aquaponic gardening methods seem very applicable to me. In case a system already exists, could someone please kindly refer me? In case it is yet to be developed, would there be someone interested in joining my quest? I recon this would perhaps also be useful for other lesser developed countries around the globe. If it could then be combined with the project ‘plastic banks’ the environment could be cleaned, less plastic waste could be taken downstream into the ocean, and hungry children could be feed. If someone is interested in the specifics of my intention, please let me know. I will also happy to provide how I intend to fund the project. Thanks in advance!

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Off topic but for the life of me I can not find information on ceb bricks. Specifically how many tons I need to use for compression.

1:52 AM

Client wants to put plastic waste in Ceb bricks

Soooo turns out.. don’t wash your shredded plastics in your parents washing machine. Also. Proper disposal of carbon filters?

Has anyone got any information in fire safety references plastic. What is the risk? If the work space catches fire what is the risk associated with that: fumes/added danger? If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be amazing.

Hi, could we sell on the bazar as a particular?

3:33 PM

or only if I'm a company

Hi, We are planning for a retirement exploring the world by sailing, to do this we are refitting a 1977 yacht to use zero fossil fuels (renewable electric generation, electric motor, electric cooking etc). We need to make some hdpe parts for the boat and that led us to Precious Plastic. Now we wonder if we can carry and use machines on the boat to recycle our own plastic waste, that from other cruisers and what we find on beaches (we know fishing nets, rope, textiles might be beyond our capacity). Goals would be to reduce the waste that cruisers need to leave at remote communities (who may not be able to recycle it yet) as well as being able to leave places cleaner. Plus if we can make new bits for our boat and for others then that makes our life more sustainable. We don't have much space on the boat (it is 38 feet long), we would need to pack things away while sailing and corrosion is a problem in a saltwater environment. Lots of cruisers despair at the plastic waste found on beaches and the lack of recycling of their own waste. However, they don't have space on their boats to carry the waste away from beaches and if they do there is nowhere to take it to. We wonder if we can help with that by turning some of it into bits for their boats, some into things we can sell and the rest into dense blocks that we can share out among the boats to carry to Community points on their itinerary. Obviously, this would be a drop in the ocean-sized problem but can't make things worse and may also have symbolic value. For power one idea would be to use a belt drive to power machines from our Electric Motor (48 volt brushless dc 32hp) - using it a bit like the first cotton mills used one steam engine to power everything using a long driveshaft and belt drives. So is this something that anyone else is doing? Any suggestions? (edited)

Hi there, my name's Stac and I'm a grad student. For my master's project I plan on making a percussion instrument out of HDPE that looks like a hedgehog cactus, a plant native to where I live. I was thinking of making a two part mold to create tubes needed, but I'm not sure how possible this is. Should I instead make solid tubes and then hollow them out and shape? I've never really worked with plastics before, so any tips are appreciated

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AMaj7

Hi there, my name's Stac and I'm a grad student. For my master's project I plan on making a percussion instrument out of HDPE that looks like a hedgehog cactus, a plant native to where I live. I was thinking of making a two part mold to create tubes needed, but I'm not sure how possible this is. Should I instead make solid tubes and then hollow them out and shape? I've never really worked with plastics before, so any tips are appreciated

it's kinds difficult to suggest solutions only from your description. Any sketches would help you to visualize and work on solutions and it would make ti more propable to communicate your thoughts in order to receive suggestions

spiros nik

it's kinds difficult to suggest solutions only from your description. Any sketches would help you to visualize and work on solutions and it would make ti more propable to communicate your thoughts in order to receive suggestions

I realize it's not the greatest, but here's a quick sketch I've come up with

Hey! I would like to come with some products out of plastic carry bags and other plastics which goes for incineration. Could anybody please suggest?

7:40 PM

And can we use all the scrap materials for all four machines?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-a-durable-tote-bag-from-plastic-bags

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-a-raincoat-with-plastic-bags

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

7:29 AM

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Hi @deleted-role, I would like to know how to write on #patreons-only channel. (I am a supporter)

Ra.úl

Hi @deleted-role, I would like to know how to write on #patreons-only channel. (I am a supporter)

Hi Raul, try to disconnect and reconnect discord to your patron account. It worked for me

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Hey there! We want to start a new precious plastic workshop at our university. One of our goals is to do events, workshops, demonstrations and talks in various places all over the city. For this reason, we're looking for the best mobile solutions to bring plastic recycling into every place we want. I already found these:

Bicycle Shredder V2 from Kunststoffschmiede (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/bicycle-shredder-v2)
"Plástico Fantástico" Bicycle Shredder (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-the-plstico-fantstico-recycling-bicycle-shredder)
another Bicycle Shredder (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/build-a-bicycle-powered-shredder)
Solar Plastic Injection (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/solar-plastic-injection-)
Integration Unit from Monash (https://www.preciousplasticmonash.com/machines)
Precious Plastic Shanghai developed a Bicycle Shredder, but I couldn't find more information, like plans for rebuilding it or selling opportunities. Do you know more projects like these?

We're not limited to Shredder and Injection, so if you know a project with for example a mobile Extruder, we'll be glad to hear. Thank you in advance! I'm looking forward to your suggestions. (edited)

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Ghwd29W-o

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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tsiour_p

Hi Raul, try to disconnect and reconnect discord to your patron account. It worked for me

hmmm not sure how to do it. From Patreon or Discord app? — thanks!

Ra.úl

hmmm not sure how to do it. From Patreon or Discord app? — thanks!

Just connected and disconnected but no result...

bonjour

I need som e help. i am new to this format. I'm used to having a number to call to ask a question. I have #7 plastic that I need to shred. I am not sure what machine to buy. It is cured Photopolymer resin. Anyone help me?

DentalR&D

I need som e help. i am new to this format. I'm used to having a number to call to ask a question. I have #7 plastic that I need to shred. I am not sure what machine to buy. It is cured Photopolymer resin. Anyone help me?

is this resin a thermoplastic? In any case you need a shrewder in order to shred any type of material...

Ra.úl

Just connected and disconnected but no result...

Solvedddd. I was paying out of regular pledges (edited)

spiros nik

is this resin a thermoplastic? In any case you need a shrewder in order to shred any type of material...

Im not sure? Its a liquid resin used to 3d print dental arches. The SDS says its a Photopolymer Resin. Whats a shrewder?

Plastic Shredder prototype testrun

spiros nik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Ghwd29W-o

A shredder yes I realize that. I just saw on preciousplastic.com they dont recommend #7 plastics for their machines.

correct. that's because #7 is a big group of uncategorised plastic

8:14 PM

you cannot know what a plastic is, just by reading the number 7, in contrast with numbers 1 to 6

8:15 PM

if you know though with what type you are dealing with you can process your material...

so how do I know if their machines will work for Photopolymer resin?

if you need something so specific and you are interested in a PP machine, you would need to somehow try it out. Do a test...

I looked on the map to see if there was anyone close by I could test with but there isnt. Do you have one of the shredders? I could send a sample to you? or how else? I cant buy a machine and it not work..

8:19 PM

i do not have a shredder, but looking on the map is a nice approach. So, have you located a specific machine you are interested in buying? Maybe contact the manufacturer to discuss about technical details then

thats what I thought I was doing?? This forum is how preciousplastic says to contact them or ask questions. I would call but there is no number.

Precious Plastic is a community and not a purchasing shop. There are several manufacturers active in this community building and selling machines, including the precious plastic core team. You could try to find a shreeder in the bazaar https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/shredder/, or ask at the machine shop channel https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694

thank you!

Are HDPE & PP& PS the only materials that can go into the injector mold

DentalR&D

Im not sure? Its a liquid resin used to 3d print dental arches. The SDS says its a Photopolymer Resin. Whats a shrewder?

If a resin has to cure when exposed to light, unfortunately it sounds to me like it can’t be recycled :( (edited)

johngotti

Are HDPE & PP& PS the only materials that can go into the injector mold

I believe so yeah. LDPE miiight work too in high quantities.

8:44 PM

PVC has chlorine, and PET requires dehydration

Hello everyone

Hullo everybody, I'm Braeden. I'm doing some research on recycling for a scholarship/my future career, and I was wondering what the difference between "Sheets per Day" and "Sheets Per Day with full system" was in the Sheet Press Pro information.

that probably includes the "cooling rack", and the rollers. So you don't have to have a cooling sheet "holding up" other filled sheets in the que

ah, ok, that makes sense. Without a cooling rack it would take way longer to crank out those sheets. Thank you Eric!

no problem!

where can i fins the necessary temperatures to melt HDPE PP and PS. The temperatures on an injector mold?

Есть кто говорит на русском?

Hello everyone I am from Le Mans in Western France. Want to start getting involved in the Precious Plastic community

Hello @Deleted User , welcome to precious plastics!!

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Hey you all, does anyone know if there is a way to create plastic bricks and larger extrusions by combining various plastic types and include plastics without removing labels?

Hello there

3:50 PM

Just discovered One Army

3:51 PM

I was staring at my 30+ bottles of Badoit, and just asked myself "Is it possible to recycle plastic at home ?"

3:52 PM

And that’s it, I'm here, really looking forward to meet like-minded or just cool peeps to share experiences with

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hey guys!! just want to ask, if you melt a transparent bottle will your dry/set product be transparent???

Felix Lachner ;)

hey guys!! just want to ask, if you melt a transparent bottle will your dry/set product be transparent???

Hi Felix, In our tests the end product was opaque/milky white. You'd need to add a clarifying agent to the PET to get that result.

@CitSciWorkshop thanks very much!!!!

Hello can I ask about the precious plastic?

3:48 AM

Is the edible bowl okay with washing it with water?

3:50 AM

I am asking this for a project

Hello, did anyone have a sample or template for proposal. I have a friend that kinda interested with plastic recycling but he need a proposal for investors. Can anyone help?

i dont know how to help you daniel

8:21 PM

hi! i recently was asked to give a catalog of the furnitures we are making out of tires, And i would like to know if some one here have created one four your PP products that i could base on to create my own.

Neytiri

Hey there! We want to start a new precious plastic workshop at our university. One of our goals is to do events, workshops, demonstrations and talks in various places all over the city. For this reason, we're looking for the best mobile solutions to bring plastic recycling into every place we want. I already found these:

Bicycle Shredder V2 from Kunststoffschmiede (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/bicycle-shredder-v2)
"Plástico Fantástico" Bicycle Shredder (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-the-plstico-fantstico-recycling-bicycle-shredder)
another Bicycle Shredder (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/build-a-bicycle-powered-shredder)
Solar Plastic Injection (https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/solar-plastic-injection-)
Integration Unit from Monash (https://www.preciousplasticmonash.com/machines)
Precious Plastic Shanghai developed a Bicycle Shredder, but I couldn't find more information, like plans for rebuilding it or selling opportunities. Do you know more projects like these?

We're not limited to Shredder and Injection, so if you know a project with for example a mobile Extruder, we'll be glad to hear. Thank you in advance! I'm looking forward to your suggestions. (edited)

Hey - I just saw posts from PP Malaysia in the last couple of days, they have a mobile workshop in a tiny truck... it looks amazing!

Hello! I am trying to build the basic extrusion machine and can't seem to find the starter kit or blueprints for the basic version. Is there anywhere I can look? The video doesn't seem to have the link to the blue prints. Thx!

@johnny.desros Hey! Does this link: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/extrusion have the information you need?

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Hi, Im looking to build a version of the shredder pro adapted for cardboard shredding (https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredderpro) is there any where I can grab the CAD files?

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A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Liri (They/He)

@johnny.desros Hey! Does this link: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/extrusion have the information you need?

Couldn't find any blue prints on this page :/

Oof I'll try to look more later... maybe someone else in #archived-machines can help you? @johnny.desros

CathdM

Hey - I just saw posts from PP Malaysia in the last couple of days, they have a mobile workshop in a tiny truck... it looks amazing!

Thanks for Sharing... Looks Great!

Hi, I need some help and informations on a piece for the Shredder where I can ask my question ?

setshu2

Hi, I need some help and informations on a piece for the Shredder where I can ask my question ?

maybe here https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694

Hello. I'm from Russia. We have a very bad situation with plastic recycling in our country. The government does not even try to support people involved in nature conservation. Therefore, I appeal for help to you who are not indifferent to this problem of a planetary scale. If you have the opportunity to help me financially, I will be very grateful. I need the funds to buy a Shredder and I have saved up for the rest. Your help is very important because we live on the same planet although in different countries. Paypal: tkr.rkt@yandex.ru ЮMoney https://yoomoney.ru/to/4100116517186996 Qiwi: +79882513081

Собирайте деньги через визитку в сервисе ЮMoney.

Hello everyone I want to start a precious plastic workshop in Bethlehem, west bank. Anyone here from the middle east?

@spacesea I'm from the middle east but don't live there right now, you might be able to find more people in the channel #🥙middle-east

Liri (They/He)

@spacesea I'm from the middle east but don't live there right now, you might be able to find more people in the channel #🥙middle-east

Cool I just figured it it out,

Hello from Canada. Recently Started down this rabbit hole. Looking to start a collection and shred space!

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Hi Guys. I need to buy a ready to use combo machine to recycle and process my owen plastic. I try to buy before but to be honest even doo there is lots of info is not simple to buy what you need I like to see my options and make the purchase today. Thanks

hello my name is Timo my english is bad. ich habe eine Frage. Darf ich die Datei des Mini Shredder 2.1 auf meiner Website zum Download anbieten Free no money. And may I sell lasered parts online on ebay. Can do that cheaply in Germany. I hope I'm right here and you can help me

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hello my name is Timo my english is bad. I have a question. May I offer the Mini Shredder 2.1 file for download on my website Free no money. And may I sell lasered parts online on ebay. Can do that cheaply in Germany. I hope I'm right here and you can help me ... Sorry

Zellim74

I found a few articles that look promising for fillers, but the temperatures are basically at the breakdown points of most plastics and the fillers would be unrecoverable. Used casting sand is another waste product that needs to be removed from the waste stream. The process uses 80% sand 20% plastics for the mix. The bricks are twice as strong as regular red bricks, but they look horrendous. The problem with redesigning the geometry is it ignores the underlying problem. The plastic deforms under the loads a typical family sized structure would produce. Also, the idea of building with legos is just too fun to pass up.

I am going to contact Concepticos Plasticos to see what he says. Maybe we can get a recipe for structural plastics!

hello, have you had any updates?

@Timo TW-Sonderanfertigungen Can't help you with your question, but you can join the German-speaking community here: https://discord.gg/PhYnv9E2AQ

Timo TW-Sonderanfertigungen

hello my name is Timo my english is bad. ich habe eine Frage. Darf ich die Datei des Mini Shredder 2.1 auf meiner Website zum Download anbieten Free no money. And may I sell lasered parts online on ebay. Can do that cheaply in Germany. I hope I'm right here and you can help me

We're open source in the sense that we share all the information, code, drawing and source material online. For free. All our content is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution - Sharealike International 4.0. You can read a summary of that here, or check out the full license. ‍

3:50 PM

from https://preciousplastic.com/about/open-source.html

Precious Plastic is Open Source

Find out how Precious Plastic works and shares knowledge with the world to tackle the plastic waste problem.

We're engaging in am upcycling project, and we've identified problems with accessing clean waste. Are there any machines/blueprints out there for cleaning? It's a low resource community, so it needs to be clever...

Never mind - committed the cardinal sin of posting before checking every corner of the website. Found the plastic washer....I'll be back!

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I'd be really interested in the plastic washer. Rotten milk not fun

I can't find the blue print for shreader machine

check the pinned messages

i was wondering about how much microplastic can be expected to be produced during the shredding process. we wash after shredding so we don't want our wastewater to contain high levels of microplastics

Has anyone experimented with sidewalk pavement tiles?

Hello guys, Mohamed from Egypt with you

2:52 PM

Actually i have a start up manufacturing with Egypt government and i have owned a finished factory from the government

2:52 PM

But without machines

2:53 PM

And i really liked the thermoforming plastic technology more than injection. I think thermoforming machine is simple and low cost according to injection

2:56 PM

But, i saw mini injection machine at" one Army" YouTube channel and i liked it's can gives my factory a variety of products with a minimum cost

2:58 PM

So, my question here could any one help me how to buy mini injection machine and oven with to make plastic plates from pellets

2:59 PM

Actually, also i am looking for anyone who have experience in the field to assist me for my startup. I am mechatronics engineer actually

anyone here experience with blockchain/dApps/crypto? Just created a One Army Coin (OAC) https://etherscan.io/token/0xf17e9e4e32d842e4ddfbed5750a26f7bd77777ee No idea what i'm even trying to achieve here. Sunday playtime project. (edited)

ONE ARMY COIN (OAC) Token Tracker | Etherscan

ONE ARMY COIN (OAC) Token Tracker on Etherscan shows the price of the Token $0.0000, total supply 7,850,356,921, number of holders 2 and updated information of the token. The token tracker page also shows the analytics and historical data.

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@davehakkens im very much into crypto. Have been for many years. I have a few good ideas how a token could be used as a recycling incentive for people

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Hi everyone, looking for more info on related info on the use of marine litter with the machines. Is Paul on this discord? (Sorry first time using this forum so not sure how it all works!) https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/ocean-plastic-research/

Paul

Ocean plastic research - Dave Hakkens

@cymek and I are working in the Precious Plastic & Parley shipping container in the Maldives til May. While we’re here one of our focuses is learning about ocean plastic, particularly - Dave Hakkens

jakeyeah.

@davehakkens im very much into crypto. Have been for many years. I have a few good ideas how a token could be used as a recycling incentive for people

what is it?

Hey guys! Where can I find .cad files for injection molds?

Best videos explaining Open Source: Go!

@davehakkens I have been thinking of ideas now for a while. When I get a chance I will message you a few. Mostly around how tokens could be distributed as rewards to people who collect plastic for recycling and people who purchase recycled products. Also how a possible ICO would raise funds to take a business to the next level if wanting to go down that path. Firstly though your on the wrong Blockchain. ETH has heavy gas fees and the network takes a lot of power/electricity to run it. You want to be on a blockchain with much smaller transaction fees and lower world wide electricity cost. Something like the Binance blockchain or Tron Blockchain. I think this would be more looking to the future and more environmentally conscious. Both networks are easy create tokens and run Dapps on. If not more easy then Eth.

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HELLOoooooooooo im starting in this precious plastic

Hi Is KC from Tanzania I want to know how to start the of recycling plastics bussiness

KC

Hi Is KC from Tanzania I want to know how to start the of recycling plastics bussiness

have a look at the pinned messages

Hello! I’m an undergrad student from Seattle, WA, USA. I’m currently enrolled in a Social Enterprise course in which my group and I are developing a theoretical business. We have decided to focus on developing plastic waste infrastructure on the island of Lombok, Indonesia utilizing some of the plastic shredding machines from Precious Plastics; currently, we are trying to figure out what the average costs of upkeep and maintenance for these machines. We would appreciate any feedback, no matter where you are in the world. Thank you so much!

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hello guys it's a pleasure to join you

Hello guys, je suis en train de réaliser mon crowdfunding, i réalise a crowdfunding in some days.. because indirectly i want to promote precious plastic on my City... Can i share the link here please, i'm Alone !?

Olli

Hey! Are there any existing efforts of building hydroponic or aquaponic gardening towers from recycled plastics? I am from Africa were malnutrition and plastic pollution are some major factors. We have (in some areas) little water, but a lot of sun for solar energy, which is why easy DIY hydroponic or aquaponic gardening methods seem very applicable to me. In case a system already exists, could someone please kindly refer me? In case it is yet to be developed, would there be someone interested in joining my quest? I recon this would perhaps also be useful for other lesser developed countries around the globe. If it could then be combined with the project ‘plastic banks’ the environment could be cleaned, less plastic waste could be taken downstream into the ocean, and hungry children could be feed. If someone is interested in the specifics of my intention, please let me know. I will also happy to provide how I intend to fund the project. Thanks in advance!

Hello @Olli I think this idea is really interesting and I actually came here looking for the same type of input. Please let me know what did you find out.

Olli

Hey! Are there any existing efforts of building hydroponic or aquaponic gardening towers from recycled plastics? I am from Africa were malnutrition and plastic pollution are some major factors. We have (in some areas) little water, but a lot of sun for solar energy, which is why easy DIY hydroponic or aquaponic gardening methods seem very applicable to me. In case a system already exists, could someone please kindly refer me? In case it is yet to be developed, would there be someone interested in joining my quest? I recon this would perhaps also be useful for other lesser developed countries around the globe. If it could then be combined with the project ‘plastic banks’ the environment could be cleaned, less plastic waste could be taken downstream into the ocean, and hungry children could be feed. If someone is interested in the specifics of my intention, please let me know. I will also happy to provide how I intend to fund the project. Thanks in advance!

Hi Olli, I have run Aquaponic systems in the past. If this is something that is still of interest to you please let me know what you were thinking about.

Hey community, if you could recycled facemasks (as we might very well be

) what would you make?

Are they a single plastic, or a plastic blend (also any cellulose fibers in there?)

Re micro plastic. I would suggest to.minimize it by washing before shredding, drying and shredding, with a dust collector and filter. We use 60 micron bags. Finding a lot of dust gets made and using the vacuum collection has also kept us from breathing it in.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200827-face-mask-recycling-french-firm-finds-way-to-re-use-covid-waste

Face mask recycling: French firm finds way to re-use Covid waste

Face masks have become a key tool in the fight against the Covid-19 pandemic but they are also proving a major new source of pollution, with used masks seen littering streets, countryside and waterwa…

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hello guys

2:40 PM

i want make or buy this

2:40 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j85TPjYRezI&list=RDCMUCqA-SppbeUi5ou0isB27mgg&index=11

Precious Plastic - 3D printer Filament maker

2:40 PM

who can help me?

паки

Есть кто говорит на русском?

я говорю

@Saqo Jan It's a bit disorderly, but there is information and projects on making filament for FDM 3D Printers here: Немного беспорядочно, но здесь есть информация и проекты по изготовлению филамента для 3D-принтеров FDM: (google translate на этом последнем бите, мне нравится позволять людям использовать не английский язык (потому что я носитель английского языка, но плохо учу языки, поэтому не хочу, чтобы это было требованием для других, чтобы участвовать lol)

12:17 AM

Sidenote do we have "Translator" roles yet?

12:17 AM

I think that may be a neat thing to add in

Hey! i'm trying to save profile information in the PP platform and I cant. Anybody knows why?

what is AOC token?

speed2SP

Hello guys, je suis en train de réaliser mon crowdfunding, i réalise a crowdfunding in some days.. because indirectly i want to promote precious plastic on my City... Can i share the link here please, i'm Alone !?

Salut, es tu auusi sur le discord francophone ? Si non, c'est par ici ! https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn

Invite to join a server

accueil

Eric Lotze

@Saqo Jan It's a bit disorderly, but there is information and projects on making filament for FDM 3D Printers here: Немного беспорядочно, но здесь есть информация и проекты по изготовлению филамента для 3D-принтеров FDM: (google translate на этом последнем бите, мне нравится позволять людям использовать не английский язык (потому что я носитель английского языка, но плохо учу языки, поэтому не хочу, чтобы это было требованием для других, чтобы участвовать lol)

hello my friend, here where? what do you mean?

8:36 PM

where is the link?

I must be getting lost between here and #archived-3d-printing , but here is the link: https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3HhdGsoyUk

i need all schematics and building process, because im not a good engineer

I am not the person who did the build, so i'll send some contact info the the "proper person" in a direct message to you

9:14 PM

I just sent you some contact information in a DM

9:14 PM

Also have you installed "FreeCAD" ?

9:15 PM

With that you should be able to look the file over, and i'm looking for what i can find on the website myself right now

@Saqo Jan Did you get my Direct Message ?

I don't think we have timezone roles here, so i don't know what time it is where you are, i'm going offline for a bit, should checkback in a few hours

(Anywho i'm logging off for the day. I should be back on in ~6-12 hrs) Ping me, and hopefully we can end the "phone tag" lol

Hi everybody! I'm Maria from Mexico I'd like to know where I can find files of CAD for building a extrusion machine

5:20 PM

help me please!

Eric Lotze

@Saqo Jan Did you get my Direct Message ?

yes i got, thank you so much

Hi everyone I have just joined the community I am really excited about PP and would love to bring it my local area Accrington England UK. I work for an environmental charity and they are behind the idea of setting up a local PP. To do this I really need the communites help I have some many questions regarding getting funding what kind of premises would be best etc any hell you all can offer will be greatly appreciated love from England

Lups

Hi everybody! I'm Maria from Mexico I'd like to know where I can find files of CAD for building a extrusion machine

have a look at the pinned messages

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Hi!

7:24 PM

Hope you´re all doing great with plastic

7:26 PM

Maybe some of you can help me with this... I want to know if the Shredder Pro can easily shred PET

Hi everyone! Wow so I am new to precious plastics, I did an artist residency this past month with a makerspace in aruba where I learned to shred and melt PET, and the carve it up with a shapeoko. Hi community. I need you for my next steps! Where are the plastic nerds with makerspaces, anyone want to rock some PET recycling, a shredder a toaster oven and there we go! I will be in Michigan and Las Vegas in the next few months anyone around.

4:24 AM

How you made the blocks

4:24 AM

Shown above can you send me video of manufacturing tecnique

Which machine you used?

Hi everyone, I'm a masters student in the UK working on a project to try and make mould-making more accessible for the PP community, helping people can make really exciting products from recycled plastic. It would help me out a lot if you could fill in my quick survey (less than 5 mins) so I can better understand the community's needs. I'm interested in answers from anybody in the communtiy, doesn't matter if you have any PP machines or not. Link here: https://forms.gle/MqDTgF7j8Tjrfo6c7. Thank you in advance!

3:37 PM

A quick teaser, this is a mould for a pair of spinning-top toys which I made as part of my experiments

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Max

Hi everyone, I'm a masters student in the UK working on a project to try and make mould-making more accessible for the PP community, helping people can make really exciting products from recycled plastic. It would help me out a lot if you could fill in my quick survey (less than 5 mins) so I can better understand the community's needs. I'm interested in answers from anybody in the communtiy, doesn't matter if you have any PP machines or not. Link here: https://forms.gle/MqDTgF7j8Tjrfo6c7. Thank you in advance!

Hi Max. cool useful project! We are currently developing a new research module, to document a process. (seems perfect for a project like yours) We could use a few testcases. Want to try, or already to busy? (edited)

Hi Dave, thanks a lot! Yeah I'd be happy to give it a go, maybe send me a DM or email (my address is on the form) with some more details?

@Max.M I want to subscribe to your development. How may I?

There's an option to leave an email address at the end of the survey form, I'll send a couple of updates throughout the project to anyone who's interested, and will definitely be sharing full details once the project is complete this summer!

Dear Precious Plastic people, My name is Vanja, and among many other things, I am a recent master’s degree graduate of Integrated Product Design at Politecnico di Milano now living in Amsterdam. I am looking for work in a healthy, positive environment, one whose mission I believe in, and would be proud to contribute for. Having said that, I was wondering if any of you could help me with a few names of design studios/companies that you know are dealing with plastic “waste” or waste in general? The ones I’m familiar with are vanPlestik, Stonecycling, Pretty Plastic, unfortunately none are looking for full time designers at the moment, only interns. Thank you in advance ❤️

Hey guys ive put together an idea which might turn the tide on waste. Vanja ill msg you later after ive spoken to my local Green candidate if my idea is implimented here in scotland it could be an idea to share with your green eco friendly polititians to have similar implemented near you (the aim i have is local retainment of waste locally, zero waste to landfill and maximising business opertunity via ideas like that of precious plastic )

Is coming to life...

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Helo

9:57 AM

9:58 AM

I like it!

I just "love" (sarcastic) some of the messages that come in to my FB Precious Plastic page. Yesterday i was castigated for offering someone a v3 shredder with 3hp motor and not giving him a free upgrade to a 5hp gear motor. (edited)

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10:46 PM

This morning I was roundly criticised for my plastic shredder being unable to process 10 inch logs into sawdust. (At 2am) (edited)

10:48 PM

Laat week it was a romance scammer making requests for money and sending sexual messages to my auto reply bot.

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@Butte (PP Philippines) glad to hear I'm not the only one, I didn't expect to come across so many negative people in this journey. However keep doing what your doing Butte - you are an inspiration to me personally and we just need to push through the crazy and look for the good in this world.

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hi all

5:07 PM

any one from the US here?

there are region based groups, e.g. #🍔north-america see on the left.

thanks just saw it

Random Thought: It's a bit goofy/impractical, but i see so many of those tiles/coasters i can almost imagine them being a currency!

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Rai

PVC has chlorine, and PET requires dehydration

Hi Katla - I'm new to Precious Plastics and also to Discord actually so I'm impressed that I actually found this specific comment regarding PET. I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction for more information on the dehydration process? Or has anyone had success in using PET for the injection machine efficiently? (edited)

i ve read in several references that you need to leave PET at constant temperature, around 50 Celcious for something like 8 hours, in order for it to dehydrate efficiently. there is also specific dehydration equipment sold by companies, such as this thing https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F3dprint.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F05%2Ftwo-25.png&f=1&nofb=1

Hello I'm a new member my name is Silvan and I live in Eindhoven in the Netherlands. I started building the shredder years ago but I've never finished it because I need someone with knowledge about electronics. Hopefully I can pursue the machinebuilding to make a better world

4:39 PM

I have one question though, does anyone know someone who can help me make a mold and also produce a product out of that mold? I need a 50 by 50 centimers 3D floor plan

I know mold design is a crazy skill (granted it depends on the complexity of the part)

8:43 PM

I don't know if we have any experts like that here (i am not myself), but i would say that's the biggest issue

8:44 PM

Machining the mold (assuming it is a two-part mold and/or not having too much complex geometry) is the easy part (in my armchair opinion)

8:44 PM

What were you thinking on making with the mold @Shiruvan ?

I don't know if they are on this disord yett, but their work is amazing:

2:16 AM

Trash Panda Disc Golf

I Made a Disc From Trash I Picked Up on the Disc Golf Course

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I should be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Hey Everyone, I'm planning to build my own plastic Shredder machine with help of my friends. Work has already started.

2:52 PM

Just a quick question ---> Which material should i choose to make the Shredder Blade? I have already design the 3 edge cutting shredder blade

Thanks for your reaction @Eric Lotze It is going to be an object where blind people can feel the floor plan of the museum I am working with.

2:54 PM

And it need to be coated eventually so it's easy to clean and that it'll hold its robustness. 3D printed is a hassle as since you need to sand it

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Just a quick question ---> Which material should i choose to make the Shredder Blade? I have already design the 3 edge cutting shredder blade

I think everything should be in the blueprint of the shredder. I think it was stainless steel

Shiruvan

I think everything should be in the blueprint of the shredder. I think it was stainless steel

Can you share the pdf if possible............

Everything tere is to know about the machines it on the PP website : https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy

https://www.banggood.com/12Pcs-Auto-Drip-Irrigation-Watering-System-Adjustable-Watering-Spike-Garden-Plants-Flower-Watering-Kits-Automatic-Waterer-Tools-p-1823491.html?utm_design=18&cur_warehouse=CN&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=Mail_home24_email&utm_campaign=newsletteremarsys&utm_content=linux&sc_src=email_4773176&sc_eh=8cc076c161dfbf5e1&sc_llid=32347&sc_lid=202835998&sc_uid=rkIdm82Ons

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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3:01 PM

And there is a kit at the end that contains all the documents. You should find what you're looking for in there

Thanks a lot

3:06 PM

Is there any advantage/disadvantage of building 3 edge cutting blade as compared to 2 edge cutting blade?

I would say the shredding time might be shorter, but you need yo watch the rotation speed of the motor, to let the blades bite the plastic

3:09 PM

And of course, the cost and the time to produce each blade will increase

tsiour_p

I would say the shredding time might be shorter, but you need yo watch the rotation speed of the motor, to let the blades bite the plastic

yeah and also will it affect the size to the shredded particle [output] in one way or other. Considering the fact that i will be using normal plastic water bottle.

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yeah and also will it affect the size to the shredded particle [output] in one way or other. Considering the fact that i will be using normal plastic water bottle.

How so ? To my mind, it's mostly the mesh that modifies the flakes size

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yeah and also will it affect the size to the shredded particle [output] in one way or other. Considering the fact that i will be using normal plastic water bottle.

It was the question, sorry i forgot to use the '?' symbol

@Shiruvan so kind of like that “textured pavement” on ramps/crosswalks?

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Is coming to life...

hello, can you make me videos? i want like you, make filament creating machine

Shiruvan

Thanks for your reaction @Eric Lotze It is going to be an object where blind people can feel the floor plan of the museum I am working with.

Oh that is super cool!!! Accessibility is super important!

Hi everyone. I'm just starting out. Is the GitHub page under maintenance? I can't seem to download the starter kits.

I am uncertain on that, does anyone know?

12:19 AM

Also, i found this neat product that could maybe be made in three parts: (edited)

12:19 AM

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12:21 AM

You have the "funnel" piece, them the "t fitting" then the screw

12:21 AM

Seems like a neat product, and it uses recycled disposable water bottles

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I should be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Hey everyone! I'm wondering if anyone has pieces of advice regarding the machining of the molds (for the BioPress in that case). It ends up being the most expensive part of the build when ordered from a machining shop (1000€ on 3DHubs for the Bowl mold); and the people at the local fablab are reluctant using their CNC on aluminium.. How have you dealed with this aspect ??

You could maybe make a cast mold

7:05 PM

small scale metal casting is do-able

7:06 PM

"greensand casting" "lost pla casting" and "investment casting / plaster molds" could all be done from a 3d printed form (or milled MDF probably?)

7:06 PM

I'm not the expert though, so double check that i guess

7:06 PM

may be issues with precision?

LouisFF

Hey everyone! I'm wondering if anyone has pieces of advice regarding the machining of the molds (for the BioPress in that case). It ends up being the most expensive part of the build when ordered from a machining shop (1000€ on 3DHubs for the Bowl mold); and the people at the local fablab are reluctant using their CNC on aluminium.. How have you dealed with this aspect ??

what mold do you need because for my school i have access to a cnc mill (haas mini mill) and could make it for you for cheap if my teacher doesn't mind and it isn't to hard of a mold

@Eric Lotze Hi. I am Koumandjan Traoré, Guinean by nationality. I am an environmental entrepreneur and I want to forge a partnership with you, particularly on the recycling of plastic waste into bricks. In my country, more than 482,000 tons of plastic waste are produced per year and I would like you to be our technical partner in the execution of a recycling project. receive my sincere greetings.

@Koumandjan Traoré I wouldn't consider myself an expert on that process, however i can help find you someone who is

2:02 AM

@greenbrick @Frederik C (ZA) @Butte (PP Philippines) seem to be the people who have posted the most on this subject (from a quick search)? Can any of you offer advice? (edited)

https://discord.gg/8YVcxAuF

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I should be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Eric Lotze

You could maybe make a cast mold

That remains an option indeed ! I still feel it is crazy that metal machining is so expensive, when the base material is actually quite easy to find (there are quite some metal scrappers selling usable blocks or sheets where I live), so it's a matter of finding a CNC that people are willing to use on aluminium...

@Eric Lotze @Koumandjan Traoré Re: Bricks Lots of people ask about it. My answer is always the same. It depends what your target market is. If the goal is construction, then you'll either be selling to the "informal" market or to the commercial market. Plastic is a "hard sell" to the commercial market, for obvious reasons. Africa has a huge potential "informal" market, (meaning the slums and shanty towns outside most major cities) but the potential of the market depends on if there are any building regulations in terms of load capacity and fire retardants. Anyone familiar with shanty towns, knows how quickly house fires spread through them, often destroying entire neighbourhoods. Quality regulations in the formal sector regarding fire retardation and load-bearing goes without saying.

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HELLO EVERYBODY, IM FROM MEXICO AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW, WHERE CAN I BUY A SCREW?

https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/?subcats=Y&pcode_from_q=Y&pshort=Y&pfull=Y&pname=Y&pkeywords=Y&search_performed=Y&q=extrusion+screw&dispatch=products.search

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@Lups

Palabras clave para buscar: "extrusion screw" — "tornillo de extrusión"

Welp, dont know where to post this, but it's a real doozy when it's John Oliver himself covering about the dark nuances on plastics and what's going down. Buckle up fellas, dark humor ahead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fiu9GSOmt8E

Plastics: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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Hello everyone! Can't find the #Mandin skateboard deck How-to, in the how-tos section on PP website, does anyone has the link? I'm looking for investing in a board mould...

Does anyone know how much plastic it takes to make a 2x4x12 or so from the extrusion?

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Best-Quality-Compact-Plastic-Shredder-Injection_1600174294448.html?spm=a2700.themePage.5238101001179.10.6843233d577DG1

Best Quality Compact Plastic Shredder Injection Machine Plastic Cru...

Best Quality Compact Plastic Shredder Injection Machine Plastic Crusher Pp Waste Plastic Crusher Machine - Buy Waste Plastic Crusher Machine,Plastic Crusher Gls-250,Compact Plastic Shredder Product on Alibaba.com

5:03 PM

has anyone ever just bought one of these instead of making one

Yes, we got a granulator set up at a filament comlany that they use to shred their waste filament. It works great for that but not sure how it would work for other shapes of plastic

Is there a dedicated discord or channel somewhere for Project Kamp?

I'd love to get involved with that project, so if any of you folks are on here...

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Good morning, I would like to know if someone has made a 3d design of the nozzle to be able to print it in a resistant material and attach the molds that I already have.

Hello! I just hoped on the discord server, and i'm so hyped about communities like this existing.

5:23 PM

Also i'm 25 yo, i live in Spain and i would love to get in contact with anyone near who is interested in all this stuff.

DrizzyKing

Does anyone know how much plastic it takes to make a 2x4x12 or so from the extrusion?

i'am assuming u mean metric. so 2x4x14=112 cm3 the weight of plasitc depends on what plastic but its around 0.9g/cm3 so 112x0.9=100.8 g of plastic

I do wish john oliver covered "thermal recycling" and proper disposal not just like "open pit burning", because if plotted out right there can be (short of co2 emissions) somewhat emission free disposal methods (that can also sometimes recover chemicals you can use to make new plastic)

8:41 PM

Also i don't know if they mean non-recyclable by "economically feasible" or physically possible

8:41 PM

as that gets messy, the moment you have a carbon tax, or realize the collective cost of fossil fuels much more stuff becomes "feasible"

wd-40-enjoyer

i'am assuming u mean metric. so 2x4x14=112 cm3 the weight of plasitc depends on what plastic but its around 0.9g/cm3 so 112x0.9=100.8 g of plastic

Thank you

Hey All, there is a new channel focused on the development of washing plastic. Any input from you all would be amazing

#archived-washing

I haven't done a how to since my 1st small sheet machine, time for a new one I think, is there anything that would help the community?

hello everyone, i have project about the sheetpress machine for university and i am a electrical engineer i have to manage the control box and i was wondering if there is a way to use the components of the electronic box and represent them in multism

Hi guys! I'm new here and I was looking for blueprints of shredder pro, someone can help me ?

there you go

4:30 PM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredderpro

: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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Hi guys, passing by here just to send a hello from Brazil.

Thanks, but i couldn't find

#phonebloks-chat

Hi there, I just started on the Precious Plastic journey. I don't have access to Autocad, are there PDF versions of the Shredder Machine? I don't know who I can talk about this. But I am so passionate abkut making a change in my community through recycling plastics

@Mekara You can find all the blueprints in pdf in the download kit.

3:17 PM

For the small shredder go here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/shredder-21

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto do you have the blueprints of shredder pro?

It´s the best if you download the hole kit: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

TKS!

@Luiz Henrique

TKS!

This is brilliant thank you. Could u also send the link for the other 3 machines. Hopefully, it all works out.

Mekara

This is brilliant thank you. Could u also send the link for the other 3 machines. Hopefully, it all works out.

Everything here

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Thank you so so much. This is exciting. I have been going through the website and i love Precious Plastic. Noticed its mostly soft plastics. Wonder if hard plastics can be used as well? I know the physics may be different though

@Mekara PS is hard and good to recycle

Aha, great stuff. Thank you so much. I hope to soon post some pictures of it made

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Happy recycling @Mekara

I just read an email about Monthly news #50. So looking forward for Dave to show up, say "April fools" and disconnect...

Guys I hear here in some video of Precious Plastic about an initiative like an University of recycling. Can you point to me this?

Hey guys nice to meet everyone, just joined the group

I was wondering if anyone has a cheat sheet or resource for the properties and real world applications (pre-recycling life) for different types of plastics -PE (HDPE, LDPE, LLDPE) -PP -PVC -PET ...and so on This will really help my companies sustainability department as we are developing video content and need a resource we can refer to rather than making our own from scratch which will be a project in and of itself

hey, im new here and im working on a video exploring what happened to phonebloks

7:16 PM

and i was wondering if anyone who was part of that project would be willing to do an interview involving that (edited)

Hello Everyone!

9:07 PM

I've just discovered the project, and I'm very excited about it, as it sort of matches where I'm at in my life at the moment. Disgusted by "normal" life, looking for "what next". Interested in van life, but wanting to join a bigger project where many minds are working together at making this whole mess a better place. The Project Kamp seems very close to what I could dream about. I'm currently living in British Columbia, Canada (Pacific Coast) and considering moving out to a piece of land on Vancouver Island.

I'm raising $1,000.00 until 04/25/2021 for help with the environment. Help now: https://paypal.me/pools/c/8y43iecjfl. If you have $1 and a PayPal account you could help save the world...earth_americas

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Hello everyone,am called Bukenya Sadam from Uganda Africa working with an NGO called Clear Wall of Dreams as the team leader of the group am so glad finding such friends like you people because we like on the same page so what clear wall of dreams do is basically plastic management for the past two years we have been constructing toilets using plastic bottles packed with polythene bags that are being used already so clear wall of dreams use the as bricks this year we trying to make seats out of plastic bottles still packed with polythene bags.2 we are looking forard how we can make pavers out of plastic and bricks aswell so everyone willing to join us you are most welcome. (edited)

Hi Samuel mayowa AYANDA from nigeria

Hi everyone! Jeremy here. I’m from NYC. Just subscribed to the YouTube pages and really enjoying getting caught up on all the projects.

Hi Everybody, I'm Mark. I'm a mechanical engineer by study and work as a quality, environment, health and safety manager for an industrial company, working on water-based products (pumps, filters, etc.). One of our strong-points is fish-friendly and high efficient (lower energy use) products. I Just ran into One Army and Project Kamp. Although I am by far not a green tree-hugging vegan, I'm not "kill the planet evil" either

I am very interested in how we can all contribute in our own way, shape or form. So hopefully during my following of all that goes on, I'll find opportunities to help in some way with my knowledge and expertise, while at the same time learning from others here a other way of looking at the world, the worlds problems and most importantly, the world's solutions.

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basil

hello everyone, i have project about the sheetpress machine for university and i am a electrical engineer i have to manage the control box and i was wondering if there is a way to use the components of the electronic box and represent them in multism

That would be really helpful. We also have an updated design - if you send me a DM, maybe we can work together to make this happen!

GregR

Hi guys, i just hered about precious plastic, i live in panama and didn't see anyone doing anything on the map nor on the chat. What would be a good way for me to start?

Hi Greg! I'm in Panama too and wanted to know if you were able to start something relate to Precious Plastic? Saludos

Reciclo tito

Hello everyone. Am Ivan from Panama, am committed to start a Precious Plastic in my country as there isn’t any yet. I don’t know where to start exactly, have seen the web site starting kits etc but I like don’t know witch is the first step so i joint the chat for guidelines

Hola! buenisimo saber que estes con la idea de iniciar un workshop en Panama! Queria saber si pudiste crear una de las maquinas? A mi se me coplica obener algunas piezas...Saludos

does anyone know what is the tile provider for https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

4:44 AM

it is openstretmap's mapnik?

4:45 AM

the copyright attribution just says it's using leaflet and osm, so I figure the provider must be one of OSM's

Oi amigos, vocês sabem me responder qual é o estilo do mapa que estão usando no https://community.preciousplastic.com/map?

https://cta.if.ufrgs.br/ https://Lablivre.pesquisa.ufabc.edu.br/ https://github.com/uncreatednet/wikilab-ufabc https://regosh.libres.cc/

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

iggy

it is openstretmap's mapnik?

or is it hikebike?

from the source code I could only find the OSM standard tile provided

5:05 AM

but the map surely doesn't look like it's the OSM STP

5:06 AM

either there's more tile layers or it's not OSM STP

Ricupero

Guys I hear here in some video of Precious Plastic about an initiative like an University of recycling. Can you point to me this?

Me too

ViewtifulJoe

Hey guys nice to meet everyone, just joined the group

I was wondering if anyone has a cheat sheet or resource for the properties and real world applications (pre-recycling life) for different types of plastics -PE (HDPE, LDPE, LLDPE) -PP -PVC -PET ...and so on This will really help my companies sustainability department as we are developing video content and need a resource we can refer to rather than making our own from scratch which will be a project in and of itself

Write to onearmy

Cristthian

Oi amigos, vocês sabem me responder qual é o estilo do mapa que estão usando no https://community.preciousplastic.com/map?

Hi guys, my name is Cristthian, I'm Brazilian and developer of free and open source technologies. I am part of the CTA, Lablivre, WikiLab and reGOSH groups, we are looking to install a map similar to that of onearmy on our servers in the Latin American Network of Free Technologies

uncreatednet/wikilab-ufabc

Um laboratório experimental baseado no wikihouse. Contribute to uncreatednet/wikilab-ufabc development by creating an account on GitHub.

Cristthian Marafigo Arpino

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Cristthian

Hi guys, my name is Cristthian, I'm Brazilian and developer of free and open source technologies. I am part of the CTA, Lablivre, WikiLab and reGOSH groups, we are looking to install a map similar to that of onearmy on our servers in the Latin American Network of Free Technologies

https://cta.if.ufrgs.br/ https://Lablivre.pesquisa.ufabc.edu.br/ https://github.com/uncreatednet/wikilab-ufabc https://regosh.libres.cc/

Hi Cristthian, maybe Mattia could give you a hint!

Hi, am a young architect from Argentina. If there is something with i can help mostly with the project kamp, i would be charmed

Hi everyone

8:05 PM

I am currently finishing legally establishing a company (www.ionfyx.com) of smart fabrics with nanoparticles that they emit far infrared light and create the right environment for the regeneration of almost all injuries or diseases, with this fabric I manufacture patches that stick to clothing and eliminate pain and inflammation immediately, I have received some institucional award and the truth is that the customers are very happy and its been selling well for the last 4 years without marketing, my products have no planned obsolescence and prevent people from taking opiates or anti-inflammatories. In the future I would like to do it Open Source. To get to this I set up my own laboratory 5 years ago, where I carried out many successful experiments, including many nanoparticles, I financed this laboratory after the sale of my ferrocement sailboat, which I myself restored without money in the middle of the sea in Mallorca. To make it possible i squated a house of a foreign resident who died some time ago, first I connected the electricity, then we mounted a pump in a well and when I wanted to find out I had created a community of young people who needed a space to restore and repair their boats, the house was called " the hidden"("la escondida"). The truth was that it was a wonderful time ... Before that I was living in Factor E Farm, the Open Source Ecology farm (https://www.opensourceecology.org) although you will not find information about me there. In this project learnt many things. At OSE I designed and manufactured a CNC cutting table with Chris Deaangelis and Brianna Kufa, I really enjoyed it despite the general disappointment. In OSE is where I had my first contact with the "magnetic motors" and other interesting experiences ... Before that I was working as a welder / fabricator, I had 11 certifications in welding and a multitude of courses and jobs.

8:05 PM

I here to help

8:07 PM

I'm based In the South of Spain

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spiros nik

Hi Cristthian, maybe Mattia could give you a hint!

Yeah, thank's brow

anybody in livingroom now, I wanna do similar Kamp at Yucatan, Mexico.

Hey All, found this discord through precious plastics and happy to be here. I hope to eventually have a project started and have more people in my local community do something beneficial for others

Joel Henderson Green Mentor

Hi everyone I have just joined the community I am really excited about PP and would love to bring it my local area Accrington England UK. I work for an environmental charity and they are behind the idea of setting up a local PP. To do this I really need the communites help I have some many questions regarding getting funding what kind of premises would be best etc any hell you all can offer will be greatly appreciated love from England

I have a similar idea, of not the same for my local area. I’m based in London with NO clue on how to get started, if I manage to get information or get a level up I’ll let you know

can i know the other ingridients for making edible bowl

Melanie

Forgive me for wading into this conversation and coming in at a tangent.. I have started setting up the first “Hub” schools in the UK. The schools that are going to be Hub Schools with their very own Precious Plastic Outlets will be based all over the UK to begin with. We have 329,000 eduCCate Global Schools in 40 plus countries. I want to get each and every one of them to set up a Precious Plastic Outlet in their community. These Hub Schools will need advice, guidance, support. What would you all suggest is the best way for us to go about doing this?

This sounds promising, how can I get involved?

Hello everyone! I have a company of upcycling textiles. Today someone asked to make fanny packs, and for that we thought, hold on, we need recycled plastic buckles, with the nice style of precious plastic. But I could not find it on the internet straight away. Does someone make buckles, or knows where I could find them? Kind regards, Doris

@Doris Never saw them in the PP-universe, but it´s a nice idea!

Hello people, my name is Joshua and I live in Scranton, Pennsylvania, USA.

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hello to all the community of Djibouti located in the horn of africa. I love the will that drives you and I want to be part of your vast network. As far as I'm concerned, I'm a web developer nothing to do with what's going on here I think hahaha but here I am and I hope it will be a plus in the community.

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sarahfauzanaa

can i know the other ingridients for making edible bowl

you should check out #archived-beyond-plastic and ask there

Doris

Hello everyone! I have a company of upcycling textiles. Today someone asked to make fanny packs, and for that we thought, hold on, we need recycled plastic buckles, with the nice style of precious plastic. But I could not find it on the internet straight away. Does someone make buckles, or knows where I could find them? Kind regards, Doris

Maybe you could start with checking if there are any work-spaces near you (through the map and specifically injection work spaces) and work with them on creating a mold

jawshhwa

Hello people, my name is Joshua and I live in Scranton, Pennsylvania, USA.

hahaahah

sarahfauzanaa

can i know the other ingridients for making edible bowl

starch

Here is a Good Primer/Elevator Pitch on Right to Repair (As well as Ballot Initiative) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWIF3ZRpf0I

Louis Rossmann

I'm crowdfunding a direct ballot initiative to bypass lobbyists/pol...

Hello, im want to change the world!!! I'm this craziest dude ever.. ( I mean a idiot ), have too many ideas for the millennium we live on

.. I would love to have 5 min of this guy time to blow is mind with ideas. Im a hardcore geek with too much time, is anyway I can talk with someone?

who's the guy in the videos? let's talk for 5 min

Hi

2:03 PM

i'm looking for the project kamp channel

2:03 PM

kinda new to discord

2:03 PM

oh, found it 0:D

HotNFluffy

oh, found it 0:D

where tho or is it only available to higher patreons?

5:44 PM

oh i see

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5:44 PM

u gotta click on the symbols in #🖐start-here

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does anybody know anything about using gypseous molds in plastic recycling? Will it last temperature? I found a lot of them in abandoned factory, and maybe it is possible to use them again?

6:57 PM

I am pretty sure they were used in ceramics

Those are essentially plaster right?

9:54 PM

I think they work (and can even be used for metal) (if i am correct, i'd love input from others as well, factchecking and expertise and all that) (edited)

Hi Precious Plastic Community! I hope my message finds you well. My name is Lisa I am Swiss designer currently living in Madagascar. The problem of plastic waste is huge here so I'm trying to start a Precious Plastic Workshop. Although here most of the plastic that is thrown away is soft plastic, mainly from food packagings and I was wondering if you had find a solution for recycling them. I guess they don't work in the shredding machine? Thank you so much for your feed back.

ALRIGHTY, i'm logging off for the day. I should be back on in ~6-12 hrs

Hello, really love the projects you guys are doing. Been following precious plastics for some years now.

Hi I just signed up as I have been a follower of you YouTube channels for a while and wanted to say that I love what is being done and is the only way I can see to make a difference to one of the world's biggest problems. So had a idea for what to make and sell and just wanted to put it out there and that is hydroponics kit.

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Is there also a one army subreddit?

Man, I’m just thinking how funny it was when someone left the server over the name change to “one army”

name scheme isn't 100% my cup of tea, but definetly is goofy to storm out pouting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOIEVG9A8eg

https://youtu.be/lfRZ8X228m8?t=310

Monthly News #50 LIVE

10:35 PM

just watching that now

10:35 PM

I love the methods ~8:00

10:36 PM

We should look into rotational molding more in my opinion

10:36 PM

Also that "caramel apple" method is so goofy lol

10:36 PM

but the direct usage of charcoal/biomass may be of use for some

Maybe you could use solar heating

10:37 PM

For like the sheet press

Roto-molding would be amazing for a Canoe, or maybe barrels

The fixing Fashion bit at ~42:00 is neat!

10:58 PM

Will it involve Open Source Sewing Machines?

There are plenty of sewing machines out there, buying second hand might be a better option then building one, especially if you're new to sewing. It can be hard to learn and if you put so much effort into building it might be hard to put in the work to learn. Exploring your options first might be better.

definetly agree on buying used

12:10 AM

Also what do you think of an open source embroidery machine add on, essentially bring your own sewing machine, and the hoop/mechanism is added on (edited)

Basically if you take the foot of the sewing machine you can sew in whatever way you want you don't really need a hoop and also I think the fabric needs to lay down flat on the body.

12:13 AM

Sorry if that's confusing haha do you know what the foot of the sewing machine is? I can explain more

Hey all, I have a number of machines including shredder and extrusion pro but I am trying to see if anyone has designed a washing system for plastics. I’ve seen the washing machine version but I’m thinking more of a sink float tank or warm water cleaning system. Has anyone seen anything

The team actually experimented quite a bit with a washing machine and posted a video on the One Army youtube channel, it's definitely still in early stages but let me locate the link for you

Thanks Liri. It’s the one area we struggle with. Cleaning the plastics before having flake that we are happy to then add to extrusion

12:16 AM

Also Liri, I have over 100 texi machines including overlockers and straight stitch machines as I own a clothing company. We make clothing from recycled plastic (RPET) Reborn Merchandise. We often have older machines in the UK

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@zak_jsn I started the link at the place where the washing part starts

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12:19 AM

MN #44 - Skateboards from recycled plastic and Project Kamp academy

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zak_jsn

Thanks Liri. It’s the one area we struggle with. Cleaning the plastics before having flake that we are happy to then add to extrusion

Yeah that's understandable I think many people struggle with this!

Liri (They/He)

@zak_jsn I started the link at the place where the washing part starts

Thank you

zak_jsn

Also Liri, I have over 100 texi machines including overlockers and straight stitch machines as I own a clothing company. We make clothing from recycled plastic (RPET) Reborn Merchandise. We often have older machines in the UK

That is so cool!! I would love to see some pictures!!! Maybe in #archived-showcase or you can PM me! Sergers/overlockers are so fun haha (edited)

zak_jsn

Thank you

yeah of course!

I’ll PM you in the morning with some info. Always happy to help. Need to community here so I’ll do my part

Actually this like designer you could call her that I enjoy following uses overlockers and thrown away knits to put together super cool pieces!

zak_jsn

I’ll PM you in the morning with some info. Always happy to help. Need to community here so I’ll do my part

Thank you!!

@Eric Lotze I'd love to talk more about Fixing Fashion and stuff like that whenever, especially when it comes out and we know more! I'm personally super excited for this project as I was previously already interested in fixing the fashion industry and more sustainable options etc.

My Friends is lovely project my name is i am portuguese and live in Uk. Anyrhing you need i available i speek and writen portuguesa if you have problems i help you. My contact is 07949534807 uk 939698077 Portugal good luck my freind

9:23 PM

Nuno my email is n.33filipe@hotmail.com and filipenuno6713@gmail.com

9:28 PM

My project diy work materials i used old paletes and building goods ,furnitures

Hi OneArmy

1:07 AM

love your Projects and support you from Berlin

1:07 AM

Where exactly are you in Portugal?

Hello from Brazil! I believe that what you are doing is amazing and I want to get involved. Want to get my hands dirty. :D I can help with Designing, Building, Making and Translating (Portuguese, English, Spanish and a little bit of French). (edited)

Greetings from Malaysia. ~~Where is the map of countries involved with One Army? Sorry i am still looking for it. Want to find if your office is in my country~~ Edit: i'm in Kuching, Sarawak and ready to assist you set up here. RN, i can only give my best in energy,time and effort. Keen to have PP setup in my region. Traveling to west Malaysia is not an option for me. Let's discuss how to make this happen where i can help make the impact from my location (edited)

Hey everyone! This year the youth of Heirs To Our Oceans have planned and organized a very special event called "Operation Global Sweep” we hope many of you’ll join us for and share with your networks to reach far and wide in tackling plastic pollution! Operation Global Sweep is going to be an international sweep and brand audit, completed in collaboration with orgs around the world, where youth and adult “Agents” will get outside and work individually or together in teams while following COVID protocols, to conduct a global investigation into the world's largest plastic polluters over Earth Day weekend (April 24-25th PST). An informative webinar or “Agent Training” will take place April 17th at 2 different times to accommodate all time zones. You can choose the webinar you will attend, from the following two times, at registration (see registration to convert to your time zone): April 17th 8AM PST April 17th 4PM PST The Sweep day, time and location itself will be chosen by each participant or team lead as long as it takes place over daylight hours April 24th or 25th. The operation results or “evidence” will be compiled and shared with Break Free From Plastic Coalition's database just in time for the Break Free From Plastic Pollution Act's revival in US Capital! This event will also set the stage and create opportunities for other countries to push plastic reduction legislation. Template letters will also be made available after the sweep so that all participants can send notes to their lawmakers to urge them to address plastic pollution at the source by requiring polluting corporations to manage their plastic pollution. Head to link below to learn more about Operation Global Sweep and to Register yourself as an individual or to lead a team as an org or if you have friends and family that want to join you (socially distant of course): https://mailchi.mp/dadf3515b055/h2oo-and-the-global-youth-climate-revolution-1532875 (edited)

Don't Miss Operation Global Sweep!

6:41 AM

Karen here. I need to speak to the mannager!

4:25 AM

About #projectkamp. Portuguese guy here. You guys are risking #BIGFINES for burning leftover wood and vegetation. You need to warn the municipality before. Even during rainy season. You're risking fines from 800 to 60.000 EUROS. It's on video. It can get ugly.

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4:26 AM

Also, you shouldn't remove the vegetation around the pond, since it helps retaining the water. Talk to the people in Tamera, they can provide all the information you need.

4:27 AM

Removing the shade provided by the trees and vegetation will improve evaporation.

4:30 AM

You can remove just the excess vegetation and prune the trees. Anything beyond that will help dry out the pond. It gets pretty hot in the summer over there. You should wait for dry season to clean up and even dig up to make it a little bit bigger.

4:33 AM

Just my 2cents. Hope it's not too late and it can be of any help.

@André da Francelina you should probably leave this info in the #kamp-chat channel

6:20 AM

if you go to #🖐start-here you can react with ProjectKamp

to one of the messages to join that section.

Can someone please tell me what is the temperature at which hdpe 10mm sheets starts burning.?

André da Francelina

Karen here. I need to speak to the mannager!

Hello Andre, I've seen your message and email too. Thank you for the warning. Very useful. I am sure @davehakkens will take that into consideration for the next round of clean ups.

Hi, any developers here? Thanks

Software or real estate developer?

Cain Czopek

️ Hello! My name is Cain and I live in Oakland, California. I would love to help the precious plastics mission and support however I can. Wether setting up collection points or spreading the word. I also have a studio space and would be interested in setting up a machine shop.

Hi Cain. I also live in Oakland and just found out about Precious Plastics. Do you know if there is a Bay Area chapter?

@Edo secret location.

marcos tavares

@Edo secret location.

Thanks @marcos tavares ,i get it ! is a way to filter real Volunteers

(edited)

@Edo was the first to find kamp. Nice Treasure hunt

the kamp isnt ready to guest, volunteers Will have lot off space to help in the future.

Hey

Can you please take a few minutes and give the link a read. If you can spare anything to help support this project I would really appreciate it! If not could you please help spread the word Thanks!

❤️

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https://www.gofundme.com/f/temporary-homeless-shelters

Temporary Homeless Shelters, organized by Josh Griffin

Hi, my name is Josh. I am from Winnipeg, Canada. Growing up my family didn't have a lot. Wha… Josh Griffin needs your support for Temporary Homeless Shelters

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Hello All Wherever you are,

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My Name is Jonas Orowe Opiyo and I am from Kenya in East Africa. I am interested in Plastics Recycle and would like to engage and learn more please assist

any one with the contacts for Precious Plastics ?

I want to buy the Bricks Starterkit but it says it’s sold out on the site. Does anyone know what I can do?

@Salu You can apply via their starterkit form. Im trying to find you the link.

Hello friends I am hoping to recycle plastics while i tour South America in a van. I am excited to start this journey hope you all are well

Hi friends!! I just wanted to share my site and Instagram secondactplastic.com we just started so pls spread the word

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Dave Hakkens's video on russian. Делаю перевод на русский и озвучку лучших видео Дейва Хаккенса, кое-что уже опубликовал, дальше будет больше: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLp2dPh4UZz4twVIfYtYBF5KRgR1pN8ZY8

Дейв Хаккенс

Русская озвучка лучших видео Дейва Хаккенса и OneArmy.earth

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we are in the process of developing a new kind of smartphone, i think compatible with the philosophy of the phonebloks project "the community will judge", our goal is to create a scalable, repairable and customizable smartphone, that it is the coolest and especially with the latest tandance of premium smartphones of the moment. we have prepared all the electronic aspect (PCB, connectors, connection protocol for modules ...except the firmware), and now we want to advance on a functional prototype, unfortunately we didn't really create a visual, but above all we need is the opinions of the community, thank you in advance. (edited)

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Hello my friends, my name is Marcel I'm living in Essaouira/Maroc together with a friend, we want to launch a pp recycling point. We want to include the young ones. Does someone already made any experiences introducing precious plastic in schools? Thanks in advance for your response. Wish a great for everyone and stay safe.

https://youtu.be/Fiu9GSOmt8E

Plastics: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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nice video

so guys

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i'm really thinking bout do something big

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in plastic recycling

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my mainly concern about it is plastic separation

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if you can do it, we can do anything

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i don't know if there is a lot of industrial process that do it

PPP Essaouira

Hello my friends, my name is Marcel I'm living in Essaouira/Maroc together with a friend, we want to launch a pp recycling point. We want to include the young ones. Does someone already made any experiences introducing precious plastic in schools? Thanks in advance for your response. Wish a great for everyone and stay safe.

Hi! I recently completed my master deegree thesis, regarding plastic recycling in primary schools. I have uploaded my research here https://plasticrecyclingforkids.weebly.com/deltaiotaalphabetaalphasigmatauepsilon-tauetanu-muepsilonlambdaepsilontaueta.html At the moment it is only in greek though. I plan on translating in english at some point

ΔΙΑΒΑΣΤΕ ΤΗΝ ΜΕΛΕΤΗ

Εργαστήριο πλαστικού για παιδιά

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Hello Everyone, I am Mawaheb, Syrian based in Serbia, I would like to start recycling plastic, sick of the waste we make and the harm to the envirnment, my only problem is, I don't know what to convert the plastic to, pots? parts for cars ? camping equipments? i don't have a goal

9:54 AM

suggestions are welcome

afternoon everyone just curious what component is being used to heat the plastic ?

Hello community, I started my PATREON today. Always want to help from 75014 Paris, please let me know if you have a good job for me with my seat Alhambra. Love, Mark

Added a new role in the #🖐start-here channel for our new project next week FixingFashion

This is just a screenshot for the archive (edited)

Oh that's so exciting!!! I really want to know already what the project is about

(I meant the specifics lol) (edited)

Hello everybody I am new in discord. Just saw the 10 vídeo and about the cleaning machines maybe you guys should Watch the open source ecology project and this link

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8:29 PM

Open source ecology in youtube

I work with the group a bit and we have a discord, would you like a link to it @Jose Dias ?

Yes i just saw it was mt chat to everybody

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Please send it to me

We are planning to convert a Mercedes mb100 into a moving workshop with the oven and the injection machine Also it will work as a collection point

Beach cleanups and summer night cinemas wil be our thing, teaching tourists and locals on plastic pollution and how to tackle it!!!!

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Sounds neat, definetly keep us "in the loop" and show some pictures along the way!

Hi everyone! New here

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@Eric Lotze thanks! Will do

cool cool cool

Hi there, We cannot change our email adress on the PP community map when I am logged in. Who can assist me there

Hi @Maku , so am I! rainbow_heart

Community Game Night: Who is down? Hosted Here -> https://discord.gg/b5bZrUBBVK Tonight we’ll be playing Among Us! https://apps.apple.com/us/app/among-us/id1351168404

‎Among Us!

‎Play online or over local WiFi with 4-10 players as you attempt to prep your spaceship for departure, but beware as one will be an impostor bent on killing everyone! Crewmates can win by completing all tasks or discovering and voting the impostor off the ship. The Impostor can use sabotage to cau…

Hi @all, I am Tjark and new here. Excited to join. Best regards from Aachen/Germany

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hi all. I'm from NL, and I just saw a video on your Portugal project. Interesting stuff. Are you looking for people to join at any point?

Does anyone have any experience with encapsulating solar cells and using something more lightweight like ETFE or PMMA as a cover?

Hi I’m working on a project www.adaptation.net that wants to bring together solutions for the PET plastics industry. We want to connect everyone with an idea to recycle and reuse PET packaging.

@tjrk Not sure if you are aware but there also is a german PP discord https://discord.gg/7n2HpvKE

ysys

@tjrk Not sure if you are aware but there also is a german PP discord https://discord.gg/7n2HpvKE

Thanks for the invitation

everything for the community

I'm trying to make a grinder and an extruder, can I use open source?

Hi there, I do rotational moulding - trying to get and make HDPE and LDPE powder 1mm or smaller for rotational moulding. Anyone make this or got tips on which pulverising machine to make or buy in order to get the particle size down to <1000 microns or <200 microns? Based in UK and France. Cheers, Katty, OFT

What are the qualifications to be assigned the Precious Plastic role badge on this one army server?

Hi Guys, Someone can help me find where is the plastic chart? That one it tells every type of plastic. I couldnt find in the download area of precious plastic academy. Thanks in advance

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@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto Thomas amazing, You are the best my friend. Thanks a lot

Guys sorry to bother you again but is there a starter kit for the container? I am evaluating investing in the production of a unit

Someone can help me to configure the display for the extrusion machine because I was buy Rex c100 and have a relay 220ac output and input.. I don't have idea to program the same.

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

What are the qualifications to be assigned the Precious Plastic role badge on this one army server?

No qualifications just read #🖐start-here and follow the instructions

Ricupero

Guys sorry to bother you again but is there a starter kit for the container? I am evaluating investing in the production of a unit

You will find it in the Mix-Space;)

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How do you produce the pendant? If you combine melted plastic with wood it will glue together and is not easy to recycle again. How does your frame looks like? Maybe you can press it, screw it or use small pins,...

Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto

You will find it in the Mix-Space;)

Man...I am so stupid rsrsrs. I browsed all the website and I couldnt find it. Can you point to me wich is the file that I have to download?

Ricupero

Man...I am so stupid rsrsrs. I browsed all the website and I couldnt find it. Can you point to me wich is the file that I have to download?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto

Finally I found it

. Tks a lot my friend . You are special

Ola ta bom?

Hello everyone!! Im really glad to be part of this amazing movement. Im starting a business where we sell sustainable tattoo productos and Im looking for tattoo artists that are willing to answer a super fast and simple survey for my research. If any artist is here and is interested please contact me !! Thank you very much and hope everyone is doing fine ❤️ (edited)

Hi! This may be reinventing the wheel, but is it possible to use any # type of plastic & shape it into cinder block shapes? I’m not an engineer, but if it is possible it could have many applications; foundations for buildings, layout for irrigation to garden area, etc. Anyone have any thoughts or insight?

ChaosMelody

Hi! This may be reinventing the wheel, but is it possible to use any # type of plastic & shape it into cinder block shapes? I’m not an engineer, but if it is possible it could have many applications; foundations for buildings, layout for irrigation to garden area, etc. Anyone have any thoughts or insight?

https://youtu.be/LV6Zp9i0mOc

Create marble from plastic bags #preciousplastic

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https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-extruded-plastic-bricks

Colombia's Lego Homes - earthrise (lead)

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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@ChaosMelody would any of these work?

ChaosMelody

Hi! This may be reinventing the wheel, but is it possible to use any # type of plastic & shape it into cinder block shapes? I’m not an engineer, but if it is possible it could have many applications; foundations for buildings, layout for irrigation to garden area, etc. Anyone have any thoughts or insight?

People in the precious plastic community have experimented with making plastic bricks, most designs have been Lego style so that you can easily out them together without anything extra. This is the bricks starter kit: https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/buy/bricks.html at the top there are some photos of the design. And if you look at some of the older videos on the One Army YouTube channel they have featured one design that doubles as a plant pot. Let me know (by @ing me) if you want me to find a more specific link to that video. (edited)

Buy a Brick Starterkit

Purchase a starterkit to make bricks from recycled plastic from Precious Plastic HQ.

what are some big brain eco-friendly projects ppl do?

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I come from IT background where I tried working on complex projects like combining 3d rendering and machine learning algorithms and image processing and digital painting to translate 3d image into digital painting (edited)

Hey, I tried to search for this first but nothing came up... I want to create a fundraiser for the Precious Plastic Community over Facebook, it seems really few people did so far... and there is no mention on the one army website about that option. So basically my question is that the money will reach you guys @one_army Thanks!

Case

what are some big brain eco-friendly projects ppl do?

What about using CV to figure out plastic type? just raised an idea that could benefit from something like that on #deleted-channel

while CV could be put to good use im sure, high tech solutions are only temporary stop gap measures and will all go to shit within a few decades when oil crisis hits. (edited)

oh so I must have missed your aim then..

Hi, everyone. I’ve been lurking for quite a while as Discord is a little overwhelming for me to navigate, so I apologize if this is in the wrong location. I’ve just seen the update on clothing repair and I am so happy to see awareness surrounding fast fashion. I’m in another server (we’re all costumers with YouTube channels) and we’re all passionate about addressing this issue. Please let me know if a group of 200 people who sew and operate YouTube channels can be of any help.

@McNerdyMakes Hi!! I sew as well

I see you haven't joined the Fixing Fashion channel, if you go to #🖐start-here and follow the instructions (reacting with FixingFashion

to number 2) then you can see some channels they added specifically for Fixing Fashion

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Liri (They/He)

@McNerdyMakes Hi!! I sew as well

I see you haven't joined the Fixing Fashion channel, if you go to #🖐start-here and follow the instructions (reacting with FixingFashion

to number 2) then you can see some channels they added specifically for Fixing Fashion

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Thank you so much! And hello to a fellow sewist!

McNerdyMakes

Thank you so much! And hello to a fellow sewist!

I'll actually be taking my school's Costume Design class next year. (After 3 years of Fashion Design

)

Liri (They/He)

I'll actually be taking my school's Costume Design class next year. (After 3 years of Fashion Design

)

Congrats! Most of us are historical costumers with degrees in things like fashion history, but I feel like alterations and repair just kinda comes with the package lol.

McNerdyMakes

Congrats! Most of us are historical costumers with degrees in things like fashion history, but I feel like alterations and repair just kinda comes with the package lol.

Yeah yeah of course, I have watched some of those videos on YouTube I just have a greater interest in sustainability personally...

Liri (They/He)

Yeah yeah of course, I have watched some of those videos on YouTube I just have a greater interest in sustainability personally...

Haha I’m in that boat. My channel is all about making costumes and props from recycled materials so I kind of integrate all of my interests that way.

McNerdyMakes

Haha I’m in that boat. My channel is all about making costumes and props from recycled materials so I kind of integrate all of my interests that way.

ooh I would love a link to it if you could DM it to me

Liri (They/He)

ooh I would love a link to it if you could DM it to me

Sure thing! I’m also going to be part of the online conference in August. Last year we had quite a turnout so I’d planned on hosting a panel about using recycled materials in costumes and props, but after seeing the post here I pitched the idea of others collaborating with me on doing a panel on alterations and clothing repair. Super cool!

Oh sounds so cool! I would love to see updates on that (I assume that'll be on your channel

)

https://discord.gg/PWMd6wF5 Just opened a server for people that want to share servers/sites/tech work!

server links need to be reposted often as they expire

Hi how are you ? My name is Adir and I am the CEO and founder of the "Believers Who Create Influence" non profit organization, we do many things that most of them is within Israel and recently we have started making humanitarian missions to Africa.We thought of going to Africa, to places that waste and burn plastic, build a shredder for them, make tools from recycled plastic and sell the tools in the world with the help of Global Internet Market , with the money we rise we will Fund local information lessons on the importance of plastic recycling and also pay Africans that collect plastic .

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Hi there beautiful people, I'm new here and trying to find my way. I'm working on a project on modular household appliances, what would be a channel to post about it? #phonebloks-chat is mostly about phones, so not quite fitting.

Hi all! Do we have a directory of makers that share their works and make videos on Youtube? Apart from the One Army channel

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Liri (They/He)

People in the precious plastic community have experimented with making plastic bricks, most designs have been Lego style so that you can easily out them together without anything extra. This is the bricks starter kit: https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/buy/bricks.html at the top there are some photos of the design. And if you look at some of the older videos on the One Army YouTube channel they have featured one design that doubles as a plant pot. Let me know (by @ing me) if you want me to find a more specific link to that video. (edited)

I also saw this recently and thought it was worth sharing the way Colombia is doing the plastic bricks todo homes for the disadvantaged - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfWBhNhZuzY

Al Jazeera English

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QuakerOates

I also saw this recently and thought it was worth sharing the way Colombia is doing the plastic bricks todo homes for the disadvantaged - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfWBhNhZuzY

That's so awesome that they're out there already and making like that!!

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Hi, I am a Blockchain developer, specialised in custom cryptocurrency and blockchain based Enterprise solutions. I have extensive experience in ICO's, STO's, Customising Consensus(POS/POW), Cryptoexchange, Wallets and crypto-bot design, DApps, blockchain websites, web portals, & smart contracts applications development.

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Is there anyone want an blockchain developer for his or her project please?

Who can i contact About marketing proposal?

Does anyone know the platform the onearmy, precious plastic, etc. websites are built on? I love the aesthetic!

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Its webflow! I love webflow!

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@everyone PSA from the moderation team: If you received any private messages regarding some kind of Crypto/Binance project, it's a scam. One Army doesn't participate in this "deal", no matter what the message is pretending. Also : Please don't even click on any suspicious links sent in private. It may (potentially) be trying to hack through your Discord account. (edited)

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Ok

Got it

Oh no plasti-coin is a recycled scam?

Not a new scam, this guy has been at this a while. See https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/femynz/scam_probably/ for one of his earlier ventures. Remember kids, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. No one is gonna go give you free crypto

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r/CryptoCurrency - Scam? Probably.

14 votes and 36 comments so far on Reddit

MurmurousMelon

Not a new scam, this guy has been at this a while. See https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/femynz/scam_probably/ for one of his earlier ventures. Remember kids, if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. No one is gonna go give you free crypto

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exept on ur birthday

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good so no one is safe

Thanks for the info

Would anyone or someone share a picture of their sheet press electronic setting with me? I'm struggling to understand the wiring between contactors and the rest. I'm rubbish with this stuff. Thank you

Hello all! I just joined this comunity. And would love to introduce myself: My name is Petra and I am a toy maker living in Spain. I do creatures from kids drawings using descarted fashion and trying to keep my business as zerowaste as possible. Happy to be here!

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@rehechoconamor welcome!

Hello everyone, I'm fairly new to discord so hope i'm in the right place to ask my question. I am an industrial design student at the Ugent (Belgium) and have to do a master's thesis next year. After a lot of research of companies I would like to work with, I have come to the conclusion that the onearmy team interests me the most. I think the topics they work on are very topical and noble and I am also working on this myself. To give examples, I have already worked through my school on projects such as producing bio materials and circular clothing industry. I am looking for a contact person where I can go into more depth about this assignment and the collaboration. I have already tried to reach them in different ways but without success. Hopefully I will get an answer here so that I may be able to contribute my part to the cause of the onearmy With best regards Emile Boving

Welcome!

MAP MAP MAP! I think it is pretty amazing that someone has come up with the map concept, it could work really well! Just did a search of "MAP" in these discussions there are many complaints, questions suggestions. It is a very hot topic globally. Here is an opportunity for improvement to maximize global plastic recycling: -Members should be able to place themselves on the map without work center etc- this is complicated or not working, at least not in Canada. -The search filter needs to be tested it is not working well and needs work and field testing. For everyones purposes one should be able to drill down from country to region to town or city and city region. And see people. This can be accomplished by a filter with an adjustable diameter pinned at any existing location for example, the google API and this type of functuonality coding exists and can surely be found and embedded by a clever PP soul. -The map needs to be the forefront of everything a Precious Plastic community is doing no matter at what level. It would certainly eleviate the "where are you from?" Or I am from...do you know if there is anyone...." if this happens 5000 times and counting ( it has), is a time waster taking time away from recycling plastic or making machines. Supporting Patrion, lets get a handle on this before everyone in PP creates their own map causing the PP universe to have a melt down. We all need to work together regardless of our differences. We need an action Hero to turbo charge the map. But WHERE is this person, if we only had a map and know what each others capabilities are beyond community point, workspace, etc. We need people on the map, the workspace does not do its work on its own. We will get to our common goal of diverting plastic from landfill faster if we have a current functional map. Saving time and focus on what is critical infrastructure is vital that is a fact, just ask any army commander, they know where their troops are.

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@Emile Hi, just put a call to action out and hope someone is listening. You highlight exactly the issue with finding people.

yoolars

Does anyone know the platform the onearmy, precious plastic, etc. websites are built on? I love the aesthetic!

Unless I'm mistaken it's this one: https://github.com/ONEARMY/community-platform

ONEARMY/community-platform

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world and tackle plastic waste. - ONEARMY/community-platform

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

MAP MAP MAP! I think it is pretty amazing that someone has come up with the map concept, it could work really well! Just did a search of "MAP" in these discussions there are many complaints, questions suggestions. It is a very hot topic globally. Here is an opportunity for improvement to maximize global plastic recycling: -Members should be able to place themselves on the map without work center etc- this is complicated or not working, at least not in Canada. -The search filter needs to be tested it is not working well and needs work and field testing. For everyones purposes one should be able to drill down from country to region to town or city and city region. And see people. This can be accomplished by a filter with an adjustable diameter pinned at any existing location for example, the google API and this type of functuonality coding exists and can surely be found and embedded by a clever PP soul. -The map needs to be the forefront of everything a Precious Plastic community is doing no matter at what level. It would certainly eleviate the "where are you from?" Or I am from...do you know if there is anyone...." if this happens 5000 times and counting ( it has), is a time waster taking time away from recycling plastic or making machines. Supporting Patrion, lets get a handle on this before everyone in PP creates their own map causing the PP universe to have a melt down. We all need to work together regardless of our differences. We need an action Hero to turbo charge the map. But WHERE is this person, if we only had a map and know what each others capabilities are beyond community point, workspace, etc. We need people on the map, the workspace does not do its work on its own. We will get to our common goal of diverting plastic from landfill faster if we have a current functional map. Saving time and focus on what is critical infrastructure is vital that is a fact, just ask any army commander, they know where their troops are.

I agree, it’s hard to recruit people if you don’t know who the ordinary members are

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Ley Klussyn

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@everyone PSA from the moderation team: If you received any private messages regarding some kind of Crypto/Binance project, it's a scam. One Army doesn't participate in this "deal", no matter what the message is pretending. Also : Please don't even click on any suspicious links sent in private. It may (potentially) be trying to hack through your Discord account. (edited)

I figured, but when I saw that I was about to get angry lmao The environmental impact of crypto seems pretty much opposite of what Precious Plastic's goals are lol

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@✨🌿Viri🍂✨ that's hard to say. There are several crypto farms that are 100% green energy or near 100% green. There's one farm in Iceland that's built into a cave to take advantage of the cooling effects of the subterranean cooling. Granted, you can also make the case that the manufacturing of many green energy products are harmful to the environment. Id have you look into lithium and nickle refining. It's rather easy to find fault with anything on how it's not green enough. Better to take a step back and a deep breath and take a more pragmatic approach. Unlike my neighbors, they have a tesla and our power company uses lignite to make electricity. Yep their car is basically coal powered.

There's like 10 farms globally that are green

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Meanwhile the rest got kicked out of china for pulling too much power and are now sucking down so much they're causing rolling brownouts in Iran

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Not even mentioning the ones powered by diesel generators, etc

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

MAP MAP MAP! I think it is pretty amazing that someone has come up with the map concept, it could work really well! Just did a search of "MAP" in these discussions there are many complaints, questions suggestions. It is a very hot topic globally. Here is an opportunity for improvement to maximize global plastic recycling: -Members should be able to place themselves on the map without work center etc- this is complicated or not working, at least not in Canada. -The search filter needs to be tested it is not working well and needs work and field testing. For everyones purposes one should be able to drill down from country to region to town or city and city region. And see people. This can be accomplished by a filter with an adjustable diameter pinned at any existing location for example, the google API and this type of functuonality coding exists and can surely be found and embedded by a clever PP soul. -The map needs to be the forefront of everything a Precious Plastic community is doing no matter at what level. It would certainly eleviate the "where are you from?" Or I am from...do you know if there is anyone...." if this happens 5000 times and counting ( it has), is a time waster taking time away from recycling plastic or making machines. Supporting Patrion, lets get a handle on this before everyone in PP creates their own map causing the PP universe to have a melt down. We all need to work together regardless of our differences. We need an action Hero to turbo charge the map. But WHERE is this person, if we only had a map and know what each others capabilities are beyond community point, workspace, etc. We need people on the map, the workspace does not do its work on its own. We will get to our common goal of diverting plastic from landfill faster if we have a current functional map. Saving time and focus on what is critical infrastructure is vital that is a fact, just ask any army commander, they know where their troops are.

hello guys.. map map map.. yes map is crucial to Precious Plastic. To shine some light on the thought process and evolution of it I'll share some behind the scenes with you guys. 2016 --> We released v2 and had a map showing the number of people sharing the project and demanding Precious Plastic to exist. We had tens of thousands of points. Good to see the magnitude. 2018 --> We released v3 and released a new map with workspaces, machine builders and people that wanted to get started. We had about 13K pins, most of them people that at some points wanted to get started. Quickly became unusable. 2021 --> We release v4 with a more granular map (the current map). The goal is not to end up with a messy map with thousands of "useless" pins that never log in or answer questions. Our thinking about the map has been changing over the years and is now focused on less rather than more. Quality pins rather than quantity. I totally agree we need to improve the map as it is one of the most important asset and tools for the community but I am dubious more pins for the sake of more pins would make it better. We need more focused, serious pins on the map. But that might take some time. Slow growth. Precious Plastic style

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datastreamcowboy

@✨🌿Viri🍂✨ that's hard to say. There are several crypto farms that are 100% green energy or near 100% green. There's one farm in Iceland that's built into a cave to take advantage of the cooling effects of the subterranean cooling. Granted, you can also make the case that the manufacturing of many green energy products are harmful to the environment. Id have you look into lithium and nickle refining. It's rather easy to find fault with anything on how it's not green enough. Better to take a step back and a deep breath and take a more pragmatic approach. Unlike my neighbors, they have a tesla and our power company uses lignite to make electricity. Yep their car is basically coal powered.

And obviously a lot of green products are made unethically with terrible environmental impact, no ethical consumption under capitalism and all that But crypto isn't a crucial product that will help deal with climate change, it's a fad toy for rich people to play with You don't need to get into crypto, for the vast majority of people it's entirely useless, but lithium cells are useful to pretty much everyone at this point

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4:30 PM

Like I cannot stress enough about how we could simply choose to not use crypto anymore and almost nothing would change. It doesn't justify its own environmental impact at all lol (edited)

4:31 PM

Money computer go brrrrrr I guess

I think cryptos biggest contribution won't be the currency, but the technology innovations its created. Block chain technology is already being used by India and Russia for record keeping.

Mattia

hello guys.. map map map.. yes map is crucial to Precious Plastic. To shine some light on the thought process and evolution of it I'll share some behind the scenes with you guys. 2016 --> We released v2 and had a map showing the number of people sharing the project and demanding Precious Plastic to exist. We had tens of thousands of points. Good to see the magnitude. 2018 --> We released v3 and released a new map with workspaces, machine builders and people that wanted to get started. We had about 13K pins, most of them people that at some points wanted to get started. Quickly became unusable. 2021 --> We release v4 with a more granular map (the current map). The goal is not to end up with a messy map with thousands of "useless" pins that never log in or answer questions. Our thinking about the map has been changing over the years and is now focused on less rather than more. Quality pins rather than quantity. I totally agree we need to improve the map as it is one of the most important asset and tools for the community but I am dubious more pins for the sake of more pins would make it better. We need more focused, serious pins on the map. But that might take some time. Slow growth. Precious Plastic style

Thanks for your reply Mattia. If I may suggest that the number of points visible at one time seems to be chaotic but in fact could be handled with much improved filters and zoom based on the area someone is looking at. I dont agree that less is more. We cant find other members easily. Less per filter and zoom level yes, just need more filters that work. I know Precious Plastic has the "map experience" but perhaps having members that have ideas or experienced map pitfalls chime in would be beneficial. A quick zoom chat with one of the people that does the programming and one that can make a decision on a proposed change to test would bring some new light. Testing before going live (maybe we can help). Also perhaps if the map would only show members(not the other workshop pins) that have been active on the map or discord in the last 30 days that would weed out inactive points. It is also the disconnect between the Discord and the Map that has room for improvement in terms of inactive people in the community also. (edited)

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7:17 PM

Xrp?

The map is so important, everytime im on the discord, someone is on there adking is anyone near to where they live. The map would end that discussion and start a more important one, for instance You are near me lets wirk together on this

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Mirco (CANADA, ON)

Thanks for your reply Mattia. If I may suggest that the number of points visible at one time seems to be chaotic but in fact could be handled with much improved filters and zoom based on the area someone is looking at. I dont agree that less is more. We cant find other members easily. Less per filter and zoom level yes, just need more filters that work. I know Precious Plastic has the "map experience" but perhaps having members that have ideas or experienced map pitfalls chime in would be beneficial. A quick zoom chat with one of the people that does the programming and one that can make a decision on a proposed change to test would bring some new light. Testing before going live (maybe we can help). Also perhaps if the map would only show members(not the other workshop pins) that have been active on the map or discord in the last 30 days that would weed out inactive points. It is also the disconnect between the Discord and the Map that has room for improvement in terms of inactive people in the community also. (edited)

Also, not showing the members on first load and then being able to add them via checkbox would be possible, maybe best of both worlds? This way you would not clutter unless people want that extra info

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7:51 PM

If I am looking in my area (southeast USA) there is nothing on the map, but old map shows at least some people i could connect with if i could get their contact.

Canadian Recycler

The map is so important, everytime im on the discord, someone is on there adking is anyone near to where they live. The map would end that discussion and start a more important one, for instance You are near me lets wirk together on this

Agree! I understand our current map issues better now that @Mattia gave us the history from PP perspective ... Could there be a way to make the 'pins' fall off after 6 months (or 2 months, whatever) from no activity?

JuleAsterisk

Agree! I understand our current map issues better now that @Mattia gave us the history from PP perspective ... Could there be a way to make the 'pins' fall off after 6 months (or 2 months, whatever) from no activity?

That's a great idea. If we know the last login in the metadata we can have them not show up. I can help on the programming side if needed.

I stumbled upon this map chat here while searching for map details. I initially posted in #archived-plastic the following "Hello everyone. We are interested in starting PP in our area. The map is pretty empty in our region of the world so we are wondering how to start. Should we start with becoming a community point and collection site and then quickly expand to shredding? I am just wondering if it makes sense to collect if we do not have a way to shred/sell the materials. What is a minimum activity to start out with? Any thoughts? Thank you" My experience as a new user is that i am thinking that this is a very small project / not many people support it yet. but now it seem to me that the users are just not showing up.

I like the idea. No one in my state. I read a lot but posted very little. So you really need to define active members. Map pins of members would help me find people close in other states.

Toby

That's a great idea. If we know the last login in the metadata we can have them not show up. I can help on the programming side if needed.

oh what if we could add recent activity to keep the pin active. Just let user add a small blog post and display the last 3 when the pin is clicked.

Could just make it so you have to do a quick check in every 3 months or so to maintain your pin

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✨🌿Viri🍂✨

Could just make it so you have to do a quick check in every 3 months or so to maintain your pin

agreed. most people are active only on one of the social medias such as discord, yt, twitch, fb, tiktok or ig and likely to forget other accounts they have. but making a reminder on calendar to login PP acc once in a while sounds achievable. i currently can’t imagine a better idea. i don’t hv a PP acc and will make one if it helps people find me. what contact info should we share though? email only? social media handles?

Toby

I stumbled upon this map chat here while searching for map details. I initially posted in #archived-plastic the following "Hello everyone. We are interested in starting PP in our area. The map is pretty empty in our region of the world so we are wondering how to start. Should we start with becoming a community point and collection site and then quickly expand to shredding? I am just wondering if it makes sense to collect if we do not have a way to shred/sell the materials. What is a minimum activity to start out with? Any thoughts? Thank you" My experience as a new user is that i am thinking that this is a very small project / not many people support it yet. but now it seem to me that the users are just not showing up.

I've came across the same issue quite recently.. locally there are a few pins on the map but after approaching those, it seems that mostly they are not functioning. What I did is that I decided to map my local ecosystem of "want to get started" (which used to be a thing on the map in v3) So I just called up people slowly over the past few weeks and now we are around 12 members trying to figure out how to make a local ecosystem. I've found that this is the work of community point and that it does makes sense to have someone in that role that is actively working to create and maintain a community. My problem with the map now is that I don't actually have a physical location other then my own apartment to put the pin so I think might just put the city and contact info and encourage people to reach out. I do think that even if you this activity thing (which will save some times for new explorers) you might get discouraged by the fact that there was no activity and choose to drop the idea, and it might happen by mistake. When I looked into each one, I had some hope that people are doing something and it kept me going on my search. Just my own two cents

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11:38 AM

Also, I'd love to see the "want to get started" brought back! (edited)

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JuleAsterisk

Agree! I understand our current map issues better now that @Mattia gave us the history from PP perspective ... Could there be a way to make the 'pins' fall off after 6 months (or 2 months, whatever) from no activity?

I love this idea Jule. Possibly set up a Notification email stating something like "Hey XYZ! You haven't logged into the Precious Plastic Community for awhile and your ABC Pin on our map will be deactivated in 7 days. If you're still active, just click here to log in and you will be all set.

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8:29 PM

Might be we have some developers in here who could help with some of these asks/features to the map to help with a Map 4.1? (edited)

davidyaha

I've came across the same issue quite recently.. locally there are a few pins on the map but after approaching those, it seems that mostly they are not functioning. What I did is that I decided to map my local ecosystem of "want to get started" (which used to be a thing on the map in v3) So I just called up people slowly over the past few weeks and now we are around 12 members trying to figure out how to make a local ecosystem. I've found that this is the work of community point and that it does makes sense to have someone in that role that is actively working to create and maintain a community. My problem with the map now is that I don't actually have a physical location other then my own apartment to put the pin so I think might just put the city and contact info and encourage people to reach out. I do think that even if you this activity thing (which will save some times for new explorers) you might get discouraged by the fact that there was no activity and choose to drop the idea, and it might happen by mistake. When I looked into each one, I had some hope that people are doing something and it kept me going on my search. Just my own two cents

That is kind of how I ended up here and kind of the same boat I am in. This is something I really want to do but I do not have an address to meet up anywhere (living out of my car) but I do have a steady flow of income from the VA that I can put toward the movement. I will follow suit and start making calls, use dating apps and social media to build a community by leading them here. The most tangible thing I can do right now is call this company that laser cuts parts and welds to get a quote for the shredder machine. I want to see how much it would cost to have it cut and built. That way myself and other members can atleast start holding fundraisers and raise awareness.

1:02 AM

I am a member in Washington State and would like to join the existing community or start a new one (this is a life passion). My contact info is ketchadventures@gmail.com

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

MAP MAP MAP! I think it is pretty amazing that someone has come up with the map concept, it could work really well! Just did a search of "MAP" in these discussions there are many complaints, questions suggestions. It is a very hot topic globally. Here is an opportunity for improvement to maximize global plastic recycling: -Members should be able to place themselves on the map without work center etc- this is complicated or not working, at least not in Canada. -The search filter needs to be tested it is not working well and needs work and field testing. For everyones purposes one should be able to drill down from country to region to town or city and city region. And see people. This can be accomplished by a filter with an adjustable diameter pinned at any existing location for example, the google API and this type of functuonality coding exists and can surely be found and embedded by a clever PP soul. -The map needs to be the forefront of everything a Precious Plastic community is doing no matter at what level. It would certainly eleviate the "where are you from?" Or I am from...do you know if there is anyone...." if this happens 5000 times and counting ( it has), is a time waster taking time away from recycling plastic or making machines. Supporting Patrion, lets get a handle on this before everyone in PP creates their own map causing the PP universe to have a melt down. We all need to work together regardless of our differences. We need an action Hero to turbo charge the map. But WHERE is this person, if we only had a map and know what each others capabilities are beyond community point, workspace, etc. We need people on the map, the workspace does not do its work on its own. We will get to our common goal of diverting plastic from landfill faster if we have a current functional map. Saving time and focus on what is critical infrastructure is vital that is a fact, just ask any army commander, they know where their troops are.

Good afternoon, what if an icon was placed on the capitol of each state or province that represented all "unassigned" members. That way when new members sign up and scroll over to the icon they can see how many members are in their respective state and what part of the community they want to join. Like a sign up sheet Icon. From there we can all connect via ONE ARMY discord channel, lock down the details of specified group role, and choose the new icon that appropriately represents what type of shop is being operated. I read another suggestion in this thread that a notification process should be installed that determines whether or not a map icon is active.

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@Ketch it seems in some cases you can t even sign up as a new member as mentioned before. That is an issue. If there was a way to mandatory sign up with a t least a state or provincial location...

1:52 AM

There are some good ideas here and it highlites the potential for improvements and even had me realize again that in fact every fourth comment in every channel has something to do with physical location. hope one army is open enough to attempt some things for testing and to make some improvements. (edited)

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Speaking of, are there any "official" precious plastics reps here? Is it illegal for me to say that I work for precious plastics or the I represent them when reaching out for help to other companies or investors?

Ketch

Speaking of, are there any "official" precious plastics reps here? Is it illegal for me to say that I work for precious plastics or the I represent them when reaching out for help to other companies or investors?

Check this out https://preciousplastic.com/about/open-source.html

Precious Plastic is Open Source

Find out how Precious Plastic works and shares knowledge with the world to tackle the plastic waste problem.

Ketch

Speaking of, are there any "official" precious plastics reps here? Is it illegal for me to say that I work for precious plastics or the I represent them when reaching out for help to other companies or investors?

And this if you want to dig more : https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode

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TheProtagonist

And this if you want to dig more : https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode

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@Mirco (CANADA, ON) @Canadian Recycler thanks for your inputs and care for the Precious Plastic map. Lots of good points and great ideas. Love the idea of pins going offline after inactivity. One of the ever presented big problems with Precious Plastic is the lack of developers able to help us

Hence is very difficult/slow to develop new features of change things. Often, Precious Plastic is the result of what can be done at a particular time in history. The reality of things is that we are a heavily under-funded no-profit that struggles to find the cash to pay devs. So development of our tool is slow and often a compromised between what we want and what can be done. This being said I would love to conduct a map call with whoever interested to hear feedback and ideas. I am not sure if @Chris Clarke (lead dev) is able to join.

davehakkens

anyone here experience with blockchain/dApps/crypto? Just created a One Army Coin (OAC) https://etherscan.io/token/0xf17e9e4e32d842e4ddfbed5750a26f7bd77777ee No idea what i'm even trying to achieve here. Sunday playtime project. (edited)

Hi Dave, I saw today your coin listed on Coingecko, I am deep into crypto and NFTs, so If I can help you in any ways with knowledge or feedback, hit me up freely

(btw I'm steadily following you and One Army projects since the Phoneblocks video!)

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Hi Dave, I saw today your coin listed on Coingecko, I am deep into crypto and NFTs, so If I can help you in any ways with knowledge or feedback, hit me up freely

(btw I'm steadily following you and One Army projects since the Phoneblocks video!)

please do

Mattia

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) @Canadian Recycler thanks for your inputs and care for the Precious Plastic map. Lots of good points and great ideas. Love the idea of pins going offline after inactivity. One of the ever presented big problems with Precious Plastic is the lack of developers able to help us

Hence is very difficult/slow to develop new features of change things. Often, Precious Plastic is the result of what can be done at a particular time in history. The reality of things is that we are a heavily under-funded no-profit that struggles to find the cash to pay devs. So development of our tool is slow and often a compromised between what we want and what can be done. This being said I would love to conduct a map call with whoever interested to hear feedback and ideas. I am not sure if @Chris Clarke (lead dev) is able to join.

Hello @Mattia - I would be interested to join the call, I work as a software architect.

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Somepeople here just see this server as a starting point for their own interests, really be carefull when you discuss in private . (edited)

Yeah like i have my own interests but if theres any way i can help others here i will

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Mattia

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) @Canadian Recycler thanks for your inputs and care for the Precious Plastic map. Lots of good points and great ideas. Love the idea of pins going offline after inactivity. One of the ever presented big problems with Precious Plastic is the lack of developers able to help us

Hence is very difficult/slow to develop new features of change things. Often, Precious Plastic is the result of what can be done at a particular time in history. The reality of things is that we are a heavily under-funded no-profit that struggles to find the cash to pay devs. So development of our tool is slow and often a compromised between what we want and what can be done. This being said I would love to conduct a map call with whoever interested to hear feedback and ideas. I am not sure if @Chris Clarke (lead dev) is able to join.

Would love to join on this call

I'm a fullstack web dev with some good experience working with GIS systems - maps - so I might be able to help with some things on my spare time.. I dug through your GitHub the other day and found some things to do but it'll be way more beneficial to have some direction and clear feature descriptions. Also screen designs would be super helpful

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@rebellious did you get my (very late, sorry about that) reply to your questions?

Hey :)

davidyaha

Would love to join on this call

I'm a fullstack web dev with some good experience working with GIS systems - maps - so I might be able to help with some things on my spare time.. I dug through your GitHub the other day and found some things to do but it'll be way more beneficial to have some direction and clear feature descriptions. Also screen designs would be super helpful

Please join our Thursday call! It's on the Precious Plastic Canada discord, pinned to the #general-discussions

@Mattia thanks for your reply, regarding the development cost, we do contribute to Patrion also on behalf of Precious Plastic Canada to support you with tasks like this. I understand that it is costly and free coders are hard to come by, another reason why the map should list peoples voluntary list of skill sets people can volunteer. It is clear that the lack of funding slows or makes timely developments difficult. Very interested to enter into further discussion. We have researched the possibility of entering into a google map type of "take-off" but would much prefer to use a common platform to Precious Plastic of course. We will continue to look at various alternatives and hope in the meantime someone can have a look at plausable simple filter adding a member sign up options without exact locations - just to improve the current map. If our group will find a plausable solution we can share it for debate and evaluation. It is a big issue affecting every member, if you asked 120000 people "hey will you spend $1 on Patrion to support us to get a better map?" I believe you would have at least $5000 on your doorstep pronto for this endevour beyond our current contributions. If you can it would be amazing to schedule a preliminary call, will be there, possibly with our team and @Chris Clarke if at all possible...

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Mirco (CANADA, ON)

@Mattia thanks for your reply, regarding the development cost, we do contribute to Patrion also on behalf of Precious Plastic Canada to support you with tasks like this. I understand that it is costly and free coders are hard to come by, another reason why the map should list peoples voluntary list of skill sets people can volunteer. It is clear that the lack of funding slows or makes timely developments difficult. Very interested to enter into further discussion. We have researched the possibility of entering into a google map type of "take-off" but would much prefer to use a common platform to Precious Plastic of course. We will continue to look at various alternatives and hope in the meantime someone can have a look at plausable simple filter adding a member sign up options without exact locations - just to improve the current map. If our group will find a plausable solution we can share it for debate and evaluation. It is a big issue affecting every member, if you asked 120000 people "hey will you spend $1 on Patrion to support us to get a better map?" I believe you would have at least $5000 on your doorstep pronto for this endevour beyond our current contributions. If you can it would be amazing to schedule a preliminary call, will be there, possibly with our team and @Chris Clarke if at all possible...

I made the v3 precious plastic map, and contributed to the v4 one (in terms of development). There was some ungodly amount of pins on the map in the end of the v3 version, I want to say something like 50k. But only 200-300 were real workspaces. It really was overwhelming to the point of the map not really serving much purpose except to say "look at what reach precious plastic has". I think the real goal of the new map (I didn't design it, but I agree with the design changes) was to make it a "where do I go to get something done with plastic". Just from a development perspective, load of loading so many pins, the last map just ended up being laggy, unresponsive, and clumsy (yes, critquing my own work, and it should have died and i'm glad it did). In my personal opinion, it really didn't fill the purpose it needed to - getting people connected to local workspaces.

11:03 PM

But hey - that's all personal opinion - my mind can be changed (not that it needs to be, i'm working on other things). What might help frame the discussion though is generating your request as a thing commonly used by developers called a User Story. It should usually take the form of "As a <user type> I want to <be able to do xyz> so that I can <reason>". The trick is to not say "I want to be able to put a pin on a map" because that's already the solution, not the problem

11:05 PM

e.g. "As a workspace, I want to be able to connect with local people in my area, so that I can see whether they can help out with my project" <-- that doesn't need a map, but it could be a map, it could also be a list

b_n

I made the v3 precious plastic map, and contributed to the v4 one (in terms of development). There was some ungodly amount of pins on the map in the end of the v3 version, I want to say something like 50k. But only 200-300 were real workspaces. It really was overwhelming to the point of the map not really serving much purpose except to say "look at what reach precious plastic has". I think the real goal of the new map (I didn't design it, but I agree with the design changes) was to make it a "where do I go to get something done with plastic". Just from a development perspective, load of loading so many pins, the last map just ended up being laggy, unresponsive, and clumsy (yes, critquing my own work, and it should have died and i'm glad it did). In my personal opinion, it really didn't fill the purpose it needed to - getting people connected to local workspaces.

Thank you NZ for your insights and informative reply. I am not a programmer although my first computer was a Commodore Vic 20 which is about as far back as computers go unless you were a Texas Instruments person or had an "Elsi Mate" Calculator. Internet wasn

t a thing and dial up BBS (Bulletin Board Systems) were just coming out so we geeked out on that.  So.. I did do dabbling in writing some code, I get the general idea, just not anything on my own, and nothing complex.  Call me Novice in that regard.  Your points on approach are commendable, giving us food for thought.   While I am a little ignorant on programming, I do feel that when a filter is applied, and the software, by programming, then ignores all other data sets it should not overwhelm.  Do you feel if there were more filters and the software ignoring data sorting except for areas the user chooses could reduce the burden?  
Google maps seemingly deal with an abundance of traffic and different functions.  It seems their API is available for development?  Some of our members are looking into that more.  In any regard, We need some internal discussion with our members to address some of the important points you mentioned so that we don

t waste anyone's time and only put fourth sensible things to debate. I believe after we have an internal discussion this week Thursday we could chat again. If you do just glance over 20 or so last posts in any channel the sheer need for the map and the members disconnectedness becomes apparent. (or the need for another solution to the map). Just look for "I am from...", "where are you?", "Do you know where I can find?" etc...

Hey, anyone have any experiences or suggestions to share for the Precious Plastic Map? (edited)

Like with what @davidyaha said (https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/835449099901075486), I've been using the map as more of a starting point to begin understanding what's going on around me. Here's a user story for yah:

As a prospective precious plastic volunteer, I want to know what I can personally do in my area that help me feel more connected to my local community and the materials we use

Some related thoughts: -- Definitely agree that people (myself included!) seem a little lost trying to find people around them in these channels. In many places (like here in New York), the social infrastructure isn't really there yet -- This is extra difficult right now on account of the whole c***d thing making meetups and travel much less appealing for many people who may otherwise be more willing to check out other people's projects in person

-- Perhaps building up more info around "Community Point" could go a long way. The "hard-skills" PP content online/on youtube is wonderful (that's what brought me in to the fold), but education around different ways of organizing (i.e. Corporation vs Worker-owned cooperatives, etc.), industry outreach, and other "soft-skills" is a bit lacking (I think this a challenge with edutainment and online education in general, altho I can't back that statement up very well)

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Mirco (CANADA, ON)

Thank you NZ for your insights and informative reply. I am not a programmer although my first computer was a Commodore Vic 20 which is about as far back as computers go unless you were a Texas Instruments person or had an "Elsi Mate" Calculator. Internet wasn

t a thing and dial up BBS (Bulletin Board Systems) were just coming out so we geeked out on that.  So.. I did do dabbling in writing some code, I get the general idea, just not anything on my own, and nothing complex.  Call me Novice in that regard.  Your points on approach are commendable, giving us food for thought.   While I am a little ignorant on programming, I do feel that when a filter is applied, and the software, by programming, then ignores all other data sets it should not overwhelm.  Do you feel if there were more filters and the software ignoring data sorting except for areas the user chooses could reduce the burden?  
Google maps seemingly deal with an abundance of traffic and different functions.  It seems their API is available for development?  Some of our members are looking into that more.  In any regard, We need some internal discussion with our members to address some of the important points you mentioned so that we don

t waste anyone's time and only put fourth sensible things to debate. I believe after we have an internal discussion this week Thursday we could chat again. If you do just glance over 20 or so last posts in any channel the sheer need for the map and the members disconnectedness becomes apparent. (or the need for another solution to the map). Just look for "I am from...", "where are you?", "Do you know where I can find?" etc...

The technical issue is how to search the data for filtering and display. On the old map, filtering was done in the browser, but to do that, it would require the browser to download the whole data set (memory serves it was a good 600kb). And this would happen on every map page load. To fix that, a search type device would need to be done on the backend, and although possible, it's also shifting the problem around. Algorithms exist, but scaling them is hard. Google does all this s stuff internally, and that's why their pages load well, they just have the resources and man power. Something could also be said that this data and processing also does cost energy, so we should also think about whether this data will actually be helpful or not (which in the past its utility wasn't super great)

yaradeen

Like with what @davidyaha said (https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/835449099901075486), I've been using the map as more of a starting point to begin understanding what's going on around me. Here's a user story for yah:

As a prospective precious plastic volunteer, I want to know what I can personally do in my area that help me feel more connected to my local community and the materials we use

Some related thoughts: -- Definitely agree that people (myself included!) seem a little lost trying to find people around them in these channels. In many places (like here in New York), the social infrastructure isn't really there yet -- This is extra difficult right now on account of the whole c***d thing making meetups and travel much less appealing for many people who may otherwise be more willing to check out other people's projects in person

That's a great user story! I'm curious, if you did have a list or a map, do you think you'd reach out to people? Totally agree on the current restrictions in life, meet ups are a really great way to get involved and start building a local community, so hopefully that comes back soon! If you were an individual that wanted to get involved too, I guess what level of messages and/or direct contact would you want from a workspace? It's a hard line with spam for example.

@Mirco (CANADA, ON) @yaradeen @b_n thanks for taking the time to dive into this. It's super nice and useful to have such a committed community. As mentioned our idea when designing the map was that community points would be local hub that holds the knowledge about what's going on locally (active workspaces, members that want to start, funding opportunities, recycling infrastructure, place to hold lectures etc..). I agree with @Mirco (CANADA, ON) a people powered re-development of the map would be super powerful but I guess first we need to understand what is not working on the map in order of magnitude. Also, we need to keep in mind that the map is super nested on our digital infrastructure so each change has deep repercussions. I am curious on what would be your priority list of things to be changed?

hello! im a design student very interested in your works, i found you while looking at the Rossana Orlandi's website where i found out about precious plastic

Hello, I'm French, sorry if there are spelling mistakes, Let me introduce myself, my name is Bastien Poucel, I am a student in the Pro CPI License at the IUT of Aix-en-Provence, I am currently on an internship in a plastics company. My project is to optimize a plastic film extruder (TRAMU extrudate line). I saw a video on YouTube from the "precious plastic" channel, and while visiting their website, I took to the Discord thread to maybe get some answers to my problems. To quickly explain how the machine works, there are 5 parts: the beginning: the big bag, then a silo, after a hopper, an endless screw and finally the exit. To start, we have a big bag filled with plastic sequins, these sequins must be able to be transported to the silo. (1st problem). Then, once the plastic flakes are in the silo, they pass through the hopper and end up in the endless screw. The endless screw will heat the plastic flakes to have a dough, and at the end of the endless screw, the dough is currently falling to the ground, the idea would be to be able to recover the dough, cool it and then grind it. Thanks, have a good day Sincerely, Bastien Poucel

Hi everyone, I am a long time fan of Precious plastics first time poster

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Good day good day! I'm Iñigo from PUUF, a circular design studio in Copenhagen. We just got a sheet press installed and will have a shredder soon. I'm looking forward to share knowledge until mastering the technique and eventually save tons of plastic waste. Check our cool furniture concepts at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mateusz-puuf/synthetics-with-ethics-recycled-plastic-furniture

Synthetics with ethics - recycled PLASTIC furniture!

Reduce YOUR plastic waste and join PUUF Play - a new, environment and customer centered way of owning.

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Guys, has anyone thought of selling carbon credits based on the activities of recycling companies like Precious Plastic

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Love that name @ındıgoındıgo , may use that phrase "synthetics with ethics"

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Hello everyone My name is Lisa) I came across with one of the OneArmy projects, namely #PreciousPlastic, almost from its very beginning (app. 5 years ago). At that time, I was just starting my undergraduate studies at the University of St. Petersburg, Russia and did not yet know how much my life and my perception of the would change in the nearest future. After 4 years of studying International Relations, I couldn't stop thinking that I was moving in the wrong direction. Already at the university, I began to spread the ideas of #zerowaste #minimalism and #sustainable_consumption. It has been a year since my graduation and it is almost a year now since I am a Sustainable Development Master student in Sweden, Uppsala. Just recently, I started sharing my experience on Instagram @gr.eenko. Every day spent here, surrounded by the same driven people and the world experts in the field, is defo one exceptional experience. I will be very grateful if you join my path, or just share it with someone who is the same sustainablu-inspired!) All have a good weekend and warm spring days))!!

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Love that name @ındıgoındıgo , may use that phrase "synthetics with ethics"

Thanks Eric :^) it was that or "plastic fantastic". Please share it around if it's no inconvenience, we need traction! (edited)

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

@Mattia thanks for your reply, regarding the development cost, we do contribute to Patrion also on behalf of Precious Plastic Canada to support you with tasks like this. I understand that it is costly and free coders are hard to come by, another reason why the map should list peoples voluntary list of skill sets people can volunteer. It is clear that the lack of funding slows or makes timely developments difficult. Very interested to enter into further discussion. We have researched the possibility of entering into a google map type of "take-off" but would much prefer to use a common platform to Precious Plastic of course. We will continue to look at various alternatives and hope in the meantime someone can have a look at plausable simple filter adding a member sign up options without exact locations - just to improve the current map. If our group will find a plausable solution we can share it for debate and evaluation. It is a big issue affecting every member, if you asked 120000 people "hey will you spend $1 on Patrion to support us to get a better map?" I believe you would have at least $5000 on your doorstep pronto for this endevour beyond our current contributions. If you can it would be amazing to schedule a preliminary call, will be there, possibly with our team and @Chris Clarke if at all possible...

I agree, and perhaps we could use the social media to call out for roles we are looking for. We could make mention on the social media, which has a considerable following of over 70,000, that we are looking for developers. We might even hit the jackpot on someone who is willing to do this on a volunteer basis. I'm not sure what level of developer you would need, so I'm not sure if this is a bad idea or not--but lots of high school students need volunteer positions in order to complete their mandatory volunteer hours. If they have the capability to do the task required here it could save some money.

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

@Mattia thanks for your reply, regarding the development cost, we do contribute to Patrion also on behalf of Precious Plastic Canada to support you with tasks like this. I understand that it is costly and free coders are hard to come by, another reason why the map should list peoples voluntary list of skill sets people can volunteer. It is clear that the lack of funding slows or makes timely developments difficult. Very interested to enter into further discussion. We have researched the possibility of entering into a google map type of "take-off" but would much prefer to use a common platform to Precious Plastic of course. We will continue to look at various alternatives and hope in the meantime someone can have a look at plausable simple filter adding a member sign up options without exact locations - just to improve the current map. If our group will find a plausable solution we can share it for debate and evaluation. It is a big issue affecting every member, if you asked 120000 people "hey will you spend $1 on Patrion to support us to get a better map?" I believe you would have at least $5000 on your doorstep pronto for this endevour beyond our current contributions. If you can it would be amazing to schedule a preliminary call, will be there, possibly with our team and @Chris Clarke if at all possible...

I would second Mirco on potentially incorporating filters into the PP map. Of course I can see that the map may have been overwhelmed with just helpers, but they are also a crucial part of the map. For example, if someone wants to run a collection point, it will be very necessary for them to be able to view who is in their area who can potentially be contacted about helping with the collection point. In my experience, I found it a bit difficult connecting with people. Perhaps an area for someone to insert their email or socials into their map pin could be helpful. The only way I stumbled upon this discord in the first place was by fluke that I had decided to look up the names of some of the pins into social media and that person made me aware of the discord.

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I would second Mirco on potentially incorporating filters into the PP map. Of course I can see that the map may have been overwhelmed with just helpers, but they are also a crucial part of the map. For example, if someone wants to run a collection point, it will be very necessary for them to be able to view who is in their area who can potentially be contacted about helping with the collection point. In my experience, I found it a bit difficult connecting with people. Perhaps an area for someone to insert their email or socials into their map pin could be helpful. The only way I stumbled upon this discord in the first place was by fluke that I had decided to look up the names of some of the pins into social media and that person made me aware of the discord.

Re: Filters; perhaps we can have someone try to structure it differently. As I said I am not a great programmer, however if I am looking for something on a map and when I first open it it should show nothing until I am urged to click a filter. The first should maybe be the region, (effectively eliminating data sort of thousands of items in the background). Then further filters could show workspaces and community hubs. So then when I found a worspace nearby on the i should have a way to see who makes up that workspace and leave my contact in fo there. If this workspace is attached to a community hup and I click on it I should see the attached worspaces and people and have a way to post something so someone can reply. Agreed to have some people volunteer might be good but from what I have found it will take an advanced programmer to take this to a level that all members need and for it to be useful.

Hi everyone, I’m in a french engineering school (That’s why my English isn’t perfect ahah) and with some friends we’ve got a project for school and so we talked about using your models to recycle plastics with your machine. We want to introduce this project in Algeria in a little village who has won the title of most beautiful place of the entire area. So we would have wanted to ask some questions about the project, let me know if someone would have the time to help us, we don’t want to bother anyone and take your time. Thank you

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Hello everyone, hope you are all doing great! Me and 2 other guys are working on a idea to create a system that uses recycled plastic into new things, trough automation and digitisation, therefore bringing big manufacturers into this game ( i hope) and accelerating ocean/land cleaning from discarded plastic. However our backgrounds are in Automation, Electrical Design and Materials, and we would be happy to have the support (either short or long term) of people with Mechanical, Software Dev, and Finance background. I´m also already in contact with someone who could mentor us as a potential Start-Up wich we would speak with him after we have built the foundation! For those who are interested, please PM me. I wish you all a great week!

10:11 AM

oh and we will most probably be based in Germany

Hello Team I would like to begin supporting with Patreon, how do I get stickers and a badge???

whos gonna remind Dave in half a year to finish the review on the electric chainsaw?

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I am making my first injection mould, will air be able to escape the mould or should I leave a channel for escaping air to exit? Sorry I can't find the answer, maybe it's not a problem and I'm overthinking it

Hello everybody, I'm Francesco, a eighteenth Italian guy from Treviso and I'm not really into speaking English, sorry for that. Well done for this big community you have created! Anyway, I'm here to ask if someone near me nows if we have any particular regulations in activities involving plastic recycling. Thanks in advance for your help.

Hey Y'all, I'm a long time lurker who finally got around to saying hello. I'm a product designer and professor (of Industrial Design) here in Seattle WA. I'm also working on a carbon farming permaculture property in Eastern Washington, and I'd love to connect with any OneArmy folks who are in the Seattle Area.

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MystroPolymeric

Hello Team I would like to begin supporting with Patreon, how do I get stickers and a badge???

I was contacted via PM on Patreon.

@Deleted User hola. Abre un privado y te ayudaré en tu duda

Hello I’m new here just found this site. Where can you apply for grants from? Any ideas? I saw someone say they got a grant from EU, UN? thanks

We are doing a UN Development project, However they contacted us and invited to bid.

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Hi, may I know where is the Business Channel?

motadanso

Hi, may I know where is the Business Channel?

There is no channel for business but you can start your own channel and invite those who are interested, I know I am...

Because I saw from the academy. Haha Thanks bro

STICKERS!!!!!!!!!! Woo hoo!!! Thanks @Mattia

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There's an interesting effort in India to design take-home oxygen concentrators from locally sourced parts. Please consider donating and passing the message along: https://www.makersasylum.com/m19-oxikit/

M19 Oxikit - Open Source Oxgen Concentrator #BananaShuruKaro #Makei...

DIY Open Source Oxygen Concentrator made with local parts available in India

InspiredMechanic

STICKERS!!!!!!!!!! Woo hoo!!! Thanks @Mattia

Nice one! Took a while

make sure to tag @realpreciousplastic on IG if you're using it

Keep up the great work!

Mirco (CANADA, ON)

Re: Filters; perhaps we can have someone try to structure it differently. As I said I am not a great programmer, however if I am looking for something on a map and when I first open it it should show nothing until I am urged to click a filter. The first should maybe be the region, (effectively eliminating data sort of thousands of items in the background). Then further filters could show workspaces and community hubs. So then when I found a worspace nearby on the i should have a way to see who makes up that workspace and leave my contact in fo there. If this workspace is attached to a community hup and I click on it I should see the attached worspaces and people and have a way to post something so someone can reply. Agreed to have some people volunteer might be good but from what I have found it will take an advanced programmer to take this to a level that all members need and for it to be useful.

Agreed that a combination of Server side filtering with optional Content could be the solution to the problem. The map would look similar to now until one clicks on an optional checkbox to show members in addition to the workspaces. This checkbox could only be available on a certain zoom level. Here was my user story from a few weeks ago: As a new PP user I want to contact other people in my area who are interested to collaborate in case there are no workspaces or community points setup yet.

Been working with plastic film and bags , taking multiple layers, and fusing them into solid structures with hot sand. Not the most beautiful or precious at this point, but has potential to reutilize some of the massive amounts if scrap film waste generated . Working to create functional structures , dialing in the temps, flow rate, dimensions etc. Was heating sand on a propane grill, crock pot, and now building a PID controlled continuous feed sand heater. Running into issues, Thought I would throw it out here, as someone (Patrick McDonald) on facebooks has suggested. Thanks for reading this far Www.Plasticrete.net

Where are you sourcing the sand from?

5:56 AM

(Completely unrelated to the above discussion, but this fits in this channel best i guess:) I saw this interesting video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fkbQynfSyY It went over the work by Veena Sahajwalla (Seemed to be Tire Derived Fuel (TDF) in Steel Blast Furnaces, and then later recycled glass-textile plastic composite tiles)

5:57 AM

The usage of the tiles did seem like something that could work. Also i should look into the hardware they used and all that

5:59 AM

I think someone was mentioning if anyone is recycling plastic from textiles, so her work may help with that

Hi guys, anyone has ever tried using Extruder Pro to make 2.5 metres plastic beam before? One of my leads asked if it's possible to make 2*4 inches beam with 2.5 metres long with Extruder Pro. I used to sell one Extruder and tested 1.5 metres beam only. Many thanks in advance for answers!

#extruderpro #extruder

https://gizmodo.com/this-mini-modular-computer-helps-you-build-gadgets-from-1846699013

This Mini Modular Computer Helps You Build Gadgets From Scratch

You don't need to be an advanced coder to use it.

Heya working on the next Monthly News, anything you'd like to see there? Worthwhile news form the One Army or Precious Plastic or Fixing Fashion community?

hello hello hello!

Hello! I've known about the garage plastic recycle project for a while but I am finally in a position to try making it real where I live

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Hello there, At RecoSolution, our goal is to be your one-stop opportunity to Rethink, Reprocess & Rebuild in life. We manufacture various types of Recycled Plastic Sheets & their products from Municipal waste and Industrial waste. We invest in creating efficient and useful machineries like Shredder , Injection, Extruder, Sheet Press & their parts for recycling a sufficient amount of plastic waste. Connect with us to embark on this journey towards a circular economy and to reform your platform sustainably. DO visit https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/nb-enterprise/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_recosolution/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/eco-sol-tion Youtube: https://youtube.com/channel/UC8kAIlyFJFcse1-BDZDgHIA

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At Recosolution, we invest in creating efficient and useful machinery for recycling a sufficient amount of plastic wastes. We manufacture various types of recycled plastic sheets from Municipal waste and individual waste that are available in different shapes, designs, patterns, and sizes and are multipurpose.

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Hello I’m 14 years old and trying to get into recycling but it seems kind of useless to take it out of my own garbage so I want to try and make it from plastic that lands on the streets do you guys have any tips for like cleaning the plastic or where to look out for and what is the easiest plz let me know

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the easiest, in terms of processing, is to have people bringing you clean plastic. You have to organize this route though. for cleaning you will find some tutorials in the how to's precious plastics page https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/ also there is a recent discord channel dedicated to washing https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/824026136408358912

All Sellers :: RecoSolution

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Ei!

Hello Everyone, First time user/post. I am a primary school teacher in Cedar Pocket, Queensland. We are an environmentally conscious school with a vision to recycle one coffee shops milk bottles. Over 2 years we have been making a Shredder and an extrusion machine. Naturally, we have faced some hurdles, mechanically and mentally. There are still some mechanical issues, but now we are faced with administration issues - Using one of these machines in a primary school screams danger, no, hell no, its impossible, red tape etc etc. Does anyone have any experience or expertise to implement one of these machines in a Queensland school. If anyone has any leads, I would greatly appreciate your help/guidance. Have a great day, All the best, Elle FixingFashion

= Fixing Fashion.

Hey so far I have just been in this server without being active, but I guess this is a good place to ask: I just finished school and am now looking forward to one year of free time before starting to study (urbanism or sustainability sciences), but I need your help to decide what to do during that year. Do you know any cool activities, projects, internships, courses etc. in Europe? Guess Ill also ask in #🥗europe

comfimomfi

Hey so far I have just been in this server without being active, but I guess this is a good place to ask: I just finished school and am now looking forward to one year of free time before starting to study (urbanism or sustainability sciences), but I need your help to decide what to do during that year. Do you know any cool activities, projects, internships, courses etc. in Europe? Guess Ill also ask in #🥗europe

Hi @tobials see if any of the climate-kic.org programmes are suitable. I really enjoyed the Pioneers programme. If you are under 18 this might be the "Young Innovators" programme. ^arthur

Hello, does anyone perhaps know the electric circuit diagram of the plastic shredder and extrusion machines?

1:28 PM

I already saw the graphic circuit diagram included in the starter kit but I am curious about the electric circuit diagram of those two. May be someone knows about it?

Hi everybody. I just want to ask, is anybody here knows how to simulate? like DEM, Ansys software, etc. (edited)

smarterthantheaveragebear

Been working with plastic film and bags , taking multiple layers, and fusing them into solid structures with hot sand. Not the most beautiful or precious at this point, but has potential to reutilize some of the massive amounts if scrap film waste generated . Working to create functional structures , dialing in the temps, flow rate, dimensions etc. Was heating sand on a propane grill, crock pot, and now building a PID controlled continuous feed sand heater. Running into issues, Thought I would throw it out here, as someone (Patrick McDonald) on facebooks has suggested. Thanks for reading this far Www.Plasticrete.net

I don't think that mixing plastic with sand is a good idea. Or better, I think it is one of the worsest idea I read here. You make just a non-recyclable mixture that during its life is releasing micro plastic in the enviroment and after its life have to be disposed of as inert waste in some underground storage. A lot less worse is burning it in a waste-to-energy plant to recover at least the chemical energy stored in the material. Plastic has to be recycled, not downcycled, your idea is the same of who use waste plastic as an asphalt filler.

@Eric Lotze It's the excuse I need to go to the beach. Most of the sand 95+% recovered and reused

Hey guys! Just wanted to say: awesome!!

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I was already following the one man army on socials, became a patreon today and discovered the discord community! Exciting stuff

7:51 PM

If anyone happens to work with 360 cameras, that’s my profession (more specifically building virtual tours in 3dvista / training), happy to help with that if applicable

@Eleanor Hey Eleanor check our profile and our precious plastic bazar page we will more than happy to establish whole system at ur facility DO visit https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/nb-enterprise/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_recosolution/

any indonesian?

Hello everybody! I'm new here (and to discord in general) - I visited the workshop in Eindhoven in the past and am super interested in getting more involved with the project again! Thanks.

Hello

Hello everyone, Is someone usine the updated sheet press ? Able to make 1.20m² sheets. Im having some issues with the with the 20mm sheets. Thank you

Hello everyone, been on here without talking. But I am honestly moved with all these projects in place that are trying to contribute to the environmental sustainability. I’ve been recycling plastics wastes into construction materials for 2years now. But with a couple of challenges that we are facing.-production capacity, expertise and whatnot, I am bringing on this here to ask if there is anyone up for a remote internship or partnership.

Cool @Rosette , where are you located? What kind of construction materials are you making?

Joseph

Cool @Rosette , where are you located? What kind of construction materials are you making?

I am located in Kigali,Rwanda -Africa

Rosette

I am located in Kigali,Rwanda -Africa

I make paving bricks

That's a cool idea... I also had this one. Where are you on your project?

3:11 PM

Are you already creating the pavings?

hi everyone, im new! is there a map of local centres available anywhere?

Not a phone but still interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFrJcjCbCA8

Adam Savage’s Tested

Hands-On with Framework's Fully Modular Laptop!

alexak

Are you already creating the pavings?

Yes, been almost two years

hey @Precious Plastic, im trying to add our community space pin on the map, we have 13 stars in the Ally, and i check the boxes but it still wont let me add to the map. Please help! PS. Our new PP machines arrive in 10 days - s oexciting!

5:21 AM

ignore me, i figured it out.

@Precious Plastic Is it still possible to login to the old site where we could send a message to other pins on the map? Im trying to find the original message i sent to other PP people to start a community point

i found it too, wasnt easy, but success.

who/where do i report scammers/bots from this server dmming me?

Maybe in feedback? For anyone else, be aware, @Deleted User is a scammer/bot. Don't click any links, do not join any groups. No one is going to give you free crypto. Don't trust any of their "expert investment advice" or "offers". Stay frosty

user banned, if it ever happens again, ping a moderator using "@" @👮Moderator or dm (edited)

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@Precious Plastic Can I ask in relation to your extrusion pro, how many plastic beams can it produce in a day with a length of 2 meters using HDPE only? (edited)

@here mods might want to know that one of your users is possibly spamming other users with unrelated & unsolicited propositions, possibly bot. Got a message from one and only common server was this one.

just read above about pinging mods my bad lol.

12:07 AM

@👮Moderator the one I got was from Panera2070 regarding Dogecoin

@Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug Can I ask in relation to your extrusion pro, how many plastic beams can it produce in a day with a length of 2 meters using HDPE only?

Asuna_NFT

@Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug Can I ask in relation to your extrusion pro, how many plastic beams can it produce in a day with a length of 2 meters using HDPE only?

i dont have a pro machine, but my capacity for my v3 extrusion with upgraded screw is more like 2kg/hour

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

i dont have a pro machine, but my capacity for my v3 extrusion with upgraded screw is more like 2kg/hour

I see. Thank you!

Hello everyone, I’m a small plastic recycler if anyone needs hdpe, ldpe, pp, Regrind or virgin pellets let me know thanks and keep up the good work!

Hi Matty can u send more details.

Hi all, I am new to this forum and to this community. I come from Sensorica land, in peace... We have a new open hardware project, which is essentially an extruder for processing food, village scale. I would like to ask a few questions to people here that have worked on the plastic extruder, people with mechanical / CAD skills, and also see if they desire to collaborate with us, to remix designs. I already see many benefits for the One Army community from this collaboration and we can also explore building formal bridges between Sensorica and One Army. Where can we have these discussions? Here is more about our project. https://www.sensorica.co/projects/food-and-agriculture/leaves-blender

peer into the future - Leaves blender

Objectives

Hi all. My name is Daniel from Germany. Any germans here too :)?

Daniel E.

Hi all. My name is Daniel from Germany. Any germans here too :)?

Hi Daniel, yes, i am

5:55 AM

10 chairs all made of PP

Hey team! We’ve just found out we’ve been accepted to the Circle Awards: These awards are for organisations adopting circular practices & inspiring change in Aus/NZ. The people’s choice award requires votes, so we’re hoping you could help by sharing the voting link - to win this would be absolutely massive for our PP branch! I’ll link you below in case you can help out! Piers - PPM https://bit.ly/3eRIYC1

The Circle Awards 2021 - Voting List

Do your part to save our planet. There is no plan b I want to put this on the wall of my childhood home So that everyone in the neighbours can see it Is that written correctly ? Or do you have a better sentence that I could write?

Hi, I don't know if this is the right chat or not but I got this message last night and it says that this is the server we have in common. These bots might be something to look out for.

@Reactive_Gold pls don't join those are ponzi schemes

Oh I won't

11:35 AM

I know they are a scam

11:35 AM

I just thought the server should be aware that bots are joining it seems

@Reactive_Gold thank you, user banned

No problem

11:37 AM

There might be more though. They usually come in waves

yeah, the issue with having no entry controls

11:38 AM

but if you do have them it prevents people from joining blobcatgooglyshrug

Hi, i am a student studying engineering and our group is doing a project on the use of the precious plastic brick for low cost housing and i was wondering if anyone has the dimension of the triple brick and or any specification such as load capabilities etc. Thanks

Hello All, I am new to this community and i also wish to involve more. I am from Roumania and I new some extra information, is this the right place to ask the information or i need to post in other place? Thank you for your help.

2:06 PM

For start i am working to lunch my local web page and until i have my own products, pictures, presentations and my own campaigns can i publish as publicity some posts made by you?

2:07 PM

i refer here as a member of Precious Plastic.

We need a How-To on this mobile unit, ASAP.

https://discordapp.com/channels/586676777334865928/842874336494485574/843740756995997697 https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/842874336494485574/843740756995997697 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842874336494485574/843740754021974016/MPMA-Green-Truck-4.jpg

A whole bunch of work

I've thought about it before, but I figured you would need something the size of an 18-wheeler or a bus for it to be practical. I guess not. Very interesting.

just depends what you define as practical I guess

3:39 PM

for doing small stuff, you don't need much

In under-developed regions, where community outreach is important to get projects off the ground, and electricity supply is a problem, being mobile is almost non-optional. Sometimes less is more. But, as always, the first consideration is the cost versus the long-term benefit. Still: add, some inflatable tents like the example below for temporary workspace, and I think they're onto something. http://royal-tent.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/inflatable7.png

Hi all, I’m considering making furniture out of recycled plastic for a school project, I would love advice on the best plastic I could use without all the special equipment ?

LouieMitchell

Hi all, I’m considering making furniture out of recycled plastic for a school project, I would love advice on the best plastic I could use without all the special equipment ?

pp or hpde depending on what material you can find

Okay thanks do you know what kind of products already include pp plastic as I know most plastic bottle lids are hdpe ?

most common one i can think of are plastic glasses/takeout containers and plastic bags

5:39 PM

unfortunately all of these products are also regularly made out of other materials

5:39 PM

so your best guess would be to use plastic from milk cans/jugs

5:40 PM

as it is almost always hdpe

Okay thanks for the information, I heard something about being able to recycle masks and create them into other products is this something you need special equipment for ?

LouieMitchell

Okay thanks for the information, I heard something about being able to recycle masks and create them into other products is this something you need special equipment for ?

not really just a shredder and an extruder/sheet press or any other way of making the product

5:45 PM

this too has the problem that while most masks are made fully out of pp,some have cotton or polyester inner layers while others have acrylic/pvc/hpde,etc support layers

5:46 PM

depending on what masks your recycling

Okay good to know thanks for the information

https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888903994376201/842856573474701322

5:48 PM

this is a image somebody had posted earlier

5:49 PM

so this might be helpful

5:52 PM

the main thing is while surgical masks and n95/k95 masks are often made of pp some masks like these https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/AP21041559617658.jpg?resize=770%2C513

5:53 PM

have a top[blue] layer made of polyester and an inner hard support material which could be made of different materials

5:55 PM

so if you want to try recycling masks id suggest sticking to the surgical and n95/k95 masks as theyre simple to recycle and almost always made of the same materials

Okay I’ll be sure to give it a go, thanks for the help

@Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto Ah nice. Hast du.vllt ein paar Tipps? Bin noch auf der suche nach einer günstigen schreddermöglichkeit für plastik - speziell flaschendeckel.

please kick @Deleted User it is sending ads as PN

^^yeah i was wondering if others noticed thay

1:23 AM

it's pretty sketchy

anyone build or buy the extrusion machine? I am looking to build one.

I got another one @Nick - PP France

@👮Moderator looks like were being raided

Synnoda

anyone build or buy the extrusion machine? I am looking to build one.

Where are you located? Have you checked the Bazar for anyone in your general region?

Jackaroo

@👮Moderator looks like were being raided

Noted thank you.

CitSciWorkshop

Where are you located? Have you checked the Bazar for anyone in your general region?

no. I live in NC.

2:58 AM

Where is the bazar?

Synnoda

Where is the bazar?

Bazar.preciousplastic.com

@CitSciWorkshop looks like its @Deleted User 440806bb for now

2:59 AM

more may join later

CitSciWorkshop

Where are you located? Have you checked the Bazar for anyone in your general region?

can it do rubber too? (edited)

What do you mean?

Oof there's more crypto bots in here

3:02 AM

@/Lukeg007#1948

CitSciWorkshop

What do you mean?

im looking to extrude rubber to make a car seal

That would be a novel use case for Precious Pastic machines as far as I know. (edited)

pp?

Edited :)

ahhh

3:07 AM

what kind of rubber can it do?

I mean I haven't heard of anyone trying it yet.

ahhh ok

3:08 AM

thanks! (edited)

No problem, you could be the pioneer! :)

for the price and budget i have, cant really take that chance sadly.

I'm sure there are lots of considerations and research before trying a test. Compare and contrasting known processes and methods for recycling each would be a good place to start.

I keep getting spam from this server's users

is there something I can set in discord to avoid this so I don't have to leave the server

mordhau5

I keep getting spam from this server's users

is there something I can set in discord to avoid this so I don't have to leave the server

In settings there is a way to only accept messages from users that you've added as friends. I believe the v4 team is also aware of thesituation.

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All we can do is ban them on notice, so please report them by mentioning or DM moderators

Hello there I find you guys very interesting

has anyone tried using a machine like this for making plastic pelllets?

1:33 PM

Synnoda

what kind of rubber can it do?

from what i understand, rubbers are usually thermosets. basically you can process thermoplastics with PP machines..

@CitSciWorkshop spammer dm

4:55 PM

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Thibaultmol

@CitSciWorkshop spammer dm

please @ them in #deleted-channel if you don't mind?

7:55 PM

Can ise this to cut bottle caps?

@👮Moderator

why is some random person trying to sell me crypto

8:21 PM

@👮Moderator

Hello

, we're doing our best to sort this situation out, just so you know. Not only by banning users but also by trying other means to deal with the influx of spam accounts.

ive had it too @Deleted User is the spam @👮Moderator

8:34 PM

try adding a clich the checkbox to join that usally helps

8:34 PM

and lock them in a private channel with only them and mods untill box clicked

(Just so you know, moderators are just moderators, we don't have admin rights on the server to do this kind of things ourselves. But we're discussing it with the OA-staff. May be wise to tell that in #deleted-channel )

works on our server, ok

Ley Klussyn

(Just so you know, moderators are just moderators, we don't have admin rights on the server to do this kind of things ourselves. But we're discussing it with the OA-staff. May be wise to tell that in #deleted-channel )

done

Hello, does anyone know of any licensing that we would need to do if we starting an extrusion line?

@bigcatz

https://preciousplastic.com/about/open-source.html (edited)

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This would be at our college to recycle our 3D printer waste and then maybe other stuff later. In IL.

Ley Klussyn

@bigcatz

https://preciousplastic.com/about/open-source.html (edited)

I'm looking for any licensing from local municipalities that we'd have to get to run our line.

bigcatz

I'm looking for any licensing from local municipalities that we'd have to get to run our line.

I'm in Europe, so I don't know US laws. Maybe you could ask the community over #🍔north-america ?

OK. Thanks.

Hi, I am searching for a place where I can build a plastic mall for my electronic (trumpet-like) instrument, and use recycled material and machines to melt. Anybody can help me with that in the netherlands? https://flyingfishx.wordpress.com/

(geen titel)

Hi friends, I've entered a contest to try and get the capital to fund the purchase of some precious plastic machinery. If you don't mind can you vote for me here: https://orbiiit.com/contest/22/entry/15667 (edited)

Orbiiit - The world of Talent, Fans & Brands

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Hello Team, I am looking for a mastar degree for recycling. I would like to know your opinions about the a good university or country to try. Thank you guys!

Hello there!

5:58 AM

It’s been a while

5:58 AM

Hope you’re well

felipeherreramoreno

Hello Team, I am looking for a mastar degree for recycling. I would like to know your opinions about the a good university or country to try. Thank you guys!

i did my masters degree in sustainable design at kingston university in london i found the course very good we were able to explore any field or interest we desired, might be worth checking out. the tutor paul micklethwaite also wrote a book which was released recently called 'beyond recyling'

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danny bling bling

i did my masters degree in sustainable design at kingston university in london i found the course very good we were able to explore any field or interest we desired, might be worth checking out. the tutor paul micklethwaite also wrote a book which was released recently called 'beyond recyling'

Thank you so much. I Am from Colombia. We are far away from develop recycling countries. I believe the best way to grow Recycling here, is to adapt models that work already in Similar countries. I will keep looking forward. Thank you !

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MikeP

used /dogfact

The Labrador Retriever has been the most popular dog breed since 1991.

hi

Hi from Colombia, really happy whit our new Shredder

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Hey has anyone seen this ad on YouTube of a clothing designer who upcycles clothes? I've been looking for it and I can't find it.

Is melting HDPE dangerous?

iirc it's the easiest plastic to work with (in terms of safety) as it doesn't produce any fumes

12:00 PM

(I might be wrong. But I think it's correct)

It can produce some fumes but nowhere near as much as other plastics, and not as toxic

Hello everyone It's Abdullah from Ethiopia, and I'm really interested in your works. Super proud of you brother keep up doing the great job! From the first day I've started w and we need more advanced technological devices.

Hello, first of all I would like to say thank you, as I think the idea behind the Precious-Plastic concept is super awesome.... I am in the process of developing a new product and would like to make as many parts of it as possible from sustainable materials. It's about a simple housing as known from the analog disposable cameras. I am now looking for a factory or people who can produce such housings from recycled plastic. We want to turn disposable cameras into reusable ones

It would be great if you could help me or give me contacts of people who have ideas for this. If you have any further questions, feel free to contact me....

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what would be faster injection molding or punching/die-cutting of plastic?

sponsoons

what would be faster injection molding or punching/die-cutting of plastic?

That depends on the money put into the tooling and the machine size as well as the design of the part. Consider a multi cavity mould lets say 25 parts and a 25 sec cycle time, so 1 second per part. A stamping could also produce a flat part, but most plastic parts are designed with ribs and feautures which are not flat. However if the part is flat through the stamping process then it depends on press speed and the shape of the vlank or coil of material. Bread tags for example might be stamped at a tate of 60 strokes a minute also achieving a 1 sec per part cycle time, but in comparison this cycle time is not a multi output tool but a "one off". Few plastic parts are suitable for stamping with the exception of shims and parts that can be heated and processed after blanking out a shape. So when also considering cost per number of parts for a simple flat part Stamping would likely be faster and more economical as you dont have to heat the plastic etc.

Hello, i'm starting to use a injection machine but i still don't know how to do it right. Is there a guide online where i can learn how to inject? or if someone could please answere me this 2 questions: what's the right temperature to melt plastic 5 (PP)? and second, how long do i have to wait for the plastic to melt before i inject? please help

between 180 and 200 ºC

2:46 AM

it depends on your machine

2:47 AM

but you can press slowly and feel the material

how long do you wait for the plastic to melt befor you inject?

i've never used this type of machine

ok thanks man

do some tests

2:50 AM

start with 30 secods

2:51 AM

you can hear the plastic

2:51 AM

if start to have bubbles, its too much time

ok i'll do some tests

PP is very good to start

it's normal if smokes starts to come out of the machine because of the melted plastic?

yes

2:56 AM

but is better if you avoid it

2:56 AM

you can dry pefore put on machine

2:56 AM

before*

Not sure if I can post this here, the the Ellen MacArthur Foundation is having a free online event “Summit 21.” Might have useful information for anyone interested in attending virtually:

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3:30 PM

https://summit21.ellenmacarthurfoundation.org

Summit 21 - Ellen MacArthur Foundation

The circular economy is a transformation of the system, one that gives us tools to tackle climate change and biodiversity loss together, while addressing important social needs. It gives us the power to grow prosperity, jobs, and resilience while cutting greenhouse gas emissions, waste, and pollution.

@Deep RECOSOLUTION LLP Hi Surendra here

@Surendra Hey, nice to see you here.

Hi guys, hope u r doing well. I need to know how to make a simple effective way to melt plastic in compressed sheet press by electricial components which is easily available in second hand market in India.( i can't make a cartridge bars)

khadarmy

Hi guys, hope u r doing well. I need to know how to make a simple effective way to melt plastic in compressed sheet press by electricial components which is easily available in second hand market in India.( i can't make a cartridge bars)

https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/small-sheet-press/

Tim Slab

Small sheet press - Dave Hakkens

Hello I’ve been trying to find a way in which I can use an unmodified oven to create sheets of plastic. I’ve made the first version of a sheet “heat” press and it seems to - Dave Hakkens

7:59 AM

something like this might be helpful to you

8:03 AM

https://youtu.be/BTBds538le0

DIY Recycled Plastic Sheets with Precious Plastic Philippines

8:03 AM

or this

8:03 AM

both of these are cheaper ways to make sheets

sponsoons

https://youtu.be/BTBds538le0

this machine solves the problem of needing heaters so its easier to build

@khadarmy i believe this is the best one as it is both cheap and easy to make,second-hand /scrap you should be able to make this for under ₹5000

8:57 AM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/self-compressing-oven-mould-for-making-sheets

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/self-compressing-oven-mould-for-making-sheets

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

sponsoons

looks like the link is broken...

spiros nik

looks like the link is broken...

it works atleast for me

mm, i just reclicked for a third tie and this time it did work

Thanks for the support my frined.

Hello one army team, respect.

5:32 PM

I hope you are still recruiting

Hello friends I'm new hear and I want to start a recycling business consisting of a mix workshop would really appreciate some help

10:02 PM

*here

10:04 PM

I have entered into a start up competition and I've been selected i need to know the business aspects of it so that i can pitch my idea clearly to the jury members especially the financial part

10:05 PM

I'm from Meghalaya a state in India

MystroPolymeric

There is no channel for business but you can start your own channel and invite those who are interested, I know I am...

Wouldn't it be better to have one Business channel within PP rather than spreading out into individual channels?

A question for anyone who is supplying items wholesale to retailers. I have been contacted by someone from a community group who wants to promote one of my products to shops that are certified with this community group. The shops are all around Australia. Up until now I have been dealing with local shops so I have been able to deliver stock by hand. When supplying to retail shops as a wholesaler, am I able to pass on the freight costs to the shop as an added cost or do I have to incorporate that cost into my wholesale price?

Has anyone here tried using the sheet press for making window types of panes? I am looking into the possibility of making a green/ recycled green house, and the sheet press could potentially be interesting. Does anyone have any idea if it would work? I imagine you could have issues with uv degradation

Hello everyone ! I'm a French electronics / software engineer. I've been following the project on youtube for a while, and I would love to get involved. I'm not sure how I can help, but if you see a need in these fields, feel free to contact me

Keep up with the good work !

Emil

Has anyone here tried using the sheet press for making window types of panes? I am looking into the possibility of making a green/ recycled green house, and the sheet press could potentially be interesting. Does anyone have any idea if it would work? I imagine you could have issues with uv degradation

UV degradation is my no. 1 concern, but I think its possible

Upcycler_Simon

A question for anyone who is supplying items wholesale to retailers. I have been contacted by someone from a community group who wants to promote one of my products to shops that are certified with this community group. The shops are all around Australia. Up until now I have been dealing with local shops so I have been able to deliver stock by hand. When supplying to retail shops as a wholesaler, am I able to pass on the freight costs to the shop as an added cost or do I have to incorporate that cost into my wholesale price?

I recently had the same issue, short answer yes, you can add it to the order, eg 1000 units for XXXX plus postage. When dealing with larger orders the bigger fish don't seem to care to much about postage cost.

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Upcycler_Simon

Wouldn't it be better to have one Business channel within PP rather than spreading out into individual channels?

Yes, that could be nice... But as I understand the community is just that, Our community. If you like you can set up a channel and invite members. I am in if you are up to it. And as long as you follow Discord rules you can spearhead the conversation/channel toward a business ventures and ideas.

Emil

Has anyone here tried using the sheet press for making window types of panes? I am looking into the possibility of making a green/ recycled green house, and the sheet press could potentially be interesting. Does anyone have any idea if it would work? I imagine you could have issues with uv degradation

My idea is clear HDPE panels, pressed with non recycled granules with small awnings to block direct UV exposure but maximize natural light.

Hi

Emil

Has anyone here tried using the sheet press for making window types of panes? I am looking into the possibility of making a green/ recycled green house, and the sheet press could potentially be interesting. Does anyone have any idea if it would work? I imagine you could have issues with uv degradation

Ah, i posted about UV protection a while back on the forums. https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/dyeing-plastic/#post-152025 There's a link in the post that will bring you to a page that covers pigments and some that are good for dealing with UV. But i think the UV protection needs to be more incorporated into the plastic, not simply tossed in with flakes and melted together...so you'd need an extrusion for this to be done.

Juan Francisco Rizzato

Dyeing plastic - Dave Hakkens

Hello everyone! I was wondeting how do you dye your shredded Plastic. I mean, the most common source of plastic are plastic bottles and they are transparent (translucids). So, how do you give - Dave Hakkens

procomz

Hello everyone ! I'm a French electronics / software engineer. I've been following the project on youtube for a while, and I would love to get involved. I'm not sure how I can help, but if you see a need in these fields, feel free to contact me

Keep up with the good work !

Hi...will be very helpful to have an expert like you to help!

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Dear team, i need somebody for a interview

Hey ya'll, I just joined up to the Discord group. I've started a company developing new energy production turbomachinery, and if any of ya'll could take a looksie at my website and give me a little feedback, I'd appreciate it. I've been trying to connect with new people everywhere and get their inputs, and I'm trying to find investors at the moment too. Ya'll are doing some really rad stuff with the Precious Plastic, I really like the shredders

1:48 AM

My website is www.supercriticalsystems.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnMXH5TqqG8

Motherboard

Fungus: The Plastic of the Future

5:44 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTj0b_99cfs

TEDx Talks

Living design for local production | Eric Klarenbeek | TEDxMaastricht

hey guys, i'm new here! followed the youtube channel for awhile! im in the middle of turning an ex ambulance into a camper, planning on moving from England to Portugal in Sept!

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Freeman

hey guys, i'm new here! followed the youtube channel for awhile! im in the middle of turning an ex ambulance into a camper, planning on moving from England to Portugal in Sept!

Nice project! On the way you will probably pass through Salamanca, in that case, for the last year we have been creating MolinoLab, a space for experimentation towards self-sufficiency. https://molinolab.org You are invited to come and meet us!

Hello, someone has experience with the biopress? (section 8. Research - beyond plastic), I have some questions about the variables, because in my country I cant get some materials, in the document said that they used 15tf and variable temperature between 200 C to 280C, whats the lower values for this works?

Hey, has anyone made a sheet press big enough to make a 2.4m x 1.2m full sheet? And has anyone worked out the electrics to run off a single phase? Thanks

You would need a pretty beefy single phase for that

6:20 PM

there's a reason three phase is used for high power applications

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Hey guys, I'm in the group as I'm working on building a few precious plastic machines. However I'm noticing I'm getting my DMs spammed by bots coming from this server promoting crypto scams. Please comb users

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9:43 PM

Lukeg007#1948 is one of those spammers btw

9:43 PM

@Deleted User is another

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And @Deleted User

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Hint: disable direct messages

@👮Moderator

2:08 AM

@Deleted User

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distractable andy

Hey, has anyone made a sheet press big enough to make a 2.4m x 1.2m full sheet? And has anyone worked out the electrics to run off a single phase? Thanks

with the Pro machines you can use a VFD to convert single phase to three phase for the necessary components.

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ahoi

Rame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnMXH5TqqG8

There's a company that's doing some interesting things with mycelium in Indonesia from building material to other products. Super cool stuff https://mycl.bio/

Mycotech Lab - Mycotech

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hi all, can a new #channel be setup for #Vegan as this is also related to the work we all love to follow through recycling, both are intricately linked, with food shortages, deforestation and global warming as a results of us human, been heavily dependant ton been meat eaters. Much to discuss on this topic!

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‍♂️ moderator : i got a message and notification through Discord from Shrek le train about crypto investing !? how can i send you a copy/ printscreen off the message ?

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b1tdreamer

Nice project! On the way you will probably pass through Salamanca, in that case, for the last year we have been creating MolinoLab, a space for experimentation towards self-sufficiency. https://molinolab.org You are invited to come and meet us!

I'd love to come visit

looks really interesting! do you want to send me some more details in a pm?

I'm interested in possibly helping with some video editing work if they need the help, where would I go to offer that?

A massive thank you to precious plastic for mentioning us and our USBs on this months monthly news. So stoked to be part of this community. Will be dropping our pen mould sometime soon for everyone

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Anyone from Puerto Rico in this channel?

Hello Everyone. How can I join the Project Kamp chat?

kasfex

Hello Everyone. How can I join the Project Kamp chat?

#🖐start-here :)

Want to join precious plastic chat

Nick - PP France

#🖐start-here :)

Hi Nick.Thank you for replying. I clicked on the reactions but I can't find any new chats. I am on mobile, do I have to use the desktop application?

11:25 PM

It worked the second time. Thank you Nick.

Hi, Jorne from Greentrack lebanon here, quick question, does anyone know a good formula/chemicals to clean shredded plastic? (i.e grease/oil/sand and paper wrapper and labels)

Hello All!! Hope everyone's keeping safe. Well, just how people are producing tiles/pavers from melting plastic with sand, I produced some Dumbbells. The problem i am faced is that the durability of these dumbbells aren't as good as the ones made from SS or Rubber. With time, the sand particle chipped off. Also, when throwing these dumbbells, the strength isn't that great. Any suggestions on this? Well, the objective is to use plastic waste.

@Anthonyvanvolkinburg Hello! I am a high school teacher in Indiana wanting to get my shop set up as a plastics workspace. I am reaching out to people in the surrounding area in hopes of gaining some good information about sourcing parts from this region and find out if anyone has any tips, tricks, etc. Thanks in advance for your time!

Hello from Spain! I would like to know how the logistics for this community works to set up an effective chain between several people from different places, preferably in Spain national level addition to Portugal or France that are closer to us. Im thinking about start by community/collecting in some points, then the plastic come to the workspace to be sorted and shredded and washed. After that if its possible to create products using injection sheet press or moulds and maybe create other products like 3d filament or specific parts and some art items. (edited)

Do any of you guys know about aluminum casting? I tried doing it myself with a simple setup and didnt really work so advice would be appreciated if anyone knows abt it!

Does anybody know of a good shredder option for plastics? Many of the ones I can find online are industrial scale or way too expensive to be affordable.

2:45 AM

If you do, please @ me or DM me

much appreciated

Hello everyone, I am looking to setup a shop for shredding plastic and then plan to use the shreds to make filament with if its possible. I want to 3d print items or sell the filament. I don't know if there is money to be made from selling shreds. I will be do my own plastic collection to start with. I am in UK Manchester area. Any advice or help would be appreciated (edited)

Hi guys

5:27 PM

I am looking go buy a piece of land in portugal

5:28 PM

And im curious what land to take

5:30 PM

Im wonderong if it is possible on rustic land to build a yurt and get a adress water and elektricty

Hello family I want to start making take away food packs with leafs

anyone has an idea about that ?

jaysmix

Hello everyone, I am looking to setup a shop for shredding plastic and then plan to use the shreds to make filament with if its possible. I want to 3d print items or sell the filament. I don't know if there is money to be made from selling shreds. I will be do my own plastic collection to start with. I am in UK Manchester area. Any advice or help would be appreciated (edited)

Plastic Shed are based in Stockport, may be good to speak to them

@Precious Plastic Good day! Can I ask for the extrusion time on HDPE beam mould with a dimension of 50mm x 90mm x 2000 mm? Using extrusion pro machine. Thank you! (edited)

By the way, we have computed approximately 9 kg of HDPE shredded plastics needed based on this dimension :)

Anyone know what plastics make good plastics for toys?

Hello everyone, a while ago there was an article posted by precious plastic on the extrusion pro and the beams/items it could make. I am unable to find it again and would love to have a read over it again if I could.

here it is @Zero Plastics Australia https://www.onearmy.earth/news/extrusion-machine

Ultimate guide to the Precious Plastic Extrusion machine [2021]

Learn everything about the Precious Plastic Extrusion machine and how to recycle plastic into beams and bricks.

@Hugh thank you so much! Really appreciate it

Asuna_NFT

By the way, we have computed approximately 9 kg of HDPE shredded plastics needed based on this dimension :)

You should be able to figure this out yourself. I mean, if you keep changing sizes and know how to calculate it, then there's no need to ask. 9kg product weight 20kg machine capacity per hour 9/20= 0.45 hours To convert to minutes: .45 * 60 = 27 minutes.

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Has anyone used the shredder output for cultivation of plastic-eating fungi, e.g. https://northspore.com/products/plastic-degrading-mushroom-cultures?_pos=1&_sid=d5dab8730&_ss=r

Plastic Degrading Mushroom Cultures

Cultures are made to order as agar plates or slants. We do not sell liquid culture at this time. Pestalotiopsis microspora NSPM1: Promising for bio-remediation projects, Pestalotiopsis microspora has been found able to degrade and digest polyurethane.

5:39 AM

Would love details if so - for example if everything has to go into some kind of agar gel, if selecting which plastics to use is different, etc.

Hello from Ireland. Is anybody else here doing a manufacturing project?

Dear Precious Plastic People, My name is Berni and I'm one of the founders and organiser of an inclusive summer camp for underprivileged kids and young adults "Zeltlager Baltersberg" near Ravensburg, Germany. For five years now it is our mission to bring together kids from all parts of our society and give access to those who too often are passively excluded from pedagogical programs due to their social or financial status, their religion, their heritage or physical and mental impairments. Also pedagogical concept is about being more inclusive and mindful and includes topics like gender equality, diversity, allyship and sustainability. Therefore we often invite professionals from different areas to help us with a bit (by which I mean a lot) more expertise and focus. Some time ago I discovered your organisation and I would be super interested to see if we could cooperate in a workshop or something similar. I don't know how realistic this is - besides the challenges with the current pandemic - but it never hurts to ask

The summer camp is from August 16th until August 26th in Baltersberg 1, 88285 Bodnegg, Germany. You can find some more informations on the project (so far only in german) here: https://www.baltersberg.de/#/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy6RN_F7Y_rwd-tEUj0MufQ

Zeltlager Baltersberg

9-tägige Sommerfreizeit in der Nähe von Ravensburg für 10 bis 16 Jahre. Das Zeltlager Baltersberg richtet sich an alle Kinder und Jugendlichen unabhängig von Herkunft, Religion oder Geschlecht.

Juan Guillermo Giraldo V

Hi from Colombia, really happy whit our new Shredder

Hey Juan ......nice job .... you did it yourself? My name is Viktor . Iam representing a Schuamcher institut of regenerative culture. One of programs we are starting is a recycling programs in For mountine comunites......We would like to host profeionals like you to help us built , and orgenize .....this is oppen invintation to anyone interested to come and stay with us in Valle Sagrado ,Cusco while working on excelent project involving agroreforestaion , recycling, natural mdicine and bioconstruction. We provide meals and acomodation (edited)

Hi all. I start recycling in Armenia. At now, I need sizes of all mechanic parts of shredder pro.

Anyone alive here?

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Hello Everyone. I want to shred some plastic bags into specific sized strips, and I was hoping if I could get some idea from the community. Does anybody have any suggestion on how I can achieve that?

Hello everyone! I'm Aida Márquez, I'm just have been invited

4:33 PM

Nice to chat with you all

4:34 PM

I'm really interested in the work you're doing in fixing#fashion

4:35 PM

I was wondering if there's a existing community of it around Barcelona-Spain, anyone knows? :=

4:36 PM

:)*

Just wondering if the injection machine can make similar objects to the compression machine? I want to make a stool's top but want the machine to be usable for other things too so thought the injection might be more versatile.

kaesra

Just wondering if the injection machine can make similar objects to the compression machine? I want to make a stool's top but want the machine to be usable for other things too so thought the injection might be more versatile.

The injection machine is limited in the maximum injection volume (Depends on the injection machine). For the PP-Injection maximum 130g(130cm^3), the maximum i know is 175g. I think you stool top should be thick, right?

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Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto

The injection machine is limited in the maximum injection volume (Depends on the injection machine). For the PP-Injection maximum 130g(130cm^3), the maximum i know is 175g. I think you stool top should be thick, right?

If increasing the diameter of the tube and heater could increase the possible mass of plastic? Would there be any problem with plastic melting properly?

ignaswind

If increasing the diameter of the tube and heater could increase the possible mass of plastic? Would there be any problem with plastic melting properly?

If possible it’s better to use a longer tube. Bigger diameter of the tube means more heating up time and more force ( F=pxA). With a leaver injection machine you would be on the limit. Have a look at trashpanda, he is already on the limit with his discs...

My first injection machine only holds 45 grams while my second we upgraded to be able to move 100grams. 175grams is massive.

Dlawltn

Hello Everyone. I want to shred some plastic bags into specific sized strips, and I was hoping if I could get some idea from the community. Does anybody have any suggestion on how I can achieve that?

Hello, I am currently working with plastic bags, of different types. From large tote bags to small shopping bags. i am cutting them into strips with a round blade, that is the best way i have found to process this material for recycling.

@MystroPolymeric Thx for your input. Btw does anyone have any method that can be automated? I have about 75kg of recycled plastic with me and I don't think cutting them manually will be good for my body

5:53 PM

But in the worst case I'll have to do that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE1j1BXLct4 No pressure, but this channel is making Injection Molded modular vehicle treads. Can you upvote my comment so we can try and Open Source the mold/part design?

rctestflight

Prototype Snowcat with Injection Molded Tracks!

10:54 PM

I feel like this could be a great product for makerspaces, or other people/groups with Precious Plastic Machines (edited)

Hi there, I need some help with temperature settings for the extruder. I'm currently working with PP, specifically those clear takeaway food containers. Initially, the plastic that is coming out of the extruder was liquified at 200C, so I figured to lower the temperature. I kept getting the same results until I set the temperature around 150-153C. At this point, the plastic coming out is more string-like but still not enough to hold its form. I tried lowering the temperature a bit more but now but the extruder shut down. So I tried increasing the temperature again, up to 155-190C. The extruder kept on turning but this time, no plastic is coming out at all. The temperature was eventually increased to 205C to get all the plastic out, although the plastic is still a bit more liquefied and can't hold its string-like form. What temperature setting would you recommend so that I'm able to produce a continuous line of plastic strings? Thanks in advance! (edited)

This is really stupid here. Only every 5 question is answered.

someone with an answer has to see your question blobcatgooglyshrug

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not everyone lives on here

Hello I was wondering if anyone has an idea about the LCA of bricks made from plastic waste

Looking for your questions to be answered, or seeking help to start your own recycling space. Every Friday I am available for short video calls to help get you started and answer your questions. Click the link below to arrange your call. https://calendly.com/recyclerebuild (edited)

Recycle Rebuild - Rory Dickens

Welcome to the Free Call Fridays booking page. Select a time in the window that you will be available and Rory or one of our other professionals will be available to answer any question you may have about starting or running a recycling workspace.

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@CitSciWorkshop @Nick - PP France

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Yep, got a scam dm as well

Thibaultmol

Yep, got a scam dm as well

can u put screenshot here please ? (or dm it to me)

oh it' a different guy still actually, damn

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Hi everyone.. I am from Istanbul and have just arrived

I am interested in manual plastic shredder but cheap ones. I took a look at the recommended sample with open source..help accepted

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@SofiaH definitely ! if there is already a way I hope I find it...let's see who chimes in. If not, then it's going to take some trial and error. But it's always fun discovering new things.

Have you seen this vid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwFaiSAS8k4

One Army Community

How to recycle acrylic

Where would be a good space to share a community which would love to collaborate and connect with communities such as this?

I'll just drop it here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u7tlwjsoT5JW3ffxR7jI7jT8iHNcu64TccjiI4FhUH8/edit?usp=drivesdk

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@CitSciWorkshop I will DM to @Joseph to guide me on the process

Hello! Did you get any solution for this?

Hey, is anyone aware how to register R-PET for REACH compliance?

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This time, all the bots left right after sending spam, i got one too...

oh okay

Bruh

I have gotten 2 of these this week

They are ballsy

yeah its irritaing

Please can someone please get on with sorting a server on-boarding process to prevent this? This is the only server I've ever had DM bot spam from.

yes, it's really sad, I'm leaving because of all the spam

Hi guys! We are working on the bot issue! Sorry it's been taking a little bit to figure out. These guys are professional

duplicate #🖐start-here, require roles to see one and all other channels, the other one is only for newcomers and they can't see anyone with a role

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9:21 PM

Є хто україно чси російсько мовний?

KC

Hi Is KC from Tanzania I want to know how to start the of recycling plastics bussiness

Habari KC!! Let us know if you need any help. We are in Njombe

jakeyeah.

@davehakkens I have been thinking of ideas now for a while. When I get a chance I will message you a few. Mostly around how tokens could be distributed as rewards to people who collect plastic for recycling and people who purchase recycled products. Also how a possible ICO would raise funds to take a business to the next level if wanting to go down that path. Firstly though your on the wrong Blockchain. ETH has heavy gas fees and the network takes a lot of power/electricity to run it. You want to be on a blockchain with much smaller transaction fees and lower world wide electricity cost. Something like the Binance blockchain or Tron Blockchain. I think this would be more looking to the future and more environmentally conscious. Both networks are easy create tokens and run Dapps on. If not more easy then Eth.

Hey! Has any of these ideas evolved anyhow? Would be happy to contribute

Hello, I am very confused. I want to start recycling plastic and make a living out of it, but it seems quite impossible to do so as it requires a lot of money to be able to do so. I am from Mauritius and I want to start recycling plastics to make small crafts like phone covers, skateboards, bowls etc... so as i can launch a sustainable business and so help the planet. Unfortunately, the moulds are quite expensive in my local country and it is quite impossible to fabric a mould. What can i do and what do you suggest me to do ?

@Deleted User What a way to get yeeted from a server lol

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Hello, I am very confused. I want to start recycling plastic and make a living out of it, but it seems quite impossible to do so as it requires a lot of money to be able to do so. I am from Mauritius and I want to start recycling plastics to make small crafts like phone covers, skateboards, bowls etc... so as i can launch a sustainable business and so help the planet. Unfortunately, the moulds are quite expensive in my local country and it is quite impossible to fabric a mould. What can i do and what do you suggest me to do ?

there is a Precious Plastic workshop in your country, have you spoken with them?

loving billim

Hello, I am very confused. I want to start recycling plastic and make a living out of it, but it seems quite impossible to do so as it requires a lot of money to be able to do so. I am from Mauritius and I want to start recycling plastics to make small crafts like phone covers, skateboards, bowls etc... so as i can launch a sustainable business and so help the planet. Unfortunately, the moulds are quite expensive in my local country and it is quite impossible to fabric a mould. What can i do and what do you suggest me to do ?

https://www.preciousplastic.mu/ see here

Precious Plastic Mauritius - NGO providing solutions to recycle pla...

Precious Plastic Mauritius is a non for profit organisation, providing solutions to recycle plastic waste and cleaning our beaches and mangroves

1:14 AM

Having a big problem with Facebook and getting a fundraising going here. they have shadow banned our donation post, and will not approve any ads promoting it. the ad buy is just stuck in limbo and ignored by the approval process.

1:15 AM

we are approaching 9000 followers and FB has throttled the page views to anywhere between 50-200 people,

1:15 AM

We buy ads daily as well.

1:18 AM

We get more likes and views on instagram and that is just a cross-post feature. Yet Facebook is free to all mobile phones here even without a data subscription. Just load 10 cents to a prepaid sim and facebook app is working for as long as you have any balance in your account. the monopoly on social interactions by FB

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Hey Hi everyone

I'm Gaia and I'm a jewelry designer that is looking for Packaging for her new collection, I'm based in Milan ATM. There is someone that you know might can collaborate with me or just offer his service to make sono plastic recycled packagings? Warm hug ❤️

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Hi I’m selling a sheet press in Los Angeles (includes delivery) will be listing on the bazar if anyone’s interested- please DM me!

Hi all! This summer, I would love to do volunteer work at a recycling space/workshop. I've already contacted a start-up nearby (The Hague, NL). However, they are still setting up so I’m not sure I can work there this summer. So if you need a helping hand this summer (Europe only) or maybe in the summer of 2022 (Worldwide) don’t hesitate to send me a message! Depending on the location of your workspace I ask for a residence or shredded plastics in return. Kind regards, Cathelijne

xcrystalfairyx

Hey Hi everyone

I'm Gaia and I'm a jewelry designer that is looking for Packaging for her new collection, I'm based in Milan ATM. There is someone that you know might can collaborate with me or just offer his service to make sono plastic recycled packagings? Warm hug ❤️

Se hai pazienza io sto sviluppando le macchine (sviluppando nel senso che le sto riprogettando da zero per le mie esigenze), ci vorrà del tempo. Nel mentre prova a contattare i ragazzi di Torino, su Facebook. Sinceramente sarei più propenso a produrre oggetti durevoli piuttosto che packaging, quindi sarebbe carino ideare del packaging che abbia una utilità reale oltre a contenere il prodotto per il breve tempo per cui viene venduto. Io sono a Cesena.

Hello Everyone

2:11 PM

Rookie here

2:12 PM

looking forward to chat with you all that are in the plastic recycling

Mo Abdullah

Actually i have a start up manufacturing with Egypt government and i have owned a finished factory from the government

Hey, would be good to connect to you, we are building up two workspaces in Cairo one on Maadi in FabLab and one at the Heliopolis University for Sustainable development. Let me know your current status.

xcrystalfairyx

Hey Hi everyone

I'm Gaia and I'm a jewelry designer that is looking for Packaging for her new collection, I'm based in Milan ATM. There is someone that you know might can collaborate with me or just offer his service to make sono plastic recycled packagings? Warm hug ❤️

Precious Plastic isn't really about making any thin single use packagings or single use anything really. I've seen other companies offer biodegradable packagings etc. But that might not be strong enough for jewelery which is where I say go with cardboard and make sure you use biodegradable adhesives. I can give you some names of companies/people to DM and ask abt this stuff... Just lmk

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Hi all! This summer, I would love to do volunteer work at a recycling space/workshop. I've already contacted a start-up nearby (The Hague, NL). However, they are still setting up so I’m not sure I can work there this summer. So if you need a helping hand this summer (Europe only) or maybe in the summer of 2022 (Worldwide) don’t hesitate to send me a message! Depending on the location of your workspace I ask for a residence or shredded plastics in return. Kind regards, Cathelijne

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Nice! Karibu Tanzania in 2022: Njombe Beyond

Ahh that would be awesome! Can you send me a private message?

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Hi

i know this chat is mostly about plastic, but I would like to know if someone here works with ceramic? Fixing broken objects and mix them? I'm trying to work with that and would be nice to discuss some materials and methods

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filipa

Hi

i know this chat is mostly about plastic, but I would like to know if someone here works with ceramic? Fixing broken objects and mix them? I'm trying to work with that and would be nice to discuss some materials and methods

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Look into Kintsugi https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2014/05/kintsugi-the-art-of-broken-pieces/

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Kintsugi: The Art of Broken Pieces

Kintsugi (or kintsukuroi) is a Japanese method for repairing broken ceramics with a special lacquer mixed with gold, silver, or platinum. The philosophy behind the technique is to recognize the history of the object and to visibly incorporate the repair into the new piece instead of disguising it. T

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@cath yeees! I already have done it. Do you work with ceramic? I would like to know if someone has different types of methods or techniques. I'm trying with paraloid and epoxy with sand and natural pigments

filipa

@cath yeees! I already have done it. Do you work with ceramic? I would like to know if someone has different types of methods or techniques. I'm trying with paraloid and epoxy with sand and natural pigments

No I don’t

Could I add a bank account as a payment method in the bazaar? We are in Thailand so the normal procedure for us would be to use stripe/atlas, but I see it a bit complex. If it is possible to add a bank account it would be much easier for us (edited)

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Here it's mentioned something about find another creative way but in the dashboard it just have the stripe button. Any idea about this?

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this is off topic but does anyone have any ideas how I can possibly fix it?

5:54 AM

it can be asbestos sheets

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I'm kinda broke rn

5:57 AM

I don't have a tall enough ladder for this (3 floor )

if you can't get to it you can't really fix it...

Hey all, I wanted to know if some of you have already taken part to the Precious Plastic Version 4 in Eindhoven (or previous versions). I would really like to join if there is a next version coming in the next few months. I am a plastic processing and mechanical engineer and I am really excited about working for the Precious Plastic initiative. Let me know, Ben

cath

Hi all! This summer, I would love to do volunteer work at a recycling space/workshop. I've already contacted a start-up nearby (The Hague, NL). However, they are still setting up so I’m not sure I can work there this summer. So if you need a helping hand this summer (Europe only) or maybe in the summer of 2022 (Worldwide) don’t hesitate to send me a message! Depending on the location of your workspace I ask for a residence or shredded plastics in return. Kind regards, Cathelijne

Hi Cath, please dm me

Hello there, I was wondering if FixingFashion has a location somewhere or is it an online community? (edited)

Hello everyone. I'm newbie here. I am a performance artist and was granted money to create a human statue entirely out of single use plastic. I wonder if some people could give me advice on what tools to buy to cut and shape plastics, but without trans forming them. As I want people to recognise their trash. Like the bottle of coke, or the coffee cup, or the straw, ... I'm thinking I need to buy a hot knife at least, and some heat resistant gloves, maybe a heat gun... Any advice? Thanks

gas mask, heat gun and heat knife should do the trick. You might have difficulties connecting some different polymers together though, ie :bottles (PET) with straws (PP), so some glue might be needed if heat isn't enough for fusion of different products

xcrystalfairyx

Hey Hi everyone

I'm Gaia and I'm a jewelry designer that is looking for Packaging for her new collection, I'm based in Milan ATM. There is someone that you know might can collaborate with me or just offer his service to make sono plastic recycled packagings? Warm hug ❤️

Hi Gaia! I’m a graphic designer and can help with the packaging design if that’s what you’re referring to?

Hello everyone! My name is Rebecca and I am a product designer. Hopefully I am in the right section of the group. I recently designed a collection of objects that involve the use of recycled plastic. Therefore I came across this beautiful blog and decided to pitch in because some of you might help me with the development of the project. Everything is already decided, which machines are we going to use, moulds and other technical stuff, the only thing I am missing is the plastic. I considered the option to personally go on a beach or any other place to collect some plastic, but it’s something that won’t work because I need a lot of plastic regularly in order to produce the pieces for all the customers (I am talking about a very big scale of production). I searched on the Precious Plastic’s map but nothing came up in Italy, there are only a couple of labs but none who collects plastic. Do you guys have any recommendations on where I can buy/get some plastic (possibly already shredded)? Thank you!

rebeccamauri

Hello everyone! My name is Rebecca and I am a product designer. Hopefully I am in the right section of the group. I recently designed a collection of objects that involve the use of recycled plastic. Therefore I came across this beautiful blog and decided to pitch in because some of you might help me with the development of the project. Everything is already decided, which machines are we going to use, moulds and other technical stuff, the only thing I am missing is the plastic. I considered the option to personally go on a beach or any other place to collect some plastic, but it’s something that won’t work because I need a lot of plastic regularly in order to produce the pieces for all the customers (I am talking about a very big scale of production). I searched on the Precious Plastic’s map but nothing came up in Italy, there are only a couple of labs but none who collects plastic. Do you guys have any recommendations on where I can buy/get some plastic (possibly already shredded)? Thank you!

Moin and hello Rebecca, you can check out the PP bazar, there is some shredded stuff: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/raw-material/plastic/ Or check the map and get in contact with shredder workspaces.

Raw Material :: Plastic

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it can be asbestos sheets

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Fixed.

rebeccamauri

Hello everyone! My name is Rebecca and I am a product designer. Hopefully I am in the right section of the group. I recently designed a collection of objects that involve the use of recycled plastic. Therefore I came across this beautiful blog and decided to pitch in because some of you might help me with the development of the project. Everything is already decided, which machines are we going to use, moulds and other technical stuff, the only thing I am missing is the plastic. I considered the option to personally go on a beach or any other place to collect some plastic, but it’s something that won’t work because I need a lot of plastic regularly in order to produce the pieces for all the customers (I am talking about a very big scale of production). I searched on the Precious Plastic’s map but nothing came up in Italy, there are only a couple of labs but none who collects plastic. Do you guys have any recommendations on where I can buy/get some plastic (possibly already shredded)? Thank you!

Io sto finendo il trituratore, sono a Cesena. Bisogna mettere in piedi una rete per ottenerla dalle persone, andare nelle spiagge a prenderla è un rischio (siamo in Italia) e comporta un gran lavoro sia logistico che di lavaggio, o ti focalizzi su quello o è bene recuperarla direttamente da chi la butterebbe. Se trovi una fonte e sei in zona possiamo ragionare sulla triturazione.

Good day everyone! :) Is anyone here knows and well versed to Qform VX Software?

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

Io sto finendo il trituratore, sono a Cesena. Bisogna mettere in piedi una rete per ottenerla dalle persone, andare nelle spiagge a prenderla è un rischio (siamo in Italia) e comporta un gran lavoro sia logistico che di lavaggio, o ti focalizzi su quello o è bene recuperarla direttamente da chi la butterebbe. Se trovi una fonte e sei in zona possiamo ragionare sulla triturazione.

Ciao, ho cercato informazioni per quanto riguarda la raccolta della plastica nella mia regione. Sono di Torino e mi è stato detto dal assessorato regionale che si occupa di rifiuti che è vietato raccogliere plastica per conto proprio. Mi spiego finché si raccoglie plastica abbandonata il problema non sussiste a meno che non si raccolgono grandi quantitativi. Mentre per esempio in molti posti ci sono dei bidoni dove vengono raccolti solo tappi di hdpe, questo mi è stato detto che è vietato per legge e si può andare incontro a sanzioni penali.

11:59 AM

Io ho costruito un trituratore e per ora raccolgo plastica tra i miei parenti e conoscenti. Mi piacerebbe avere qualche info sulla vostra idea. Cosa fate? Avete in mente qualche prodotto da lanciare sul mercato e se si come vi comportate per poterlo vendere?

Allora, per il momento io sto raccogliendo plastica nello stesso modo, e aggiungo anche gli imballaggi degli utensili che usiamo nell' officina dove lavoro. Il fatto che sia vietato non mi risulta, se tra privati c'è una donazione di oggetti che non si usano questi non sono ancora entrati nel ciclo dei rifiuti. È ovviamente necessario avere i permessi per lavorare nell'ambito dello smaltimento rifiuti, ma c'è una linea di demarcazione chiara su quando un oggetto diventa rifiuto. Esempio, se cerchi un elettrodomestico lo puoi trovare usato da privati, non è un rifiuto. Ma non puoi andare in un centro raccolta materiali istituzionale e prelevare ciò che ti serve, perché una volta lì è soggetto alle normative per lo smaltimento. Io al momento sto costruendo le macchine. In futuro c'è l'idea di produrre oggettistica tipo sottobicchieri, posacenere e cose simili per i locali della zona, ma è ancora solo un progetto. Sto facendo le macchine nell'officina in cui lavoro, dopo le 8 ore di lavoro e solo nel caso in cui le macchine utensili su cui lavoro sono "libere" dalla produzione, quindi sto andando avanti in modo discontinuo e poco prevedibile.

Bho la cosa è molto confusa. Certo è che se le quantità sono minime nessuno potrà mai dire niente ma da quanto ho capito non è possibile raccogliere rifiuti di altri. Mi è stato detto che tutti i rifiuti devono essere prelevati esclusivamente dal consorzio che ha in gestione la raccolta. Da come mi dici tu posso intuire che se vado a prelevare i rifiuti che mi servono (tappi) direttamente dai sacchi che le persone mettono fuori casa non faccio niente di illegale perché non sono ancora entrati nel ciclo dei rifiuti? A me è stato detto che è assolutamente vietato andare a rovistare nei cassonetti x esempio o nei sacchi lasciati fuori dalle abitazioni

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Altro problema, come posso mettere in commercio dei prodotti fatti artigianalmente e in materiale riciclato? Non ho ancora avuto nessun chiarimento su questo. Certi mi dicono che in base ai prodotti che si creano ci sono degli standard da rispettare, e questo mi sembra ovvio per alcuni tipi di oggetti ma per quelli più semplici come i sottobicchieri come ci si deve comportare?

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Hey all, I wanted to know if some of you have already taken part to the Precious Plastic Version 4 in Eindhoven (or previous versions). I would really like to join if there is a next version coming in the next few months. I am a plastic processing and mechanical engineer and I am really excited about working for the Precious Plastic initiative. Let me know, Ben

Hi Ben I'm not on their team but I know from their YouTube channel that they had to leave their space in Eindhoven due to something found in the structure and because of covid it's been pretty rough. I know some of the people that were in Eindhoven moved to a much much smaller place and you can find all the details in the videos they made. Right now Dave is working on Project Kamp if that helps in any way... Lmk if you have any other questions

Thatch

Hello there, I was wondering if FixingFashion has a location somewhere or is it an online community? (edited)

Right now Fixing Fashion is an online community and they're basically sort of watching where the people take it. If you follow some of the videos at home you can make an Instagram post and # it with the fixing fashion # and they might repost it on their page. You can also join the fixing fashion channels.

Hi everyone. Do you know any readily available additive one can add to plastic lumber mixture to give it a. Strength b. Fire resistance ability? while using an equal measure of hope and ldpe? Your response will be highly appreciated! Thanks.

Is there anyone in Beijing China? （I hope I'm not the only one ）I have been paying attention to this project for a long long time, from PP to one-army. I made a compressor with my friends 2018 in Beijing. But I haven't been able to find anyone else who also interested. BTW I used to run a Fablab in Beijing also, but unfortunately it was shut down since the pandemic . I hope to find some friends nearby

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Hi, does Precious Plastic have any courses? Not youtube videos, i mean presencial courses where people can expriment with the machines and do our own designs?

Dear Community, I am part of an NGO setting up workshops in the context of the refugee crisis and gathered my experience of PP during the development of V4. For our recent project Re.Works in Ioannina, Greece in cooperation with the makerspace Habibi.Works (https://habibi.works/) we are still looking for a coordinator. Re.Works is a project focusing on using recycled plastic as a material for the creation of daily needed products together with and for refugees. Inside of a shipping container, it is an fully equiped Precious Plastic workspace with many possibilities. The container is placed on the property of Habibi.Works and has by that full access to their workshops. As this project is fairly new, you have the responsibility and possibillity to set up an workspace really helping people on a daily base. What we are looking for:

You have min. 1 month time, better more
Experiences in working with Precious Plastic
Able to work independently
Ready to work and communicate with people from diverse cultural backgrounds
Ability to develop new products together with beneficiaries and come up with exciting new techniques What we are offering:
Included in the daily meals (Breakfast & Lunch)
A place to stay in the volunteer home of Habibi.Works
A new exciting project, which offers many ways to go
Full support from an experienced team
An openminded team of volunteers When & Where:
You can start as soon as possible for you (even help finish setting it up)
You can stay from a minimum of one month up to long term (possibillity even for a samll compensation as commited long term volunteer)
Placed in Katsika, Epirus, Greece right opposite the refugee camp
Living in the student city of Ioannina, Greece with a young, vibrand life and a beautiful mountain view If we could catch your interest please contact me with a few details about yourself.

Either on Discord or write me a message at +4915756020984 or louis@notforyourdistinction.org Louis

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/basics

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hello everyone! i'm new here and i need PP's contact because i have an idea about recicling plastic in Mozambique but i need to talk with somebody to understand if is possible to do something or not. Who can help me please?! will be wonderfull.

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thanks all.

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hello everyone! i'm new here and i need PP's contact because i have an idea about recicling plastic in Mozambique but i need to talk with somebody to understand if is possible to do something or not. Who can help me please?! will be wonderfull.

Here in Beira, we already have some plastic waste collection points for recycling, however I don't know about this project.http://www.associacao-mocambicana-reciclagem.org/ It would be interesting to have a plastic waste transformation project that would bring some return to the population that was not merely financial due to the packaging collected around the city.

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Here in Beira, we already have some plastic waste collection points for recycling, however I don't know about this project.http://www.associacao-mocambicana-reciclagem.org/ It would be interesting to have a plastic waste transformation project that would bring some return to the population that was not merely financial due to the packaging collected around the city.

thanks a lot!!! i'm reading about it let's keep in tach!!!!!

Hi There, does anyone know the effects of using the Precious Plastic systems on ABS plastics (plastic from printers for example).

Hello I am building a press machine to creat hdpe sheets of plastic. I am wondering if anyone in the community has tried lasercutting it. If so how well does it work?

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Joseph and his team are in Nigeria for installation of sheetpress

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Hi everyone I am trying to learn if there is anybody in Brasil involved with PP

I love all the inspiring projects and good work of you all and One Army! Thanks for letting me be a part of it and keep up the amazing work!

Hellou! Mexico Here! PP workshop and colecction point I dunno why but I just disvover the #fixingfashion how can help me with some insights ?

Is there any contact or support email from precious plastic? it's about the bazaar

Bazar@preciousplastic.com

Joseph

Bazar@preciousplastic.com

Thanks

Hello everybody

My name is Murilo, I'm Brazilian, speaking from Stockholm and trying to bootstrap a community-point and mixed workshop at an artist collective in the heart of the city. Slow and steady things are moving forward

http://www.becomingprecious.com/ I hope to pin it on the map as soon as there are more concrete things happening

Becoming Precious

Becoming Precious is a container at Frihamnstorget, Precious Plastic incubator and Creative Technology Studio.

Hey everyone, I’m actually a PhD psychology student from the UK.. but I’m so passionate about finding ways to dealing with our plastic problem.. Iv been contemplating around how I can corporate it in my business. Finally, I have started collecting HDPE 2, locally in Bedfordshire, UK. Not sure how it will go. But I’m definitely excited about the journey!!! If there are others from Bedfordshire/ south east England or even UK please give me a shout! I will definitely pin this on once it takes off a little bit. Meanwhile if you want to know more about it check out; https://www.instagram.com/p/CQ05yX7LiD8/?utm_medium=copy_link

HI Guys, I need a bit of help. I'm sure I'm not the first person to have this issue: I have my stripe account linked to my bazar seller profile. But Stipe has blocked my payouts because they want me to verify that i own "bazar.preciousplastic.com", But I don't obviously. I contacted Stripe and they said I must have a "team member" with an @prescousplastic.com email address. I have emailed bazar@presciousplastic a few times, but they seem to ignore me. I would like to know how other seller got around this problem? Thanks guys (edited)

skaapvisagie

HI Guys, I need a bit of help. I'm sure I'm not the first person to have this issue: I have my stripe account linked to my bazar seller profile. But Stipe has blocked my payouts because they want me to verify that i own "bazar.preciousplastic.com", But I don't obviously. I contacted Stripe and they said I must have a "team member" with an @prescousplastic.com email address. I have emailed bazar@presciousplastic a few times, but they seem to ignore me. I would like to know how other seller got around this problem? Thanks guys (edited)

try sending a private message on discord to @Joseph (left click on his name, and type your message), hopefully, they should be able to come back to you quickly

Nick - PP France

try sending a private message on discord to @Joseph (left click on his name, and type your message), hopefully, they should be able to come back to you quickly

awesome! Thanks so much!

Hi Everybody! ✌️ For a while I got fascinated by compliant mechanisms. I bought a book about the planning and I have an idea about a keyring toy, which I would like to manufacture by extrusion. In first round I will plan the product and make 3d printed versions of it. The tricky part in flexible mechanisms is that, the geometry can not be separated from the material properties. Usually we chose the material first, and then we calculate and experiment the dimensions. In my case this will maybe cause a problem, because the 3d printed material have different properties, then the extruded one. So the 3d prototyping maybe can give a blurred picture about the working of my device, but it will not be the same. Making an extrusion tool is not simple and cheap. So my only chance is to refine the model to handle the material change and make an appropriate guess about the properties of extruded plastic. This is the first thing that I need your help. Furthermore I need a good buisness model, because I believe plastic recycling is not only can help the environment, It can be a good source of income. (After investing, experimenting.) I am total new to this area and I would gladly talk with some experienced people, who can show the path for starting. I will take any advice and help gratefully. Thanks in advance, Mátyás

skaapvisagie

HI Guys, I need a bit of help. I'm sure I'm not the first person to have this issue: I have my stripe account linked to my bazar seller profile. But Stipe has blocked my payouts because they want me to verify that i own "bazar.preciousplastic.com", But I don't obviously. I contacted Stripe and they said I must have a "team member" with an @prescousplastic.com email address. I have emailed bazar@presciousplastic a few times, but they seem to ignore me. I would like to know how other seller got around this problem? Thanks guys (edited)

Hello my friend . This is a very strange problem that I haven't heard of before. Can you screenshot what stripe is saying to you and email me at Joseph@onearmy.earth

Joseph

Hello my friend . This is a very strange problem that I haven't heard of before. Can you screenshot what stripe is saying to you and email me at Joseph@onearmy.earth

I will do that. I will also forward you the emails so you can see. Thanks

Btw I just added you to the Bazar sellers channel

9:41 PM

You can ask this question there if someone else has had this problem

Thank you so much!

@Joseph , can you dm me? It's Sibele Cestari

Hi all, I have just been binge watching these videos and am interested in learning more . My first question is this. What is the best temperature for melting HDPE ? It seems to be a very thick consistency like we say in the states it flows like molasses in winter time. also , is it ok to mix all HDPE even though as I understand it exact chemical formulas differ? Thankyou in advance to anyone who helps a newbie.

Hey Dano, HDPE temps vary a little depending on your machine setup. However there is a great PDF/image in one of the download kits.

2:11 AM

Post-scarcity Ingredients (Project Aurora)

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

2:11 AM

Halfway down that page

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Hi guys! Is there a channel that we can discuss specifically project kamp projects/problems/solutions?

#🖐start-here

hi guys who knows with are the best options to make mold for injection? i know aluminium in the best but is too expensive for me

xcrystalfairyx

hi guys who knows with are the best options to make mold for injection? i know aluminium in the best but is too expensive for me

What is you product. If you have a big surface area you have to use aluminium or steel, cause of the big forces you have (F=pxA). For small objects 3D-printed moulds are possible, but not for many parts: https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/783423267821584416/826102155831672832

xcrystalfairyx

hi guys who knows with are the best options to make mold for injection? i know aluminium in the best but is too expensive for me

Also have a look to this chart in this great document from @Fritz @easymoulds: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/create/injection-moulds

Has anyone used stripe / atlas and paid the setup fee? Is it possible to join 2 or more businesses and use a single stripe account?

Hi good day! Im noriel from the Philippines! Im planning to recycle plastic to make bricks, to build home for the poor, unfortunately im low on budget, planning to make my own molde, can anyone please send me a picture of the lower part of the brick so I have an idea how to put it together with the upper part design? Thank you very much! God bless us all!

Hi guys, is this the place to chat about Project Kamp? I'm asking because I have a few ideas and suggestions on the development aspect in the long-run and thought I might share it her in case anyone might find any value in it. (edited)

@Ziad #🖐start-here

erm...when i click on Project Kamp there it offers me the option to get Nitro and it's a paid service apparently. I don't have any other option apparently.

I don't understand why that happens thonk2

ok, i'm gona post the document related to a development plan I'm working here right away then and let you guys offer your feedback if you have any (edited)

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https://tinyurl.com/end-scarcity (edited)

E F F I C I E N C Y A C C E S S I N G E N U I T Y R E S I L I E N C E R E S P O N S I V I T Y H U M A N - C E N T R I C R E S O U R C E - B A S E D P R O J E C T A U R O R A B A B Y S T E P S T O W A R D S R E J U V E N A T I V E U N I V E R S ...

3:40 PM

it's about setting up a new system rethought from ground up so as to become progressively independent from the state and the monetary system itself which is the main of toxic behavior among us, be it socially or environmentally

Rory - Sustainable Design Studio

Hey Dano, HDPE temps vary a little depending on your machine setup. However there is a great PDF/image in one of the download kits.

Thanks Rory. 120-280 degrees is a pretty large range I'm mainly interested in learning if I can safely heat hdpe into a fairly free flowing liquid.My ideas are probably a bit grandiose at the moment but if your gonna try something new whynot try something big in concept anyway. One of my ideas I found has been tried and successfully done by a non recycling large corporation. I just want to scale production down so production can be moved from city to city in 2nd and 3rd world countries. anyway my idea hinges on the plastic being able to poor freely almost like pancake batter. Injetion molding and pressure is ok I can figure those problems out but I need a pourable resin. Well can you enlighten me? Have a great day and thanks to anyone who can help me learn safely.

Hmmm . . . The biggest catch I see to that is the possibility of the plastic rapidly degrading and maybe turning into a different compound all together from this process. A good example is the tempering process and the old forging process of steel or iron. In forging the red hot metal oxidizes extremely fast and you lose almost half of the original material just hacking off the oxidized part to reach the usable stuff. That's the main issues I see with this. But if you want to process large amounts of Plastic in a manor similar to steel Mills then I suggest looking at how they do it. That uses a furnace and couldren to make the metel molten and then pour it into molds.

3:13 AM

Hmmmm . . . . . A solar powered furnace might actually be helpful here.

Selling a hugely discounted sheet press in Los Angeles please contact me ASAP if interested

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Sent you a DM @SecondActPlasticLA

Hi everybody

10:28 PM

I would like to meet up with dave hakkens

10:28 PM

Could anybody bring me in contact with him

10:29 PM

I live in the netherlands

10:30 PM

I would love to get in contact with someone that can program react.js

10:31 PM

And is up for a life changing thing

10:31 PM

Email me stage5movies@gmail.com

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Is someone could help contact please and dave if you see this please contact me

My life changes every day lol

Hey everyone! Some of you might know me, I’m Matthew, I setup a small workspace in West Cork, Ireland back in 2020 with an injection machine and shredder. You can check out my instagram - @preciousplasticcork. Anyway, I am going into my final year of undergrad product design and I am currently seeking problem areas for my final design project. I would love to do something with plastic recycling as I have a lot of experience with that. One problem area I have been looking into is plastic upcycling can be quite inaccessible for a lot of people. Especially those who would not have access to machinery/funding/space for precious plastic machines. I am thinking of people who live in small apartments and want to recycle on a small scale that is safe and user friendly. However, this is just one problem area and I know there are many more. I would love to create some sort of open source machine/system that embodies what precious plastic is all about: The People!! If you have any suggestions on current problems please let me know, It would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks!

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PreciousPlasticCork

Hey everyone! Some of you might know me, I’m Matthew, I setup a small workspace in West Cork, Ireland back in 2020 with an injection machine and shredder. You can check out my instagram - @preciousplasticcork. Anyway, I am going into my final year of undergrad product design and I am currently seeking problem areas for my final design project. I would love to do something with plastic recycling as I have a lot of experience with that. One problem area I have been looking into is plastic upcycling can be quite inaccessible for a lot of people. Especially those who would not have access to machinery/funding/space for precious plastic machines. I am thinking of people who live in small apartments and want to recycle on a small scale that is safe and user friendly. However, this is just one problem area and I know there are many more. I would love to create some sort of open source machine/system that embodies what precious plastic is all about: The People!! If you have any suggestions on current problems please let me know, It would be greatly appreciated! Many thanks!

a sturdier or better micro injection molding machine or just miniaturized versions of most commercial machines would be quite good

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1:59 PM

or even just small scale and open source versions of commercial machines

sponsoons

or even just small scale and open source versions of commercial machines

I’ve was thinking that as well. Mabye a small scale press to make stock material that can later be recut/shaped

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF87LthunUkcYt5Pjm5SDfA/videos

POTOP

2:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ29RrPOL7MyT8mZV9De3Sg/videos

Eurotech Extrusion Machinery srl

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https://www.youtube.com/c/RichardMollerApollobey/videos

Richard Moller

2:03 PM

all of these channels might be good starting points to get an idea of what machines to down-scale and roughly how to do it

PreciousPlasticCork

I’ve was thinking that as well. Mabye a small scale press to make stock material that can later be recut/shaped

like a small sheet press

2:03 PM

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sponsoons

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Yeah mabye

Plastmakers produce mini presses: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/sheetpress/sheet-press-kits/mini-press/

sponsoons

all of these channels might be good starting points to get an idea of what machines to down-scale and roughly how to do it

another source you could look at for ideas on machines would be searching for 'labs machines' for eg 'lab extruder'

2:05 PM

they give you a rough idea on how to go about downscaling something

PreciousPlasticCork

Yeah mabye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTBds538le0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAvUdWkEUNI

DIY Recycled Plastic Sheets with Precious Plastic Philippines

One Army Community

Precious Plastic Philippines New Compression Mold Method

2:06 PM

these might be a good starting point

sponsoons

these might be a good starting point

Awesome, thank you!

espescially if you could make the sheet press shown above smaller,cheaper and maybe better

2:08 PM

since the main problem with building it looks to be finding the air bellows used as a jack for compression

2:08 PM

if you could find a alternative to that then it would greatly reduce the cost

Also been really inspired by the t shirt presses some people use to make sheets

2:10 PM

Although they have a few problems with heating it is a great start!

yup those are quite nice, unfortunately theyre quite costly

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so if you could find a way to make that design cheaper and better at heating then youve hit gold

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@here anyone available to chat? I am in the Livingroom VC

Tonight event in Lagos, Nigeria Precious plastic team produce first sheet press in Nigeria

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Great event

11:17 AM

Great event

@PreciousPlasticCork i use a large heat press to make these craft sheets. 500mm x 300mm x 5mm. Set up is about $1100-1500 AUD. Im in the middle of making a how to on this for everyone.

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Zero Plastics Australia

@PreciousPlasticCork i use a large heat press to make these craft sheets. 500mm x 300mm x 5mm. Set up is about $1100-1500 AUD. Im in the middle of making a how to on this for everyone.

Wow, they look fantastic! Can’t wait to see that. I saw you originally tutorial for the smaller sheet of the tutorials page.

Hello everyone I am new here and I most say support precious plastic you guys a amazing and motivating. I am also interested in opening a small enterprise in my home land for recycling waste plastic so I would need some advice

@blackkid where is your location so you can get assist within your locality

I live in italy but I want to start up the small activity in my home land the Gambia

SecondActPlasticLA

Selling a hugely discounted sheet press in Los Angeles please contact me ASAP if interested

Im intrested ...any details?

Please dm for more info

@PreciousPlasticCork yeah same process just scaled up, really easy and efficient for making smaller sheets

good morning everybody, I'm still looking for somebody in Europe who could show the precious plastic project during the Bauhaus Festival 2021 in our places at the Bauhaus building and the Bauhaus Museum Dessau. My vision would be to transform these places in to temporary precious plastic workshops (collecting / shredding / selling objects). The annual Bauhaus Festival in Dessau is one of the major events of the year in this region. Any support and help warmly welcome!

Hi!!! Im new over here

I’m starting a collection point and I wanted to do a presentation about it hit I’m having trouble to use the fonts, anyone could help me? Thanks

Hey! Has anyone applied for any of the #projectkamp support workforce? I applied but have not heard back and am wondering if only people accepted have heard back or if they've not reached out to applicants yet.

Aleli

Hi!!! Im new over here

I’m starting a collection point and I wanted to do a presentation about it hit I’m having trouble to use the fonts, anyone could help me? Thanks

Hi! Do you use Windows or Mac? For Windows you just have to install the font from the Universe folder (Maybe restart your software (or PC), where you want to use the font):

Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto

Hi! Do you use Windows or Mac? For Windows you just have to install the font from the Universe folder (Maybe restart your software (or PC), where you want to use the font):

It’s Mac, when I try to validate it an error message appears

Any ideas on the sound reduction index of a wall made from plastic bricks guys?

Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto

Hi! Do you use Windows or Mac? For Windows you just have to install the font from the Universe folder (Maybe restart your software (or PC), where you want to use the font):

Solved it! Thank you

HI:-) Im bew over here! Now im interesting making stuff using injection. I got some question. Ill buy machine at the bazaar, is there a maximum size for module that can be used depending on machine ?

kwanz

HI:-) Im bew over here! Now im interesting making stuff using injection. I got some question. Ill buy machine at the bazaar, is there a maximum size for module that can be used depending on machine ?

Yes, the maximum volume you can inject depends on the volume you can heat up in the injection tube. Also have a look here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/create/injection-moulds

I am brand new to shredding and looking to buy a basic shredder.

12:07 AM

I am looking to make roofing tiles combined with sand to build tiny homes for homeless veterans.

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Can these oil serve as alternative for silicone oil mould release agent 1. olive oil 2. petroleum jelly 3. resin 4. car wax

9:56 AM

Kindly, help me list the alternative oil for silicone oil

Hey how is everyone ?

Good evening! I just want to ask if there is a book or published material that serves as reference for the content in Precious Plastic- Safety and Plastic Fumes (part 2.2), especially on the part that talks about that the plastic should not be burned but it can be melted. Also, for the part explaining that the Polyethylene is the safest plastic to be melted. We just badly needed the reference for our study. Thank you so much!

PP Nigeria

Can these oil serve as alternative for silicone oil mould release agent 1. olive oil 2. petroleum jelly 3. resin 4. car wax

If you're using cooking oil, you'll need something with a high smoking point. There might be some discoloration in the plastics too. Here's a couple I've used: Palm Oil Canola Oil

Can anyone explain or tell me where to find the Kamp-chat ? It doesn’t show up in my list…

Deacon

Can anyone explain or tell me where to find the Kamp-chat ? It doesn’t show up in my list…

#kamp-chat

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Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

If you're using cooking oil, you'll need something with a high smoking point. There might be some discoloration in the plastics too. Here's a couple I've used: Palm Oil Canola Oil

What is the result of this oil if use on sheet press

Hi, i new here

12:59 AM

Someone speaks Spanish?

1:00 AM

i need help with my recycling project

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please

Get into regions area that is by continent and country.

Hi! I am looking for the CAD models of the bricks (single, double and triple. Can anyone send it to me? #brick #cadmodel

@Tamas Ling https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-extruded-plastic-bricks

https://open.sap.com/courses/ce1

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

@joseph Thanks, but this does not have the brick's CAD model, only the moulds dwg files.

1:20 PM

@Joseph Thanks, but this does not have the brick's CAD model, only the moulds dwg files.

Hey guys I've been having issues with uploading my how to's. With the uploading check list it doesn't load past "start". We have tried multiple time but with no success. Any help with this would be much appreciated, cheers. Adz.

Zero Plastics Australia

Hey guys I've been having issues with uploading my how to's. With the uploading check list it doesn't load past "start". We have tried multiple time but with no success. Any help with this would be much appreciated, cheers. Adz.

Hi! I'm in the same situation, I've been trying to upload a how to for two days

Must be there system, hopefully we will have an update soon. @Ezequiel_Necológica

Zero Plastics Australia

Must be there system, hopefully we will have an update soon. @Ezequiel_Necológica

Hey guys.. we are aware of some issues.. looking into this now.. give us some time

Mattia

Hey guys.. we are aware of some issues.. looking into this now.. give us some time

No problem! ✊

Hello everyone! I just discovered the Precious Plastic initiative, and it seems amazing. I would like to start up something, but it looks like a lot of the plans or processes are aimed at full blown companies and workshops. Does anyone have tips for more hobbyist-level equipment?

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4:25 PM

Course coming in October through SAP, if anyone is interested. Could provide some valuable business information.

Jeffrey

Hello everyone! I just discovered the Precious Plastic initiative, and it seems amazing. I would like to start up something, but it looks like a lot of the plans or processes are aimed at full blown companies and workshops. Does anyone have tips for more hobbyist-level equipment?

Hey there, @Jeffrey and welcome! I agree it can be quite overwhelming. First, I would consider looking around your local community, or even here on discord that are either local or around your approximate area. Collaboration is KEY.

I'm from Amsterdam, and I would think there were some hubs, but I could not find any on the map. Collecting and possibly also shredding seems to be easy to start with, but the creation process is a bit expensive and time consuming. I currently use a 3d printer (Prusa Mini), which I find relatively easy to set up and maintain.

Jeffrey

I'm from Amsterdam, and I would think there were some hubs, but I could not find any on the map. Collecting and possibly also shredding seems to be easy to start with, but the creation process is a bit expensive and time consuming. I currently use a 3d printer (Prusa Mini), which I find relatively easy to set up and maintain.

I know a few people have modified paper shredders to adequately shred plastic to initially. I agreed, the creation process is expensive when first starting and the PP model assumes to an extent that you're coming in with a bit of collateral (saved up money). I'm over in the USA, and I feel there are quite a few European connections to be had. Might want to see if there is a separate discord out there either for Netherlands or Europe?

6:20 PM

I look for inspiration through other creators too, there are so many on here and social media. Precious Plastic highlights some motivating makers through their Monthly Video Updates, on their social media pages, and they've been really encouraging everyone to post on their website "How To's"

Hello there is no French?

Matwhils

Hello there is no French?

https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn

Invite to join a server

https://discord.gg/Qa3wTrn

accueil

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how is everyone suddenly uploading how-to's? Good to hear though.

Not sure what is going on. We are doing some updates to the platform (adding commenting ) But it seems to work here. Sorry for the hassle... Two questions for the errors @Zero Plastics Australia @Ezequiel_Necológica @Darcy - TPF 1. What are the attachments? (e.g. are cover images jpeg, png or something else like a gif ) Is it a zip file attached and if so what size? 2. When you try again to press the F12 key and check if there are any errors in the console when trying to upload. This helps a lot to find the problem. (edited)

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Nick - PP France

there is not a phonebloks francophone ? (edited)

Matwhils

there is not a phonebloks francophone ? (edited)

unfortunately not

is phoneblocks still going?

Nick - PP France

unfortunately not

I'm sad

davehakkens

how is everyone suddenly uploading how-to's? Good to hear though.

Not sure what is going on. We are doing some updates to the platform (adding commenting ) But it seems to work here. Sorry for the hassle... Two questions for the errors @Zero Plastics Australia @Ezequiel_Necológica @Darcy - TPF 1. What are the attachments? (e.g. are cover images jpeg, png or something else like a gif ) Is it a zip file attached and if so what size? 2. When you try again to press the F12 key and check if there are any errors in the console when trying to upload. This helps a lot to find the problem. (edited)

Hi Dave, all my attachments are images - mostly .jpeg but also a couple of .png's. I've taken a screen clipping of the console errors and will post below. I'm not really sure what I'm doing here but it was red

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Hi, i'm new here. Ik have been following sinds like the blockphone and V1 machines

i hope to Learn alot from here.

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davehakkens

how is everyone suddenly uploading how-to's? Good to hear though.

Not sure what is going on. We are doing some updates to the platform (adding commenting ) But it seems to work here. Sorry for the hassle... Two questions for the errors @Zero Plastics Australia @Ezequiel_Necológica @Darcy - TPF 1. What are the attachments? (e.g. are cover images jpeg, png or something else like a gif ) Is it a zip file attached and if so what size? 2. When you try again to press the F12 key and check if there are any errors in the console when trying to upload. This helps a lot to find the problem. (edited)

Hey Dave! Thanks so much for getting back to us, huge fan an thanks again for everything you and your team have done. Just jpeg cover photos and images for the steps. Will try again soon and see. Thanks Adz

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Sorry if this was posted before. It didn't come up in chat search. A brief but good introduction to planned obsolescence and the Right To Repair movement, including all the related issues of sustainability and economics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE

Veritasium

This is why we can't have nice things

Plastic Paradigm

I know a few people have modified paper shredders to adequately shred plastic to initially. I agreed, the creation process is expensive when first starting and the PP model assumes to an extent that you're coming in with a bit of collateral (saved up money). I'm over in the USA, and I feel there are quite a few European connections to be had. Might want to see if there is a separate discord out there either for Netherlands or Europe?

Thanks! I'll have to check out if there is anything near. The communities or collection points that are on the map, are no longer active. I did find a beginner friendly tutorial! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpsXvO5LsTY

Brothers Make

3 Easy Recycled Plastic Projects | Recycling for Beginners

Frederik C (ZA)

Sorry if this was posted before. It didn't come up in chat search. A brief but good introduction to planned obsolescence and the Right To Repair movement, including all the related issues of sustainability and economics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE

I like too how mundane, yet EXTREMELY impactful "real conspiracies" are. Like faking the moon landing for...what is common. But there was this huge ACTUAL one on...lightbulbs, that scammed nearly the whole world for more money

6:23 PM

Also the bit on LED bulbs never "burning out" is a bit off (although i think this is usually due to undersized heat sinks, so they heat damage themself)

6:23 PM

definitely better than incandescent, and about the same/a bit more long lasting than CFL

6:24 PM

The real bit about LEDs that i love are how bright electric flashlights/lanterns are now, old D-Cell + Incandescent ones barely did anything, and the same power supply can run a Car "headlight" like thing !

Jeffrey

Thanks! I'll have to check out if there is anything near. The communities or collection points that are on the map, are no longer active. I did find a beginner friendly tutorial! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpsXvO5LsTY

Yeah the map has been in need of some updates/clear for awhile but there are different ideas on how to handle that. I. The mean time The Brothers Make are soooo great and have a lot of excellent intro ideas without having to build a lot of machines.

How strong does a shredder have to be to shred plastics again?

7:09 PM

I found one that can shred 18 pages of paper.

Nvm

8:23 PM

This will work fantastically.

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When does the new project kamp video Will be uploaden?

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Uploaded *

Heeeello everybody! I am looking for plastic scanners (to identify different types), any idea? I have seen the automatic sorting project

Is there a work shop in Los Angeles?

Hi all! I am looking for someone who could create the CAD models for the bricks (single, double, triple). I am not looking for the mould laser cut files, I am looking for the bricks' CAD models. Who can help me with that? #brick#CAD

@PP Nigeria That's nice hope to connect with you

@PP Nigeriakindly, DM your whatSapp number to be part of our community

Hi I run a jungle makerspace in Panama (www.dinalab.net) and we do our own precious plastics style upcycling for the community with a big Plastic shredder, sandwich press, and laser cutter (for instance stuff like this https://www.instructables.com/Upcycled-Plastic-to-Laser-Cut-Boxes-to-Store-More-/ )

Upcycled Plastic to Laser Cut Boxes (to Store More Plastic!)

Upcycled Plastic to Laser Cut Boxes (to Store More Plastic!): This how-to, will explain how to turn garbage plastic into sheets you can use for precision laser cutting! It's a compilation of our experiments figuring out ways to make strong, interlocking structures starting from raw materials, and has many tips…

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it is hard to get things delivered there and I'm visiting the states right now and I'm looking to try to buy an extrusion machine that I could carry back down with me in a suitcase or two on the airplane. I would need to get all the parts shipped to my address and Atlanta by August 15th. Anybody know where I could source all those things in my limited timeframe? Anyone think this is feasible? I would alternatively do an injection machine.

security would love you

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8:46 PM

need to tape a note on your suitcase explaining it all

Hahaha I'm used to having very difficult times getting strange electronics through airports to different hackerspaces :)

Hello Team! I am Amol! I stay in a village in India. I am facing a lot of plastic waste problem here. Most of the waste is MLP, others is LDPE, PP and Mixed Plastic packaging material. Here people just dump the plastic in open or use it as a fuel, which is terrible. Is it possible to recycle such plastic at site, its more like decentralised plastic recycling. Please help me as to what can be done!!! Should I try developing small-plastic recycling set up based on your blueprint? Or should I adopt some other methods to turn plastic into a resource?

What is MLP?

Hey guys,for those who make jewellery - what glue do you recommend using when gluing your plastic to a metal stud?

please how do i identify PS plastic with plastic scanne

Can I build precious plastic machine without studying engineering in school

Hi, Does anyone have blueprints and overview of dimensions for storage rack with crates (story hopper : getting organized).

I would like to set up a milti purpose workspace with my university, but I'm not sure how to start things with getting it approved and such with the school. Has there been any other people that started any kind of workshop with their school? If so how did you go about the logistics?

Wild_Inventor

I would like to set up a milti purpose workspace with my university, but I'm not sure how to start things with getting it approved and such with the school. Has there been any other people that started any kind of workshop with their school? If so how did you go about the logistics?

I would look into setting up makerspace - there is a few templates online.

gcardinal

I would look into setting up makerspace - there is a few templates online.

Alrighty thank you for the pointers

if anyone has a kit for extrusion or injection they are selling in the USA that i can purchase (and fit in my suitcase to bring back to panama) hit me up! thanks!

hi i am looking for the templates to build the machines

Hi. friends want to produce plastic bricks would anyone help me?

hi all im after some help finding the right silicone release agent for hdpe in a steel mould

join the club

8:54 AM

though we're using a sheet press

hahaa bugger im trying to make chopping boards in an oven

it should be possible

8:56 AM

brothers make manage somehow (edited)

yeah its going really well. i had a mild steel mould made and im using compression springs but really could do with a coating of mould release.

we just use a thicker silicone oil but we haven't got the hdpe process dialed in yet

ill try using more of what i have then!

hai

@cwtch @cwtch

hello, i search here if some others peoples work on biosynthesis of plastic.

atleti-

@cwtch @cwtch

yes sir

cwtch

yes sir

Jo sen veq thash

aha ani

I am trying to create an account on the website and can not save my progress? button is greyed out.... anyone have this problem, just as a member and added pictures of the space. Sorry for Precious Plastic

Is there any (hopefully open source) software for simulating how molten plastic (or metal!) would flow/cool in a mold?

The only stuff I've heard of for mold flow simulation is not cheap at all

'Creo' and Solidworks-Plastic is pretty accurate - judging by own tests

: https://www.digitalengineering247.com/article/what-injection-molding-simulation-software-can-do-for-you/

What Injection Molding Simulation Software Can Do for You - Digital...

Whatever your role in plastics injection molding, there’s a tool that will improve your endgame..

closest is fluid simulation https://awesomeopensource.com/projects/simulation but fluid and plastic simulation are 2 different beasts though

The Top 287 Simulation Open Source Projects

Browse The Most Popular 287 Simulation Open Source Projects

if you have to ask about simulation software, open source fluid simulation software is not for you

9:41 PM

I know a few people who work with OpenFOAM and I don't hear good things about accessibility

Yeah - simulating plastic is more of an job for an army of developers (and lawyers), over many many years. I think an entry price of 10k is still a decent price for what you get.

Alrighty

I guess for lack of a better term, some Plastic Product Ideas:

3:38 AM

Plastic Letters and Numbers (mainly for kids learning, donated/sold to schools or families for kids, but also could be used for signs, especially if magnets were added Examples i guess (most are thermoformed sheets, not solid, and those that are contain magnets, so not the best example i guess): https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Plastic+Letters+and+Numbers&ref=nb_sb_noss

Edit this to change the output of the custom command 1!

One of these letterboard type things: https://www.amazon.com/Changeable-Letter-Boards/b/ref=dp_bc_aui_C_4?ie=UTF8&node=490769011

Changeable Letter Boards - Amazon.com

Shop for Changeable Letter Boards in Office Products on Amazon.com

3:47 AM

It is calling them felt letterboards, and showing fully removable full letters, i think there was a type with slide in rectangular "dots" you use to make letters in the grooved board, but i may be mistaken (that would be two parts, grooved panel, and slide in rectangle/square dots)

3:47 AM

Versitile and kind of in demand/valuable i guess, just an idea the popped in my head, so i'd thought i'd chuck them on here!

Hi everyone, I'm not 100% sure if this is the right place to write this but I'm planning on learning as much as I can on the topic of 'the ethics of practicing industrial design' because when I went through my bachelor of industrial design the notion of industrial designers needing to consider the ethics of their actions was never really brought up and I feel that this exact topic is quite important in today's world. If anyone knows of any books/readings that address the topic of ethics in industrial design I would appreciate learning about them. Thank you for your time.

Ello everyone

5:20 PM

I am an archi student..

Shredder: I saw a video on YouTube of a guy using a Pen+Gear paper shredder rated for 16 pages. Has anyone tried this and what were your redials? Thank you.

Hi everyone, my dad is planning on setting up a mobile workspace which he then wants to donate to the local school here in New Zealand. My question is; is it sufficient to have the students clean and bring plastic to shred from home. Or does it have to be cleaned in a washing machine once shredded as described on your „how-to“ page?

12:39 PM

Second question is; am I correct in presuming injection moulding would be the easiest/ most interesting way to get kids involved? My dads idea was to make 3D printer filament. But I am under the impression that is very difficult to do especially for students?

What makes the most impact? What items can we produce that will make the biggest positive impact on the planet?

I think that we shouldn't be focusing making little charms and nick knacks, we already have so many things on the planet like that. Something with a purpose... If you want something that brings joy and beauty, it should be something you either make yourself or very carefully select, rather than a spontaneous purchase that has a chance of winding back in the landfill. Although what that something is, is a good question is ask. Does it last long? Can it be used in multiple ways by multiple people? Boxes and containers are great because they're functional no matter what. (edited)

I guess there is no set of items. It depends on the needs of the local community. There are always the classic problems (look at the SDG's to see them) like food, clean water, education, etc. and products that focus on fixing those issues in an accessible way is important.

Hi all . Please tell me how to place your geolocation on the world map? We manufacture machines in Russia but sell them all over the world. But they decided to put a point on the map quite recently. Thanks .

@The Urban Tool Network Yeah one of the things we want to address right now is the charms/knickknacks VS. Things that will actually sequester plastic out of the oceans at scale. The Plastic Bricks for example are a good one from a preliminary overview but I'd love to learn if there are any other items.

janusasaurusrex

What makes the most impact? What items can we produce that will make the biggest positive impact on the planet?

What makes the most impact? Not producing plastic waste.

But if we're talking about producing things, then you need to consider your own capabilities for production. In some cases, people are only limited to making small trinkets. If you have a Precious Plastic workshop with Shredder Pro and Extrusion Pro, i think the best thing you can make are extruded beams or blocks to be used in permanent buildings. If you can make a building, have adequate fire suppression equipment (fire sprinklers), and build things right, you'll have a building that can contain literally tons of plastic safely for a really long time. I bet it would outlast all of us. The plastic would be utilized 24/7 as opposed to trinkets that are looked at then set aside. Just my thoughts anyways.

@Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug Haha touché. Yeah blocks might be the way to go. We're looking at setting up a full workshop with Shredder, extruder and sheet press. From a consumer standpoint, anyone have any product ideas that we can make to really pull plastic out of the landfill/oceans?

Yea, Nzambi Matee of Gjenge Makers is doing amazing work in Kenya mixing plastic with sand to make paving stones and creating a profitable business out of it. https://youtu.be/xKTgMogqBxs (edited)

United Nations

Plastic bricks in Kenya – Nzambi Matee - Young Champion of the Eart...

Hi everyone, just joined the discord! @Explojin agreed that Nzambi Matee is doing some really amazing work. As a follow up to blocks, beams, and pavers, are there any members of the community or does anyone know of companies working on compression molding at a larger scale (size of the end product)? It seems like the limiting factor is the size of your oven, but also the sheet presses have a max thickness of 35mm. What else gets in the way of making larger forms?

Ho everyone, im à french baccalaureate graduate and I am pursuing a project of reports about low tech, circular Economy and biomimicry along my next studies. I would be honored to learn and help you in your projects !!

I,m interested in duplicating plastic recycling plant can you assist with step by step blueprints. I'm a Ugandan who is interested in using local materials to fublicate the production plant.

Jonah

I,m interested in duplicating plastic recycling plant can you assist with step by step blueprints. I'm a Ugandan who is interested in using local materials to fublicate the production plant.

All the blueprints and some videos are available on the website. If you get stuck with a step, reach out here. http://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/overview.html

Starterktis Overview

Starterkits are packages of information with everything you need to know to set up Precious Plastic recycling spaces and start tackling the plastic waste problem.

Which type of plastic can be used as bricks

emajay#12

Which type of plastic can be used as bricks

Short answer? Yes. Longer answer? It depends on your method of creating the blocks, but aside from some plastics being more difficult to work with than others, any plastic could be used as a brick.

Hi, My family and I own a furniture manufacturing business, and we have over 100kilos of scrap flexible polyurethane foam (FPF). May I ask how we can recycle this? Thank you so much

10:43 AM

I am a furniture designer/manufacturer based in the Philippines, and am excited to work with this community.

Hi everyone... I've been into plastics processing for a long time, but i mainly came here to learn more about Project Kamp. I can't see a channel for that project. am I looking in the wrong place? Thanks.

#🖐start-here

Hey Everyone hope you all well? We have a off cuts of pvc, polyester foam and fibre fabric materials used in the production of vehicle seats. The materials are mixed at the moment. Has anyone got any experience with dealing with this sort of material. Maybe an upcycling initiative? Looking at roughly 20 tons a month. Any input would be much appreciated.

10:18 PM

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Hey Everyone hope you all well? We have a off cuts of pvc, polyester foam and fibre fabric materials used in the production of vehicle seats. The materials are mixed at the moment. Has anyone got any experience with dealing with this sort of material. Maybe an upcycling initiative? Looking at roughly 20 tons a month. Any input would be much appreciated.

you might want to look at rebonded foam

7:01 AM

it should suit you decently

7:04 AM

as for the pvc,polyester foam the best you can to is shred it and use it as filling/stuffing in other foam products

7:08 AM

directly recycling the pvc, polyester foam is a bit difficult since on heating the foam will off-gas meaning it cant be used easily for injection/exrtusion on normal machines,however there are lots of recyclers and plastic manufacturers who have special degassing extruders who might be intrested in buying it

however the best both in terms of cost and effort for you might be rebonded foam as the output of it can be further used in by you in the production of vehicle seats thus reducing costs

thank you so much. I've just started researching on rebonded foam products and currently looking for a manufacturer here in the Philippines who could help us!

7:46 AM

Thank you for your response, you've led me in the right direction.

biiancaco

thank you so much. I've just started researching on rebonded foam products and currently looking for a manufacturer here in the Philippines who could help us!

another thing you could try would be to simply put up a sign/poster saying that youre selling foam offcuts or foam scraps

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8:26 AM

as there are always industries who want to buy that stuff

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Who do you contact if you aren't getting a password reset email for you PP account? Trying to get in the bazaar

elementalAndrew

Who do you contact if you aren't getting a password reset email for you PP account? Trying to get in the bazaar

Should be @Joseph :)

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Hello everybody

I was wondering about One Army and its approach to exploring new ideas (from within the community). I might have an idea that fits well with the One Army philosophy, ideology and tone of voice

@Skredup I thought of the same

Ello

Hello guys,I have a question about the shredder pro Can it also handel PET? From the ones who have used this machine.

Skredup

Hello everybody

I was wondering about One Army and its approach to exploring new ideas (from within the community). I might have an idea that fits well with the One Army philosophy, ideology and tone of voice

Just curious, if it's not something you guys are looking for, that's all good- just exploring possibilities!

@everyone I want to melt masks as they have done in the YOUTUBE video and form sheets out of that. I need a datasheet for the temperatures and which metal sheets should I use?? VERY URGENT

Ello

7:29 PM

Hi David, I am an architecture student soon to be an architect, Ive been following project camp since the first vids from the main channel (precious plastic). Wanna help make/design the kitchen in the a virtual setting to see the possibilities of what soon to be the kitchen.. All I need from you is some measurements. That is all. Kind regards, Mo

You might find this insulation product useful to cover your brick buildings like your Kitchen building https://www.rexpolgroup.it/5232/spiderex-k8-il-nuovo-sistema-di-isolamento-a-cappotto-termico-esterno/

spideREX K8 - Il nuovo sistema di isolamento a cappotto termico est...

isolamento a cappotto termico esterno: è il nuovo sistema brevettato Rexpol che rivoluziona il tradizionale concetto di isolamento a cappotto.

Hello everyone, how can i clean my sheet press mould for continuing production?

Hi everyone, iam an mechanical engineer and iam new to this channel as i was watching the Precious plastic videos which got into this. Feeling good to see you all. Let me also be a helping hand to your works on plastics .

Hi everyone, I'm from Turkey. I'm planning to buy one of the bio-press machines that you use in the videos. However, I don't know if it's possible for me to buy one machine as a whole without me having to construct the whole machine. Basically, I have either no clue how to do it or I have no instruments for the job.

10:58 PM

So, I'd be grateful if you could tell me if I could buy one or not?

10:58 PM

Thanks everyone in advance

10:58 PM

Best luck

hello ded chat

1:27 AM

i like preserving plants before they die and reusing paper to make paper clay!

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Anyone is online

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Well I guess we are following Daves lead with the Project Kamp. We rented a vacant lot next to the shop and planted a garden.

1:49 AM

With the prices of food going up so much here in the Philippines, it is now cheaper to rent space and hire someone to tend the garden than buy from the store. Potato for example, is so expensive, that 4 kilos is the equivalent to one days salary for a laborer.

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hi all, my name is Ebrahim and i am planning to set up small commercial shop for recycling PET. any one has started or has any guidance would much appreciate your feedback,

Hello everyone! I am Dionysios and I am just starting setting up a community point in Othoni island, Greece. Also starting organising collection points for plastic on the island. Please if you have any experience, tips, suggestions etc let mne know. In addition I am trying to create a customised logo for the community point and it seems there is a font missing from the Community Point starter pack so the fonts on illustrator do not come up correctly. Please advise me how to proceed. Thank you all!

Hi! I have been following precious plastics for a while and would love to jump in, in the near future to help get this started in less developed areas (specially the Assyrian towns in Iraq). Excited to converse with everyone!

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does anyone know if it is allowed/possible to sell products on the bazar without having a business license.

Hii, I'm new here, I wanted to make the Bio-Press machine and was wondering if there's a pdf for the whole construction mechanism?

8:06 PM

Is there anything like that?

Hello. I'm a 3D artist and DM looking to affordably reproduce 3d printed figures. Found you guys through a TheCrafsMan video recommendation and am tempted to try recycling my own plastic by whatever means I can.

Hi. İ am Ömer. İ live in Turkey. İ am a mechanical engineering.

Hello here, Our crowdfunding campaign is running untill september the 6th. You would be so nice if you share it to help us. We need this funds to launch our workshop and create our first jobs. https://effervesens-centrevaldeloire.org/decouvrez-les-projets/detail/recyclage-de-plastique-citoyen efferve'sens

Recyclage de plastique citoyen #

Un bon plastique est un plastique recyclé !

# Recyclage de plastique citoyen #

Un bon plastique est un plastique recyclé !

Hi we are a married couple, just purchased a farm in Fundao in Portugal, we were wondering if Project Kamp would be interested in helping us, on a 60/40 split, in harvesting our olives later this year. Cheers

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is it possible for me to join the camp in Portugal?

5:39 PM

I mean the big YouTube camp

they are accepting volunteers but that's all I know, no idea of scheduling or application (edited)

Sorry all, this is a little flex, but also a thank you. I have just been granted 50k to start my recycling plastic work in my community. Thank you to all the community that have helped me get this far. I'm going to have a load more questions to get up and running.

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We started a "urban farm" which is a fancy way of saying big garden for Precious Plastic Philippines employees recently. With the current economic situation, we have to be more resilient in our business model. Attached are a few pics. The workshop is in the background.

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1:24 AM

chicken coop build yesterday. It is made in sections, and each section wired together so that it can be moved to different parts of the garden. All recycled steel except for the mesh, tie wire, and door hinges which was about 22usd additional. After this batch of chicken is raised, it will be tilled, and for tomato in a couple months. We are growing 45 day broiler chickens. (edited)

1:27 AM

sadly however we are unable to do organic for now. The property is just too full of harmful insects and we had to spray for noxious weeds during clearing. It also had a pickup truck load of waste plastic we cleaned up

1:28 AM

We also had to set out rat baits, as we have a very serious rat infestation due to the area being in a squatter/shanty area.

1:32 AM

but at least we can now supplement our workers salary with food. At present the workers are getting a kilo of cheese, couple kilos pasta, and bulk purchased foods in addition to salary. We have seen a 120% increase in vegetable price alone since January this year.

@cookingmad don't spend in all in one place

@Butte (PP Philippines) good call and pretty hefty and worrying subject, have you checked the soil yet ? there are always some white witches around

@The Unreal Precious Plastic Thanks I hope we won't but a large piece of that change will go the plastic processing machines +Delivery from France to the UK .

cookingmad

@The Unreal Precious Plastic Thanks I hope we won't but a large piece of that change will go the plastic processing machines +Delivery from France to the UK .

keep us posted, eager to see what's possible with 50 K

The Unreal Precious Plastic

keep us posted, eager to see what's possible with 50 K

Will do but the money is a bit of a skewed metric. As the building will be free with no bills, as this will be part of my current work/job

Butte (PP Philippines)

sadly however we are unable to do organic for now. The property is just too full of harmful insects and we had to spray for noxious weeds during clearing. It also had a pickup truck load of waste plastic we cleaned up

Not sure what insects you have got but if they are the type that will eat your vegetables, I recommend planting a couple of tobacco plants at each end of the garden. Insects are more attracted to these plants that your food and it will kill the insects due to its toxicity. Nice simple and natural way to keep bugs that eat your plants at bay.

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GeorgeH

Not sure what insects you have got but if they are the type that will eat your vegetables, I recommend planting a couple of tobacco plants at each end of the garden. Insects are more attracted to these plants that your food and it will kill the insects due to its toxicity. Nice simple and natural way to keep bugs that eat your plants at bay.

We got marigolds but its a area where the locals are not particulary careful about these things. So we have to use sevin powder. Otherwise we have a black hole of attractive food for pests from the neighbors :(

I saw a quick mention of weather station ideas, is that still active and how can I contact?

GeorgeH

Not sure what insects you have got but if they are the type that will eat your vegetables, I recommend planting a couple of tobacco plants at each end of the garden. Insects are more attracted to these plants that your food and it will kill the insects due to its toxicity. Nice simple and natural way to keep bugs that eat your plants at bay.

Try diatomaceous earth spread around. Might help. I sympathise with the challenges of the neighborhood. It is not food grade but look for it at swimming pool or industrial sand filter supplies. Had a hard time finding in Thailand. Might find food grade if grain storage operations use it.

I have some questions about the OneArmy platform, is there a channel here for that? I'd open an issue on github, but maybe this is much simpler to solve. Any hints?

Hi all I am from india. Due to covid and work from home a lot of people are struggling with improper chairs and tables. I am one of them and planning to build myself a height adjustable desk. This involves the following materials 1. Linear actuator X2 2. Wood/plastic sheet for desk top 3. Metal telescopic tubes Has some one tried this kind of stuff? And any inputs for me? Any one from India who wants to collaborate?

Hello can you please suggest me the design of hopper to be fixed on top of extruder, and what is the suitable material for hopper?

Paulum

Try diatomaceous earth spread around. Might help. I sympathise with the challenges of the neighborhood. It is not food grade but look for it at swimming pool or industrial sand filter supplies. Had a hard time finding in Thailand. Might find food grade if grain storage operations use it.

i have many kilos of it, but the rain right now will wash it away. We are in monsoon season and it is heavy rain 1-2 times per day.

I think you are a pretty good boss. How much longer for monsoon? Still real hot or does the rain make it a little cooler?

Paulum

I think you are a pretty good boss. How much longer for monsoon? Still real hot or does the rain make it a little cooler?

maybe until mid or late october. it is between 27-32c here.

That's a long time to be wet. But the lush plants like it. Good luck with the planting.... they grow very fast in the rain. :>) Unfortunately bugs do well in rain and warm too:>{

Vector

Here are a couple of pieces that i made using a toaster oven and a DIY press. Some direction would be very helpful if there is anyone that would be able to advise me please

Hi @Vector, how long did you give them in the owen?

Hello

I'm from California, USA and am moving to France to try to help tackle this plastic waste crisis through a business/engineering route. I left medical school there and am researching master's degrees for business, engineering, entrepreneurship, etc in France. I was wondering if anyone here had some suggestions for degrees or training that will help me expand recycled plastic technology (ideally from Europe to the United States). Thanks and cheers from Scotland! (edited)

@AppDevMandala from an engineering perspective I think the efficient sorting of unmarked plastic is an area that still needs a lot of work. Going from mixed waste aka a pile of trash to usable raw materials. Another area is ocean plastic. Because of the degradation in salt water ocean plastic loses some of its properties and it's not quite clear what the consequences for recycling are. I live by the coast and would like to start making surfboard fins from recycled plastic. Just don't have the equipment yet...

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7:19 AM

Help us to how to do recycle the plastic

Hi

Hi from Japan. Lovely to find this community！Thinking about starting up in Japan, anyone know anyone wanting to jump on?

I want phonebloks

hello i am from pakistan

i am bs economics student but i am interest in reduction of plastic now a days i am searching for how i can recycle plastic to make plastic roads

sponsoons

directly recycling the pvc, polyester foam is a bit difficult since on heating the foam will off-gas meaning it cant be used easily for injection/exrtusion on normal machines,however there are lots of recyclers and plastic manufacturers who have special degassing extruders who might be intrested in buying it

so the extruders that are built on PP is not able to melt and handle the PVC?

though it might be possible it may result in a lot bubbles and cavities in the object you are making

it also depends a lot on where your pvc is from and its individual properties, since most pvc and other plastics differ a lot based on their additives and composition

FireTiger99

so the extruders that are built on PP is not able to melt and handle the PVC?

also in the message you've mentioned I state that it would not be possible to recycle pvc, polyester or other plastic foam directly i.e by just melting it without as special extruder as the bubbles and possibly toxic/harmful gasses from the foam will transfer into the part you are making causing bubbles and cavities as well as possible harm to those working with the plastic

7:54 PM

if you look at any of the methods for recycling plastic foam you'll notice that they all have a step/stage where the gas can release from the plastic

Hi from Mali. Happy to be back here.

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Hi from Dorset. Are there any members nearby?

First post on Discord!

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cookingmad

Sorry all, this is a little flex, but also a thank you. I have just been granted 50k to start my recycling plastic work in my community. Thank you to all the community that have helped me get this far. I'm going to have a load more questions to get up and running.

Congrats! Any tips on where to look for this type of funding? I would love to set up a plastics recycling in my community, but don't know where to begin looking for grants to do so. I'm in the US. (edited)

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andy_iiiiv

Congrats! Any tips on where to look for this type of funding? I would love to set up a plastics recycling in my community, but don't know where to begin looking for grants to do so. I'm in the US. (edited)

Hi Andy. Thank you for your comment. I'm in the Royal Air Force and there is money for innovation. I'm championing for the RAF to be greener.(I know we fly Jets every day. But we need to start somewhere). Sustainable is massive all over the globe. I was going to approach the national Lottery. They have a huge funding streams for things like this. I dont know if you have anything like that the States. But I would approach local authorities. Most are always looking for that feel good factor of future Sustainable. Hit me up if I can help you get a proposal together. Regards, Cookingmad

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First post in discord!

hello

1:24 AM

someone from BR?

Hello from Mongolia. Representing a small local NGO that tries to make some change bit by bit. www.ecosoum.org is our website. With the help of Precious plastic and international volunteers, we made 2 small machines and bought 2 new machines from abroad. Happy to see everyone being optimistic and active to make some positive impact wherever you are. Much love to you all.

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WOW, after walking many rough roads, finally got to the source, hello one nation from Poland

Ello all

i know that sounds strange but i kinda want a toilet seat from black recycled plastic ;-;

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Not strange at all.

humblefactory

Hey Y'all, I'm a long time lurker who finally got around to saying hello. I'm a product designer and professor (of Industrial Design) here in Seattle WA. I'm also working on a carbon farming permaculture property in Eastern Washington, and I'd love to connect with any OneArmy folks who are in the Seattle Area.

Hi Humble Factory I am a product designer , packaging engineer in Seattle as well. Let me know if you would like to connect. I don't often check discord but i would like to more in the future.

at here, is there a project kamp channel?

Sewayaki Kitsune No Senko-san

i know that sounds strange but i kinda want a toilet seat from black recycled plastic ;-;

how can i get one?

Did anyone ever tried to make hdpe & wood tables

8:23 AM

Like the epoxy river tables

8:26 AM

Cant find anything, can imagine it wont stick together like epoxy but thats solvable

Hi Here, ill try to find a more appropriate place for this question and look through for already answered stuff as well: I have been thinking a lot about how people have been making roof and pathway tiles out of recycled plastics by mixing sand into them and then doing hydraulic compression molding. Id like to think about doing this myself on upcoming projects. My question is, for when these things are in the environment as roofing tiles, do they UV degrade? Does the sand or other additive (wood pulp in decking material) help provide UV blocking? Probably depends on the plastics type and color. Does UV degraded plastic of this type contribute to micro-plastics in the water? So for roofing tiles for example would they UV degrade in a way that would add micro plastics to the roof runoff water? Id really like to think about using or working with the sand filled roof tiles but Im wondering about the long term effects. Perhaps this is something we could do research on in the community. It would be really cool if the sand or wood pulp additives would block uv degradation. (need to do a lot more personal research and reading on this if anyone has any resources) (edited)

(I also know from best design practices its not a good idea to mix wood into plastic because it will not be able to be unmixed at end of life) Sand feels better an an inert and abundant material) (edited)

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here is an example of the processes : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_a48W6BcsE bonus jazy soundtrack

Roof Tiles From Recycled Plastic

8:32 PM

I mean more like this

8:33 PM

Epoxy is very expensive and nasty stuff but if this could be hdpe and I used the wood as a mold later glue the hdpe to the plastic

8:34 PM

Or no glue at all and just supported from the bottom

This might be a stupid question, but is it possible for someone with a small budget and no machining skills to make a shredder for HDPE / PP? I do have strong motors lying around and I do know a bit of welding but I can't wrap my head around how to make the blades in a cheap way

Gogreenbuddy

Epoxy is very expensive and nasty stuff but if this could be hdpe and I used the wood as a mold later glue the hdpe to the plastic

I’ve tried experimenting with woof but the plastic shrinks away from the wood , especially HDPE

Tom - Redo Design

I’ve tried experimenting with woof but the plastic shrinks away from the wood , especially HDPE

What if you used epoxy as a border between the plastic and wood, actually not sure epoxy would stick to the plastic but some glue … yes maybe a strip going along the live edge but may work.

You Could do I guess & I know you can get special polypropylene glues for example . How environmental friendly it is and recycled at end of life

This is cool. Hi everyone

Hi all does any one have any Health and Safety documents, about melting type 2 plastic and the storage of said plastic, that they could share with me?

Is there a way to sort the how-tos's by the newest ones? (edited)

Hey all! Just asking - does the Kamp have their own discord server please?

teddlesruss

Hey all! Just asking - does the Kamp have their own discord server please?

#kamp-chat #development :)

Nick - PP France

#kamp-chat #development :)

Merci! I'm blind, didn't even see those channels. Too much reading to do! hehehe..

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Hi! I have a question! I'm wanting to build an injection machine and install it at my school as my project, but I'm struggling finding information of the toxins and fumes this machine will put out. Are these fumes illegal in TN? Does this machine need to be under a fume hood? Any advice would be very much appreciated, thank you!!

I'm looking for plastic related issues that my mechanical engineering capstone group and I could possibly solve. Any problem ideas would be a great help.

12:52 AM

Initially we were planning on making a die press for plastic bags but found out that plastic bags are already being made into pellets at certain recycling sites. However this process requires a lot of energy so the press idea might be able to actually reduce the amount used vs a typical shredder.

emerson

Hi! I have a question! I'm wanting to build an injection machine and install it at my school as my project, but I'm struggling finding information of the toxins and fumes this machine will put out. Are these fumes illegal in TN? Does this machine need to be under a fume hood? Any advice would be very much appreciated, thank you!!

You can find information about it in the academy https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Thanks!!

So I’ve been keeping an eye out for workspaces etc and keep eyeing up this ex fishing trawler. Wouldn’t it be great to recycle abandoned fishing by nets etc on something that potentially caused it ! Dreaming !

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Hi Everyone, just landed here, I am interested to build the shredder

Good day @Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug May I ask, is there any disadvantages with regards with the two types of hopper from the extrusion machine (cone hopper and trapezoid hopper)? Thank you :)

Are the compressed bowls water proof?

12:51 PM

How long do they cook?

Asuna_NFT

Good day @Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug May I ask, is there any disadvantages with regards with the two types of hopper from the extrusion machine (cone hopper and trapezoid hopper)? Thank you :)

Sorry, I'm not sure. I've always had some issue with plastic getting stuck in the hopper. What happens to me is the flakes will form an arc and stop falling into the feed section of the barrel. I think I'll be adding something to my hopper to agitate the plastic flakes so they keep moving down.

Hello guys, i'm an architect and designer from Lebanon and i'm interested in plastic Recycling, i wanna start with doing some great stuff and craft but i need the machines and i need your support. i need for now a small shredder and the injection machine. do you know how to buy this machines in a reasonable price? and is it possible to ship this machines to Lebanon? Thank you

Hello everybody: I have landed here with the idea to find people wich could help to clean the oceans and seas, and reuse/recicle that plastic.

theres already such project ocean cleanup

8:06 PM

run by a dutch guy/non profit

8:07 PM

has anyone from the precious plastic team worked on plastic to energy projects ?

ElieA

Hello guys, i'm an architect and designer from Lebanon and i'm interested in plastic Recycling, i wanna start with doing some great stuff and craft but i need the machines and i need your support. i need for now a small shredder and the injection machine. do you know how to buy this machines in a reasonable price? and is it possible to ship this machines to Lebanon? Thank you

I assume you’ve talked to Ziad?

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Hello everyone,

hello

Hi

Just a bit of an Update, i just started welding school a few weeks back (and now especially since we are finally doing hands on stuff, not just classroom book work), so i may not be that active on here (for a while...)

9:42 PM

I will try and check on weekends, and maybe read a bit on mobile during the weekdays though!

Eric Lotze

Just a bit of an Update, i just started welding school a few weeks back (and now especially since we are finally doing hands on stuff, not just classroom book work), so i may not be that active on here (for a while...)

Awesome, what are they covering? Doing any cert tests?

All of the processes (i guess short of the crazy automated stuff like submerged arc welding, electron beam welding etc)! Currently just doing stick welding, not even welding yet just trying to get a straight "bead" i guess. My main limitation is my glove catching on fire right when i feel comfy with where my hands are lol (but i am fixing that)

Hey guys! I'm part of a group that is searching for land at the moment to start and new queer community, and we are super interested in what you guys are doing

we are also a bunch of makers and your work looks exciting. Is there anyone actually living on the land that you purchased? did you start your new life? if so, we would really love to stop by, meet and talk, if thats cool. Let me know. Thanks

Does anyone know where the channel for chatter around the Community Platform Github repo is on the new Discord?

> If you need more immediate feedback you can try reaching out on slack in the platform-dev channel. https://github.com/ONEARMY/community-platform/blob/master/.github/pull_request_template.md

@Eric Lotze yo Eric move your hands you are now playing with fire. Hang in and learn the skill. Good luck. It does take lots of practice. A few people are naturals....not many

Wondering what’s the best way to recycle PP NonWoven , from face masks wastage

Hi everyone! I'm wondering if there still is an active community in Eindhoven? I looked at the Map, but there is no address. Hope you can help! Have a good Sunday!

Anna Kofoed

Hi everyone! I'm wondering if there still is an active community in Eindhoven? I looked at the Map, but there is no address. Hope you can help! Have a good Sunday!

We unfortunately had to move from the Version 4 workspace. Although there are quite a few workspaces in the Netherlands that you can check out!

NickySo

Wondering what’s the best way to recycle PP NonWoven , from face masks wastage

https://youtu.be/Y5pkleCwb_Y I found this Precious plastic video helpful

How to RECYCLE FACEMASKS #coronavirus

from vacant plastic, and weed filled vacant lot to productive garden in 55 days at the PP Philippines shop garden. With the increasing food costs, we rented the small plot next to the workshop to plant a garden. We are getting first harvest of beans, radish tops and broiler chickens already. This weekend if the weather cooperates we will process most of the chickens we raised. We got a lot of manure which is mixed with sawdust (Nitrogen carbon ratio is important) to till into the soil. The goal is to build soil structure. We are removing weekly a lot of plastic waste from the lot along with concrete waste and other assorted garbage. After the monsoon rain lets up we will till in the new mulch and hopefully get a much higher production. It is not easy to get more self sufficient and not rely on these increasingly corporate systems. We are doing our best though.

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regarding the Project Kamp pizza oven... Townsends has a video for additional information about building https://youtu.be/i0foHjPVbP4 Seeing several videos on foundry building, it may be advantageous to add in some steel wool pot scrubber to the oven as a reinforcment, and or some grog. The clay tile on the property can be crushed and mixed with clay to make a excellent grog. This will also prevent cracking.

Townsends

How to Build an Earthen Oven

Hi my name is Delight and am from Afrika, Zambia to be precise. Looking to learn more about recycling. We have a waste management system that I feel could be helped to stop plastic pollution and turn it into Precious Plastics. The worst part is that our system is mixed up, that is Bio Waste and Recyclable materials in one lot taken to a dump site with the hope of burying the rubble after the site fills up. Was really happy when I saw the video by Dave. Kudus and please help me learn more as we desperately need to do this here.

Hi there ! I’m new to this tool so I hope it’s the right place to ask my question....

5:28 PM

Hi want to know if it’s possible to melt and use the different tools to recycle LDPE ? Thanks for your help !

It's definitely possible.

5:29 PM

effectiveness just depends on the source material and additives in it as far as I've heard (edited)

Thanks !

What is the source material you want to use?

5:33 PM

also ends up being very soft

@CitSciWorkshop Hi, sorry to bother you, I am new here, Is the real Dave Hakkens here?

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He's the server owner. If you have specific questions you might direct them to the @🤙v4-team or server admins.

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Cool!

Is there a way to recycle or reuse the rubber tires?

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AmAGeek

Is there a way to recycle or reuse the rubber tires?

there is a fairly good and efficient way, however it faces the same problem as all other recycling

4:49 AM

those who have that waste get stingy with it and want exorbitant prices and those who want the waste want almost perfect quality every time

4:50 AM

which means esp in recycling tires there are only two people the small scale ones in some sewer and the very large companier

4:51 AM

the other problem is that tires like sand,theyre valuable but not valuable enough to say transport

4:51 AM

which means most mid-size and good companies dont go into that field

4:52 AM

cuz like the scrap busines you can just leave it to some guy on the street with a hammer and a blade,wholl pull/cut out the metal wires to sell as scrap and then just dump the tire

4:53 AM

the other problem is most of these very big tire dumps are in big,fairly rich countries so the coujldnt care what happens to them

4:54 AM

almost anywhere else the tires are re-treaded and reused until the cant be anymore and then either theyre reused or just scrapped for the metal wire and the rubber granulate

sponsoons

the other problem is most of these very big tire dumps are in big,fairly rich countries so the coujldnt care what happens to them

the other thing is the people incharge of these dump want exorbitant prices and/or a lot of bribes for letting somebody use these tires,or theyd rather just let it burn on purpose so they can

4:56 AM

get the metal wire from the tires which is what has actual value\

also if you look up tyre recycling you'll notice that most are fairly small scale and cheap ways of dealing with those tyres or theyre just about simply reusing the tires,one way or the other

@sponsoons Whoa! Thanks for the information.

7:54 AM

Really appreciate your effort and research knowledge!

AmAGeek

@sponsoons Whoa! Thanks for the information.

welcome, all of this is from late night coffee fueled binges, so you have coffee to thank

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7:56 AM

if youd personally like to try recycling tyres look at these vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQMWPiANUBg

Restoration & Experiments

Making A Tub Of Water From A Used Tire | Amazing Technique

7:57 AM

theres others too showing things like clutches and brake pads being made out of old tyres

7:59 AM

theres also vids showing shock absorbers, bushings, gaskets, washers among various other things being made

8:01 AM

theres also the vids showing the normal shoe and footwear soles and planters and the like being made

Hey there

Iam new here , I'd like to start with shredding , can you give me all possible advices and tricks ?

Thank you !

Hello everyone

8:21 PM

What machine shreds plastic bottles well

4:12 PM

Day 60 of our shops garden. We harvested chickens, radish, beans, chiles and cucumbers. We put a garden next to our Precious Plastic workshop for me and the workers. Also expanding our solar and molding lots of plant pots.

Hi I am starting a Precious Plastics group at our school (Western Academy of Beijing) is it ok to use PP in our group name "WAB Precious Plastics" and also we have modified the logo to fit with our mascot. Is this ok? This is a student driven club and we are just getting off the ground here.

I believe there is a guide somewhere on how to do exactly that

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/branding @Pug Life

https://www.ecomolding.com/venting-slot/

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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Hi guys does anyone can suggest someone in Europe that can make aluminum molds, maybe someone you already work with and knows are are molds for our kind of injections

CitSciWorkshop

He's the server owner. If you have specific questions you might direct them to the @🤙v4-team or server admins.

Hi everyone! In the company I work we have every week a huge load of plastic waste and I would like to find out if there are purposes for that material. The material is a flexible PVC fabric.. The type you find on a truck trailer, bouncing castles or circus tents... Any ideas? Greetz and thanks in advance! Sam Sorry if I get this all wrong here.. I'm still finding my way in Discord

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Sampi - CCC

Hi everyone! In the company I work we have every week a huge load of plastic waste and I would like to find out if there are purposes for that material. The material is a flexible PVC fabric.. The type you find on a truck trailer, bouncing castles or circus tents... Any ideas? Greetz and thanks in advance! Sam Sorry if I get this all wrong here.. I'm still finding my way in Discord

@🤙v4-team

does it have any reinforcement ?

1:02 PM

meaning is there any thread, wire fiber or anything else in those fabrics?

1:02 PM

also would it be possible to show a pic of the material as there are many variants

1:03 PM

most of those materials can be recycled but how easily and how well depends on the exact material

1:03 PM

so it would be best if you could send a few images of the material

sponsoons

does it have any reinforcement ?

Yes it has fibre reinforcement in it.. That's what I'm most worried about

As for the type of material... It's really any PVC fabric.. We make customised covers all on demand and so the material is often adjusted to the needs of the customers... I'll try to figure out if I can upload some pictures

sponsoons

so it would be best if you could send a few images of the material

1:29 PM

1:30 PM

This is sadly enough only a tiny bit of the waste we're dealing with here.. And as I understood, it's all being burned

Hey there ! Does anyone planning to visit festival in Eidhoven this month?

Sampi - CCC

Yes it has fibre reinforcement in it.. That's what I'm most worried about

As for the type of material... It's really any PVC fabric.. We make customised covers all on demand and so the material is often adjusted to the needs of the customers... I'll try to figure out if I can upload some pictures

nah,if most of the materials you use are decently similar to what youve posted it should be pretty much the same

6:04 PM

if you've got a bit of budget as always the best, cheapest and most versatile solution would be an agglormerator (edited)

6:05 PM

since it can handle the sheet/film material without getting jammed like normal shredders

6:06 PM

also since most agglomerator cut with a combination of the blades sharpness and force, the reinforcement shouldn't be too much of a problem

6:09 PM

the main risk is that if the fiber is too long it could get caught/jammed in the extruder screw and cause damage to the screw and the extruder, both of which are costly and important things you dont wont getting damaged

6:09 PM

there are few solutions to the problem of potential jams- (edited)

6:10 PM

1.use only a injection machine as it is very tolerable of what you put in it and there is nothing much in it for the fiber to get jammed on

6:11 PM

2.ensudre that the plastic is shredded finely

6:13 PM

3.add a weak link in the motor to screw connection meaning that the link will purposely fail if anything gets jammed,the link should be made out of something cheap and easy to replace

sponsoons

1.use only a injection machine as it is very tolerable of what you put in it and there is nothing much in it for the fiber to get jammed on

using a small injection if feel is one of the best ideas as it will allow you to make small parts and trinkets without much cost, hassle or effort/time

6:14 PM

however you might also want to look at a sheet press as it would provide you with well sized sheets which could also be used in the products you make

6:15 PM

@Sampi - CCC the main thing is what are you planning or wanting to make out of that plastic? (edited)

6:17 PM

do you want something functional that can be used in your other products and reduce costs, do you want small trinkets to showcase recycling or do you want small functional parts which can be integrated into your products or used as promotional/convenience items?

6:17 PM

that is what everything will depend on

6:18 PM

the plastic youve shown seems pretty common and has many options in what you could make it into

sponsoons

the plastic youve shown seems pretty common and has many options in what you could make it into

Wow thanks for all that explanation! I'll have to do some research about a few things you've mentioned

I was mainly wondering what CAN be made of this material since there's the fiber inside and it's flexible... I was thinking if it was possible to actually create something useful out of it.. Let's say something like flowerpots

‍♂️ I just didn't know what's possible and how to best approach the matter

Sampi - CCC

Wow thanks for all that explanation! I'll have to do some research about a few things you've mentioned

I was mainly wondering what CAN be made of this material since there's the fiber inside and it's flexible... I was thinking if it was possible to actually create something useful out of it.. Let's say something like flowerpots

‍♂️ I just didn't know what's possible and how to best approach the matter

also another thing is just thought of is that you could ask in the fixing fashion channels as they should have some ideas on what you can do with the bigger pieces or what you can do with it that uses its current qualities

7:04 PM

so i dont know where you are but something that you could easily make out of that material is bags/carry bags as they are very popular and widely used esp with this thicker, stronger material they'd be absolutely perfect

7:05 PM

7:07 PM

this is what the bags look like,they should be fairly easy to make with the machines you already use for joining the plastic wether it it be sewing machines, ultrasonic welding or heat sealing

7:08 PM

esp from a recycled ecological perspective those bags are perfect, they last for a very long time, have the best qualities of cloth and plastic bags combined and are very sturdy and durable

7:09 PM

they are also good from the business side as you could probably get a pretty good profit from them

7:10 PM

the best thing is if you already make pvc plastic/vinyl products you dont even need any new machinery or things,you already have everything you need

7:10 PM

so yes @Sampi - CCC i think as of know atleast these bags are the perfect thing for you to try making

7:11 PM

and if you actually try making one it quite easy and there are a lot of free patterns available online for all types of bags

7:12 PM

also its always better to see how you can use and recycle a thing in its current form with the least changes, cost and effort

7:14 PM

let me know if you need any more info on the bags be it size, cost, patterns/designs or even anything else

sponsoons

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for this bag design you could also make the straps out of the same plastic as you will no doubt have many long, thin pieces which are not good for much else

7:15 PM

esp trimming and bandings

The bags are indeed very much possible with the bigger pieces we have. But much of the bigger pieces we already use by welding them together. So it's indeed a lot of strips and smaller pieces that are our main waste... We plan our designs for optimal fabric usage and then they are CNC cutted

Sampi - CCC

Click to see attachment 🖼️

are most of you cutting and waste similar to this?

7:51 PM

if so you should be able to make a a decent sized bag without spend all your time joining pieces together

Yeah there's a lot of different sizes

Bags are one option indeed

Do you know if the flexibility of the material brings any limitations? Let's say we would be able to shred the material and then melt it into a thicker sheet... Would that still be flexible then? Or could we make it somehow into strong, thick walled storage boxes or plant boxes or so?

Sampi - CCC

Yeah there's a lot of different sizes

Bags are one option indeed

Do you know if the flexibility of the material brings any limitations? Let's say we would be able to shred the material and then melt it into a thicker sheet... Would that still be flexible then? Or could we make it somehow into strong, thick walled storage boxes or plant boxes or so?

that should be possible,in fact sheets are probably one of the best options

It would be ideal to have little effort and not too much new products to try to get rid off since we have a lot of our normal work already

i however do not know about the exact flexiblity,but it would be a pretty good guess that the finished sheet would not be too rigid and would be decently flexible

8:00 PM

however for your purpose of making it into planter and storage boxes it should be fine, but for the storage boxes it would be best to add some reinforcement, but i feel it'll still hold up even on its own

Sampi - CCC

It would be ideal to have little effort and not too much new products to try to get rid off since we have a lot of our normal work already

i feel you on that one

8:01 PM

trying to find something that is cheap and environmental while still being not too difficult and time taking is a real headache

Indeed! Well I really appreciate you taking your time to explain all this! I have a bit more of an idea what to look for and hopefully we can figure something out!

8:06 PM

Thanks alot!

Does anyone know what the upside down b triangle means? I found it on a few plastic bottles yesterday

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Does anyone know what the upside down b triangle means? I found it on a few plastic bottles yesterday

i know there was a specific symbol on bottle caps ... after some research i found out it was just a symbol that identified who was the producing company ; maybe it's something similar there ?

Thank you Nick, I will keep that in mind and look for common plastic symbols on the plastics

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off the topic .....anybody have any leads on small portable glass crushers ? bicycle powered or cordless tool powered ?

Hi , folks what is David Hakkens user name , I have some ideas to help him out in Portugal . Thanks

onearmy

@Paul N you can just post in the #kamp-chat which if you don't have access to it, go to #🖐start-here

Hello Does anyone know where to get the PP Community intro video? A friend is making a video for youtube and would like to add the official PP Community intro but I can't find it anywhere

sponsoons

almost anywhere else the tires are re-treaded and reused until the cant be anymore and then either theyre reused or just scrapped for the metal wire and the rubber granulate

correction and addition, there's is another way of recycling rubber-its called reprocessing and involves shredding or cutting the rubber into small blocks and then devulcanizing it through a bunch of mechanical and chemical processes

Hi, does anyone have experience milling injection molds on their own? Im considering buying a 3axis cnc with 0.07 tolorance, would this be good enough? After my own litle research the industry standard is 0.127 tolorance for the molds, but to me this sounds extremely high. (tell me if this is the wrong channel)

@Mads Falk - Mold vent depths go down to 0.01, a good average for industrial CNC machines.

10:39 AM

Jackie

Injection Mold Venting Slot Design

The venting slot mainly is to removing air and gas from the mold cavity during the injection molding and material heating process

baba yaga

@Mads Falk - Mold vent depths go down to 0.01, a good average for industrial CNC machines.

Thanks for the answer:) If i understand correctly you would not recomend relying on a 0.07 tolorance cnc to create the molds because of vent depths?

I'd rather say that you can't have enough precision. I've seen lots of good second hand machines and most of them were able to hold 0.01 for hours. If you need 0.01, then your machine should provide at least the double of precision, incl. the tool measuring (very expensive). Depends really on what kind of molds you want to make. Molds have also classifications : https://www.basilius.com/blog/class-101-mold-breakdown/. I think if you look up the specs for the "HAAS VM2" (entry machine), you can get a good idea what a CNC optimized for moulds needs.

Alright thanks for all the info man:) Ive been looked at the PrintNC aswell recently, doesnt break the bank and looks aight to me. Its waaay worse than the haas vm2 (obviously) but i think i could make it work

the issue with 3d printed parts is that you really want the stiffness for precision

10:58 AM

I built a machine where I used 6mm laser cut aluminum and aluminum extrusion and it has stiffness issues with heavy cuts on wood (edited)

Yeah, id look towards milling the plastic pieces to aluminium for more stiffness. However, if i understand correctly, the parts that needs to be stiff on the PrintNc is created out of steel. (Correct me if im wrong here, and the plastic parts matter more than i say, im still new to this) (edited)

Ah, ok - for this range of budget, you want rather a CNC made from concrete/epoxy,... Problem with molds is that you need high speed spindel (10k RPM+) which adds a lot of vibration on the frame, ruining your surface finish. As next you want it fully flooded otherwise you can easily break your endmills since AL is very sticky.

11:02 AM

Check for "diy vmc youtube", there are some open sourced designs.

just remember that your development time costs money

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this one looks great : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Ey9An7MD0&ab_channel=NYCCNC

NYC CNC

Bantam CNC Desktop Milling Machine Review & Machining Parts!

baba yaga

Ah, ok - for this range of budget, you want rather a CNC made from concrete/epoxy,... Problem with molds is that you need high speed spindel (10k RPM+) which adds a lot of vibration on the frame, ruining your surface finish. As next you want it fully flooded otherwise you can easily break your endmills since AL is very sticky.

So, concrete/epoxy builds is better suited for creating aluminium molds than steel at this pricepoint?

Steel+concrete/epoxy

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in general trying to mill steel plus hold tolernaces at anything less then industrial budgets is a bit iffy

11:11 AM

so best to stick to just making alu molds

11:11 AM

grab a cheapish old machine thats retrofitted or do it yourself and youre good

baba yaga

this one looks great : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Ey9An7MD0&ab_channel=NYCCNC

Thats a sick build actually

well it's not a DIY machine

sponsoons

in general trying to mill steel plus hold tolernaces at anything less then industrial budgets is a bit iffy

Im not sure i follow, all the molds i would create are alu. I woulnt try to mill steel with it ahhaha

Falcon

well it's not a DIY machine

Yeah, still sick though. Defo looks like a viable option, if they ship to europe

Mads Falk

Yeah, still sick though. Defo looks like a viable option, if they ship to europe

I don't know how it's behaving with AL but there is a vast community around those 60x40 Aliexpress machines : https://www.google.com/search?q=60+x+40+cnc. Obviously not that rich features as probing which you really want to have, in top of being able to hack it but possible folks added this. Otherwise, for 3-5k+ you can get converted & decent mills on the second hand market. That's something future prove and adds a lot more versatility.

baba yaga

I don't know how it's behaving with AL but there is a vast community around those 60x40 Aliexpress machines : https://www.google.com/search?q=60+x+40+cnc. Obviously not that rich features as probing which you really want to have, in top of being able to hack it but possible folks added this. Otherwise, for 3-5k+ you can get converted & decent mills on the second hand market. That's something future prove and adds a lot more versatility.

Ill look into it, thanks for the help dude

@Mads Falk - no problem. Last not but least, to give you an idea for those small machines: to cut out a 8x8cm and 5mm deep pocket, it takes 20 - 30 minutes, with a step down of around 0.3mm. It's no fun to be around that machine

On a converted mill it's around 2 minutes and on a proper CNC it's about 30 secs (under full flood of course). (edited)

Yeeah, im gonna invest more money than those 6040 aliexpress machines, would not like to work with that hahaha. Those converted mills looks cool aswell, ill look into it:D

For molds it's also typically a long time spent on finishing passes

12:31 PM

You don't want to have to spend days figuring out the cooling/enclosure/chatter/backlash/other things where money is the solution. (edited)

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Hi you cool people. I am looking for the mk1 shredder drawing but I can't find them on the pp site. Can you help?

Falcon

For molds it's also typically a long time spent on finishing passes

Yeah. If you don't have good cooling or flooding, you're left with air, and a loud compressor coming with it. You have to be around all the time and blast those chips out. Chip evacuation is an absolute must, especially for AL.

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xXxOlivierxXx

Hello Does anyone know where to get the PP Community intro video? A friend is making a video for youtube and would like to add the official PP Community intro but I can't find it anywhere

Wasn't aware there is a video about. Was it in monthly news? Otherwise, we've got tons of static footage (with back links) and if needed, video footage via Instagram and other APIs.

xXxOlivierxXx

Hello Does anyone know where to get the PP Community intro video? A friend is making a video for youtube and would like to add the official PP Community intro but I can't find it anywhere

xXxOlivierxXx

Hello Does anyone know where to get the PP Community intro video? A friend is making a video for youtube and would like to add the official PP Community intro but I can't find it anywhere

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Cool, didn't realize this is about assets and the template.

9:03 PM

Interesting, dynamic videos displaying a sort of query you could append to anything. Let's see in 2025

Hey guys, nice to mee you. My friend @rybread and I are interested in learning more about precious plastics. Specifically injection molding. Glad to see there’s a community like this to learn from.

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@bsmokes | Pistachio.mx @rybread https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/injection

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

PPCapiSpain

@bsmokes | Pistachio.mx @rybread https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/injection

Thanks! We are looking for someone who already has a workspace to see if we can work with them on some product ideas (edited)

@rybread ahh. Ok. you can check in the maps...

10:34 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3qIr9pholQ | https://bloqueplas.com/index.php/medios/videos

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Hello friends

Hello mosisa

Pen

Hi from Dorset. Are there any members nearby?

Yup!

Hi, I was actually looking for the fixing.fashion Discord group. Is there a specific channel for it?

#🖐start-here

Hello #jfruit What's your project?

hello everyone i need help with creating a moulder for this

12:59 PM

anyone got any idea ?

12:59 PM

k01ns

hello everyone i need help with creating a moulder for this

are these pics from a video?

2:07 PM

if so please link the video (edited)

sponsoons

are these pics from a video?

ML VQ

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El Sistema Constructivo Bloqueplás se compone de elementos estructurales y no estructurales para la construcción de proyectos arquitectónicos, mediante un sistema constructivo integrado con elementos livianos, modulares y resistentes, que permiten instalaciones rápidas, seguras y de bajo costo. Esta elaborado con plástico recuperado, las polio...

k01ns

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Hey @k01ns I researched their work when designing the Precious Plastic Brick. Its made from very thick lasercut steel, tapped and bolted together. I suspect the mould would cost around €1200 just in lasercutting as I think the steel is around 20mm thick.

More like 3-4000. This should go over a surface grinder and get some plating as well though. Not that easy. I've seen 20 mm laser cuts bending quite a lot. All the bolts, tapping and de-burring adds easily 2 days manual work. Metal work shop rate is around 25-40 Euro / hour here in Europe.

k01ns

hello everyone i need help with creating a moulder for this

you want the machine that melts and extrudes the plastic or you want the mold?

6:35 AM

the machine youll want to get something like one of those 'reprocess extruder'

Big hellos from South Wales. I stumbled across your Precious Plastics videos a few days back whilw researching the current state of bioplastics and love what you guys are doing. Looking forward to getting involved ourselves over the coming weeks and months

pleasure to meet you all !

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hi all, not sure if that's the place to ask it but i'm giving it a shot... we're thinking of starting a mixed workshop, and as i dig in i see that i'm a bit confused with the differences between the extrusion and the injection machines. if i need to choose one of them- it seems i'd better go with the extrusion, right? it looks to me like it has more options of making stuff, and also can do pretty much the same like the injection, or am i missing something?

EllaS

hi all, not sure if that's the place to ask it but i'm giving it a shot... we're thinking of starting a mixed workshop, and as i dig in i see that i'm a bit confused with the differences between the extrusion and the injection machines. if i need to choose one of them- it seems i'd better go with the extrusion, right? it looks to me like it has more options of making stuff, and also can do pretty much the same like the injection, or am i missing something?

it depends what products you want to make and the colouring of the finished product. The injection is also a cheaper machine to build and is great for smaller products and can give a high level of detail depending on the mould you use. The extrusion machine can be used as an injection but it is difficult to manage when working with smaller moulds as it brings out a continuous stream of plastic rather than one shot, plus the colurs added will mix rather than giving you a spacey pattern.

EllaS

hi all, not sure if that's the place to ask it but i'm giving it a shot... we're thinking of starting a mixed workshop, and as i dig in i see that i'm a bit confused with the differences between the extrusion and the injection machines. if i need to choose one of them- it seems i'd better go with the extrusion, right? it looks to me like it has more options of making stuff, and also can do pretty much the same like the injection, or am i missing something?

extrusion will give you more quantity/volume but at the same time an extruder will also give you much less pressure

5:15 AM

ive seen a lot of people even commercially/inudstrially do a setup where the use an extruder to fill up an injection molder and then either use a lever/jack or something to squeeze the plastic into a mold/form

5:17 AM

industrially how it works generally is you have an extruder normally connected at a right angle to a second barrel, the second barrel has a ram in it, when the plastic fills up the second barrel a hydraulic cylinder activates and pushes the plastic at high pressure into a mold or form

5:18 AM

this method is commonly used and is quite liked by the smaller manufactures because it means you dont need a huge extruder especially if you only want to make big/intricate parts but not very quickly

5:19 AM

i remember seeing a version of this that fit onto normal universal extruder fitting as an addon, it was a great tool as it meant a quick change would allow you to make big or complicated parts

5:20 AM

these types of setups and machines are often used in extrusion molding of larger items like barrels,tanks and floats/boats/pontoons

5:22 AM

i think theres a youtube video showing a miniaturized/homemade version of this machine,ill try to find it but i cant remember the name

5:22 AM

IIRC somebody had posted it to this server

@benjaminpackard @Cain Czopek @Uplifted @Soulrebelart @Stomper Pupper y’all in Oakland too? Any movement on getting started? Interested!

yello , can anyone point me to a solid laser cutting site

Hugh

it depends what products you want to make and the colouring of the finished product. The injection is also a cheaper machine to build and is great for smaller products and can give a high level of detail depending on the mould you use. The extrusion machine can be used as an injection but it is difficult to manage when working with smaller moulds as it brings out a continuous stream of plastic rather than one shot, plus the colurs added will mix rather than giving you a spacey pattern.

thanks mate, that helps

so, up to your experience, for a starting point, we could do fine with a shredder and an injection? we have a workshop with all the other tools for wood and metal and we wanna add the plastic section, but do it gradually while seeing how it goes.

sponsoons

extrusion will give you more quantity/volume but at the same time an extruder will also give you much less pressure

thanks dear, lots of information i still need to go deeper to understand but still, helps a lot!

@Emjemfrem been trying. Progress has been slow. But moving sort of.

What kind of work i can do wile I'm vacation Through Europe

EllaS

thanks mate, that helps

so, up to your experience, for a starting point, we could do fine with a shredder and an injection? we have a workshop with all the other tools for wood and metal and we wanna add the plastic section, but do it gradually while seeing how it goes.

Yeah the injection is a good starting machine. But if you are wanting to add plastic into your workspace then I’d say an extrusion machine would work well because of being able to make beams

Hugh

Yeah the injection is a good starting machine. But if you are wanting to add plastic into your workspace then I’d say an extrusion machine would work well because of being able to make beams

i see. yeah its a decision to make, each of the machine has its own pros and abilities. anyways thanks so much for helping me sorting it out

take care x

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Jeffrey

Hello everyone! I just discovered the Precious Plastic initiative, and it seems amazing. I would like to start up something, but it looks like a lot of the plans or processes are aimed at full blown companies and workshops. Does anyone have tips for more hobbyist-level equipment?

the mix workspace basic equipment is pretty much at the 'hobbyist' level.

sponsoons

you want the machine that melts and extrudes the plastic or you want the mold?

Hi there. Sorry for late reply. A mold i was looking for

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YOUTH ASSOCIATION FOR SANITATION AND SANITATION IN IVORY COAST (AJSACI) N ° 1485 / PA / SG / D1 Phone: +2250777124845 / +2250102908423 ajsaci225@gmail.com Hello to you, I come by this message to request a partnership with my association and I dare to hope that you will be attentive to our request. Indeed, I just saw one of your videos on making plastic recycling machines and it caught my eye. In Africa we need this expertise and through our association we educate the population on good practices in waste management, in particular waste sorting and the promotion of jobs linked to waste recovery. Your machines represent a boon for Africa and I would sincerely like you to support us in this regard because the best waste is that which is not produced. Thank you for your attention while waiting for a favorable response from you. Good day.

Does anyone have any knowledge of chemical plastic recycling? https://www.ptonline.com/articles/chemical-recycling-ready-to-take-off

Chemical Recycling Poised to Take Off

Industry is moving from pilot plants to ice-cream tubs and other commercial products on store shelves.

Hello everyone

I am new here, and looking for somebody having a machine which could break down and small small pieces some leather (either animal or syntethic). If you can help get in touch with me! (Y)

Davison

Does anyone have any knowledge of chemical plastic recycling? https://www.ptonline.com/articles/chemical-recycling-ready-to-take-off

TLDR:

12:17 PM

"Mura’s proprietary HydroPRS process, utilizing Cat-HTR technology... uses supercritical steam to convert plastics back into the oils and chemicals they were made from.... (edited)

12:18 PM

... The... plant is expected to be operational in 2023. Itero’s proprietary pyrolysis process converts plastic waste into four products: naphtha, waxes, pyrolysis oils and gas, and liquid hydrocarbons. The planned single-module recycling facility can be scaled up with the addition of more such modules." (edited)

12:19 PM

I was expecting it to involve solvents, but steam pyrolysis makes sense.

Hello! I’m new at this thing of plastic recycling, and I was thinking on making a guitar body out of recycled plastic. I don’t have the machines already, I want to make sure that I can do it before buying or making a compression machine. My question is if the body is too big to make it with a compression machine, or if it will be ok

Leopoldo Zecca

Hello! I’m new at this thing of plastic recycling, and I was thinking on making a guitar body out of recycled plastic. I don’t have the machines already, I want to make sure that I can do it before buying or making a compression machine. My question is if the body is too big to make it with a compression machine, or if it will be ok

https://www.preciousplasticmonash.com/story1. Youtube has also similar builds.

I was referring to if I can make the body shape directly on the compression machine with a mold, with cavities for the pickups and the controls

Leopoldo Zecca

I was referring to if I can make the body shape directly on the compression machine with a mold, with cavities for the pickups and the controls

That's possible, yes. Perhaps you can create those features using inserts and a hydraulic press when the plastic is still elastic enough.

Momo und die Zeitdiebe

That's possible, yes. Perhaps you can create those features using inserts and a hydraulic press when the plastic is still elastic enough.

I was thinking on using the compression machine, that is an oven with a hydraulic press in the inside. What would be the purpose of the inserts?

The inserts create the "cavities for the pickups and the controls". Could be easier to carve them out of a block though.

Leopoldo Zecca

I was referring to if I can make the body shape directly on the compression machine with a mold, with cavities for the pickups and the controls

while possible i would not advise it unless youre already a big company with money to spare

6:41 PM

they main part being making it in one piece is way too risky

6:42 PM

so unless you have previously experimented with the sound quality with plastic i would advise you not to try it

6:44 PM

i mean if you really want to mold one what id suggest is make something like butte's compression machine and make the guitar in two parts

Leopoldo Zecca

I was thinking on using the compression machine, that is an oven with a hydraulic press in the inside. What would be the purpose of the inserts?

the main problem with this apart from the possible quality is that the oven as well as the hydraulic system or compression system would need to be way to large to be feasible

6:46 PM

it would also be very energy intensive

6:47 PM

otherwise something like what precious plastic monash has done is the best solution

6:48 PM

if you want to do it on a trial basis you could probably make the plastic block using a baking dish and an oven

6:50 PM

which is something ive tried and its a fairly good way of making one-off plastic blocks and pieces especially for trial purposes the only thing is that its comparatively a bit slow and needs stirring/agitation to prevent bubbles but even then it has lots of benefits mainly its cheap and its easy

Hi I have a question I know that this is wrong to ask but my school wants to put in a pressuse plastic system but we just don't have the know how and the resources to do it

10:06 PM

Anybody here

Hello!

5:54 PM

Can anyone tell me something about recycled plastic lumber revenue counting?

Bonjour nous sommes 2 ami qui voulons nous lancer dans cette expérience avez vous, quelque questions, avez vous un guide d utilisation en dossier qu'on peut imprimer ?

ispri

Bonjour nous sommes 2 ami qui voulons nous lancer dans cette expérience avez vous, quelque questions, avez vous un guide d utilisation en dossier qu'on peut imprimer ?

i'll send you an invite for the french speaking server in private message :)

I'm sorry

Hi !

Hiya

have the project kamp folks seen Andrew Millison's videos? https://youtu.be/f-sRcVkZ9yg

Andrew Millison

How to Recycle Waste Water Using Plants

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ispri

Bonjour nous sommes 2 ami qui voulons nous lancer dans cette expérience avez vous, quelque questions, avez vous un guide d utilisation en dossier qu'on peut imprimer ?

Bonjour ! Dans quel coin voulez vous lancer votre projet?

اه

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hi

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11:08 AM

hello everyone

4:52 PM

i want to ask how can someone join sheet press board together to make 8ft by 4ft or 8ft by 8ft board

4:57 PM

Also, what glue is good to join PP beam, sheet press and others

hi everyone, can anyone explain more about this

6:01 PM

SPOILER

6:01 PM

How can it connect with wood frame

shixin

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there are plastic connecters

7:33 PM

these connectors decide the shape of the dome

7:34 PM

7:35 PM

these are the ones used in the video but other designs use a variety of different thins

7:35 PM

mostly metal sheets which are cut then bent

7:35 PM

some others use plastic pipe which is folded and then bolted in the middle

shixin

hi everyone, can anyone explain more about this

Hey Shixin, as I mentioned over IG, discord is the right platform for all the technical questions as here we have more people to answer your questions and more people can benefit from the information. Here is also a detailed how to https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/build-a-geodesic-dome

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

thanks all

Thank you so much

Hey everyone! I'm seeing that in the bill of material excel sheet the links are al for netherland or europe. Do you know if someone prepared a sheet of material like that with the costs but for lets say north america? I will try to contact the community points and machine builders from the map in the area of course

Thank you so much for your work everyone!

Hi there! I'm Vincent from France, I want to launch my own company with the precious plastic "know how", is there somebody to help me, just to discuss first, to know if it's feasable

hi guys! what's your opinion about "Alliance To End Plastic Waste"?

vdevrand

hi guys! what's your opinion about "Alliance To End Plastic Waste"?

hey, just looked them up. the website is beautiful and it seems super legit. in my opinion, ending plastic waste means passing legislation that will incentivize companies to use less, and i didn't see anything regarding that. i could be looking over it though, as ive only spent 10 minutes reading through it.

6:27 PM

also, hello precious plastic group! i am looking into starting a 'feed yourself' company that will set up greenhouses/ food growing systems to help people provide for themselves. i am looking to source recycled material to build my greenhouses and was hoping someone here might be able to point me in the right direction.

I would say to try and work with your local community to find the resource you need to produce your product. If you need translucent PP, for example, you could find or set up a collection point for clear plastic juice bottles. If you need HDPE to build platforms, consider collecting caps and milk containers, etc...

8:49 PM

this is my new design for bricks

8:53 PM

it's good or

hi team help needed please

12:05 AM

im trying to download the blueprints ,i understand we can download these documents .i have downloaded the starter kit but when i open the pdf nothing appears is there something im doing wrong .some advice would be appreciated

karlos

im trying to download the blueprints ,i understand we can download these documents .i have downloaded the starter kit but when i open the pdf nothing appears is there something im doing wrong .some advice would be appreciated

Have you tried to open it in another browser/pdf opener? I guess you have, if you like pme one pdf in to double check the file

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I want to help

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Plastic Project

Hi all! Does anybody know how I can reach out to Dave Hakkens regarding visiting Project Kamp?

Avnih

Hi all! Does anybody know how I can reach out to Dave Hakkens regarding visiting Project Kamp?

Here's here and you can ping him if its really important

4:55 PM

You might also do so from #kamp-chat, if its related to Project Kamp

𝕃𝕆𝕂𝕀 (Colorado, USA)

You might also do so from #kamp-chat, if its related to Project Kamp

Thanks!

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𝕃𝕆𝕂𝕀 (Colorado, USA)

I would say to try and work with your local community to find the resource you need to produce your product. If you need translucent PP, for example, you could find or set up a collection point for clear plastic juice bottles. If you need HDPE to build platforms, consider collecting caps and milk containers, etc...

Thank you so much!

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Hi everyone... I’m proposing the creation of dining furniture to support circular economy for my thesis final project. The one question that i got asked a lot from my professors is that they’re worried weather the process of melting plastic & the fumes that comes with it is sustainable or not. They said that the concept of circular economy & this manufacturing process is contradicting since it still produces fumes that are harmful for the workers & environment therefore its not sustainable. Do anyone have any suggestions/ resources that i can use to convince them to approve this manufacturing process?

Control the fumes with proper suction and filtering?

Hi everyone,I am having problems with abs plastic,I am having tiny hole on the sheet,what can I do to avoid having holes on the sheet

melissayemima

Hi everyone... I’m proposing the creation of dining furniture to support circular economy for my thesis final project. The one question that i got asked a lot from my professors is that they’re worried weather the process of melting plastic & the fumes that comes with it is sustainable or not. They said that the concept of circular economy & this manufacturing process is contradicting since it still produces fumes that are harmful for the workers & environment therefore its not sustainable. Do anyone have any suggestions/ resources that i can use to convince them to approve this manufacturing process?

in comparison to the fumes and effects of the plastic both in making it in the first place as well as not recycling or doing anything about it, the fumes release in recycling it are negligible and its thus circular

4:49 PM

not recycling plastic due to the fumes would be like not taking a solution because its not 100% perfect regardless of what problems it solves

4:50 PM

but mainly for what you need to tell you professors is that with proper fume collection + filtering and safety the fumes will not be a problem

4:50 PM

in a lot of cases just doing it outside with a fan and you or the people on the machines wearing a mask is enough

4:52 PM

of course you still need other simple safety equipment like gloves, eye/face protection etc but the risk from fumes even with semi decent ventilation is not much

4:52 PM

but mainly-wear masks,gloves and do it in a well ventilated area and that should be enough

Hello everybody I am new here located in south Germany (between Stuttgart and Ulm). If you need any support regarding plastic technology just let me know (studied it and going further next year) I also have a few possibilities like welding and so on. Have a great day^^

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Hi Everyone, i recently watched the intall solar panels and electronics video from Project Kamp. I was wondering if we can have acces to a list with the components? I am trying to replicate a similar installation with batteries for my cottage in La Coruña,Spain.

Hi, does anybody know who I have to contact for adding our pin (Precious Plastic Lübeck) to the precious plastic map?

Florian_All_We_Shape

Hi, does anybody know who I have to contact for adding our pin (Precious Plastic Lübeck) to the precious plastic map?

You can do it yourself: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map just click 'My Pin'

I came from there.It says "In order to have your pin accepted on our map you have to collect at least 6 stars in the Ally Checklist. Learn more about the Community Program and how you can join." Then I clicked the link for "If something doesn't work" and landed in this thread here

(edited)

Huh, I'm having trouble even logging into mine... It just bumps be to the create account page (even though the password reset appears to have worked). Not sure now, lol

8:22 PM

@Joseph Do you have any ideas about these issues? We'd love some master advice

It's a little slow. Oh we even have a special issue. There is a pin for Precious Plastic Lübeck, but last summer someone else (overbeck-gesellschaft) created it. Now we own the machines and workspace, but the former ones access seems to be corrupt

Thanks for bringing up @Joseph

Florian_All_We_Shape

I came from there.It says "In order to have your pin accepted on our map you have to collect at least 6 stars in the Ally Checklist. Learn more about the Community Program and how you can join." Then I clicked the link for "If something doesn't work" and landed in this thread here

(edited)

So, it appears that you have to complete all 6 requirements to become an ally. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/guides/community-program

Thanks and yes, we do.

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Hi y'all.... I don't know about that issue exactly. But the best thing to do is email hugh at community@preciousplastic.com

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melissayemima

Hi everyone... I’m proposing the creation of dining furniture to support circular economy for my thesis final project. The one question that i got asked a lot from my professors is that they’re worried weather the process of melting plastic & the fumes that comes with it is sustainable or not. They said that the concept of circular economy & this manufacturing process is contradicting since it still produces fumes that are harmful for the workers & environment therefore its not sustainable. Do anyone have any suggestions/ resources that i can use to convince them to approve this manufacturing process?

is there anything the fumes can benefit? maybe they can provide energy somewhere?

Hi all, I'm also jumping on this fume topic. Based on this article of PP : https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety It looks like the fumes we are dealing with are hydrocarbons. So instead of just filtering them out with activated carbon, we could be able to reburn them.

10:14 AM

The thing is, since we only use electricity as heat source, it isn't really a possible solution for PP as it is

Hello everyone. I have 8 plus years of experience in injection mold manufacturing, design and injection process. So if you have some more technical question regarding the mould itself or the process feel free to contact me , I will try to help. I'm new here so if there is some technical section on the discord where I can be more helpful tell me please. Thank you

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Takaka

Hello everyone. I have 8 plus years of experience in injection mold manufacturing, design and injection process. So if you have some more technical question regarding the mould itself or the process feel free to contact me , I will try to help. I'm new here so if there is some technical section on the discord where I can be more helpful tell me please. Thank you

Hey, great to have you here! For more technical channels I would say #archived-plastic #archived-machines and #deleted-channel are the best. Thank you for offering your expertise, we have a lot of people here who are always keen to learn more! (edited)

Any blockchain people here ? send me a DM if so

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Joseph

Any blockchain people here ? send me a DM if so

Tried, but no dice

I'd love to chat blockchain if you're interested

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Hello, did some of you bought something to bmh solution in turquia? I bought two machine parts and didn answer my emails

@juaco - yes, and he was responsive. I am surprised.

Momo und die Zeitdiebe

@juaco - yes, and he was responsive. I am surprised.

You give me hopes, I'll wait for an answer, thanks

juaco

You give me hopes, I'll wait for an answer, thanks

Well, that was a year ago. Didn't see him much on FB anymore. If it comes to PP machining 'business', things are up-side-down since quite while. Best of luck

I feel like the pricing on PP machines is often way too low for the amount of labor required

True true, on the other hand it has to be reasonable though, using normal shop rates is something to look at (25e/h). Normal ratio is 50% labor, 50% material. I think most of us consider this a hobby, or a sort of charity activity - in hope it's going somewhere beyond that one day; hard to say. Remember the good old times of 500e -1000e machines

| now it's 5x times, as average and still nothing really added in value - better wiring, etc... at best. Things go banana as soon you involve high quality materials, 500- 700 for the plunger/barrel alone.

12:16 PM

25e/h is the shop rate, the worker himself walks out with 10 - 15e/h. That's like that since very long ... (edited)

scammer in dms

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12:42 PM

@👮Moderator

maybe link their user ID

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12:59 PM

same got one too

dangit... here we go again; if you receive these kinds of messages in DM, please post here like @『Sʜιαҭsǫuαḋ』 or @martinocko9 or send info to a @👮Moderator , we'll take care of banning them quickly

also report them as spam to discord

1:06 PM

supposedly they're trying to deal with the problem more

Falcon

supposedly they're trying to deal with the problem more

thanks for mentionning it

scamer

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@Deleted User

lol just before I was about to report it also

just bot account

Guys, you can also disable the receiving of direct messages from server members. Usually, this is only needed for large servers, but we're becoming large

4:04 PM

This is under 'Privacy Settings'

4:04 PM

It is a good protection to have in any server, since they'll first need to send you a friend request.

Hello everyone

Getting DMs from them too.

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Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Sorry, I'm not sure. I've always had some issue with plastic getting stuck in the hopper. What happens to me is the flakes will form an arc and stop falling into the feed section of the barrel. I think I'll be adding something to my hopper to agitate the plastic flakes so they keep moving down.

have come up with any idea of how to solve that?

@👮Moderator some scam via DM: @Deleted User

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Working on our pandemic garden this week. Next up is the vertical garden with the plant pots we make in the shop.

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because of the current economic situation and food cost inflation, I started 3 garden plots for me and my employees. We are raising chicken ourselves that cost 1/3 of the supermarket, and vegetables. Green beans locally at the supermarket I saw was priced at 9usd per kilo. In a country where people make 10usd a day. Cabbage is 3usd per kilo now. (edited)

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DuckWeedVN#8065

Bartek

have come up with any idea of how to solve that?

I have two extrusion machines, one has trapezoidal hopper and the other has cone hopper. Trapezoidal has better flow for falling down into the feed section of the barrel, but needs some help to be agitated. can be something simple like attaching a small motor with uneven weight attached to it so it vibrates....although i havent tested this, it might be annoying. otherwise something like a rod that is bent and moves around close to the fill section to help knock things in.

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Here we go, got another spammer / bot

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Hi ALl

1:39 PM

Where can a man find or buy blueprints for moulds?

1:39 PM

I am working on a project in Accra and I

1:40 PM

am currently wanting only the plans for blocks, or anything else that can be made. Was quite surprised plans themselves aren't on the bazaar

anthiawe

Where can a man find or buy blueprints for moulds?

you have good timing mate

2:06 PM

here,most of these are quite simple

2:06 PM

heres my fav (edited)

2:07 PM

https://grabcad.com/chris.luizzi-2/models

Chris Luizzi | CAD Models | GrabCAD

3D CAD models designed by GrabCAD Community member Chris Luizzi

2:07 PM

most of his molds are the simple 2 part molds that work on our machines

2:08 PM

https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694/890290442246172682

2:08 PM

heres a bunch

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https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888903994376201/905852381722472468

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https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888879126478849/911557660661407744

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https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694/890286861799534622 read down from here

2:14 PM

^ all of these are free BTW

2:14 PM

but tbh i havent seen any blueprints for molds around on the net

2:14 PM

its majorly 3d models

anthiawe

am currently wanting only the plans for blocks, or anything else that can be made. Was quite surprised plans themselves aren't on the bazaar

wouldnt that be since most of the 'common' precious plastic mold files/designs are open source or have other wise been shared?

2:16 PM

^ feel free to correct me on this yall

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ah ok,thanks,i didnt know this

2:55 PM

but also @anthiawe take a look at the 'how-tos'

2:55 PM

most of them files attatched

2:56 PM

sadly i havent found one unified source for all the mold which is something i might do once i find the time

sponsoons

sadly i havent found one unified source for all the mold which is something i might do once i find the time

since trawling through the forums and various sites is a pain

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are these files youve designed?

3:05 PM

cuz i dont remember some of them being released or seeing some of them before

3:09 PM

@Momo und die Zeitdiebe what is this part?

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ah ok,nice

3:10 PM

oh ok,it was in the flute mold

3:13 PM

also one thing id advise is not to put the grabcad links along with the others as then their licence would impose onto that of the grabcad links and thats not something id like,it would also take a lot of effort/be impossible to ask all the original creators for the license or permission

https://osr-plastic.org/howto/ is this just a duplicate of the precious plastic how tos?

Howtos

OpenSource - Plastic Recycling

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so i just looked at their license and a few others and basically its a minefield and im not a lawyer, so im just gonna put the links separately and leave it to individuals (edited)

3:52 PM

so tldr while we should be ok id prefer not to go into it since A. Its legal and B. I cant guarantee how the next party will use it so ill abstain from adding any licenses and simply link those molds and machines onto a collaborative file

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ik i read it however its legal and im not a laywer but mainly how far does non commercial extend?not charging for the mold?not charging for products made with the mold?not monetising videos about the molds?

5:08 PM

its tricky and imo simpler to avoid it and just provide links

5:08 PM

also wasnt precious plastic official doing something with grabcad?

5:08 PM

@deleted-role ^

5:09 PM

whats the status on the grabcad rn?

We tested out putting the new shredder design on grabcab. Here is it https://workbench.grabcad.com/workbench/projects/gcSJAVKv6y8QOYFetaslBwlShP3B6b9Z01MraqFmVLTbgM#/space/gcrSkUc00TRtifrE_-QUmAUmKepF_-m6F9FoN5O_Texze-/folder/10697007 We still have decided on a final way/place to store files between grabcad/wikifactory/github moving forward (edited)

GrabCAD

The GrabCAD platform drives additive manufacturing at scale through connected solutions, including GrabCAD Print, GrabCAD Shop & the GrabCAD SDKs.

Joseph

We tested out putting the new shredder design on grabcab. Here is it https://workbench.grabcad.com/workbench/projects/gcSJAVKv6y8QOYFetaslBwlShP3B6b9Z01MraqFmVLTbgM#/space/gcrSkUc00TRtifrE_-QUmAUmKepF_-m6F9FoN5O_Texze-/folder/10697007 We still have decided on a final way/place to store files between grabcad/wikifactory/github moving forward (edited)

ah nice,thanks for the update

@sponsoons do you have a preferred platform?

im fine with anything that works

5:32 PM

so no preference really

5:33 PM

I've been using the grabcad library cuz its a decent source of free models but i haven't yet used the parts of grabcad or any of the other platforms much

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Some of precious plastic kisii creations

Hi all - I'm Leo, I live near Caerphilly in South Wales and I'm interested in getting involved in whatever way is helpful. During the day I'm a web developer, and in my spare time I like growing mushrooms and cooking

leo_wales started a thread. 11/20/2021 11:11 PM

Hi all, I came here through the Project Kamp site. Is there any place where discussions specifically around that project are going on?

Mathijs

Hi all, I came here through the Project Kamp site. Is there any place where discussions specifically around that project are going on?

hey there @Mathijs , you can check out #kamp-chat & #development

If you can't see those channels, head over to #🖐start-here and use the buttons to obtain the Project Kamp role!

is anyone willing to fill out a 2 minute survey on composting? i'm a UMass student working on a research project. https://forms.gle/frhGfzLGg93xfuQf7

Waste Management Survey

Thank you for participating in our survey. I hope you are able to consider your convenience or lack their of in your answer. If you have any questions about the survey, I am available to clarify any areas for you. Please fill this quick survey and let me know your thoughts (your answers will be anonymous). Disclaimer: By filling out this form ...

Hi I'm Nathaniel I live in Houston Texas USA I'm try to get some of my friends to help collect plastic

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Interesting news on Recycling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGhaSTLV_vI

PBS NewsHour

How Maine is transforming who pays for recycling

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idk if this is good here but is a good song with not a lot of likes

3:02 AM

https://youtu.be/p8bkoP-HnCI

Nick Wyke Music

No birds in the air, no fish in the sea

i forgot who mentioned the Alliance to end plastic waste... but i just did some research and found out that it is headed by the CEO of shell and a board member of monsanto! adds a bit of a fishy smell to it.

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Hello everyone! I’m Manola and I’m from chile, Does anyone know how can I reach Dave Hakkens? Im currently working on my title proyect which consist of a persuasive campaign for the implementention of unconventional recycling technologies here in Chile. but I need a “client“ in this case Precious Plastic would be the ‘’client ’’ so I really neeed to make the connection with One Army or Precious Plastic, otherwise my university will not consider my project viable.

7:05 PM

Please I could REALLY USE THE HELP!!! IM DESPERATE

7:06 PM

OR DOES ANYONE KNOW WITH WHO I NEED TO TALK TO ?

A client is someone to whom you would sell your product. I don't think PP buys product, so they wouldn't be a good consideration for a client.

@Manola you can just @ davehakkens but yeah I agree with Loki I'm not sure PP or One Army would work as a client.

Hey everyone! Just wanted to introduce myself, my name is Willow and I go to a university in America and am studying environmental peace-building, essentially how we can create unique closed loop communities around the world to become more peaceful and live as one with the land again- just like @davehakkens ! I discovered Precious Plastic a few years ago but have been updating myself on project kamp tonight and found this page! Super excited to be in contact with everyone.

4:04 AM

^if anyone has any knowledge on ideas like Project Kamp or indigenous knowledge or culture please reach out!

willowv123

Hey everyone! Just wanted to introduce myself, my name is Willow and I go to a university in America and am studying environmental peace-building, essentially how we can create unique closed loop communities around the world to become more peaceful and live as one with the land again- just like @davehakkens ! I discovered Precious Plastic a few years ago but have been updating myself on project kamp tonight and found this page! Super excited to be in contact with everyone.

Thank you so much for answering, I Believe I express myself wrong , I don’t want PP as a cliente, I want to work with Precious Plastic as a guest for my persuasive campaign @davehakkens

Hello, I am Manuel García, I am from Colombia, I have tried to download plans, but request an authorization, how can I obtain the authorization?

manuelk

Hello, I am Manuel García, I am from Colombia, I have tried to download plans, but request an authorization, how can I obtain the authorization?

can you send a screenshot? it might just be a browser thing

Hi everyone does anyone know how to make sheet wrap or any kind of like wrap from recycled material?

https://twitter.com/Raspberry_Pi/status/1465348487361540099

Raspberry Pi (@Raspberry_Pi)

Congrats Jerry de Vos

He designed a simple handheld device, which is powered by Raspberry Pi Zero, and can identify the five most common types of plastic. AND it’s the 2021 James Dyson Award ‘Sustainability’ winner! https://t.co/0qD9ec8bvk

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8:12 AM

Anyone in Hangzhou China?

@METAMIKEY3D hey bro. Im in Foshan

Got some scamy discord server link in my DMs, by someone i never spoken with, be careful with random links and shady things

9:21 PM

what someone from this server

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Nik Seelie

what someone from this server

if it was someone from this server why dont you report them? Take the user id and msg id and pass on?

Hi is any one from Egypt?

@Amr someone asked the same question in #🥙middle-east so yeah.

I wish to start a Precious Plastic Hong Kong group as well

2:30 AM

Could I start this ? Do I need any formal approval from Precious Plastic ??

@NickySo I'm pretty sure there are already workspaces in Hong Kong I'm sure you'll be a welcome addition as either a workspace or a person who helps there... as long as you have the funds and the means you can start a workspace. precious plastic is a pool of information they don't make decisions for you.

Great

2:32 AM

Glad to hear this

2:32 AM

I see 3 workstations on the map

Hi, does anyone on here use Huel and if so have you tried using the plastic composite pouches for melting? I asked Huel what they are made from but they wouldn’t give me an answer because they are made bespoke for them! Cheers

they say it's not recyclable so I assume it has mixed material layers and probably a non-plastic layer as well.

I can understand it’s not recyclable in the conventional way ie making it into new versions of itself, but when used as an addition to pure plastic such as hdpe it gives quite a nice finish with the foil of part. I think they are missing a trick here as there is a lot of discontent on the forums about its lack of “recyclable” pouches.

but that's not "recyclable" it's "downcyclable"

Ah good point! So it would render the whole piece non recyclable then?

not with traditional methods

What are non- traditional methods?

an example of downcycling is making PET bottles into a table, in Denmark, the vast majority of PET bottles are recycled into new bottles. If they are instead "recycled" into a table, they are mixed together and can not be made back in to the original item. This is a waste of high quality, recyclable material. If the packets are mixed material, they are probably ONLY downcyclable as you can never make the same item from the waste.

1:27 PM

generally you don't want to mix non-recyclable materials with recyclable as it will just make more non-recyclable materials

Is that not what the majority of PP community do? Make plastic into other objects? Are they then not recyclable? (Thanks for answering me btw, I’m a newbie!)

the goal of precious plastic is(should be) to upcycle waste plastic into new products. The question is just how you define "waste plastic".

1:30 PM

There are large sections of waste plastic that are recyclable and, IMO, PP should not touch (edited)

1:30 PM

But there are also fractions that are not recyclable which is very fitting.

1:30 PM

or are underrecycled

1:31 PM

for example, in Denmark we have a company that offers flakes of household waste

1:31 PM

underrecycled as it isn't as pure

1:32 PM

perfect stuff to use

1:32 PM

but using bottle caps when they could be made back into bottle caps isn't ideal

1:33 PM

because your table will never be able to be made back into bottle caps

1:34 PM

but finding what exactly to use is really hard

1:35 PM

anything that normally goes into an incineration plant is a good idea to use

(edited)

hmm i don't share your opinion @Falcon from my point of view, plastic recycling through PP machines aims to produce new products (long lasting preferably) out of plastic waste. If your sourcing is correct -not mixing polymers- and you don't add stuff to it -additives/paint/polish/etc...- then there is no problem to recycle it again my definition of plastic recycling is quite simple tbh : melt & remould. respect non mixing rule + temperature ranges + try to avoid products which would have harmful additives, and your product is good to go ! @one blue eye (edited)

Ok so are PP being unintentionally misleading by encouraging this? They do say to stamp new products with the relevant symbols but would a bottle top making factory not be able to reuse the table as it is made from bottle tops?

I've been working in this space for six months now @Nick - PP France and when defining your impact as a company, it's really hard to say anything if you don't know where your waste would have gone.

1:37 PM

not if you make one with huel packs

@one blue eye

1:38 PM

but for bottle caps, the food safety of the plastic is a concern which makes it very difficult

Falcon

but for bottle caps, the food safety of the plastic is a concern which makes it very difficult

?

we're currently buying granulate made from a variety of products and we found out that one of the materials we were using is actually in high demand. So we stopped using it since we are not recycling "better" than industry, and if we use up all the plastic available, industry will just use virgin plastic

1:40 PM

food contact materials @Nick - PP France

1:40 PM

hard to recycle food contact materials in the first place

Falcon

not if you make one with huel packs

@one blue eye

Too much foil to make anything just from Huel packs! It would rust

if you mix I mean

@Falcon yeah i got that, but i don't understand how food grade has a bad impact on your process; i would say it's the opposite. Using food-grade products gives you the confirmation that the product doesn't have harmful additives (which isn't the case for example with fire-retardant products, like cable insulation, electric/electronic devices or car interiors)

I mean if you make it into a table it's very unlikely that it would be able to be recyled INTO a food grade product

Maybe if I make something long lasting like a ornament the technology might evolve the future to recycle my Huel/plastic hybrid pieces!

quality and characteristics of plastics are the biggest barrier to large scale recycling projects and we should try not to get in the way of that

1:45 PM

even try to educate companies on how to make their products more recyclable

1:45 PM

like not adding foil to packaging

What plastic do you primarily use @Falcon ?

PP and PE

1:47 PM

majority are from end-of-life sources

1:48 PM

where the plastics have degraded enough to not be reused in the original use case

1:48 PM

though we have not gotten around to testing the integrity of the plastic chains yet (edited)

Such as?

garden furniture or old waste bins

1:49 PM

very UV damaged

1:49 PM

also some dairy factory products which have fiberglass and are a pain to recycle

1:50 PM

I'd just say to be strict on what you consider recycling

This has given me a lot to think about thanks, I will need to try and leave the kerbside collection alone and find another source

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always consider if it's recycling or downcycling when you make decisions and you will improve over time

1:51 PM

you don't have to drop everything to do it but just consider it

1:51 PM

do some research on your local waste streams to see what gets recycled and what doesn't

1:52 PM

then you also have something to discuss with customers

That was one of my issues as where I am in the UK our recycling waste gets transported over 400 mile to be processed.

1:54 PM

almost 2x denmark

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2x small

1:56 PM

I've also talked a lot with a local startup who is looking into recycled plastic supply chains about these considerations as the "real" impact is really hard to identify for us small consumers.

1:56 PM

hopefully they become something nice

hi i want to build a simple shearder, where i can find the files?

Falcon

I've also talked a lot with a local startup who is looking into recycled plastic supply chains about these considerations as the "real" impact is really hard to identify for us small consumers.

Great remarks there on the essence of recycling, I'm to inexperienced in the matter to know whether all of them make sense but I couldn't agree more we should take into consideration the industry as a collaborator in our goal of recycling well! Are you in CPH or Århus or somewhere local?

I'm located in Aarhus

the startup I talked with is in copenhagen

C’è qualcuno di italiano?

@mech.creature https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/showcase/shredder.html

Start a Shredder Workspace to Recycle Plastic

Learn how to find a space, build machines, sell the shreds and help fix the plastic waste problem.

@Kat please provide my account the status of bazaar-seller

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@👮Moderator spam

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one blue eye

That was one of my issues as where I am in the UK our recycling waste gets transported over 400 mile to be processed.

Where about in the UK are you? I might be about to help you if you are need of plastic. I can get ungranulated polypropylene at a good .

Hi everyone ✌️, can you please help me pushing this video? https://youtu.be/biWzDr4Wh7g A friend of mine helped me making the video and I think it’s showing the work in good quality for the first time. I don’t like to follow the rules of algorithms, but if it’s helping to recycle plastic? I think the YouTube algorithm is pushing a video better if it clicked, liked and shared in the first 24h. Thanks a lot and let me know what you think. (I will also publish the screwdriver set on the bazar tomorrow.) Have a great time and happy recycling!

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Johannplasto

Kunststoff Recycling vom Müll bis zum Endprodukt

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Hey guys, I am Doruk, kinda new here. Just wanted to introduce myself:) I have co-founded a start-up called Studio Blai (https://www.instagram.com/studioblai/) with my friends a couple months back in Istanbul/Turkey. Now we are kickstarting our workshop with a sheet-press machine that is a combination of Precious Plastic and Brothers Make, and a shredder. On parallel, we are exploring a workflow with oven+cold press with hopes of increasing the efficiency and reducing the power usage. Hopefully, we will also be selling our products soon!!

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Buongiorno.. ho realizzato uno macchina a compressione (forno con pressa) avrei bisogno di un consiglio per creare lo stampo ( volevo partire da un vaso) c’è qualcuno che può aiutarmi?

Just putting it out there.. I am developing a low cost, low energy, technique to fuse plastic film and bag waste into structures and sculptures. By wrapping many many layers of any thin, and pliable thermoplastic material around a form and encase in hot sand, the radiant heat will fuse into a solid structure. The temperature never gets hot enough to melt or create an outgassing. It's not Precious, as you end up with a crusty sand , But it is an instant gratification technique, no fuss or muss sorting, shredding, melting etc Just need a volume of sand hot enough to fuse the layers together.(170 °c) . Anyway, I'm messing around with the recipe, www.plasticrete.net Peace Pete.

I need help

10:19 PM

I want to go to project kamp in Portugal

10:19 PM

I have no way to contact anyone

10:20 PM

My email is flyinwrenches@gmail.com

10:20 PM

I don't understand this website

10:21 PM

I want a normal life, I can help

@JosephRupert as far as I am aware project kamp isn't currently accepting any visitors. you can go to projectkamp.com/support to make a donation or see if there's a job on there you can come and do for them. and you can also go to #kamp-chat to chat about the project. if you haven't joined the project kamp section go to #🖐start-here and react to the specific post to be added to the section...

I have no way to contact or donate

10:27 PM

I'm stuck in Germany

well those things can be done online too

There must be a project I can help with

yeah if you go to the link I sent you can see what they need

Ok

like previously someone sent them some go pro equipment

I only have skills

10:29 PM

I'm worried,its winter

yeah they're not as active right now they're going by seasons and they're gonna start making videos again later on.

10:30 PM

if you can video edit that is a high priority skill on their list

The links dont work

10:30 PM

I'm a helicopter technician

10:30 PM

But I can build anything

https://projectkamp.com/support

support

10:32 PM

it would really be better if you went to #🖐start-here and joined the kamp chat section to chat with people there....

I tried that

10:33 PM

Your email link didn't work

10:33 PM

I'm new here

what email link?

https://projectkamp.com/support

support

it works fine for me maybe show me screenshot of what's wrong

it is not an email it is a link to a website

10:37 PM

the best way to contact Dave and the group is through here

10:37 PM

you can go to #🖐start-here

10:37 PM

react to this message

10:37 PM

with

10:38 PM

and you'll have access to the project kamp section where you can chat with others about the specifics of how you can help!

I'm lost

on which part?

This website is confusing

10:41 PM

I tried project kamp

i do agree that when I first got on discord it was a bit disorienting but you just need to press on this: #🖐start-here and on the reaction

I'm setting up everything, I have no bank account yet

that's ok you don't have to donate I was just giving you your options in response to your message...

Understood

10:43 PM

Well my email is flyinwrenches@gmail.com if anyone has ideas

10:43 PM

I can help

Liri (They/He)

i do agree that when I first got on discord it was a bit disorienting but you just need to press on this: #🖐start-here and on the reaction

I'll try

do you know how to react? it's really easy on the message since is already there....

10:45 PM

I cant

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you don't need to message

I'm not allowed to chat there

just press on the project kamp icon

10:46 PM

on the the second message

Ok

Liri (They/He)

on the the second message

Then what?

if you reacted you should have access to the project kamp section

10:48 PM

can you show me another screenshot of the #🖐start-here page?

No it doesn't work

10:48 PM

ok you reacted! so if you swipe to the right on your phone

10:49 PM

you can look through all the channels avaliable to you

10:49 PM

and scroll through to find the project kamp section

10:50 PM

this is what mine looks like

10:50 PM

because I also joined the other sections (edited)

swipe the other way...

10:50 PM

that's the people on the server

10:51 PM

Got it

10:51 PM

Thank you

yay!!

10:51 PM

yes of course!

How do I save this website so I can come back to it?

10:57 PM

Got it

10:58 PM

Email verfied

you can write the link down somewhere if you'd like

Ok

11:03 PM

Why can I chat on the main site?

what do you mean why?

Finally figured out how to use Discord haha yeeees!

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Welcome

Wellcome

Hello: I’m looking at starting up a project but have one fundamental question. I see lots of various things being made of various plastic but P.E.T Dosent seem to be being used? What is the reason or am I wrong?

Hi guys! Hope you're all doing well

I'm French but I work for a UK-based company that designs and sells plastic parts for safety in the sector of heavy weight vehicles. Due to Brexit, we moved one part of our logistic operations in Slovakia (it is where I'm based at the moment) I've already been working with Precious Plastic Slovakia as well as Precious Plastic Lancaster as we sometimes have some products that can't be sold for some reason (bad colour or bad size / fitting) I'd like to know if any other PP in the European Union would / could receive 500kg or products free of charge to be recycled. Looking forward to hear from any of you

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jacksnook

Hello: I’m looking at starting up a project but have one fundamental question. I see lots of various things being made of various plastic but P.E.T Dosent seem to be being used? What is the reason or am I wrong?

PET's melting temperature is a very small range which unfortunately makes it really hard to work with. Often people just end up with a bunch of microplastic dust instead of an actual product etc.

Hello! Is there someone from Portugal?

Liri (They/He)

PET's melting temperature is a very small range which unfortunately makes it really hard to work with. Often people just end up with a bunch of microplastic dust instead of an actual product etc.

Okay thank you very much. I’m guessing the majority of what we collect will be PET. What do most people do with it? Thanks for the reply

jacksnook

Okay thank you very much. I’m guessing the majority of what we collect will be PET. What do most people do with it? Thanks for the reply

you should probably not be collecting PET not a lot of people are doing stuff with it.

Liri (They/He)

you should probably not be collecting PET not a lot of people are doing stuff with it.

Where doing beach and river clean ups so it’s not driven by choice. Need to find an outlet for it.

Hi, I'm new to recycle plastic, Although what @Liri (They/He) wrote, i want to explore this polymer as well (had some good experience with plastic bags that gave me nice and flexible material) can someone share information how to create 3-5 millimeter material from p.e.t. i tried to heat some compressed bottles for 30 minutes in 250 degrees celsius and did not get meltdown as i had in the plastic bags

jacksnook

Where doing beach and river clean ups so it’s not driven by choice. Need to find an outlet for it.

find industrial commercial recyclers,they want that stuff like no tommorow

zach sigal

Hi, I'm new to recycle plastic, Although what @Liri (They/He) wrote, i want to explore this polymer as well (had some good experience with plastic bags that gave me nice and flexible material) can someone share information how to create 3-5 millimeter material from p.e.t. i tried to heat some compressed bottles for 30 minutes in 250 degrees celsius and did not get meltdown as i had in the plastic bags

Hey zach, you should dive into this document : https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222220710_Recycling_of_PET/download press ctrl+f and type "degradation"; you'll get more insight on the specifics of PET recycling and the issues caused by both thermal and hydro degradation of PET

@🤙v4-team Hello!! I would like to volunteer and to help you on the Kamp (from february until june) and find out how the community works! Nothing is too gross or too big for me to do

Can we contact each other? colline.toutain@gmail.com

sponsoons

find industrial commercial recyclers,they want that stuff like no tommorow

Agree. You need to recycle the fluff and scraps the others do not recycle. Sachets, bags, as example. Shrink wrap,

Colline Toutain

@🤙v4-team Hello!! I would like to volunteer and to help you on the Kamp (from february until june) and find out how the community works! Nothing is too gross or too big for me to do

Can we contact each other? colline.toutain@gmail.com

With V4-team you are addressing the people who helped make Precious Plastic Version 4 happen, but I assume by "kamp" you mean Project Kamp? In that case it's maybe best to post in #kamp-chat. For your question: Guess most action will happen from April onwards, so watch out for updates here and on the ProjectKamp YouTube channel!

Butte (PP Philippines)

Agree. You need to recycle the fluff and scraps the others do not recycle. Sachets, bags, as example. Shrink wrap,

same,shrink wrap isnt commercially recycled?

sponsoons

same,shrink wrap isnt commercially recycled?

Not often, hard to shred, just clogs up machines

Butte (PP Philippines)

Not often, hard to shred, just clogs up machines

ah ok,same like bags/film?

Yea

Hi guys

First time here. I am working on my V2 Mahalo device. It's a piece of public street furniture that carries magnetically attached litter pickers and plastic bags. You place it somewhere and it becomes easier for people to engage in litter picking activities. I made my V1 from wood and steel but it was murdered, chopped up and stripped for parts

Anyway. I am stuck on the design stage for V2 I go over The whole project and designs it in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq51y7eT97s&t Put essentially would like to injection mold it from recycled plastic and reinforce it with rebar. My worries are. 1. This is too large to injection mold at home. 2. The rebar is unnecessary. Does anyone have any general input or advice for me?

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5:31 PM

Anyway, please reach out if this is something you like. I am looking to make new friends and advisors in this space as I am super broke and can't afford to make too many more mistakes

I'm considering 3d printing the unit as well

I watch the project camp number 38 where they talked about woodchippers. I wanted some how to get in touch with Dave and give him the benefit of my experience gained over the last 5 years in a project not dissimilar to the one that they are undertaking. I now have a Massey Ferguson 35 HP (1961)tractor with a Cecato Olindo monster chipper run from the power take off of the tractor. This is the third wood chipper that I have owned and gradually over the time I realised that you need to buy a powerful Beast with automatic wood feed. started with a powerful freestanding electric tipper too slow and not powerful enough, so I told that one and bought a power takeoff model but manual feed, it did the job but was very very hard work search for hard on the hands. So I finally bit the bullet and invested in a professional machine automatic feed which works splendidly, we make tons literally of woodchip to mulch the trees that we plant and make paths in our no dig market garden. I am very inexperienced with social media and really do not understand how this thing works. will Dave read this, or is it possible to contact him direct ?

Hey friends, just getting deeper into the rabbit hole of open source hardware . Apart from this awesome project which are your favorite open source hardware projects you like to share. Have a beautiful day Hannes

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hannes0815

Hey friends, just getting deeper into the rabbit hole of open source hardware . Apart from this awesome project which are your favorite open source hardware projects you like to share. Have a beautiful day Hannes

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OSE ope source ecology

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hannes0815

Hey friends, just getting deeper into the rabbit hole of open source hardware . Apart from this awesome project which are your favorite open source hardware projects you like to share. Have a beautiful day Hannes

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There's a super cool thing I've read about recently called FarmHack - (https://farmhack.org/tools)

hannes0815

Hey friends, just getting deeper into the rabbit hole of open source hardware . Apart from this awesome project which are your favorite open source hardware projects you like to share. Have a beautiful day Hannes

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Another is WikiHouse (https://www.wikihouse.cc)

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hannes0815

Hey friends, just getting deeper into the rabbit hole of open source hardware . Apart from this awesome project which are your favorite open source hardware projects you like to share. Have a beautiful day Hannes

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the whole rep rap project is nice

5:54 PM

https://www.latelierpaysan.org/English this site is lovely too,i found it while looking for open source farm equipment

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Formations autoconstruction d'outils de travail agricole. Plateforme web du matériel libre et de l'autoconstruction en agriculture.

5:55 PM

thevye got a ton of tools and machines which are of a shockingly good quality

5:56 PM

and the best thing is its all open source,like truly and unlike some other files the source part of open source is easily findable and not hidden somewhere

Sselbie

There's a super cool thing I've read about recently called FarmHack - (https://farmhack.org/tools)

thanks for sharing this,i loved it

New here and looking for anyone experienced with combining precious plastic with housing for poor/needy.

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Has anyone experienced faulty band heaters? Or a bad band heater brand? Heating up my HDPE to 300 Deg and it's still not completely liquid

Chickenandcocaine

Has anyone experienced faulty band heaters? Or a bad band heater brand? Heating up my HDPE to 300 Deg and it's still not completely liquid

have you verified the temp another way?

5:39 PM

there may be a temp difference between what your PID tells you and your actual temp

5:39 PM

once youve verified that the temp you are heating to is actually 300C then you could try other things

5:40 PM

but also the MAIN THING,what is the plastic from as in did you find it in a sheet form,as a container,bottle?

5:40 PM

PLASTIC WHEN HEATED IS ALMOST NEVER LIQUD LIKE WATER

5:41 PM

its like caramel at best

5:41 PM

unless you've a specialty mix

I heated water to a boil and used it with the temperature controller; it showed around 70 deg. So because of that, I offset the temperature by 30 (from 180) and increased it all the way upto 310, but still didn't reach a properly melted state. Was quite solid, like playdough. I also had a gap between my band heater which is 35mm diameter and the pipe which is 33.7mm so i covered the barrel with a few layers of foil. The plastic im using is pellets i got from another organization here that sells recycled pellets as i dont have my own shredder

Also, one more observation. I have 4 band heaters on the barrel, three of them soot up on the surface while one of them just remains shiny. Not sure what that's caused by. In any case, what's the best way to verify the band heater's temperature?

Dear one army, I would really appreciate it if you could help me find this answer. If I put sand in the extruder, will it go boom? I have seen videos where people are making durable products with plastic and sand. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7oUk10rKjE Where can I find information about how to mix in the correct proportion? Is there any proper research? Any lead would help. Much appreciated. Thank you, Most Sincerely, Fawaz Rob. www.Banglabari.org

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ECO FRIENDLY Plastic & Sand Tiled Houses

Hi everyone ,i am having this issue with my hdpe Plastic,it is well sorted and wash but the surface is not smooth what could be the cause and how can I solve the problem..help me out

Pen Muni

Dear one army, I would really appreciate it if you could help me find this answer. If I put sand in the extruder, will it go boom? I have seen videos where people are making durable products with plastic and sand. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7oUk10rKjE Where can I find information about how to mix in the correct proportion? Is there any proper research? Any lead would help. Much appreciated. Thank you, Most Sincerely, Fawaz Rob. www.Banglabari.org

will it go boom?-no ,that's unlikely, however sand will cause a lot of wear and damage to most machines which could cause problems

9:54 AM

so its more likely to go pop or melt than it is to go boom

Hi guys, Im Paul, Im a Student at Fontys Venlo in the Netherlands. I am currently working on a tool together with HERAS mobile fencing and am still on the search for a suited material for the tools handle (Estimated Size 3cm x 3cm x 11cm outer shell). And while plastic in it self is a very feasible material, I made myself the challenge to make the tool as sustainable as possible. [more in depth problem definition in the end] With my research regarding that I came across precious plastics as a possible solution to our problem and now wanted to get some more in-depth research of what is possible. I would be more than happy to maybe have a chat with some of you guys here and maybe get some tips in which part of this server I should ask my questions best. [1/2]

2:15 PM

My questions would generally be revolving around the topic if there is a possibility to outsource the production of a injection molded part to an already existing injection molding workshop, if the mold would be supplied. As well as maybe getting some tips regarding a mold design. And maybe also more solutions regarding our problem. [more in-depth description of the problem: The handle for the tool should be made out of either wood or plastic. Plastic, suits the product better due to its material properties. But because I want the product to be as sustainable as possible, letting the product be produced in China with their own supply of materials would not suit the general thought of the product. Additionally, even if we supply the manufacturer in China with recycled plastics, like recycled PP Granules, there is still the problem of us shipping the recycled granulate all the way over to China to be used for the product, therefore lowering the products sustainability. So our idea was to get the plastic granules from Precious Plastic suppliers in the Netherlands and then let the handles be molded in a Workshop, basically taking out our concerns about the sustainability problem] Thank you very much in advance, Paul

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what kind of tool is this? (edited)

Pen Muni

Dear one army, I would really appreciate it if you could help me find this answer. If I put sand in the extruder, will it go boom? I have seen videos where people are making durable products with plastic and sand. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7oUk10rKjE Where can I find information about how to mix in the correct proportion? Is there any proper research? Any lead would help. Much appreciated. Thank you, Most Sincerely, Fawaz Rob. www.Banglabari.org

Rule of thumb would be never to mix plastic with other materials. Try keep it pure as much as possible. We have never tried to put sand in the extruder, could work but we can't promise a successful outcome.

Mattia

Rule of thumb would be never to mix plastic with other materials. Try keep it pure as much as possible. We have never tried to put sand in the extruder, could work but we can't promise a successful outcome.

Thank you for your reply, but we are looking forward to replies from people who actually did some experiments with sand. It is probably better never to say 'never'.

Pen Muni

Thank you for your reply, but we are looking forward to replies from people who actually did some experiments with sand. It is probably better never to say 'never'.

I would usually agree but in this case i would say better never. Imagine you have some nice HDPE or PP ready to be recycled into cool products, say, a flowerpot. Because you keep the material pure (only HPDE or PP) in the future you will be able to further recycle the flowerpots into new products. If instead you mix that pure HDPE or PP with sand or other materials either than the plastic itself you'll end up with a mixture that will never be recyclable again. For this reason i would lean towards "better say never"

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7:05 PM

My 2 cents, of course free to experiment

Liri (They/He)

what kind of tool is this? (edited)

Hi Liri, its a carrying tool to make it easier to pick up their new wooden-combi fences. The combiwood fences they have are quite heavy and the tool should help workers to pick up these fences more ergonomically.

so eigenlijk is het een schutting (edited)

12:42 PM

of heb ik nu het verkeerde voor me

12:43 PM

je kan me andes wel een bericht stuuren in een dm (edited)

CLEMENT

Hello Friends!! I am Clement from Dubai, United Arab Emirates. We have quite good amount of - Post Operations Waste. We are looking for world wide solutions. Within the parameters of COLLECTING, SHREDDING and RECYCLING or REPURPOSING. The waste is from different plastic based products or polyester based. May be we can discuss and start a pilot project with those are up and running their units. Also we can collaborate for managing these projects. AVIATION WASTE HUGE OPPORTUNITY

Hi @CLEMENT we are also from Dubai and very interested in recycled plastic to use it for our design brand we are starting with. Are you still in Dubai? lets connect

Pen Muni

Dear one army, I would really appreciate it if you could help me find this answer. If I put sand in the extruder, will it go boom? I have seen videos where people are making durable products with plastic and sand. Like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7oUk10rKjE Where can I find information about how to mix in the correct proportion? Is there any proper research? Any lead would help. Much appreciated. Thank you, Most Sincerely, Fawaz Rob. www.Banglabari.org

It will not go boom but it will wear out your machine at an accelerated pace. https://www.instagram.com/p/BzsWSo4JHPv/ I had some univeristy students visit and they wanted to try it out. I had a screw and barrel I was planning on changing out anyways, so i let them give it a try.

Hello all, is there anyone here who is interested in creating functional objects using: concrete/cement and recycled paper; furniture made with used cardboard? I would like to delve into recycling plastics eventually but for the past few years my passion has been into recycled paper, cardboard and turning it into furniture and such. It would be wonderful to connect to others about recycling paper and knowing their ideas and thoughts. Thanks for your time!

Candela

Hello all, is there anyone here who is interested in creating functional objects using: concrete/cement and recycled paper; furniture made with used cardboard? I would like to delve into recycling plastics eventually but for the past few years my passion has been into recycled paper, cardboard and turning it into furniture and such. It would be wonderful to connect to others about recycling paper and knowing their ideas and thoughts. Thanks for your time!

There's a channel specifically for turning biodegradable things into useful objects! Check out #archived-beyond-plastic

hannes0815

Hey friends, just getting deeper into the rabbit hole of open source hardware . Apart from this awesome project which are your favorite open source hardware projects you like to share. Have a beautiful day Hannes

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Hello!

Mattia

OSE ope source ecology

Yes! I guess i'm the Resident Open Source Ecology developer/nerd here if any of you you have questions

sponsoons

the whole rep rap project is nice

This may be bias on my part, but i seriously feel like it is speeding up / close to happening

10:10 PM

Between increasing awareness of Open Source Hardware / Right to Repair Stuff, FDM 3D Printers becoming VERY common, more makerspaces being made, Index PnP Beginning Replications, etc it is definitely an interesting thing to watch these next few years

masor

Hi everyone ,i am having this issue with my hdpe Plastic,it is well sorted and wash but the surface is not smooth what could be the cause and how can I solve the problem..help me out

For my experience can be 2 problem, 1 is too hot and some pieces burn, 2 the other can be that it was different kind of plastic....happened to me too.

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Hello all I am just connecting. Feel a bit lost about where to start

11:14 AM

I would like to make some crates with recycled 10 liters water cans by exemple. I have understood so far, it would be possible if processing it with hot water bath and then press.

Hi there! I'm new to the community, and I saw the video about robotics. I currently have a OAK-D an OPEN CV AI kit and I think it might useful for anyone working in the robotics prototype (if anyone is still working on it :)). So if anyone can point me out to someone working on that it will be awesome! I forgot, also, I have some questions but I'm not really sure where to post them, so I guess I will do it here. While making V4 I saw that you had chart with the country of provenance of the food you were eating and such, I would love to see more about that and to collaborate on that too! Also, I don't know if you made an assessment (also while doing V4 or not) of daily products we use and which are more sustainable (like toothbrush, hair comb, and so on). Thanks and have a nice day! (edited)

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@Joseph This might be up your alley.

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Hi everyone! Very impressed by the work this community is doing, and had to join!

zoltan

Hi everyone! Very impressed by the work this community is doing, and had to join!

Welcome!!

Hi ONE ARMY ! We set up a full sustainability lab here in the Maldives. Shredder, Extruder, sheet press etc. Can anyone give me an idea or sloution on how we can process the PET1 water bottles ? We are using the caps etc. but want to process the actual clear plastic bottles. We also need to process a lot of PS6 Styrofoam boxes. Thoughts ? Sorry new to this and we have a lot of learning to do. Thank you !

AndrewSteele

Hi ONE ARMY ! We set up a full sustainability lab here in the Maldives. Shredder, Extruder, sheet press etc. Can anyone give me an idea or sloution on how we can process the PET1 water bottles ? We are using the caps etc. but want to process the actual clear plastic bottles. We also need to process a lot of PS6 Styrofoam boxes. Thoughts ? Sorry new to this and we have a lot of learning to do. Thank you !

pet is not possible,just sell it to plastic guys

8:47 AM

styrofoam is not recommended https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/605686860324536320/886670406424084491

Hello quick question there are technical drawings for the construction of the plastic extrude somewhere. If so, please send me a link there. Thank you in advance.

sponsoons

pet is not possible,just sell it to plastic guys

We don't have any "plastic guys" in the country to sell it too.... We are trying to be the "plastic guys" so we can take all the rubbish off the islands around us and convert into school supplies to give it back to the school kids to make change. There must be a way ? Any thoughts ? (edited)

AndrewSteele

We don't have any "plastic guys" in the country to sell it too.... We are trying to be the "plastic guys" so we can take all the rubbish off the islands around us and convert into school supplies to give it back to the school kids to make change. There must be a way ? Any thoughts ? (edited)

you dont have any scrap dealers or scrap yards?

thanks @𝕃𝕆𝕂𝕀 (Colorado, USA)

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sponsoons

you dont have any scrap dealers or scrap yards?

No we don't.

Hi guys, Not sure if I’m in the right place here but I’m wondering if I can get some help. I own a small biz and use a vinyl that is promoted as more ‘eco friendly’ than PVC as it’s not single use plastic. However, I have no idea where to recycle it? Here’s the link to the product if anyone can help; https://www.gmcrafts.co.uk/product/gm-eco-press-black/ I’d be most grateful as I have a bag of scraps of it now and no idea what to do with it

I am in the UK Thank you in advance, Hatti x @thecollectivewolf

yeniveev

Hi guys, Not sure if I’m in the right place here but I’m wondering if I can get some help. I own a small biz and use a vinyl that is promoted as more ‘eco friendly’ than PVC as it’s not single use plastic. However, I have no idea where to recycle it? Here’s the link to the product if anyone can help; https://www.gmcrafts.co.uk/product/gm-eco-press-black/ I’d be most grateful as I have a bag of scraps of it now and no idea what to do with it

I am in the UK Thank you in advance, Hatti x @thecollectivewolf

try seeing if theres anybody near you whos a plastic recycler or a plastic related facility,theyll often buy up material or at the very least theyll be able to tell you whos the right person to get in touch with

1:34 PM

the material seems to be PU or polyurethane

1:35 PM

which is used in a lot of things like belts,flexible materials etc basically a lot of rubber like things are made of PU

Hey guys really excited about everything you are doing , I am an sculpture artist looking to use recycled plastics as a zero waste medium to sculpt from as everything excess can get re melted back down

6:22 PM

Anyway my question for everyone is: what is the largest solid recycled plastic cube anyone has ever made that we know of

6:23 PM

I want to make a 10x10 foot cube, I have access to very large ovens for this

6:23 PM

Hoping to learn to do this over the next year

@Wishbone someone mentioned a 30/40 kilo beam to me a couple of weeks ago. Apart from that I have seen mention of plastic "rocks" you could look into that. What oven do you have access to?

I have access to the ovens of the largest metal manufacturer in Manitoba

8:08 PM

@Mahalo Project

8:08 PM

Any idea who it was with the beams?

8:08 PM

I’ve seen a few of the rocks from one army YouTube video

8:08 PM

But basically trying to see what the largest thing anyone has done volume wise

8:08 PM

And what plastic they used etc

8:09 PM

And anything I can learn from them etc

Candela

Hello all, is there anyone here who is interested in creating functional objects using: concrete/cement and recycled paper; furniture made with used cardboard? I would like to delve into recycling plastics eventually but for the past few years my passion has been into recycled paper, cardboard and turning it into furniture and such. It would be wonderful to connect to others about recycling paper and knowing their ideas and thoughts. Thanks for your time!

Would love to see what you’ve made so far

@𝕃𝕆𝕂𝕀 (Colorado, USA) Thank you Loki, I have checked it out. I didn’t want to overwhelm myself so cardboard first then maybe plastics.

8:29 PM

@Wishbone oh goodness the ones I made are quite lacking the oomph for display. I will show you one though - beware it’s not that pretty.

8:32 PM

8:34 PM

@𝕃𝕆𝕂𝕀 (Colorado, USA) cardboard and cement actually. I wish I could include plastics too but I am intimidated by the procedure and tools used. Thank you by the way for your suggestion.

Those are awesome!

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Super late to the party, just catching up with this server. Those are federated services, as they follow the client/server paradigm. A truly decentralized alternative would be something like Scuttlebutt.

Hello everyone. I'm new here, less than an hour, I've downloaded the files from Precious plastics but can't open the CAD files when I open the folder I get ._Blueprints and ._CAD Files. What's that, how do I get the files?

Do you have the right cad viewers?

Wishbone

Hey guys really excited about everything you are doing , I am an sculpture artist looking to use recycled plastics as a zero waste medium to sculpt from as everything excess can get re melted back down

Give it a try with foils and a oven and a pair of heatrecistand gloves. I have seen quite some people working like that. You can use a simple cube mould on the side to press it after add the hot plastic in the mould. Haven't tried it myself but still on my list. I let you know when it have happend (edited)

In the extrusion starterkit, I don't see the "Tool list" (item #13 in https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-an-extrusion-workspace). Would anybody know where to find it?

Hello

I have a passion for spreading recycled plastic technology from the EU to the United States. I was wondering what you thought are the recycled plastic tech hotspots in Europe/etc? I'm pretty flexible with where I live and work remotely in computer science. Thanks

greeting from Jakarta

Julie

Give it a try with foils and a oven and a pair of heatrecistand gloves. I have seen quite some people working like that. You can use a simple cube mould on the side to press it after add the hot plastic in the mould. Haven't tried it myself but still on my list. I let you know when it have happend (edited)

Cool, im hoping to actually build a 1x1 meter square cube ant recommendation on type of plastic I should use?

Mahalo Project

@Wishbone someone mentioned a 30/40 kilo beam to me a couple of weeks ago. Apart from that I have seen mention of plastic "rocks" you could look into that. What oven do you have access to?

Do you have pics of that beam?

Hello! I can't download the files with the shredder drawings. Downloads do not work! Help to figure it out.

kinomarco

Hey! Ciao a tutt* sono di Roma, dell'Ass. Planet2084... stiamo cercando di costruire una comunità Precious Plastic negli spazi di Spin Time Labs... c'è qualcuno interessato che vuole unirsi?

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antony

Hello! I can't download the files with the shredder drawings. Downloads do not work! Help to figure it out.

Hey, which link are you trying it with?

Kat

Hey, which link are you trying it with?

tiny.cc/build-shredderpro, там не хватает каког-то файла

Wishbone

Cool, im hoping to actually build a 1x1 meter square cube ant recommendation on type of plastic I should use?

Foils are mainly LDPE 4 give it a try with some differect sources and keep track on how they react

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'hola ,aguien de ECUADOR y que hable español ?

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Hey everyone, just asking how u deal with microplastics, I've been using a blender to get the plastic small enough for the injection machine and I've noticed microplastics forming. Can this be collected somehow?

#plastic-bricks hey all, I've got all the basic machines and am slowly setting up a workshop. I was informed the triple brick mould would be too much for an injector or basic extruder to handle. Would a double or single layer brick be more appropriate?

2:21 AM

Was doing in depth research but stumbled on old broken links. A push in the right direction would be appreciated.

2:28 AM

What is the volume equation? Please

3:53 AM

What is the volume equation for HDPE ?

hi guys, im maria alejandra from metamorfica lab, in bogota, colombia. we submitted to be placed on the precious plastic map and we were for a couple of days but we dont appear any more, why does that happen?

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Hello all.

I’m new here.

Looking for Precious Plastic community members and places to acquire machines in the US (Florida). Any directions? Thank you.

@Plastic Fisherman welcome! Good place to check is bazar@preciousplastic.com and also Garret @GarrettCadou is active in Florida and might be willing to help you out

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Does anyone know any custom mold makers in Western australia to be able to create my designs

Joseph

@Plastic Fisherman welcome! Good place to check is bazar@preciousplastic.com and also Garret @GarrettCadou is active in Florida and might be willing to help you out

Thank you! I’ll reach out to @GarrettCadou today.

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Hi, I would like to reach out to you because you are all great makers, solution finders and creatives. I firmly believe that design can make the world a better place, as much as it has the potential to make it a worse place. In the last years, I have focused all my energy on learning how design can work in humanitarian and environmental crises. I started with taking a deep dive into the world of Precious Plastic and finding there how strong global community approached solutions can be; a worldwide network can have an extraordinary impact in a brief timeframe. After Precious Plastic, I worked for two years in the context of humanitarian crises, focusing on the refugee situation in Greece on projects enabling humans to help themselves with a maker approach. Based on these experiences, I started the Whole Earth Project.

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It takes the ideas of Open-Source and distributed design with the approach of Think Global, Make Local as an answer to the crises concerning the whole earth, from environmental to humanitarian. Based on the ideas and solutions from a local actor (local to the cause), a global network can rapidly improve their work through a broad area of specialisation and background. These ideas can be produced from local and global maker spaces and businesses to help a specific cause. All thoughts are collected in a common database, always ready to be taken and improved. After some time, we can provide quick solutions to almost any problem, where a design approach can help. At the same time, we have to power to design beautiful products, produce and sell them and sell as a network to generate money for a particular cause. I think that many of us intend to do something good for others but struggle to find the right way; maybe this project can be the right approach. I would love you to participate in the first test run. For this, we will work on an event in the past to learn from before we reach out to relevant situations. Please have a look at the attached form, we will start with a simple challenge, and in the coming days, when our community has grown enough, we will work on the next steps together. Thank you! Louis

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Whole Earth Project

Thank you for joining the first test run of the Whole Earth project, a platform that uses design tools, more precisely distributed design, and the idea of open-source sharing and making to react quickly to problems concerning the whole earth. To ensure that we are prepared for the hurdles along the way and learn what is needed from such a projec...

hi, i need an engine for my sheredder, also used, live in. Venice, do you have any advice? Where to buy it?

hi, I am a third year Architecture student at Ucl in london, I am designing a facility that processes and creates plastic sheets! as this a new collective i wondered if anyone had any workshop plans of existing plastic workshops or precedents they could send a link too? would be great if there was somewhere i could come and visit in London to learn more about this fascinating process

@davehakkens bring back the forum...please

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Hello! I am looking for a factory in Cape Town. Anyone active with precious plastic in South Africa? Looking to see some of the options in real life. I'm working on a small cabin and I am considering using recycled plastic for some of the finishes. Thanks!

Wishbone

Hey guys really excited about everything you are doing , I am an sculpture artist looking to use recycled plastics as a zero waste medium to sculpt from as everything excess can get re melted back down

Largest block i've made was 15x15x15cm by using a mould for making cement blocks (i think they're used for testing purposes) heaviest plank was abotu 7.5kg. So thats roughly 7500cc. If you're doing a 10 x 10 foot cube, is that solid? I mean, that's quite massive and will take a very long time to melt and a very long time to cool down.

RupertRochford

hi, I am a third year Architecture student at Ucl in london, I am designing a facility that processes and creates plastic sheets! as this a new collective i wondered if anyone had any workshop plans of existing plastic workshops or precedents they could send a link too? would be great if there was somewhere i could come and visit in London to learn more about this fascinating process

There is the participation Foundation in Barking , worth getting in touch with them .

Hello Here is South Korea. I want to make and sell all the products here. Are all drawings in the DOWNLOAD-KIT V4 ? Right ? (edited)

김성헌

Hello Here is South Korea. I want to make and sell all the products here. Are all drawings in the DOWNLOAD-KIT V4 ? Right ? (edited)

Yes all the machine drawings are in the download kit v4

Thank you so much for your answer. Thank you very much for openning the drawings so that all products can be made. We will try to donate some of the profits from machine sales to Precious Plastic.

Zero Plastics Australia

@PreciousPlasticCork i use a large heat press to make these craft sheets. 500mm x 300mm x 5mm. Set up is about $1100-1500 AUD. Im in the middle of making a how to on this for everyone.

How roughness is the surface?

How about this method to make the plastic fine at once?

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김성헌

How about this method to make the plastic fine at once?

not sure if that whoulf work

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but

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your most likely need a bigger motor

witch is also going to result in otherthings needing to be stranghted

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a person

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and who happens to be a engineer

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oke

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and why does that mean you should react like this

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im rly confused now

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@👮Moderator this is sus af

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not sure if something needs to be done bout this

Taire

@👮Moderator this is sus af

Why amogus reference

idk

김성헌

Hello Here is South Korea. I want to make and sell all the products here. Are all drawings in the DOWNLOAD-KIT V4 ? Right ? (edited)

I want to buy. Please contact me on ajay@sitaramtech.com

Does anyone have any sort of blueprints for the hopper and all the metal pieces for the basic extruder the one from the 3.2 video, thanks

Mattia started a thread. 1/24/2022 6:32 PM

@EmmG cool idea. I'm in SA - EC. When do you need your finishes by? I'm hoping to start producing some basic stuff, e.g. sheets in the next couple of months.

Hello everyone I am in #Miami and wanted to know if there was anyone in #florida that is interested in collaborating on this project.

whatsup! new here. just found precious plastic yesterday. These projects look awesome possum. (edited)

@muddy bloody 667 heyman!

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had to do it

muddy bloody 667

whatsup! new here. just found precious plastic yesterday. These projects look awesome possum. (edited)

nice to have you here, have a look around! are you interested in something particular?

hey, man

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Julie

nice to have you here, have a look around! are you interested in something particular?

yes. A little too much. Trying to not write an essay lol

I found all this from a DIY injection molding machine facebook group. I have been doing a lot of 3d printing, designing, and building machines. I am now looking at building some injection molding machines and manufacturing my designs. I also am really interested in reusing 3d printing waste. I recently wrote a 3d printing newsletter. I really want to focus on things that can help lessen 3d printing's impact on the environment. I really love the empowerment it offers. I felt like 3d printing and maker communities are part of a paradigm shift that we really need to survive and make life decent. Finding this movement (or project or what is it called? lol) makes me think I may be on the right path lol.

O yea, I also have done a lot of work with clothing lol. didn't expect to find the fashion stuff here. way cool

muddy bloody 667

I found all this from a DIY injection molding machine facebook group. I have been doing a lot of 3d printing, designing, and building machines. I am now looking at building some injection molding machines and manufacturing my designs. I also am really interested in reusing 3d printing waste. I recently wrote a 3d printing newsletter. I really want to focus on things that can help lessen 3d printing's impact on the environment. I really love the empowerment it offers. I felt like 3d printing and maker communities are part of a paradigm shift that we really need to survive and make life decent. Finding this movement (or project or what is it called? lol) makes me think I may be on the right path lol.

Nice, maybe making a thread or shaping a group around the 3d printing technique could be a start. There are many people joining this community with having interest in 3dprinting in a more invoriomental friendly way.

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Hey! Where can I find people who make products out of recycled plastic in Cape Town?

Julie

Nice, maybe making a thread or shaping a group around the 3d printing technique could be a start. There are many people joining this community with having interest in 3dprinting in a more invoriomental friendly way.

I see there is a #archived-3d-printing channel. Awesome stuff in there. Do you have more in mind when you say "making a thread or shaping a group?" Where would best place to do that be?

Hi, @one_army We moved from PreciousPlastics Estonia to a startup that is determined to improve packaging waste quality in apartment buildings.

We are participating in a EU Bauhaus and would ask you to like our YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps7ea5vy7-E&ab_channel=EITCross-KICNewEuropeanBauhaus

This would be of much importance for at least raising the issue of cross-contaminated waste and giving it more importance by helping us win.  For more information, you can learn about WasteLocker here: https://prototron.fundwise.me/en/node/591 Or you can just contact me anytime directly, it would be a please.

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EIT Cross-KIC New European Bauhaus

WasteLocker a consumer centric solution to trace waste for better...

Detecting household packaging waste contamination – saving individuals and businesses costs, environment and more than doubling secondary raw material recovery.

Hey everyone! Recently found out about Precious Plastic and I love the vibe. I wanted to join the discord and see what the community was like. I’m interested in recycling plastic and making my own injection molded do-dads

muddy bloody 667

I see there is a #archived-3d-printing channel. Awesome stuff in there. Do you have more in mind when you say "making a thread or shaping a group?" Where would best place to do that be?

no, that the place to be, good one!

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Hi everyone! I found this community since precious plastic was founded. nice to meet you. Anyone knows if its possible to visit the Project Kamp location in Portugal?

tatius

Hi everyone! I found this community since precious plastic was founded. nice to meet you. Anyone knows if its possible to visit the Project Kamp location in Portugal?

They're not currently taking visitors, but sometimes post applications if you're interested in joining the team!

𝕃𝕆𝕂𝕀 (Colorado, USA)

They're not currently taking visitors, but sometimes post applications if you're interested in joining the team!

Hi! I don't understand "post applications". could you explain me?

thanks!!

Apply for jobs Cheers

Anyone here have a suggestion on a DIY injection machine I can make? I’d love to do an automatic one, especially.

AndrewSteele

We don't have any "plastic guys" in the country to sell it too.... We are trying to be the "plastic guys" so we can take all the rubbish off the islands around us and convert into school supplies to give it back to the school kids to make change. There must be a way ? Any thoughts ? (edited)

I'm looking for opportunities to demo this system at schools and make something useful for them. Some ideas: extrude over forms for birdhouses, flower pots, large "lego" bricks, Injection: bee houses, clips, awards, hex wall tiles. Any other ideas here?

Jon Simmons

I'm looking for opportunities to demo this system at schools and make something useful for them. Some ideas: extrude over forms for birdhouses, flower pots, large "lego" bricks, Injection: bee houses, clips, awards, hex wall tiles. Any other ideas here?

forget the bee house

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Sounds awesome! There is actually someone who is selling a frisbee mold in the bazaar. They should be able to answer all your questions concerning the production. See if you can contact them here: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/moulds/injection-moulds/spinning-top-mold-clone/ Good luck with the project! (edited)

Mold for recycled plastic Spinning Tops

fameworldwide

Hello everyone I am in #Miami and wanted to know if there was anyone in #florida that is interested in collaborating on this project.

hey there! im in sarasota

Whats up with that german server, now it only cosnsists of welcome, rules and warnings Thats rather useless

nope, I'm just a noob

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Hey! Is there anyone in the Netherlands who's making products out of recycled plastic? I would love to see some samples and look into the possibilities of having products made

Hey everyone! Does anyone know where the designs and instructions are for building this specific Precious Plastic Injector? Thank you all so much!

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https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/extruder-pro/extruder-pro-fully-built/extrusion-v4.3-lydia/ Link to it here. I am in the USA so I'd prefer to build it myself for cost and environmental reasons.

Precious Plastic Extruder

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specifically the mold mechanism. I can't seem to find it on the PP website or the Plastic-Hub website. Thanks again everyone

CatstopherReeves

Hey everyone! Does anyone know where the designs and instructions are for building this specific Precious Plastic Injector? Thank you all so much!

hi,if im not mistaken this is a model that hasnt been released and is under development

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iirc this pic is from when the mold clamping system was begin discussed

Ah ok. That makes a lot of sense haha. Who do we contact if we want to beta test or help? I am very new to injection molding but am a solid maker and tinkerer and have built my own CNC, 3D Printer, etc.

CatstopherReeves

Ah ok. That makes a lot of sense haha. Who do we contact if we want to beta test or help? I am very new to injection molding but am a solid maker and tinkerer and have built my own CNC, 3D Printer, etc.

ive dm'd you

EmmG

Hey! Is there anyone in the Netherlands who's making products out of recycled plastic? I would love to see some samples and look into the possibilities of having products made

hi @EmmG, where in the Netherlands are you from? and do you speak dutch? I tried to send you a direct message but I can't because we are no friends on discord

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4j0iWPp9Yltj0PNkqZJpho?si=yeQsM7UQTmC2vr4HpPEm0g&utm_source=copy-link

99% of ocean plastic is missing

Listen to this episode from Unexplainable on Spotify. How can we solve the problem of ocean plastic if we don’t know where most of the plastic is? For more, go to http://vox.com/unexplainable It’s a great place to view show transcripts and read more about the topics on our show. Also, email us! unexplainable@vox.com We read every email. Support ...

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Julie

hi @EmmG, where in the Netherlands are you from? and do you speak dutch? I tried to send you a direct message but I can't because we are no friends on discord

Hi! Yes I am Dutch, I am in South Africa currently but will return to Amsterdam in a few weeks. I sent you a friend request!

Hello folks!

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I am from New Hampshire USA and have been wanting to get more involved with precious plastic for a while!

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Hi everyone I am from Papua New Guinea and I want represent Presious plastic in my country and I'm pretty sure there is no one yet involved in this wonderful organization here that's why I'm pretty excited to spread the word in my country. I have been so obsessed with trash and recycling for a very long time even as a kid I'd melt plastic on fire and poure them in moulds and play with them. It's truly am honore to finally find an organization dedicated to this worthy cause. Please I'd love to chat with someone whose already built the machines and involved in the community to give some advice on starting small. Dijit junk

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I wanted to know if anyone tried to inject ldpe into a 2 or 3mm thick mold. Is it possible or does it cool too quickly?

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I want to create a mold 120 cm long 4 cm wide is 2 or 3 mm thick and inject plastic with injection machine . Do you think it is possible?

In industrial scale you would do this with multiple injection points, but with an manual injection machine, I think you only can heat the injection mould to about 150 degrees Celsius for the whole injection process

Yes, I had thought about heating the mold but not as much as it can be convenient and possible to do

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Now I thought a long thermo press would be easier. Are there long electrical restitances that heat a bar

short question what do you want to do with that bar?

dadda29993

Now I thought a long thermo press would be easier. Are there long electrical restitances that heat a bar

yes,you could just add heaters into the bar by drilling/cutting slots

Philipp

short question what do you want to do with that bar?

but yes this is more important

dadda29993

I wanted to know if anyone tried to inject ldpe into a 2 or 3mm thick mold. Is it possible or does it cool too quickly?

why would you like to make something so thing

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as in its possible but its a little tricky

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youd need good runners and a high injection pressure

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youd also need to make sure the ldpe youre using didnt come from any blow molded products

Philipp

short question what do you want to do with that bar?

A trouser belt

sry but I´am out, not my area of expertise.

trained in theoretical plastic engineering (EPS), so most information I take are on theoretical thinking

What is your area? blobcatgooglythink

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Plastics composition?

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Or mechanics?

because my training company gave a shit on standards

Falcon

What is your area? blobcatgooglythink

expandable-Polystyrene (edited)

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expandibal PS

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or XPS

I have a question. What is the material of sheet press plate? Aluminium? And does plastic stick to plates when they are hot?

I know HDPE doesn't really stick to things so once it's cooled down you should be good to separate it. people usually put a mold release or wax as a good measure and to make things easier

dadda29993

I have a question. What is the material of sheet press plate? Aluminium? And does plastic stick to plates when they are hot?

I think the sheet press plate is aluminum but not sure I'm sure you can find it on one of the videos or pages or just wait for someone else to reply

Liri (They/He)

I know HDPE doesn't really stick to things so once it's cooled down you should be good to separate it. people usually put a mold release or wax as a good measure and to make things easier

I use ldpe.. Ldpe stick to the plates??

not sure you should wait for someone else's replies (edited)

We use 3mm aluminium plates. But we generally add a release agent. Silicon oil works well. We also had feedback that palm oil or WD40 works as well. Or for a more permanent solution, you can coat the aluminium plate with silicon, but that is a pricy operation. (edited)

dadda29993

I have a question. What is the material of sheet press plate? Aluminium? And does plastic stick to plates when they are hot?

the plate could be made of different metals,normally either steel or aluminum,most plastic is a bit sticky when hot but to what extent differes

dadda29993

I use ldpe.. Ldpe stick to the plates??

when the plastic has become cool/not hot then the plastic will not stick as much as when it was hot,but to help in removing the plastic from the mold and to prevent damage to the plastic to the plastic or mold, you apply mold release or oil to prevent sticking

LDPE sticks like crazy

doesn't it depend on what it sticks?

Falcon

LDPE sticks like crazy

Does LDPE stay attached even when it’s cold?

in my experience yes.

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I have seen galvanized steel sheets suggested for helping with the sticking

Hi folks! Just joined the server. Looking forward to checking things out and learning from you all! ❤️

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Hi there! I just joined this server after searched about The Precious Plastic. Kind interest about the extrusion machine, maybe someone can help me how to buy or build it. Thank you.

DeeHP

Hi there! I just joined this server after searched about The Precious Plastic. Kind interest about the extrusion machine, maybe someone can help me how to buy or build it. Thank you.

Welcome

Buy: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com Find machine builders: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map Build yourself: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build

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Hi there, I just joined. Can I get added to project #fixing fashion

Villanelle

Hi there, I just joined. Can I get added to project #fixing fashion

yes, click the FixingFashion

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https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598850166375710733/831178041798426675

Hugh

yes, click the FixingFashion

emoji under the Start here message

I did but I don't get any notifications for fixing fashion. Or is it pretty silent in there at the moment

Villanelle

I did but I don't get any notifications for fixing fashion. Or is it pretty silent in there at the moment

click on through to this channel #fashion-chat

filling up all our eco pots today for our homestead garden. The perfect pots we reserve for sale and the short shot or less than perfect pots we use in the garden as they are still usable. With the current world situation with inflation, supply shortages, and lowering of quality of the industrial food system, we are working to be part of the solution and not the problem. Maybe it should be tagged as #plastickamp a mix of project kamp and precious plastic? (edited)

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@Butte (PP Philippines) bravó

Hi guys ! I don't know if I'm in the correct channel. I bought a sheetpress machine and I'm facing 2 issues. some air bubbles are into the sheets (on the top), and the tickness of the sheets are not equal. Any advices ? Thanks in advance

Hey @Nicolas A few of us had the same problem a while back. Not sure if we came to a proper conclusion why it was happing, but the thread can be found here. https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888879126478849/861124321158234113 (edited)

Rory - Sustainable Design Studio

Hey @Nicolas A few of us had the same problem a while back. Not sure if we came to a proper conclusion why it was happing, but the thread can be found here. https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888879126478849/861124321158234113 (edited)

Thanks a ton, i'll check it out

Rory - Sustainable Design Studio

Hey @Nicolas A few of us had the same problem a while back. Not sure if we came to a proper conclusion why it was happing, but the thread can be found here. https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888879126478849/861124321158234113 (edited)

Hey Rory, I could see lot of us have this issue. Did you fixed it ? How ? I've seen some people tried to drill some part to help the air to go

Rory - Sustainable Design Studio

Hey @Nicolas A few of us had the same problem a while back. Not sure if we came to a proper conclusion why it was happing, but the thread can be found here. https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598888879126478849/861124321158234113 (edited)

You had some good points in that thread, there usually are three factors that lead to bubbles: air being trapped during the melting, liquids melting and outgassing of materials. At 180c there shouldn't be that much outgassing yet but it can always be a factor, water born bubbles should be super tiny because the amount of water we are talking about is miniscule. Two ideas that come to mind: Keep the entire mould hot for alonger so the bubbles can work their way out naturally, maybe enable some sort of shaking or smacking down so the bubbles loosen a bit easier Pull a vacuum, theres a reason why most big extruders have massive vacuum pumps attached

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Hey everyone

I just found you through Project Kamp and I absolutely love what you’re doing here. I’m eager to learn, support you, and (hopefully) share something useful as well! I’m in Porto (Portugal) and just bought a very small urban plot with a decaying ruin where I plan to build a home. I’m sure Project Kamp and Precious Plastic will be a great help besides the huge amounts of inspiration already provided in the short timespan that I’ve known about them.

vitalPixel

Hey everyone

I just found you through Project Kamp and I absolutely love what you’re doing here. I’m eager to learn, support you, and (hopefully) share something useful as well! I’m in Porto (Portugal) and just bought a very small urban plot with a decaying ruin where I plan to build a home. I’m sure Project Kamp and Precious Plastic will be a great help besides the huge amounts of inspiration already provided in the short timespan that I’ve known about them.

welcome @vitalPixel !

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You guys are awesome all of you!! :)

Hi all, new to the community so hope this is the right place to ask,; what type of steel is recomended for the shredder if not going for stainless? is normal mild steel ok?

Gillscorner

Hi all, new to the community so hope this is the right place to ask,; what type of steel is recomended for the shredder if not going for stainless? is normal mild steel ok?

hey welcome! you can also try on #archived-machines

Gillscorner

Hi all, new to the community so hope this is the right place to ask,; what type of steel is recomended for the shredder if not going for stainless? is normal mild steel ok?

Hello. Yes. Regular steel. (edited)

Thanks Mattia!

hi guys im new here , nice comunity you build upblush sorry if im straight away but is it still a good idea to start a machine shopor are there already enough? thanks and big respect for what youre doingthumbsupmuscle

Hey there, new here...love the videos. I was wondering about the setup, it says that they are for sell?

J.Kg

Hey there, new here...love the videos. I was wondering about the setup, it says that they are for sell?

Yes you can find machines on the bazar.preciousplastic.com

Hello All! does anybody has any interesting articles about possible ways to recycle thermoharders ( not thermoplasts) ?

Hi. Does anyone has ideal on how to make wall tiles,ceiling tiles,floor tiles..and what type of plastic is best to make

What happened to the forum, why is it no longer accessible?! https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/

Hi , just wondering if anyone has experience setting up the Rex c100 pid controller for a injection machine? , just having trouble understanding the different parameters thanks .

Hallo finde die Idee Plastik selber zu Recyclen sehr gut den es wird nicht genug gemacht. Nur meine Frage was Kostet sowas. So ein Schredder. Bin selbst seit 7 Jahren Frührentner hätte viel Zeit. Sorry kann kein Englisch aber Interesse schon

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

What happened to the forum, why is it no longer accessible?! https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/

Heya, there are some issues with the current hosting provider but we are looking to get it back online soon. Was there something in particular you needed from the forums? They have been moved into a read-only mode, in favour of the https://community.preciousplastic.com site. (edited)

Thank you for the feedback, nothing special that I need right now. Do you need any assistance to resolve those issues or is it just something that the hosting provider needs to fix?

Thomas(Nothing Phone 1)

Hallo finde die Idee Plastik selber zu Recyclen sehr gut den es wird nicht genug gemacht. Nur meine Frage was Kostet sowas. So ein Schredder. Bin selbst seit 7 Jahren Frührentner hätte viel Zeit. Sorry kann kein Englisch aber Interesse schon

https://discord.gg/Rznz6rtK

Thomas(Nothing Phone 1)

Hallo finde die Idee Plastik selber zu Recyclen sehr gut den es wird nicht genug gemacht. Nur meine Frage was Kostet sowas. So ein Schredder. Bin selbst seit 7 Jahren Frührentner hätte viel Zeit. Sorry kann kein Englisch aber Interesse schon

Glaube so das günstigste was ich auf die Schnelle gesehen habe im bazar waren rund 250€ ohne Motor, als komplett zusammen gebaut gehts so um die 1000€.

Hello everyone. I am French and I come from New Caledonia. I would like to join your community and start my professional reconversion on plastic processing. My English is school, if however French people are on this site, any help would be welcome. Thank you for your daily actions.

Hi there! New to this discord. I want to ask about using different plastic types in the precious plastic machinery. How do you melt and shape polysterene?

Bonjour, je suis Enzo je suis entrepreneur en France et je souhaiterai lancer mon entreprise de recyclage de plastique avec les instructions de Precious plastique, est-ce qu'il y a un Français car je parle très mal Anglais qui pourrait venir m'aider en MP pour répondre à mes questions ? (je cherche quelqu'un qui a déjà une machine ou alors qui a monté son concept, ou autre...)

Hi ,

I am an entrepreneur and planning to manufacture the whole dinner set including cups , plates bowl etc. but before embarking this business I need a little help of you people their are some questions which I need to clear 1. what is the durability of the product 2. is it washable..?? is their any chances of rotting ..?? what is the estimated life of the material.?? hoping to hear soon from you guys ( muhammadsohaib19065@gmail.com )

Prestige

I am an entrepreneur and planning to manufacture the whole dinner set including cups , plates bowl etc. but before embarking this business I need a little help of you people their are some questions which I need to clear 1. what is the durability of the product 2. is it washable..?? is their any chances of rotting ..?? what is the estimated life of the material.?? hoping to hear soon from you guys ( muhammadsohaib19065@gmail.com )

for all the questions you have asked there are no problems, IMO plastic cutlery esp good thick stuff will last a long time(I've got bowls I've been using for the past 12-13 years),in most cases i wouldn't advise washing with hot water/dishwasher but washing like normal is perfectly fine, and no there's absolutely no chance of rotting

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however the main concern would be when using recycled plastic to make anything that is going to be used with food as the risk for contamination is there and it is generally not advised

Hi there! I just watched this documentary https://www.thewhy.dk/films/the-story-of-recycling about Plastic recycling one of many I already saw. I always wonder why I never see Precious Plastic/One Army on those and I think this community should be more advertised on those documentaries so more people could join it. Anyway, that's just a thought I wanted to share with all of you. The main reason I'm sharing this with you is because there is a person on that video, which recycles, she is actually a collection point for Terracycle (first time I heard about that company) and long story short, the plastic she collects ends up 3000 km away not being recycled. And this was really sad, since nearby the town where she collects, Shaftesbury in the UK, there are PP folks and she could contribute to the community. I will write to her to invite her to this community to see actual people caring as she does that actually recycles. Thanks for reading and enjoy!

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Hi there! I just watched this documentary https://www.thewhy.dk/films/the-story-of-recycling about Plastic recycling one of many I already saw. I always wonder why I never see Precious Plastic/One Army on those and I think this community should be more advertised on those documentaries so more people could join it. Anyway, that's just a thought I wanted to share with all of you. The main reason I'm sharing this with you is because there is a person on that video, which recycles, she is actually a collection point for Terracycle (first time I heard about that company) and long story short, the plastic she collects ends up 3000 km away not being recycled. And this was really sad, since nearby the town where she collects, Shaftesbury in the UK, there are PP folks and she could contribute to the community. I will write to her to invite her to this community to see actual people caring as she does that actually recycles. Thanks for reading and enjoy!

yes, i watched it the last saturday...

9:13 PM

https://www.terracycle.com/en-GB

TerraCycle

TerraCycle is an innovative recycling company that has become a global leader in recycling hard-to-recycle materials. They offer a range of free programmes, as well as recycling solutions available for purchase for almost every form of waste. Eliminate the idea of waste

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Hello everyone. I am French and I come from New Caledonia. I would like to join your community and start my professional reconversion on plastic processing. My English is school, if however French people are on this site, any help would be welcome. Thank you for your daily actions.

https://discord.gg/nqQtvXkq < --- Precious plastics francophone

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PPCapiSpain

https://www.terracycle.com/en-GB

yes I have seen this before, but am pretty sure the value cost of return per item collected then processed is not actually economic sustainable. (kind more of intention ventures that numbers).

2:23 AM

This is what I have in my project in Mexico, this is scrap plastic in stock available now, PET is removed as represent 75% of all this chart.

mdans

Hi there! I just watched this documentary https://www.thewhy.dk/films/the-story-of-recycling about Plastic recycling one of many I already saw. I always wonder why I never see Precious Plastic/One Army on those and I think this community should be more advertised on those documentaries so more people could join it. Anyway, that's just a thought I wanted to share with all of you. The main reason I'm sharing this with you is because there is a person on that video, which recycles, she is actually a collection point for Terracycle (first time I heard about that company) and long story short, the plastic she collects ends up 3000 km away not being recycled. And this was really sad, since nearby the town where she collects, Shaftesbury in the UK, there are PP folks and she could contribute to the community. I will write to her to invite her to this community to see actual people caring as she does that actually recycles. Thanks for reading and enjoy!

Good question

I also wonder why? But I guess they're more interested in institutionalised recycling businesses. Precious Plastic might be difficult to understand for outsiders. Or maybe not reliable enough for them? Dunno, but agree would be great to be featured in such docs.

The scale just isn't there with pp machines.

hello

Hey! I'm a college student working on a shredder project. I have a couple doubts and would love if anyone could help me out. I'm working to primarily shred plastic bottles and I'm trying to make it as small as possible. I was wondering if I could achieve the small size of shredded plastic even with the first version of the shredder since it is a lot smaller.

3:52 PM

It doesn't have to process huge volumes like an industrial grade one might but still slightly more than a hobbyist would

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And obviously the size constraint is also on the power size, I plan on mounting it parallel to the shredder axes but I assumed since it wouldn't process huge volumes, that shouldn't be an issue. Again I'm still a student learning and would love inputs on any aspect

New OECD publication says only 9% of plastic waste worldwide was recycled, encouraged innovations in plastics should be more environmentally relevant: https://read.oecd-ilibrary.org/environment/global-plastics-outlook_dfe099c9-en#page1

Executive Summary | READ online

The Global Plastics Outlook: Economic Drivers, Environmental Impacts and Policy Options offers a unique quantified picture of the full lifecycle of plastics globally, including production, consumption, waste, recycling, disposal, leakage and greenhouse gas emissions. Five key findings summarize the current challenges while four critical levers a...

Hey someone have tried to make tiles with the injection machine 2 or 3 mm thick? Can you inject plastic into the mold?

dadda29993

Hey someone have tried to make tiles with the injection machine 2 or 3 mm thick? Can you inject plastic into the mold?

3mm will need very good plastic,but 4-5mm is possible and isnt very difficult

I make tiles 5 or 6 mm

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What do you mean of good plastic?

Some plastics deal better with thin sheets than others, being too thin can cause issues like warping , breaking during cooling due to internal stresses and things like that

Hi, do you know where i can find file with this stickers? I saw them on PP website earlier, but i cannot find it now.

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Plastic_Labels_-_Print_what_you_need.pdf

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there you find it

dadda29993

What do you mean of good plastic?

small,clean,dry and well ground and processed plastic

5:16 PM

the thinnest ive managed was 3mm thick part with a lot of spruing and recycled pellets

sioux612

Some plastics deal better with thin sheets than others, being too thin can cause issues like warping , breaking during cooling due to internal stresses and things like that

exactly,also blow molded plastic dont work with thing injection molds

Philipp

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Thank you very much

Hi everyone, I'm Davide and I'm new. I've just started studying plastics in order to give my contribution to this wonderful world as soon as possibile. It's awesome to see how many people are here to share things about plastics. I'd like to ask you something about PET, i'm watching the videos of the academy on the Precious Plastic website and i noticed that machines are designed for different type of plastic but not for PET. I could have the possibility to recicle PET, do you know which machines or processes can be applied for PET and eventually which type of products can come out? Thank you in advance to everyone

Hello reyclers. Today i just had interview with 18-years old James from Pennsylvania, He is studying MBA and his university is requiring 2-month summer intership on some project based intership, or something connected with lab work, or research. He like Precious Plastic very much also his dad too. He wanted to do intership in Precious Plastic Slovakia, but currently we dont have capacity for it. If this opportunity got your interest, please send me DM here, or send an email to preciousplasticsk@gmail.com

Hello dear plastic heroes!

I am a researcher at Cambridge University and just launched a research project to remanufacture plastic waste into housing products in Nepal. For this we are planning a global hybrid MAKEathon late March 2023 (yes in a month time, oops so soon!). In a nutshell, we are providing a context to utilise the precious plastic machines to channel plastic into a much-needed products in Nepal!!!!

Could you help how can I connect with local communities that would provide access to the machines and the local enthusiasts?

Sometime ago I helped with this research paper from Danish Design Center on open source tech and various business models.

OPENNEXT_RMC_V013.pdf

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Mattia

Sometime ago I helped with this research paper from Danish Design Center on open source tech and various business models.

this is a very good framework

Hello, I've been working lately on a way to sort small pieces of plastic. I maybe found a way to improve density separation by treating the plastic for wettability. and the using a froth separation technique... well, I'm still looking and searching. I'd love to know if other people of sorting shredded plastic since the ocean is full of it !!!

Hey all! Looking for a spreadsheet for traking collection type, amount etc. Anyone use one or have one they want to share?

https://twitter.com/TheOceanCleanup/status/1496877811541635074

The Ocean Cleanup (@TheOceanCleanup)

Another 7020kg of trash won't reach the ocean thanks to Interceptor 003 in Can Tho, Vietnam.

https://t.co/KjnRXTkDdS

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Hey all!

The new precious plastic channel isn't working for me. Says 'not found' in browser and I can't find anything searching in the app besides one army videos

WallHaxx

The new precious plastic channel isn't working for me. Says 'not found' in browser and I can't find anything searching in the app besides one army videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAK4C6aa-BXlqD2KsTx54xw here is the channel link

https://preciousplastic.com/

Precious Plastic is an open hardware platform enabling people to start their own plastic recycling project. Learn more here

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAK4C6aa-BXlqD2KsTx54xw here is the channel link

Thanks!

Hi ,firstly I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this concern . This is my first time purchasing via the bazaar, I saw an extruder for sale and contacted the seller but they havent responded yet, is it safe for me to continue with my transaction there?

Can I make 3d printer filaments from plastic soda bottles?

rajeshpachaikani

Can I make 3d printer filaments from plastic soda bottles?

Check out the channel #archived-3d-printing

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https://twitter.com/lesiavasylenko/status/1497184764469592065

Lesia Vasylenko (@lesiavasylenko)

Radiation levels are up in #Ukraine. Reports from monitoring stations have been crazy since the morning. #Russia takes Chernobyl and this is what you get.

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https://twitter.com/lesiavasylenko/status/1497184764469592065

The rise was caused by heavy military vehicles stirring contaminated soil in the 4,000-sq-km (2,485 sq-mile) exclusion zone surrounding the abandoned plant, Ukraine's State Nuclear Regulatory Inspectorate reported .

9:13 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-60528828 kinda less worrying

Chernobyl: Radiation spike at nuclear plant seized by Russian forces

But a disaster at the defunct nuclear power plant there is "extremely unlikely", experts say.

Not sure who is interested but im working this as much as I can! Trying to establish a way for your work to be worth much much more! Thank you all for the time you put in protecting our environment. I aim to help us build and become apart of the crypto space! I cant do it alone :) https://discord.gg/zKKRSSB5

https://twitter.com/Young_boy_Emmy/status/1497507102272729094

YOUNG_BOY_EMMY🌹💤🕊️ (@Young_boy_Emmy)

This man in Berlin has a message for Vladimir Putin

#ukraine #Russia https://t.co/mc7Jes9GhF

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I want to build injection molding machine manual .by using carbon activated gas mask shall i be safe during working..

Hey guys, are there any instructions on how to build a community injection machine. I saw one and I would try to build it...

To all in the free world. I'm posting this for a friend who is scared she might be traced for doing it herself.

11:32 PM

She was always very brave and she's done a lot of work for the Precious Plastic Community in Ukraine. I met her when she was traveling arount Europe to visit different Precious Plastic initiatives. I can't imagine the bravery she has to put up at this time when she's hiding in a bomb shelter in this moment. I'm posting this for her. Does any of you know where is a better place to post of maybe some of you have bigger influence and can share this too.

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To Precious Plastic Community around the world. I am from the Ukrainian Precious Plastic Movement. And maybe some of you already heard about the war in Ukraine which is going right NOW. I am writing this on behalf of all Ukrainians, because we need every human to stop this HELL! Right now russian army is invading Ukraine with weapon. Ukrainian civil people are hiding from bombs in shelters. Our army is defending every inch of the country. All day and all night.Russian soldiers just diying for nothing. What the world can do:- Don't believe in russian informational propaganda! No one here don't want any people to die. We are just brave enough to live in independence from them. You can read something here: - #standwithukraine - #stoprussia- ukrainer.net (11 languages)- official ukrainian governmental web sites For any IT people: https://t.me/itarmyofukraine2022Share this point of view to others. Please This is the least I can ask you about

Telegram: Contact @itarmyofukraine2022Share

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Hello Every One I am new to the One Army network. I come from France and more precisely not far from Nantes First of all, I would like to send you my enormous support, love, thanks, etc. You literally opened up the field of possibilities for me. Is it possible or it may have already been experimented to supply the machines with low voltage (110v)?? If so, do you have any examples or feedback to send me? I would end that one is armed is possible "ONE ARMY" Love

hi guys I am new to the group I am happy to be here

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Hello everyone, Quite some time ago the precious plastics discord community was visited by a university student that was writing a thesis of the issue of the Plastic recycling industry and reached out to us for our thoughts. Is that person still with this community? If so I would really like to talk with them (edited)

Hello All. Greeitngs from South Carolina. I am looking to get into creating a business here. Any info of other ppl in the states that can help with building the machines? Thank you

Hello everyone, greetings from Kitwe Zambia. I am here to learn, connect and thrive in plastic recycling business. Any help.

Hey there, I just started making my one plastic sheets in a veneerpress we have here at my university. I had quite a hard time finding significant amounts of plastic to get started. Now I got in touch witch a campany that makes PE foil und gave me there scraps that they have already shredded and pressed into granulate again. They said that they couldn't use it anymore but I'm not sure if I'm now up or downsicling that material. It's a mixture of LDPE and HDPE and that's why they don't use it anymore. Does anyone know what otherwise happens to material like this or has an oppinion on that toppic. Would be nice to hear. And the whole idea is to use it for furniture... Cheers. Jakob from Sweden

@jaccob

jaccob

Hey there, I just started making my one plastic sheets in a veneerpress we have here at my university. I had quite a hard time finding significant amounts of plastic to get started. Now I got in touch witch a campany that makes PE foil und gave me there scraps that they have already shredded and pressed into granulate again. They said that they couldn't use it anymore but I'm not sure if I'm now up or downsicling that material. It's a mixture of LDPE and HDPE and that's why they don't use it anymore. Does anyone know what otherwise happens to material like this or has an oppinion on that toppic. Would be nice to hear. And the whole idea is to use it for furniture... Cheers. Jakob from Sweden

Interested aswell

jaccob

Hey there, I just started making my one plastic sheets in a veneerpress we have here at my university. I had quite a hard time finding significant amounts of plastic to get started. Now I got in touch witch a campany that makes PE foil und gave me there scraps that they have already shredded and pressed into granulate again. They said that they couldn't use it anymore but I'm not sure if I'm now up or downsicling that material. It's a mixture of LDPE and HDPE and that's why they don't use it anymore. Does anyone know what otherwise happens to material like this or has an oppinion on that toppic. Would be nice to hear. And the whole idea is to use it for furniture... Cheers. Jakob from Sweden

seeing that its foil you probably be upcycling,once made into foil,most plastic will only go down,rarely up

4:47 PM

so for two different reasons it hard to recycled and for your use both of those are good

4:47 PM

so TLDR it would be upcycling

Ciaoo.. avrei bisogno della rete forata da applicare sotto lo shredeer ma non so dove acquistarla, qualcuno può aiutarmi?

Looking at extruded machine moulds on the internet I see people making beams that look to be around 1800 - 2000mm long . Has anyone had experience of making beams twice that length or has a rough idea on the maximum distance you can extrude into a mould ?

Lincthinks

Looking at extruded machine moulds on the internet I see people making beams that look to be around 1800 - 2000mm long . Has anyone had experience of making beams twice that length or has a rough idea on the maximum distance you can extrude into a mould ?

after about a 1.5 it gets quite difficult due to things like mold heating and mainly the pressure needed

9:50 PM

to extrude in this style,there is a lot of resistance,so the machine after that needs to be quite

9:50 PM

long

9:51 PM

if you need something that long then simpler and better to a continuous extruder

Could I use a injection machine instead perhaps to fill a mould from the top of the beam then clamp it down. Or would the plastic dry too quick for that method if I was trying to make a 4m length

sponsoons

if you need something that long then simpler and better to a continuous extruder

What could I do instead ?

Lincthinks

What could I do instead ?

a continous extruder like a commerical machine would be best if you need to make very long beams

Lincthinks

Could I use a injection machine instead perhaps to fill a mould from the top of the beam then clamp it down. Or would the plastic dry too quick for that method if I was trying to make a 4m length

No,and injection is even slower

Ah ok yeah thanks I’ll look it up appreciate the help !

the main thing is,why do you want to make this?

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if its for something big than a commerical extruder will work,but making solid beams will have trouble with plastic shrinking

10:01 PM

hollow beams or tubes in square and rectangular shapes are often made

10:01 PM

on bigger machines and lines

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but they lack the strenght

I’m looking at making building material alternatives non structural

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More for finishing . Skirtings architraves etc

sponsoons

but they lack the strenght

same for normal plastic beams,compared to the energy and cost to make them,their strenght is not proportional to their expense

Lincthinks

More for finishing . Skirtings architraves etc

theres a good amount of big companies doing that,since using recycled plastic for them is much cheaper and allows them to reduce the cost

10:04 PM

theres been a lot of cheap plastic finishings in the past couple years,so i assume their made atleast in part with recycled/scrap plastic

Yeah might be big process for small scale . Yeah it’s interesting there are some plastic material like flooring etc. still mainly timber being used a lot of pine

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Thanks for the advice

Lincthinks

Yeah might be big process for small scale . Yeah it’s interesting there are some plastic material like flooring etc. still mainly timber being used a lot of pine

pine is still being used,but today im seeing a lot of outdoor tiling made of recycled plastic

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theses things i meant

10:17 PM

youre seeing a lot of variations of them,most of them simplified being made out of recycled/scrap plastic

10:17 PM

one place i saw was making much simplified version of this out of mostly unsorted plastic

It’s great they can do it out of un sorted

Hello there! I´m Gustavo from Brazil, and it´s my first contact with the AMAZING One Army work! I´m a teacher in electromechanics course and I´d like to bring some machine projects to challenge my students to build them. However in the Download Area of Precious plastic website I can´t find the link to the "simple" machines. Every download I make, I get the PRO version. Somebody help? Thanks in advance!

Hi Gustavo, I share the same feeling!! Merciiiii ❤️ I'm having trouble accessing the machine plan.. I wanted to know if people have already experimented with melting plastic with wood heaters such as a dragon stove?? If yes, I would like to be able to exchange with these people. Thank you, thank you very much !

If I had a seriously mad crazy amount of every kind of plastic that ever was, what would be the best way for me to get rid of it? I just found this group's website through an article I read online. Eventually, I'd like to actually get to where I have the machines to do this stuff. I think this is a really good idea. But right now I have zero time to do anything because I inherited 6 acres from my father, who was a bit of a hoarder. I have a guy that's taking scrap metal. He's taking things like appliances and tearing them apart to be recycled. I have an enormous amount of everything, including plastic. I'm having to rent a 30 yard dumpster to send off to the landfill. I don't want to put anything in that dumpster, including all this random plastic. I have probably 30 plastic gasoline containers (1 to 5 gallon capacity). I have probably 20 "rubbermade" kinds of trash cans. I have PVC pipe for days and days and days. I also have the pvc or whatever material it is that covers wires because I have a literal truckload of copper wire that I'm stripping. What's the best way for me to get rid of all this plastic? I'm sure I have all kinds of other plastic out there. Believe me, you wouldn't believe an accurate description of the scene out there.

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Plastic buckets!! I have a bazillion 5 gallon plastic buckets! I'm in Texas by the way. Terrell, just east of Dallas.

dmray

If I had a seriously mad crazy amount of every kind of plastic that ever was, what would be the best way for me to get rid of it? I just found this group's website through an article I read online. Eventually, I'd like to actually get to where I have the machines to do this stuff. I think this is a really good idea. But right now I have zero time to do anything because I inherited 6 acres from my father, who was a bit of a hoarder. I have a guy that's taking scrap metal. He's taking things like appliances and tearing them apart to be recycled. I have an enormous amount of everything, including plastic. I'm having to rent a 30 yard dumpster to send off to the landfill. I don't want to put anything in that dumpster, including all this random plastic. I have probably 30 plastic gasoline containers (1 to 5 gallon capacity). I have probably 20 "rubbermade" kinds of trash cans. I have PVC pipe for days and days and days. I also have the pvc or whatever material it is that covers wires because I have a literal truckload of copper wire that I'm stripping. What's the best way for me to get rid of all this plastic? I'm sure I have all kinds of other plastic out there. Believe me, you wouldn't believe an accurate description of the scene out there.

see if you can find merchants who'll buy this stuff stock lot esp if its in decent condition

8:14 AM

a lot of places will buy them at something better then scrap rate if theyre still usable

Hi everyone

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Hello everyone, greetings from Lagos, Nigeria. I am an Environmentalist with over 15 years working experience. I'm here to learn, connect and thrive in plastic recycling business.

4:08 PM

I'm ready to collaborate with anyone here to start a recycle company here in Nigeria

4:08 PM

There are alot of waste plastic onshore and at the shore base here in Nigeria

Are the Picutres on the Website of Precious Plastic also Opensource? I would like to make a post on my local Email network to look out for People joining the Workspace and want to use an image from the website. I would use an Mark on the Picture "(c) Precious Plastic" Not sure if this here is the right place to ask

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@Otto_Gloeckner yes

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Hey, does anyone here know how to reuse the plastic from 3D printing? It'd be nice if somehow it could get melted down and reused to 3D print more.

@stephenNworgu I love to do that with you

clarinetist123

Hey, does anyone here know how to reuse the plastic from 3D printing? It'd be nice if somehow it could get melted down and reused to 3D print more.

it about as simple as any other plastic, you just have to make sure its sorted, put it through the shredder and throw it into an extruder

Could it be used in a 3d printer afterwards?

clarinetist123

Could it be used in a 3d printer afterwards?

The usual Precious Plastic extruders doesn't extrude with a consistent accurate diameter. You need something better to produce filament for a typical 3d printer

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Alright, thanks for the input

Hey guys! I'm Zach from the USA. Very excited to learn more about plastic recycling and how I can do more in the Seattle area.

I'm inspired by y'all's builds and ingenuity! so ...how much does all this shredding and re-melting smell like hot plastic?

Greetings folks.. im new here. Have been interested in recycleing and making my own filament for a whole now... heres an attempt at building my extruder..

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hi, uhm I guess it sounds like an intro & casual chat here, so ...I've got here by a youtube-video that referred to this project (while I was browsing for dynamo/solar/wind-powered electricity, as I'm using less devices in general & if sticking to nature, why not using its ressources too?) also inspired by durable clay/mud-huts to design them by hand than using concrete-blocks, as charitybased buildings in my region are still paying rent just being a team of volunteers, maybe if there are just single neighbors to collaborate yet, possibly this place gets people more united somehow. and Im bit inspiring labels by mailing suggestions because if they wrap food into non-transparent plastic and sticking images of edited graphics of them, it's more efficient if using transparent ones to actually see its pieces as there's no refund if you'd unseal it. at least some people still seem to stick to new stuff than upcycling, as they guess it's easier because others try to convince that owning stuff should be useful. I still rather prefer to stay close to zerowaste instead

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hi, uhm I guess it sounds like an intro & casual chat here, so ...I've got here by a youtube-video that referred to this project (while I was browsing for dynamo/solar/wind-powered electricity, as I'm using less devices in general & if sticking to nature, why not using its ressources too?) also inspired by durable clay/mud-huts to design them by hand than using concrete-blocks, as charitybased buildings in my region are still paying rent just being a team of volunteers, maybe if there are just single neighbors to collaborate yet, possibly this place gets people more united somehow. and Im bit inspiring labels by mailing suggestions because if they wrap food into non-transparent plastic and sticking images of edited graphics of them, it's more efficient if using transparent ones to actually see its pieces as there's no refund if you'd unseal it. at least some people still seem to stick to new stuff than upcycling, as they guess it's easier because others try to convince that owning stuff should be useful. I still rather prefer to stay close to zerowaste instead

" charitybased buildings in my region" where are you from i guess?

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"also inspired by durable clay/mud-huts to design them by hand than using concrete-blocks" Also on this note **Have you heard of Compressed Earth Blocks (CEBs) / Stabilized Compressed Earth Blocks (S-CEBs) ?

2:50 AM

I also think engineered bamboo products are pretty neat! (Although just using sustainably sourced local lumber/bamboo may be better than intensive bamboo farming in an ideal world? I'm not the ecological expert myself! )

yeah and it's somewhere in europe not yet, just heard of plasticbottle-houses in documentaries (while I worried about their noise if it's winter and cold getting them appear noisy) ...then hearing of similar houses getting those bottles filled with dry sand, later another method of just using sand, clay, mud and hay instead for designing them as bricks or putting them on ressources like wooden sticks (similar to covering them with that materials as layer) earth blocks sound easier to get than bamboo in my city somehow

Hello, I have some questions about the plastic obtained by Precious Plastic. Do you know what can be approximatively the price in euros of a tonne of plastic? Do you what is young's modulus of this plastic?

Laura Mulas

Hello, I have some questions about the plastic obtained by Precious Plastic. Do you know what can be approximatively the price in euros of a tonne of plastic? Do you what is young's modulus of this plastic?

These 2 questions have a lot of variables !

For the price, in France and in Netherland we bought some recycled plastic batch to industrial recycler for 600 to 1000€ a ton. But you need to be able to buy at least 500kg at once, and even though most of them will not accept to sell such small quantities.
For the Young's modulus, as well as for all mechanical properties, there is not answer ! First it would depend on the plastic type you have, then its purity, as in big recycling plant they will mix the plastic type from different source, and therefore with different additive, giving different properties.

Also, their dirtiness will impact negatively the properties. And finally you process as well : with the sheet-press for example, you get lower properties than with the extruder. All that to say, don't expect any reliable data here to calculate things. If this is not so important, you can roughly consider you will obtain 40-50% of the original mechanical properties after a recycling where you don't manage all these variables.

Laura I'd try to get rid of trashed waste in parks or at public places so it saves fuel for the ones who will gather those because of their job & you could maybe find more cans than plastic, possibly rather parts of it to do some solar models which uses steel, magnets, copper, sunlight, maybe a cd (depends on your planned type) that would be recycling in your region, same as unpolluting environment, optionally maybe asking for fishing in ocean, lakes, ponds, etc. to get rid of similar thrown away plastic somehow? in my case I rather tried finding a nearby industrial recycler but most of them just take up to tons, while good thing being the fact of manually dividing it than trashing it just by metal, rather in either magnetic or steel, aluminium, etc.

Hello community I am new here but have played a bit with mycelium. Based on a video I see about aluminum with hexagonal forms over it created a mycelium sheet with hexagonal shapes over it my initial tests showed that it resist more weight over it than the flat sheet of mycelium and I was wondering if someone here has tested that.

nope, not yet on my side...

(Joke) What do you call a very long, extruded piece of PLA that is 3D printed in the form of a wooden branch?

A PLA-NK ?

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Has anyone had experience building a single phase extruder pro if three phase isnt an option?

Hello everyone ! Just wondering if there's any beautiful souls in India Ocean and more specifically in Reunion Island ??? Want to develop precious plastic here :) (edited)

dmray

If I had a seriously mad crazy amount of every kind of plastic that ever was, what would be the best way for me to get rid of it? I just found this group's website through an article I read online. Eventually, I'd like to actually get to where I have the machines to do this stuff. I think this is a really good idea. But right now I have zero time to do anything because I inherited 6 acres from my father, who was a bit of a hoarder. I have a guy that's taking scrap metal. He's taking things like appliances and tearing them apart to be recycled. I have an enormous amount of everything, including plastic. I'm having to rent a 30 yard dumpster to send off to the landfill. I don't want to put anything in that dumpster, including all this random plastic. I have probably 30 plastic gasoline containers (1 to 5 gallon capacity). I have probably 20 "rubbermade" kinds of trash cans. I have PVC pipe for days and days and days. I also have the pvc or whatever material it is that covers wires because I have a literal truckload of copper wire that I'm stripping. What's the best way for me to get rid of all this plastic? I'm sure I have all kinds of other plastic out there. Believe me, you wouldn't believe an accurate description of the scene out there.

happy you think this way " don't want to put anything in that dumpster"

10:08 PM

as induvial we are on our own to fulfil this PreciousPlastic/OneArmy project, but once we find the drive & motivation todo something about it, then ground 0 is getting the workplace/equipment to help in transforming our wishes into reality...

10:08 PM

its the reality part, that the hardest to achieve as a One Person Army

Just spotted a message in the #archived-bazar-sellers channel, and I don't have access to post there (nor do I want it), about payment processing going through Stripe, so I thought I'd report on my recent experience with Stripe. I had an issue when creating an account with them, and their support was extremely unhelpful. Bad enough for me to absolutely avoid any company that uses them...

Hey everyone! After a chat with some folks of the French PP community, we thought it would be a good idea to have multi-language How-Tos Each writer could write a version in its native language, and another in english (and maybe contributors could translate in their own language) I don't realize yet what it means on a technical side, but it could really make the difference in spreading the word! And as @Nick - PP France said, how-tos are the best place to discover new stuff and get creative, which is another approach than a plain old wiki so it is at least as much relevant to translate than the academy

good evening everyone I just joined the community and would like to know more is there anyone in Italy who has already started some project?

check the "map"

10:47 PM

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Does Precious plastics need a software engineer? I am one

@RichC always

️ @davehakkens

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How do I get in contact with the ones that need help?

how you meany you can message them right

1:22 PM

sorry for bad english

Guys any help with the motors for the shredder and extrusion machine i need the specs bcz i cant find the same motors in lebanon

https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/nestonhighschoolmakerspace please connect with us we are a first British school running a precious plastic community program

The Lasso Is a Recycling Robot for Your Home

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Hey is there a community in Utah?

wabel

Hey is there a community in Utah?

Hey there @wabel, i just sent you an invite for the USA discord server :)

Thx

Hola que tal ? Alguna comunidad en Ecuador !?

Hi everyone

I am Xenia from Corfu Greece. I bought an old beat up van and a few precious plastic machines. We are going to travel from beach to beach this summer on the island of Corfu, getting people to do cleanups and make one little product as a souvenirs. During the whole process we will explain why recycling should be the last option and give people alternative options to plastic packaging and single use waste. In the evening we will show a documentary or film about the plastic pollution. The activity will be an experience tourists can pay for or businesses/communities/ organisations near a beach can hire us to do an event. We will also advertise businesses who have created solutions to plastic or have banned or started their journey to ban plastic. The project is called Precious Plastic Corfu Van and we are creating all the online media for it this month and in April we are making out promo video. Thanks for reading and hope to see some of you in person

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Dolphin313

Hi everyone

I am Xenia from Corfu Greece. I bought an old beat up van and a few precious plastic machines. We are going to travel from beach to beach this summer on the island of Corfu, getting people to do cleanups and make one little product as a souvenirs. During the whole process we will explain why recycling should be the last option and give people alternative options to plastic packaging and single use waste. In the evening we will show a documentary or film about the plastic pollution. The activity will be an experience tourists can pay for or businesses/communities/ organisations near a beach can hire us to do an event. We will also advertise businesses who have created solutions to plastic or have banned or started their journey to ban plastic. The project is called Precious Plastic Corfu Van and we are creating all the online media for it this month and in April we are making out promo video. Thanks for reading and hope to see some of you in person

(edited)

Maybe nice to get in contact with @Glykeria Makrygianni

Hey, I'm David from CHT / totalism.org hackbase (since 2011, currently in Fuerteventura, Canary Islands). Heard about Project Kamp and this channel in #hackbases on matrix.

Dolphin313

Hi everyone

I am Xenia from Corfu Greece. I bought an old beat up van and a few precious plastic machines. We are going to travel from beach to beach this summer on the island of Corfu, getting people to do cleanups and make one little product as a souvenirs. During the whole process we will explain why recycling should be the last option and give people alternative options to plastic packaging and single use waste. In the evening we will show a documentary or film about the plastic pollution. The activity will be an experience tourists can pay for or businesses/communities/ organisations near a beach can hire us to do an event. We will also advertise businesses who have created solutions to plastic or have banned or started their journey to ban plastic. The project is called Precious Plastic Corfu Van and we are creating all the online media for it this month and in April we are making out promo video. Thanks for reading and hope to see some of you in person

(edited)

this sounds super fun! looking forward to seeing your videos!!

This is pretty cool! https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-household/lasso-is-a-home-recycling-machine-to-fix-our-recycling-problem/

This appliance from Lasso Loop is like a mini recycling plant in your house.

Looks like a very good idea.

good morning

1:21 PM

i am un senegalese agripreneur and I have a project which includes the recycling in its actvities...I am looking for partners

Heyo

9:35 PM

Anyone around to chat for a little bit?

I had a coupling fail on my first generation shredder. The shafts was turning on the shredder side of the coupling. I was unable to press the shafts out with 5 tons in a shop press, so I just drilled through and put a pin in there. Previously there were 2 M5 screws onto a shallow flat on the shaft. All back together now with a different knives pattern - they push material to a broad central throat. Reassembly took about 3 hours.

Hello, could someone with knowledge help me? Me and my colleagues from our university in Brazil are trying to make 3d filament from PET through our extruder, but we have some issues with the temperature and frequency of the machine.

@Thalles I can give you some tips if you want. It took me months to get it right, but am now able to make it with decent quality.

Marcel123095

@Thalles I can give you some tips if you want. It took me months to get it right, but am now able to make it with decent quality.

that would be great, thanks!

11:23 PM

what temperature and frequency of rotation do you guys use?

@Thalles Don't know exactly about rotation (freq is 30hz with vfd), but temps are 210,220,230 for the heating zones.

wow, those numbers are pretty low. i was about to try 278 and 268, with 70 of frequency

12:29 AM

is related with the low frequency maybe?

12:32 AM

our material was not melting and floowing under 248. even got clogged

Hello, I introduce myself, Klein Tom and am currently in 3rd year of DNMADe Objet (design license) in Langogne (48). I take the liberty of contacting you as part of my end-of-year professional project which focuses on the theme "Waste". Having discovered your work on social networks, I was particularly interested in your values as well as your process set up alongside Fab UNIT in particular, whom I also contacted. In this process, my end-of-year project is to reuse PET2 or HDPE caps to achieve a prototype sorting bin dedicated to businesses. This aims to obtain more consistently positive and evolving results on recycling, which in my opinion is still sorely lacking in the professional environment. Also, I am asking you today because I would very much like to meet you in order to discuss more fully with you on various points which will allow me to consider my diploma project in a more serene and more precise way on technical aspects. Waiting for your response, please... Best regards, Tom Klein.

@Thalles PET has a higer temp than PETG, frequency has nothing to do with it, but you just need even heating and good material, simply putting shredded bottles in an extruder does not work well enough, you need compounded plastic.

Marcel123095

@Thalles PET has a higer temp than PETG, frequency has nothing to do with it, but you just need even heating and good material, simply putting shredded bottles in an extruder does not work well enough, you need compounded plastic.

how can i make compounded plastic?

@Thalles Extrude it and shred it to make even sized pallets, but I can't stress this enough you need very clean plastic, and you will need to process at least 15-20kg a day if you want to have any chance at paying wages and rent.

then is the process after getting our filament from the machine

Yep

Hi, i am new here. I was wondering where i can post a suggestion regarding project kamp. I have a system we can use for the yearly timelapse.

Hi everyone. I was wondering whether there was anybody I could please speak to about eco practices - specifically around using hydrogen as a backup to solar power, and composting set up partly into biogas and partly into fertilizer)? Thank you

Hello hello!!! I am on a team making a plastic shredder and injection molding machine. The injection molder will be done far sooner than the shredder so I am wondering if anyone has PETG shredded flakes for sale. It would be really helpful if they are in any of the following colors white, black, and yellow/gold

ArthurSG, I guess PETG won't be offered in my region just rePET, HD-PE, PP, PE, PET ...btw in which region are you looking for them? as I'm focused on walking by feet, I wouldn't support sending still if there are some projects nearby e.g. in europe/austria/vienna, could be cool to shred them there?

Lucidarior

ArthurSG, I guess PETG won't be offered in my region just rePET, HD-PE, PP, PE, PET ...btw in which region are you looking for them? as I'm focused on walking by feet, I wouldn't support sending still if there are some projects nearby e.g. in europe/austria/vienna, could be cool to shred them there?

Ahh I am in the states. The Purdue University Northwest is trying to set up an injection molding workspace and shredder workspace. I noticed when I looked through the brazar there were very very few instances of petg I think rePET, PET, and PETE are all very close in properties to PEGT so I believe they might be workable as well

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Marcel123095

Yep

ok, thanks for the help!

8:49 PM

we discovered that the nozzle is not heating up enough, and the material is clogging

Morning people , I'm new here and I am from South Africa

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hi De buys

Hi guys could someone provide the link to the video where the people from holland build the shipping containers for project kamp? I can't find it. :(

Hey Im new here and I'm trying to start a business in recycled plastic. I'm looking for a shredder that would work but really struggle with finding the right kind of shredder. I'm looking for something not so large desktop size. Anyone have any InSite? Thanks.

Hiii, I'm new here and I have question please: witch type of gloves I must use when melting hdpe. Can someone share with me website selling this type of gloves

Ciao, i have just started chatting on discord, giving it a try

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Brent Jenkins

Hey Im new here and I'm trying to start a business in recycled plastic. I'm looking for a shredder that would work but really struggle with finding the right kind of shredder. I'm looking for something not so large desktop size. Anyone have any InSite? Thanks.

maybe slicing them with scissors if it's like no cap or too thick materials? or trying to melt them instead?

Hey guys! Just joined looking to learn and connect with you all

️ We recycle used office furniture and focus on getting the material back into reuse such as the PP plastic from office chairs

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Gm everyone! I just found out about precious plastics, binge watched all the YouTube videos and am so excited that a community like this exists. If anyone wants to geek out about it hmu

koko

Gm everyone! I just found out about precious plastics, binge watched all the YouTube videos and am so excited that a community like this exists. If anyone wants to geek out about it hmu

Have you already found the other OneArmy YT channels?

Has anyone just used a machine like this:https://www.amazon.com/TECHTONGDA-Granulator-Disintegrator-Multi-Function-Single-Phase/dp/B09DPGSYLS?th=1

TECHTONGDA 2.2KW Plastic Granulator Heavy-Duty Bottle Cardboard Dis...

TECHTONGDA 2.2KW Plastic Granulator Heavy-Duty Bottle Cardboard Disintegrator Electric Chipper Crusher Multi-Function Rubber Grinding Machine Single-Phase 220V

4:48 PM

I am sure it is not quite as nice as the PP machines, but they are fully built, safe, "easy" to use. I just wanted to see if anyone has experience with them!

4:48 PM

thanks!

blastic

Ciao, i have just started chatting on discord, giving it a try

retrying to try

Guys there was a paper written back in 2013 about how we can convert plastic to carbon fibre, does anyone know about it???

Hello, I am wondering does anyone know we're I can find the laser files for the shredder v3. The one the uses the larger hex bar as my country doesnt have the 27mm?

Hi everyone

hi everyone...

8:59 AM

any people from Greece , i am interested in connecting...

Hi everyone! I am a member of a group of graduate students planning to have a mix pp workshop in our university

2:16 PM

do you know if the shredder and injection machines for small-scale are commonly manufactured?

2:16 PM

we are trying to find them locally or second-hand, but we only have found big machines

Zulma

we are trying to find them locally or second-hand, but we only have found big machines

look for 'manual injection machine'

2:18 PM

my other way is youtube,a lot of thes vids have numbers listed and those numbers for me atleast worked out

sponsoons

my other way is youtube,a lot of thes vids have numbers listed and those numbers for me atleast worked out

do you mean PP youtube channel?

Zulma

do you mean PP youtube channel?

no like

2:20 PM

search for shit like manual injection molding 'manual injection machine'

2:20 PM

and often those vids will have phone numbers in them

sponsoons

and often those vids will have phone numbers in them

ok, thank you!!

Does precious plastic have a Twitter account?

Jolly LaMa

Hey One Army! I've been a fan of your mission for quiet a few years now and your stellar community just popped in my mind when I was contemplating value creation patterns with this token engineering club. Anywhoooo, I thought

these two communities are a match made in heaven and if you're not into it yet, maybe you might like to be! https://tokenengineeringcommunity.github.io/website/ Keep up the great Earth Saving work!

@𝕃𝕆𝕂𝕀 (Colorado, USA) @Jolly LaMa would love to see a new dedicated channel or conversation about creating a DAO with its own coin for the PP community.

koko

Gm everyone! I just found out about precious plastics, binge watched all the YouTube videos and am so excited that a community like this exists. If anyone wants to geek out about it hmu

sure, at least inspiration could be focused on around the globe than just for neighbors closeby?

Were can I find the files for the long shredder?

[Self Introductions] おはよう I am Jarvis (仁さん)、 a british data scientist currently living in Japan. I am looking to start a mobile workstation inside a van by the end of the year, and was wondering if anyone has done this before ? The aim is to run beach cleanup and set up recycling station on sight at the event. If anyone done something similar before please feel free to contact me on discord or Instagram ( jarvissan25）

Hello folks, wondering if anybody UK based is selling recycled plastic bricks? Very keen to get hold of some!

Hello, are there people here from Austria who collect plastics for precious plastic?

Hello everyone!

Quick, everyone! Start making agitprop linking oil to war again, but the exact opposite way as during the Iraq war! So like, instead of "No blood for oil" it's "no oil for blood". Posters, & memes, too. Get this shit all over social media and wherever people are allowed to wheatpaste. Let's forever link petrochemicals to war crimes.

@Eric Lotze hi, could you please share with me the type of gloves and from where can I buy it? Thank you

Hello, I am new here. Please I'm hoping to find someone from the administrators of this group to talk to about my potential recycling idea in Africa???

4:34 AM

And info about which machines a may need for the project

JarvisSan

[Self Introductions] おはよう I am Jarvis (仁さん)、 a british data scientist currently living in Japan. I am looking to start a mobile workstation inside a van by the end of the year, and was wondering if anyone has done this before ? The aim is to run beach cleanup and set up recycling station on sight at the event. If anyone done something similar before please feel free to contact me on discord or Instagram ( jarvissan25）

We are working on this. We have a van, we have the machines

but they all need some fixing before we can hit the road

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Dolphin313

We are working on this. We have a van, we have the machines

but they all need some fixing before we can hit the road

Nice. What machines have you packed into it ? Also how are your powering the machines ?

JarvisSan

Nice. What machines have you packed into it ? Also how are your powering the machines ?

Machines are on normal electricity, we will plug them at a house, store, or beachbar near the beach. Shredder and injection machine. (edited)

Hello I am developing a new product for 3d printing and recycling and I would really like to have some information about what user needs actually are so I made the questionnaire below. It will only take 2-3 minutes https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScr9Y0irxekWaj7uLhoTvcoq06p8BNXCRQwd7F3cZTrWJ7iKw/viewform

Research for new 3dprinting product

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Hello, are there people here from Austria who collect plastics for precious plastic?

from which region there? maybe we could collab somehow if coincidentally being in the same part there...

Hi, everyone. I want to build the shredder machine can anyone help me out here?

Gaurav

Hi, everyone. I want to build the shredder machine can anyone help me out here?

Hey. Sure thing. With what have got problems?

DragonAtelier

Hey. Sure thing. With what have got problems?

I need this shredder machine but I don't find it anywhere in local market nor the parts. Is there any seller where I can get the parts or machine itself?

As far as I remeber when I built mine a while ago - here is the site with plans https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/shredder-21

https://qz.com/2150031/plastic-use-in-agriculture-is-contributing-to-climate-change/

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

2:47 PM

You can then send those plance for a machinist to cut the pieces and then tou have the kit for yourself to build

2:52 PM

@Gaurav

DragonAtelier

You can then send those plance for a machinist to cut the pieces and then tou have the kit for yourself to build

Machinist? I've got an angle grinder.

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Deleted User

Machinist? I've got an angle grinder.

That works too. But I did mine blades laser cut not by an angle grinder

Hey guys I'm Rex from Toronto. A friend introduced me to precious plastic a few years back and it's always been something on my mind. I'm currently the cofounder and ceo of an ecommerce startup in Canada called Plant Collective where we deliver house plants and home goods direct to consumer right to their door. Though we've got some decent traction (doing just over $3m in our last fiscal year), I've become more aware of how wasteful our industry is and it saddens me to the point of causing loss of motivation to grow my business at the cost of the planet. Due to this realization, I want to pivot my business to help make a positive ecological impact at scale by participating in the precious plastic ecosystem to recycle, develop and sell recycled plastic products. My problem is I'm looking for help to build or identify a model that will put us on a path to make a big dent on the plastic waste being produced. For example I love playing guitar but guitar picks are just so small that their value is more educational and novelty than actually diverting enough waste. If anyone has an existing business model fleshed out with numbers on what type of ecommerce d2c activities can make the biggest impact on the planet I would love to chat. Thanks!

Plastic use in agriculture is contributing to climate change

Plasticulture has long-term effects on the environment and our food.

I've selected the project kamp project but I'm not seeing a project kamp tab/channel

the same thing

Please review the #🖐start-here channel! React for roles on the appropriate post.

Already did that

that is wat i did, clicked the reaction emoticon, but nothing happened

Jup

Maybe give it a moment to update, or possibly refresh discord.

It just popped up for me

ah, the same

6:46 PM

takes quite a while to update then

my mind is blown away by the discovery of this amazing online and irl community. so many aspects and dreams of my life taking place around here that i feel i have found a society worth living in. oh man this is crazy.

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cursedlion

my mind is blown away by the discovery of this amazing online and irl community. so many aspects and dreams of my life taking place around here that i feel i have found a society worth living in. oh man this is crazy.

That is an awesome artitude. Welcome to the community

DragonAtelier

That is an awesome artitude. Welcome to the community

thank you.

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if somebody have a detailed of the extruder please share

1:27 AM

thank you

Hello everyone , i'm from Belgium i am writing a sort of instruction manual as project for school, the project is that the instruction manual can be used by everyone that has it in possession and can start with constructing the extruder . I choose a subject the extruder for the instruction manual because the goal is that it be used by the industrial schools in my city .

1:44 AM

if i can have some help of you guys it be wholesome , if you have some documents with explanation of how to do the maintenance or the construction or security or something else it be wholesome

1:45 AM

thank you

yo

3:37 PM

im interested in project kamp

pd

im interested in project kamp

add the Project Kamp role to your roles and it will give you access to the PK channels

i clicked emoji it didnt add role

go to #🖐start-here and follow the steps

3:58 PM

seems like you already have the role

I've come here through the Project Kamp yt channel and I must say I'm truly amazed by the amazing inventive initiatives being developed here. Very cool to see :D

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I wonder if I could do the same thing they r doing but in canada

2:19 AM

It seems like such a good time

Hi ! im new here, where can i get the Blueprints for Extruder PRO? Thanks !

Luchobas

Hi ! im new here, where can i get the Blueprints for Extruder PRO? Thanks !

hello! here are all the download files! https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

Hi there, I was wondering if anyone can help me out with some information about injector extruder machines that are transportable and safe to take into schools, any feedback or links would be great, also do these have to be certified for school use? (edited)

2:02 PM

Thanks

Hello, how can I send a mensage to this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHKph8nMC3A ? I live near the project kamp and I wanna help @everyone

Project Kamp

#41 START NEW SEASON! Here is everything we will do coming year

Awe !!!! I love this, I just signed up for general helper I wanna come help y’all and learn as much as I can because next year I’m taking up a project of my own building a off the grid eco property I wanna learn more about recycling plastic to sheets as there’s soo much plastic waste in Africa I really want to make good use of it and clean up our environment

Hello everyone ! I’m Elsa I’m a product design student in Lyon, France. I’m currently looking for an internship within precious plastic community for June or September in Europe or Maghreb to learn the savoir-faire of plastic recycling and help planet and people. So if you search someone or if you know someone who is, please let me know and I will send you my CV and portfolio!

Hi everyone, does someone know the size of the land the guys from project kamp got ? Or any information on minimum size requirements for an off grid project ?

@FranciscoXRA @Mtha @LeoSD please go to #🖐start-here and follow the steps to include Project Kamp in your roles to get access to their channels. Have fun ProjectKamp

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sorry, i skipped ahead! thanks!!

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Hey there, are you guys building this in Brasil? Or is it Portugal?

Its in Portugal. but i dont know which city or district, anyone can tell us?

Gm!

6:19 PM

Can I speak with someone from the team? We got interesting idea to expand You project little bit

this is the sickest thing ever!!

hi hi

Hello! I just discovered this project through the year-one recap video on YT. I am very intrigued, envious, and inspired! Looking forward to following along and learning. Cheers!

Hello. I had a couple of questions about project kamp. What's the soil like? (pH? presence of clay?,...) and which plants were there?

@frenabo found the channel yesterday and spent a great part of the day watching their videos getting some ideas

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Just wanted to let all of you know, that you are definitely one of the most wholesome discord servers that I have seen. EmberLove

Carolina

@FranciscoXRA @Mtha @LeoSD please go to #🖐start-here and follow the steps to include Project Kamp in your roles to get access to their channels. Have fun ProjectKamp

Have a look over this message @zimba @PredatorPT @frenabo @Strictus

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Hi All.. I was wondering if there any danger for school children (age 10-16 ish) to use a PP workshop? They will have protective equipment like the carbon fibre masks. Is there any literature / research that supports the use of the PP by any age group? Best, Andrada

Hi all, is there any place where the logo's are downloadable to create some t-shirts for our school kids?\

a got a hint alreadyl.....not .svg but a lot to work from.

1:51 PM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/universe/yourlogo

All about Precious Plastic educational workshops

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Andrada Calin

Hi All.. I was wondering if there any danger for school children (age 10-16 ish) to use a PP workshop? They will have protective equipment like the carbon fibre masks. Is there any literature / research that supports the use of the PP by any age group? Best, Andrada

hey hey necessary precautions are a must, however, we have plenty of examples of people running workshops with kids

@Mattia thanks for the answer ..any examples I can use as references? Cheers

Hi you all, this is Hector from SuuT KuXtaL. We've just changed the heater bands of our injection machine (last got burned). Any video or tutorial how to program PDI (ours: INKBIRD ITC-100VH). Thank you!

@Andrada Calin was trying to find practical examples.. best I could find is thishttps://www.onearmy.earth/news/educational-workshops

Learn the ins & outs of Precious Plastic educational workshops and meet the many people making a business out of it.

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9:49 AM

Hope it helps

@Mattia this is helpful! Thanks for that

We are really feeling inflation costs recently over here in the Philippines.

We have to raise prices and can only gurantee sales quotes for 2 weeks now (edited)

3:06 AM

no idea how long we can keep doors open if people stop buying

@PP Team Anyone know what happened to the Oceania channel in regions??

NoMorePlastic

@PP Team Anyone know what happened to the Oceania channel in regions??

should be fixed

sorry for the inconvenience

Mattia

should be fixed

sorry for the inconvenience

thx

@Butte (PP Philippines) How bad is it? I think it is all over the world at this point.

Sono stati cancellati tutti i sottogruppi?

mattiabaky

Sono stati cancellati tutti i sottogruppi?

No, you need to go in Precious Plastic #👋start-here and click if you want to support or contribute. This will then open all the related channels.

Butte (PP Philippines)

We are really feeling inflation costs recently over here in the Philippines.

We have to raise prices and can only gurantee sales quotes for 2 weeks now (edited)

Hi @Butte (PP Philippines) we just added paypal to Bazar so you should be able to join now ! (before was only stripe and was not available in Philippines) . I would highly recommend you join to increase your sales (10,000 people visit every month)

1:06 PM

bazar.preciousplastic.com for those who haven't been. !

Joseph

Hi @Butte (PP Philippines) we just added paypal to Bazar so you should be able to join now ! (before was only stripe and was not available in Philippines) . I would highly recommend you join to increase your sales (10,000 people visit every month)

@Butte (PP Philippines) join the #archived-bazar-sellers club

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Hello all. My interest is within the Project Kamp aspect of the ‘platform options’, however, it seems that there isn’t a dedicated ‘channel’ on the sidebar (on Discord). Is this correct, or am I missing something?

#🖐start-here contents emojis, who trigger the different channels to show. (edited)

Having trouble accessing the Oceania group - is it just me, or did it disappear along with all the other continent-specific chats?

mizza

Having trouble accessing the Oceania group - is it just me, or did it disappear along with all the other continent-specific chats?

country channels will show up once you choose your project of interest in #🖐start-here

Hello everyone, just found out about precious plastic through the excellent Low Tech Lab podcast (french). I am struggling with the map on PP website (can only see 3 starter members incl me), any hint ? @support

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hi @SoapMaker are you on this URL? https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

https://forms.gle/upASjTHEaWdZijmd8 HPO invites you to share your skills in the field of material recycling at «Milano Design Week 2022». The international architectural practice Andrea Caputo is curating and hosting an exhibition designed by HPO, starting this June. The exhibition focuses specifically on objects destruction and materials transformation, displaying several functioning shredding machines in front of a large public. The show is organized as an audiovisual performance, with the collaboration of sound/lighting designers and any individual who is interested in sharing their cultural or material contribution regarding the theme of material transformation. During the Design Week a series of talks, musical events, and performances are scheduled to be staged around these machines. Therefore, HPO invites all the community that gathers around material destruction and recycling to bring their shredders to Milan and/or join the event with a physical or digital contribution. With the help of the HPO staff, the machine owners will be asked to show the process to the public in some specific moments during the Design Week, based on their availability. The exhibition will be set up in a 350 sm venue, nearby Milano Centrale railway station. It will be open to the public from 6th to 13th June 2022. If you are interested in bringing your shredder to Milan please let us know, so we could manage to bring it there in the last week of May. All inquiries can be sent to info@h-p-o.eu If you are interested in participating or in giving a proposal, do not hesitate to send us an e-mail. Submission: We ask you to fill out this form by May 6th and you will hear back from HPO immediately. https://forms.gle/upASjTHEaWdZijmd8 www.h-p-o.eu www.andreacaputo.com Thank you!

OPEN CALL: European shredders in Milan - June 2022

HPO invites you to share your skills in the field of material recycling at «Milano Design Week 2022». The international architectural practice Andrea Caputo is curating and hosting an exhibition designed by HPO, starting this June. The exhibition focuses specifically on objects destruction and materials transformation, displaying several func...

I have tons of plastics I need to get rid off in Rotterdam. Is there anyone who wants to collect it? Who can hok me up?

good fatsoon

I have tons of plastics I need to get rid off in Rotterdam. Is there anyone who wants to collect it? Who can hok me up?

hey @good fatsoon have you check out the Precious Plastic Community Map? (https://community.preciousplastic.com/map) you can find workspaces in your area and see if they are willing to take in your plastic.

Hi Joseph, thanks for picking up the issue. I confirm, same URL, still no see other adresses (and I am sure there are !). Btw, great videos on business

SoapMaker

Hi Joseph, thanks for picking up the issue. I confirm, same URL, still no see other adresses (and I am sure there are !). Btw, great videos on business

try clearing your cache and revisiting the website. Might be just a small bug

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SoapMaker

Hi Joseph, thanks for picking up the issue. I confirm, same URL, still no see other adresses (and I am sure there are !). Btw, great videos on business

hehe thanks ! Weird about the map...will pass along to the @Community Platform team

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Hugh

try clearing your cache and revisiting the website. Might be just a small bug

Hello Hugh, you fixed it !, thanks for that

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SoapMaker

Hello Hugh, you fixed it !, thanks for that

great glad it worked out!

Mattia

@Butte (PP Philippines) join the #archived-bazar-sellers club

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Can we list a sort of combo product on the bazar? We make a recycled shampoo bar case and offer the case with the shampoo bar included?

Butte (PP Philippines)

Can we list a sort of combo product on the bazar? We make a recycled shampoo bar case and offer the case with the shampoo bar included?

Yes you can add an "option" to any product listing

Hello Everyone! I have some questions about the bazar maybe you're able to answer. We want to start selling there as soon as sign-ups are up and running again. Re.Works is one working area within a makerspace called Habibi.Works, based in Greece, but currently a registered Non-Profit organization in Germany. Does being registered as a non-profit qualify us to register in the Bazar?

Re.Works

Hello Everyone! I have some questions about the bazar maybe you're able to answer. We want to start selling there as soon as sign-ups are up and running again. Re.Works is one working area within a makerspace called Habibi.Works, based in Greece, but currently a registered Non-Profit organization in Germany. Does being registered as a non-profit qualify us to register in the Bazar?

Hi there! Yes you can sign up no problem (signups are open again)

Joseph

Hi there! Yes you can sign up no problem (signups are open again)

thank you, Joseph! Do we need to be a Precious Plastic ally to participate in the bazar? (we also have some questions about becoming an ally, which are related to being part of a bigger organization)

Re.Works

thank you, Joseph! Do we need to be a Precious Plastic ally to participate in the bazar? (we also have some questions about becoming an ally, which are related to being part of a bigger organization)

nope! no need . What are you questions about the ally program?

Hello! I'm brand new here. My spouse and I just heard of Precious Plastic on the CBC Radio show The Current this morning. (edited)

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@Gaeaphile | tD cooool, welcome to the world of a crazy and wonderful small scale recycling community

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Hello, I recently started a recycling hub called Plastic Yard in Nigeria. The plan is to build affordable machines for plastic recycling. (edited)

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Hi, i'm new here ^^ i'm trying to build a place for recycling plastic in Lyon, it's really a start but i'm working on it !

Hello all

My name is Archana, I work at a design agency that is setting up an exhibition for kids - the theme of the exhibition is educating the kids about keeping the oceans clean and how we can covert trash (ocean plastics) to treasure (various products). For the exhibition we need various trash sources from the ocean like - PET bottles, Thin Plastic bags, Fishing nets (green and black) as well as other plastic waste from the ocean. Could you please give me suggestions on who I can contact for acquiring these materials? Thanks

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Hello sir, I am Jigme and chatting from Bhutan. I am impressed by the work precious plastic is doing to recycle the waste plastic and I am planning to start plastic recycling business. The only draw back I face now is buying machine parts to build the required machine since its not readily available. So I want to know whether I can purchase one or not. If purchase is available what are the procedure I should follow. Help

Jigme

Hello sir, I am Jigme and chatting from Bhutan. I am impressed by the work precious plastic is doing to recycle the waste plastic and I am planning to start plastic recycling business. The only draw back I face now is buying machine parts to build the required machine since its not readily available. So I want to know whether I can purchase one or not. If purchase is available what are the procedure I should follow. Help

You can buy a completed machine on the bazaar, or print the models out and take it to a metal / machining shop to mill the parts for you

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I havent yet done either, since both options are rather expensive since I dont even own a sander, buying all the equipment + tools would land me somewhere in the 10k eur+ range. Still researching and trying to find the cheapest options

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heyo, im the big dumb dumb who pesters one army over email with dumb ideas for how to implement phonebloks. i also do some software stuff.

Hi everyone ! You intend to set up a business out of plastic recycling or you’re already running? I need you for a short interview! Please get in touch via private messages. Thanks for your help!

Hi People! Quick question (maybe it extends into a longer discussion!) Anybody used the extruder with extras added to the plastic? Sand..? as per this video, 1:27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k55UR4ykaeQ I have been invited to help I+D to try and make some brick type with recycled plastic, and what I have found online obviously uses much large extruders, but during the first testing phase, to try and find the right mixture and do tests with proper testing machines on these mixtures, we wish to use a V4 Extruder.. I know that the sand will destroy the tube earlier of later, but this is not a problem during the initial I+D phase, just would like to know if anyone else has already tried it and can aport their experience..?

Mihir Kamani

Edison Manufacturing Unit (Plastic Waste Paver Blocks)

@Andymid We can help you out with process and technology

Hello everyone

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Hi @Andymid ! We just got a grant to upgrade our current open source recycled plastic brick and are now in the research phase. Sand is one thing we will be looking into. You should join our working group in #archived-brick-dev !

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Abhishek1912

@Andymid We can help you out with process and technology

Hi Abhishek! Cool! What can you tell me ..? Atm we are looking in to making small scale tests with different fillers with the plastic; to make with injection mould some standard test parts that the local university can do stress tests on, and to make one off brick tests with the V4 extruder when we find a suitable candidate mix of plastic and filler... we are considering trying sand (obviously), plaster has also been suggested, although personally not sure how that will go, but, testing is for testing!

Joseph

Hi @Andymid ! We just got a grant to upgrade our current open source recycled plastic brick and are now in the research phase. Sand is one thing we will be looking into. You should join our working group in #archived-brick-dev !

nice! I shall follow with interest and publish updates when we have any .. will be at least a couple of months as first I have to build the machines

My university has completed a shredder and an injection molding machine we made one mold of our schools logo for a keychain. And we ordered a USB over molding mould to have our school logos too. We purchased the USB chips, a large blue recycling bin we can roll around campus to promote the recycling center and collect plastic waste, and we even purchased a set of 6 large storage bins for our plastic we will be shredding and processing soon

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We are currently trying to apply for a designated room for permanently set up a shop on our campus

Hi! I'd like to find a way to take our large supply of ldpe film and ideally create geodesic dome greenhouses. I'm thinking we can make the beams with compression molding? Will this be strong enough? Has anyone ever tried making translucent panels that would let enough light through with recycled material? Thank you!

@Wild_Inventor nice one!

make sure to add your uní to the map and share pics of your work in #archived-showcase

Mattia

@Wild_Inventor nice one!

make sure to add your uní to the map and share pics of your work in #archived-showcase

Ahh how do I do that. And definitely once we got the shop actually up and running

You make an account here https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

does anyone have the 3d file in solidworks of the injection machine?

Hi, I'm Niki, a Food Innovation - Packaging & Design student at the HAS Hogeschool in the Netherlands. At the moment I'm working on my graduting project together with one other student. We have to research waste of a bakery industry and upcycle the material by making something new out of it. The only mono plastic is PE (all the others are laminates) and it is not really super much after one day of production. I was wondering if any of you have any tips? Also if somebody would know small companies/workshops that we could contact to see if it is viable to make a new product on a smaal scale? Thanks for the help in advance!

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Niczki

Hi, I'm Niki, a Food Innovation - Packaging & Design student at the HAS Hogeschool in the Netherlands. At the moment I'm working on my graduting project together with one other student. We have to research waste of a bakery industry and upcycle the material by making something new out of it. The only mono plastic is PE (all the others are laminates) and it is not really super much after one day of production. I was wondering if any of you have any tips? Also if somebody would know small companies/workshops that we could contact to see if it is viable to make a new product on a smaal scale? Thanks for the help in advance!

Reach out to B-materials. They are a company that recycles plastic into 3D printing filament and makes things out of it like vases. They are also from the Netherlands too. @Marcel123095 (edited)

Thank you, will do that! ✨

Hi everyone. I've been busy and haven't been active here for awhile. I hope you all have a nice day!

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Hi All, This is my first post on the site! I wondered if anyone could advise me if there is anywhere local to Liverpool where I can donate plastic bottle tops for recycling or upcycling?

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FOMD

Hi All, This is my first post on the site! I wondered if anyone could advise me if there is anywhere local to Liverpool where I can donate plastic bottle tops for recycling or upcycling?

Hi @FOMD have you checked out the Community Map? https://community.preciousplastic.com/map There are a few workspaces in the UK and could possibly take your plastic in

hello, its really great to be here.

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Alhsulex19

hello, its really great to be here.

It is! isn't it?

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Were would I post ideas?

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here?

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These sort of videos are so fun and so addicting to watch. Keep it going!

JLJ

Were would I post ideas?

You can post general ideas here, or if they are related to any specific topic (machines, plastic, websites, etc.) It's probably best to post them in the more specific channels :)

hey iam new here

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Ahh is it just me, or has all the precious plastics channels disappeared???

@Wild_Inventor go to "start here" under the precious plastic category

Found it thanks

Just got done binging all of project kamp. Awesome series. Can’t wait to see where it goes from here.

B ezos

Just got done binging all of project kamp. Awesome series. Can’t wait to see where it goes from here.

Feel free to join the Project Kamp channels #kamp-chat #development #inspiration and get in touch with all the others that are in there

Not sure if anyone cares or wants to know but I am considering setting up a work space for making plastic tiles with a terrible budget because I am broke so I am going to go as far as to make my own power tools from recycled parts

LEMON

Not sure if anyone cares or wants to know but I am considering setting up a work space for making plastic tiles with a terrible budget because I am broke so I am going to go as far as to make my own power tools from recycled parts

Haha love this message, that's the spirit

You can always go step by step, and to be honest I find it amazing how low budget these machines can actually be (if you are creative enough and don't expect CE certified machines). Let us know how it goes!

Kat

Haha love this message, that's the spirit

You can always go step by step, and to be honest I find it amazing how low budget these machines can actually be (if you are creative enough and don't expect CE certified machines). Let us know how it goes!

Alright will send a message when ever I complete a decent part of project, just looked at end goal (producing plastic tiles) and worked my way back to tools I will need and how to make them

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So I am going to take my old damaged washing machine and try to get the motor from it and see if it still runs, if it runs I will try to make an angle grinder from the motor

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Who can tell me about the story of precious plastics and the founding team? I am writing an article for a local newspaper in Canada and would love to know more!

koko

Who can tell me about the story of precious plastics and the founding team? I am writing an article for a local newspaper in Canada and would love to know more!

You might have seen it, but this is a good starting point :) http://preciousplastic.com/about/history.html

Precious Plastic History

Learn where Precious Plastic comes from, from the early days until now.

Thanks Katharina

@Kat

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Hello people, i just came across a youtube channel of a guy I used to know, he and a friend of him make boating adventures focused on preserving nature, environmental change and pollution There last big Video was about a big Kayak Trip in Norway and soon they will release a video about how they went down the danube with a DIY Boat they built out of recycled materials. On the way they took water samples to shine light on how polluted the danube is getting. I just went there to check if the video is released, and found out that they have not cracked 500 Views on any of their videos despite having top notch quality. I immediately had to think about how the audience of project camp and One Army in general would fit perfect to them. Would it be allowed to post their channel/videos here? I promise i have no relations to them other then hanging out with this guy a few times 4 or 5 years ago.

https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/ very interesting stuff on this site by the way

LOW-TECH MAGAZINE

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SkateFastEatAss

Hello people, i just came across a youtube channel of a guy I used to know, he and a friend of him make boating adventures focused on preserving nature, environmental change and pollution There last big Video was about a big Kayak Trip in Norway and soon they will release a video about how they went down the danube with a DIY Boat they built out of recycled materials. On the way they took water samples to shine light on how polluted the danube is getting. I just went there to check if the video is released, and found out that they have not cracked 500 Views on any of their videos despite having top notch quality. I immediately had to think about how the audience of project camp and One Army in general would fit perfect to them. Would it be allowed to post their channel/videos here? I promise i have no relations to them other then hanging out with this guy a few times 4 or 5 years ago.

Hello :) yes please share it, sounds very cool!

Ok Great! so this is their channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPqUu-uh2U1-zSM1C09lRcw this is the full Norway Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U_qzUE-vyA and the Trailer for the danube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQS9N_PSnlU I hope you enjoy and show them some support

Thanks

does anybody can help me making extrusion basic machine

Sreerag A

does anybody can help me making extrusion basic machine

I wanna make one too. Where are you and maybe I can swing by?

Please i have a relatively urgent question. Is the sheetpress capable of producing 2mm sheets?

mr.midas360

Please i have a relatively urgent question. Is the sheetpress capable of producing 2mm sheets?

We have done tests as little as 1.5mm but it's not as easy/quality as larger thicknesses

Hi everyone

,I am from Armenia ,

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May be anyone from my country ,or nearby , for example from Georgia ?

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So this is the plastic waste my company produces

8:11 PM

Any ideas what type it is and if it’s worth getting a shredder?

wabel

So this is the plastic waste my company produces

My uneducated guess is that this is HDPE. How many kilos daily do you reckon you are getting

Like about 4 or 5. It takes a little bit to fill that box up but I can get a lot more. Another company is taking it to the dump

I'm wondering if it's possible, with a consistent source of LDPE film to skip the pelletizing stage and go directly from shredding the film to extruding it into a repeatable beam shape. Possible?

Does anyone know how kg’s plasticity will take to make a 2”x4” by 8’ beam or a formula to use for beams?? Thank You!!

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I know I have read 1.5 kg for the brick

hello everyone, I've joined PP to learn more about DIY injection moulding. It's a great resource but I was wondering if there are any stats for hobbiest and small scale professional injection moulding equipment. Info like kWh/Kg energy efficiency & part production rate. Does 'economy-of-scale' info exist and can someone share it please. I would like to study the production cost curve v machine size, CAPEX, OPEX and all that important stuff. Thanks.

MadMat

hello everyone, I've joined PP to learn more about DIY injection moulding. It's a great resource but I was wondering if there are any stats for hobbiest and small scale professional injection moulding equipment. Info like kWh/Kg energy efficiency & part production rate. Does 'economy-of-scale' info exist and can someone share it please. I would like to study the production cost curve v machine size, CAPEX, OPEX and all that important stuff. Thanks.

@Fritz @easymoulds might know a good resource for this

hail

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do you guys know people who simply occupy land? (edited)

MadMat

hello everyone, I've joined PP to learn more about DIY injection moulding. It's a great resource but I was wondering if there are any stats for hobbiest and small scale professional injection moulding equipment. Info like kWh/Kg energy efficiency & part production rate. Does 'economy-of-scale' info exist and can someone share it please. I would like to study the production cost curve v machine size, CAPEX, OPEX and all that important stuff. Thanks.

Hi Mat- I never dived into the kwh/part. The kwh/kg rate is probably nowhere near the industrial standards. But this is a pretty logical result of small-scale /DIY injection moulding. The industry works with temperature controlled multi 10-100k € moulds which are optimized for the highest output rate possible. Together they go with multi 100k€ machines. So its quite an investment if we talk about it in relation to the startups idea of small scale injection moulding. Small scale injection moulding is not about to have the most energy efficient process, but to allow small businesses to get their ideas made and out in the world. -> To reduce the investment costs to the minimum, test the market, fail fast & cheap or suceed with an idea. Once they grew into the mid-large scale operation they can shift their focus towards the energy efficiency of the production. Most businesses in the PP universe are closely related to Design and therefore we don't need to do "hard" OPEX numbers because we do not directly compete with traditional industry (which would be pretty impossible anyhow). The idea for most product startups is to create additional value by outstanding design and UX to be able to compete in all areas. Hope that helps a bit from our perspective

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Hey guys are you still looking for ways to map the land? i made https://trakr.app (3D Car telemetry tracker) this could be used to track gps devices, on the land(put one on otis), you could collaboratively map the place pretty accurately, if you need any help lmk, this is open source: https://github.com/GREEB/trakr.app/

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Hey guys are you still looking for ways to map the land? i made https://trakr.app (3D Car telemetry tracker) this could be used to track gps devices, on the land(put one on otis), you could collaboratively map the place pretty accurately, if you need any help lmk, this is open source: https://github.com/GREEB/trakr.app/

We are currently testing mapping with drones. You can follow progress here: https://community.projectkamp.com/research/can-we-make-an-elevation-height-map-of-the-land Maybe after that we try otis

Hi everyone! I am looking for ways to recycle hospital waste such as cheap PVC plastics and sterile wraps (that are made of a layer of melt-blown polypropylene bonded on both surfaces with a layer of spun-bonded polypropylene). I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to go about this as I believe the precious plastic machines can not recycle PVC plastics and I am unsure about the sterile wraps. I would love any help and resources you are able to share! Thank you.

anikad

Hi everyone! I am looking for ways to recycle hospital waste such as cheap PVC plastics and sterile wraps (that are made of a layer of melt-blown polypropylene bonded on both surfaces with a layer of spun-bonded polypropylene). I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to go about this as I believe the precious plastic machines can not recycle PVC plastics and I am unsure about the sterile wraps. I would love any help and resources you are able to share! Thank you.

I watched a fellow on Youtube doing just that and extruding filament. I can check my history if you are interested.

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Hello friends. I am finally in a position to afford some machines and make my home plastic recycling dream a reality. I’m wondering if there’s someone in the US who might be able to help me find/ make these machines?

Hello how are yall

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anikad

Hi everyone! I am looking for ways to recycle hospital waste such as cheap PVC plastics and sterile wraps (that are made of a layer of melt-blown polypropylene bonded on both surfaces with a layer of spun-bonded polypropylene). I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to go about this as I believe the precious plastic machines can not recycle PVC plastics and I am unsure about the sterile wraps. I would love any help and resources you are able to share! Thank you.

Hi @anikad , we have a processing facility for PVC here in Australia. Currently being use to recycle blister packs (where your medicine comes in)

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Hello. Can someone send me the excell link to calculate weight and / or volume depending on the type of plastic?

ciao, devo fare i collegamenti del forno. per collegare le resistenze (cioé le parti riscaldanti) che filo devo usare? nei forni di casa ho busto che ci sono dei fili"siliconici" consigli?

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hello, I need to make the oven connections. to connect the resistors (ie the heating parts) which wire should I use? in the ovens at home I have found that there are "silicone" threads advice?

hello

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I just arrived here

same

I have stared some recycling

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or HDPE

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hello everyone

how are u

im good

11:45 PM

I just descovered this today

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looks very fun tbh

It is

Fritz @easymoulds

Hi Mat- I never dived into the kwh/part. The kwh/kg rate is probably nowhere near the industrial standards. But this is a pretty logical result of small-scale /DIY injection moulding. The industry works with temperature controlled multi 10-100k € moulds which are optimized for the highest output rate possible. Together they go with multi 100k€ machines. So its quite an investment if we talk about it in relation to the startups idea of small scale injection moulding. Small scale injection moulding is not about to have the most energy efficient process, but to allow small businesses to get their ideas made and out in the world. -> To reduce the investment costs to the minimum, test the market, fail fast & cheap or suceed with an idea. Once they grew into the mid-large scale operation they can shift their focus towards the energy efficiency of the production. Most businesses in the PP universe are closely related to Design and therefore we don't need to do "hard" OPEX numbers because we do not directly compete with traditional industry (which would be pretty impossible anyhow). The idea for most product startups is to create additional value by outstanding design and UX to be able to compete in all areas. Hope that helps a bit from our perspective

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hi Fritz, thanks for providing the feedback. I agree the PP focus is on the design flexibility and fast turnaround for small batches, and it's a bit like comparing apples & oranges, but I was wondering if there is a distinct 'knee-point' to the piece price and capital costs when looking along the spectrum of equipment scale. Are there machines that are the 'next size up' without getting into the 100k€ territory? I guess this is the region where outsourcing is done and the piece price reflects the economics.

I absolutely love the project! It always fills me with joy when I see a video notification!

hi everyone!

hello, i just joined and i was wondering after seeing the 1 year summury, do you guys want help? i would love to plan my next trip to be close to your place and help out for a couple of days

MadMat

hi Fritz, thanks for providing the feedback. I agree the PP focus is on the design flexibility and fast turnaround for small batches, and it's a bit like comparing apples & oranges, but I was wondering if there is a distinct 'knee-point' to the piece price and capital costs when looking along the spectrum of equipment scale. Are there machines that are the 'next size up' without getting into the 100k€ territory? I guess this is the region where outsourcing is done and the piece price reflects the economics.

I think thats a bit of an economic question of scale where I have no experience in yet. I assume thats the range of 10k-100kpcs - there wont be much reference within the PP world. The only options you have there either conduct research/interviews with professional machine manufacturers or find an experience lead of production within the polymer industry -> basically the people that make purchase decisions for new equipment. Propbably there is a lot "depends on" then. So whatever you research for it will be a long way I assume. There are lab-scale machines from ~20k€ and some smaller machines from around 30-40k€. The main steps up are: Manual machine without nozzle-engagement, with auto nozzle engagement, auto clamping the mould (manual part ejection), auto part-ejection, then with addons as -> fancy robot connection systems, actors in moulds, QC tracking, process tracking etc.

I want to make some friends here that have the same interest as me

Fritz @easymoulds

I think thats a bit of an economic question of scale where I have no experience in yet. I assume thats the range of 10k-100kpcs - there wont be much reference within the PP world. The only options you have there either conduct research/interviews with professional machine manufacturers or find an experience lead of production within the polymer industry -> basically the people that make purchase decisions for new equipment. Propbably there is a lot "depends on" then. So whatever you research for it will be a long way I assume. There are lab-scale machines from ~20k€ and some smaller machines from around 30-40k€. The main steps up are: Manual machine without nozzle-engagement, with auto nozzle engagement, auto clamping the mould (manual part ejection), auto part-ejection, then with addons as -> fancy robot connection systems, actors in moulds, QC tracking, process tracking etc.

I like your answer to that question

Alex_recycles and creates

I want to make some friends here that have the same interest as me

Hi RealShadow! Same for me!

want to be friends

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Hola

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Alguien conoce algun dispositivo para identificar los distintos plasticos?

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gracias

hi

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lol

hey guys, im working in a machineshop that machines parts mostly out of HDPE/LDPE, POM and PA for our customers. we "produce" about 2000-3000kg chips per month, i just discovered the community on youtube. my boss is trying to make something usable out of these chips for months now, i just send him some links. looking forward to ask some stupid questions. cheers.

Would it be worth it to break down PET to TPA and ethylene glycol and make petg/pctg?

Dlanm2u

Would it be worth it to break down PET to TPA and ethylene glycol and make petg/pctg?

You can just leave it at PET and make 3D filament from it

isn't it cumbersome to deal with as just pet?

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cuz it has to be really really really dry

Alex_recycles and creates

You can just leave it at PET and make 3D filament from it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene_terephthalate#Drying

Polyethylene terephthalate

Polyethylene terephthalate (or poly(ethylene terephthalate), PET, PETE, or the obsolete PETP or PET-P), is the most common thermoplastic polymer resin of the polyester family and is used in fibres for clothing, containers for liquids and foods, and thermoforming for manufacturing, and in combination with glass fibre for engineering resins.In 201...

2:18 AM

ik its wikipedia and whatnot but i remember a whole article on how picky pet is with drying

neither do i want to put a filament extruder next to my printer, i've got no space to feed it directly either

2:43 AM

and 5-6 hours of drying before a print-

Afonso

Hi @anikad , we have a processing facility for PVC here in Australia. Currently being use to recycle blister packs (where your medicine comes in)

Hi Alfonso, I would love to hear more about the process and overall logistics. Would love to connect!

NJ90210

I watched a fellow on Youtube doing just that and extruding filament. I can check my history if you are interested.

yes, totally interested!

anikad

yes, totally interested!

https://youtu.be/XRwdie6QDPY

Brother

Печать вещей из б/у медицинских масок Переработка медицинских масок...

anikad

Hi everyone! I am looking for ways to recycle hospital waste such as cheap PVC plastics and sterile wraps (that are made of a layer of melt-blown polypropylene bonded on both surfaces with a layer of spun-bonded polypropylene). I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to go about this as I believe the precious plastic machines can not recycle PVC plastics and I am unsure about the sterile wraps. I would love any help and resources you are able to share! Thank you.

You can recycle surgical masks cause they are made of PPE some people make furniture out of them

anikad

Hi everyone! I am looking for ways to recycle hospital waste such as cheap PVC plastics and sterile wraps (that are made of a layer of melt-blown polypropylene bonded on both surfaces with a layer of spun-bonded polypropylene). I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to go about this as I believe the precious plastic machines can not recycle PVC plastics and I am unsure about the sterile wraps. I would love any help and resources you are able to share! Thank you.

Their is a company in the UK that makes PPE pellets from face masks.

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Dlanm2u

ik its wikipedia and whatnot but i remember a whole article on how picky pet is with drying

The article talks about the manufacturing of PET

I am wondering do we have any kind of reliable method of selling all our products to the general public? The brazar kinda feels like a Precious plastics exclusive market place

Wild_Inventor

I am wondering do we have any kind of reliable method of selling all our products to the general public? The brazar kinda feels like a Precious plastics exclusive market place

They have market that sells machine parts and raw materials

Alex_recycles and creates

They have market that sells machine parts and raw materials

Isn't that just the brazar though?

Wild_Inventor

Isn't that just the brazar though?

Yeah but you can buy raw materials on etsy

Yeah but that's what I mean. The brazer sounds and feels like a market ONLY for other people making things out of the precious plastics methods

Wild_Inventor

Yeah but that's what I mean. The brazer sounds and feels like a market ONLY for other people making things out of the precious plastics methods

Brazed would be like if you want to buy a machine

Where is the Market where a person casually browsing the internet can see a picture of a well crafted chair made by a precious plastics business, buy it and have it in their house within a week or two? Like I recently seen a really cool stool made out of recycled plastic and wood on Instagram. If I wanted to by that how would I? Where would I go to buy it?

Wild_Inventor

Where is the Market where a person casually browsing the internet can see a picture of a well crafted chair made by a precious plastics business, buy it and have it in their house within a week or two? Like I recently seen a really cool stool made out of recycled plastic and wood on Instagram. If I wanted to by that how would I? Where would I go to buy it?

Precious plastic bazar also sells furniture. The web site is like eBay

Wild_Inventor

Where is the Market where a person casually browsing the internet can see a picture of a well crafted chair made by a precious plastics business, buy it and have it in their house within a week or two? Like I recently seen a really cool stool made out of recycled plastic and wood on Instagram. If I wanted to by that how would I? Where would I go to buy it?

https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/

Plastice to sell products, machines, and plastic. Empowering our recycling ecosystem around the world.

I am looking at it and it still feels like it's made for precious plastics people. Like would you he casual person that knows nothing about precious plastics know why or when the purpose is for being able to select products based on which plastic they are made out of? How many would even recognize the plastic abriviatons that are used? Why is it auto set to be in Euros? I thought some sights are about to auto translate the price units depending on where it being accessed from? The presentation of the products are reasonable though. A kinda decent image of them, a title, and their price. Does it really matter to show where it came from through?

9:06 PM

How are the stock of products managed as well? Are items listed there commonly in stock? Or are the made on demand and thus take much longer to ship out than others? A member of precious plastics would definitely appreciate and respect that time needed to make things on demand. But a regular person that's never heard of precious plastics? They probably want it to them as fast as none Amazon prime people get online ordered good.

Wild_Inventor

I am looking at it and it still feels like it's made for precious plastics people. Like would you he casual person that knows nothing about precious plastics know why or when the purpose is for being able to select products based on which plastic they are made out of? How many would even recognize the plastic abriviatons that are used? Why is it auto set to be in Euros? I thought some sights are about to auto translate the price units depending on where it being accessed from? The presentation of the products are reasonable though. A kinda decent image of them, a title, and their price. Does it really matter to show where it came from through?

Totally agree with your points . And the Bazar data proves it. Very few recycled plastic products sold there. We really need a segmented placed to sell these products to the general public

Can this be another aspect or project for precious plastics to work with to correct??

9:14 PM

As I thought, and agree with @Joseph we need a market place to really reach out to the public. One that normal people can find accessable. I am thinking a drop shipping method might work best with Precious plastics decentralized nature. We have one website that is basically a catalogue for everything that is made by precious plastics workshops that is intended for everyday normal live use. The shopper will buy it, and then the managers of the site will transfer the information over to the small shop that will then make and ship it out to the person that first placed the order.

9:15 PM

The hardest part of this would be setting reasonable wait times within the buying sight. And working with the small businesses to make sure orders are filled within that time

9:17 PM

Another method would be to do it in a fulfillment method. Someone managing the store website that only has precious plastics items for everyday use listed on it would buy in bulk a very large stock of everything from various small shops and then hold it in a given wearhouse until am order is placed on the site and at that point the order is then shipped off front he wearhouse to the customer

Joseph

Totally agree with your points . And the Bazar data proves it. Very few recycled plastic products sold there. We really need a segmented placed to sell these products to the general public

Etsy has some markets that sell recycled raw materials and products

Joseph

Totally agree with your points . And the Bazar data proves it. Very few recycled plastic products sold there. We really need a segmented placed to sell these products to the general public

I hope to be able to help soon on this.

Is there a group in here that would like to work together to get something set up properly?? As Shadow knight has mentioned Etsy night be able to help us out as a selling platform to set up shop

Wild_Inventor

As I thought, and agree with @Joseph we need a market place to really reach out to the public. One that normal people can find accessable. I am thinking a drop shipping method might work best with Precious plastics decentralized nature. We have one website that is basically a catalogue for everything that is made by precious plastics workshops that is intended for everyday normal live use. The shopper will buy it, and then the managers of the site will transfer the information over to the small shop that will then make and ship it out to the person that first placed the order.

Drop shipping would be perfect I think

Wild_Inventor

Is there a group in here that would like to work together to get something set up properly?? As Shadow knight has mentioned Etsy night be able to help us out as a selling platform to set up shop

I think it's own site / brand on a Shopify site would be best

Joseph

I think it's own site / brand on a Shopify site would be best

I hear Shopify has a decent drop shipping integration for it. So that would be good

Hello one army, my name is Aala, I am a new member in this lovely community

2:21 PM

I am making HDPE plastic panels for a school project, and I am looking for a sheet forming machine to use for a limited amount of time. Does anyone have an idea where to find it??

Has anyone tried building the sheet press machine, and is London now?

Aala

Has anyone tried building the sheet press machine, and is London now?

hey @Aala check out https://community.preciousplastic.com/map#precious-plastic-staffordshire- they are in the UK and are a sheetpress workspace

Aala

I am making HDPE plastic panels for a school project, and I am looking for a sheet forming machine to use for a limited amount of time. Does anyone have an idea where to find it??

you can make a wooden with a wooden bottom and lay the molten plastic on it and put pressure on the top and wait for it to cool

Hugh

hey @Aala check out https://community.preciousplastic.com/map#precious-plastic-staffordshire- they are in the UK and are a sheetpress workspace

Thank you so much

Alex_recycles and creates

you can make a wooden with a wooden bottom and lay the molten plastic on it and put pressure on the top and wait for it to cool

Thank you

hey guys, just got to know your project, not really sure what's specifically about, but i do like the idea a lot! i found tons of valuable material to study, however it would be really beneficial to learn a bit more about the economy part. is it somewhere uploaded or is it confidential? thanks in advance!

Skudurėlis

hey guys, just got to know your project, not really sure what's specifically about, but i do like the idea a lot! i found tons of valuable material to study, however it would be really beneficial to learn a bit more about the economy part. is it somewhere uploaded or is it confidential? thanks in advance!

As far as I know, there really isn't much made about the economy side if things for this. There is a quick three video series about how to do the business aspects of a precious plastics shop. Other than that there isn't much else

hellooooooo, i just watched project kamp's one year summary video and i must say that's such a beautiful project, hope it keeps on giving and thriving.

i was trying to retrive plans on you other bigger building so i could try my skills at a idea ... oh and hi wish you would have left in april 18th video what happen to you when you fell lol

hi to all....all the channel disappear....whats happened??...what i should do to take them back?

8:29 AM

I dont have permission to message anyone or anywhere...why?

Tao

hi to all....all the channel disappear....whats happened??...what i should do to take them back?

go to #🖐start-here and emoji react the project you're interested in. You'll then unlock REGIONS channels. Have fun

8:59 AM

Looking forward to see you all today to discover the new Extruder Pro 1.2

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️ https://discord.gg/duc7SbDV?event=968169167712845885 (edited)

Hi, I on touch with a friend which is specialised in robot programming, and I would like to know more about the robotic sorting project (https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/research/robotics). the channels mentioned in that page send me to the #deleted-channel channel and there is nothinhg to see. How can I get some more infos?

I would like to start an online shop that features and sells household products made by precious plastic businesses. It would use a drop shipping approach so for this to work I would need a few business partners I can list products from. Given products should be ones that don't come with logos from the customer. The product must be reasonable easy to make that way they can be shipped out in a timely manor. Should be able to ship to most places globally. Mainly the United States as that's where initial market will be. Please DM me if you're interested.

Greetings,

7:21 PM

I downloaded the starter package for building equipment. The plans have a link for the video, but the link just takes me to the homepage of precious plastics. Can someone tell me where the videos of how to build equipment?

BobA

I downloaded the starter package for building equipment. The plans have a link for the video, but the link just takes me to the homepage of precious plastics. Can someone tell me where the videos of how to build equipment?

community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build

Does anyone know how to get in contact with these precious plastics business outside of the brazar? alumoulds BackBO - Circular Economy Hub Upcycler Esfèrica Johannplasto Plastically Théla Carbon Fusion SaveUsFromPlastics HI JAC Defy Design Treec Footwear Plastic Guys Zero P Zero Plastics Australia Brothers Make RecoSolution Lucie Lauv Precious Plastic Santa Maria Kitchcompagnie Inspired Plastics Precious Plastic Vienna

Pleasant good day. Thank you for having me here.

I hope you are having a good day as well

All is great, Thank you.

11:14 PM

I have just started watching the series on youtube (subscribed and liked) and have joined in on the website.

11:19 PM

Who here is the lead for "Project Kamp". I would love to share some things we too are doing.

You're welcome and same, their YouTube channel is what got me started on this journey. Hmm I believe the project camp has a separate section of the server. Under the #🖐start-here channel you should find a set of emojis to click each ken gives you general access to the 6 difference major categories of projects. There is one emoji specifically for the project kamp set you should click

thank you

You're welcome

Hey there anybody... I'm new here and just wanted to join to share an idea for covering up the highway sounds. Not sure if this is the right place to share but I thought maybe someone could get them the idea if they think it's a good one. I've been watching the youtube videos with my family and we think it's really funny that the highway sounds only seem to bother Dave, but we also thought of an idea to help him out. Wind chimes. I think it's a cheap and easy solution, it can be made with recycled stuff too, and can make really beautiful sounds. Anyways, I hope someone sees this who can help them out. Good luck everyone!

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GM everyone!

Mattia

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Damn beautiful morning to wake up too

2:33 PM

May I have access to the Bazar-sellers channel?

Wild_Inventor

May I have access to the Bazar-sellers channel?

Hey! Do you already sell on the Bazar? For the time being I think it is reserved for sellers.. @Kat is managing the channel

Mattia

Hey! Do you already sell on the Bazar? For the time being I think it is reserved for sellers.. @Kat is managing the channel

I do not, but I would like to work with the brazar team to develop a second shop made to reach customers that are unaware of PP and are just looking for a casual online shopping experience. The second shop would only carry the products that can be used in every day life form all the small PP businesses. Things like raw materials, plain sheets, machines, and molds would not be listed there. Search features would be adjusted to meet the needs of casual buyers. Such as price and caragory such as fashion, furniture, toys, etc. I feel this is something that is greatly needed to connect the average person to us and in the process promote and offer more sales to the small business of PP

Wild_Inventor

I do not, but I would like to work with the brazar team to develop a second shop made to reach customers that are unaware of PP and are just looking for a casual online shopping experience. The second shop would only carry the products that can be used in every day life form all the small PP businesses. Things like raw materials, plain sheets, machines, and molds would not be listed there. Search features would be adjusted to meet the needs of casual buyers. Such as price and caragory such as fashion, furniture, toys, etc. I feel this is something that is greatly needed to connect the average person to us and in the process promote and offer more sales to the small business of PP

Join #archived-bazar-dev ! Not sure we are ready for this now but definitely would like to have a dedicated product place for Precious Plastic at some point (edited)

Joseph

Join #archived-bazar-dev ! Not sure we are ready for this now but definitely would like to have a dedicated product place for Precious Plastic at some point (edited)

I checked and there is over 106 products that fall under the catagories of home and decor that do ship to the US listed in the brazar currently. That is enough to open up a reason sized online shop. It's because of this abundance that I felt this was needed. I would be glad to join the Bazar-dev to work on this further

well im done with

5:00 AM

finals

5:00 AM

now I can do more recycling

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Could you share your research on the VOCs. I'm also trying to figure out extraction and I'd love to know what I'm actually dealing with.. Also read your idea of the wormery. I'm really keen to design and produce

Zac PP Richmond-Christchurch-NZ

Could you share your research on the VOCs. I'm also trying to figure out extraction and I'd love to know what I'm actually dealing with.. Also read your idea of the wormery. I'm really keen to design and produce

here is a quite complete document on VOCs, but sorry, it's in french, hope you can google translate most of it; heads up to Lise & Enzo from "M. & Mme Recyclage" :) https://m-mme-recyclage.com/assets/filtration-des-gaz-recyclage-plastique_rapport_v4.pdf

Hello guys I am making a slight variation of an extrusion machine and I would like to ask if anyone knows 1. Are there band/nozzle heaters in Europe for around 18 mm pipes 2.what is a good insulation material to wrap around my heated pipe and it will work without producing harmful fumes when heated up to 350 Celsius If you are in Europe plz tell an where did you find a supplier for these

Hello i want a start precious plastic in România what advice do you have

why is there no machine shop channel any more?

Timberstar

why is there no machine shop channel any more?

We just changed to #archived-machines

Hello everyone, I have been watching @Project Kamp on YouTube. I am really amazed by the development and continuation. One thing I was curious about is how do you manage to connect internet in such a rural environment? I saw in one of the video’s you were using the internet and I was surprised. Please if you can explain, thanks

Joseph

We just changed to #archived-machines

i don't see it

Timberstar

i don't see it

First go to the #👋start-here channel and select

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Hellooo

from the #updates room - the updated posted on 5/5/2022, the link does not work: "The Extruder PRO Model 1.2 adds additional safety requirements (European standards) and is easily disassembled. Check out the documentation here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/extpro---12 " (edited)

https://youtu.be/xggBxiO08C8

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

QuakerOates

from the #updates room - the updated posted on 5/5/2022, the link does not work: "The Extruder PRO Model 1.2 adds additional safety requirements (European standards) and is easily disassembled. Check out the documentation here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/extpro---12 " (edited)

weird, works in Firefox, but not in chrome for some reason.. (edited)

georgeP

Hello guys I am making a slight variation of an extrusion machine and I would like to ask if anyone knows 1. Are there band/nozzle heaters in Europe for around 18 mm pipes 2.what is a good insulation material to wrap around my heated pipe and it will work without producing harmful fumes when heated up to 350 Celsius If you are in Europe plz tell an where did you find a supplier for these

rock wool for the insulation. Common in big box building supply stores

Can I put my tiny house in your land?

Hello

Hi. Want to build at terrace og recycled plastic beams. Anyone know if they are strong enough

plasticfaroes

Hi. Want to build at terrace og recycled plastic beams. Anyone know if they are strong enough

yes 100%

strength is not an issue for recycled plastic, more UV degradation.. check these folks

https://www.instagram.com/plasticar.arq/ btw this convo might be better suited for #archived-products-and-moulds

Hi everyone, looking for ways of sterilizing some types of plastics such as polypropylene. I have been looking into the autoclaving process, however, curious to know if others have any ideas on alternative ways of sterilization depending on the type of plastic for sure. Look forward to hearing others thoughts.

anikad

Hi everyone, looking for ways of sterilizing some types of plastics such as polypropylene. I have been looking into the autoclaving process, however, curious to know if others have any ideas on alternative ways of sterilization depending on the type of plastic for sure. Look forward to hearing others thoughts.

Hi @anikad , this conversation great for #archived-plastic

Hi guys. I am applying for a start-up in Romania for plastic recycling. I'm budgeting most of the machines that I can buy from Precious Plastic bazar. However, I need to make some estimates in the business plan. Any guidance regarding how can I approximate how much plastic I can reuse from a makers community (around 50-60 people which work in that community on a daily basis). Do you have any information where can I start this kind of approximation? (edited)

@tsiour.eth#1145 hiii, could you please share with me the plan of extraction. I don't know how can I do system filtration

Hi guys its really nice to join

Hi to everyone. I want to know if there is another way for making sunglasses instead of plastic inyection and 3D printing.

anyone else having trouble opening the precious plastics how to pages? (never mind apparently somethings wrong with my chrome going incognito fixes it though) (edited)

Ignaciosg

Hi to everyone. I want to know if there is another way for making sunglasses instead of plastic inyection and 3D printing.

Me Too!

@Ignaciosg would have more waist but could make plastic sheets and cnc it/handcut them

hey

Hello, need help with the plastic recycling business plan template.

Hello everyone! talked to Joseph from Precious plastic yesterday, he said the petbot is the most viewed product and the cheapest entry into plastic recycling at the market. We are looking for a dealer in each country to promote it to recyclers around the world. Best way is to ship around twenty - thirty units at once

12:34 PM

Компания Новатек

PETBOT (free PET fillament)

12:35 PM

https://youtu.be/vgs3qXJAyZA

Cat3D

Petbot Unboxing & Assembly

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I was hoping to get into 3D printing but the extruder looks like such a chunky machine for my little space. I'd love to get my hands on this!

Hi. Hope this message finds you well. I’ve been trying to figure out wether LLDPE is one of the plastics one can recycle. There’s tons of it that’s discarded at wholesalers per day(used to wrap trolleys and pallets). There’s a lot of information on LDPE information but not on LLDPE.

Roman Nesk

Hello everyone! talked to Joseph from Precious plastic yesterday, he said the petbot is the most viewed product and the cheapest entry into plastic recycling at the market. We are looking for a dealer in each country to promote it to recyclers around the world. Best way is to ship around twenty - thirty units at once

hey guys! maybe #archived-talent-pool could serve you better

I am wondering for those making products out of recycled plastic how good are your sales? How far reaching are they?

Nick - PP France

here is a quite complete document on VOCs, but sorry, it's in french, hope you can google translate most of it; heads up to Lise & Enzo from "M. & Mme Recyclage" :) https://m-mme-recyclage.com/assets/filtration-des-gaz-recyclage-plastique_rapport_v4.pdf

haha. I'll pass it on to some french friends for a translation. you dont know of any english resources? VOCs and extraction doesn't seem to be talked about that much but defintiely doesn't smell good for the brain..

Aldothegreen85

The problem most recycle firms have is the waste is light but the size is bulky ill show you later how im figuring out collection loads reckon i can build a plastic load of 10kg or more just through packing the waste properly and sorting it out as we collect. could be a route you and other workers use to get to the workshop and you collect everyday on route to the workshop. The 3 plastics im aiming for is 2,4 and 5 all comapatible on the pp machines without serious investment in extraction for vocs (simple extraction is adequet from my research as these are low voc plastics as long as they arent burned)

Hey. So the VOCs of these plastics are minimal enough that simply removing them from the work space is adequite? No environmental concerns?

what happened to the showcase, and machine builder threads?

5:59 AM

working on our biggest extrusion machine yet. 30mm x 1250mm extrusion screw, 3200 watts heat, 3hp 3 phase mitsubishi motor with a Delta inverter. Should be in operation by tomorrow. We have a plastic beam order for nearly a ton of plastic to fill. Biggest single order by weight yet.

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Butte (PP Philippines)

working on our biggest extrusion machine yet. 30mm x 1250mm extrusion screw, 3200 watts heat, 3hp 3 phase mitsubishi motor with a Delta inverter. Should be in operation by tomorrow. We have a plastic beam order for nearly a ton of plastic to fill. Biggest single order by weight yet.

Make sure to keep us posted in #archived-machines or #archived-products-and-moulds

Is that possible to get shredder pro deisign please

TareZata

Is that possible to get shredder pro deisign please

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-a-shredder-workspace

Thankyou Mattia

Sir i have question regarding the which pid controller model you used in injection molding using the bandheater

Hi! I am interested in the recycled plastic brick project. I found a laser cut file on the website for moulding I would like to know if there is a 3D file of the brick so I can 3D print it as a prototype?

Hi

Hi!

#just-chatting Hi. Hope this message finds you well. I’ve been trying to figure out wether LLDPE is one of the plastics one can recycle. There’s tons of it that’s discarded at wholesalers per day(used to wrap trolleys and pallets). There’s a lot of information on LDPE information but not on LLDPE.

boitumelo ZA soweto

#just-chatting Hi. Hope this message finds you well. I’ve been trying to figure out wether LLDPE is one of the plastics one can recycle. There’s tons of it that’s discarded at wholesalers per day(used to wrap trolleys and pallets). There’s a lot of information on LDPE information but not on LLDPE.

Hey there ! i've mainly worked with LLDPE (pallet wrapping) and the recycling of it just feels like a blessing !!!! you can check out some of the stuff i made on instagram https://www.instagram.com/recycle_et_moi/ don't hesitate to reach out to me in private message if you want more specifics on LLDPE!

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Hey folks, I've picked up a Felfil filament extruder has anyone else got experience with this machine?

Do the Bazar provide a shipping cost for more items? I means if someone purchases more them one type of product?

Hi, where can i leave a small feedback regarding a typo on the site?

Hi @oslobystorm ! Would be great on feedback.preciousplastic.com

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Do we have the same name @Joseph ?

Joseph to joseph

Is ur username Joseph in Portuguese

@Joseph

Hi there - I wondered whether anyone here as advice on setting up a kitchen in terms of fat traps and alternatives to a freezer. Any help at all would be so appreciated! thank you

I was watching the precious plastic videos and noticed one thing and a machine that turned filament into pellets. I cannot find any documentation or information about it. Is it an ongoing project? It can be seen here: https://youtu.be/76AFNIxYjUE?t=107

Precious Plastic - at work

Hello guys, i have a question.. What are some products that you guys have made and had succes with(with injection method) ? I dont really like the moulds that are for sale at the moment. Also does someone have a good adress for making quality moulds? What are good prices for moulds?

I want to make lacrosse stick heads but I doubt I will ever have a good enough home setup for that kind of product. I mainly just make stools and tables by making sheets with my 15x15 sheet press and my aluminum forge

I cant speak

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I can hear you

5:00 PM

okay

Nick - PP France

Hey there ! i've mainly worked with LLDPE (pallet wrapping) and the recycling of it just feels like a blessing !!!! you can check out some of the stuff i made on instagram https://www.instagram.com/recycle_et_moi/ don't hesitate to reach out to me in private message if you want more specifics on LLDPE!

Did you start with something like clean wrapping or did you also find a way to clean it? Just asking, I'm a lathe machinist and at job we make a lot of waste of it, but in our case is frequently dirt, from various type of oils (like corrosion protection ones, quenching oils etc) and metallic chips... I was wondering how to clean it, but I think it is a messy task. If I shred it before cleaning I can damage the shredder with metal parts, and cleaning it before shredding is something like impossible.

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

Did you start with something like clean wrapping or did you also find a way to clean it? Just asking, I'm a lathe machinist and at job we make a lot of waste of it, but in our case is frequently dirt, from various type of oils (like corrosion protection ones, quenching oils etc) and metallic chips... I was wondering how to clean it, but I think it is a messy task. If I shred it before cleaning I can damage the shredder with metal parts, and cleaning it before shredding is something like impossible.

yeah as my business consisted of renting material for events (plates, glasses, tables chairs etc...) we would do a lot of deliveries using pallets; i had asked my staff to be careful when unwrapping and put it directly in a specific location at the compagny. Therefore i indeed only worked with "clean" plastic. What i noticed though, is that the "dirtyness" of it can sort of be camouflaged by colouring it (i personnally used approx 1-2% of mass of coloured bottle caps and blended it into the LLDPE -manually-) "don't mix the different plastic types" will you say; indeed i agree, but my way of thinking on my process is the following : PE & PP are from the polyolefin family, and in that sens have similar properties. My coloring technique consists of stealing the coloring additives from bottle caps and spread them into the LLDPE. (edited)

8:18 PM

@Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna concerning the shredding; i was also too afraid to put my LLDPE pallet wrapping in the shredder, afraid it would slide between the blades... So i just processed it by : -put to melt in teflon coated dish in oven -add a bit of color if needed (let it melt, then mix manually) -preheat a bit the mould -put the molten plastic into mould out of the oven -put in compression system -compress

LDPE/LLDPE is similar to HDPE, so I think it isn't a big problem, PP is something more different and from what I see (never tested first hand) it doesn't weld together very well.

8:20 PM

However my issue remains, my source of wrapping film is dirty...I think I just leave it to the factory bin.

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

LDPE/LLDPE is similar to HDPE, so I think it isn't a big problem, PP is something more different and from what I see (never tested first hand) it doesn't weld together very well.

yeah, let me insist on the ratios though; it would be at worst 1-2% PE or PP from the bottle caps, fully blended into the 98-99%rest of LLDPE, so blending was never an issue (as per my experiments)

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

However my issue remains, my source of wrapping film is dirty...I think I just leave it to the factory bin.

if you manage to educate your collegues (suppliers/clients) which would lead into a usuable non dirty pallet wrap, i think it's worth the shot :)

8:23 PM

the best feeling i've had with pallet wrap is that there are no/very few additives in the plastic; and therefore you are only "playing" with the polymers properties, getting rid of all the unknown variables linked to additives in most of the plastic products we can find

On the shredding side, I made a different shredder, I made the rotary blades out from a solid bar of quench hardened steel (39NiCrMo3), with the CNC lathe, at job. After machining I have them nitrided, to achieve a >60HRC hardness, to avoid wear. Two axis shredder with a total blade lenght of 256mm. Blades have 0.03mm play between eachoter, so they shred the film without issue, even during the first tests, with a 300W motor. At now I can shred thick and tough plastic, like the HDPE plastic crate for glass returnable beer/water bottles, with a 1.5KW motor with a 90:1 gearbox, driven by a 230V VFD, set to stop the machine when the rated current for the motor is exceeded. So, it is working at a very low load. When I finish it (at now I haven't enough spare time to do it) I think I can try to sell on the bazar. Someone said me it is an overkill machine, but if precision allow us to shred even thin plastic foil, saving also a lot of energy, wasted as heat on the "official" shredders due to the rubbing of the plastic between the blades, I think it is a good project.

Nick - PP France

the best feeling i've had with pallet wrap is that there are no/very few additives in the plastic; and therefore you are only "playing" with the polymers properties, getting rid of all the unknown variables linked to additives in most of the plastic products we can find

Yes, it isn't a big problem. And we have to remember also that, at the moment, no one of our products can be recycled in the "official" way. So, even if we made something with mixed plastic, if/when the product is thrown into the plastic bin, it will end up in an incinerator or landfill.

8:41 PM

At now I just started to play with plastics, I made a compression molding setup (you can find it at the start of the mold channel), and with those dimensions I can't find problems due to the different additives in the plastic. I used HDPE from injection and blow molding together, and the same for PP, with the addition of vacuum thermo-formed PP vegetable trays.

Hey, anyone know of a shared workshop space with machines (London, UK)? (edited)

Nick - PP France

@Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna concerning the shredding; i was also too afraid to put my LLDPE pallet wrapping in the shredder, afraid it would slide between the blades... So i just processed it by : -put to melt in teflon coated dish in oven -add a bit of color if needed (let it melt, then mix manually) -preheat a bit the mould -put the molten plastic into mould out of the oven -put in compression system -compress

Was your mould cold or heated and what distance from the oven was it?

Hey guys, does anyone know anything about planning permission in Portugal on container homes, cob houses or earthships?

Is there any one here that have try the shredder machine with the LDEP plastic bags, or have some advises in this topic ? Thank you in advance

Mido

Is there any one here that have try the shredder machine with the LDEP plastic bags, or have some advises in this topic ? Thank you in advance

Plastic bags get tangled within the blades of most shredder machines and causes it to stop working. it's such a problem that not even start run mass recycling centers recycle plastic shipping bags despite them being made out of one of the few plastics that works best with general recycling. An entire new machine that is specialized in shredding plastic shopping bags needs to be made. We know they can be cut if they are held taught and cut with scissors so a machine that can replicate that motion thousands of times over within a compact and small spaces at rapid speeds is what is needed there

Maybe using a heat gun to shrink them first can make them easier to process afterwards? They shrink a lot and very easily

L.Luster

Maybe using a heat gun to shrink them first can make them easier to process afterwards? They shrink a lot and very easily

Very good idea

L.Luster

Maybe using a heat gun to shrink them first can make them easier to process afterwards? They shrink a lot and very easily

The main issue with that is tie degradation of the plastic. The more times you heat and cool it the more you damage and degrading the plastic. I know some have found ways to use items such as waffle irons to melt a stack of bag, just a little and then knead them as more bag, melt and repeat. But all those iterative meltings causes higher rates of degradation as well as longer exposure to plastic fumes. While those are reasonable ways to work with plastic bags. One must really take into consideration the health hazards and the change in the quality of the product they wish to make

Fair enough, but if the alternative its not being able to process it, it may be worth a shot with adequate safety procedures

I agree there, I'm just saying to keep in mind what needs to be done for safety if processing and product. Personally I feel precious plastics community should look into designing a machine capable of shredding plastic bags

I hand it plastic bags into strips and then weave them and fuse them to make outdoor seat cushions

11:12 PM

My project with bags this summer is to do that with enough bags where I can make a tarp to cover my motorcycle

Mido

Is there any one here that have try the shredder machine with the LDEP plastic bags, or have some advises in this topic ? Thank you in advance

I was able to put plastic bags directly into my extrusion machine. If you extrude it into filament or similar, you can then shred it much easier.

2:21 AM

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2:21 AM

This is HDPE but LDPE would be a little similar

This is actually really cool, did you have to worry about your drive screw getting jammed though??

It actually managed to work without jamming. My other issue was that it's very difficult to have dry plastic bags. Where I live, it's easy to collect plastic bags but they're always used for street food and often have some residue or liquid mixed in. If you don't have clean plastic bags and try to extrude, you're going to make a smelly mess and the extruded plastic will have lots of bubbles in it due to water vapor (liquid turns to gas and expands)

or use a heat press or other stuff to melt a few layers of plastic bags together and then shredding it should also work I assume (haven't tried yet)

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

or use a heat press or other stuff to melt a few layers of plastic bags together and then shredding it should also work I assume (haven't tried yet)

I believe this works too

@DataWorm (PP Berlin) yes that definitely works. Just like a few of the other options. I am just wondering if there's a way to do it without the constant and repetitive reheating of the plastic

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

It actually managed to work without jamming. My other issue was that it's very difficult to have dry plastic bags. Where I live, it's easy to collect plastic bags but they're always used for street food and often have some residue or liquid mixed in. If you don't have clean plastic bags and try to extrude, you're going to make a smelly mess and the extruded plastic will have lots of bubbles in it due to water vapor (liquid turns to gas and expands)

Perhaps wash then and then let them air dry on a clothesline for a day or two?

Wild_Inventor

Perhaps wash then and then let them air dry on a clothesline for a day or two?

yeah that might do the trick. (un)fortunately there's plenty of other plastic i can work with that's much easier to clean and work with so LDPE bags aren't high on my list of plastics i recycle.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

yeah that might do the trick. (un)fortunately there's plenty of other plastic i can work with that's much easier to clean and work with so LDPE bags aren't high on my list of plastics i recycle.

That is unfortunate for the local environment but excellent for you. May I ask, what type of items do you make and sell from your shop?

3:17 AM

Also just the fact that the extrusion machine can take raw plastic bags straight A's their are clean is actually a game changer for me and my uni recycling center. Is there any special modifications to your extension machine or is it the standard one with the lead screws?

Wild_Inventor

Also just the fact that the extrusion machine can take raw plastic bags straight A's their are clean is actually a game changer for me and my uni recycling center. Is there any special modifications to your extension machine or is it the standard one with the lead screws?

If i recall correctly, the machine i used for extruding LDPE bags was the v3 extrusion machine without the updated compression screw. This means the extrusion screw had no zones and was homogenous.

3:23 AM

Lately i've been selling lots of sheets and coasters. Sometimes i get orders for custom shapes with the sheets. Feel free to have a look at my IG to see what I have made. There's one for what's going on in my workspace and another that's more tidy that shows products we make and sell. http://www.instagram.com/preciousplasticciledug http://www.instagram.com/ppciledugstore (edited)

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Lately i've been selling lots of sheets and coasters. Sometimes i get orders for custom shapes with the sheets. Feel free to have a look at my IG to see what I have made. There's one for what's going on in my workspace and another that's more tidy that shows products we make and sell. http://www.instagram.com/preciousplasticciledug http://www.instagram.com/ppciledugstore (edited)

Both of these Instagrams are impressive. I love the display of the products on the shop specific one. If you don't mind, could we switch over to dms to discuss your sales?

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Hi All, did you close the local plastic community channels ? We could not find it here. thank you

Hello everyone, I hope you had a good start into the new week. For our interior design studio in Dubai we are looking for manufacturers / suppliers from Africa or India who can supply us with recycled plastic panels. If you feel addressed or know a company, please share it with me. Thank you and have a nice week!

Hello everyone, I am discovering your community. Super coold and positive. I was browsing the bazar and had a something specific in mind. Do you know of any sellers that take customs order? Thanks and apologies if this is not the right channel for the question.

Remiams

Hello everyone, I am discovering your community. Super coold and positive. I was browsing the bazar and had a something specific in mind. Do you know of any sellers that take customs order? Thanks and apologies if this is not the right channel for the question.

Some of the seller. Contact with them in the bazar mail

hey all. How do I add the #business channel to my discord?

Remiams

Hello everyone, I am discovering your community. Super coold and positive. I was browsing the bazar and had a something specific in mind. Do you know of any sellers that take customs order? Thanks and apologies if this is not the right channel for the question.

Is that the site you can buy the machines at?

I love the sense of community in the youtube comments and the general vibe of the project kamp channel, really cool to see people coming together and sharing their knowledge from all over the world and all industries

wait hold up

6:04 PM

ximi

6:04 PM

fancy seeing you here

lucas!

ximi

Hello

7:02 PM

Who are you and where do you know me from

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7:06 PM

I want to say wbg but im probably wrong

Ximicacan

Who are you and where do you know me from

(edited)

From the ateff server lmao

lucas!

From the ateff server lmao

Oh Hi

howre you

Tired

8:37 PM

Deep in the permaculture rabbithole

Nice Loving how they discover old traces of the past (edited)

Excited for the 2 ruins being lived in again

hi i was just wondering what peoples thoughts on fertiliser are?

Deleted User

hi i was just wondering what peoples thoughts on fertiliser are?

Use responsibly (do your best to prevent runoff) and in moderation?

4:39 AM

Idk

4:39 AM

Better to be a good custodian to your soil by growing enriching plants and using compost

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4:39 AM

But it has its place

Yo. I'm surprised that no help has come for ruins? Will you try to fix on your own, like 2 guys?

10:07 AM

I would love to come to help, im jack of all trades including ex military. But vegan food turns me off

Hello guys, I am in the search for a second hand sheetpress machine in UK. I want to rent it for a month

12:54 PM

I want to use it to make recycled HDPE panels

There is Participatory City Foundation in London that has one, but I don't know if they rent it. Also note that HDPE is not the easiest one for panels, as it tend to be more sticky to mould than other plastics. Is there any reason to use this instead of PP for example ?

Hi , is Dave from project Kamp on discord?

Nobuu

Hi , is Dave from project Kamp on discord?

Read around a bit. You might find him

Hi guys, I started a STEM club at school and wanted to do a part for the environment (especially towards recycling plastic) with STEM. I would like to get advise on how I can do this and where to start with.

Hey everyone, how is everyone today? Gotta love them Project Kamp videos huh?

I am interested in Project Kamp and maybe helping out if I can. I love the idea of living off the grid and like watching them work out challenges and just their lives there.

JackRockwell

I am interested in Project Kamp and maybe helping out if I can. I love the idea of living off the grid and like watching them work out challenges and just their lives there.

Have a look at the website support page. There's a few ways you can support the project. https://projectkamp.com/support.html

Support Project Kamp

Support os with a donation, sponsor a project or come and help us out on the land. You can see all the tasks on support.projectkamp.com

Thanks

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3:06 PM

Yea, i've been there but I was hoping to reach out here and see about possibly visiting

Ah, I'm not sure if they're accepting visitors. I think the best way to visit is to volunteer. But i'm not part of this project, just watching and living vicariously....it looks amazing and rewarding.

Thanks Ben, yea I have been loving the videos and would love to go out there and work and learn. Hopefully be able to give them something in return, other than just labor. But I will reach out on the website. I'd really like to learn more.

Hi everyone! I'm Michael studying Architecture in TU Delft in the Netherlands. I'm now designing a facade system made of mixed plastics and recycled HDPE/PP. I am looking for a workshop/ factory for prototyping. Also planning to scale it up and apply for the Dutch Design Week 2022. Here is the video showing my vision. Are there any one would like to support this idea?

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Michael

Hi everyone! I'm Michael studying Architecture in TU Delft in the Netherlands. I'm now designing a facade system made of mixed plastics and recycled HDPE/PP. I am looking for a workshop/ factory for prototyping. Also planning to scale it up and apply for the Dutch Design Week 2022. Here is the video showing my vision. Are there any one would like to support this idea?

This is really really interesting and I have a project for a campus greenhouse my new campus recycling center is going to make and this would be perfect for the interior design!!!!! I am from the US but I would love a chance to work with you and get this actually working

Wild_Inventor

This is really really interesting and I have a project for a campus greenhouse my new campus recycling center is going to make and this would be perfect for the interior design!!!!! I am from the US but I would love a chance to work with you and get this actually working

Thank you Arthur! For this stage, I'm looking for a local manufactory to make prototypes. But I am also planning to bring it to the market in the future, and therefore it is possible for collaboration in the later stage!

Michael

Thank you Arthur! For this stage, I'm looking for a local manufactory to make prototypes. But I am also planning to bring it to the market in the future, and therefore it is possible for collaboration in the later stage!

Very well thank you for your consideration

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4:53 PM

I posted this yesterday, but I can not find the post now. Was it deleted? Does anybody have experience with this shredder?

no sorry

Hey yall. I've started a small community of people who are picking up litter in the northeastern United states. Does anyone know of any orgs or companies that purchase waste and then turn it into something productive like energy, compost, etc?

Michael

Hi everyone! I'm Michael studying Architecture in TU Delft in the Netherlands. I'm now designing a facade system made of mixed plastics and recycled HDPE/PP. I am looking for a workshop/ factory for prototyping. Also planning to scale it up and apply for the Dutch Design Week 2022. Here is the video showing my vision. Are there any one would like to support this idea?

Hi Michael! Have you found a workshop/factory yet? The school I work for in The Hague is in process of setting up a small workshop. I could check whether it would be possible for you to you create some prototypes (the payment being a workshop/seminar on your design for inspiration for the students). There is also a workshop in Zaandam that you can hire. I can’t remember the name but is easily searchable on Bazaar. Good luck! Your design looks really cool!

Trashkicker

Was your mould cold or heated and what distance from the oven was it?

hello there, sorry for responding so lately (i am on the verge of selling my business and moving to the countryside, so not in front of my computer that much ...) The mould was heated INSIDE the oven, for approx 30-45seconds; just for it to heatup a bit, and therefore limit the thermal choc :)

Hello. Where can I find the download kit for the basic shredder 2.0?

Hello

is there a template for all the stuff needed for a Mix-workshop? (tools, containers, shelves, etc)

wietze

Hello. Where can I find the download kit for the basic shredder 2.0?

if you are looking for the blueprints/CAD files of V 2.0, they are in the starter kit of the mix workspace https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-a-mix-workspace

Hello ❤️

is the basic extruder discontinued? Just asking because I can only find the blue prints of the extrusion pro

how is everyone

Chantiluna

Hello ❤️

is the basic extruder discontinued? Just asking because I can only find the blue prints of the extrusion pro

Check the "mixed workspace" starterkit

Trying to set up a grinder that runs on 110v single phase. I'm sure its been done before. any help in how to get this set up would be appreciated.

CleverMouse

Trying to set up a grinder that runs on 110v single phase. I'm sure its been done before. any help in how to get this set up would be appreciated.

110VAC definitely limits the power and compatibility with motors and controllers, but it is doable. I'd be happy to discuss our experiences if you find it helpful.

Hello Guys, just got here since like 2-3 years. I was registered on the website. Was it reseted, so I need to renew my registration? I have the same email adress where bazar messages was sent, but cannot log-in so probably I need a new registration. can you confirm?

Sastas

Hello Guys, just got here since like 2-3 years. I was registered on the website. Was it reseted, so I need to renew my registration? I have the same email adress where bazar messages was sent, but cannot log-in so probably I need a new registration. can you confirm?

Hi @Sastas you could DM me your email and I can check if it's still in the system

0xjuca

Hello everyone! Today I'm very happy because after a lot of work, we just finished our first plastic product. Thank you everyone in this community for your help! I wrote a small article about the experience, hope somebody can read it Regards from Antigua Guatemala, Guatemala https://ninjadevs.io.gt/protector-facial-upcycling-02-08-2020/

Hola Oxjuca, estoy iniciando en el reciclaje, me gustaría platicar sobre tus experiencias desarollando las maquinas de precious plastic.

CitSciWorkshop

110VAC definitely limits the power and compatibility with motors and controllers, but it is doable. I'd be happy to discuss our experiences if you find it helpful.

Any help would be appreciated. I have drawers filled with acetate scrap left over from making frames and would like to reuse it. But first I have to grind it all into small pieces.

CitSciWorkshop started a thread. 6/1/2022 12:40 AM

8:14 AM

Does anyone know about stroke length of this Hydraulic cylinder

Sreerag A

Does anyone know about stroke length of this Hydraulic cylinder

Check out the how-to here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/log-splitter-injector-upgrade

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

has anyone used precious plastic fonts on Canva Pro?

Hello everybody ! I'm new on the chat

i was scrolling real precious plastic website but i can't find the open sources files to build my own machine. Someone would be able to help me ? Thanks a lot

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build I found I couldn't open it with Firefox, I had to use Chrome. (edited)

Precious Plastic Basic Machines

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Hi! I am wondering if the recycled brick have obtained certificate on its flammability, which shows that it is safe to use for an interior/ exterior wall?

Lou

Hello everybody ! I'm new on the chat

i was scrolling real precious plastic website but i can't find the open sources files to build my own machine. Someone would be able to help me ? Thanks a lot

Here is the link to it. https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/basic.html

The Basic machines are perfect to get started into plastic recycling and create educational workshops. These are the Shredder, Extrusion, Injection and Compression machine.

@Jose Alejandro I was looking over the information about the conversion rates and such from the month of may for the brazar and that got me wondering. What about the amount is people that browse the brazar and then reach out and purchase directly from the PP businesses? For instance, I was looking for injection molds for my universities new PP shop and I contacted three different PP mould creators some through the brazar massaging system and some through their posted social medias. For all three of those people I was not able to make a purchase directly form the brazar if I wanted too. I had to reach out to them directly. One got back to me very quickly and we worked things out for a customer mold and payment was done not through the brazar but a different method. The second one had sent a quote for a simple product with no customizations. My university didn't have enough funds to make that purchase so we politely turned them down and apologized for taking up their time. But yet again the method of payment for the second option would not have been through the brazar. The third option took a while to get back to us. By the time they did we had to turn them down right away do to lack of funds in our part so no quotes were given. But it still stands as how does the brazar take into account the times where transactions are done directly from one to another despite first being identified through the brazar?

Hi Everyone, I'm looking for advice on motor selection to power a small shredder and extruder. Access to a 3-phase socket is an issue for us, but I notice many machines require that type of power supply. I can buy some single-phase motors but I'm concerned they won't be powerful enough to do the job. Does anyone have experience with shredders/extruders on single-phase motors? What parameters do I have to look out for? Thanks for any advice. Craig

cr0wnether

Hi Everyone, I'm looking for advice on motor selection to power a small shredder and extruder. Access to a 3-phase socket is an issue for us, but I notice many machines require that type of power supply. I can buy some single-phase motors but I'm concerned they won't be powerful enough to do the job. Does anyone have experience with shredders/extruders on single-phase motors? What parameters do I have to look out for? Thanks for any advice. Craig

my shredder and extruder use single phase 220v. If you have three phase, you can wire it up to work off 1 phase. You can also buy a single to three phase VFD if you want to control speeds.

8:51 AM

Whereabouts are you located in the world?

Thanks. We're in Saudi Arabia. Our power output is unusual, 230v 60Hz so it makes sourcing equipment challenging

Come to Indonesia, it's more unusual here. My power varies between 195-220v

8:54 AM

50hz

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I'm talking with a supply in China that can make shredder with a modified motor to meet our requirements. It is attached to the blades by a belt, though. I'm concerned it won't have the power to do the job. Thanks Ben, it's reassuring that 230/220V motor and still do the job. (edited)

I've seen that style. Works ok, just watch your fingers if you want to reverse things. If you have a good online marketplace over there, look for 2hp electric motors and you might find something

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Here is the link to it. https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/basic.html

thanks a lot

cr0wnether

Thanks. We're in Saudi Arabia. Our power output is unusual, 230v 60Hz so it makes sourcing equipment challenging

A single to three phase VFD would work perfectly for you then.

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melissayemima

Hi everyone... I’m proposing the creation of dining furniture to support circular economy for my thesis final project. The one question that i got asked a lot from my professors is that they’re worried weather the process of melting plastic & the fumes that comes with it is sustainable or not. They said that the concept of circular economy & this manufacturing process is contradicting since it still produces fumes that are harmful for the workers & environment therefore its not sustainable. Do anyone have any suggestions/ resources that i can use to convince them to approve this manufacturing process?

Hiii Melissa, do you found a solution for fumes?

melissayemima

Hi everyone... I’m proposing the creation of dining furniture to support circular economy for my thesis final project. The one question that i got asked a lot from my professors is that they’re worried weather the process of melting plastic & the fumes that comes with it is sustainable or not. They said that the concept of circular economy & this manufacturing process is contradicting since it still produces fumes that are harmful for the workers & environment therefore its not sustainable. Do anyone have any suggestions/ resources that i can use to convince them to approve this manufacturing process?

you wont release any dangerous flumes if you stay under 180 C

Yooo guys, where the project is located?

10:53 PM

I mean, which country? Terrain looks really great (edited)

portugal

Hi... We have a situation. Currently, we dont have a regular electricity where our farm is located... very frequent power cuts... hence we want to store water in big tank and use gravity to distribute... however, the pressure is not as expected. So I am looking for your solution implemented in Project Kamp which used to generate water pressure... Could anyone here please provide more information on it? It will be very helpful.

Well i'm kind of lost after one h of jumping from one page to another to understand where and how i can provide support. I'm offering my poor skills mainly to Project Kamp as i'd like to set up a social dumpster my own (or being part in such project for PK). I have no money (even to subscribe on patreon) I have no power sources (beside the normal 3kW house) so i cannot plan to run 500+W machines for long time without an economic compensation. Right now i have something like 2 cubic meters to devolve for the cause and a bunch of recovered devices to trade for maybe some bureaucratic support ? Looks like the "map orientation tool" is not yet running so i did not understand yet how far i am form other groups to collaborate with. Thanks for any suggestion that can point me to provide profitable collaboration. (for example i estimate to have all the parts needed for a shredder and an extruder, and i have a 3d fdm printer (tevo tarantula) that after a month i turned off cause consumes too much power for my pocket and need to run at least other 20 days of test to calibrate. I do not have the place nor the energy (money) to run devices in a stable way so i cannot start the virtuous process. I'm dreaming in a facility that can process metals and maybe micro chips (recycle and produce) from open source designs for the consumer market (as u can see I dare to dream but i'm not even close to start). BTW i have enough time to "waste" so if i can do something for you let me know. Thanks for all your suggestions and proposal Alfonso, Vicenza, Italy.

Hello all, I am interested in removing the rough edge with a more consistent and clean edge. Anyone have any information on how to cut HDPE plastic cleanly?

lonesoac0

Hello all, I am interested in removing the rough edge with a more consistent and clean edge. Anyone have any information on how to cut HDPE plastic cleanly?

try a circular saw?

6:24 PM

be sure to use a mask as the dust is nasty

folks what sort of equipment do you need to CNC or Laser cut the machines yourself?

Zifor

folks what sort of equipment do you need to CNC or Laser cut the machines yourself?

We use a fiber laser for cutting metal plate and sheet metal, bridgeport cnc mill, mig and tig welding, and a geared lathe. We do still outsource some parts from shops with bigger machines too, or suppliers of finished parts.

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CitSciWorkshop

We use a fiber laser for cutting metal plate and sheet metal, bridgeport cnc mill, mig and tig welding, and a geared lathe. We do still outsource some parts from shops with bigger machines too, or suppliers of finished parts.

Are there any workshops you would recommend in UK to potentially get work done from if i cant viably make the equipment? I am on the map but looking at personal recommendations

Zifor

Are there any workshops you would recommend in UK to potentially get work done from if i cant viably make the equipment? I am on the map but looking at personal recommendations

@Rory - Sustainable Design Studio would be great to talk to about that.

thank you

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Hey @Zifor there is a good bunch of workspaces that might be able to help you.

12:42 AM

Best found on Instagram.

12:42 AM

Doba Studio is in Edinburgh (edited)

12:42 AM

Brothers Make is in Bournemouth

12:43 AM

Relic Plastics (Precious Plastic Lancaster) is in Lancaster

12:44 AM

Let me know if you need more options

cheers , i am not on social media , so i will view their website and see them

12:49 AM

i will for sure @ you with any questions or email them direct or on here if they are on here!

yopa

Hi... We have a situation. Currently, we dont have a regular electricity where our farm is located... very frequent power cuts... hence we want to store water in big tank and use gravity to distribute... however, the pressure is not as expected. So I am looking for your solution implemented in Project Kamp which used to generate water pressure... Could anyone here please provide more information on it? It will be very helpful.

What's your problem exactly? Not enough pressure? What are you using it for? Usually a tank that's high enough will have enough pressure, but if your piping is too small you might have flow issues.

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2:57 PM

Does anyone know how to make this?

2:57 PM

And what i need?

TFK Willem

Does anyone know how to make this?

Looks like a very cheap solution to visualize the energy of radio waves?!

So I am not sure what your question is. You have the circuit diagram and there is also a prototype. Do you need to know where to buy these pieces, do you want to know what tools are required (soldering station...)?

Hi there, I have the plan to start recycling PP ( my Goal is to make PP sheets). I got acces to tons of PP "bands" that are few micro thick and hundreds of meters long. Do you think I could avoid the shredding process ?

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

Looks like a very cheap solution to visualize the energy of radio waves?!

So I am not sure what your question is. You have the circuit diagram and there is also a prototype. Do you need to know where to buy these pieces, do you want to know what tools are required (soldering station...)?

I know nothing about tech so maybe where to buy it and how to start making it I already have a soldering iron

neeko

Hi there, I have the plan to start recycling PP ( my Goal is to make PP sheets). I got acces to tons of PP "bands" that are few micro thick and hundreds of meters long. Do you think I could avoid the shredding process ?

Sheets is usually quite flexible with the size of the flakes. We made sheets from non-shredded bottle caps for example. What I could see though is this band being a bit hard to fit in the mould if let that long. But you could try to just cut them from 10 to 50cm long manually. You will also keep the band aspect which is cool to tell the story of your sheet.

TFK Willem

I know nothing about tech so maybe where to buy it and how to start making it I already have a soldering iron

I dont know where you are from, so i cant suggest a specific place where you can buy it from. But there are enough places online. C945 for example is a transistor. Search for "transistor c945" then you should find many sources immediately. Led can be any default 3 or 5mm led, choose a color you prefer. They usually consume a current of ~20mA. Apart from that there is only the battery holder and an antenna. You could use any wire as antenna, usually the length of the wire matters... But not sure if it matters in your scenario. Such a spiral antenna is often used to reduce space (same wire length but still not that long). Modellbau shops might offer such wires to build your own antenna

so their is black smith a person who works with metal a woodworker that works with wood and their is us. since we work with plastic what does that make us ??

Polymer Priests

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hey @Mattia so a black smith a person who works with metal a woodworker that works with wood and their is us. since we work with plastic what does that make us ??

Zifor

Polymer Priests

nah

Alex_recycles and creates

nah

Nah

Zifor

Polymer Priests

we dont really worship polymers

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It’s more it rhymes with Polymer

we need to have a meeting

12:20 AM

on what we can call our selves

Srs bsnss

Zifor

Srs bsnss

??

12:26 AM

we can call the people that collect the plastic. plastic hunters

12:26 AM

maybe

Hopper De opening die gaat dienen om het granulaat in de extruder te gooien.

Hey,

I'm interested to know in what area of Portugal is project camp located, I'm following on YouTube and really liking the project

Plasticians is what we are

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Hello does somebody know how to operate a water bath , the needed temperature to cool down PLA after it comes out the extruder

https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/599284493525843984/952967343976362116

3:44 PM

Same problem with Ally whereas I follow 9/6.. Who is the spokesperson for that please ? Thanks OneArmy team, I send you all my brave

Alex_recycles and creates

hey @Mattia so a black smith a person who works with metal a woodworker that works with wood and their is us. since we work with plastic what does that make us ??

Polymergers! Polymorphers!

NJ90210

Polymergers! Polymorphers!

maybe

5:15 PM

idk

Hi

Hi all, does anyone who's been studying the BOM for the washing machine have a link to the following product? I can't find it on Leroy Merlin Clean Water Tank - JARDIBRIC 3/4" to 3/4" PVC elbow coupling with inner thread (32mm 90* to filterhouse)

I’m curious does anyone have experience working with Polycarbonate? (edited)

Ryan C (he/him)

I’m curious does anyone have experience working with Polycarbonate? (edited)

https://www.instagram.com/p/B94BRErl0nb/ I know these guys melt it into these chairs

Hello Community.. I am in a bit of a pickle . I am writing from Pakistan. We are a Plastic Scrap Trading Company. We recently imported two 20 ft containers of EVA Scrap( At least we were told its EVA by our seller) however when the material arrived although it does look like EVA but all our regular clients of EVA when they try to run the material in their machinery it doesn't work. Is there a way of identifying what the material actually is. It will help us identify a potential buyer

hi

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InfinityX

Hello Community.. I am in a bit of a pickle . I am writing from Pakistan. We are a Plastic Scrap Trading Company. We recently imported two 20 ft containers of EVA Scrap( At least we were told its EVA by our seller) however when the material arrived although it does look like EVA but all our regular clients of EVA when they try to run the material in their machinery it doesn't work. Is there a way of identifying what the material actually is. It will help us identify a potential buyer

I don't know much about EVA, but there is different way to characterize plastic : spectroscopy, calorimetry, mechanical testing... If you want something precise your client can rely on I would try to get close to a material laboratory.

Hello! I am living in the Netherlands. I am wondering if there is any injection mould/ compression mould company in Europe that I can ask for quotation for making a prototype mould for my recycled plastic design?

Michael

Hello! I am living in the Netherlands. I am wondering if there is any injection mould/ compression mould company in Europe that I can ask for quotation for making a prototype mould for my recycled plastic design?

You can contact @Fritz @easymoulds

Yann

You can contact @Fritz @easymoulds

Thank you! I am also wondering if there is any workshop/ plastic community in the Netherlands that I can collab or make prototype?

Hello! How do you make forms for injector machine

Does anyone know where to get design files for the latest shredder version? Is there a link somewhere?

2:49 PM

The website shows version 2.1. However, in Bazaar, I see people selling version 3.3.

hi everyone

I just Joined Precious Plastic. How do I add edit the logo to add my name and change the flag?

I actually deal with fabric shredding, and currently shred fabric using a cross-cut shredder that I bought a few months back. However, that shredder is not meant for fabric, and that is showing on the machine, which is breaking down as a result. I think a Precious Plastic shredder would be awesome, but I cannot even close to afford one as of right now. Anyone know of any alternatives?

hi

Hi

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Hi

UpcycleLuce

I actually deal with fabric shredding, and currently shred fabric using a cross-cut shredder that I bought a few months back. However, that shredder is not meant for fabric, and that is showing on the machine, which is breaking down as a result. I think a Precious Plastic shredder would be awesome, but I cannot even close to afford one as of right now. Anyone know of any alternatives?

alternatives but low capacity would be blender, modified wood planer, scissors

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Looks easy but I think this could be quite difficult, unless you´re having a good sewing machine and all the materials, the bow is easy of course though - somehow. (edited)

I think using metalrings but the leash being durable = thicker needle & thread than just handsewn, maybe waterproof and non-allergic to that puppy's skin?

Hey Guys I have like 25 kg of plastic to recycle from printing with the openerv.org project, any ideas on what I can do with it? It's sorted into petg and pla.

@adouglas Where are you located? Maybe there is a workspace near by where you can do something useful with it? Otherwise there are also a few people who would create new filament out of it

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

@adouglas Where are you located? Maybe there is a workspace near by where you can do something useful with it? Otherwise there are also a few people who would create new filament out of it

I'm in Cornwall, about 5 hours from toronto, 1.5 hours from Ottawa, and montreal. There might be someone in montreal, the challenge is finding them.

adouglas

Hey Guys I have like 25 kg of plastic to recycle from printing with the openerv.org project, any ideas on what I can do with it? It's sorted into petg and pla.

you can make PLA sheets. I havent been successful with PETG yet, lots of cracking and unhappiness from the plastic.

6:28 AM

I've probably shared this like 20 times now. but anyways, heres a photo of a pink and cream colored sheet. Just beware that for whatever reason PLA dye sticks to your mould surfaces (steel or silicone).

6:29 AM

oh, you can use silicone coaster moulds if you have an oven and shredded PLA. PLA doesn't really like to be shredded with a hot shredder, it'll just melt. So take your time shredding, let it cool down after a run of 10 minutes or so. but mostly just keep an eye on how things are running (edited)

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I've probably shared this like 20 times now. but anyways, heres a photo of a pink and cream colored sheet. Just beware that for whatever reason PLA dye sticks to your mould surfaces (steel or silicone).

I heard from an old-timer in the 3D printing world that PLA filament dye is actually minute particles of dyed ABS. It works for 3D printing bc the PLA keeps moving through the hot zone, carrying the dispersed dye with it.

cr41gsingh44s

I heard from an old-timer in the 3D printing world that PLA filament dye is actually minute particles of dyed ABS. It works for 3D printing bc the PLA keeps moving through the hot zone, carrying the dispersed dye with it.

This is true that some folks use the same type of concentrate in their production of PLA and ABS, but is less common now that PLA is so popular on its own.

9:39 PM

A good sign of that is if a supplier rates their printing temperatures closer to ABS melting temp even if the product is PLA.

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Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of any people/organizations that have built the PP sheetpress in the US with imperial units. We were looking at ordering parts from the original bill of materials but found it to be a bit difficult because everything is in metric units.

Justin Seth

Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of any people/organizations that have built the PP sheetpress in the US with imperial units. We were looking at ordering parts from the original bill of materials but found it to be a bit difficult because everything is in metric units.

@CitSciWorkshop is I believe!

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Justin Seth

Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of any people/organizations that have built the PP sheetpress in the US with imperial units. We were looking at ordering parts from the original bill of materials but found it to be a bit difficult because everything is in metric units.

The conversion and supply and power adaptation is rough! I'd be happy to help, we've got a few folks building the press from parts for their local communities.

Hello guys, Its been a while. I wonder if there is any volunteering program available. I would like to bring my time in a nice project.

CitSciWorkshop

The conversion and supply and power adaptation is rough! I'd be happy to help, we've got a few folks building the press from parts for their local communities.

Any help would be great appreciated! Is there a way I can contact you outside if discord?

Justin Seth

Any help would be great appreciated! Is there a way I can contact you outside if discord?

FR sent, I'd be happy to share contact details.

do we have a chat about the yearly timelapses?

Hi all, has anyone got any experience injection moulding recycled PLA? And if so, what temperatures? Is there anything else which works differently to HPDE and PP? Cheers

isnt plastic even differing e.g. being a lid/cap or sides of a bottle?

Maypoem

Hi all, has anyone got any experience injection moulding recycled PLA? And if so, what temperatures? Is there anything else which works differently to HPDE and PP? Cheers

Might get a better response in #archived-plastic

yes. i have observed that while many lids are not labelled of which category they are, some are HDPE or LDPE. the body of a bottle/tub can be PET or PP.

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Maypoem

Hi all, has anyone got any experience injection moulding recycled PLA? And if so, what temperatures? Is there anything else which works differently to HPDE and PP? Cheers

Just be aware there's two types of HDPE that you'll find. Let's just call them Inject and Blow. Inject stuff tends to be bottlecaps. Blow stuff tends to be bottles. The difference between the two is that HDPE blow is very thick when it melts and people get confused and think it's not melting (and then turn up the heat and burn the plastic on accident). So if you're having a hard time with HDPE, this is why.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNkdAggUGU

Moon

Discord: The Most Evil Business In The World

Hey no body tends to listen to me about cleaning and improving worn or even new leather but someone here might find it useful. In Australia (not sure about other countries) there is an old style leather product called dubbin which you rub into leather fast and thoroughly so it generates heat and the product seeps into the leather and it helps restore, clean, some what water proof and helps increase the life span of leather products wether it be shoes, jackets, seats saddles or other leather goods

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Hello. Happy Father's Day to everyone who is a father, or may have had one.

@Ley Klussyn could you please remove the message above? it is a scam link

5:14 PM

its also in #introduce-yrself

5:14 PM

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several

@Ley Klussyn could you please remove the message above? it is a scam link

Thank you for the ping!

Hello everyone! I'm From Panama, I'm building the extruder pro, Im trying to do some adaptations for work with PET, does somebody knows how to do it?

Does anyone knows how to download the shredder pro?

3:58 PM

please. help e

Felipechk93

Does anyone knows how to download the shredder pro?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-a-shredder-workspace

QOTSTEOS PTC Thermostat-Heizplatte, PTC Konstante Temperatur Heizpl...

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Hi everyone! I'm in the process of building a sheetpress! Instead of cartridge heaters I've found these PTC heaters online. https://www.amazon.de/-/nl/gp/aw/d/B09MMZWFP1?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image Which I think would be⁷ perfect, as they are kind of mount ready. However my only 2 concerns are: 1. With an external PID controller, can you regulate its temp? And it says it is limited to 260c this might be a little to low for PET. 2. So, is there a way to "overclock" these? Would love to hear if someone has experiences with those, else I'll have to go the cartridge heater route! Kind regards, Kay

Features: 1.Material: aus PTC-Brettschirm, umweltfreundlich, langlebig und zu verwendender Studie. 2.Automatische konstante Temperatur: 260 Konstante Temperatur, Oberflächenisolierung, sicher zu bedienen. 3.Wide Use: Geeignet für Lampenperlen, Splitter, Desolder-Werkzeuge. 4.Easy Installation: Ei...

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KayJansen

Hi everyone! I'm in the process of building a sheetpress! Instead of cartridge heaters I've found these PTC heaters online. https://www.amazon.de/-/nl/gp/aw/d/B09MMZWFP1?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image Which I think would be⁷ perfect, as they are kind of mount ready. However my only 2 concerns are: 1. With an external PID controller, can you regulate its temp? And it says it is limited to 260c this might be a little to low for PET. 2. So, is there a way to "overclock" these? Would love to hear if someone has experiences with those, else I'll have to go the cartridge heater route! Kind regards, Kay

I have a bunch of small versions of these for a different project. They're nice because you turn them on and forget about them. No need for PID. They're self regulating. BUT, this means you wont be able to set the temperature and there's no thermometer unless you add one. If you wish to use these then you'll need to find ones that are set at the appropriate temperature. There's no adjustments which is a blessing and a curse. Just depends on what youre trying to do.

9:10 AM

and good luck making PET sheets. I've never seen anyone on here make PET sheets.

Hi Ben thanks for the info! Yes I thought adding a PID controller, maybe that way you can regulate the temp until 260c, but then I will go the Cartridge route, better safe than sorry! Yep PET will be a whole experience on it's own, but 50% of my current supply chain is PET... we will see! Thanks :)

KayJansen

Hi Ben thanks for the info! Yes I thought adding a PID controller, maybe that way you can regulate the temp until 260c, but then I will go the Cartridge route, better safe than sorry! Yep PET will be a whole experience on it's own, but 50% of my current supply chain is PET... we will see! Thanks :)

The problem is that sometimes what we set for temperature is not what we get. So even if your heater elements are set at 270C, the surface of the sheet press might be lower, kind of depends on a few factors. Anyways, you DO have options for different heaters if you want. If the cardridge route is too expensive, you might find that plate heaters work. I have a smaller sheet press but they get the job done and have similar electrical consumption.

9:18 AM

strip heater

Yup I'm experiencing that already at the moment, I have a t shirt laminating press for small sheets, 35x35cm plates, which is okay for its price, but only goes upto 232 and heats only one side. Time to jump into the deep and build a bigger more professional one

9:20 AM

Thanks for the tip, I will definitely look into those aswell!

hey, how does everyone go about cleaning injection machine?

6:45 PM

and getting rid of plastic on moulds

Saben si hay argentinos por aca ?

Does anyone have all the drawings for making the shredder in PDF files? The download on the website doesn't contain all, just some drawings. Any help is appreciated.

Hi all - quick question re building Shredder Pro. Looking at the Bill of Materials I cannot see an LCD screen listed, but in instructional videos and even in blueprints it is present. Is the bill of materials correct? Or am I missing something?

cuvauto

Does anyone have all the drawings for making the shredder in PDF files? The download on the website doesn't contain all, just some drawings. Any help is appreciated.

Hi, can you sent me the link ? To understand which shredder / version. Normally all pdf are listed, but mistakes happens and we might have missed some !

AnswerIllustrious429

Hi all - quick question re building Shredder Pro. Looking at the Bill of Materials I cannot see an LCD screen listed, but in instructional videos and even in blueprints it is present. Is the bill of materials correct? Or am I missing something?

Are you looking at these drawings : https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/shrpro---20 ? On the latest version we stopped using Arduino (and therefore the LCD screen), and replace it by a simple thermal relay and timer for the auto-reverse.

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Thanks Yann - I just downloaded the complete Download Kit V4 - I believe this is Shredder Pro V1, but still seems the lcd component is missing from the BOM

AnswerIllustrious429

Thanks Yann - I just downloaded the complete Download Kit V4 - I believe this is Shredder Pro V1, but still seems the lcd component is missing from the BOM

Ok, you are right. I don't remember the exact reference we used during V4, I will dig in if needed. But I would recommend you check the electronics from the link I sent before, as this is a much more reliable and stable way to wire your motor, and it is completely exchangeable with the download kit version. If you stick to a 2.2kW motor, then the download kit version will be fine, I would still recommend that you check the drawings from the how-to, as the robustness of the shredder have also been improved there

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Hello everyone, i have a small struder and i want yo melt HDPE from plastic bags, cause we have big issues with the banano bags, and I need to know the temperature that I need to melt them :) thank you

1:04 AM

i want to build a machine. its posible Recycle plastic with 0 % of toxic fume?

Hello! Im building a sheetpress workshop. Does anyone know how to paste the panels to walls? With which adhesive. Thank you!

Maria, hola, es difícil hacer la prensa? Cuanto de presión le tengo que dar a la plancha para que quede parejo?

Oscar Cornejo

Hello everyone, i have a small struder and i want yo melt HDPE from plastic bags, cause we have big issues with the banano bags, and I need to know the temperature that I need to melt them :) thank you

You can melt HDPE from 140 to 200 Celcius, it depend on your process, plastic additives, size of flakes etc… start low and increase progressively if needed. Also double check it is HDPE ? Bags can be done with a lot of different plastic types.

basty

i want to build a machine. its posible Recycle plastic with 0 % of toxic fume?

Definitely not. Staying under the degradation temperature will reduce the fumes and their toxicity, but there is still some remaining : because we don’t know all additives incorporated in the plastic initially, or impurities that stays on it. But is you install a proper ventilation in your space, with filtration, and were appropriate PPE, it should be fine.

Hi everyone! I would like to create a product for my startup with precious plastic or a plastic recycling partner, Could anyone advise me on whom should I be discussing options with?

Yann

You can melt HDPE from 140 to 200 Celcius, it depend on your process, plastic additives, size of flakes etc… start low and increase progressively if needed. Also double check it is HDPE ? Bags can be done with a lot of different plastic types.

Thank you Yann, and what about the time in the struder and the pressure? The flakes are small, 1 inch... If I can strude this plastic bag will be a great solution in north of Peru.

Oscar Cornejo

Maria, hola, es difícil hacer la prensa? Cuanto de presión le tengo que dar a la plancha para que quede parejo?

Hola oscar. La presion depende de la cantidad de plastico que tengas en el molde. Tienes que intentar porque cada prensa es diferente

No, hablaba de la presión de la extrusión y del tiempo que tiene que estar en el extrusor, sabes cómo va cambiando la temperatura también? O sea que cuando entra pasa a una resistencia que le dé 60 grados, luego a otra de 90 y así hasta llegar a 200? Y la velocidad del.extrusor?

Bula vinaka from Fiji

Hi Everyone, I was wondering where I could find some Plastic Brick Molds which can be modified for labelling purposes for my extruder machine ? I'm Based in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia, so its been tricky to find manufacturers that will deliver to us. Do let me know if you can help ! Happy weekend all ❤️

Oscar Cornejo

No, hablaba de la presión de la extrusión y del tiempo que tiene que estar en el extrusor, sabes cómo va cambiando la temperatura también? O sea que cuando entra pasa a una resistencia que le dé 60 grados, luego a otra de 90 y así hasta llegar a 200? Y la velocidad del.extrusor?

Yo trabajo con prensa de calor. De extrusion no sabria decirte la verdad

Maria Jimena

Yo trabajo con prensa de calor. De extrusion no sabria decirte la verdad

Muchas gracias Jime, otra cosa armar la prensa es muy difícil?

If anyones near Texas I’d like to get my hands on some HDPE sheets and such

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7:23 AM

Or at least a large supply of shredded hdpe

7:23 AM

I’m trying to do a floor in a RV I’m converting

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I'm moving to mozzilla element, I'll keep follow the project but i'll "delete" my discord account. Forgive me but it's a choice of life... Thanks for everything.

In the Precious Plastic web Academy article on the shredder, there's a typo under Troubleshooting. It says "switch on", but I think it should be "switch off". See https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredder

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everyone

12:20 AM

I have so much energy what should I do

Hello everyone, I am trying to use plastic sheets as wall tiles but struggling to find a way to stick them to the wall as most adhesives do not work with PE. I would really appreciate it if anyone could have a suggestion!

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Hiiiii community, could you please help me for filter system.

any meetings soon ?

Hi, how did you guys overcome soldering the cables together in the heatpress, as most solder melts at 230c? Thinking about crimping the cables together instead, whats your take on this?

Yes, the cables are connected with not coated buttsplices, and then protected with heat resistant heat shrink to not electrify the aluminium plates.

Hey there! Can I write here to have some suggestions about building the extrusion machine?

2:39 PM

Actually I would want to use precious plastic extrusion screw I’ve found on RobotDigg website for a personal project of recycling

2:40 PM

And I just want some suggestions about the motor parameters

I’ve seen precious plastic recommends 140Nm for this screw but it seems a bit too much to me, does anyone know if this should be just a peak value or must be guaranteed in nominal condition? My business is to reach just 10 kg/h

umbertobisotti8623

I’ve seen precious plastic recommends 140Nm for this screw but it seems a bit too much to me, does anyone know if this should be just a peak value or must be guaranteed in nominal condition? My business is to reach just 10 kg/h

the high torque recommended for the v4 extrusion machine is because the aim of the machine is to produce beams mainly, and in that sense the torque is there to be sure there is enough strength to fill the moulds properly !

Nick - PP France

the high torque recommended for the v4 extrusion machine is because the aim of the machine is to produce beams mainly, and in that sense the torque is there to be sure there is enough strength to fill the moulds properly !

Thank you for the answer! The system I was thinking to set up for this 10kg/h extruder is a 1.8kW motor+reducer that can guarantee 60Nm nominal torque at 250 rpm and peak values of 180Nm (looking at its datasheet

). In your opinion would it be enough?

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Hi everybody, my english is very short, somebody speak spanish please? I have some cuestions about the electronics part of the injection machine.

Te recomiendo que lo preguntes en el chat de Latinoamerica, ahi todos hablan español.

Disculpa pero donde es eso? Es otro server de discord?

no, es aqui mismo, yo por ejemplo tengo el rol de project kamp y tengo el canal abajo (edited)

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11:24 PM

#🍌latin-america es este

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Yann

Hi, can you sent me the link ? To understand which shredder / version. Normally all pdf are listed, but mistakes happens and we might have missed some !

Hey thanks for replying Yann. I think I have it figured out now. Sorry for the late reply.

KayJansen

Hi, how did you guys overcome soldering the cables together in the heatpress, as most solder melts at 230c? Thinking about crimping the cables together instead, whats your take on this?

Ceramic terminal blocks are used to make the electrical connections in hot environments, not solder. :)

stkalcioglu

Hello everyone, I am trying to use plastic sheets as wall tiles but struggling to find a way to stick them to the wall as most adhesives do not work with PE. I would really appreciate it if anyone could have a suggestion!

(edited)

I'm developing a mold to make the hexagonal shape with a flared angle on the side, to allow the tiles to be fixed on the wall by the cement (or better with polyurethane sealant) due to their shape instead of the glue properties. It is more complex than a straight one, but it must work better.

@umbertobisotti8623 Italiano? Di dove?

@BarbarianRun.eth🔮🦜, nice to move from netherlands to portugal ...personally I'd think of supporting people in austria on my side as it's rare to even inspire neighbors to divide waste into the right trashbins. I guess having them in my team to upcycle plastic being even more rare then. as I'm less the use who uses ressources, rather sharing materials or finding a sunny spot to use heat for melting thin layers of plastic I had like 3kg of cans just by cleaning parks but seems like months & noone collaborated yet

anyone else getting a weird message from Kenzo #6860?

kinda creepy if you ask me. please do not randomly message me.

2:11 AM

especially the rest of what you said.

Guenther banned, for the (at least) 30th time. He was under username Kenzo#6860 this time (edited)

I realy admire the Project Kamps members entusiasm and honesty… the Project Kamp is the real deal. Top #muchlove #respect

Me waiting for you guys to raise some poultry or like rabbits for meat.. i saw you guys already growing vegetables.. A camp should have it too.

2:50 PM

Fishes are good to raise too

They wanna be vegan

Hi guys

anyone from Kamp here today ?

Good evening people excuse me if this is against the rules but i wanted to know if anyone here that have made products with recycled plastic can answer me some questions that will help me with the validation of my university project

Hello

Has anyone ever tried recycling NYLON//LLDPE film in any ways? I have sausage packages problems and wondering if PP machine would be able to work with them. Thank you so much

Hanekáwa

Good evening people excuse me if this is against the rules but i wanted to know if anyone here that have made products with recycled plastic can answer me some questions that will help me with the validation of my university project

You can ask in the Precious Plastic channels or here. up to you

Davide->PreciousPlasticRomagna

I'm developing a mold to make the hexagonal shape with a flared angle on the side, to allow the tiles to be fixed on the wall by the cement (or better with polyurethane sealant) due to their shape instead of the glue properties. It is more complex than a straight one, but it must work better.

Hello Davide, somehow I missed this message, thanks for replying. Sound like a good idea, I am also working on some mechanical ways to hold it, will share if I could find a good way.

umbertobisotti8623

Thank you for the answer! The system I was thinking to set up for this 10kg/h extruder is a 1.8kW motor+reducer that can guarantee 60Nm nominal torque at 250 rpm and peak values of 180Nm (looking at its datasheet

). In your opinion would it be enough?

250rpm without using a speed controller ? Because I think that the final rpm should be less than 60rpm .. and the engine you wanna change won't be a problem if you have the right reduce to gain torque

lukitas79

no, es aqui mismo, yo por ejemplo tengo el rol de project kamp y tengo el canal abajo (edited)

Lukita, yo no puedo ingresar a ese Canal ? Es sólo para los de Patreon?

3:26 PM

I have another question, does anyone tried to make a plastic mixed with sand brick? And the parameters of the extrusion for that? Thanks a lot

Oscar Cornejo

Lukita, yo no puedo ingresar a ese Canal ? Es sólo para los de Patreon?

No, yo he escogido mis roles en el canal de #🖐start-here y entonces me aparece ese canal

Ahhhh

Hiii community, how do you clean the collected plastic?

Fichounette23

Hiii community, how do you clean the collected plastic?

depends on how clean i want things but i use an old clothing washing machine. Worst case scenario, i scrub bottlecaps individually with a toothbrush. You can head over to the #archived-washing channel and ask others. People use a few different methods, all depends on what you require for outcome.

Ben, how can I do to get into.the other channels?

Fichounette23

Hiii community, how do you clean the collected plastic?

Using the washing machine is a great idea for small scale and you can dry all.the material using a fan or just letting the scarp on the floor using the sun as a tool. Otherwise you have a large scale way to do it.

Oscar Cornejo

Ben, how can I do to get into.the other channels?

go to #🖐start-here and press the PreciousPlastic

emote on the pinned post. it will open the precious plastic channels

Should do walls and floor in plastics? I’m getting close to where I’m about to start ripping all the wood out and looking at substitutes. Currently it’s just old wood panel - styrofoam - metal

no0tle

Should do walls and floor in plastics? I’m getting close to where I’m about to start ripping all the wood out and looking at substitutes. Currently it’s just old wood panel - styrofoam - metal

100% full of plastic

Hi. I've just joined. Followed you here from your YouTube channel. I went to "start here" and joined the Project Kamp project but it tells me that I do not have permission to send messages to this chat! Any suggestions?

no0tle

Should do walls and floor in plastics? I’m getting close to where I’m about to start ripping all the wood out and looking at substitutes. Currently it’s just old wood panel - styrofoam - metal

Plastics, however dont be cheap about it or else it will likely bite you in the butt later on

anitaemcasa

Hi. I've just joined. Followed you here from your YouTube channel. I went to "start here" and joined the Project Kamp project but it tells me that I do not have permission to send messages to this chat! Any suggestions?

you just have to click on the project you are interested in and then you get assigned a role. You can then scroll down on the left bar to see you have more options available now. Then you go to itroduce yourself and well, introduce yourself

Hey I saw your videos on you tube about projectkamp. Was wondeing what region you are in. I bought a house and some land in Portugal about 5 years ago. Only about an acre but have been renovating and fixing the land up over the years

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3:36 PM

Im in Viseu district. Near sao pedo do sul

3:36 PM

I only go for around a month or two a year as I work and live in canada but interesting to see your videos

3:37 PM

oh my bad, I see how to get the Projec Kamp chanel. Thx

LEVEL 1 BOOST BABYYY

PupLucifer

you just have to click on the project you are interested in and then you get assigned a role. You can then scroll down on the left bar to see you have more options available now. Then you go to itroduce yourself and well, introduce yourself

Thanks! I'll try again

Hi, I would need drawings to build the sheetpress machine. Does anyone have a link please? Thank you

mattiabaky

Hi, I would need drawings to build the sheetpress machine. Does anyone have a link please? Thank you

Set up a Sheetpress Workspace

In this How-to we’re going to guide you through all the steps to set up a Sheetpress Workspace. Learn about plastic, how to find a space, get the Sheetpress, find customers and connect to the Precious Plastic Universe. Download files:

https://cutt.ly/starterkit-sheetpress

Step 1-3: Intro Step 4-9: Learn Step 10-18: Set up Step 19-23: Run ...

Spidey

Plastics, however dont be cheap about it or else it will likely bite you in the butt later on

Now the question is HDPE or PP? Since there’s not direct sunlight that’s hitting the floor it should be 100% safe with HDPE? I’m also trying to find a recycled variant like the sheets used in Kamp but sadly I don’t have any real sites near me to ask to source (edited)

9:47 PM

Pp just sounds funny

9:47 PM

“My Winnie is made entirely of pp”

9:48 PM

I also 3d print so PLA is an option

no0tle

Now the question is HDPE or PP? Since there’s not direct sunlight that’s hitting the floor it should be 100% safe with HDPE? I’m also trying to find a recycled variant like the sheets used in Kamp but sadly I don’t have any real sites near me to ask to source (edited)

My vote is for HDPE. PP tends to have more of a smell. PLA is more likely to crack if you're using it as sheets.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

My vote is for HDPE. PP tends to have more of a smell. PLA is more likely to crack if you're using it as sheets.

Ty Ty!

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

My vote is for HDPE. PP tends to have more of a smell. PLA is more likely to crack if you're using it as sheets.

If I can, unsponsored, I suggest hatchbox PLA for 3d printing. I have a set of cup holders and a bunch of little shelves I’ve printed in black.

7:33 PM

Direct sunlight for months on this one, it fell out the truck in like December. No actually warping we just hit it with a lawnmower

I need help understanding how to make moulds? Do I need a welder?

no0tle

If I can, unsponsored, I suggest hatchbox PLA for 3d printing. I have a set of cup holders and a bunch of little shelves I’ve printed in black.

PLA takes about 2 years for it to decompose

Alex_recycles and creates

PLA takes about 2 years for it to decompose

I’m just impressed it’s not melted. It’s been 110 the last few days

1:13 AM

And I really don’t know how long it’s been there

Alex_recycles and creates

PLA takes about 2 years for it to decompose

You're off by 78 years. https://www.gianeco.com/en/faq-detail/1/10/how-long-does-pla-take-to-decompose#:~:text=In%20the%20wild%2C%20it%20takes,plastics%20and%20above%20all%20microplastics.

How long does PLA take to decompose? | Gianeco

PLA is compostable but only in an industrial composting plant.

Hi, how do I access the PP North America channel?

Hello everyone!! Im Sebastián I wanted to show in my university the awesome work that Precious Plastic is doing and I need to contact Precious Plastics Munich or Precious Plastics Germany does anyone know how to get in touch with them?

Seb6166

Hello everyone!! Im Sebastián I wanted to show in my university the awesome work that Precious Plastic is doing and I need to contact Precious Plastics Munich or Precious Plastics Germany does anyone know how to get in touch with them?

I am not familiar with the PP Munich team, but PP Germany has its own discord server

10:53 PM

https://discord.gg/BFvuUYv4

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

I am not familiar with the PP Munich team, but PP Germany has its own discord server

Thanks a lot!!!

Ravi

Hi, how do I access the PP North America channel?

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lunamar

Hello, someone has experience with the biopress? (section 8. Research - beyond plastic), I have some questions about the variables, because in my country I cant get some materials, in the document said that they used 15tf and variable temperature between 200 C to 280C, whats the lower values for this works?

Hello Lunamar! Did you try working with bio press? I'm interested in the #beyondplastic project but there is not so much information to find.

Ravi

Hi, how do I access the PP North America channel?

Go to #🖐start-here and press the PreciousPlastic

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Hello! My team and I are building a pedal powered plastic shredder. Does anyone know where I can find a blueprints for the interior of the shredder? Similar to the laser cutting files in the build your shredder 3.1 video. Thanks!

washiibea

Hello! My team and I are building a pedal powered plastic shredder. Does anyone know where I can find a blueprints for the interior of the shredder? Similar to the laser cutting files in the build your shredder 3.1 video. Thanks!

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-a-shredder-workspace

Set up a Shredder Workspace

In this How-to we’re going to guide you through all the steps to set up a Shredder Workspace. Learn about plastic, how to find a space, get the shredder, find customers and connect to the Precious Plastic Universe. Download files:

https://cutt.ly/starterkit-shredder

Step 1-3: Intro Step 4-8: Learn Step 9-11: Set up Step 12-17: Run Step 18...

Hey folks - has anyone tried injecting polyethylene?

hi

5:17 AM

just knew about this whole project now by a friend. Very interesting, specially in countries with high poverty rate, such as mine (Brazil

).

5:19 AM

there aren't much people here that can talk in english (guess 7% of the country). Is the website available in another languages as well?

5:19 AM

thank you in advance

Anyone use BIO diesel

durack

Hey folks - has anyone tried injecting polyethylene?

That's a common material to inject with. Usually it's HDPE or LDPE but there are other variants of it. (edited)

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

That's a common material to inject with. Usually it's HDPE or LDPE but there are other variants of it. (edited)

Thanks! Was actually looking at clothing but wasn’t sure if that had been tested before

Has anyone every combined HDPE and LDPE with any positive outcome? Not even sure if MDPE exists.

cuvauto

Has anyone every combined HDPE and LDPE with any positive outcome? Not even sure if MDPE exists.

Never combined plastics

5:52 AM

Cause they will be hard to recycle in the future

cuvauto

Has anyone every combined HDPE and LDPE with any positive outcome? Not even sure if MDPE exists.

MDPE is found inside cars

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Can someone guide me? I'm looking for cheap

️ plastic, and a machine to melt into molds

6:42 AM

Thank you much ❤️

So anyone know of a good supplier of hdpe boards near Texas?

Ox55harkuSan

Can someone guide me? I'm looking for cheap

️ plastic, and a machine to melt into molds

Look on the Bazaar on the precious plastics website

Hey guys is it a good ideal if put this back to the hot press and melt it again

I never tried that, but this should be possible. Maybe try to use a smaller frame, or no frame, so you are sure there is enough pressure.

Can anyone tell me the weight/ volume equation for #2plastic?

HDPE density is around 0,95, meaning a liter of melted HDPE will weight around 950g (this is also supposing a perfect structure, no bubbles etc...). But if you are looking for the weight / volume ratio of shredded plastic in general, this is impossible to anticipate, as it depend on how fine you shred, I would say something between 400g per liter if very finely granulated, up to 4 time less for a rough not compacted shred.

Hmmm I probably wasn’t clear with my question. I once saw an equation that would tell exactly how much shredded plastic was needed to fill a certain volume after it was melted. I know what my volume is but I don’t know how much shredded plastic I need to melt in order to fill that volume.

You have given me the density so now I can figure out the mass. Thank you

Yann

HDPE density is around 0,95, meaning a liter of melted HDPE will weight around 950g (this is also supposing a perfect structure, no bubbles etc...). But if you are looking for the weight / volume ratio of shredded plastic in general, this is impossible to anticipate, as it depend on how fine you shred, I would say something between 400g per liter if very finely granulated, up to 4 time less for a rough not compacted shred.

Do you also face bubbles problem with sheets?

masor

Hey guys is it a good ideal if put this back to the hot press and melt it again

4:24 AM

It's fine to put cuttings and sheets already melted back in. This was made from cutoffs and excess that gets pushed out when making sheets. Just be sure to put in enough plastic for your sheet you're making, otherwise it will underfill and have lots of gaps and such

Weezie

Hmmm I probably wasn’t clear with my question. I once saw an equation that would tell exactly how much shredded plastic was needed to fill a certain volume after it was melted. I know what my volume is but I don’t know how much shredded plastic I need to melt in order to fill that volume.

HDPE is 0.95g/cc 1 liter is 1000cc 1000cc is 950g Volume (cc) x 0.95g = the weight you seek. But.... Things might bubble up, especially larger pieces. Weights aren't always consistent either so just be aware the numbers might not be dead on.

hi there!

Weezie

Hmmm I probably wasn’t clear with my question. I once saw an equation that would tell exactly how much shredded plastic was needed to fill a certain volume after it was melted. I know what my volume is but I don’t know how much shredded plastic I need to melt in order to fill that volume.

I'd suggest an empirical approach. get a container (hdpe cup ;), measure its empty weight and volume, fill it with your melted hdpe, let it solidify, measure its weight now and substract the empty weight of the container. the advantage is you'll get the density you create with your specific method and base materials and don't have to worry about bubbles or impurities

I'd also suggest not to use hdpe for outdoor applications, even with added uv stabilzers it's prone for weathering, especially when you're not using pristine but recycled plastic (bubbles, colors, ...)

Sam_82

Do you also face bubbles problem with sheets?

Yes, less than with big beams, but is can happen with sheet as well. It will mostly be because of you plastic quality : humidity, contaminant, additive etc... can be factors for bubbles.

Is anyone making job quitting money from selling shredded plastic?

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We had a site visit Tuesday with PLAF aka the Plastic Flamingo and they showed us some of their recycled plastic projects. The building has 4 tons of plastic lumber. The sheets are LDPE with foil sachet plastic.

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PP Philippines is joining the Philippines association for plastic recycling

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2:01 AM

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2:01 AM

working on that corporate sponsorship.

Hello everybody! I just joined this server and I was wondering if anybody knew what would be a good Respirator to wear while Injection Molding plastics?

I have 2.25kg of PLA 3d Printing filament that I would like recycled. My local recycling company does not take it. Would I be able to send it to someone to reprocess it back into 1.75mm filament reels. I will clean the filament. As long as it is a decent price, I will send it. <$50. I am located in PA, USA.

Hi, how much is a professional sheet press machine for sheets size 3000 x 1200 mm and up to 30mm thickness? Can you recommend any manufactures for high quality and professional machines here? Thank you very much

Hello everyone I just joined. I want to build my next workshop out of plastic bricks. There are tons of things before that end result but I figure I start with the end goal in mind. Has anyone here looked at making bricks to later use to make a structure?

BTR

Hello everybody! I just joined this server and I was wondering if anybody knew what would be a good Respirator to wear while Injection Molding plastics?

Hi BTR, You will want to ventilate the fumes out of your work area as much as possible first. I would recommend some venting and a bathroom fan, or something similar. A half mask respirator with organic vapor cartridges will work well for you. Just be sure that the mask fits well. A trick I use is to put sugar water in a spray bottle and have someone spray it at the mask while it is firmly affixed to your face. If you can taste the sugar, it means that you don't have a good fitting mask and it may be the wrong size. Generally, a medium size fits most. Hope this helps!

@Ecovate Thank you for the input! Do you think the 3M brand 2097 filter would be good? Also I intend to do it outside

The 2097 is great for dust and very fine particulate, but will not provide great protection from fumes. I would recommend the 6001 or 6006 for the vapors. Its always nice to have a few of the 2097 pancake filters though. I use them all the time for when I'm sweeping the shop or sanding.

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Hi guys, im looking for some advice for an off grid solar panel set, is someone here in the chat who lives in Portugal in the Castelo Branco region and know some company’s? Thx in advance.

Ecovate

The 2097 is great for dust and very fine particulate, but will not provide great protection from fumes. I would recommend the 6001 or 6006 for the vapors. Its always nice to have a few of the 2097 pancake filters though. I use them all the time for when I'm sweeping the shop or sanding.

Does this look right to you? https://www.amazon.com/3M-Low-Maintenance-Cartridge-Purifying-Respirator/dp/B00AEFCP0E/ref=sr_1_5?crid=9LMJ3UQN44AX&keywords=3m+6006&qid=1658672670&sprefix=3m+6006%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-5

3M Respirator Cartridge 6006, 1 Pair, Helps Protect Against Organic...

3M recommended for ozone protection up to 10X the OSHA PEL or applicable government occupational exposure limits, whichever is lower.

BTR

Does this look right to you? https://www.amazon.com/3M-Low-Maintenance-Cartridge-Purifying-Respirator/dp/B00AEFCP0E/ref=sr_1_5?crid=9LMJ3UQN44AX&keywords=3m+6006&qid=1658672670&sprefix=3m+6006%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-5

Yep, that's the one!

5:34 PM

I forgot to mention, store your mask in a sealed container or bag because the charcoal will react with the air when it's not in use (edited)

Thank you for the information!

Good moorning, ¿any idea for start recycling plastic business with low investment?

8:32 PM

please

MOl97

Good moorning, ¿any idea for start recycling plastic business with low investment?

I have a business plan

9:11 PM

It’s basically how we recycle plastic

9:11 PM

And making new objects

Hey everyone, my name is Alex. I finally got my shredder built today V3.3 14 blade, its pretty rough but it gets the job done with a 5mm sieve. I was wondering if anyone else experienced the two issues I had today.

9:50 PM

sorry first was the problem of micro plastics from the shredding process, second was there was a small amount of metal shavings in the finished plastic, is this normal for a brand new shredder?

Stringerfinger

sorry first was the problem of micro plastics from the shredding process, second was there was a small amount of metal shavings in the finished plastic, is this normal for a brand new shredder?

I think there were still burs left on the knives, my recommendation would be to pull it apart and debur the edges of all the parts so that you have dont have any additional issues. unless of course there is a clearance issue which could result in causing some scraping of the blades.

10:55 PM

Does anyone have any idea about how large recycling companies remove paper labels and adhesives from the plastic? IE water bath? Chemicals? ex..

Water and chemicals

12:02 AM

light hydrochloric acid

MOl97

Good moorning, ¿any idea for start recycling plastic business with low investment?

You can use an oven to melt plastic in and use metal sheets or trays so you can produce sheets. with sheets you can produce all kinds of different products. It's a way to get started with a very limited initial investment, but it takes time to figure out the process.

Stringerfinger

sorry first was the problem of micro plastics from the shredding process, second was there was a small amount of metal shavings in the finished plastic, is this normal for a brand new shredder?

I had a shredder box that wasnt properly put together and it would always leave metal shavings in everything. If you listen to your shredder, you should only be hearing the electrical motor. If you hear other noises like "tsch tsch tsch tsch" then likely something is grinding. You should try disconnecting your coupling between the gearbox and the shredder. Try rotating it by hand and pay attention to where the teeth are.. It could be catching on the top of a knive blade so you would just need to file/grind it down a little bit. The other issue could be that there is misalignment so the blades on the hexbar (the blades that move) are rubbing their sides against the static blades. This means that there is a misalignment.

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Hi people, are there any recordings of any of the online meetings that have happened here on discord? About for example the brick or the injection machine?

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Hi everyone. If I use the injection molder from the precious plastics site, and I want to make my own mold. Does anyone know the specs I need to know for a mold maker. Like the outlet? And the maximum size?

zurek22

Does anyone have any idea about how large recycling companies remove paper labels and adhesives from the plastic? IE water bath? Chemicals? ex..

@zurek22 we use a 99% alcohol soak. Makes it so you can remove most paper labels

@ColdSoup you can find them all here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/create/injection-moulds The inlet depends on your machine then

Creative Climate Investigations: Research Book

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Hi! Thought I'd share with you an exciting book 'Creative Climate Investigations', that regroups eight research project including one on plastics! Have attached screenshots. There's a Kickstarter campaign to help bring it to life and out into the world - thought maybe this would be a good space to spread the word! The campaign is currently 60% funded and has less than two weeks left

As well as having sustainability at the core of the content, sustainability became the driving force for the design and production process of the book. The design has applied circular economy principles/researching where fossil fuel is in design process. Pls message me if you have any questions! Thanks so much

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/climateandcities/creative-climate-investigations-research-book and the insta is: https://www.instagram.com/climateandcities/

Climate and Cities

A sustainably-designed book showcasing the power of creativity to respond to the most urgent challenge of our times.

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Hello. I am Mohammed from Ethiopia. I am happy to be part of this amazing community. I saw a video of precious plastic making bowls from orange peels. I was wondering if I could get the exact measurements and recipe for the bowls. Thank you.

Green_Planet

Hello. I am Mohammed from Ethiopia. I am happy to be part of this amazing community. I saw a video of precious plastic making bowls from orange peels. I was wondering if I could get the exact measurements and recipe for the bowls. Thank you.

Hiya you can find everything on the Academy https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/research/beyondplastic

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Hello, sorry to bother but there is something making me angry. I just found this website yesterday and my mind is blown away by the work this people put into this proyect. There is a seller in Argentina (which is where im from) that sells the documentation from this website and is making money this way. Is that ok? should ii chill? i dont know. PS: i already started to search for parts

pan kiedyś stanął nad brzegiem

2:46 AM

szuukal ludzi gotowych pójść za nim

DonValette

Hello, sorry to bother but there is something making me angry. I just found this website yesterday and my mind is blown away by the work this people put into this proyect. There is a seller in Argentina (which is where im from) that sells the documentation from this website and is making money this way. Is that ok? should ii chill? i dont know. PS: i already started to search for parts

That goes against the whole part of Precious Plastic being open source. The information is available for free. If they're selling machines and parts, that's fine....but....the blueprints? That's a nono

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exactly, only bluprints, and the sonofabitch doenst even print them!!!!!!!!!!! and he steals from many other creators others bps

3:15 AM

im trying to comunicate with support from the website but i dont think i had the luck to talk to some real human

Just got our new line up and running guys

currently producing 600kg of PA6 GF 30 per hour

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Circle of life

Hi Everyone...I have just joined the group here. My name is Claire and I started working at Precious Plastic Mauritius about 7 months ago. I love it! There is so much to do and so many ideas, just not enough hours in the day!

4:53 PM

I have a question for any of you out there who are making beams....we made our beam moulds and so far have made beams in single colours...I would like to know how to put the pellets in the extrusion machine to get a nice pattern in the middle of the beam....is there a special way to do it or it is just trial and error?

Good afternoon, I'm looking for an injector like the one you handle for Bogota, Colombia

9:22 PM

9:23 PM

who can help me thank you for the help

Dago Duit

Good afternoon, I'm looking for an injector like the one you handle for Bogota, Colombia

Hey Gago ! Have you checked out the options on the Bazar https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/ ? You should be able to find & buy these machines with a delivery in Colombia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx_X6fVAEMk

Plastice to sell products, machines, and plastic. Empowering our recycling ecosystem around the world.

Hi everyone, My daughter is working on a Girl Scout Gold Award and is raising money to buy a plastic recycling machine to put it in a school in the Dominican Republic. We got approval for a school up in Urbanizacion Atlantica area. We could use a shredder and an extruder or a machine that makes 3d printing line. Please let us know if you could help by donating or giving us a deep discount. Thank you so much! (edited)

Hey brothers and sisters, I am new with the idea of recycling and I really would love to start my thing, but the problem is with knowing the perfect material and the perfect ratio of adding additives in creating the lumbers or the beams , advises are really appreciated for those areas of concerns: 1- what is the best polymer to use for creating durable outdoor furniture, I once read before that the polymer#2 (HDPE) or #5 PP are the best to be used but here While scrolling in the old messages I saw a guy saying that we must avoid HDPE. 2- leading companies producing recycled outdoor furniture wrote before that they add UV-inhibited pigment and foaming compound and additives to the mixture but I don’t understand specifically what are these things. 3- working with the resulting beams in forming a chair for example is the same as working with wood using the same kits like (saw, drillers, nail, …etc) or there is a different way to work with plastic beams to make furniture. 4- how to color the extruded beams and how to make them having smooth surfaces ? By sanding ??

Hello fellas, i wonder if anyone here has experience with beams made of sand + plastic (could be HDPE or PET) cause I have a project to build 1,8mts beams and use them for Pitahaya

Stouty170

I have a question for any of you out there who are making beams....we made our beam moulds and so far have made beams in single colours...I would like to know how to put the pellets in the extrusion machine to get a nice pattern in the middle of the beam....is there a special way to do it or it is just trial and error?

Welcome to the group here on discord! You'll have to do some trial and error, but to aid your process you can try weighing the plank you have already made so you know how much plastic overall you will need. The first plastic in will spread out far and other colors after will need to spread out and also fill the core of the beam. I have an example

1:25 AM

2

1

1:27 AM

This has been trimmed, but I did add many colors to this but after a while it just fills the core and doesn't touch the outside

1:27 AM

Oscar Cornejo

Hello fellas, i wonder if anyone here has experience with beams made of sand + plastic (could be HDPE or PET) cause I have a project to build 1,8mts beams and use them for Pitahaya

If you're going to be mixing plastics, just keep the non-melting stuff at a lower percentage of the mix. I reccomend not mixing in sand. This will wear down your equipment faster and I question any benefits gained from adding sand. It will make your material heavier, but it doesn't sound so nice when extruding.

Abdelkader

Hey brothers and sisters, I am new with the idea of recycling and I really would love to start my thing, but the problem is with knowing the perfect material and the perfect ratio of adding additives in creating the lumbers or the beams , advises are really appreciated for those areas of concerns: 1- what is the best polymer to use for creating durable outdoor furniture, I once read before that the polymer#2 (HDPE) or #5 PP are the best to be used but here While scrolling in the old messages I saw a guy saying that we must avoid HDPE. 2- leading companies producing recycled outdoor furniture wrote before that they add UV-inhibited pigment and foaming compound and additives to the mixture but I don’t understand specifically what are these things. 3- working with the resulting beams in forming a chair for example is the same as working with wood using the same kits like (saw, drillers, nail, …etc) or there is a different way to work with plastic beams to make furniture. 4- how to color the extruded beams and how to make them having smooth surfaces ? By sanding ??

Lots of questions here. I'll try to be on point and direct. 1. Any untreated plastic is bad. You must use something to reduce UV damage by either painting or mixing in some UV protection (titanium dioxide or carbon black) if extruding. There might be other things you can use but I'm not familiar with them. 2. After A quick googling... Seems like there are pigments that help inhibit UV ray damage. Again, not sure what they are beyond that. The foaming agent... It's difficult to do this with our machines. It's to add air bubbles into the plastic so you use less material and perhaps have a more bendable material. 3. Similar, yes. You can make moulds to make specific shapes with plastic so there's less cutting and shaving of the plastic. I'd avoid nails for furniture or minimally use some that have some features so they don't back out over time. If using screws, don't over torque them. For nails and screws, do use pilot holes. 4. Trade secret. No just kidding, there's a few ways. To color you can simply source the color you want to use (not always easy). If you're extruding, you can mix in iron oxide pigment to modify colors. Titanium dioxide is white but provides UV protection, Carbon Black also provides UV protection but is black. For the UV protection, one absorbs UV rays and the other reflects, be mindful of how dark your colors are since darker will get more hot in the sun. For smooth beams, you need to heat your moulds. Avoid sanding since it's a waste of time and money.

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Hey all, I was wondering if photogrammetry was considered as quick way to get a 3d model of the house?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

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Thanks a lot for your answer Ben and for the pictures. We have made a few bars already but to date they have just been a single colour...I'll start experimenting with some other colours and see what happens then. Thanks a lot.

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jerry de vos

Plastic Scanner - Update #07 - Open Source

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Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Lots of questions here. I'll try to be on point and direct. 1. Any untreated plastic is bad. You must use something to reduce UV damage by either painting or mixing in some UV protection (titanium dioxide or carbon black) if extruding. There might be other things you can use but I'm not familiar with them. 2. After A quick googling... Seems like there are pigments that help inhibit UV ray damage. Again, not sure what they are beyond that. The foaming agent... It's difficult to do this with our machines. It's to add air bubbles into the plastic so you use less material and perhaps have a more bendable material. 3. Similar, yes. You can make moulds to make specific shapes with plastic so there's less cutting and shaving of the plastic. I'd avoid nails for furniture or minimally use some that have some features so they don't back out over time. If using screws, don't over torque them. For nails and screws, do use pilot holes. 4. Trade secret. No just kidding, there's a few ways. To color you can simply source the color you want to use (not always easy). If you're extruding, you can mix in iron oxide pigment to modify colors. Titanium dioxide is white but provides UV protection, Carbon Black also provides UV protection but is black. For the UV protection, one absorbs UV rays and the other reflects, be mindful of how dark your colors are since darker will get more hot in the sun. For smooth beams, you need to heat your moulds. Avoid sanding since it's a waste of time and money.

So informative, Thank you so much for your effort, really appreciated.

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Are there any good videos on figuring out how much plastic I would need? Math is not a strong point for me so I'm looking for a well-explained breakdown.

Hello Everyone, I have just joined the group here. My name is Rahul, and I am working on a recycling project in India.

12:14 PM

I am facing lots of issues while making sheets from the sheet press machine, thickness variation is major issue .

12:18 PM

if I make a sheet of 6 mm, thickness variation is in all over the sheet, someplace it will be 10mm and some 3mm,

12:19 PM

it will be great if anyone can help me to solve this major problem .

Rahul vashukhi

it will be great if anyone can help me to solve this major problem .

Do you have some picture of your sheet-press and your moulds ? Porosity is generally directly related with the plastic source quality, but thickness regularity generally depends on the machines and the moulds.

Aloha from Hawaii, My name is Josh, and my team and I are operating precious plastics machines as a part of an art activism initiative. I am wondering what you all use for PPE. We wear 3M vapor masks, welding gloves, safety glasses, and close-toed shoes. I am looking for coveralls for my team to wear to avoid injury. Is anyone on here wearing fire-resistant coveralls? I know we should not wear polyester, but are there other tips you can give me? All help is appreciated!

Aloha Josh! I've been thinking about that same question and was wondering if military surplus coveralls might work. There are many types and a lot of them are flame-resistant, and you can often get them at a discount and help prevent more new ones being made at the same time, win-win!

Thank you! I will check them out

gonzo

Aloha from Hawaii, My name is Josh, and my team and I are operating precious plastics machines as a part of an art activism initiative. I am wondering what you all use for PPE. We wear 3M vapor masks, welding gloves, safety glasses, and close-toed shoes. I am looking for coveralls for my team to wear to avoid injury. Is anyone on here wearing fire-resistant coveralls? I know we should not wear polyester, but are there other tips you can give me? All help is appreciated!

With PPE you can use surgical masks they are light blue remove the straps because they are nylon a different polymer

gonzo

Aloha from Hawaii, My name is Josh, and my team and I are operating precious plastics machines as a part of an art activism initiative. I am wondering what you all use for PPE. We wear 3M vapor masks, welding gloves, safety glasses, and close-toed shoes. I am looking for coveralls for my team to wear to avoid injury. Is anyone on here wearing fire-resistant coveralls? I know we should not wear polyester, but are there other tips you can give me? All help is appreciated!

PPE can be melted in an extruder just make sure your not burning the plastic

Does anyone have a good table for correct speeds and temperatures to make beams? I’ve been extruding them for a while but can’t seem to nail down a good mix

Wumangklan

Does anyone have a good table for correct speeds and temperatures to make beams? I’ve been extruding them for a while but can’t seem to nail down a good mix

I set my shredder pro to 10 (max setting). 30 minutes for 3kg and im constantly pushing down material into the feeder. What do your results look like for your beams? There's a few things that might cause problems like using HDPE blow instead of HDPE injection, not heating your mould, going too big, going too small...etc etc...

The molds seem to fill up extremely slow? Maybe im not giving it enough time, I have my motor speed about 20-30, and temp right around 280-290. I have blocking you give resistance to the plastic filling up the mold just not having a ton of luck at the moment

hi

12:35 AM

im from Mexico

when is #OpenArmy #PreciousPlastic going to introduce a Plastic Bottle to PET filament extruder, in similar way shown here and in other places, https://hackaday.com/2021/06/29/petbot-turn-pet-bottles-into-filament/

Danie Conradie

PetBot: Turn PET Bottles Into Filament

Recycling plastic into filament normally involves chopping it into tiny pieces and pushing it through a screw extruder. [JRT3D] is taking a different approach with PetBot, which cuts PET bottles in…

10:45 AM

this owuld be extremely usefully to the community & throughout the world

10:46 AM

and combine alot of problems into one solvable practice we as indivudals and small teams can achieve by ourselves

Well? Why am I not getting any response to this? @Precious Plastic

QuakerOates

Well? Why am I not getting any response to this? @Precious Plastic

Not everyone here is answering within a few minutes!

10:56 AM

Either way I think there is no need that PP designs something like this. There are already enough open source designs available. No need to re-invent the wheel

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Well, i don't agree with that statement.

10:59 AM

The reason I follow PP is due to their open source approach, methodical testing and then releasing to the masses a solution that works. That works very well... (edited)

11:00 AM

I think PP input into this will be of benefit to this planet.

11:05 AM

PET Bottles to Filament solutions, lack the end quality. Its great outcome, but end filament lacks quality, its that quality that i think PP can UP with their expertise. I have a simple idea how the filament can be improve by orders of magnitude, but lack resource for tests.

@DataWorm (PP Berlin) am not trying to be a flamer, so hope you are not offended. Just pushing the subject onto someone's lap here that would take this up in PP

It's fine, I am not offended. The approach of the pet bottle extruder is different to general filament extrusion and I am not sure if the current approach can be improved so much. For a proper solution I think we would rather have to work with the approaches of general extruders (which actually melt the plastic instead of softening it) and optimize it for filament extrusion (by adding tools that ensure a consistent diameter)

yea kinda gather that as possible problem...

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There is always unfortunately limits to what pp or any organisation can do and create- a big one is cost, another is time and people to do the work. They get suggestions of what to do next and what resources people want- they have to look at each and decide how much use it will provide to the masses of people making all sorts of things with access to all different sorts of plastic across the world and choose those than will provide the most value to the most people

@Meg i think you can see that the PEG bottle to filament solution is one of the least time consuming and cost effective projects to under-take. So your aforementioned conversation above doesn't hold up or float to well in water. IN other words I see the point your trying to make but I believe you and all here see the solution is quite straight forward to implement with very little hassle or costs.

@QuakerOates why feel entitled to a response, im sure people have a life/other duties to tend to outside of the discord. while it is nice of you to bring a suggestion or idea to the table; it would help to be patient and not feel entitled to a response. they will get to you when they can, if they feel like it. you can always do your own thing, rather than pushing it on @Precious Plastic ..enjoy your day

my wooden mold broke

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im making a new on

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Good day everyone

8:09 PM

I was curious about after the plastic is made into pellet's, how is it processed into things?

8:12 PM

I'm certainly learning from the previous comments lol.

So, if I'm following the info correctly on the website, does this mean that the plastic is not heated in any way? It's mulched and then pressed to make things?

LOL now I did see the melting, I suppose I should have waited before asking.

lw

what does lw mean?

@ZenFitSteph A great overview of the whole process (including the basics of how the plastic industry works) can be found in the Academy: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy

https://youtu.be/PLiHF8iA8iA

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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thanks so much

QuakerOates

when is #OpenArmy #PreciousPlastic going to introduce a Plastic Bottle to PET filament extruder, in similar way shown here and in other places, https://hackaday.com/2021/06/29/petbot-turn-pet-bottles-into-filament/

Check the 3d print channel. @Josh - JRT3D.com is actually a member here too...

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QuakerOates

when is #OpenArmy #PreciousPlastic going to introduce a Plastic Bottle to PET filament extruder, in similar way shown here and in other places, https://hackaday.com/2021/06/29/petbot-turn-pet-bottles-into-filament/

JRT3D

The Recreator 3D - MK5Kit : Ender3 - DIY Build Notes - PET#1 Filam...

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QuakerOates

and combine alot of problems into one solvable practice we as indivudals and small teams can achieve by ourselves

Check out this group I run on Facebook

4:34 AM

https://www.facebook.com/groups/petpultrudersunited

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See posts, photos and more on Facebook.

4:35 AM

https://discord.gg/vn2CH72bMq

Invite to join a server

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4:36 AM

PET Pultruders United is a group for all pultruders available where everyone can talk about their builds freely

4:36 AM

The Recreator 3D is DIY Free build that is based around the notes I've released so there is a community around those directions

Hello people, I need your help. I have this thermal garment and I need you to help me know how much hdp talk I need and its time and temperature I have done some tests and it has not worked for me, if anyone could help me I would appreciate it very much.

Hello, I have a project in Brazil that transforms plastic into decorative panels @ratoroi. I'm in need of a better silicone oil than I use for easy demolding, I believe a little thicker should help. Does anyone have any industrial indications that are easy to find? Or might a car wax be the best solution? We're using a 1,000 silicone emulsion and it's still sticking. What thickness do you use? (edited)

Hello, who do I get in contnact with to partner with PPR?

Folks,anyone here have sheet press?

I have a bottle jack press

A while back I've started modelling the old building for project camp but something happened to the file

10:23 PM

btw Ive seen the latest ep and that made me remember..

10:23 PM

I am a pro sketchup user I could help..

How long does it take for shipping ?

Alex_recycles and creates

How long does it take for shipping ?

?

10:25 PM

10:26 PM

Some of my modelling in sketchup but the outcome is rendered in other software

MASE

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Im not talking to you

10:59 PM

I ordered a Shredder on Monday and I'm wondering how long it will take to ship

good evening, I think I've found a broken link in the

website, but not sure where to report that. can anyone let me know? on https://community.projectkamp.com/academy/basekamp/container page the link for the schematics of the containers under plug and play title is not working for me.

@kaphtar the same issue here, we need to wait for someone fix it

oscar enrique

Hello people, I need your help. I have this thermal garment and I need you to help me know how much hdp talk I need and its time and temperature I have done some tests and it has not worked for me, if anyone could help me I would appreciate it very much.

It's difficult to answer your question. But I'd set the machine to 190C. Time needed depends on your thickness. You need a mould/frame to keep the plastic in. You can calculate how much material you need by figuring out your volume. X * Y* Z (10cm x 10cm x 0.2cm) = 20cc. 1cc of HDPE = ~0.96g. 20cc * 0.96 = yaa well just less than 20g. It's never exact, you need to do some trials to see what works.

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Alex_recycles and creates

I ordered a Shredder on Monday and I'm wondering how long it will take to ship

You'll need to have a talk with whoever sold you the shredder

Gallon

Folks,anyone here have sheet press?

Yes we do, we just got it and tested it yesterday. But we made 2 sheets and they came out pretty good

Vincmer

Yes we do, we just got it and tested it yesterday. But we made 2 sheets and they came out pretty good

I wanted to buy some sheets for one project but for some reason sheets are expensive as hell. How long does it take to produce one 1x1m sheet with it? And is it worth the money in general? I've seen people selling 1kg of shredded plastic for 10euros and sheet costs 60 euros

Ours are 100x80x1,5 cm and they take 11 kg of HDPE. And the total process is like 4 ours a sheet.

4:47 PM

We immediately sold the first one to an artist for 80 euros

How much would it cost if i wanted tu buy one 2-3 mm thick?

I sell 44 x 44 x 1cm sheets (2kg) for around 8-9 euros. But last I checked, shipping anything from Indonesia is quite expensive.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

You'll need to have a talk with whoever sold you the shredder

Never mind they said Tuesday I looked yesterday

6:42 PM

Does anyone make iPhone stands ?

Hello all- Im back with another sheet press question! I am looking into purchasing the rock wool insulation for the sheet press. Is there a preferred r-value of insulation for the sheet press? It comes in R15, R32 etc etc. I would like to just purchase the cheapest option but wanted to check in here first.

Hello! I am new to Precious Plastic, and I’m in the planning stage of building an extrusion machine. I was wondering if it would be feasible to program the PID controller using arduino. If anyone else has tried this, I would appreciate any insight you may have

Hey I got a question is there currently any machine capable of taking waste plastic and making thread out of it?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Lots of questions here. I'll try to be on point and direct. 1. Any untreated plastic is bad. You must use something to reduce UV damage by either painting or mixing in some UV protection (titanium dioxide or carbon black) if extruding. There might be other things you can use but I'm not familiar with them. 2. After A quick googling... Seems like there are pigments that help inhibit UV ray damage. Again, not sure what they are beyond that. The foaming agent... It's difficult to do this with our machines. It's to add air bubbles into the plastic so you use less material and perhaps have a more bendable material. 3. Similar, yes. You can make moulds to make specific shapes with plastic so there's less cutting and shaving of the plastic. I'd avoid nails for furniture or minimally use some that have some features so they don't back out over time. If using screws, don't over torque them. For nails and screws, do use pilot holes. 4. Trade secret. No just kidding, there's a few ways. To color you can simply source the color you want to use (not always easy). If you're extruding, you can mix in iron oxide pigment to modify colors. Titanium dioxide is white but provides UV protection, Carbon Black also provides UV protection but is black. For the UV protection, one absorbs UV rays and the other reflects, be mindful of how dark your colors are since darker will get more hot in the sun. For smooth beams, you need to heat your moulds. Avoid sanding since it's a waste of time and money.

@jensdb i responded to those questions in this channel as I saw them here first but they were posted in multiple channels

Hey I like to start a business using plastic waste in India can you guys help me plzzz

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

@jensdb i responded to those questions in this channel as I saw them here first but they were posted in multiple channels

Thanks, i found your answers!!

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were can I find the file for the 3.3 version shredder ?

Alex_recycles and creates

were can I find the file for the 3.3 version shredder ?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to

sijo sam

Hey I like to start a business using plastic waste in India can you guys help me plzzz

Did you get a response

Hello, I've made a couple of plastick/sand bricks

, I have a big extruder machine, does anyone has experience with the screw? If it gets destroy if I use sand ?

9:32 PM

9:33 PM

The one in the middle is a normal brick of concrete

Oscar Cornejo

Hello, I've made a couple of plastick/sand bricks

, I have a big extruder machine, does anyone has experience with the screw? If it gets destroy if I use sand ?

Their is a women who does this in Kenya

Yep, there's actually a couple of people doing that but today a friend told that the struder needs to have a special screw

Oscar Cornejo

Hello, I've made a couple of plastick/sand bricks

, I have a big extruder machine, does anyone has experience with the screw? If it gets destroy if I use sand ?

The barrel and screw will wear out faster. I cannot say how much faster but it would be similar to rubbing sand paper over everything, so over time it will wear out faster than using just plastic.

2:51 PM

You need to answer some questions... like... Why are you adding sand to the plastic? Do you have to add sand to the plastic? Is it worth doing?

MMM yes, I need it to lowering the prices of the bricks, cause the price of sand per kg is 0.001 dollar

and shredded HDPE or PET, 0.3 dollars and with sand it could have more resistance?

Oscar Cornejo

Hello, I've made a couple of plastick/sand bricks

, I have a big extruder machine, does anyone has experience with the screw? If it gets destroy if I use sand ?

From an extrusion / mixing point of view, I can't help. But yes, putting sand in the extruder will damage the material faster, ideally you want to change the mild steel for a wear resistant steel or a special coating (like inconel screws, or inconel cladded barrels).

2:55 PM

How much sand do you add to the plastic mix ?

@Oscar Cornejo What's your mix ratio and what type of plastic are you using with these sand bricks?

2:55 PM

It's very interesting !

2:56 PM

Oh i just see that Yann asked haha

75% sand + 25% HDPE, in the north of Peru we have plenty of HDPE plastic bags because of the Bananas and rice husk...

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Who nice, that is a lot of sand !

What's your extruder capacity per hour?

That mix has a 145kg/cm2

2:58 PM

Pressure resistance

And did you compare that to 100% recycled plastic produced with the same extruder ?

Joseph

What's your extruder capacity per hour?

MMM 100kg/ hour full of plastic

2:59 PM

I don't want to destroyed the extruder so that's why I'm asking cause I watch the videos from Africa

2:59 PM

And they seem to be interesting

but the real question if it really works ?

Yes, we are trying to figure out the same things. Also trying to understand if it has more value that just a lower price (maybe also better compression, UV, fire resistance...). You can join this channel if not done yet : #archived-brick-dev

I've just discovered the channel yesterday, I will do some test this week cause I need to build 1000 beams of 2mts x 12cm *12cm

@Oscar Cornejo do you use sand to reduce the cost of the product?

To grow dragon fruit and It will be wonderful if we can do it with recycles Plastic instead of just concrete

Joseph

@Oscar Cornejo do you use sand to reduce the cost of the product?

Yep, and because my dad it's afraid about the resistance of the beams if they don't have sand

3:04 PM

Or should I use PP? So it can be strong ? Cause we also have pp from

grapes plastic bags

How do you plan to use them ? PP has slightly better tensile strength than HDPE, but is also slightly more rigid (and then brittle).

3:10 PM

Compression wise, from testing that have been done on bricks, PP has better properties (around 200 N/mm2 for PP to 80 N/mm2 for HDPE)

3:11 PM

But this will vary a lot depending on your source, cleanliness, process etc...

Wish there was a place I could order a custom PET bench! I saw some of the Brothers Make stuff but unfortunately they're too far from where I live. And the production costs are super high so like I couldn't even afford it anyways

2:45 AM

But yeah

2:45 AM

Those benches are rad

Hi guys, is there some kind of book about plastic recycling or building a plastic business available that is interesting to read ? If yes, which ones do you recommend?

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HI, I was wondering what motor I should use for my shredder any suggestions! please help

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Hey Guys! Who is up to apply to this call? https://www.ungm.org/Public/Notice/178933 I think PP community fits pretty well @Joseph (edited)

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

Hey Guys! Who is up to apply to this call? https://www.ungm.org/Public/Notice/178933 I think PP community fits pretty well @Joseph (edited)

Wow! super interesting

6:42 PM

I'm down let's do it @Mettodo | Njombe Beyond !

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Do we have any grant writers on here that want to help?

1:43 PM

Folks, does anyone know are there sheets like this available to buy somewhere? It's rattan imitationim guessing it's molded but i cant seem to find sheets for sale

Hi All, hope you are doing great. We want to start our own sheet press business. How much do you have to invest in a state of the art Sheet Press Machine with sheets 3000mm x 1200mm ? Is there also a support team that could help with building and installing the final machine and make some training session to hand over the machine? How much budget we should calculate for it? Thank you

raghav_roxx

Click to see attachment 🖼️

that is made from Plastic? HOW?

Yo

8:15 PM

Is the job still open

8:15 PM

For product manager ?

hello

2:35 AM

anyone here

2:35 AM

??

I am here in this channel!

Joseph

Do we have any grant writers on here that want to help?

I´m up for it. The first step is this:

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

I´m up for it. The first step is this:

@Joseph can you send that? Is PP legally registered somewhere as an NGO? (edited)

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

@Joseph can you send that? Is PP legally registered somewhere as an NGO? (edited)

Yup we are non profit in NL

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8:17 AM

I will prepare the expression of interest

Hi everyone! I just watched the One Army video on the Mercedes 609 conversion and Dave mentions in the video that he got it from a german government sale. Does anyone have extra information on where to find those? The image from the website with 10 similar vans is exactly what I am looking for !

There has been no recent posts in the extruder chat. Anyone here knowledgeable about the extruder pro?

Joseph

I will prepare the expression of interest

Do you have any preferred platform to work on the proposal?

Mettodo | Njombe Beyond

Do you have any preferred platform to work on the proposal?

yup ill DM

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Hi everyone!

9:42 AM

Has anyone tried making walls with these recycled bricks?

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luku

Has anyone tried making walls with these recycled bricks?

Love this

Hi, I have a question about the 1x1m receicled roof sheets. It says that the sheets are UV resistant. How long would they last in a tropical climate (Indonesia). Is there research done on this? Thank you

Neat video about a Kenyan company making beautiful art from beach waste: https://youtu.be/GK-BHZs7GxE

Business Insider

How Flip-Flop Art Helps Clean Kenya's Beaches | World Wide Waste | ...

Hello, I am a Korean university student. I want to upcycle using styrofoam (woodlock). I know that if you put Woodlock in acetone, it becomes ingot. I'd like to proceed further here. Since I am a university student, I have to work at a low level, so there is a limit to using the machine. How can I use the ingot with acetone? I'm going to finally make a chair.

12:52 AM

Can I make a hard plate like a chair using styrofoam without a machine? Since it's an architecture club, can I add architectural model materials (acrylic, wooden boards, etc.)?

민현민현

Can I make a hard plate like a chair using styrofoam without a machine? Since it's an architecture club, can I add architectural model materials (acrylic, wooden boards, etc.)?

You can use wood for a mold to make a HDPE ingot

Alex_recycles and creates

You can use wood for a mold to make a HDPE ingot

Oh! If I dissolve Styrofoam in acetone, does it become HDPE?

민현민현

Oh! If I dissolve Styrofoam in acetone, does it become HDPE?

no, styrofoam is EPS (expanded polyestryrene) and if you remove the air will simply be PS

Hello my name is Mayur Patil from INDIA i am 18 years old student and want to recycle plastic and i also have made small sheared, i also have two 3d printers ! right now need some help with my sheareder in it electronics part is reaming is anyone willing to help? needed suggestion for motor and gearbox

3:41 PM

please anyone>?

I dont think they are UV resistant. Where are you getting your sheets from? Longevity will depend on thickness and if UV protection is used. The climate here isn't a problem unless it's always sunny and there's no protection. You might have several years of use and a few issues of things warping over time and perhaps the surface is faded and broken down a little due to the sun.

who rejected my pin ??

never mind

Hello, my name is Cedric, I'm from the Philippines. I'm a college student conducting a research about using LDPE plastics as a filament in 3d printers. I have watched youtube videos about using plastics, mostly HDPE, and I'm curious if it will work and is the process same with using LDPEs (specifically plastic bags/pouches used by online shops). Thank you! (edited)

luku

Hi everyone!

Project Kamp did one in there container! Dont know which episode but quite at the beginning

I like the discussion about plastics! Ask me anything...

@Oscar Cornejo Do you have hard nut shells or chopped fiber at a good price? These can lower the cost but not damage the extruder.

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Alex_recycles and creates

Love this

Thanks

chrisonaut

Project Kamp did one in there container! Dont know which episode but quite at the beginning

Could you please share some more information about them? I would love to learn from them.

Hello Are you familiar with Solar plastic recycling ? (https://www.instagram.com/sunfactory_pt/)

hello

6:16 PM

where in portugal are you guys located ?

in 3 weeks i go to Portugal again

6:24 PM

we build a house on land we rented

6:25 PM

one of my sons stays now in Portugal quarding it

we stay near gouveia

6:33 PM

we stay in Sao Paio

6:34 PM

and on the trip you guys make chasing wild fire i see a road sign Gouveia so i asume your some where in the area

anyone in Porto?

Hi everyone, nice to meet you

Monkey

where in portugal are you guys located ?

Near Tocha Beach

ah thats 172 km from gouveia

Привет! волонтеры Черногории ищут друзей в Адриатике для общения!

11:34 PM

Dear all! We are the «Green Adriatic», a community of Russian-speaking environmental activists and volunteers in Montenegro. We come from different countries, but we are united by the desire to reduce the amount of garbage on the planet. We chat here: https://t.me/ecomontenegro We stand for the extraction of recyclable waste at the point of origin and it’s further recycling. Our target is Zero Waste. We would like that as many people as possible generate as little waste as possible. And, anything that can be recycled is recycled. We hold public space cleaning campaigns in order to attract attention to the problem of environmental pollution and to initiate systematic collaboration with everyone interested. Many of us have extensive experience in organizing various events to promote the topic of separate waste collection in their countries. And we would like to share this experience in Montenegro. We are open to cooperation with all the interested persons and organizations:

With officials and deputies
With commercial companies
With public organizations
With educational institutions
With citizens of different countries. We believe that Montenegro is the best place to become an environmentally friendly pearl of the Adriatic. And all eco-activists would like to be a part of this process.

Переработка мусора Черногория

Ссылка на наш канал https://t.me/RSO_MNE Новых участников можно пригласить по ссылке: t.me/ecomontenegro Группа для Бара https://t.me/ecobarmontenegro Группа сапов и акции Чистый четверг https://t.me/supMonte

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Hi, I've just joined "Precious Plastics" as a machine builder, I've downloaded the plans but can't open them. Are the plans available in PDF format, cheers.

xtreme rhino

Hi, I've just joined "Precious Plastics" as a machine builder, I've downloaded the plans but can't open them. Are the plans available in PDF format, cheers.

yes, where did you download them from?

xtreme rhino

Hi, I've just joined "Precious Plastics" as a machine builder, I've downloaded the plans but can't open them. Are the plans available in PDF format, cheers.

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to?category=Machines

Fascinating new research has unlocked a new (to me?) way to recycle PLA! https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/some-day-well-be-recycling-wind-turbine-blades-into-yummy-gummy-bears/ (edited)

Some day we’ll be recycling wind turbine blades into yummy gummy be...

Recyclable polymer resin could also be used for car taillights, diapers, kitchen sinks.

Hello, You may not be familiar with plastic recycling with solar thermal energy. Precious Plastic Best Machine Hack Award 2020 After two years of use, we were able to pass on our knowledge and make some plans for a larger scale production. Sun Factory's mission is to distribute and set up a production of plastic recycling using solar energy. To achieve its mission Sun Factory needs your help. https://gofund.me/35da255a This link gives you the opportunity to take part in the development of this wonderful project.

Spread Solar Plastic Recycling, organized by Marco

Hello! We are friends of solar-powered plastic recycling. A group of passionate engineers, natu… Marco needs your support for Spread Solar Plastic Recycling

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Can any1 tell me how much it costs for the equipment to start a plastic recycling company

Has anyone thought about selling a complete kit to build them?

Oscar Cornejo

Hello everyone, i have a small struder and i want yo melt HDPE from plastic bags, cause we have big issues with the banano bags, and I need to know the temperature that I need to melt them :) thank you

How its goes? Where are you based?

Hi guys, I am a Masters student and am conducting research into plastic recycling businesses with a view to implementing a Social Enterprise for a community in rural Liberia. I need some help to inform my research further. The survey will take less than 5 minutes and the link is below. Appreciate the help if you can fill it out! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfb-wWpbtkb-SU6RvwisdLDd1X54Eu2fV19kNEqvGITgvntMg/viewform?usp=sf_link

The business of plastic recycling - A study

This study will be used to inform research into plastic recycling for the development of a Social Enterprise that can work alongside existing projects in Liberia. The information will be for research purposes only. Feel free to message or email me with any questions. Your help is much appreciated. Thank you Harry Vine harry.vine139@gmail...

johnmccall2007

Can any1 tell me how much it costs for the equipment to start a plastic recycling company

It depends on what machines you want to use and where you get them from.

Hi everyone. I am new here, and i would like to learn a bit before I launch myself into the plastic recycling business. I was wondering, what is the best alloy for the barrel of an extruder? Thank in advance. JJ from cuba

I always wanted to establish a residence somewhere far from existing society and start everything up from the beginning. Found this channel today, hope I'm gonna learn few more thing and maybe practically implement my idea.

Does anyone know what’s going on ?

7:41 PM

Their is a discord chat called OSR plastics

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I always wanted to establish a residence somewhere far from existing society and start everything up from the beginning. Found this channel today, hope I'm gonna learn few more thing and maybe practically implement my idea.

There's quite a few of us in 20s or 30s who want to move away from the city. I'm following a few channels like Project Kamp and the idea sounds exciting. Biggest downside for me is internet speeds, but I would probably shift my hobbies into something healthier anyway

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11:37 AM

There's something very rewarding about working with your hands

Hello, I've picked up a precious plastic micro light twin shredder (https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/shredder/shredder-kits/micro-light-twin-shaft-shredder/) I'm wondering if anyone has experience with this as it shreds but the pieces are not very small. I see the larger shredders have a sieve you can add. Has anyone used a similar outfit for their micro shredder?

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Butte (PP Philippines)

So, on the machine builder business side of things. 2020 was a disaster, but all of a sudden last couple weeks, got a lot of shredder orders from local governments. Despite not paying the kickbacks or bribes that our local competition is doing. The additional sales, a solar project, and some donations is funding our plastic agglomeration research project. Our idea is to use a pellet mill machine to mold films into pellets for molding. Since plastic is amaphorous, and can fuse with friction at lower temps, it is looking like we can feed the already shred films into the pellet mill. We also have a tentative project to build a custom preciousplastic v3 machine with reels to feed continuous rolls of plastic films into the shredder. These plastic films are used up transfer printing material, similar to carbon paper. The printing is on money and check serial numbers. The machine will need a extra special build as they will need to shred 1000+ rolls a month which comes out to somewhere around 750 kilos. Then we will attempt to pelletize it and process into plant pots.

Hi Butte, I am interested to know where you guys are up to with an agglomerator machine? I am finding that the majority of plastic pollutant in my context (indonesia) is soft plastics, packaging, bags etc. Harder plastics are valued by collectors but bags and the like are not. To make a feasible dent in this situation development to address soft plastics is necessary. How and is PP progressing with this?

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Hello, my name is Cedric, I'm from the Philippines. I'm a college student conducting a research about using LDPE plastics as a filament in 3d printers. I have watched youtube videos about using plastics, mostly HDPE, and I'm curious if it will work and is the process same with using LDPEs (specifically plastic bags/pouches used by online shops). Thank you! (edited)

no, LDPE has shrinkage issues

Geoff (PBI NTB)

Hi Butte, I am interested to know where you guys are up to with an agglomerator machine? I am finding that the majority of plastic pollutant in my context (indonesia) is soft plastics, packaging, bags etc. Harder plastics are valued by collectors but bags and the like are not. To make a feasible dent in this situation development to address soft plastics is necessary. How and is PP progressing with this?

The Philippines design aggolomerator is a total waste of time. It uses a full propane tank of gas per batch, and produces a disgusting stinky rubbery material that can rot because it is full of veg oil. I was given a sample of it by that guy in the YT videos and it smelled so bad, I had to stop and remove it from the trunk of the car and throw away after only 30 min into the trip. It will not get the plastic hot enough to cook out all the bad odors unlike a extrusion machine. there are agglomerators that do work, but the Philippines design is not one of them.

2:44 AM

I have been doing a ton of research on the commercial film and foam agglomerators. I managed to find an Italian company that showed a internal CAD drawing of the interior. It worked essentially how I had theorized last year without seeing the insides of a unit in operation. It essentially is a industrial device that works like a food processor. with blades similar to circular saw blades that spin very fast. it uses some water to cool the plastic and lubricate it. much as you would add water to your blender to blend veggies into a smoothie.

2:47 AM

i am theorizing that one could build a agglomerator/granulator by using a propane tank as the barrel, large circular saw blades mounted like a food blender, and spinning it at at least 2000 rpm. 3 to 5hp maybe, you would get a slurry of shredded plastic which then you would need to run thru a spin drier to de-water it. It is workable, but at the moment outside my financial capability to develop.

Butte (PP Philippines)

i am theorizing that one could build a agglomerator/granulator by using a propane tank as the barrel, large circular saw blades mounted like a food blender, and spinning it at at least 2000 rpm. 3 to 5hp maybe, you would get a slurry of shredded plastic which then you would need to run thru a spin drier to de-water it. It is workable, but at the moment outside my financial capability to develop.

Yes, I see the chinese made ones look like they work pretty fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGAMzOJh9MY With spinning blades and fixed blades. Not sure the distance between the two, but the blades could be made using automotive leaf springs (metal). I think one would need a whole system of chop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bJinFXlYW8 wash, dry then agglomerate. The chinese design one above only uses water to condense.

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second video is same as my granulator. 9 moving blades 2 fixed, and I use waterjet cut ar500 armor plate. first video is the big food processor type. that motor on it is HUGE

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Butte (PP Philippines)

I have been doing a ton of research on the commercial film and foam agglomerators. I managed to find an Italian company that showed a internal CAD drawing of the interior. It worked essentially how I had theorized last year without seeing the insides of a unit in operation. It essentially is a industrial device that works like a food processor. with blades similar to circular saw blades that spin very fast. it uses some water to cool the plastic and lubricate it. much as you would add water to your blender to blend veggies into a smoothie.

one thing i noticed is nobody uses a proper blade,most use something thats closer to a paddle than a blade,to my understanding,the part of the blade mounted on the barrel itself is what does the cutting

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but what im unsure about is if its consistent because certain models show blades both on the rotor and barrel,some only on the rotor and some only on barrel

12:18 PM

i guess the one with the rotor mounted blades will work best

12:18 PM

and be simplest

sponsoons

one thing i noticed is nobody uses a proper blade,most use something thats closer to a paddle than a blade,to my understanding,the part of the blade mounted on the barrel itself is what does the cutting

Yeah @sponsoons I was thinking a couple of fixed blades might be good too.

Butte (PP Philippines)

second video is same as my granulator. 9 moving blades 2 fixed, and I use waterjet cut ar500 armor plate. first video is the big food processor type. that motor on it is HUGE

Do you use your machine for chopping/shredding soft plastics/bags/packaging? What is the result?

@👮Moderator maybe remove the steam link? doesnt seem valid to me

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SilverServerT

@👮Moderator maybe remove the steam link? doesnt seem valid to me

Yeah, it's a generic scam; I recommend blocking that user.

Hi everyone, I am Raul from an NGO in Barcleona (Andromines). We have a shredder for a couple of years and now we have some leak oil problems. At the moment the machine works well, but last day we have a message of oil in the machine. I was wondering how i could fix de problem, as I am not sure if I can open the motors and replace the oil or something like that, any suggestion?

https://youtube.com/shorts/fvZ0gXwdxfM Miss Maricel is inspecting our injection molded soap cases today.

preparing product

https://youtube.com/shorts/V_KIBxqeLB4 flame polishing after trimming the flash from the parts

flame polishing

Goldenghost10

I have 2.25kg of PLA 3d Printing filament that I would like recycled. My local recycling company does not take it. Would I be able to send it to someone to reprocess it back into 1.75mm filament reels. I will clean the filament. As long as it is a decent price, I will send it. <$50. I am located in PA, USA.

Did you find anyone? I've got about 136 kg in the Boston area. Not needing it back, just a receptive new home for PLA.

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5:28 AM

You only pay shipping

5:28 AM

Based out of North Dakota

Hi has anyone setup plastic recycling workshop in UK , can someone guide me with the process and regulation.I want to setup a workshop but have no idea on regulations. Does anyone know of any good solicitors and accountant top help me setup a workspace

I’m a self-taught jewelry artist living in norway. I work as a high school teacher in Design, Art and Crafts. I create jewelry from recycled plastic combined with sterling silver. I was wondering if there was anybody else here who does the same and what is your experience?

@krisomyjewelry someone just posted some jewelry in the #archived-showcase channel!

Graveheist

@krisomyjewelry someone just posted some jewelry in the #archived-showcase channel!

Thanks for tip, but can`t see any showcase channel. Do you have a link to it.

krisomyjewelry

Thanks for tip, but can`t see any showcase channel. Do you have a link to it.

You'll need to go to #👋start-here and react with the clap emoji to get access to the showcase channel!

9:59 PM

It gives you a role that unlocks a lot of other pp channels as well

10:00 PM

Your jewelry is lovely, by the way!

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krisomyjewelry

I’m a self-taught jewelry artist living in norway. I work as a high school teacher in Design, Art and Crafts. I create jewelry from recycled plastic combined with sterling silver. I was wondering if there was anybody else here who does the same and what is your experience?

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PP Philippines will be joining with the Lighthouse foundation and Coke for the 2022 international coastal cleanup on Sept 17

hello?

Graveheist

You'll need to go to #👋start-here and react with the clap emoji to get access to the showcase channel!

Thanks for your guidance!

Any time!

Hi! I am looking for a shredder machine. Can anyone help me ? I am in Italy. thanks.

Good Morning. I just found the page of precious plastics. I am interested in the compression machine, the initial version with the press inside the oven, and I would like to know if it is possible to have the plans for its construction. I find only the blueprints for version v.2.0. Thanks in advance. Greetings.

In which thread should we ask questions about extruding beams with the extruder?

Emanuel Jicmon

Hi! I am looking for a shredder machine. Can anyone help me ? I am in Italy. thanks.

Hello! I recommend looking on the Bazar: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/ Or looking for nearby machine shops (the wrench icon) on the map: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

https://goo.gl/maps/ApyPYedpauprp8vD8

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

PMS

Good Morning. I just found the page of precious plastics. I am interested in the compression machine, the initial version with the press inside the oven, and I would like to know if it is possible to have the plans for its construction. I find only the blueprints for version v.2.0. Thanks in advance. Greetings.

This how-to has blueprints for an upgraded 2.1 compression machine: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/compression-machine-21

Compression machine 2.1

This upgrade will make your compression machine way more efficient and streamlined. Off you go!

tom.deweyer

In which thread should we ask questions about extruding beams with the extruder?

It depends on the nature of the questions -- if they're more extruder-specific you can ask in #archived-machines , or if they're about the beams themselves or type of plastic then #archived-plastic or #archived-products-and-moulds would be more appropriate. If you don't yet have access to those channels, head over to #👋start-here and react with the Support emoji to unlock them!

Ok thanks

Hello all!

Hello guys !!

Does someone know where the kamp is located, like the region in portugal in wich they are ?

Hi my name is tadesse from ethiopia i made my extruder loking prisues plastic vidio and i use my motor 3kw but my controler say over load is 3 kw motor not enough for previos extruder?

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Does someone know where the kamp is located, like the region in portugal in wich they are ?

Project Kamp · Treixedo, Portugal

★★★★★ · Community center

Thx

Hi all. I attempted to fill a void using plastic and it left gaps. I don’t have a heat gun, so I tried an iron. Is there a way to do this without a heat gun?

4:28 PM

Were do i find a collection point in for example my city ?

What happened to the server ?? It's so freaking still

NY (right near my house)

7:03 PM

not my photo

Sewayaki Kitsune no Senko-san

Were do i find a collection point in for example my city ?

Without knowing your city, I suggest looking at the map. Not every workspace is on there so sometimes it takes a bit of googling and looking around on different social media platforms.

HI I am new to the channel and wanted to as a precious plastic question. I am wondering if these row cleaners can be modified to use as shredder blades? I am in the midwest and it just seems to make more sense to use what we have instead of trying to get the blades made from new.

9:30 PM

Row cleaners mentioned. I wonder if I could cut squares or other shapes in the center of these blades and then put it in a rod of the same shape profile (square/hex)

Sewayaki Kitsune no Senko-san

What happened to the server ?? It's so freaking still

Try the other channels? I'm not sure what you're expecting. Usually people get their workspaces running and they go silent unless they have problems.

It seems like the lasercut blades are more heavy-duty when placed next to one another as an interlocking grinder of sorts, but perhaps with modification these may still do the trick?

9:34 PM

The midwest in the US does not have many plastic recycling points (I am in the middle of such a desert) and we are an artistic community. I have interest in building one, since we have the machining capacity, and some of the resources to do so. It would be great to find more support for the project also.

seventwentyeight

Row cleaners mentioned. I wonder if I could cut squares or other shapes in the center of these blades and then put it in a rod of the same shape profile (square/hex)

Short answer? Yes. You can use those. Long Answer, yes but.... If you want to follow the precious plastic design for the shredder, you'll need them to be cut down to spec.

9:41 PM

Do you have a laser cutter handy? That would make things easier to cut the shapes out of your row cleaners. You would need to pay attention to the thickness of the steel and adjust the design as needed.

we probably will hybridize/modify the design to whatever we have.

9:42 PM

Not a metal lasercutter. That is the initial problem. We have other machining equipment.

9:43 PM

Our machine shop has more traditional equipment

9:44 PM

We could possibly try to plasma cut the blades and then mill them more precisely

I've seen some interesting methods for making shredder blades. I'm sure you can figure it out. The hex part might be tricky to make but perhaps with a mill you can get it done. I've seen someone use a grinder for making the outer blade shape, so that's a possibility too.

We also have a local machinery auction coming up, and will probably shop around for some options.

With more tools, you have more options.

If you could direct me to where I can find alternative shredder blade options. I would like to see

have you thought about installing solar water heating for showers? Also to move away from using bottles of gas you could start to produce your own methane from bio waste.

just had our biggest plastic lumber order to date. 3 metric tons. We have to run 2 units of v4 extrusion at the same time to do it. wish us luck lol

Butte (PP Philippines)

just had our biggest plastic lumber order to date. 3 metric tons. We have to run 2 units of v4 extrusion at the same time to do it. wish us luck lol

Congratulations!

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MattD

have you thought about installing solar water heating for showers? Also to move away from using bottles of gas you could start to produce your own methane from bio waste.

Better to chat about that over at #kamp-chat

Butte (PP Philippines)

just had our biggest plastic lumber order to date. 3 metric tons. We have to run 2 units of v4 extrusion at the same time to do it. wish us luck lol

Nice! I'm finding myself a little overwhelmed. I have a little less than a year to figure out how to do 10,000 planks. If it's 3kg each then that's 30 tons...but the client is saying the design is too flexible. If it's a simple thickness issue and i need to add 1cm, that increases plastic needs to 45tons.

I think i might need to find a different machine for this project.

Butte (PP Philippines)

just had our biggest plastic lumber order to date. 3 metric tons. We have to run 2 units of v4 extrusion at the same time to do it. wish us luck lol

Quite a lot indeed! Good luck! Since you're a machine builder, you can build more machines haha

Hows the screw life when using those mild steel barrels or do you guys have proper nitrided ones?

hello people! i am starting my recycled plastic proyect. And i am a bit worried about plastic fumes. I am going to work just with hdpe. I am safe melting this type of plastic with a organic vapours filltering mask?

FranBro

hello people! i am starting my recycled plastic proyect. And i am a bit worried about plastic fumes. I am going to work just with hdpe. I am safe melting this type of plastic with a organic vapours filltering mask?

you should get filters that keep out organic filters

yo mean i have to use a mask with filters for organic fumes?

Yes

Santa

Hows the screw life when using those mild steel barrels or do you guys have proper nitrided ones?

i use 4140 steel

FranBro

hello people! i am starting my recycled plastic proyect. And i am a bit worried about plastic fumes. I am going to work just with hdpe. I am safe melting this type of plastic with a organic vapours filltering mask?

Check this out: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety

https://preciousplastic.com/archived/starterkits/overview.html

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Do you sell the metal brick molds ready for use? Or know where I can get them? I would love to do this but the mold creation process is beyond my skill set

Aria Aember

Do you sell the metal brick molds ready for use? Or know where I can get them? I would love to do this but the mold creation process is beyond my skill set

who are you asking? There's some for sale in the bazar, but there's also machine builders who also produce the brick molds that maybe are not on the bazar. It might help to know where you are located.

I'm in Livingston Texas United States I've never used discord so wasn't sure who to ask I followed the link's from your website after watching your video

Good evening everyone. I have a technical question for anyone out there who might be able to help. We were approached today by an organisation who are interested in using the bars and tubes that we make to make frames for coral reef regeneration. Would anyone know if the beams that we make from PE would leach chemicals into the sea....? My main concern was that they could break down into micro plastic over time but they didnt seem too concerned about this for some reason.

We’ve got an interesting weekend experience this Saturday Sept 17 - international coastal clean up day! To us this is more than a clean up - it’s a chance to learn about the circular economy and ecosystems. This years ICC features a ridge to reef story, and the circular economy. We want people to understand that cleaning up is one action we need to do to correct the mistakes of humanity. In the morning: We will show that cleaning up leads to recycling and the circular economy, which we hope to build together In the afternoon we head over to the thick woodland area to forest bathe, forage for food and sip different varieties of organic herbal tea whilst experiencing the culture and cuisine of the Aetas. While enjoying the clean air and good food we will learn about our forest and upland ecosystem, and how it supports us, our communities and the lowland areas. Participants will see how ridge and reef connects to the story of our coastal waste. What will happen: 7am clean up Learn about circular economy Talk on sustainability on a personal and organizational level 12nn lunch 2pm forest and folklore tour by mad travel 3pm herbal teas freshly foraged and served with heavy snack PM us if you want to get information on the day package! #travel #education #sustainability #waste Location; Subic Bay Free Trade Zone, Philippines

8:15 AM

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8:18 AM

We will have 2 plastic extrusion machines on display, and one will be converting the plastic collected from the beach Saturday morning into plastic lumber. See our Ph version 5hp plastic granulator in action as well as out 5hp v3 plastic shredder, and the new pneumatic injection molder will be making plastic cabinet knobs.

8:18 AM

The Precious Plastic mini factory will be in operation at the Lighthouse resort in Subic.

Hi there

Does anyone know where can I find some injection mould planes? Thank you so much

Do you mean plans?

hahahah yes sorry

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3:28 PM

Im looking for a round key ring mould

3:28 PM

or something similar

There's quite a few out there. It's usually a matter of finding the one that you want.

but where should i look?

3:29 PM

Thankyou

Good question. The Precious Plastic website has some, but not a lot. You can also draw your own if the geometry is simple and you have the tools to produce it.

3:30 PM

I put mine on Thingiverse, which is maybe not the best site.

3:30 PM

Can you tell me a little more about what you're trying to achieve with a plastic key ring?

Read Goldman sachs as baking giant instead of Banking giant this morning. Needs some coffee!

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Hello everyone, does anybody know, where I can find the list of required tools to setup a machine building workshop ? I lost the link an can not find it anymore . Thanks Kristian

¿hay un canal en español?

Hello I am looking at building the basic shredder and really struggling to find a motor would this one be suitable: https://www.gearedmotorsuk.com/products/TEC-Worm-Gear-Motor-Part-Number-FCNDK030-20-0.1243-63-With-an-Input-Power-of-0.12-kW-and-an-Output-Speed-of-70-rpm/P561584 I can't seem to find the KW with the low gears of 70 rpm. (I am UK based any help would be welcome) (edited)

Morphix

Hello I am looking at building the basic shredder and really struggling to find a motor would this one be suitable: https://www.gearedmotorsuk.com/products/TEC-Worm-Gear-Motor-Part-Number-FCNDK030-20-0.1243-63-With-an-Input-Power-of-0.12-kW-and-an-Output-Speed-of-70-rpm/P561584 I can't seem to find the KW with the low gears of 70 rpm. (I am UK based any help would be welcome) (edited)

No, it is too small : 0,12kW. The speed is right, but the output torque then is very reduce (18Nm). You need something around 300-350Nm as output torque, which for this rotation speed can only get with a 1,5 to 2,2kW motor.

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Aidis

¿hay un canal en español?

#🍌latin-america

kf

Hello everyone, does anybody know, where I can find the list of required tools to setup a machine building workshop ? I lost the link an can not find it anymore . Thanks Kristian

Starterktis Overview

Starterkits are packages of information with everything you need to know to set up Precious Plastic recycling spaces and start tackling the plastic waste problem.

Hi everyone, does anyone have any information on PID sensors to detect VOCs while extruding? Based in Chicago and looking for US based options

Hello, Good day, One Army! I'm Robert, Project Assistant of Pangea Mangrove Sunglasses (Pangea Movement). Can someone help me? We are looking for a member of Precious Plastic designer that is based in Europe, where can I find those people? I highly appreciate any help.

Hello channel does anyone want to help me with feedback on a prototype I'm working on? It's for a business project any feedback is greatly appreciated.

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gcody3d

Hi everyone, does anyone have any information on PID sensors to detect VOCs while extruding? Based in Chicago and looking for US based options

There are some easy options to build with microcontrollers and sensor. I can help if you want to brainstorm a system.

1mpulse

Hello, Good day, One Army! I'm Robert, Project Assistant of Pangea Mangrove Sunglasses (Pangea Movement). Can someone help me? We are looking for a member of Precious Plastic designer that is based in Europe, where can I find those people? I highly appreciate any help.

Hello Robert, You can search by workshop type on the Map to find folks in your area: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

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Graveheist

Hello Robert, You can search by workshop type on the Map to find folks in your area: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

Thank you!

Hi there

8:15 PM

I look for 2 shredding macines.. how can I get them pls I am based in morocco. Thx all

Hi All, I work at a company called Giant Inflatables. We make inflatables out of heavy-duty PVC material. We often have heaps of leftover materials or projects that have only been used for 1 or 2 major events that are heading to landfill. We're looking for ways to reuse the material, give it a second life.

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I think this server needs a responsive team to answer questions. It would be very beneficial to be honest

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Fati

Hi there

Hi ! Did you check the bazar already ? After a quick check there only one seller is shipping automatically to Morocco, but you can also contact the other ones and they will propose a custom shipping listing for you : https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/shredder/shredder-fully-built/

ShakiraHips

I think this server needs a responsive team to answer questions. It would be very beneficial to be honest

It is a collaborative server, everyone able to answer is participating, and we do our best to complete. What is your question ?

hi everyone, does anyone know if there is a precious plastic center in Accra, Ghana??

Yann

Hi ! Did you check the bazar already ? After a quick check there only one seller is shipping automatically to Morocco, but you can also contact the other ones and they will propose a custom shipping listing for you : https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/shredder/shredder-fully-built/

Thanks a lot Yann. Indeed no seller is shipping to morocco except one. I hope there are more solutions to get the machine to avoid high shipping coasts.

Good morning, I would like to know what is the right temperature to melt PET plastic.

7:26 PM

Or rather your recommendation

A. D.

hi everyone, does anyone know if there is a precious plastic center in Accra, Ghana??

Looks like there are a couple in the area; you can explore the map to see who's around: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map#sesa-recycling https://community.preciousplastic.com/map#borlaman-recycling

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Fati

Thanks a lot Yann. Indeed no seller is shipping to morocco except one. I hope there are more solutions to get the machine to avoid high shipping coasts.

If you have local machine shops or welders you could try buying the individual parts and assembling them locally, it might save on shipping.

Graveheist

If you have local machine shops or welders you could try buying the individual parts and assembling them locally, it might save on shipping.

Yes thank you, that seems a great idea, we'll surely struggle assembling the machi ne but we can do it

Can you please tell me more on where I can buy all the parts at the same plateforme ?

Fati

Yes thank you, that seems a great idea, we'll surely struggle assembling the machi ne but we can do it

Can you please tell me more on where I can buy all the parts at the same plateforme ?

The Bazar has a number of parts available for purchase, but the machines are designed in such a way that you should be able to find or make most of the parts locally, no matter where you are. It depends on what resources you have in your area, so it's a bit of a case-by-case basis.

Fati

Yes thank you, that seems a great idea, we'll surely struggle assembling the machi ne but we can do it

Can you please tell me more on where I can buy all the parts at the same plateforme ?

If you want to make it locally, an easy solution is to get all the laser cut parts, axis, bearing on the bazar. Then either you buy the motor and the coupling also on the bazar (but more expensive to import) or you are looking for it locally (probably less straight forward the get compatible parts). But what you can do locally easily is the frame, the hopper (standard welding) and the wiring of the motor (also standard for an electrician).

11:15 PM

In Morocco you can try to contact them for help : https://kounshop.com/en/ or https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/redeeming-plastics

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pardon me for my curiosity, where is the birthplace of this project One Army? or if I rephrase it, from where it all started?

PLANK

Hi All, I work at a company called Giant Inflatables. We make inflatables out of heavy-duty PVC material. We often have heaps of leftover materials or projects that have only been used for 1 or 2 major events that are heading to landfill. We're looking for ways to reuse the material, give it a second life.

pvc is reported as a little bit tricky to recycle, because of the toxic fumes it produces when melted, so less workshops would want to deal with it. That said, if you would be extremely careful with safety regulations, i imagine it would be posible to mess with it..

spiros nik

pvc is reported as a little bit tricky to recycle, because of the toxic fumes it produces when melted, so less workshops would want to deal with it. That said, if you would be extremely careful with safety regulations, i imagine it would be posible to mess with it..

Yeah I've heard that too. I guess the most realistic option would be to simply reuse the material as is without melting. For example I've seen some people take the material and sew it into new things like tote bags etc.

Hi everyone ! ! Did anyone ever heard of someone building a shelter or a little hous using precious plastic bricks? ?

pavelsayekat

pardon me for my curiosity, where is the birthplace of this project One Army? or if I rephrase it, from where it all started?

So it all started from 2007! that long huh!

CitSciWorkshop

There are some easy options to build with microcontrollers and sensor. I can help if you want to brainstorm a system.

Hi CitSci, that would be amazing! Thanks for your response

pavelsayekat

pardon me for my curiosity, where is the birthplace of this project One Army? or if I rephrase it, from where it all started?

If I recall correctly it started with Dave Hakkens going to university for product design and wanting to recycle plastic for his product. This introduced the problem of the equipment being too expensive for us little guys. So he started working with others to design machines for Precious Plastic. One Army covers different projects like Precious Plastic, project kamp, phonebloks, fixing fashion, and a few others I think.

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12:37 PM

When? I'm not sure of the year. One Army started after Precious Plastic.

Hello Army people, plastic fighters and discorders, hope youre good! ❤️ Do we have some Parisians around? Have you heard about the Conscious Festival? It is an educational and festive event about sustainability, fashion, lifestyle, food, finance, transport, energy, travel, music, art, and fun! It will take place in Paris, at the Ground Control, from September 30th - October 2nd, and will be filled with talks, an eco-conscious market place, concerts, DJ sets & more. But also in London, and online, as a hybrid event. Our NGO, Bye Bye Plastic Foundation, co-founded by BLOND:ISH and Camille Guitteau, fighting single-use plastics in the music industry will launch the 1st Impact To Earn token at the Conscious Festival! A token rewarding people for accomplishing eco-actions such as cleaning the streets! https://www.byebyeplastic.life/byebye-token/ And we are actually looking for volunteers for our Bye Bye Plastic stand if you are interested ❤️ https://byebyeplastic.typeform.com/consciousfest22

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If you head over to #👋start-here you can select a role that will give you access to a lot more Precious Plastic channels, including a #archived-bazar-sellers channel

Thanks for the help! @Graveheist

Any time!

Has anyone worked with pet bottles Any tips on how and what to recycle them into?

Hello Precious Plastic Community! I hope you all are having a great day. I'm Robert, Project assistant of Pangea Mangrove Sunglasses, a start-up project under the Pangea Movement. Our project is to produce eco-friendly sunglasses that are made out of recycled plastic. We're looking for designers and companies in Europe, the USA, and China that have experience in making sunglasses designs for injection machines that can create the design and the full render.

Taiga5552

Has anyone worked with pet bottles Any tips on how and what to recycle them into?

Most of us avoid working with PET because it's not so friendly with the tooling.

Hello all, I am looking to connect with local resources and trying to follow the guidance of precious plastic spaces webpage (I will not post the link unless that is ok from the team) but I can't seem to find any country channels (#your-country-channel) is that outdated info on the website?

Hello everyone. I hope you all use YouTube. Today, Nas Daily, a channel in YouTube has uploaded a video about making our own country. It has been my dream project to build a new nation since I know about myself. I hope you have watched, if not you will watch, the video and contact me if you're interested. Let's build our Kamp like Camp and declare it an independent sovereign entity.

Graveheist

Hello Robert, You can search by workshop type on the Map to find folks in your area: https://community.preciousplastic.com/map

My area is seriously lacking any and all PP infrastructure. The 2 points listed near me are basically defunct. Anyone in the Miami area with some Machines?

5:15 PM

Anyone know where the #universe channel is? I find this discord format less than ideal. Very hard to navigate. Wish this was more like and old school forum

jcb

My area is seriously lacking any and all PP infrastructure. The 2 points listed near me are basically defunct. Anyone in the Miami area with some Machines?

Did some quick Googling and found a Facebook page that appears active: https://m.facebook.com/PreciousPlasticFL/ ...and group that may have advice on machines: https://www.freeplastic.org/ Hope those are useful leads!

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jcb

Anyone know where the #universe channel is? I find this discord format less than ideal. Very hard to navigate. Wish this was more like and old school forum

There are a lot more Precious Plastic channels available if you head over to #👋start-here and select a role, though I'm not sure where the #universe channel is.

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Hi does anyone know how to become an official Precious Plastics chapter? I am at a university and we had several people interested and wanted to be able to be called an official chapter

EllieCintron

Hi does anyone know how to become an official Precious Plastics chapter? I am at a university and we had several people interested and wanted to be able to be called an official chapter

This page describes the various levels of involvement, including requirements for getting Verified: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/guides/community-program

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Graveheist

Did some quick Googling and found a Facebook page that appears active: https://m.facebook.com/PreciousPlasticFL/ ...and group that may have advice on machines: https://www.freeplastic.org/ Hope those are useful leads!

I tried freeplastic, wrote them and nada. Precious plastics Florida is a few hundred miles away, I’m gona try them next Thanks for the reminder. Glad to see people on the community still active . I guess I’m still getting the hang of this discord thing

Graveheist

This page describes the various levels of involvement, including requirements for getting Verified: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/guides/community-program

Thanks for sharing, we currently have a logo and want to be able to be placed on the map so we others in our community can know where to find us, i think we have enough stars to become an ally

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Awesome, congrats!

jcb

I tried freeplastic, wrote them and nada. Precious plastics Florida is a few hundred miles away, I’m gona try them next Thanks for the reminder. Glad to see people on the community still active . I guess I’m still getting the hang of this discord thing

Try joining the precious plastic USA server and go chat in the Florida channel. They seem a bit active. https://discord.gg/zVz55V3D

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How do I find out if anyone is doing anything in London?

Hello, I'm sorry if I'm not good at chatting in English but I need help I want to make a simple mold for compression molding, for personal use. I use the technique of melting HDPE in a panini press. However, I can't make perfect shapes with the molds I've used. So I want to make a press with interchangeable molds. But I need ideas or some guidance to do it. I would appreciate your help

honey_bee

How do I find out if anyone is doing anything in London?

Which project? There's the community map you can have a look at via the precious plastic website.

PLANK

Hi All, I work at a company called Giant Inflatables. We make inflatables out of heavy-duty PVC material. We often have heaps of leftover materials or projects that have only been used for 1 or 2 major events that are heading to landfill. We're looking for ways to reuse the material, give it a second life.

Very honourable for you to reach out and think of ways to reclaim plastic waste.

Hello, I would like to know if you can provide me the solid works file for the basic shredder not only laser files? in the file it includes the solid works for the pro and more complicated shredder. Thank you

Celesmoe

Hello, I'm sorry if I'm not good at chatting in English but I need help I want to make a simple mold for compression molding, for personal use. I use the technique of melting HDPE in a panini press. However, I can't make perfect shapes with the molds I've used. So I want to make a press with interchangeable molds. But I need ideas or some guidance to do it. I would appreciate your help

Hello, we have used for interchangeable with inyection, but not sure if this would help to what you are looking for in your press. this were made with aluminum in both sides, and lasser cuted to the shape of your press, depending on material and size there are good cost value

4:13 AM

Ruben

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nice molds can they be used for compression molding ?

I guess they should work fine, those were 5mm thick, then lathe them into a 4mm thick to get them lighter...

#deleted-channel for your basic shredder, what was the length of the axle? and diameter (edited)

Ruben

I guess they should work fine, those were 5mm thick, then lathe them into a 4mm thick to get them lighter...

thanks for the information, I will take into account all these aspects to improve the project

Hey does anyone have experience with the lower cost chinese desktop injection molding machines like this: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Electric-plastic-mini-desktop-injection-molding_62553453841.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.3f2138d67XksaL

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hello Can anyone tell me if I can do the same process of plastic caps using polyester clothes.

Nick - PP France

https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/pet-ropes-and-filaments-making-v4/https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/pet-ropes-and-filaments-making-v4/

Hello. Is this still available to see? I have clicked on the link but i get a "404 Not Found" message. Cheers.

Found it!!

Looking for some help on shredder pro. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredderpro The above link indicates that a different mesh size should be used for a different sized flake. We use a mesh on the single sized screw to obtain good results. When we use a mesh on the twin screw just below the shredder there is no pull up from below to continue the shredding until it falls through the mesh. There is roughly 5 mm gap between between the mesh and shredder wheels. Should this be smaller? With no material being swept back up for regrind what are we doing wrong? We have found there needs to be regrind in the twin screw or the mesh will be plugged with first grind until the mesh breaks. In the 3D drawing there is no mesh shown. Should there be a mesh? https://workbench.grabcad.com/workbench/projects/gcUbMRKUCFx7X5PxSFsPZs9Em9RwRsNaz30AJEp-hmriQl#/space/gc5PUkFy1QZe-n49PeCWmCLojw8Y3ieBpX2S96s8tcRKS-/link/3346475

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Anyone had any luck using a garden shredder for plastic shredding? I've also seen people using regular paper shredders. Seems to work on hdpe? Anyone tried it?

Celesmoe

Hello, I'm sorry if I'm not good at chatting in English but I need help I want to make a simple mold for compression molding, for personal use. I use the technique of melting HDPE in a panini press. However, I can't make perfect shapes with the molds I've used. So I want to make a press with interchangeable molds. But I need ideas or some guidance to do it. I would appreciate your help

Hi @Celesmoe , maybe this YouTube channel will give you some inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/c/BrothersMake

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Hello! We are Matt & Jonny of Brothers Make and we design and make projects out of a wide range of materials, with an overall focus on sustainability. We hope that we can inspire some of you to give making a go! We have a workshop on the South coast of the UK, which allows us to experiment and play around with new ideas for videos and products....

Statcount

Hi @Celesmoe , maybe this YouTube channel will give you some inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/c/BrothersMake

Thank you!

@Celesmoe

Statcount

Hi @Celesmoe , maybe this YouTube channel will give you some inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/c/BrothersMake

I love those guys I watch their videos I have even talked to them before

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Alex_recycles and creates

I love those guys I watch their videos I have even talked to them before

They seem like down to earth kinda guys that'd be good to talk to.

I'm looking into making the simple shredder does anyone have the account name of the person who made this one I have a lot of wood but I dont really know how to get started with it.

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Hello, does anyone have a rough gauge of how many people can fit into the PP workspaces? (I'm an architecture student doing a thesis on plastic recycling as a community

jcb

My area is seriously lacking any and all PP infrastructure. The 2 points listed near me are basically defunct. Anyone in the Miami area with some Machines?

are you trying to get started in miami?

Hey Guys, we appreciate a hand here in Germany? Please vote for us "Precious Plastic Workspace Bremen" https://www.dbs.info/sauber-award/ This will help to develop our workspace. Many thanks in advance!

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hi, i'm aziz from tunisia, i'm a mechanical engineering student, i'm passionate about bio degradable materials in my research i came across the one army youtube channel, i really love what you do and i'm proud of you to with you ❤️

Hi ! I have a question for the community to help me on my project? I ask it here (i don't know what is the exact channel for this): any ideas for using recycled PETG?

Clem

Hi ! I have a question for the community to help me on my project? I ask it here (i don't know what is the exact channel for this): any ideas for using recycled PETG?

You can turn it in to filament

yes ! for 3Dprinting I suppose

TravisQ

Looking for some help on shredder pro. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredderpro The above link indicates that a different mesh size should be used for a different sized flake. We use a mesh on the single sized screw to obtain good results. When we use a mesh on the twin screw just below the shredder there is no pull up from below to continue the shredding until it falls through the mesh. There is roughly 5 mm gap between between the mesh and shredder wheels. Should this be smaller? With no material being swept back up for regrind what are we doing wrong? We have found there needs to be regrind in the twin screw or the mesh will be plugged with first grind until the mesh breaks. In the 3D drawing there is no mesh shown. Should there be a mesh? https://workbench.grabcad.com/workbench/projects/gcUbMRKUCFx7X5PxSFsPZs9Em9RwRsNaz30AJEp-hmriQl#/space/gc5PUkFy1QZe-n49PeCWmCLojw8Y3ieBpX2S96s8tcRKS-/link/3346475

Let me answer your questions on #archived-machines

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What respirator filter do you use

6:58 PM

I use 3M 6200

Will the Project Kamp site be lived and worked on this January February? I'm keen on pitching in and building some infrastructure.

Hey there! I would like to know of there is anyone who started a precious plastic project at their university. I just found out about precious plastic at a workshop and would like to start something from zero since the university wants to support such projects

Not sure about that but there are enough makerspaces that have been created at universities. There you might people who can provide all the neccessary hints when it comes to university related details. I dont know which country you are from but there might also be other PP workspaces where you may get hints how to start or where to get stuff from (apart from the possiblity to get feedback right here on discord of course)

Yes I’m from Nürtingen nearby Stuttgart

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

Not sure about that but there are enough makerspaces that have been created at universities. There you might people who can provide all the neccessary hints when it comes to university related details. I dont know which country you are from but there might also be other PP workspaces where you may get hints how to start or where to get stuff from (apart from the possiblity to get feedback right here on discord of course)

I will reach look for them and try to get insights thank u

4:59 PM

Do you know from universities here in Germany that did it?

Maybe PP Germany is also a good starting point then to search for active people nearby. https://discord.gg/qdAM8VY2 I also heard about a new makerspace in Heidelberg...

Hi! We just put together an Extruder Pro here in the jungle in Panama, and got it pooping out some nice plastic! We have been making some toys for an animal rescue here ( you can see a tapir playing with a bar here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Ahr9YZeWg )

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9:24 PM

I have two questions though that maybe somebody can help me with! 1) Our thermocouples seem to be reading SUPER LOW. If i set them to 190C, the plastic comes out at like 270C (and is smoking), and i have been extruding polypropylene at around 140C (according to these thermocouples). My first thought was maybe the thermocouples were not type K, and so i tried setting to other types, but the guy we got the thermocouples from reassured us they were K-type. These thermocouples also have a little screw in end that look like this , but i don't have anythign to screw it into? So i just used some metal bands to hold the thermocouple against the tube. (Perpendicular, and inside the hole in the band heater) Maybe this is wrong?

9:27 PM

2) The motor seems to get max speed at 10hz. If i set the VFD lower than this it goes slower, and if i set the VFD higher than 10hz (like 30hz) the motor sounds like it goes faster, but the shaft seems to spin slower). Maybe it looses torque at higher speeds? But even when the plastic is super liquid it seems to not go faster (and it takes like 45 mins to fill up a 1 meter x 2 inch tube). It seems like it should be able to go faster than this, do i have something wrong with my VFD?

hikinghack

I have two questions though that maybe somebody can help me with! 1) Our thermocouples seem to be reading SUPER LOW. If i set them to 190C, the plastic comes out at like 270C (and is smoking), and i have been extruding polypropylene at around 140C (according to these thermocouples). My first thought was maybe the thermocouples were not type K, and so i tried setting to other types, but the guy we got the thermocouples from reassured us they were K-type. These thermocouples also have a little screw in end that look like this , but i don't have anythign to screw it into? So i just used some metal bands to hold the thermocouple against the tube. (Perpendicular, and inside the hole in the band heater) Maybe this is wrong?

Do you have a pic with the position of the thermocouple inside the band heater? If it is inside the hole just make sure that the tip is in contact with the surface Also this happens with all band heater/Thermocouple?

hikinghack

Hi! We just put together an Extruder Pro here in the jungle in Panama, and got it pooping out some nice plastic! We have been making some toys for an animal rescue here ( you can see a tapir playing with a bar here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Ahr9YZeWg )

"It moves away when you snoot at it" is the best thing I've heard all day, thank you for sharing this

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hi everyone just wondering if anyone knows how to assess the channel listen bellow in yans Post

12:34 PM

i have just joined the discord and not sure how to access it

Hi everyone! I'm SO happy to have found the Patreon and this discord

I'd been looking into plastic recycling (esp laser cutting waste) for a while but it felt very lonely. Good to find a community!

JamesBoxford

hi everyone just wondering if anyone knows how to assess the channel listen bellow in yans Post

I believe you get access to that channel by going to #👋start-here and selecting the contributor role (by reacting with the

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Who approves the how-tos in PP?

How is everyone?

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3:40 PM

How do i find #kamp-chat ?

3:41 PM

Like to write some docs, its an open task!

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Anyone know how I can recycle my PLA in california

11:18 AM

It's hard to find information about recycling in my area about it...

11:18 AM

That or I'm too incompetent to find the info......

Just found this video, I didn't know that clay litter was a non-renewable resource that just sits in the dump :( Tl;dw - pine pellet cat litter is renewable, compostable, easy to use, and MUCH cheaper than clay cat litter. I'm going to try it out this week! https://youtu.be/LhgynG941D8

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Hatigarm

Anyone know how I can recycle my PLA in california

I'd be curious too, I've been keeping all my failed PLA prints in a bucket but it's getting a bit big... hopefully once we get our own shredder, I can process it myself...

Let's hope something comes up

Hatigarm

Let's hope something comes up

As far as I understand, some people do shred and turn it back into filament. I think I'm keener on making sheets of material I can then laser cut. But I haven't been able to confirm how well PLA laser cuts yet

thatcanadiangirl (Véro)

As far as I understand, some people do shred and turn it back into filament. I think I'm keener on making sheets of material I can then laser cut. But I haven't been able to confirm how well PLA laser cuts yet

Maybe I could try and figure it out at some point. But I won't be able to do it this month

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

Maybe I could try and figure it out at some point. But I won't be able to do it this month

Heya

That'd be super cool - I would so love to make locally recycled products with PLA and my own laser cut acrylic PMMA (as two separate products, obviously)

2:35 PM

I've already got the laser, and we decided that we don't need a living room so probably going to populate that with a shredder and sheet press LOL

What laser do you got? co2 laser? How much power?

We have a 120W Trotec RF laser

2:36 PM

from Austria

okay that should be enough for sure to cut through pla without issues. I assume you want to make rather small sheets (<1cm)?!

Oh yeah for sure! I'm mostly working with 3mm acrylic these days, so likely wouldn't go any thicker. I'm more curious what the edge quality is like on PLA vs what I'm used to with PMMA (e.g. would it feel nice enough to make jewellery and other tactile objects out of, for example, or whether it cuts rougher)

2:39 PM

I'm hoping I hear back from one of the shredder makers I contacted last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSGMO99nmc8 Might give a first impression. But since it's a 3d printed plate instead of a pressed sheet, the edge quality might be misleading here

Xnaron

Laser Cutting PLA from a 3d Printer

Interesting, thanks!

2:45 PM

Right well, back to working on ornament designs for the Ukraine fundraiser in our village.

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thatcanadiangirl (Véro)

Right well, back to working on ornament designs for the Ukraine fundraiser in our village.

looks good (edited)

Does anyone have a good source for a motor for the shredder pro?

Alex_recycles and creates

looks good (edited)

Thanks

hoping we can raise a bit of funds before Christmas

Karsten River

Does anyone have a good source for a motor for the shredder pro?

Did you try Amazon

Alex_recycles and creates

Did you try Amazon

Not too sure, I couldn’t find any

Karsten River

Not too sure, I couldn’t find any

They have motors their

Alex_recycles and creates

They have motors their

Could you send a link please?

okay

Karsten River

Could you send a link please?

https://www.amazon.com/Leeson-4HP-3KW-3450RPM-DF100L-TEFC-230-460V-3PH-60HZ-CONT-40C-1-15SF-B3-193303-60/dp/B00869F886/ref=sr_1_8?crid=27MYHH17P1PY0&keywords=3kw+motor&qid=1666545597&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjI0IiwicXNhIjoiMS45NSIsInFzcCI6IjEuMDAifQ%3D%3D&s=industrial&sprefix=3kw+motor%2Cindustrial%2C79&sr=1-8

Leeson 4HP-3KW 3450RPM.DF100L.TEFC.230/460V.3PH.60HZ.CONT.40C.1.15S...

4HP-3KW 3450RPM.DF100L.TEFC.230/460V.3PH.60HZ.CONT.40C.1.15SF.B3

7:22 PM

you will need a gear boz

7:22 PM

box

hi friends there´s someone from Argentina?

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Karsten River

Does anyone have a good source for a motor for the shredder pro?

It helps to now where you are in the world, generally specialized part like this ae sold by sellers that are limited in their distribution area. US sellers will generally sells only in the US, EU only in the EU, and some places only in the country. The motor we used for the shredder PRO is manufactured by Yilmaz, a Turkish manufacturer, they have distributors a bit everywhere, check on their website.

12:58 PM

I would also recommend you to not buy a motor alone, but together with the gearbox, or you will add some extra complexity while looking at the gearbox (compatible with your motor for the axis, the connection flange etc...)

thatcanadiangirl (Véro)

As far as I understand, some people do shred and turn it back into filament. I think I'm keener on making sheets of material I can then laser cut. But I haven't been able to confirm how well PLA laser cuts yet

I know about 3 ways to recycle plastics but about all of them are inaccessible due to price, space, and compatibility. I'm seeking out a way that's more feasible for me to take out PLA since I cannot realistically recycle it myself with current accommodations, plus you can't really recycle PLA bricks easily, not that I have any lying around

Yann

It helps to now where you are in the world, generally specialized part like this ae sold by sellers that are limited in their distribution area. US sellers will generally sells only in the US, EU only in the EU, and some places only in the country. The motor we used for the shredder PRO is manufactured by Yilmaz, a Turkish manufacturer, they have distributors a bit everywhere, check on their website.

Do you have recommendations for suppliers of complete (or easy to assemble) shredder pros in the UK?

1:18 PM

We'd like to recycle PLA plastic and PMMA acrylic using heatpresses, so we need to work out a decent shredder for this

Lucho

hi friends there´s someone from Argentina?

You can write at the Latin America region

wanted to provide a good solution for fly problem: https://youtu.be/pFHJJOdOzK8

Gold Shaw Farm

How a Farmer Won a War Against Flies

seanlholt

wanted to provide a good solution for fly problem: https://youtu.be/pFHJJOdOzK8

Now that was a great video

5:44 PM

@Project Kamp

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oh goldshaw farm

5:44 PM

the man's a good soul (edited)

thatcanadiangirl (Véro)

Do you have recommendations for suppliers of complete (or easy to assemble) shredder pros in the UK?

Shredder PRO builder in the UK, I don't know any, but it is relatively easy to import from Europe now. You can also check https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/recycle-rebuild/ there is no shredder PRO, but the main difference with the shredder 3.3, is mostly the output, so it depends how much you have to shred.

All Sellers :: Sustainable Design Studio + Recycle Rebuild

Yann

Shredder PRO builder in the UK, I don't know any, but it is relatively easy to import from Europe now. You can also check https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/recycle-rebuild/ there is no shredder PRO, but the main difference with the shredder 3.3, is mostly the output, so it depends how much you have to shred.

I emailed plasticpreneur on Friday so I’ll await their answer excitedly

9:26 PM

Theirs looks like wonderful quality

Graveheist

Just found this video, I didn't know that clay litter was a non-renewable resource that just sits in the dump :( Tl;dw - pine pellet cat litter is renewable, compostable, easy to use, and MUCH cheaper than clay cat litter. I'm going to try it out this week! https://youtu.be/LhgynG941D8

Whoa! Thank you so much! Alyssa thanks you.

nouveau

Whoa! Thank you so much! Alyssa thanks you.

What a beauty!

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Thank you!

9:47 PM

Follow her on Instagram: siamalyssa

Is there a specific place to discuss the infrastructure projects like water, electric, etc.?

Hi I'm new on here. I'm actually trying to contact someone in charge at camp they posted a video outlining some hurdles and needs there. I may have a solution for some of those needs who or how do I connect with someone from there

thatcanadiangirl (Véro)

As far as I understand, some people do shred and turn it back into filament. I think I'm keener on making sheets of material I can then laser cut. But I haven't been able to confirm how well PLA laser cuts yet

I've made a few PLA sheets and according to this website, you shouldnt have much problem with laser cutting and etching it. https://www.ulsinc.com/materials/pla

PLA - Laser Cutting and Engraving Metal Foam | ULS

PLA [Poly(lactic acid)] is a biodegradable thermoplastic derived from renewable plant resources. It is ideal for laser cutting and engraving.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I've made a few PLA sheets and according to this website, you shouldnt have much problem with laser cutting and etching it. https://www.ulsinc.com/materials/pla

Thanks! That's one of the few references I've found so far too

I guess the next step is to find a scrap in my failed 3d prints bin and give it a try

thatcanadiangirl (Véro)

Thanks! That's one of the few references I've found so far too

I guess the next step is to find a scrap in my failed 3d prints bin and give it a try

It's not difficult to do, I found that some of the pla pigments might come off onto your steel plates if you're making sheets. Have a go, let me know how things turn out. I've had some crack but I think there may have been some PETG mixed in.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

It's not difficult to do, I found that some of the pla pigments might come off onto your steel plates if you're making sheets. Have a go, let me know how things turn out. I've had some crack but I think there may have been some PETG mixed in.

Good to know, I’ll use a different contraption to raise the piece then as my main bed needs to be pretty clean for client projects

thatcanadiangirl (Véro)

Good to know, I’ll use a different contraption to raise the piece then as my main bed needs to be pretty clean for client projects

Your alternative would be to do a few dark sheets after the PLA sheet(s) and you should be alright.

Community software anyone? I'm looking for beta testers. It will be free to use. I created a cartoon to explain Forby. https://youtu.be/rThmWnGtLFA Would be curious to get your feedback! We as humanity need to learn how to coordinate at a new level. You and I, like everyone else, are confronted with topics like:

climate change
environmental crisis
economic crisis
war
epidemics
inequality
Ai
genetic modification

All of these situations are fundamentally a failure to coordinate. Our short term interests seem polarized, but our long term interests are definitely aligned. If we don't start to coordinate on the long term goals, we will all die from the conflicts of interests as we all fight tooth and nail over our short term interests. Ordinary citizens only have a few options to try to make a difference: Use less electricity, get an electric car, eat organic. Can you imagine what we could accomplish if we could put our minds together and focus our intentions on solving this crisis of crises, the metacrisis. Forby is being designed to improve our ability to coordinate in large groups. It’s based on the concept of liquid democracy: Everyone can vote on everything, but people can also delegate their vote to any other member, on the condition that they can see the voting of the one they delegate to. Liquid democracy is only possible with modern computing, and it may be the only way out between the two dark futures we face: Chaos and inability to coordinate on one hand, and authoritarian rule on the other. Please help with the development and planning of this new process. It may be our only hope toward a brighter future.

Forby: Collaborative Intelligence and Sensemaking

What is Forby?

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Bonjour à tous !

Hello. I did watch the episode with the current proble....i mean challenges. I am talking about the one with hot water I think i might have an idea. My idea kinda wacks 2 birds with one stone. Why don't you buy a wood fired water heater. 1. you don't use gas and don't endorse that industry at all and 2. you have tons of mimosa trees laying around

@BigStan weather you endorse oil and gas or not, natural gas is the most efficient way of heating things. Now, you may not like this, but you can get "green" natural gas from composting. As things decompose one of the gasses is natural gas and another is methane. If you enclose your compost you can pull off the gasses and use to heat things. Yes, I know what I'm talking about, my design is working at 37 landfills in the US.

@datastreamcowboy you mean heating water by matter of flame? I heard that electrical energy has the highest efficiency around 90% while methane han around 30% And at a small scale, hasn’t a cannister of gas a higher carbon footprint overall (transport logistics etc) than burning wood you have around?

9:29 PM

@datastreamcowboy congrats on the project

9:30 PM

When i am talking efficiency i mean like for boiling 1 gallon of water for example

And most common electrical generation in North America is natural gas

We can go in circles here. My neighbor bought a tesla for the environment, our power comes from burning natural gas and lignite to make steam to turn a turbine. Effectively a coal powered tesla.

See.. im not a doom and gloomer on the environment. I'm more practical. I think you should treat the world like aa campsite and leave it a little cleaner than you found it. I think you should recycle. I'm not against green energy, but it's just not viable yet. We still need fossil fuels. We are in the stage of needing diversity in energy production. Green energy will have its day, but not yet. The only way to make it better is by using and improving. We also need battery technology that isn't worse on the environment than a diesel truck. I would also add that battery technology is a decade or 2 behind consumer needs. I live in Texas. We generate more green energy and fossil fuel energy than any other state. I can take you a few miles from my house where they bury decommissioned windmills. The blades are toxic to reprocess and the generators are of no use, so there are acres of them buried.

datastreamcowboy

See.. im not a doom and gloomer on the environment. I'm more practical. I think you should treat the world like aa campsite and leave it a little cleaner than you found it. I think you should recycle. I'm not against green energy, but it's just not viable yet. We still need fossil fuels. We are in the stage of needing diversity in energy production. Green energy will have its day, but not yet. The only way to make it better is by using and improving. We also need battery technology that isn't worse on the environment than a diesel truck. I would also add that battery technology is a decade or 2 behind consumer needs. I live in Texas. We generate more green energy and fossil fuel energy than any other state. I can take you a few miles from my house where they bury decommissioned windmills. The blades are toxic to reprocess and the generators are of no use, so there are acres of them buried.

Have you heard of salt water battery’s ?

@Alex_recycles and creates yes. It's a promising technology

datastreamcowboy

See.. im not a doom and gloomer on the environment. I'm more practical. I think you should treat the world like aa campsite and leave it a little cleaner than you found it. I think you should recycle. I'm not against green energy, but it's just not viable yet. We still need fossil fuels. We are in the stage of needing diversity in energy production. Green energy will have its day, but not yet. The only way to make it better is by using and improving. We also need battery technology that isn't worse on the environment than a diesel truck. I would also add that battery technology is a decade or 2 behind consumer needs. I live in Texas. We generate more green energy and fossil fuel energy than any other state. I can take you a few miles from my house where they bury decommissioned windmills. The blades are toxic to reprocess and the generators are of no use, so there are acres of them buried.

The windmill is incorrect based off dated information. We do have the current supply and that can atleast be upcycled: https://www.up-to-us.veolia.com/en/recycling/recycling-used-wind-turbine-blades Moving forward we should be able to recycle modern blades. https://www.powermag.com/siemens-gamesa-launches-worlds-first-fully-recyclable-wind-turbine-blade/

Wind turbine blades are now recyclable

Millions of tons of used wind turbine blades will have to be disposed of over the next few decades. But what should be done with them? An original solution is emerging in the US where used blades turned into brand new cement!

Siemens Gamesa Launches World’s First Fully Recyclable Wind Turbine...

Siemens Gamesa has launched what it says is the world’s first wind turbine blade that can be used at a commercial offshore wind farm and recycled at the

Yes new ones are recyclable... but the millions of blades out there cant

Hello, is there any PP project in progress in Brazil? How can I dicovery about?

2:29 PM

Found it

datastreamcowboy

Yes new ones are recyclable... but the millions of blades out there cant

Why not ?

Because of the resin used is very toxic

datastreamcowboy

Because of the resin used is very toxic

Is it a thermoset based ?

I'm not sure. I was working with Lafarge Holcim in Switzerland on ways to safely grind up blades into cement. The dust created was tested to be very toxic. I have not seen how the blades were made in Belgium.

datastreamcowboy

I'm not sure. I was working with Lafarge Holcim in Switzerland on ways to safely grind up blades into cement. The dust created was tested to be very toxic. I have not seen how the blades were made in Belgium.

Most blades sound like they use a epoxy to glue them in

Correct

3:57 PM

Kinda like a GFR cement, but instead of cement it's an epoxy resin

datastreamcowboy

Kinda like a GFR cement, but instead of cement it's an epoxy resin

So like a thermoset

not necessarily. not all resins are thermoset.

Some are thermoplastics

i have yet to see a thermo plastic windmill blade

Thermoplastics can be recycled again and again

4:53 PM

Their is no limit to it

i dont think thermoplastic is strong enough for a 100' windmill blade

You can make small windmills like vertical ones

Im talking about the big commercial ones

They have a lot of large ones in be the ocean

4:55 PM

By

and in the ocean

If you paint one of the wind turbine blades black less birds get chopped up (edited)

i get birds smashing into my kitchen window

4:57 PM

i got 3 windmills on my property.. have not seen a bird carcass on the ground

It is rare for birds to get killed from wind turbines

i would also add that if not for government subsidies, the windmills wouldnt even pay forthemselves

Alex_recycles and creates

Their is no limit to it

Woahhhhh woah woah, there is a limit. Each thermal cycle causes the polymer chains to break down. If you take the same plastic and melt it 10 times, you might not have plastic anymore.

but when you are recycling batches you wont necessarily notice because not everything will be recycled the same number of times

datastreamcowboy

but when you are recycling batches you wont necessarily notice because not everything will be recycled the same number of times

Or you can do like the big industry does and do a blended mix. But please don't fool yourself and think plastic is some wonderful material that's super circular and sustainable. That mentality made a huge freaking mess.

That wasn't my comment

4:42 AM

I mostly work in PETG due to it's temperature range. On a good day in 15%-20% recycled and the rest new

4:42 AM

Avg 5% to 10% recycled

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Woahhhhh woah woah, there is a limit. Each thermal cycle causes the polymer chains to break down. If you take the same plastic and melt it 10 times, you might not have plastic anymore.

it depends on the polymer

Alex_recycles and creates

it depends on the polymer

I think the only caveat is the process used for recycling plastic. But, if you know of any plastics that dont degrade after being melted and cooled, i'd be interested in learning more about said polymer.

HDPE is like that

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Woahhhhh woah woah, there is a limit. Each thermal cycle causes the polymer chains to break down. If you take the same plastic and melt it 10 times, you might not have plastic anymore.

That was one of my questions - when I see people put all their melted scraps back into the bucket. So I guess either a very small portion of re-recycled or a batch where you specifically know that it's second/third-time melted and may behave differently?

their are thermosets and thermoplastics

1:31 PM

thermosets cant be recycled

1:31 PM

but thermoplastics can be recycled over and over again as long as your not burning it

Even assuming you have a pure polyethylene, every time you melt them you break the carbon chains a little bit, slowly degrading the material. But in a way, if the polymer is pure and clean, you could recycle it a significant amount of time without having too much problem (still not infinite though). In reality, it is never pure and clean, you will likely mix different PE product, even 2 red bottle caps might be produced by different companies, from different resin, with different additive. When you mix them you start diluting properties, or even damaging some plastic from your mix that should have been melted at a different temperature. And then you add the whole layer of not properly sorted and not properly cleaned plastic waste, and the whole recycled product is downgraded.

1:44 PM

So the idea is not to infinitely recycle and use that to justify single use plastic, but to actually produce plastic product for durable application.

thatcanadiangirl (Véro)

That was one of my questions - when I see people put all their melted scraps back into the bucket. So I guess either a very small portion of re-recycled or a batch where you specifically know that it's second/third-time melted and may behave differently?

It depends on the plastic type

Yann

Even assuming you have a pure polyethylene, every time you melt them you break the carbon chains a little bit, slowly degrading the material. But in a way, if the polymer is pure and clean, you could recycle it a significant amount of time without having too much problem (still not infinite though). In reality, it is never pure and clean, you will likely mix different PE product, even 2 red bottle caps might be produced by different companies, from different resin, with different additive. When you mix them you start diluting properties, or even damaging some plastic from your mix that should have been melted at a different temperature. And then you add the whole layer of not properly sorted and not properly cleaned plastic waste, and the whole recycled product is downgraded.

Breaking the carbon chains happens when you burn the plastic

Hi, Im new here. My students and I are learning to use the pp machines, shredder, extruder, and injector. How do we access the Academy portion of the pp website? when we click on it is just blank...

2:43 PM

Are you referring to this URL? https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/intro.html

https://youtu.be/OXjWSO54TGw

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

3:02 PM

If so, try a different browser just in case? It's loading for me

I have tried Chrome and Safari. What browser are you using?

Coach Sabatier

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Try pressing crtl + shift + r, it should refresh and then load. i've had this issue a few times, much more difficult on mobile device if there's an issue

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I think the only caveat is the process used for recycling plastic. But, if you know of any plastics that dont degrade after being melted and cooled, i'd be interested in learning more about said polymer.

Their are thermoplastics and thermosets

Yeah this issue happens all the time, something is broken there with the caching. You can also use incognito browser to open this page if you dont want to reset your cache all the time

Hi people. Can someone help me with finding as much as possible informations about producing recycled beams - Im new here and on Discort so i apologise if im breaking some rules ❤️

Does anyone know of a good proven replacement for the Traco power TXL 015? It’s used in the shredder pro. They stopped producing them, so not sure what else is compatible.

Hi all, did anyone try to laser cut the plastic sheets?

hi

Karsten River

Does anyone know of a good proven replacement for the Traco power TXL 015? It’s used in the shredder pro. They stopped producing them, so not sure what else is compatible.

Easiest way might just be to contact Traco and ask what they're replacing it with in their lineup

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How much plastic waste can the proposed recycling plant handle per month? V4

KingKon

Hi all, did anyone try to laser cut the plastic sheets?

A laser it to hot and you would burn the plastic

Karsten River

Does anyone know of a good proven replacement for the Traco power TXL 015? It’s used in the shredder pro. They stopped producing them, so not sure what else is compatible.

Bro that's just a power supply. Anything specd the same will work. You might just have to drill new mounting holes or make an adapter plate. https://www.tracopower.com/sites/default/files/products/datasheets/txl015_datasheet.pdf

9:51 PM

I don't know which one you have so look at the spec sheet determine the model and look for something with similar wattage and output voltage.

Cool! Thank you

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Karsten River

Cool! Thank you

I hope this goes without saying but make sure you disconnect power before you service any power supply.

KingKon

Hi all, did anyone try to laser cut the plastic sheets?

i laser cut lots of materials. what are you wanting to cut

Does anyone know where to get a 3 phase current limiter for the shredder pro?

I guess I’m just confused on what Amps to get

6:11 AM

I saw that they are using the PKZM01-63 model in their CAD, not too sure if the 63 at the end means 63amps?

6:11 AM

I found ones that are 6.3 amps

Karsten River

Does anyone know where to get a 3 phase current limiter for the shredder pro?

That would be called a VFD- variable frequency drive. The PKZM01-63 is .63 amps. Specs here: https://datasheet.eaton.com/datasheet.php?model=286081&locale=en_GB&_lt= I work with 60amp motors and we use them to drive 4ft dia flywheels . It comes in a drive about 3 ft tall ABB550s.

Oh damn! Thank you again. Learning a bunch!

6:37 AM

There is also one that says 6,3A

Can you give me the full model number?

PKZM01-6,3

That one is 4-6.3A https://datasheet.eaton.com/datasheet.php?model=278483&locale=en_GB&ol=es_ES

Karsten River

PKZM01-6,3

Have you ever worked with 3phase before?

So the system is still for .63Amp? And no I haven’t..

6:48 AM

Also just noticed all of these are rated for 220v, so I’ll prob have to find one for 110

Karsten River

So the system is still for .63Amp? And no I haven’t..

No that is rated to trip out at a range of 4 to 6.3 amps it will have a nob you adjust to select range. Okay yes single phase 110 would be better option and is more accessible. If you can I'd suggest converting it over to DC so that you have a higher torque.

Ok

I’ll look into that.

Karsten River

Ok

I’ll look into that.

Look into vertical mill/ Bridgeport DC motor conversions. It's fairly well documented. But as always be very careful with voltage it can kill you if improperly handled.

Sounds good.. I’ll make sure to be careful

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Please

Can anyone point me to some information about Manduku’s method of extrusion and basket weaving? This is what I want to do, but I have trouble loading his profile page on the website. Mainly, I need to know which plastic he uses that is flexible enough to weave. Any help greatly appreciated! Thank you! (edited)

MamaBabooshka

Please

Can anyone point me to some information about Manduku’s method of extrusion and basket weaving? This is what I want to do, but I have trouble loading his profile page on the website. Mainly, I need to know which plastic he uses that is flexible enough to weave. Any help greatly appreciated! Thank you! (edited)

I believe he's using PP, but I"m not exactly sure!

Joseph

I believe he's using PP, but I"m not exactly sure!

I appreciate it! PP makes sense. I also thought maybe LDPE? (edited)

datastreamcowboy

i laser cut lots of materials. what are you wanting to cut

Do you laser cut acrylic ?

TheGuy

Look into vertical mill/ Bridgeport DC motor conversions. It's fairly well documented. But as always be very careful with voltage it can kill you if improperly handled.

It’s not the voltage that kills it’s the amps

Yes I do

datastreamcowboy

Yes I do

do you have a cnc machine for metals ?

4 cnc mills, cnc lathe and a Las er

where are you located

4:49 PM

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Ohh my dear sweet summer child. While yes amps is what stops your heart. The voltage is what will reach out and touch you from a 4inch air gap. You can have a 5 volt system at 4 amps and it be considered safe to handle per the NFPA. You take that to 50 volts 4 amps it's still considered safe to handle without any protection at any point higher than 50 volts you are then required to handle with increasing protection based on scaling VOLTAGE.( Well it's more in-depth than that based on calories per cm^2) Also most electrical shock victims it is not the amperage that kills them. The fall, being vaporized, infection from burn damage. So yes with a bunch of amateurs messing around with high voltage equipment I will tell them voltage kills because if they cross a non insulated screw driver wrong it a panel/ piece of equipment it can potentially kill them. At 3phass the potential of arc flash is very real and in those situations it's not the Amps that kill you. (edited)

TheGuy

Ohh my dear sweet summer child. While yes amps is what stops your heart. The voltage is what will reach out and touch you from a 4inch air gap. You can have a 5 volt system at 4 amps and it be considered safe to handle per the NFPA. You take that to 50 volts 4 amps it's still considered safe to handle without any protection at any point higher than 50 volts you are then required to handle with increasing protection based on scaling VOLTAGE.( Well it's more in-depth than that based on calories per cm^2) Also most electrical shock victims it is not the amperage that kills them. The fall, being vaporized, infection from burn damage. So yes with a bunch of amateurs messing around with high voltage equipment I will tell them voltage kills because if they cross a non insulated screw driver wrong it a panel/ piece of equipment it can potentially kill them. At 3phass the potential of arc flash is very real and in those situations it's not the Amps that kill you. (edited)

im 20 so Im not a child

Alex_recycles and creates

im 20 so Im not a child

Kid I want you to go watch arc flash videos and understand what you are dealing with in 3 phase. I don't think you grasp the danger of what a slip up can do. Because in less than a second you could completely change your life. Being young I really want to hammer that into your head because I want you to come home in one piece every day.

I know DC but not AC

Alex_recycles and creates

im 20 so Im not a child

It's a saying in English that probably doesn't translate well. "sweet summer child" means that you are still in the learning phase. We were all learners, and still learning

I know I'm always learning something new and I'm over 50. I wish I was a sweet summer child once again.

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Okay, this Discord has beaten me! Someone please explain how I unlock the various channels? The

@contributor instruction is beyond me! Help!

MamaBabooshka

Okay, this Discord has beaten me! Someone please explain how I unlock the various channels? The

@contributor instruction is beyond me! Help!

go to #🖐start-here and react on the channel u re interested - then channels would appear on the pannel - I had the same headache yesterday

aleksandarmasic92

go to #🖐start-here and react on the channel u re interested - then channels would appear on the pannel - I had the same headache yesterday

Ha! Thank you, but I’ve done that and they still appear locked!?!

7:29 PM

see on left how they’re locked? Are these “channels” or something else? @aleksandarmasic92 (edited)

yes - but i dont know why are they locked - wait a second

7:36 PM

mine looks locked also but i can get and chat into them... have you reacted on this

aleksandarmasic92

mine looks locked also but i can get and chat into them... have you reacted on this

Yes, okay…I’ll try chatting and see if it works. Thanks so much for your help

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MamaBabooshka

Yes, okay…I’ll try chatting and see if it works. Thanks so much for your help

Yeah, I can only read, not chat.

MamaBabooshka

Yeah, I can only read, not chat.

Wait! I can. No idea what’s going on! Yeah, I can chat. whew

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I think the lock just indicates that there are restrictions on who can see those channels -- anyone who hasn't picked a role in #👋start-here cannot see them

MamaBabooshka

Wait! I can. No idea what’s going on! Yeah, I can chat. whew

i understand u...i busted my head yesterday

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Graveheist

I think the lock just indicates that there are restrictions on who can see those channels -- anyone who hasn't picked a role in #👋start-here cannot see them

Hi @Graveheist So, I need to pick a role? How do I go about that? Is it different than just selecting a project, e.g. “Precious Plastic” over “Fashion Fix”?

MamaBabooshka

Hi @Graveheist So, I need to pick a role? How do I go about that? Is it different than just selecting a project, e.g. “Precious Plastic” over “Fashion Fix”?

It looks like you already picked one! If you reacted with an emoji in #👋start-here then you were assigned a role that grants you access to those channels. The lock is simply an indicator that there are special permissions on those channels, once you have the role you can chat on them freely.

9:34 PM

For example, I chose the Support role so I can see those channels, but since I didn't select Contributor I cannot see the channels that are locked to that role. If I selected the unicorn emoji the Discord bot would assign me the Contributor role and I'd see ALL the Precious Plastic channels (though they'd still all have the locks indicating they're restricted to only those roles).

9:36 PM

It's mostly just a way to keep the Discord tidy, so that people opt-in for what channels they want to see instead of having to opt-out.

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It's mostly just a way to keep the Discord tidy, so that people opt-in for what channels they want to see instead of having to opt-out.

I see! Thank you v much

My pleasure!

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Interesting to see all the different ways people have added leverage to their plastic injectors I'm wondering why someone hasn't added two pulleys to the lever this adding huge amount more leverage with less space and in a very simple way ?

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Interesting to see all the different ways people have added leverage to their plastic injectors I'm wondering why someone hasn't added two pulleys to the lever this adding huge amount more leverage with less space and in a very simple way ?

Here's another style if you decide to use pneumatic force instead of human force.

much easier to control how much force is applied for repeatability https://youtu.be/sfpjQHcGcHc

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That's really cool

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Here's another style if you decide to use pneumatic force instead of human force.

much easier to control how much force is applied for repeatability https://youtu.be/sfpjQHcGcHc

I built a similar unit to this, it works okay but only 25 gram shot size and not as productive as my log splitter injector.

12:22 AM

FYI Gunter is trying to hijack the entire PP community. I got a email from him. I will not be participating in his fake PP community as he had attacked my instagram account, and sent many nasty threatening messages to my FB page in the past.

@mhpnwcoast I don't have any personal experience with recycling beach waste, but I know it's been done. The plastic tends to be VERY dirty and cleaning is one of the most important parts of the process, so investing in a good cleaning solution would be your first steps to investigate. Would you mind if I sent you a DM?

Graveheist

@mhpnwcoast I don't have any personal experience with recycling beach waste, but I know it's been done. The plastic tends to be VERY dirty and cleaning is one of the most important parts of the process, so investing in a good cleaning solution would be your first steps to investigate. Would you mind if I sent you a DM?

@mhpnwcoast I have some recent experience with beach waste plastic.

5:40 AM

The majority of what we gathered in the International Coastal cleanup was PET. It was kind of sandy. We rinsed off the sand on the beach.

5:42 AM

we sorted the PET by color and grade. The yucky stuff to the pristine clear coke bottle stiff, and the neon green mountain dew bottles. the pristine stuff we crushed and baled to sell to Coke. Coke pays a very good price for PET bottles locally. We removed the caps, and labels, which were put with the HDPE and PP plastics. Those were shredded dried and made into plastic lumber.

5:43 AM

the Neon green mountain dew bottles so far are not sellable locally. But we plan on granulating them once we get a big dual shaft shredder and adding to the plastic lumber mix.

5:44 AM

as long as the percentage of PET is low, you do not have too much issue with PET in the lumber.

5:44 AM

BUT... The PET needs to be shredded fine or it will not mix well,

5:46 AM

and when you are running a PET/PP/HDPE/LDPE mix you probably should be adding in some colorant to get a consistent colored output. Finely powdered charcoal, for black, or Red iron oxide powder for a reddish brown

Butte (PP Philippines)

BUT... The PET needs to be shredded fine or it will not mix well,

What do you mean by not mixing well

you will see small unmelted PET flakes in the beam

5:48 AM

it is the same with foil wrapper, you need to granulate it finely,

5:49 AM

and ideally you need a very long extrusion screw. the v3 screw and the v4 is too short to give it a really good mix

Butte (PP Philippines)

you will see small unmelted PET flakes in the beam

Oh

I have seen a local commercial company using 25% foil and 75% virgin LDPE. the result ends up looking like there is a fine alum paint metal flake in it

5:51 AM

which helps with the UV resistance too

Unrelated question

5:53 AM

Would it be possible to build a boat from plastic lumber or other related stuff

bulldung

Would it be possible to build a boat from plastic lumber or other related stuff

Absolutely

5:55 AM

BUT...

5:55 AM

to do it right and have a sellable product

5:56 AM

you will either have to learn how to do plastic welding of the sheets and beams. which is VERY hard to do and a skill harder to master than tTIG welding

5:57 AM

or you rotomold it, which means either you get a rotomold system, or you contract with a rotomold company

Ok

5:59 AM

I was just wondering

6:01 AM

There was a boat made of plastic already

6:02 AM

https://www.theflipflopi.com/the-flipflopi-dhow

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The FlipFlopi Dhow is being built on the island of Lamu on the Kenya coast and waste plastics will be used to construct the entire boat.

6:02 AM

Wow that’s pretty cool

yes the flip floppi. however that method of building would not transplant well to other countries. A lot of hand work, and the time to build was i think was at least a year. As a concept that plastic can work in a boat, yes. But there are other better examples, such as the Dutch company tidewater boats that welds HDPE sheets together.

6:47 AM

rotomolding, there are many companies around the world that do that. Must more common. I have a boat rotomold shop only 1km from my shop here in the Philippines. their system is pretty basic. a oven exactly the same as a large powdercoat paint oven. Homemade,

6:48 AM

and a rotomold made from laser cut steel and MIG welded together

6:49 AM

I think the v1 or v2 precious plastic design was experimenting with small scale rotomold. there is not much documentation on it other than the pictures

6:50 AM

you do not have to have a rotomold to do a entire boat at one time. You can split the boat into sections that are molded seperate and bolted together. think of those big plastic water tanks.

6:52 AM

lastly and this is highly experimental... is to extrude and mold hot plastic over a form. I have done some work with this with limited success.

6:54 AM

plastic lumber could also be made and built with, but you will need to machine it into tongue and groove and then plastic weld it to make it water tight. it would be the lowest cost to start with, but not as strong as other methods.

6:55 AM

rotomold boat example and plastic road barrier in the background. this is virgin LDPE but the factory engineer told me they can use recycled HDPE flake as long as we were not strict about the color result.

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7:00 AM

with the extrude and hand mold method, the best example I have seen is the table that the guys at the HQ made for actor Will Smith's son. those guys would have to chime in on that. From what I recall, they extruded, hand molded and shaped using a electric wood plane.

7:05 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlsAw1LlnCs this is the extrude and hand mold method. you would need a form to work with

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rotomold boat example and plastic road barrier in the background. this is virgin LDPE but the factory engineer told me they can use recycled HDPE flake as long as we were not strict about the color result.

I think this method is better

Butte (PP Philippines)

rotomold boat example and plastic road barrier in the background. this is virgin LDPE but the factory engineer told me they can use recycled HDPE flake as long as we were not strict about the color result.

Ya

Graveheist

@mhpnwcoast I don't have any personal experience with recycling beach waste, but I know it's been done. The plastic tends to be VERY dirty and cleaning is one of the most important parts of the process, so investing in a good cleaning solution would be your first steps to investigate. Would you mind if I sent you a DM?

Thanks for the insight. Absolutely - send a DM if you wish. Cheers!

Butte (PP Philippines)

we sorted the PET by color and grade. The yucky stuff to the pristine clear coke bottle stiff, and the neon green mountain dew bottles. the pristine stuff we crushed and baled to sell to Coke. Coke pays a very good price for PET bottles locally. We removed the caps, and labels, which were put with the HDPE and PP plastics. Those were shredded dried and made into plastic lumber.

Thanks for the insight Butte! Very helpful.

Do you guys think rotary phase converters would be to advanced for these guys? I was thinking about putting some documents up for it. At the same time I worry that it's information that could potentially do more harm than good for alot of people starting out. I just see alot of people convert over to single phase. Price wise I could build up to 50HP rotary phase converter for less than $1000. I was thinking of releasing a 15-20HP guide that would allow for a 50Amp sub panel at 240V or 25Amp at 480V

can you help me recommend valid journal references regarding recycled plastic raw materials and modular flat pack stools?

6:35 AM

or handbook (edited)

ige

can you help me recommend valid journal references regarding recycled plastic raw materials and modular flat pack stools?

https://u1lib.org/ Search till your heart's content. I'd recommend looking into injection molding books. I never searched specifically for recycled myself. Flat packs look pretty easy to make. A local machine shop could probably make you a die for a reasonable price 250-2000 would be my estimate. Depending on how you want to make it. In my mind easiest way would be to have a negative cavity place one sheet table fill with material and press then shave off excess will most likely want vents to allow air to escape and material to properly flow. Are you familiar with CAD? It would be pretty simple to take a image of a flat pack you like and trace it in CAD dimension it then use that for a schematic. You could even test fit it in 3D modeling programs. (edited)

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i'm familiar with 3d model like rhinoceros and blender but autocad i i've never touch it. i appreciate you, thanks @TheGuy

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i'm familiar with 3d model like rhinoceros and blender but autocad i i've never touch it. i appreciate you, thanks @TheGuy

https://www.cadsketcher.com/ It's a blender add on that allows for CAD it's still very new (only a few months old). But for something like what you want I think it would work. FreeCAD is my next go to. I'm more familiar with SOLIDWORKS vs AutoCAD so it felt a little more native for me. You could always just design in a 3D modeling program then scale in some 3D printing program. If you go this way you will want to export the model as .iges it's a fairly old file format that was used in CNC so most modern shops should be able to take it and extract dimensions from it. (edited)

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what different about upcycle and recycle?. a little confused here

I would say that in recycling you return to the base state of the material before making something else when in upcycling you use directly a part of the object

Have anyone develop a colour sorting machine for the bottle caps?

Hello everyone! Just new on this platform. We will organize in 2023 an event about Antwerp Artists and would like to cooperate with precious plastics. Not only we would like to motivate these artists to make their own art piece in precious plastic, but would also like to invite Dave Hakkens for a conference in Antwerp. Do you know how we could reach him? Many thanks. Vinci

Hi! I'm new here. I hope I'm posting in the correct channel, please forgive me if I’m wrong. I am a monk in Bangladesh, and we have half an idea to start something here. The way of disposing of plastic here is literally: just chuck it on the floor… There is rubbish everywhere. We work with many kinds of people: street kids who survive by doing odd jobs, like collecting paper and metal rubbish and reselling it. Disabled people who can do simple tasks. People from very poor backgrounds who could use a job. We have time, space, can find donors, and motivation. We lack mostly technical knowledge on how to build and feed those machines. Reading the website helped, but I'm still not sure where to start. We would probably need to build the whole production chain from scrap. We were thinking something amongst those lines: have the kids and their parents from the slums collect the plastic, have some people to man the machines, and some disabled people to make the output into a product. We could probably sell anything as long as it is a viable product: we have channels where we already sell handicraft and I have people who are good at the business side of things. I have some contacts back in Europe who would be ready to invest in the machines, and even maybe help us build them. Does that sound like something that would be feasible? (edited)

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Have anyone develop a colour sorting machine for the bottle caps?

https://www.cognex.com/products/machine-vision/vision-tools/rule-based-tools/color-tools Cognex has a good system( I absolutely hate all vision systems in an automated setup). Basically you'd setup the eye then use an air jet or flapper to knock colors into a bin. Once you get it programmed it's highly reliable. This is more or less industrial level but I don't believe they are extremely expensive. I never footed that bill myself.

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Hello all ! Just new to the platform. We are new to the community and we start to work on recycling plastics. We are from France. We already have a place, two shredders and a 3d printer. We would like to add our pin to the map. We have check some stars of ally program but our pin is not visible yet. Thanks

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Hi! I'm new here. I hope I'm posting in the correct channel, please forgive me if I’m wrong. I am a monk in Bangladesh, and we have half an idea to start something here. The way of disposing of plastic here is literally: just chuck it on the floor… There is rubbish everywhere. We work with many kinds of people: street kids who survive by doing odd jobs, like collecting paper and metal rubbish and reselling it. Disabled people who can do simple tasks. People from very poor backgrounds who could use a job. We have time, space, can find donors, and motivation. We lack mostly technical knowledge on how to build and feed those machines. Reading the website helped, but I'm still not sure where to start. We would probably need to build the whole production chain from scrap. We were thinking something amongst those lines: have the kids and their parents from the slums collect the plastic, have some people to man the machines, and some disabled people to make the output into a product. We could probably sell anything as long as it is a viable product: we have channels where we already sell handicraft and I have people who are good at the business side of things. I have some contacts back in Europe who would be ready to invest in the machines, and even maybe help us build them. Does that sound like something that would be feasible? (edited)

Find a product everyone uses and become competitive in that market and you should be fine. Your plan sounds like it would work but do you have a local market for the product or will it have to be shipped abroad? Then you have operating costs do you have people who are knowledgeable enough and can maintain the equipment? Electrical costs, packaging, man power. Sounds like you want to keep people busy while earning some income. This will be harder to maintain in slow business cycles especially starting out. You are going to have high initial overhead then operating costs ontop of it.

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can you watch videos ahead with the 1st tier on Patreon?

7:38 PM

i wanna see moreee!

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https://www.cognex.com/products/machine-vision/vision-tools/rule-based-tools/color-tools Cognex has a good system( I absolutely hate all vision systems in an automated setup). Basically you'd setup the eye then use an air jet or flapper to knock colors into a bin. Once you get it programmed it's highly reliable. This is more or less industrial level but I don't believe they are extremely expensive. I never footed that bill myself.

Have you tried this before or have you had any experience with it before? Thanks.

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Have you tried this before or have you had any experience with it before? Thanks.

Yea we used cognex to detect label position on bottles as well as improperly aligned of pouring spouts on bottles. It wasn't in recycling but it was a production environment at 100-300 bottles per minute.

https://www.sick.com/us/en/color-sensors/color-sensors/csm/csm-wp11122p/p/p355445 This one looks pretty much point click simple. Sick sensors are some of my favorites. The photo reflective eyes are great. You could get a hand full of these set the range for the specific color. I haven't used these color sensors personally but I can attest to their other sensors. (edited)

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Find a product everyone uses and become competitive in that market and you should be fine. Your plan sounds like it would work but do you have a local market for the product or will it have to be shipped abroad? Then you have operating costs do you have people who are knowledgeable enough and can maintain the equipment? Electrical costs, packaging, man power. Sounds like you want to keep people busy while earning some income. This will be harder to maintain in slow business cycles especially starting out. You are going to have high initial overhead then operating costs ontop of it.

Thank you for your input. We have several ideas for a product. We know already how to sell stuff on a local market and abroad. Since the power grid in Bangladesh is not exactly reliable, we are in contact with people who install solar panels. We have people for packaging, but maintaining the equipment may be a problem in the long run... We also are fully prepared for the fact that it may take time before generating any income. Thank you again for your precise questions, it will help me to pitch the project better. (edited)

Raph

Thank you for your input. We have several ideas for a product. We know already how to sell stuff on a local market and abroad. Since the power grid in Bangladesh is not exactly reliable, we are in contact with people who install solar panels. We have people for packaging, but maintaining the equipment may be a problem in the long run... We also are fully prepared for the fact that it may take time before generating any income. Thank you again for your precise questions, it will help me to pitch the project better. (edited)

A good rule of thumb when buying equipment is to have one machine assembled and another one minus the frame in parts. This will minimize downtime and guarantee you have what you need to fix everything should it break. Another option is to have two fully assembled machines and rotate them out for service. When one goes down fire the other one up and rebuild the broken one. The problem with the second method is people get greedy and just run both pieces of equipment. This isn't an issue if you don't mind one going down or paying overnight freight/ courrier fees to bring it back up as soon as possible. These are of course methods for a full scale production line with quotas where down time is lost income. If you don't intend to operate at such a level basic consumables would be the bare minimum I'd recommend keeping on the shelf.

Wongsatorn.j

Have anyone develop a colour sorting machine for the bottle caps?

Nothing as serious as what @TheGuy is talking about but I had plans to make something like a rotating wheel that worked sort of like a coin slot to pull out one bottlecap at a time, move to an optical sensor, sense the color and match it with a specific color range group (sensor pushes out 3 different color values), and then place the caps in whatever category definition they fit in. I had the basics of it written in micropython for a wemos d1 mini... But never went beyond this as my attention went elsewhere.

hey is there an open source design for an automated injection molding machine/

1:40 PM

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Petaparsec

hey is there an open source design for an automated injection molding machine/

this might be what you are looking for: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/log-splitter-injector-upgrade

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Need a little more power, or just feeling lazy? We've upgraded our PP injection mould machine using a 5T log splitter - this has made a world of difference to our production capabilities. In these videos, we discuss how we did it, as well as our process for creating thick parts. Note: THIS UPGRADE IS DANGEROUS! Please take care with hydraulic m...

Hii, I am a Senior High School student from the Philippines, and I am wondering if there is a download-kit for the bio press machine?

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Hii, I am a Senior High School student from the Philippines, and I am wondering if there is a download-kit for the bio press machine?

it is in the download pack

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We have been running into a issue with getting waste plastic lately over here on the tropical island. the Chinese buyers are coming in and buying everything. Scrap plastic like PP clear is nearly 75 centsUSD per kilo and used plastic washing machines are around 90cents USD. We are now buying directly from the government trash sort facilities. We did not think of buying direct from the gov places until recently so we was very short on material which affected production. Only 800 kilos was processed in October because of weather, (cant dry the shred) and supply issues. We hope to get ahead in production soon though with the bigger extrusion machine running (2x the length of the v4pro) and we managed to get over 1.5 tons of plastic from 3 municipal waste facilities, and another 700+ kilos of ocean plastic inbound. (beach collection) Biggest hurdle is going from small artisan production to big commercial production now. Especially when the only finding comes from machine and product sales. I am hearing from plastic industry people is that recycled plastic will become a lot more in demand due to the current supply chain issues, and high oil prices. So expect that plastic will be come more precious. PP niche however is finding ways to recycle the stuff the big boys will not process or can not process. Especially the residual waste plastics.

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Petaparsec

hey is there an open source design for an automated injection molding machine/

not really open source but andys machines youtube and patreon has some designs you can get with a 1usd patreon donation.

Butte (PP Philippines)

We have been running into a issue with getting waste plastic lately over here on the tropical island. the Chinese buyers are coming in and buying everything. Scrap plastic like PP clear is nearly 75 centsUSD per kilo and used plastic washing machines are around 90cents USD. We are now buying directly from the government trash sort facilities. We did not think of buying direct from the gov places until recently so we was very short on material which affected production. Only 800 kilos was processed in October because of weather, (cant dry the shred) and supply issues. We hope to get ahead in production soon though with the bigger extrusion machine running (2x the length of the v4pro) and we managed to get over 1.5 tons of plastic from 3 municipal waste facilities, and another 700+ kilos of ocean plastic inbound. (beach collection) Biggest hurdle is going from small artisan production to big commercial production now. Especially when the only finding comes from machine and product sales. I am hearing from plastic industry people is that recycled plastic will become a lot more in demand due to the current supply chain issues, and high oil prices. So expect that plastic will be come more precious. PP niche however is finding ways to recycle the stuff the big boys will not process or can not process. Especially the residual waste plastics.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but I thought China banned the import of PP in 2018? Did they go back on that?

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this might be what you are looking for: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/log-splitter-injector-upgrade

what about using a hydraulic car jack?

Hiiii community

, I want to know if there is any component to add to plastic to make 3d filament printer Thank you in advance

Petaparsec

what about using a hydraulic car jack?

too slow, you need a fast shot of plastic to fill the mold before the plastic freezes.

Hi Everybody! I am working in plastic recycling projects. An important aspect is the energy usage. The polysteryne is solvable in benzine. This can be a way to shaping foamed products to pellet.(food box,cigarette filter,EPS) Will the material be the same after solving and drying?

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I think I got them all now? Let me know if I missed any.

seems good

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hello, there is a spanish group?

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hello, there is a spanish group?

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Hello lovely ppl - I'm about to make my first sheets of acrylic in a press, but it's just occurred to me I have no idea whether acrylic sticks to the aluminium - would I need to use release agent of some sort?

3:47 PM

If anyone has experience, it'd be helpful so I don't waste an alu sheet or two

@PPCapiSpain hola y bendiciones desde Lima me construí la inyectora de plastico manual pero tengo un problema que diferencia de diámetros debe haber entre el tubo del cañón y el interior en otras palabras cual es el juego de tolerancias entre el cañón y el pistón? Por que si es muy grande pierdo presión y si es muy pequeña se me atasca como me pasó

Hi all - I've been 3d printing for a few years now and I've settled on a couple designs that I would like to produce from recycled plastic and some type of compression mold. But my first attempts at trying to get something simple to work has not been very successful. What I tried was manually shredding a couple PET bottles and put the shreds in a cleaned out tuna fish can in my oven just to see if I could get it to melt. It wasn't hot enough at 500 degrees (I'm guessing my oven may say 500 but it's not quite there) - I've been searching for an oven that gets hotter and I'm having a tough time finding something on amazon or walmart. As you can tell, I'm super new to this so any suggestions on getting started?

in2i2on

Hi all - I've been 3d printing for a few years now and I've settled on a couple designs that I would like to produce from recycled plastic and some type of compression mold. But my first attempts at trying to get something simple to work has not been very successful. What I tried was manually shredding a couple PET bottles and put the shreds in a cleaned out tuna fish can in my oven just to see if I could get it to melt. It wasn't hot enough at 500 degrees (I'm guessing my oven may say 500 but it's not quite there) - I've been searching for an oven that gets hotter and I'm having a tough time finding something on amazon or walmart. As you can tell, I'm super new to this so any suggestions on getting started?

PET isn't super friendly for working with. Most of us here focus on HDPE, LDPE, and PP.

1:32 AM

I dont think I've seen anyone use PET with compression moulds. Typically it's PP or HDPE for compression moulding. I'm not saying you can't but I'm saying it's going to be a very difficult task. My tip for you is to try with one of the other plastics first. Heck, you can try PLA too if you use that for 3d printing. Just dont mix it with PET.

Ok - yeah, I was noticing every machine on the precious plastic site doesn't list PET as input. I'll give PP a shot. What I'm trying to make are some shelf organizers. Just the little storage containers - stackable - that sort of thing. They're fairly common to print, but making a bunch is time consuming on a 3d printer. Each one could take 8-10 hours to print. The next problem I'm mulling over is how to make it. I was going to make two parts of the mould in a modeling tool and outsource the mould pieces in aluminum, but an injection mould I was told wouldn't work since some of the containers are about the size of a shoebox. There was some other mechanism called vaccuum forming? But it seemed like the plastic is rather thin and wouldn't be sturdy enough for a container that I'll use to hold screws and bolts and such. So seems like a compression mould may be the way to go?

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PET isn't super friendly for working with. Most of us here focus on HDPE, LDPE, and PP.

Many thanks for the feedback Ben!

in2i2on

Ok - yeah, I was noticing every machine on the precious plastic site doesn't list PET as input. I'll give PP a shot. What I'm trying to make are some shelf organizers. Just the little storage containers - stackable - that sort of thing. They're fairly common to print, but making a bunch is time consuming on a 3d printer. Each one could take 8-10 hours to print. The next problem I'm mulling over is how to make it. I was going to make two parts of the mould in a modeling tool and outsource the mould pieces in aluminum, but an injection mould I was told wouldn't work since some of the containers are about the size of a shoebox. There was some other mechanism called vaccuum forming? But it seemed like the plastic is rather thin and wouldn't be sturdy enough for a container that I'll use to hold screws and bolts and such. So seems like a compression mould may be the way to go?

You've got options with how to make this. If you don't want to get too complicated and dont plan on running a huge production, make sheets. With sheets you can cut them to whatever size you need and make storage containers.

3:21 AM

do check this out! You'll find some very useful info here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to?search=sheet

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What would I then do with the sheet? Vacuum form?

3:21 AM

Ok - reading that link

It's not pretty but here's my trash bin.

oh interesting. I could then cut the sheet and just assemble it like a box?

Yep. There's different ways to put together sheets. Can be screws or can be plastic welded together or if you get creative you can make an interlocking design for the sheets

Super cool. Thanks again! How about tools? For example, if I wanted to use a router on the sheet or a drill - it'll get pretty hot so I'm not sure what kinds of tooling I can do on a PP sheet?

3:27 AM

Looks like that site answered that question - I'm seeing folks use table saws and drills on the sheets

HDPE is more friendly for CNC and router usage. PP has issues if you don't address the heat. Most wood working tools work on the plastic, so just give it a try. Don't be scared, the plastic won't bite you. Just be careful with the tools and sharp edges.

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Hi I’ve been trying to wrap my head around the electrical drawings for the plastic sheet press. On the bottom plate, the blue wire from the 300W cartridge heater is not connected to the 32A ceramic plate, is it supposed to be? see the green highlighted connection in the picture I’ve attached

Hello Team, I really liked your work that you have done or doing… it’s a really great initiative

I myself is working on a project which lead me here

I am working on used coffee grounds… making cups out of it… mixing it with natural & bio degradable materials like agar agar, starch, plant based glue & have achieved a solid structure through it… The only problem i am having is … that it is not waterproof as soon as it gets in water … it loses its solidified shape & get broken…. CAN ANYONE HELP ME IN THIS, IN MAKING IT WATERPROOF & SOLID AT THE SAME TIME… ANY MATERIAL OR PRODUCT THAT IS COMPLETELY BIO DEGRADABLE THAT I CAN ADD IN IT…. Thanks a ton

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sonOfOdin

Hello Team, I really liked your work that you have done or doing… it’s a really great initiative

I myself is working on a project which lead me here

I am working on used coffee grounds… making cups out of it… mixing it with natural & bio degradable materials like agar agar, starch, plant based glue & have achieved a solid structure through it… The only problem i am having is … that it is not waterproof as soon as it gets in water … it loses its solidified shape & get broken…. CAN ANYONE HELP ME IN THIS, IN MAKING IT WATERPROOF & SOLID AT THE SAME TIME… ANY MATERIAL OR PRODUCT THAT IS COMPLETELY BIO DEGRADABLE THAT I CAN ADD IN IT…. Thanks a ton

I haven’t tried pressure moulding it yet… can it work?

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Yes you are correct without that connection you have one leg on an open circuit. The only one it might work on is zone 3 which will be running leg to leg so you will get 208v and that's only because the neutral wire connects to both legs. In my opinion you should have 3 zones and then run leg to leg. So you would do L1-L2 L2-L3 L1-L3 it looks as if they are attempting load balancing but it is mixing high voltage with low. That is how we ran our bundlers shrink tunnels at my old job.

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@sonOfOdin

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@Sara-Momo

Revised it. This way if a leg fails it will still maintain even heating on the remaining legs. It should heat faster and have an even load distribution. I didn't draw connections each leg but they are labeled so hopefully that makes sense.

TheGuy

Revised it. This way if a leg fails it will still maintain even heating on the remaining legs. It should heat faster and have an even load distribution. I didn't draw connections each leg but they are labeled so hopefully that makes sense.

What app did you use to make the schematic?

zws

What app did you use to make the schematic?

I just edited the sheet press schematic in paint.

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TheGuy

Revised it. This way if a leg fails it will still maintain even heating on the remaining legs. It should heat faster and have an even load distribution. I didn't draw connections each leg but they are labeled so hopefully that makes sense.

I’ll definitely sit down with it and review it! I appreciate you taking the time to do that. Very helpful. Cheers

sonOfOdin

Hello Team, I really liked your work that you have done or doing… it’s a really great initiative

I myself is working on a project which lead me here

I am working on used coffee grounds… making cups out of it… mixing it with natural & bio degradable materials like agar agar, starch, plant based glue & have achieved a solid structure through it… The only problem i am having is … that it is not waterproof as soon as it gets in water … it loses its solidified shape & get broken…. CAN ANYONE HELP ME IN THIS, IN MAKING IT WATERPROOF & SOLID AT THE SAME TIME… ANY MATERIAL OR PRODUCT THAT IS COMPLETELY BIO DEGRADABLE THAT I CAN ADD IN IT…. Thanks a ton

https://www.ecopoxy.com/eu/about-us/ this is the only plant-based epoxy I know of with no petrolium based ingredients. It's still an epoxy hardener, so very durable.

EcoPoxy natural resins are manufactured by EcoPoxy, a leader in research and development of high bio-content epoxy resins. Read about our initiatives.

TheGuy

Revised it. This way if a leg fails it will still maintain even heating on the remaining legs. It should heat faster and have an even load distribution. I didn't draw connections each leg but they are labeled so hopefully that makes sense.

Am I seeing this right? You're suggesting connecting L1/L2 or L2/L3 or L1/L3 to the heaters? Might need to find different spec heaters if that's the case.

So now I have to explain this. For me it's like this: Phase voltage is 220v Line voltage is 380v Phase voltage is the voltage between the line and neutral. Line voltage is between two lines (like L1/L2). If you're going to do this, make sure your heaters have a proper voltage rating. If you're in the USA you typically will have a split phase connection for 220/240v which is another conversation as it is not 3 phase.

It's assuming it's a 208/110 delta or wye. Yes if you have incoming 480 then leg to neural would get the same Voltage.

The voltages should be documented. This is the difficulty of designing machines for various regions. The documents should cover all major regions and wiring standards. Here in the us 208/110 and 480/220 are common for an industrial setting. My mind went to 208. As it's "safer" than 480V. Even in the previous comment I made you can see I was referencing 208 as leg to leg voltage.

Sara-Momo

Hi I’ve been trying to wrap my head around the electrical drawings for the plastic sheet press. On the bottom plate, the blue wire from the 300W cartridge heater is not connected to the 32A ceramic plate, is it supposed to be? see the green highlighted connection in the picture I’ve attached

If you are in Europe, I will highly recommend that you use the electric system from the 2.3 version (that you can apply to older built as well). It used 400V heater so it is plugged between phases, and not between and phase and the neutral.

Hi all, not sure if this has been asked before though I wasn't able to find anything. I am looking to get the process started purchasing land in Portugal from international, I understand I need to get a NIF number, would anyone be able to point me in the right direction of this stage and any next steps if possible? Cheers!

Hi there, I wanted to share a nice experience (of this last year) that I would recommend if you are starting something by yourself or with a small team. I meet up online once a month with 3 people. The thing we have in common is that we are creating something (precious plastic workspace, a youtube channel, and a yoga studio). All of us have completely different challenges or things we walk into. But somehow by meeting up and talking through each other month we can help and support each other. Just by having it seen from other perspectives. Our structure for these meetings is very simple: 1. check in with each other how we are doing at the moment 2. Go through the 3 company goals we had for last month

How did they go
What could be done differently
Any tips and tricks

3. What are the company goals for the upcoming month

Suggestions to achieve them And that is it It takes us 1 hour a month and it really helps us to feel less lonely in the thinking and working process. Helps us stay focussed and really achieve our goals. Get tips and tricks out of corners you didn't think of at all.

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Julie

Hi there, I wanted to share a nice experience (of this last year) that I would recommend if you are starting something by yourself or with a small team. I meet up online once a month with 3 people. The thing we have in common is that we are creating something (precious plastic workspace, a youtube channel, and a yoga studio). All of us have completely different challenges or things we walk into. But somehow by meeting up and talking through each other month we can help and support each other. Just by having it seen from other perspectives. Our structure for these meetings is very simple: 1. check in with each other how we are doing at the moment 2. Go through the 3 company goals we had for last month

How did they go
What could be done differently
Any tips and tricks

3. What are the company goals for the upcoming month

Suggestions to achieve them And that is it It takes us 1 hour a month and it really helps us to feel less lonely in the thinking and working process. Helps us stay focussed and really achieve our goals. Get tips and tricks out of corners you didn't think of at all.

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That's a great idea! Reminds me of retrospectives we did as part of the Scrum process at my previous job

I'm about to try an experiment but wanted to reach out to see if there's anything potentially wrong with this idea. I am struggling with figuring out how to create a mould from my 3d prints. I considered lost wax casting style, but the equipment and time commitment to create one mould while prototyping is extensive (print, polish, cast, burn off, forge, pour, hope.

) Given I'm working with PP from this forum's advice - and PETg has a melting point significantly hotter than PP - could I create my moulds in PETg? Hmmm - I may be answering my own question here - could they sustain the pressure of a compression mould? The idea came from this image:

4:41 PM

They used Nylon (that's pretty hard to print, but not impossible) Curious if anyone has had experience doing this?

Hi everyone, I am working with a school team to create the Sheetpress. I'm working on wiring the electrical box, but have no experience with wiring of any sort. I have a few questions regarding the diagram and if anyone can answer them it would be so greatly appreciated!!!! (please as simple as possible hahaha)

1) These are the cartridge heaters we bought: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832680957613.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.564f5a002eSsCx&algo_pvid=452428f3-a649-40ee-916b-66b5fecae41a&algo_expid=452428f3-a649-40ee-916b-66b5fecae41a-3&btsid=df7c8627-0269-4d8c-90bc-8c5d3f12df73&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_5%2Csearchweb201603_55&gatewayAdapt=nld2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US Since the sheetpress already has 2 K-type thermocouples, is it okay for us to cut the white wires (the thermocouple wire) without effecting the rest of the cartridge heater? 2) In the wire diagram, there are wires that connect the SSR and the PID controller. (the small red and blue ones). Since they are connected to the fork terminals: these are the specs from the ones we bought: Material: Fully Insulated Plastic + Copper RED- AWG 22-16(0.5-1.5mm²), USA screw 8#, Max current: 19A BLUE- AWG 16-14(1.5-2.5mm²), USA screw 8#,Max current: 27A YELLOW- AWG 12-10(4-6mm²), USA screw 8#,Max current: 48A Used For Electrical Repair - A Handy Assortment Of Terminals And Connectors Included For Quick Electrical Repairs Would 16 gauge wire (red and black) be okay to use?

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3) In the wiring diagram, what do the black, gray, and blue wires represent? I was just assuming the it would be power and ground and that we would be able to connect the power and ground of the cartridge heater to the 5 core wire, but the difference in colors is confusing me.

7:09 PM

If anyone has built the sheet press before and has pictures of any of the wiring they did of the electrical box, please DM me @everyone (edited)

Hey @everyone does anyone has troubles to get into the community site? I'm getting 404 error. Already tried deleting cache but didn't worked.

I have a question for @everyone do you work with making things with HDPE? If you do my question is do I need to remove the labels from printed labels? Like the labels on coffee canisters.

Aregorn Ariles

I have a question for @everyone do you work with making things with HDPE? If you do my question is do I need to remove the labels from printed labels? Like the labels on coffee canisters.

If you plan on melting the hdpe I would say yes remove the labels

Beetle

If you plan on melting the hdpe I would say yes remove the labels

The problem is the label I am talking about are not the type you can peel off they are printed / infused to the plastic. like the labels on the folgers canister.

Maybe nail polish remover or alcohol can get if off

Okay, I will give that a try. Thanks.

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What’s the difference between upcycling and recycling

bulldung

What’s the difference between upcycling and recycling

Typically, upcycling is taking something and refurbishing it / repurposing it for another use; recycling is taking something and breaking it down and using the component parts to create something new. That’s a little oversimplified, but it is generally how I understand the difference between the two.

lia sideris

1) These are the cartridge heaters we bought: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832680957613.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.564f5a002eSsCx&algo_pvid=452428f3-a649-40ee-916b-66b5fecae41a&algo_expid=452428f3-a649-40ee-916b-66b5fecae41a-3&btsid=df7c8627-0269-4d8c-90bc-8c5d3f12df73&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_5%2Csearchweb201603_55&gatewayAdapt=nld2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US Since the sheetpress already has 2 K-type thermocouples, is it okay for us to cut the white wires (the thermocouple wire) without effecting the rest of the cartridge heater? 2) In the wire diagram, there are wires that connect the SSR and the PID controller. (the small red and blue ones). Since they are connected to the fork terminals: these are the specs from the ones we bought: Material: Fully Insulated Plastic + Copper RED- AWG 22-16(0.5-1.5mm²), USA screw 8#, Max current: 19A BLUE- AWG 16-14(1.5-2.5mm²), USA screw 8#,Max current: 27A YELLOW- AWG 12-10(4-6mm²), USA screw 8#,Max current: 48A Used For Electrical Repair - A Handy Assortment Of Terminals And Connectors Included For Quick Electrical Repairs Would 16 gauge wire (red and black) be okay to use?

1. The thermocouple is a different circuit than the heater circuit. You can cut it or simply just not use it. 2. Wires from PID to SSR carry DC voltage at low current. 16 gauge is fine, you can go with a smaller wire too if you wanted but 16 gauge works just fine. The PID provides a signal to the SSR which activates the SSR and allows the AC current to flow through the switched part of the SSR. 3. Colors are this: Black - L1 Dark Grey - L2 Light Grey - L3 Blue - Neutral Green - Ground L1, L2, and L3 are hot wires. They will shock the crap out of you.

Aregorn Ariles

The problem is the label I am talking about are not the type you can peel off they are printed / infused to the plastic. like the labels on the folgers canister.

I don't bother trying to remove it. There's prints on bottlecaps too but i dont know anyone who tries to remove the prints. You can incorporate it into your design or if you just shred it to bits, you can do that too. I haven't had any issues with it, just is annoying if you want a specific color but it's contaminated by the colors.

Wait are we supposed to introduce ourselves

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I’m #introduce-yrself

Hello, I tried found in the search box something about PET strap shredder, because i would like to do this machine. Has anyone information or can i talk about this type of the recycling with this shredder?

Hi every one, let me introduce my self first. Im rifqi from @recyclo.goods a small recycling workshop from Medan, Indonesia. We have a difficulties in making plastic sheets from shredded hdpe bottle caps, we dont get a smooth surface from both sides. We make the molds from an aluminium and put in the oven. We make a ldpe sheet smoothly and easily but when it comes to hdpe we got a lot of difficulties. Can anyone give us an advice ? It would be lovely to get respond from anyone of you. Thanks

Greetings people In the last couple of days, I have been trying to get a UV additive for the beams I produce, but from the people I need to get the additive from, I get answers that it is impossible to expect a lifetime of 30 years for recycled HDPE and PP plastics. I also see that a couple of people here have gotten 20+ year plastic ratings so I would like to ask you to tell me what the secret is? I want to make wooden benches and tables from beams that will be exposed to external conditions, so I need it to be as long-lasting as possible. What life expectancy do you think I can expect? thanks p.s additives they offer are: UV PEL-956 CC00042747BG and POLYBATCH® UVK 90 Thanks in forward!

Hi everyone I'm wondering if it's ok to share a fundraiser I'm working on right now

7:25 PM

We need a lot of help but I don't want to come up as a spammer at all!

Yung.Kiki

Hi every one, let me introduce my self first. Im rifqi from @recyclo.goods a small recycling workshop from Medan, Indonesia. We have a difficulties in making plastic sheets from shredded hdpe bottle caps, we dont get a smooth surface from both sides. We make the molds from an aluminium and put in the oven. We make a ldpe sheet smoothly and easily but when it comes to hdpe we got a lot of difficulties. Can anyone give us an advice ? It would be lovely to get respond from anyone of you. Thanks

Lots of advice. 1. Make sure it's not too hot. If it's too hot it will stick to the metal. 2. Use a cover. If you don't cover your plastic while in the oven, it will likely overheat and have a gosong/burnt look. 3. Make sure you are using bottlecaps and not HDPE blow from shampoo bottles. If you don't use enough pressure with that type of plastic when pressing, you will have issues. 4. Make sure you fill your mould with enough plastic. If you do not put enough plastic in your mould, the plastic will not be put under enough pressure while inside the mould. A little overflow is good, it means there's pressure inside your sheet mould.

Hello! Just wondering how long it usually takes to have your pin accepted on the map?

Hey everyone! I was wondering what you would suggest for shredding plastic just to start out with low cost? I have thought of purchasing a small cross cut shredder or a small electric wood chipper. What are your thoughts?

Hello everyone my name is Mukesh Kumar I am from Karnataka I am also preparing the bio places

can the waste material have a characteristic description formula as an index to avoid defects in the injection process such as virgin plastic pellet material?

I mean, what I heard from a senior worker said that the nature of used plastic when recycled is unpredictable. Is it right?

ige

I mean, what I heard from a senior worker said that the nature of used plastic when recycled is unpredictable. Is it right?

It's difficult to say what's mixed in all these plastics. Some have lots of fillers, some dont. After working a workspace for a while, you'll quickly figure out how things work and what to expect. Things will become predicable as you learn the materials.

10:06 AM

Really, you just need the experience and a set of good machines and the material will flow so long as you learn from your results.

Hi there, I'm just thinking about a diy roto-molding project and can't seem to find anybody who made a pulverizer aka atomiser or any plans on how to do it. does anybody here have more info on that. Thanks

Hello I am a biotechnology engineer, I would like to have some answers to some questions about the plastic extruder. Like the standard motor power type needed with RPM please

gama1

Hi there, I'm just thinking about a diy roto-molding project and can't seem to find anybody who made a pulverizer aka atomiser or any plans on how to do it. does anybody here have more info on that. Thanks

damn,that was one of the things i really wanted to do. Its great to see that somebody else is taking it up

5:55 PM

as for the plastic powder,as of now on a small scale it would be easiest to use a small mixer grinder(like those used for food), those in combination with simply freezing the plastic worked well enough to make small batches(200-800g) of powder

5:56 PM

the freezing makes the plastic easier to powder and means it wont clump due to the heat

Does anyone have experience with recycling PC-ABS plastic?

Not yet but we got quite a bit of that material and want to test it in a while...

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

Not yet but we got quite a bit of that material and want to test it in a while...

Awesome, may I ask how you're going to take it on? How will you shred it and process it?

Shred it with a shredder like we do with most other plastics as well. Then we will use a simple thermopress to get a first impression how it melts... Not sure how we will proceed after that. So far we got enough other stuff to do in our workspace

I really wonder how much heat it will require.

7:17 PM

A lot of PC-ABS has TACL added as a filler. I still don't know what it is exactly but mostly I wonder how much that affects recyclability.

Google is talking about 130°C as melting point, but it never hurts to try it yourself and figure out what value works good for your application

DuckDuckGo says 245-265°C

Sounds much more likely, 130°C might be fine for ldpe but for everything else...

I had an idea for recycling, but wasn't sure where to mention it. I had this empty can of Pringles and I realised the bottom is made of metal, much like a soda can, but thicker. I don't know yet how to use it, but it's solid and looks nice. The only problem is that the paper body is glued into it, so removing is is hard.

10:56 PM

At the very least it could be a nice fridge magnet-

if you could find a way to reliably seperate the paper plastic and metal you might be able to process each part of the container into different end products

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nouveau

I had an idea for recycling, but wasn't sure where to mention it. I had this empty can of Pringles and I realised the bottom is made of metal, much like a soda can, but thicker. I don't know yet how to use it, but it's solid and looks nice. The only problem is that the paper body is glued into it, so removing is is hard.

tear + burn?

2:34 PM

cut the paper and burn the remnants away

I think heating with hot air station could help separate the glued paper. The bottom lid is too cool to throw away!

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hi guys, following project camp with water update testing,just fyi: arsenicum is one of the critical compound for testing and info. has got a separate filter for it available in market.

Hi. At my university we are doing the LCA (Life Cycle Assessment) of a shredder we built similar to the PP Shredder Pro. Does anyone know if there's already some info about the impacts of building a Precious Plastic or any other shredding machine? We would like to make a comparison to see how are we doing.

BelenPg

Hi. At my university we are doing the LCA (Life Cycle Assessment) of a shredder we built similar to the PP Shredder Pro. Does anyone know if there's already some info about the impacts of building a Precious Plastic or any other shredding machine? We would like to make a comparison to see how are we doing.

What do you mean "about the impacts"?

how is everyone doing ?

Alex_recycles and creates

how is everyone doing ?

Just basket weaving and watching videos mostly. It's raining.

its raining where I live as well

Weather is strangely warm in Ontario Canada today. Should be snowing or cold but I am outside in a t shirt.

xDoubleATx

Weather is strangely warm in Ontario Canada today. Should be snowing or cold but I am outside in a t shirt.

Yeah, warm-ish 48 F here yesterday. Was able to go out for a walk.

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Hi guys .. is precious plastic products made from pet or other plastic ??

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I’m currently looking for products that absorb pet

Hi everybody, we are currently in Nepal to find solutions for plastic recycling. We want to build a sheetpress but the jack part is very complicated to find. Has anyone ever tried to build a sheetpress with another solution? Like a mechanical jack for example?

Nathan LIORET

Hi everybody, we are currently in Nepal to find solutions for plastic recycling. We want to build a sheetpress but the jack part is very complicated to find. Has anyone ever tried to build a sheetpress with another solution? Like a mechanical jack for example?

I've seen people use ovens to melt plastic into sheets and then move the material to a threaded rod type press.

1:10 PM

You can see it on the right

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They do quite well with this method. I'm not sure if this is just for holding it until it's cool though because typically springs are used so that it helps apply a similar pressure even while the plastic shrinks.

Nathan LIORET

Hi everybody, we are currently in Nepal to find solutions for plastic recycling. We want to build a sheetpress but the jack part is very complicated to find. Has anyone ever tried to build a sheetpress with another solution? Like a mechanical jack for example?

Would a car jack work?

Hey there, Marco from Argentina - just re-found you after a while not entering YouTube. Checking your site a little, your project, the following comes to mind: it simply seems like you're trying to discover something already existing, and I'll dare to say with considerable... growing presence, since decades, and that is permaculture. I'm just trying to be constructive and dissmisive-not of your project, which I quite like and find fascinating in its idiosyncrasy. But, dear brothers and sisters, haven't you isolated yourselves enough and, because of it, lost a bit of a few good things out there? Which is your goal? To distinguish yourselves and proclaim humanity's saviors? Is there time for that? Is time something you consider? ... I really think permaculture could save you a lot of time, sincerely, and hopefully my sincerity is not taken agressively. Regards, Marco.

Hey guys, anyone from Melbourne Victoria here? Keen to catch up with community here.

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Hey there, Marco from Argentina - just re-found you after a while not entering YouTube. Checking your site a little, your project, the following comes to mind: it simply seems like you're trying to discover something already existing, and I'll dare to say with considerable... growing presence, since decades, and that is permaculture. I'm just trying to be constructive and dissmisive-not of your project, which I quite like and find fascinating in its idiosyncrasy. But, dear brothers and sisters, haven't you isolated yourselves enough and, because of it, lost a bit of a few good things out there? Which is your goal? To distinguish yourselves and proclaim humanity's saviors? Is there time for that? Is time something you consider? ... I really think permaculture could save you a lot of time, sincerely, and hopefully my sincerity is not taken agressively. Regards, Marco.

Hey Marco, welcome to discord. I think they're going to need more than just permaculture for a sustainable lifestyle. I think there's a whole lot of different aspects to consider for this sustainable living...and maybe one day they'll touch on this permaculture some day.

Slightquills

Would a car jack work?

not enough extension iirc(for the hydraulic type) (edited)

3:21 PM

and not enough/not evenly distributed force for te screw type jacks iirc

martin123

Hey guys, anyone from Melbourne Victoria here? Keen to catch up with community here.

Might try reaching out in #🥝oceania to find some folks who are local to you

Szilárd

Hello, I tried found in the search box something about PET strap shredder, because i would like to do this machine. Has anyone information or can i talk about this type of the recycling with this shredder?

Hi Szilárd! In case of Hungary the storage and collection of plastic waste needs certification. However I think you wont have serious issues, if you dont think in industrial quantities. In legal sense, you are not allowed to go for it and pick up the waste, but its ok if someone brings it to your place. You can talk with many resturants or companies.

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Hi from north Florida

! Any one else from north Florida here?

9:37 PM

@AmberEnergy im in North Florida too. Jacksonville to be precise. Where are you? I'd like to start up something as well.

sara1129🙌🤍🩷

Hi from north Florida

! Any one else from north Florida here?

I’m from NY

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Alex_recycles and creates

I’m from NY

Just left nyc. Don't miss it

Im not from the city

12:16 AM

I live north from the city

2:49 AM

Attempted to build a mould from petg. Put PP into the base of the petg mould in my toaster oven and that disaster happened.

I know - the heating elements of the toaster oven aren't exactly perfect - but thought I would share

2:50 AM

Next experiment is to try to melt the pp into ... something. And quickly drop it into my petg base and squish it into the shape I want.

2:51 AM

However... not sure how to do that .. quickly. I saw a video of folks extruding and then putting that "goo" into a compression mold.

2:52 AM

My home experiment is something I'm struggling with the "quick" push. All I have is a tuna fish tin

in2i2on

Next experiment is to try to melt the pp into ... something. And quickly drop it into my petg base and squish it into the shape I want.

? What do you mean

bulldung

? What do you mean

see our youtube videos on compression molding...

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening!!!!

2:07 PM

Anyone here from Brazil, who’s already building a workspace?

hello you can check the channel #🍌latin-america to try finding those in brazil

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hi everyone, i'm buying an injection machine but i'm confused about connector. Anyone knows if a guide for the connection is avaible?

oskan93

hi everyone, i'm buying an injection machine but i'm confused about connector. Anyone knows if a guide for the connection is avaible?

There's different styles. One where the nozzle is pointed or others that are threaded. I think you need to make the decision on what style you want to use. I haven't use injection enough to make a solid case for either style.

Ok, thqnk u very much. Do u know how i can recognize different style from the description in pp bazar?

uh oh

10:03 PM

MODS YOU ON?

10:03 PM

@davehakkens bot accounts in the server

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never click any suspicious links fellas you never want to compromise your private information to some random scheme (edited)

is there a simple shredder design that I can build on and have on my balcony?

Does anyone know a place where I can buy small extrusion screws for a project I am doing for recycling 3d printer filament (dimensions I seek are around 12-20mm diameter and 200-300 length) by the way if you know any machinist in europe that would take an individual order like that plz send me some info

Greetings One Army frens. The output screen on my shredder gets clogged often. Shredding HDPE. Shreds will pile up inside shredder. If I run in reverse it clears some of it. Anyone else having this problem with 5mm holes?

@bulldung I tried to put my PETG mould with some PP in the toaster oven. Crash and burn. Didn't work. So now I'm going to try to find a way to make an aluminum mould. Currently my idea is to use a CNC.

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My two parts are fairly simple. I dont know the name of the part that holds the plastic and the part that compresses it from the top side.

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2:11 AM

These two I'm fairly certain I can CNC it from aluminum. Tolerances are ok given its a POC.

this takes guts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpJtVXIFNRc

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currylove

is there a simple shredder design that I can build on and have on my balcony?

I've been curious about doing something like this too, if I happen to find anything in my own search I'll let you know. For starters, there are plans on the Precious Plastic website you could use to make your own, and some kits or pre-made systems you can buy from their bazaar website, if you haven't yet checked those places out.

perispective

I've been curious about doing something like this too, if I happen to find anything in my own search I'll let you know. For starters, there are plans on the Precious Plastic website you could use to make your own, and some kits or pre-made systems you can buy from their bazaar website, if you haven't yet checked those places out.

@currylove https://www.instagram.com/p/CGY5rhwJx3c/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link these guys built a smaller shredder although i would rather just build the normal size.

sumpahsampah.id

Pisau mesin cacah mini, dengan bahan stainless . Bisa utk nyacah sampah plastik skala rumahan, cocok utk yg hobi nya ngolah-ngolah sampah .

Kapasitas: 3-5 kg per jam (tergantung jenis plastik at jenis sampah)
Motor: 0,5 Hp
Kebutuhan listrik: 375 watt

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perispective

I've been curious about doing something like this too, if I happen to find anything in my own search I'll let you know. For starters, there are plans on the Precious Plastic website you could use to make your own, and some kits or pre-made systems you can buy from their bazaar website, if you haven't yet checked those places out.

I've seen those on the precious plastic site . Good place to start, though I'd like to build something smaller. Also doing my own search and we could share ideas if you also manage to find an alternative

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

@currylove https://www.instagram.com/p/CGY5rhwJx3c/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link these guys built a smaller shredder although i would rather just build the normal size.

this looks good

how do i download the plans for the injection molder?

has anyone here registered with plastic bank as a processor?

Just peachy

how do i download the plans for the injection molder?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-an-injection-workspace

Set up an Injection Workspace

In this How-to we’re going to guide you through all the steps to setup an Injection Workspace. Learn about plastic, how to find a space, get the Injection and Shredder machine, find customers and connect to the Precious Plastic Universe. Step 1-3: Intro Step 4-9: Learn Step 10-19: Set up Step 20-25: Run Step 26-29: Share

Hi there! Does anyone know about certification of the machinery as "childproof" (international regulations or any regulation?

I’d be suspect even if they did offer something like that. The most that companies tend to claim is “child-safe” or “tamper resistant” .. certifying something is “childPROOF” seems logically impossible. Any reason you’re asking @Elvira de Grazia ?

Planning to develop kids versions of the machines

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@perispective t

1:05 AM

@perispective you are from USA? What about CPSC?

Yeah, USA — that group doesn’t do any certification from what I know, they mostly regulate items made to keep children safe and distribute recall notices if there are any safety issues after a product is in market. Their website mostly talks about guidance for parents and caregivers https://www.cpsc.gov/safety-education/neighborhood-safety-network/toolkits/child-safety

Child Safety

1:20 AM

There is this https://www.cpsc.gov/Testing-Certification/Childrens-Product-Certificate-CPC but that seems largely focused on companies looking to import goods into the USA to prove they’ve met certain safety requirements

Children’s Product Certificate (CPC)

Yes those were the links I've found. They also mentioned a list of labs that certificate. My doubt is if the machinery can be clasified in the certification. In Chile it seems it doesn't. The labs I've contacted answered that is a non-clasified category (they do certify toys and school articles, but this does'nt fit in any of those.

Does any one have any idea where to sell home decore furniture items made out from plastic waste in india ?? Am basically from Cuttack ,Odisha,India If any one have any kind of info please dm

hi, can we use silicone mold to make the beams?

Hello, I'm a 12th grade student and I'm looking to build an injection molding machine for my school to recycle plastic. However, I want to modify the injection barrel and increase its barrel size (to approximately 35-40 mm - inside circumference). I was wondering if anyone has done this modification before and if so, will there be any problems with doing so?

jojotrade

hi, can we use silicone mold to make the beams?

Just silicone? Having seen how most people do the beams, you might want something more rigid, otherwise you’d likely end up with wavy/warped beams

is there a different community for fixing fashion? I am a mender and maintaner for stuff, and had hoped to also find likeminded ppl here too

Hi. I'm new and trying to find a person in Eastern Massachusetts who will take PLA/PETG/ABS for shredding. I produce a modest amount of remnants and my recycle person went out of business during the pandemic

the.Dyslexic.Kitchenwitch

is there a different community for fixing fashion? I am a mender and maintaner for stuff, and had hoped to also find likeminded ppl here too

Go to #🖐start-here and react to the message in that channel with the fixing fashion emoji FixingFashion

to unlock the channels for that project

April471 | 3504 8077 2641

Hi. I'm new and trying to find a person in Eastern Massachusetts who will take PLA/PETG/ABS for shredding. I produce a modest amount of remnants and my recycle person went out of business during the pandemic

Have you checked out the map on the precious plastics site to see if anyone has added themselves as a shredding workshop for your area?

Hello social entrepreneurs and sustainability enthusiasts of Bangalore, India. Here’s “One Circle - Sustainability Fest” we are excited to conduct. Why should you attend? 1️⃣ Talks by founders building organisations working towards sustainability 2️⃣ Get a chance to share about your work (related to sustainability) to the audience for 10 mins and find potential team members or volunteers. 3️⃣ Network with like minded people 4️⃣ Discuss and learn more about sustainability 5️⃣ Music, food and fun Come join us at Bangalore Creative Circus Location: https://goo.gl/maps/LTovmRpDvdukekxZ9 Date: December 17, 2022 Timings: 11am to 5pm Register using this link: https://rzp.io/l/OneCircle For more details, check https://www.instagram.com/iku.earth/

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Anyone know why the map on preciousplastics is empty? Do I need to be logged in? Thanks

do you see a map there or is it just a blank white page?!

A map, but no pins...

jojotrade

hi, can we use silicone mold to make the beams?

I’ve found that silicone tears easily, in addition to not being rigid enough to hold a form.

Error_ika

Anyone know why the map on preciousplastics is empty? Do I need to be logged in? Thanks

Map works for me. It might be worth noting that the pins work but they will disappear if you go too far west or east although it will still show the map.

Hello , what is the maximum heigh that I can print with this injection machine??? https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/injection

Precious Plastic Business Tools

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Has anyone tried to CNC aluminum to create a mould? I'm considering getting the mpcnc project to give it a shot?

thank you, perispectus

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hi guys, i would like to know if i can add sand in the plastic extruder design here to make the recycled plastic more durable? cause im worried that the extruder might break if i add sand to it. or is there another filler i can add to make it durable?

i m looking for extruder pro from india

10:11 PM

kindly send details on bhavin.wms@gmail.com want to set up in uganda

hi guys, i am the CEO of a large pre-revenue plastics, 3D printing and textiles company and we are about to raise a large amount of venture capital. i want to include a precious plastics lab/facility in there as well but have not gotten any response from my multiple inquiries. can someone please reach out to me and help with this? thanks.

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HI! I want to start a plastic recycling business

0837526246

HI! I want to start a plastic recycling business

me too

9:43 PM

I guess that is a best idea, idk. my country need a change

0837526246

HI! I want to start a plastic recycling business

Good place to start: http://preciousplastic.com/solutions/business-tools.html

Discover Precious Plastic business tools that help people turn their recycling passion into a successfull business.

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a banding machine to bundle the lumber together for shipping is something I should have gotten long ago.

in2i2on

Has anyone tried to CNC aluminum to create a mould? I'm considering getting the mpcnc project to give it a shot?

I'd be afraid that the mpcnc machine is not rigid enough. I know people who CNC aluminum to make moulds but they dont use these small desktop hobby cnc machines.

Hello! Sorry to start off immediately with a question but this is kind kind why I came here. Lol

4:01 PM

So, I know mixing plastics is a general no, but are there any compatible types of plastics that can be mixed? PP and PET, for example, seem pretty similar at first blush, but I don't know enough about plastics to say for sure if it's safe/helpful to mix them

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I'd be afraid that the mpcnc machine is not rigid enough. I know people who CNC aluminum to make moulds but they dont use these small desktop hobby cnc machines.

Agreed. It's amateur - but it's not a bad place to start. Post processing the aluminum is something I'm preparing for. What I dont want to do is cast a part - it's a long process and I wouldn't be able to do multiple moulds quickly. I'm trying to find a way to recycle with designs I can produce myself.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I'd be afraid that the mpcnc machine is not rigid enough. I know people who CNC aluminum to make moulds but they dont use these small desktop hobby cnc machines.

I think the problem I'm going to face next will be how to quickly melt the PP and compress it in a mould. I want to be able to produce a lot so that'll be the next journey after I figure out how to produce the first one.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I'd be afraid that the mpcnc machine is not rigid enough. I know people who CNC aluminum to make moulds but they dont use these small desktop hobby cnc machines.

Ultimately I want to try to make something silly - like a can top and make a bunch. Or a small organizer and make a lot. But next step is figuring out how to go from a 3d design to a mould to can of melted PP to compression and set it aside. Then the next mould, etc...

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I'd be afraid that the mpcnc machine is not rigid enough. I know people who CNC aluminum to make moulds but they dont use these small desktop hobby cnc machines.

I'll send pics when I give it a shot. I'm crossing my fingers that it'll be enough for small'ish stuff. 12"x12"x3"

1:24 AM

smaller stuff would be maybe 6"x6"x1"

TarynAtNoone

So, I know mixing plastics is a general no, but are there any compatible types of plastics that can be mixed? PP and PET, for example, seem pretty similar at first blush, but I don't know enough about plastics to say for sure if it's safe/helpful to mix them

Once they're mixed you of course can't unmix them, but I think I've heard of some recycled materials that are basically just a sludge of random plastic mixed for when you want to repurpose piles of hard-to-salvage stuff

‍♀️ I'd probably just leave the stuff I couldn't sort to the local recycling center people who may know more, but small chips of plastic will probably just go in the landfill. Better separate than mixed, better mixed than landfill..

Hey everyone, I'm an architecture student in Milano, Italy and I have a question - I've been digging into the files and schematics of the starter kits on the website, and I can't for the life of me find any plan view of the machines provided by Precious Plastic. I'm always met with very complex schematics with extensions that none of the programs I'm using (CAD, Revit, Rhino) can open (ex. .SLDPRT). I guess it's because these schematics are for the machines to be built

2:54 PM

But I was wondering if anyone has PDF or DWG of a simple plan/elevation view of each machine, as I can't seem to find any in the starter kits folders

Hi

8:35 PM

How’s everyone

Doin' alright @Alex_recycles and creates

Hey everyone, quick question: Anyone knows where we can find a manufacturer that turns recycled glass into tempered glass in Australia, and if that's even possible? (edited)

Hello, I was wondering where I could find the download kits and bill of materials for the machines? specifically the press and pro shredder. Thanks!

emgordin

Hello, I was wondering where I could find the download kits and bill of materials for the machines? specifically the press and pro shredder. Thanks!

Here’s the page with the details for the basic shredder https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredder all the basic machine kits are here http://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/basic.html

Precious Plastic Basic Machines

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

The Basic machines are perfect to get started into plastic recycling and create educational workshops. These are the Shredder, Extrusion, Injection and Compression machine.

if the temperature for melt different be able to way sink mark, but did plastic chemical compounds also affect the output it?

Jimy

Hey everyone, quick question: Anyone knows where we can find a manufacturer that turns recycled glass into tempered glass in Australia, and if that's even possible? (edited)

That’s completely possible. They basically pulverize the recycled glass until it’s basically refined sand. Then it’s remelted, sometimes using huge electrodes and electrical arcs. It’s pretty cool and there are great videos available online that show the processes in action. I’m not familiar with any firms in Australia, but if there is glass collection, there is likely firms that use the recycled materials.

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Hey guys, we're working with a lot of Nylon and ABS based products. We have tons of waste and are looking at filtering the by products from our bigger products into our smaller offerings. We typically print and inject our custom Nylon blend around 275/280 with a mold temp of about 80-90. We're looking at making one of your injectors and then adding a wheel to it for the screw to keep constant pressure on the Nylon. Is the temp of 285 possible on your heaters in the plan? Thanks, really hope we can stop dumping all of this waste.

Hey guys! Where do I find any information about the amount of energy used by the precious plastic machines?

Hi! Lookig for anyone who has experience in making bricks for building! How can you protect the bricks from UV light and heat? Has anyone tried mixing the recycled plastic with sand to make the bricks? I need some advice and would be so happy if someone can help me! Thank you!! And have a beautiful day ❤️

Hi! I working on a project righ now but I need drawings to some parts at the CNC Carabiner Precious Plastic version. You can see the borrowed parts here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19Q9QeUdBbc8iEnJ6NYBDFayASOkuVJ4s?usp=sharing

Danone

Hey guys! Where do I find any information about the amount of energy used by the precious plastic machines?

https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/basic.html https://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/pro.html

Precious Plastic Basic Machines

The Basic machines are perfect to get started into plastic recycling and create educational workshops. These are the Shredder, Extrusion, Injection and Compression machine.

Precious Plastic Pro Machines

Precious Plastic Pro Machines are perfect to start a recycling business and tackle the plastic waste problem. Discover the Shredder Pro, Extrusion Pro and Sheetpress machine.

Hey Hey Merry Christmas one and all Greetings from Brooklyn USA Just putting it out there, Still messing around with plastic film waste ,fusing with hot sand to create structures and sculpture. Thinking on doing another Plasticrete workshop from my studio @ 31 Church ave 11218 wondering if there is any interest from the PP community for a workshop dedicated to teaching the process of encasing plastic film in hot sand to create additive and reductive sculptures and structures Full disclosure: This is not a Precious Plastic approved technique. I really appreciate them bringing plastic recycling and reutilization to the masses, and creating this forum . That said, I am a lazy man prone to finding the quickest and cheapest over best and brightest, often to my detriment. But enough cringy oversharing , On to shameless promotion hmu if you are interested in this process of creating rigid robust structures from reclaimed plastic film waste. www.plasticrete.net (edited)

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Hi! I'm interested

Hi interested, I'm dad

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11:04 AM

ok ok sorry i couldn't resist the opportunity

Any people with solar knowledge? I want a Hybrid but mostly off-grid system. I was thinking about ordering it in China. I am curious about the opinions from other people. We do need the more or less 20KW system since we eventually want to run a whole camp on it with 2 houses, a townhall, a 5 van campsite and workplace. Of course other things like a washing area and stuff like that. Is ordering from China a no-go? Most systems come from China right. What would be smart to add in terms of safety like breakers (I will make the schematics eventually with a breaker group for every different area. Thanks a lot for the help!

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Any people with solar knowledge? I want a Hybrid but mostly off-grid system. I was thinking about ordering it in China. I am curious about the opinions from other people. We do need the more or less 20KW system since we eventually want to run a whole camp on it with 2 houses, a townhall, a 5 van campsite and workplace. Of course other things like a washing area and stuff like that. Is ordering from China a no-go? Most systems come from China right. What would be smart to add in terms of safety like breakers (I will make the schematics eventually with a breaker group for every different area. Thanks a lot for the help!

Hello. Properly calculating an installation is not easy. You must consider many factors (inclination, orientation, etc...). Also tell him that 20 kW is an important power. You will have to connect 5-6 panels to an electricity inverter, install several inverters, etc... and of course protect the entire electrical installation correctly

9:57 PM

My recommendation is that you hire a professional. It will cost you a bit more now, but you will save money in a short period of time. Where are you from?

PPCapiSpain

My recommendation is that you hire a professional. It will cost you a bit more now, but you will save money in a short period of time. Where are you from?

Thanks a lot for your advice. It will be next year August-September when we are planning on installing. So enough time to find a professional.

PPCapiSpain

My recommendation is that you hire a professional. It will cost you a bit more now, but you will save money in a short period of time. Where are you from?

I'm from the Netherlands, currently in Portugal.

hello:) I'm studying the sheet press. I wonder how i can cool down melted plastic sheets faster. Isn't it possible to soak heated plastic sheets into the water ,instead of cooling down with the air? (edited)

daisky

hello:) I'm studying the sheet press. I wonder how i can cool down melted plastic sheets faster. Isn't it possible to soak heated plastic sheets into the water ,instead of cooling down with the air? (edited)

no,the cooling press is needed to prevent warping

3:43 PM

However adding water cooling to the cooling press maybe be a possibility but I am unsure about its feasibility as I havent tested it and dont remember hearing about anything similar for sheets

Hey guys, anyone here worked with multi layer plastics?

advait

Hey guys, anyone here worked with multi layer plastics?

hey there! I've tried melting bubble wrap (it was LDPE - 4) with PP and HDPE - 2 with PP as impossible to blend it, I used an iron and a carving pen. We also had toaster, but we didnt even try it because we could not contorl the temperature at all. with the iron, I think I didnt manage because I was just applying heat and not enough pressure for the amount of time it needs to cool down with HDPE it sticked much better with the same techique but I believe that if you find teh rigth temperature and rigth pressure, you should make it happen. Btw, we tried mixing these different types of plastics just to see how it behaves, we quickly realized that melting the same types of plastic together is easier. If you melt 2 layers of the same plastic, let it cool, than add more, you'll get pretty hard solid plastic (depending on technique and what u want to do) (edited)

Hi there, Greetings from Kerala, India

Have been experimenting with MLP for a while... anyone else here interested in multi layered plastic??

CrisLeash 🐙

hey there! I've tried melting bubble wrap (it was LDPE - 4) with PP and HDPE - 2 with PP as impossible to blend it, I used an iron and a carving pen. We also had toaster, but we didnt even try it because we could not contorl the temperature at all. with the iron, I think I didnt manage because I was just applying heat and not enough pressure for the amount of time it needs to cool down with HDPE it sticked much better with the same techique but I believe that if you find teh rigth temperature and rigth pressure, you should make it happen. Btw, we tried mixing these different types of plastics just to see how it behaves, we quickly realized that melting the same types of plastic together is easier. If you melt 2 layers of the same plastic, let it cool, than add more, you'll get pretty hard solid plastic (depending on technique and what u want to do) (edited)

Have you tried with a saucepan? It’s very easy to melt plastic with that and mixing with a long spoon

anyone putting thoughts on the issue with numbers and the hardship on not thinking in decimal system ? It becomes obvious to me (at least I believe it is obvious) that switching to different numeric systems - such as base 20 by the Mayans, where people used different symbols for numbers - raises the thought and question that e.g. Mayans did not see numbers as we did, and may that also imply they did not 'think' and 'feel' numbers as we did

Hi everyone, we looking to add peoples to our team and have job offers, where would be the best place to post thoses?

Micka

Hi everyone, we looking to add peoples to our team and have job offers, where would be the best place to post thoses?

Assuming related to Precious Plastic? If so, go to #activity-bot and react with the PreciousPlastic

emote, then go to #archived-post-jobs

Hi everyone I am currently sourcing an extruder for my plastic sand bricks company Can anyone assist with reliable global suppliers. I'm from Nigeria

Hi All, I am looking into making these projects in the USA and am running into trouble with the conversions of the laser cut files. We have a different set of measure metals available and I’m wondering if anyone has built the devices here and updated the models and laser cut files to suit inches. Anyone do this yet?

Made a little chart of my diner's weekly waste in lbs. Its a 150 seater which is an average sized establishment (by comparison an Applebee's is 200 seats). Working to get these numbers down!

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Hi @everyone I am finding difficulty in setting up the project on my system Here is the error

advait

Hey guys, anyone here worked with multi layer plastics?

I've shredded and extruded the stuff into tiles before. Nothing huge but something like 10cm x 10cm x 5mm. I never tried extruding 100% multilayer plastic, but i would mix in other plastic to help move things along in fear of things getting stuck inside.

madhavsetia240982

Hi @everyone I am finding difficulty in setting up the project on my system Here is the error

what project is that? what are you trying to do?

This is the GitHub repo of this organisation

Trying to figure out a way to cut this mold into pieces that can easily be removed

Hmm...

Hi all

May I vent? Getting beyond frustrated. Started an open company in March. (Localverse) It's taking way too long to do even basic seeming stuff. • Localverse is supposed to livestream its entire operations and all decisions, yet been failing to as I work all the time, sometimes away for days or a week (rigging for concert stages), with barely enough energy left to work on anything, and most of my free time is spent spinning wheels and getting nowhere trying to figure out how to use tech that I'm really unskilled at and the jargon makes my mind go into standby mode. • Still no website because didn't figure out how to insert the DNS info that my host requested. • Finally decided on trying a landing page, but same exact DNS issue. • Trying to race against time before the trademarks must show use in commerce, yet hardly anyone knows Localverse exists. All of that would be a feature, not a bug, because I want people to see the struggle and volunteer to pitch in, that's what an open company is. But hardly anyone even knows Localverse exists. Worse, when a bunch of people do learn about the company and flood my LinkedIn in views, they almost immediately drop off because there's no website or place for them to see what Localverse is. Created a Discord but that isn't ideal, Localverse needs an open forum everyone can view online Gonna drain the last of the budget on hiring a communications person to help grow a tribe, and a visuals person to help make a 1 minute video. I've spent thousands in the past on trial & error hiring. How I got hiring money? When away at jobs I sleep in car even in dead of winter, instead of renting a hotel room. Been trying to get this started 10 years now. Been wanting to introduce the Precious Salvage people to a gift card for local businesses, made 100% locally, but again no website. If I could even get simple feedback it'd be a tremendous boost. Please, help. / end rant

6:17 AM

| P.S. Someone from the Patreon account invited me to post here. The image below is a street sign I ordered to represent the Local & Main gift card and which to base its logo on. Unfortunately found out its polymer is made of plastic under aluminum. Ironically. It is beautiful looking and proud of it still. (edited)

6:17 AM

Bionicle Waluigi

Trying to figure out a way to cut this mold into pieces that can easily be removed

i have a problem where the feature mold cavity is locked in solidwork 2018, what is the possible diagnosis, do i have to reinstall it?

ige

i have a problem where the feature mold cavity is locked in solidwork 2018, what is the possible diagnosis, do i have to reinstall it?

I've never worked with Solidworks, sorry

ige

i have a problem where the feature mold cavity is locked in solidwork 2018, what is the possible diagnosis, do i have to reinstall it?

To use the cavity feature, you have to edit the mold inside an assembly. You can then use the cavity feature to create a cavity in your mold, from another part that is also placed inside the assembly. You can't use this feature when you are in a part file. Hope this helps!

GTalsma

To use the cavity feature, you have to edit the mold inside an assembly. You can then use the cavity feature to create a cavity in your mold, from another part that is also placed inside the assembly. You can't use this feature when you are in a part file. Hope this helps!

thanks

Hey, am making an injector but only have access to 110 V power, can I use the existing electronics or do I need to rework the entire system? Thanks

Bionicle Waluigi

Hmm...

you'll need to hand pull the cams so go 0 draft angle in with a polish. You can make them bolt to one side and accept, then finish by removing flash

Hello beautiful people of #onearmy, we at BasicShit are working towards plastic recycling and developing waterless sanitation solution. We have several projects going on at a time. Trying to develop new models and sustainable system of sanitation. We are open sourcing our knowledge, design and models till date, we need help to spread this across the world and bring in recycling, sanitation and housing together. Come check our on going projects: https://discord.com/channels/997444752679116901/1059339767801712681

Hi All, we are looking to set-up a mobile workspace. We currently have the v4 shredder and extruder as well as an injection machine. Does anyone have any insight on what we will need from a power perspective?

perispective

Assuming related to Precious Plastic? If so, go to #activity-bot and react with the PreciousPlastic

emote, then go to #archived-post-jobs

ok thanks!!

GoUpcycled

Hi All, we are looking to set-up a mobile workspace. We currently have the v4 shredder and extruder as well as an injection machine. Does anyone have any insight on what we will need from a power perspective?

It probably depends what motor you have. Try looking up how much electricity your motors need and work from there. (edited)

9:53 PM

Does One Army have a subreddit?

9:58 PM

https://www.clickondetroit.com/all-about-ann-arbor/2022/12/01/university-of-michigan-researchers-discover-way-to-recycle-pvc-plastic/ PVC is now recyclable! (Not sure if anyone else saw this) (edited)

University of Michigan researchers discover way to recycle PVC plastic

A research team at U-M has found a way to chemically recycle PVC into usable material.

does anyone here have a respirator that they would reccomend for sheet press/extruder?

MIfoodie

does anyone here have a respirator that they would reccomend for sheet press/extruder?

I usually wear a M3 respirator with filters that keep out organic fumes

Alex_recycles and creates

I usually wear a M3 respirator with filters that keep out organic fumes

so something like this?

MIfoodie

so something like this?

Similar but it has to say keeps out organic fumes they can’t be dust masks

Alex_recycles and creates

Similar but it has to say keeps out organic fumes they can’t be dust masks

Ok! Thank you.

@MIfoodie it should be an ABEK1 filter

8:09 PM

Sometimes written A1B1E1K1 filter

Another question! What is the main different between the extruded and ejection machine? I see that they both can have molds attached to them.

MIfoodie

Another question! What is the main different between the extruded and ejection machine? I see that they both can have molds attached to them.

extruders use augurs to move the plastic and injectors use a piston to move the plastic

Alex_recycles and creates

extruders use augurs to move the plastic and injectors use a piston to move the plastic

Are there any huge performance differences? (edited)

MIfoodie

Are there any huge performance differences? (edited)

people here use the extruder to make large items and injection to make small parts

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MIfoodie

Are there any huge performance differences? (edited)

you can use the extruder to make small parts

Hey All, does someone know where I could find recycled acrylic in Australia?

Alex_recycles and creates

people here use the extruder to make large items and injection to make small parts

where is it buddy? (edited)

ige

where is it buddy? (edited)

The Precious Plastic website has downloadable plans. Assuming you want to go with the basic models, here's the page where plans for the injection and extrusion machines are: http://preciousplastic.com/solutions/machines/basic.html

9:17 PM

You can also purchase through the bazaar from others in the community who make machines/kits for others to use: https://bazar.preciousplastic.com

Set up an Extrusion Workspace

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I just popped in to say that I really miss the Monday videos. I can't wait until you're back!

Hi guys, am new here just joined

Can you share the build blue print of extrusion basic one the pro one is bit difficult to make so

Crazydoc

Can you share the build blue print of extrusion basic one the pro one is bit difficult to make so

Click the yellow “download files” button. https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-an-extrusion-workspace

In this How-to we’re going to guide you through all the steps to set up an Extrusion Workspace. Learn about plastic, how to find a space, get the Extrusion machine, find customers and connect to the Precious Plastic Universe. Step 1-3: Intro Step 4-9: Learn Step 10-19: Set up Step 20-25: Run Step 26-29: Share

@basicshit india hi I can't access the link to check out your server

Hi everyone, I want to access the basic extruder blueprint but I've been unable to find the link to the download file.

Olokodana Abdulkabir

Hi everyone, I want to access the basic extruder blueprint but I've been unable to find the link to the download file.

Yellow download files button on this page :) https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-an-extrusion-workspace

Set up an Extrusion Workspace

In this How-to we’re going to guide you through all the steps to set up an Extrusion Workspace. Learn about plastic, how to find a space, get the Extrusion machine, find customers and connect to the Precious Plastic Universe. Step 1-3: Intro Step 4-9: Learn Step 10-19: Set up Step 20-25: Run Step 26-29: Share

Hello, my name is Matti Kemppainen and I am an Architect from Sweden. At the moment I am doing a project in Ecuador were we are gonna provide temporary housing for Venezuelan refugees. These temporary dwellings will be made out of recycled plastic collected in Ecuador. But as our resources are limited we try to find a solution to make the collecting, sorting and shredding, molding process as inexpensive as possible. Something very labor consuming is the sorting of the different plastics. Can one mix different polymers and combine them when melting them? Are any polymers compatible? If one would be mixing different polymers would the end product still have the qualities like HDPE?

Mattikemppainen

Hello, my name is Matti Kemppainen and I am an Architect from Sweden. At the moment I am doing a project in Ecuador were we are gonna provide temporary housing for Venezuelan refugees. These temporary dwellings will be made out of recycled plastic collected in Ecuador. But as our resources are limited we try to find a solution to make the collecting, sorting and shredding, molding process as inexpensive as possible. Something very labor consuming is the sorting of the different plastics. Can one mix different polymers and combine them when melting them? Are any polymers compatible? If one would be mixing different polymers would the end product still have the qualities like HDPE?

Mixing plastic types is not a very good idea as different plastics have different melting/burning temperatures. If you mix plastics you may melt one those but not the other type it is mixed in with. If you heat up the extruder even more to melt both plastics you may burn one of them.

7:15 PM

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Hello

does anyone know how i can change my name's colour?

Ranocchia Simpatica

Hello

does anyone know how i can change my name's colour?

Hello ! Name’s colour is defined by your role and/or the center of interest you mentioned at the beginning.

@Yann okkk thanks!!

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Hello all! long time creeper first time chatter.

2:38 AM

I actually have a PP question. Has anyone tried to extrude a 80/20 style t slot from PP instead of aluminum? I am looking for a unique take on building a CO2 laser cutter frame, and some woodworking supports, from recycled plastic. Also is there a good place in North America to get lot cost PP or HDPE that can be shredded? Have people bought full hoppers from recyclers?

Mattikemppainen

Hello, my name is Matti Kemppainen and I am an Architect from Sweden. At the moment I am doing a project in Ecuador were we are gonna provide temporary housing for Venezuelan refugees. These temporary dwellings will be made out of recycled plastic collected in Ecuador. But as our resources are limited we try to find a solution to make the collecting, sorting and shredding, molding process as inexpensive as possible. Something very labor consuming is the sorting of the different plastics. Can one mix different polymers and combine them when melting them? Are any polymers compatible? If one would be mixing different polymers would the end product still have the qualities like HDPE?

It's a debatable topic on mixing polymers. I will say that it is possible to mix polymers with the extrusion machine. You will need to find a mix that works for whatever you're doing as you will find that you might have different results with different mixtures. Different melting points? It's a problem in certain circumstances. If you're using plastic that has a high melting point and other plastics that get destroyed at that same temperature, you need to adjust things so you have a lot of the plastics with lower melting points and smaller percentage of the plastic with higher melting point. But basically HDPE and PP overlap quite nicely. PET doesn't, so if you try adding it in to a HDPE and PP mix, it doesn't mix and can cause you some problems if it's not shredded finely enough or you put too much in. It might not add much to the material in terms of structure, but i guess it works as a filler to a degree. It's always nicer if you can do 100% of a plastic instead of mixing it up. In some cases you don't need to worry too much about contamination unless you want a really polished product.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rcz4KsmQQAY We got a big batch of discard plastic Monoblock school chairs to process.

Transform Old Plastic Chairs into New Treasures with Precious Plast...

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hurlman81

I actually have a PP question. Has anyone tried to extrude a 80/20 style t slot from PP instead of aluminum? I am looking for a unique take on building a CO2 laser cutter frame, and some woodworking supports, from recycled plastic. Also is there a good place in North America to get lot cost PP or HDPE that can be shredded? Have people bought full hoppers from recyclers?

ive seen a rather chuny 4020 once made out of pvc

11:12 AM

but its only use for for advertisment frames in stores etc

11:13 AM

nobody really makes them out of plastic because they arent strong or stable enough for actual use

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

It's a debatable topic on mixing polymers. I will say that it is possible to mix polymers with the extrusion machine. You will need to find a mix that works for whatever you're doing as you will find that you might have different results with different mixtures. Different melting points? It's a problem in certain circumstances. If you're using plastic that has a high melting point and other plastics that get destroyed at that same temperature, you need to adjust things so you have a lot of the plastics with lower melting points and smaller percentage of the plastic with higher melting point. But basically HDPE and PP overlap quite nicely. PET doesn't, so if you try adding it in to a HDPE and PP mix, it doesn't mix and can cause you some problems if it's not shredded finely enough or you put too much in. It might not add much to the material in terms of structure, but i guess it works as a filler to a degree. It's always nicer if you can do 100% of a plastic instead of mixing it up. In some cases you don't need to worry too much about contamination unless you want a really polished product.

Thank you for a good answer Ben

But if I then do this mix of HDPE and PP, can I recycle the new mix without any complications?

sponsoons

ive seen a rather chuny 4020 once made out of pvc

not going to work. best you could do is make the connect-it connectors like that company in south africa

I asked the AI "ChatGPT" for useful products from recycled plastic.

9:24 AM

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hi.. i'm djuan from city of palembang indonesia, i'm really enjoy watching the project camp. can i join with us ? n when your plant to going project kamp again in indonesian ?

Hi, @Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto, I am Matthew Akinola from Nigeria and I must say that I'm fascinated by inventions and innovations emerging from plastic waste recycling too. I hope to connect with you in order to forster a meaningful relationship that can culminate into a great partnership someday. Most importantly, in the mean time, I am looking for like minded great minds that are already into plastic waste recycling from whom I can learn from. Please reply me if there's any way you can assist me. I got to be here on discord through the Precious Plastics Community and I thank Precious Plastics so much for the opportunity to connect and learn about Plastic waste recycling from great minds as you @Thomas Peterberns | Johannplasto . Thank you for sharing this educational write-up and I await your response asap.

Has anyone tried to recycle high temperature plastics like PEEK and Nylon using the Shredder Pro V4?

MIfoodie

Yellow download files button on this page :) https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-an-extrusion-workspace

Thanks

@everyone anyone from GTA Toronto? Let's connect please:)

@everyone any researcher or creator of biomaterials or craft techniques? Here goes a project to connect doubts and knowledge

https://i6r2wnf3vm0.typeform.com/to/nlxmSzJu (edited)

For the ones that are running a project/company... https://impactpad.nl/wp-content/uploads/Het_Impactpad_EN_2020.pdf This will help you to highlight the impact you create

Hey , not sure at all if I`m at the right Place here , but I try anyway. My girlfriend has a small business and produces stuff out of polymer gips and epoxy. She is unhappy about producing more waste with epoxy and is asking herself if there might be someone out there who wants to do a collaboration by producing her soapdishes out of recycled plastic!

11:13 PM

I'd be thankful for any advise which guides us to a potential producer...

PEZ

Hey , not sure at all if I`m at the right Place here , but I try anyway. My girlfriend has a small business and produces stuff out of polymer gips and epoxy. She is unhappy about producing more waste with epoxy and is asking herself if there might be someone out there who wants to do a collaboration by producing her soapdishes out of recycled plastic!

Not really a whole lot we can do with thermoset plastics since we can't melt it. But... If her waste isnt huge, she can mix in new epoxy with the old scraps to produce products. It's not a perfect solution but it's something.

Hola

iwanttobefreak

Hola

Hola :)

PEZ

Hey , not sure at all if I`m at the right Place here , but I try anyway. My girlfriend has a small business and produces stuff out of polymer gips and epoxy. She is unhappy about producing more waste with epoxy and is asking herself if there might be someone out there who wants to do a collaboration by producing her soapdishes out of recycled plastic!

I make soap disshes.

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anyone on that's interested in discussing a pp facility?

Chad_LawtonLighthouse

anyone on that's interested in discussing a pp facility?

I mean, just discussing? Sure.

Hi all. I'm working on a funding proposal to set up a Precious Plastic mixed workspace in semi-rural South Africa. I'd love to make contact with people who have done this in other developing countries. I have tried to find the #business thread but it seems to be gone?

Clare R

Hi all. I'm working on a funding proposal to set up a Precious Plastic mixed workspace in semi-rural South Africa. I'd love to make contact with people who have done this in other developing countries. I have tried to find the #business thread but it seems to be gone?

I'm keen on hearing about getting funding for projects. I'm looking for funding a plastic recycling project in Scotland.

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Hi, I am trying to figure out if it is possible to melt/bind polyester fabric in order to mould it into a sheet 3-5mm thickness. Anyone who can assist, I will really appreciate it..

Hi @everyone any idea will there be legal problems if a work station is opened and people are concerned about fumes and particles from the station causing pollution. Has this happened to anyone?

helium

Hi @everyone any idea will there be legal problems if a work station is opened and people are concerned about fumes and particles from the station causing pollution. Has this happened to anyone?

Unless you are making a huge factory it won’t be a problem. Just use the usual safety precautions

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4:04 PM

Ok so this is a big off topic but I’m making dinner so I’m asking chat gpt for recipes. Wish me luck,

Hello everyone. Please help me, which solution should be used to separate low-pressure polyethylene from polypropylene

Does anyone know where the blueprints mentioned at about 1:20 are on the website? https://youtu.be/2KlW_WmV3Bw

Precious Plastic 3 - Promo

Hello im new to Precious Plastic. Im a 3D printer with a small home buisiness. And im looking for a way to recycle bottles and plastic into fillament i can use to 3D print. Im looking for a small scale fillament extruder for DIY. If anyone knows of a good tutorial please send it my way. Looking forward to making friends and joining in new conversations

Regards to all. A month ago, I produced the first beams and benches from recycled HDPE and PP, as well as from a mix of the two. I'm from Montenegro and people saw this as something revolutionary. I already have over 50 orders for recycled benches, but I run into a big problem when they ask me how long the bench will last considering the weather conditions in our country, which range from -10 degrees in the winter to 40 degrees in the summer. Does anyone have any longevity experiences to share with me? Thank you

aleksandarmasic92

Regards to all. A month ago, I produced the first beams and benches from recycled HDPE and PP, as well as from a mix of the two. I'm from Montenegro and people saw this as something revolutionary. I already have over 50 orders for recycled benches, but I run into a big problem when they ask me how long the bench will last considering the weather conditions in our country, which range from -10 degrees in the winter to 40 degrees in the summer. Does anyone have any longevity experiences to share with me? Thank you

Plastic takes a long time to wear down.

but how long do you think it is? 5, 10, 20 years?

aleksandarmasic92

Regards to all. A month ago, I produced the first beams and benches from recycled HDPE and PP, as well as from a mix of the two. I'm from Montenegro and people saw this as something revolutionary. I already have over 50 orders for recycled benches, but I run into a big problem when they ask me how long the bench will last considering the weather conditions in our country, which range from -10 degrees in the winter to 40 degrees in the summer. Does anyone have any longevity experiences to share with me? Thank you

You want to go find Recreator3D page https://joshuartaylor.wixsite.com/recreator3d/mk3

VideoThe Recreator 3D

VideoA PET#1 Pultrusion unit for converting Plastic Bottles into DIY 3D Filament. What will you Recreate?

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Yah that for bottles but what about shredded plastic to fillament. Looking for a extruder guide

Is there a useful tool to help with pricing pellets to sell to a manufacturer? I am just starting out with this and I don't have a clue how to price the plastic or where to look.

aleksandarmasic92

but how long do you think it is? 5, 10, 20 years?

The benches can last for 20 plus years

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Hello!

Akseli

Hello!

Hi! Welcome!

bonjour, un petit nouveau français

4:14 PM

je recherche des informations pour reussir à fabriquer un shredder ( broyeur) de plastique PP pour le transformer en paillettes dans un premier temps.

4:14 PM

merci de votre aide je suis sur Valence (France)

Guigui

bonjour, un petit nouveau français

Bonjour! Je parle français trop mal, mais bienvenue ici! Viva le Precious Plastic!

non c est bien compréhensible! merci

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Has anybody built the brick I’m looking at the blueprints but it doesn’t specify the thickness of the material that is needed can anybody help

What size is the inlet on the injection mold machine from Preciousplastic? I'm trying to make a custom mold and I don't know where to begin.

Hello,my name is Rodrigue ,I'm from Rwanda, am very excited to be here, am looking nearly person who make extrusion machine, Thanks

I finally found a good spot for my sticker (this is my magnetic pop socket)

F-Iron Roc

Hi, I am trying to figure out if it is possible to melt/bind polyester fabric in order to mould it into a sheet 3-5mm thickness. Anyone who can assist, I will really appreciate it..

did you make any progress on that front yet? interested in your results

2:51 PM

Hello! I'm Stéphane from Toulouse, i started with 3 friends an association called Cadavres-Exquis and i'm looking for contacts for grow our community. Our project is very young (Nov 2022) and we are support by Première Brique (Economic and social project incubator) So if you are intereted to make part of our trip, contact me : https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086390747489

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Hello everyone and good morning from Argentina

the.Dyslexic.Kitchenwitch

did you make any progress on that front yet? interested in your results

I have not received any suggestions. Still experimenting on my side. Will advise if I am successful

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F-Iron Roc

I have not received any suggestions. Still experimenting on my side. Will advise if I am successful

I think it should work, but you need to have your temps right, also work in a well ventilated area. There might be a few ways to do this like with a tshirt press or maybe a clothes iron. my sheet press might be able to handle it but i've never tried on polyester as it requires a higher temperature...i think my machine can handle it.

Hi everyone, I am trying to come up with a project regarding precious plastics/recyclability and polymers. Any suggestions?

3:55 AM

It would be like a senior design project that multiple students can work on with a polymer focus

KnightKnight

Yah that for bottles but what about shredded plastic to fillament. Looking for a extruder guide

The extruders I've seen on precious plastic don't seem to be the best for making filament. You can look at designs from felfil or filabot. Dont buy a felfil evo, they are garbage.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I think it should work, but you need to have your temps right, also work in a well ventilated area. There might be a few ways to do this like with a tshirt press or maybe a clothes iron. my sheet press might be able to handle it but i've never tried on polyester as it requires a higher temperature...i think my machine can handle it.

Thanks Ben, I will try an iron or a press. I believe I need to get it to 295c for it to melt.

Hello

5:31 PM

For the plastic shredder, can I make normal steel blades? because hardened steel is too expensive in my country

F-Iron Roc

Thanks Ben, I will try an iron or a press. I believe I need to get it to 295c for it to melt.

I'd try 260-270 range first.

Heey just found out about the project en thought to look around here

Quandry: I'm going to build a mould out of aluminum. Core and cavity. I dont have industrial ovens. I want to experiment with learning how to produce a part from moulds I CNC from a home CNC. What should I consider?

3:16 AM

I'm mostly concerned with if it's more appropriate to use a compression oven, or if (I saw a video) if I can use the liquid plastic out of an extruder and work quickly?

Hello I joined precious plastic I'm unable to locate on the map....

Hello everyone, i'm looking to setup a workspace for shredding. Would like to connect with folks who are already running a workspace that shreds plastic! Would like to know more about the daily operations, the quantity of plastic shredded & the type of machinery and plastic you use in this workspace...

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I'd try 260-270 range first.

Thanks, I will definitely try your suggestion first

in2i2on

I'm mostly concerned with if it's more appropriate to use a compression oven, or if (I saw a video) if I can use the liquid plastic out of an extruder and work quickly?

Hey

If you work with moulds it's best to work with an injection machine. Look up Precious Plastic injection machine V4 and you know what I mean.

vccguy

For the plastic shredder, can I make normal steel blades? because hardened steel is too expensive in my country

hardened would be better, but normal steel would work as well.

Hi all, i am an MSc Circular Economy and Sustainable innovation student in France. I run a precious plastic workshop in Zimbabwe but currently based in Lyon France, imlooking for any workshops that need a hand in research or craft around Lyon. I am also conducting research into SMEs and funding, drop me a hi if interested to participate in the research.

Hello! We are currently looking to build the schredder pro. But we have lots of PP film dishes (used for takeaway). Does anybody know how thin of a plastic piece the shredder pro can actually schred, without it slipping between the blades? And would it also work for plastic bags? Thanks from Paraguay, people!!

Chris-NZ

Hey

If you work with moulds it's best to work with an injection machine. Look up Precious Plastic injection machine V4 and you know what I mean.

Garage project is a bit hard to do something like that given the resources.

I've never done this before so I'm giving it a go with building the mould with a cnc carved aluminum pieces cuz I tried with a PETG print and I melted everything in the toaster oven.

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Hey everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster, but I was wondering if there was anyone here familiar with the term Solarpunk? It’s an eco-conscious sci-fi genre that’s turning into a movement. OneArmy’s mission seems really in line with the values of solarpunk and I was wondering if anyone was down to chat more about eco-futurist visions and current projects that can help advance that vision

Hi! We have access to an extruder of the basic type from precious plastic. We have seen that it is possible to make filament, and this is relatively bendable. What we want to do, is to create plarn (plastic yarn) which we have seen that people make from PET with an extruder output that has multiple holes. The plarn needs to be very soft, but we have gotten to understand that the plastic that the extruder machine produces is very hard. Do you believe that it is possible to produce plarn or will this be impossible? If we for example fashion some sort of spinning wheel or something that stretches the plastic so that it gets thinner? We are really looking forward to the reply!

I have collected virgin clear LDPE and baled it. I need a buyer.

@👮Moderator this is most likely a scam

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yep one is an ad disregarding whether real or not and the other is straight up scam

11:32 AM

unapproved advertising and self promoting is generally frowned upon in public servers

Fatih

yep one is an ad disregarding whether real or not and the other is straight up scam

oh the last one has pretty sketchy code on there, definitely malware trying to steal discord tokens

11:57 AM

and I agree, crypto ad spam is annoying, too

reminds me of this meme

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hey guys does anyone have experience with the extruder pro? does it generate enough pressure to be used as an injection molder?

Hi everyone!! I'm struggling to get proper moulds for the injection machine that doesn't cost me a kidney. Do you guys know if anyone is sharing the CAD files for injection moulds? Thank you

My name is Melinda. I live in Colorado and work in the field of renewable energy. A local friend asked me to help his uncle, who manages the eight airports in Zimbabwe, begin recycling centers in the airports. Are your machines adequate for recycling plastic waste from people in the airports? Does the plastic waste at airports, e.g., water and cola bottles, and food containers, need to be washed before shredding? If so, do you sell washing machines? Is there a Precious Plastics contact or center in Zimbabwe? Do you have a tool or way to help the manager of Zimbabwe's airports know what sized equipment is needed and how much money these machines cost? If the machines we need are electrically powered, are there options for having them configured to be plugged into outlets in Zimbabwe that won't harmed the machines? Thank you.

Petaparsec

hey guys does anyone have experience with the extruder pro? does it generate enough pressure to be used as an injection molder?

Yes. it works, but you have to keep your mould hot. Injection molding works better since it moves the plastic in fast and you can hold the pressure and preference is to NOT heat up the mould as it will increase your wait time for demoulding. I'll share a link with what i've made

2:20 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CG9A6rwAg_Y/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

preciousplasticciledug

Heres my extrusion machine work. Still getting the hang of IG videos but here's the process for extruding into moulds. Ask me questions if you have any. :)

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2:20 AM

this is not using extrusion pro

If you heat the mould, the results will be wrinkle free. I suggest making some traces for air to escape and also as an indicator for when the mould has been filled. Also pay attention to the sound of your machine. If the mould is full, the machine will be placed under an increased load and you should be able to hear the additional strain...try to avoid this by using the air gaps/traces. After the mould is injected, you can put the mould in a bucket of water to cool things down quickly. For this one it had to spend 2-3 minutes in a bucket of water. Note, the center part of the mould will remain a bit warm/hot so be careful when handling.

Hi! I was wondering if anyone had built the precious plastic washing machine for washing of plastic? Do you need inlaid water? Was trying to figure it out from the drawing but decided to ask here

is there anyone who can send me the link to download the cad and DXF files to build the shredder(not the shredder pro)

Walker (•‿•)

is there anyone who can send me the link to download the cad and DXF files to build the shredder(not the shredder pro)

Someone just asked this over in #archived-machines but feel freel to have a look https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694/1069939293000323104

4:30 AM

or just go to https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/shr---33- and click the "download files" button

SHR - 3.3

Shredding is the first step of processing the precious plastic that you collected. It will break apart it into flakes and then they will be ready to be processed with the other machines to create new precious products

. The main diffference between the Shredder Basic and PRO it's their shredding capacity, the SHRPRO can shred up to 50 kg/h and ...

Hi @everyone - I’m an Australian based plastics recycling and remanufacturing startup in rural SA. I’m looking for recommendations for a CNC router for our workshop (mostly to be used for engraving finished products, cutting components from sheet plastics, but perhaps further along we’ll need it for more complex tasks). Ideally I’d love a machine with an enclosure, as our workshop is in a windy agricultural environment and prone to dust. What machines are other people using, and what do/don’t you like about them? (edited)

Shadowbox

Hi @everyone - I’m an Australian based plastics recycling and remanufacturing startup in rural SA. I’m looking for recommendations for a CNC router for our workshop (mostly to be used for engraving finished products, cutting components from sheet plastics, but perhaps further along we’ll need it for more complex tasks). Ideally I’d love a machine with an enclosure, as our workshop is in a windy agricultural environment and prone to dust. What machines are other people using, and what do/don’t you like about them? (edited)

I use a shapeoko 2 with a makita 3709. It's a bit too "hobbiest". Issues are that with HDPE it leaves crazy fuzz/burrs when engraving, with PP the material tends to gum up and melt. I think the router runs way too fast. I've tried using a dust shoe but it only makes things worse for PP so I keep a spray bottle with water handy when working with PP to keep material temperatures down, but no way will I try to engrave in PP, cutting only. I know a couple workspaces that use cnc machines, they're larger size like 4' x 8' (122 * 244cm) using proper spindles and bits with better success with both HDPE and PP. Hopefully someone else can show examples of HDPE engraving that looks nice?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I use a shapeoko 2 with a makita 3709. It's a bit too "hobbiest". Issues are that with HDPE it leaves crazy fuzz/burrs when engraving, with PP the material tends to gum up and melt. I think the router runs way too fast. I've tried using a dust shoe but it only makes things worse for PP so I keep a spray bottle with water handy when working with PP to keep material temperatures down, but no way will I try to engrave in PP, cutting only. I know a couple workspaces that use cnc machines, they're larger size like 4' x 8' (122 * 244cm) using proper spindles and bits with better success with both HDPE and PP. Hopefully someone else can show examples of HDPE engraving that looks nice?

That is so helpful, thank you. I was reading about the Shakeopo series today, and comparing to Inventables X-Carve. Then I wondered if I might actually be better off using a laser cutter, for better precision and detail.

Shadowbox

That is so helpful, thank you. I was reading about the Shakeopo series today, and comparing to Inventables X-Carve. Then I wondered if I might actually be better off using a laser cutter, for better precision and detail.

There has been many improvements to x-carve and latest shapeoko version, but I think you're going to still have some limitations with engraving. I always wish I could just make a mould with aluminium but it's just not gonna happen with my cnc setup. Laser? I've done some experiments. I attached a small laser diode to my cnc and 0.5w of optical power works a bit on PP but it's incredibly slow and the results are not really great. If you use a CO2 laser, i have some suggestions. You need air assist and 150w CO2 laser. I mostly say this because for cutting 1cm thick plastic, you'll need 100w @ 1mm/sec. If you run a 100w laser at 100%, you're going to burn through it a bit quickly. The other bit is that the plastic will smoke quite a bit in the machine. You need to be sure to have a good exhaust system so you don't ruin your mirrors and lens.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

There has been many improvements to x-carve and latest shapeoko version, but I think you're going to still have some limitations with engraving. I always wish I could just make a mould with aluminium but it's just not gonna happen with my cnc setup. Laser? I've done some experiments. I attached a small laser diode to my cnc and 0.5w of optical power works a bit on PP but it's incredibly slow and the results are not really great. If you use a CO2 laser, i have some suggestions. You need air assist and 150w CO2 laser. I mostly say this because for cutting 1cm thick plastic, you'll need 100w @ 1mm/sec. If you run a 100w laser at 100%, you're going to burn through it a bit quickly. The other bit is that the plastic will smoke quite a bit in the machine. You need to be sure to have a good exhaust system so you don't ruin your mirrors and lens.

Yes, I was thinking CO2 laser. Good to know! We have a well ventilated workshop, but might need to put a mobile extraction unit over the set up for cutting HDPE sheets. (I had the same initial hope for the brand to be a feature of the molds themselves, but it just complicates things unnecessarily - and no doubt adds to the cost of having them made. I did wonder if a stamp would be a simpler solution for flat surfaces)?

Shadowbox

Yes, I was thinking CO2 laser. Good to know! We have a well ventilated workshop, but might need to put a mobile extraction unit over the set up for cutting HDPE sheets. (I had the same initial hope for the brand to be a feature of the molds themselves, but it just complicates things unnecessarily - and no doubt adds to the cost of having them made. I did wonder if a stamp would be a simpler solution for flat surfaces)?

My laser cutter comes with an exhaust fan and some exhaust tubing. I have it connected to my wall and it vents outside, but my fear is that the smoke in the machine is so much that it will cause problems down the road. But I think if you have a good enough system you can minimize lingering smoke in the machine. Engraving on PP does some weird stuff. Here's my personal IG I posted part of the process on. I'll share a photo in a sec. https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClDqx14ABpR/?igshid=NDk5N2NlZjQ= I wish I could give you super clear data. I think a sturdy cnc for metal will be the best. There might be something that can do this, I'm not sure about x-carve...but...maybe it will work. You'll likely need to use coolant on the milling bit/material.

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Félux ⏚

Hi, i'm new here ^^ i'm trying to build a place for recycling plastic in Lyon, it's really a start but i'm working on it !

Bonjour Félix, votre projet de création d'une recyclerie sur Lyon a-t-il avancé? Je suis à proximité de Lyon et je suis très intéressée par le recyclage du plastique qui encombrent notre environnement.

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Hi, i just started out but is it me or is the community place abandoned? https://community.preciousplastic.com/

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Also the map doesn´t show any pins and when adding myself i was the only one.... (edited)

Berry

Also the map doesn´t show any pins and when adding myself i was the only one.... (edited)

Works for me. I noticed that the map doesn't wrap the pins, but by default it starts with all the pins showing. Not sure what you mean by things being abandoned.... Site looks like it's up and running and has lots of new how-to content

Hello, I’m new here so if my questions have been answered please let me know! I want to start a production company in California recycling PP. I will like to be able to do all the process, from collecting to create a final product. Im having a hard time finding if there is any requirements for the process of cleaning the planting before shredding. If anyone can help me I will kindly appreciate it!

jfunky

Hello, I’m new here so if my questions have been answered please let me know! I want to start a production company in California recycling PP. I will like to be able to do all the process, from collecting to create a final product. Im having a hard time finding if there is any requirements for the process of cleaning the planting before shredding. If anyone can help me I will kindly appreciate it!

When we started last year we put a lot of time into trying to deal with cleaning and label removal. My current thinking is that it's important to focus on a few priorities: First, try to source plastic waste that is as clean and homogenous as possible, or requires the least steps to make it so (easily separated material types; simple rinsing needed instead of solvents or detergents); second, when there is contamination such as labels, look for ways that you can shred and utilize the material as-is rather than putting a lot of time/energy into separating out the components. For example, we find that blocks and sheets of PP, LDPE and HDPE plastic shredded with labels attached can be used to make blocks and sheets that are quite suitable for many purposes. The pure plastic is higher value and itself re-recyclable; but "downcycling" the mixed material into another life cycle that keeps it out of landfill (and replaces a virgin or pure plastic that would otherwise be used) is still a help to the environment.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Works for me. I noticed that the map doesn't wrap the pins, but by default it starts with all the pins showing. Not sure what you mean by things being abandoned.... Site looks like it's up and running and has lots of new how-to content

Sorry, my bad it seems to be a FireFox (on linux) issue... when navigating using Chrome it works fine.... note to self: always test a website with different browsers

Berry

Hi, i just started out but is it me or is the community place abandoned? https://community.preciousplastic.com/

My bad; site works perfect in Chrome but the FireFox I am running is acting up, i guess.

JohnNephew

When we started last year we put a lot of time into trying to deal with cleaning and label removal. My current thinking is that it's important to focus on a few priorities: First, try to source plastic waste that is as clean and homogenous as possible, or requires the least steps to make it so (easily separated material types; simple rinsing needed instead of solvents or detergents); second, when there is contamination such as labels, look for ways that you can shred and utilize the material as-is rather than putting a lot of time/energy into separating out the components. For example, we find that blocks and sheets of PP, LDPE and HDPE plastic shredded with labels attached can be used to make blocks and sheets that are quite suitable for many purposes. The pure plastic is higher value and itself re-recyclable; but "downcycling" the mixed material into another life cycle that keeps it out of landfill (and replaces a virgin or pure plastic that would otherwise be used) is still a help to the environment.

As with many things to do with recycling, so many problems could be mitigated at the production point of the original manufacturers. Some labels come of so easy and others, OMG

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https://www.machinedesign.com/3d-printing-cad/article/21836893/recycle-at-home-with-3d-printing I keep seeing folks talking about turning waste plastic into filament. Have tech smarter minds than I seen or tried the University of Michigan's open source recycled filiments machine? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468067218300208 Does it work? Pros cons? I'm at panini press level, so just starting to understand how these machines function (edited)

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Harvest

https://www.machinedesign.com/3d-printing-cad/article/21836893/recycle-at-home-with-3d-printing I keep seeing folks talking about turning waste plastic into filament. Have tech smarter minds than I seen or tried the University of Michigan's open source recycled filiments machine? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468067218300208 Does it work? Pros cons? I'm at panini press level, so just starting to understand how these machines function (edited)

Go have a gander in the #archived-3d-printing channel

@Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug Oh, dang. I should have posted this there. Oops! Edit to add I can't see that channel. Might be I'm too new a member or not on Patreon yet (edited)

Ah, you need to go to #🖐start-here and read it... You need to use the right emoji react to gain access to the Precious Plastic side

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JohnNephew

When we started last year we put a lot of time into trying to deal with cleaning and label removal. My current thinking is that it's important to focus on a few priorities: First, try to source plastic waste that is as clean and homogenous as possible, or requires the least steps to make it so (easily separated material types; simple rinsing needed instead of solvents or detergents); second, when there is contamination such as labels, look for ways that you can shred and utilize the material as-is rather than putting a lot of time/energy into separating out the components. For example, we find that blocks and sheets of PP, LDPE and HDPE plastic shredded with labels attached can be used to make blocks and sheets that are quite suitable for many purposes. The pure plastic is higher value and itself re-recyclable; but "downcycling" the mixed material into another life cycle that keeps it out of landfill (and replaces a virgin or pure plastic that would otherwise be used) is still a help to the environment.

Thank you so much for the time I really appreciate your message!! Thanks

Harvest

As with many things to do with recycling, so many problems could be mitigated at the production point of the original manufacturers. Some labels come of so easy and others, OMG

Isn't that the truth! Lordy, there are some labels that just peel right off cleanly with hardly any stress on your thumbnail. Why can't they all be like that?!

Boa tarde! Gostaria de receber os manuais completos da Precious Plastic em português. Como procedo~/

Hello everyone! I'm writing a paper on the potential of small scale recycling and looking at setting up my own workspace - if you own a workspace would you tell me what product you produce and how much plastic (and what types) you can recycle per day/week/month/year

5:23 PM

Also how you obtain this plastic - if collected from households how many do u collect from and how regularly ?

who are hayyanhz? excuse me, I need to talk to him about this, the email on precious plastic web won't open right away to work properly on my laptop. https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/hayyanhz

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who are hayyanhz? excuse me, I need to talk to him about this, the email on precious plastic web won't open right away to work properly on my laptop. https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/hayyanhz

Hello, orang Indonesia ya? Cari apa? Bahasa inggrisnys kurang gelas. Apa yang bisa saya bantu?

Hello everyone! I'm knew to the shredder-universe and I would like to build a shredder for 3D printed Parts. Before i start to build a shredder i've got a few questions. For example does anyone know when its usefull to use a one bladed shredder respectively a two bladed shredder?

Hello everyone! I might need some help as I see alot of this is DIY kind of work and my dad has some injection molding machines and some extrusion ones but not as small as the ones that i see in all resources, we also recycle some plastic but I wanna start doing it seriously so trying to move all the production to recycling. Any advice on how to approach this? Cheers!

Robertolson

Hello everyone! I might need some help as I see alot of this is DIY kind of work and my dad has some injection molding machines and some extrusion ones but not as small as the ones that i see in all resources, we also recycle some plastic but I wanna start doing it seriously so trying to move all the production to recycling. Any advice on how to approach this? Cheers!

This is gonna sound silly but, does your dad know much about these machines and moulds? Is he able to tell you about them? That's your best bet. Next to that, you need to figure out what you have. Some extrusion and injection machines get pretty big. So, figure out what you have and what sort of electrical requirements they have, figure out if they work, figure out where you want to use the machines, and then it might be a matter of slowly trying things out. Again, your dad will likely be the best source of info for the machines, but if you like go share photos of the machines in #archived-machines channel and someone might recognize the machines or have other insights.

Hi I’m 14 my name is Camren I’m located in Texas and I get in trouble a lot and I just need a brake from normal life and I think I can help y’all out over there!

PP is not machinable in my experience, HDPE on the other hand is. I cant even get PP to saw cut very well, it either melts or gets grabbed by the blade and thrown. the properties that make it wonderful for injection make it terrible for machining.

Butte (PP Philippines)

PP is not machinable in my experience, HDPE on the other hand is. I cant even get PP to saw cut very well, it either melts or gets grabbed by the blade and thrown. the properties that make it wonderful for injection make it terrible for machining.

Only one workspace I know of has had good success with machining it. https://instagram.com/norm.al.living?igshid=Yzg5MTU1MDY= Their advice is to use small bits and go slow. From my own attempts, you need to keep the material cool with some form of cooling like compressed air or liquid, otherwise it sort of melts and sticks and makes a big mess.

2:58 AM

Definitely not the easiest to work with

Hey there! On the topic of PP, any pointers on making CNC blanks? I put the shredded chips into an aluminum press mold and bake it in a toaster oven. Remove every 10-15 minutes to tighten clamps. The process is slow and messy. Any tips or links to instructions would be appreciated.

Hi Everybody! I made an injection mold and I'm really open for revisement and experiences on my job. I created a short description abut the whole job. you can read it here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GOSl5YLvsvEgwYt7p1gGWjZRsCuizxze/view?usp=share_link

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Our main business, Atlas Games (www.atlas-games.com), publishes tabletop board/card/roleplaying games, with worldwide sales to consumers and wholesale. Our "Replay Workshop" venture aims to produce games and and game accessories from recycled materials. While we are working on developing our own products in house, I realized that we would also be interested in the possibility of sourcing recycled plastic game products from other Precious Plastics workspaces who have materials and machinery looking for products to make.

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Hello everyone - does anyone have experience in designing molds for injection - I have my CAD design but need to make a mold for it to be CNC cut - can pay plz msg me

Charlie

Hello everyone - does anyone have experience in designing molds for injection - I have my CAD design but need to make a mold for it to be CNC cut - can pay plz msg me

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i am watching videos of various Indian and Pakistani recycling plastic shops and they appear to be using cement mixers and torches to dry the plastic before extrusion.

Butte (PP Philippines)

i am watching videos of various Indian and Pakistani recycling plastic shops and they appear to be using cement mixers and torches to dry the plastic before extrusion.

a barrel on a open fire works as well but you need to keep te plastic movin or else it well melt and stick

sponsoons

a barrel on a open fire works as well but you need to keep te plastic movin or else it well melt and stick

true, altough calculating costings of building a diy device of repurposing a mixer, the mixer is less

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8:53 AM

I I seen two videos now with two types of cement mixers used

8:55 AM

it looks like polypropylene and they used a hammer mill to shred it.

8:56 AM

the videos I have seen online of this Indian and Pakistani guys are using a hammer mill not a shredder. which makes sense as I use a small sledge hammer to break up PP plastics before running theu the granulator, but HDPE would never shatter and break the same

I am looking for posters and flyers of Precious Plastic translated into the Dutch language or a way to do so. Not all the participants we will be working with on this project are equally proficient in reading the English language.

So i found some vids And I was wondering if anybody here has tried the wet shredding of plastics?

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the videos show it to be quite effecitve and it seems you can skip the washing step/use it as a prewash

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufak9jh2KHc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxAympzG1sE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnvtJikR5W4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIeX9xtM30s

Hello, We are looking for people who recycle polyamide 6. For example, fishing nets. Is someone testing this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l_LxqiPCjw fire hazard but the feeding of the film into the machine without shredding first is interesting. i tried that with a smaller drill bit auger machine but it was not super effective, likely will need a larger auger. also the reason they running two extrusion is to release the steam gasses otherwise steam bubbles will vapor lock the filament screw or it will blow bubbles thru the extrusion die effectively cutting the strand and making it necessary to restart the whole process

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making my biggest solid chunk of plastic yet. we sorted and shredded coke bottle caps by color, then extruded in the 15kg per extrusion machine into a large stainless pan

8:58 AM

we kept the plastic hot using a hot air gun and torch until the mold was totally full

8:59 AM

then we pressed in our old press we built a few years ago. the air bag jack has been misplaced or stolen so we had to make do with a scissor car jack to power the press.

Butte (PP Philippines)

we kept the plastic hot using a hot air gun and torch until the mold was totally full

Sounds like a hot mess!

is there a country that I can export large quantities of plastic to?

My understanding is that the biggest question is not plastic but whether it's sorted/cleaned/processed. Unsorted plastic recycling with contamination is tricky; plastic that is sorted, washed, shredded should in theory be exportable anywhere. Or am I confused? (Not claiming expertise...just my impression from reading over the past couple years.)

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Sounds like a hot mess!

i de-molded it. it cracked from the internal stresses

I need to make smaller blocks which means another 100 dollars in materials

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JohnNephew

My understanding is that the biggest question is not plastic but whether it's sorted/cleaned/processed. Unsorted plastic recycling with contamination is tricky; plastic that is sorted, washed, shredded should in theory be exportable anywhere. Or am I confused? (Not claiming expertise...just my impression from reading over the past couple years.)

unsort unwashed plastic is only good for lumber. commercial sales, you will have to at a minimum sort shred and wash it. Adding a pelletizing system will give you a sellable product, but then you will have to worry about astm standards, color matching etc. In the Philippines there are buyers of washed shred plastic, but it is the Chinese and they will pelletize it, before selling abroad outside of the philippines. I have visited a factory that does this. Alternately you can pick one common plastic and make it a value added product. like PET and polyester fiber. Something I have made in the past. Although I had difficulty shredding PET in the quantities required and building a large enough machine for commercial scale to be viable. Plastic lumber on the other hand is a mix of PP/PE/PET that I run straight thru my extrusion, unwashed with some colorant added. IMO for a startup with zero budget plastic lumber is pretty much the only viable way to make a income, as the injection molding is more of a bespoke thing and harder to sell vs making a commodity product like lumber.

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JohnNephew

My understanding is that the biggest question is not plastic but whether it's sorted/cleaned/processed. Unsorted plastic recycling with contamination is tricky; plastic that is sorted, washed, shredded should in theory be exportable anywhere. Or am I confused? (Not claiming expertise...just my impression from reading over the past couple years.)

thanks for your response. You're not confused, I hear you on the processing raw plastic waste first

Butte (PP Philippines)

unsort unwashed plastic is only good for lumber. commercial sales, you will have to at a minimum sort shred and wash it. Adding a pelletizing system will give you a sellable product, but then you will have to worry about astm standards, color matching etc. In the Philippines there are buyers of washed shred plastic, but it is the Chinese and they will pelletize it, before selling abroad outside of the philippines. I have visited a factory that does this. Alternately you can pick one common plastic and make it a value added product. like PET and polyester fiber. Something I have made in the past. Although I had difficulty shredding PET in the quantities required and building a large enough machine for commercial scale to be viable. Plastic lumber on the other hand is a mix of PP/PE/PET that I run straight thru my extrusion, unwashed with some colorant added. IMO for a startup with zero budget plastic lumber is pretty much the only viable way to make a income, as the injection molding is more of a bespoke thing and harder to sell vs making a commodity product like lumber.

thanks for this insight. Been watching videos on plastic lumber as well and it seems it's a favorite of those with low budgets. Just have to build the extrusion machine first. Here in Kenya, a number of companies have gone into plastic lumber and it seems to be working out well for them

currylove

thanks for this insight. Been watching videos on plastic lumber as well and it seems it's a favorite of those with low budgets. Just have to build the extrusion machine first. Here in Kenya, a number of companies have gone into plastic lumber and it seems to be working out well for them

I suggest getting the higher capacity Extrusion Pro if you're going to do this. If you're using the smaller one, it might take far too long to extrude anything substantial

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7:31 AM

For example, it took me 3 hours to extrude 7kg with my first extrusion machine.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I suggest getting the higher capacity Extrusion Pro if you're going to do this. If you're using the smaller one, it might take far too long to extrude anything substantial

faster extrusion = better lumber because the plastic will fill the mold before it cools. that said even the v4 version i got up to 15kg per hour and it is barely adequate. I need a BIG extrusion screw now, at least 100mm to make a profit

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Butte (PP Philippines)

faster extrusion = better lumber because the plastic will fill the mold before it cools. that said even the v4 version i got up to 15kg per hour and it is barely adequate. I need a BIG extrusion screw now, at least 100mm to make a profit

you could combine 8 v4 extruders, via sprockets, .. doesn't need to be compression screws though. I'd put them in a oven, and heat it via gas or induction... standard machine shops can handle around 50mm (lathe spindle)

otherwise, if you can control them individually, you could have 2 lines with a fine control over CMYK (there's some code in the reprap codebase), some advantage over the competition

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and here's your die : https://www.instagram.com/p/CPtAAaqoq1v/?hl=en - no idea how they did ...

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A short video of the beam production

I'd like to start-up here in south Cebu, making the lumber seems to be the easiest start up product?

lovebird

you could combine 8 v4 extruders, via sprockets, .. doesn't need to be compression screws though. I'd put them in a oven, and heat it via gas or induction... standard machine shops can handle around 50mm (lathe spindle)

each extrusion screw and barrel already draws over 7kw. so x8 would be enormous.

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I'd like to start-up here in south Cebu, making the lumber seems to be the easiest start up product?

yes. I ship to Cebu also (edited)

Butte (PP Philippines)

each extrusion screw and barrel already draws over 7kw. so x8 would be enormous.

let's say it's 1.5kw per screw, 1:2 compr ratio, or less - the oven - build around - could work at 5kw - for a 3x3 array ; having the die in the oven as well could remove a lot of headache

8:49 AM

that's around 5-6k in materials, a good SJ35 extruder is about 7k ... worth the trial

no barrel heaters at all (oven). i think it's easy, no bearing housing either - sprockets or gears at the screw shaft, and the screw will push against a wall of thrust bearings not familiar with ovens or heat wires, but that could be done pretty efficient anyway, wasn't here to convince you

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sprockets & chains, etc.. are of course a bit headache and fiddling tho but one motor could deal with 3 screws

Just cuirous, has anyone here seen https://tlejourn.org/ ? They're recycling sandals by shredding discarded used sandals and making new sandals with the waste. They don't really document how to do the process, but I've been in contact with someone who got some information about the process. It's pretty simple but I don't think they're sharing as much information as I'd like. Collect material (sandals), clean them, shred them, mix them with PU (polyurethane) or some other bio-friendly alternative (not sure what...if you have an idea, please let me know), mix the sandal material and binder (PU/Bio-friendly adhesive), press into a sheet form or mould, cut into shape, and finally put on the straps. So far I've gotten as far as shredding sandals in my shredder v3 (i think it's v3?) so I'm thinking the rest is easy enough. Not a fan of making more plastic though, so looking forward to hearing if anyone has a clue to what this bio-friendly adhesive might be. It needs to cure and not be sticky when it's done curing!!!

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9:48 AM

Shredded sandals from.my neighborhood

9:48 AM

that's using a 9mm filter if curious

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Just cuirous, has anyone here seen https://tlejourn.org/ ? They're recycling sandals by shredding discarded used sandals and making new sandals with the waste. They don't really document how to do the process, but I've been in contact with someone who got some information about the process. It's pretty simple but I don't think they're sharing as much information as I'd like. Collect material (sandals), clean them, shred them, mix them with PU (polyurethane) or some other bio-friendly alternative (not sure what...if you have an idea, please let me know), mix the sandal material and binder (PU/Bio-friendly adhesive), press into a sheet form or mould, cut into shape, and finally put on the straps. So far I've gotten as far as shredding sandals in my shredder v3 (i think it's v3?) so I'm thinking the rest is easy enough. Not a fan of making more plastic though, so looking forward to hearing if anyone has a clue to what this bio-friendly adhesive might be. It needs to cure and not be sticky when it's done curing!!!

isnt that done commericially already? I remember seeing a lot of youtube vidoes about similar recyling

12:06 PM

ill see if i can find one

sponsoons

isnt that done commericially already? I remember seeing a lot of youtube vidoes about similar recyling

I haven never seen it done, i have never seen any products marketed as such. I'm sure it's not a new idea and not groundbreaking, but it will draw attention for sure.

2:17 PM

Nice shredder!

6:37 PM

Some of the smaller, more household styles more my level for home projects

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Or this one, 25D, 2:5 compression ratio @ 60% min. root diameter & 2.7mm flight with, 28mm pitch, hand turned @ 750W - that's the first and last time I've seen a surface finish like that

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Harvest

Some of the smaller, more household styles more my level for home projects

Thank you! It does really good

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Shredded ~20 flip flops and made them into a sheet by mixing with PU. Looking for a more eco friendly alternative to using PU, but this seems to work for now. I used my sheet press and mould to press and hold the shredded flip flips and PU mix together (no heat). The demoulding spray seems to have done its job and this sheet came out OK. Next thing to do: press cut new sandals.

sponsoons

ill see if i can find one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annfwTTEJjY

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many similar ones wit te same concept

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sponsoons

many similar ones wit te same concept

That's next level for sure. It makes me wonder if such thing exists where I live and if so, do they not advertise they're making recycled sandals? But wow, that's quite the investment!

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

That's next level for sure. It makes me wonder if such thing exists where I live and if so, do they not advertise they're making recycled sandals? But wow, that's quite the investment!

most dont in what ive noticed but tbh im always surprised they dont

1:19 PM

like sir thats free optics,ur already using recycled material,why not advertise it as such

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Shredded ~20 flip flops and made them into a sheet by mixing with PU. Looking for a more eco friendly alternative to using PU, but this seems to work for now. I used my sheet press and mould to press and hold the shredded flip flips and PU mix together (no heat). The demoulding spray seems to have done its job and this sheet came out OK. Next thing to do: press cut new sandals.

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing with the community!

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Amazing!

Today is our second batch running recycled plastic pellet. We had some extrusion grade pellets last year and it did not work so great. It was so thick, and we was running it thru the v4 600mmx30mm extrusion screw. Today we are running it thru a 1.2 meter x 30mm extrusion screw machine. still 5hp. Injection mold grade HDPE today with a little bit of black shred to color it grey. we are making a 6 foot long 1x2 board averaging every 4 min 30 seconds (including mold change) . It is recycled plastic lumber for store shelves at a mall.

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polyurethane? is PU?

Butte (PP Philippines)

polyurethane? is PU?

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don't click suspicious links (edited)

Fatih

don't click suspicious links (edited)

Thanks for the reminder!

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i just really have a big dislike for scams of that kind

10:22 PM

if i see it i'll try to remind people of such things

10:22 PM

Alguna persona habla español o portugués requiero una información para ser parte de ese hermoso proyecto

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Alguna persona habla español o portugués requiero una información para ser parte de ese hermoso proyecto

No hablo español ni portugués, pero tengo traductor de google. ¿Cuáles son sus preguntas?

@ode I would like to carry out a recycling project, with vulnerable low-income families, so that they can have decent housing for themselves and their families, I would like to develop the project here in Brazil, I would like to have a little knowledge about how to granulate the plastics in the correct way and what type of plastics can I use to create a brick, that has resistance and where could I buy or develop the machinery to carry out the project, I appreciate your attention and your contribution in this project God bless you

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It's wonderful you want to make materials to help people not well off. It would be worth researching what plastics can deal with temperature change. There's a group that used metal cages, concrete, and plastic bottles to build small homes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFcPqXxAUWM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El6AU3riRI8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3PTEIu0TAU

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@ode I would like to carry out a recycling project, with vulnerable low-income families, so that they can have decent housing for themselves and their families, I would like to develop the project here in Brazil, I would like to have a little knowledge about how to granulate the plastics in the correct way and what type of plastics can I use to create a brick, that has resistance and where could I buy or develop the machinery to carry out the project, I appreciate your attention and your contribution in this project God bless you

Have you seen the resources on the precious plastics website?

@ode I have not really seen them, I just watched the videos that they sent me excellent ideas, recently I was part of starting to soak up the subject, but in the part of Brazil that I am I would like to develop LEGO-type block bricks so that it is not so complex at the time of assembling taking into account its firm and solid base in the structure when starting to structure the house I am a graphic designer so I have a little of what I want to develop in my head for many years everyone tells me that I'm crazy because I want to, contribute my idea and work here to improve the planet a bit for my children by teaching based on the social and environmental area since I have no knowledge about machines but I have that idea that has been echoing in my head for many, many years. years and I think the time has come to develop it

5:52 AM

@GamingFedora I thank you for the information, and I would love to develop the 100% plastic idea to reduce costs in the production of the same brick, since cement has a somewhat high cost and apart from that, the positive environmental impact on the subject of solid plastic waste is greater that falls into the seas and rivers of our planet

I understand fully. There may be some free CAD programs and classes that may help in designing the perfect brick for construction.

@GamingFedora perfect, thank you very much, where could I get that information since I have that dream of doing and if it is a free study what a blessing to be able to do it to help those who need it

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@GamingFedora Thank you very much for the information, God bless you

God bless you too friend

Steven L

@GamingFedora Thank you very much for the information, God bless you

Sometimes cheap and recycling don't work. In my own research, the local methods used for building homes is usually the most affordable. If you're making plastic bricks, it's likely going to cost more unless you have free plastic and free labor. If you're not familiar, there is already a plastic brick module you can use to produce bricks. If the house is large and a lot of walls, it will take longer to produce enough bricks, maybe even a year if it's a larger house.

6:59 AM

https://youtu.be/Aqn1PYbkgf0

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Steven L

@ode I have not really seen them, I just watched the videos that they sent me excellent ideas, recently I was part of starting to soak up the subject, but in the part of Brazil that I am I would like to develop LEGO-type block bricks so that it is not so complex at the time of assembling taking into account its firm and solid base in the structure when starting to structure the house I am a graphic designer so I have a little of what I want to develop in my head for many years everyone tells me that I'm crazy because I want to, contribute my idea and work here to improve the planet a bit for my children by teaching based on the social and environmental area since I have no knowledge about machines but I have that idea that has been echoing in my head for many, many years. years and I think the time has come to develop it

Hey! I’m a graphic designer too! So cool! There is a 3D modeling and animation software called blender that might help you create some models for your idea if you are interested in it.

ode

Hey! I’m a graphic designer too! So cool! There is a 3D modeling and animation software called blender that might help you create some models for your idea if you are interested in it.

I had a good chat with Steven. He's got some ideas about a different brick design, similar to Conceptos Plasticos. I'll put it together in sketchup when I get the drawings.

Hello friends, I am already working on the plans, there would be 2 brick options, one to be tied to the base and foundations, and another that would be something to couple that would only fit, that would fulfill the type of filling function, and the two would be of different sizes, as well as the beams. mooring that go in horizontal and vertical position

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I had a good chat with Steven. He's got some ideas about a different brick design, similar to Conceptos Plasticos. I'll put it together in sketchup when I get the drawings.

Oh awesome! I had to go to sleep so I’m glad the conversation kept going! I look forward to any updates you all might share.

@ode Here I have a freehand preview of what I think of the mooring bricks at the base of the structure, since I think of two types of bricks, one that would give stability by means of screws and washers, the other type would be without holes, which would be filled after the mooring that would give stability between the base and the columns

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@Steven L these are so awesome!!

Thank you very much that is my idea that I would love to develop for the construction of houses

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So we just had another recycling organization rip off Precious Plastic Philippines.

they borrowed my prototype baling machine. It was a prototype and it was intended as a test unit to be returned when the unit they ordered was delivered. So I built the production unit according to the specs changed by the client. Client then sent me a picture of a fake bank deposit slip to my bank and demanded I ship ASAP. But of course no money deposited even after several days. Finally made some noise and they deposit the final pay. However despite many promises, they will not return my prototype baling machine and will not even answer the phone.

It was really something, as it is a BIG organization with huge corporate sponsorship, huge social media and then they do this...

so this is why I have not been able to do a instruction video on building a manual operated baling machine. It was stolen.

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Butte (PP Philippines)

So we just had another recycling organization rip off Precious Plastic Philippines.

they borrowed my prototype baling machine. It was a prototype and it was intended as a test unit to be returned when the unit they ordered was delivered. So I built the production unit according to the specs changed by the client. Client then sent me a picture of a fake bank deposit slip to my bank and demanded I ship ASAP. But of course no money deposited even after several days. Finally made some noise and they deposit the final pay. However despite many promises, they will not return my prototype baling machine and will not even answer the phone.

It was really something, as it is a BIG organization with huge corporate sponsorship, huge social media and then they do this...

so this is why I have not been able to do a instruction video on building a manual operated baling machine. It was stolen.

(edited)

Hows the police over there? Think they would be helpful?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Hows the police over there? Think they would be helpful?

i can file a case, embarrass them publicly. they got a LOT of big name corporate sponsors.

I look forward to seeing things explode on social media

the head of the organization finally emailed me back, but it was just a punt to his underlings who already did not do anything in the first place

Hi, is here someone who has the solidworks files or the right dimentions of the shredder parts ( especially the shredder knives and the fixed knives)

LynnJansen

Hi, is here someone who has the solidworks files or the right dimentions of the shredder parts ( especially the shredder knives and the fixed knives)

Have you checked the files already? Click the download link and then you should be able to find the files you need. https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-a-shredder-workspace

Set up a Shredder Workspace

In this How-to we’re going to guide you through all the steps to set up a Shredder Workspace. Learn about plastic, how to find a space, get the shredder, find customers and connect to the Precious Plastic Universe. Step 1-3: Intro Step 4-8: Learn Step 9-11: Set up Step 12-17: Run Step 18-20: Share

LynnJansen

Hi, is here someone who has the solidworks files or the right dimentions of the shredder parts ( especially the shredder knives and the fixed knives)

Look also at the latest version : https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/shrpro---20 Simpler electronic box, and updated knives.

SHRPRO - 2.0

The Shredder Pro - 2.0 is an iteration based on the Shredder Pro - 1.0 (https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/shredderpro) With this machine you can shred your plastic into flakes (50kg/h), ready to melt them into precious products

This version of the Shredder PRO (2.0) solves one main problem: Safety. How? By following the CE ...

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Hi all, I am setting up my collection point pin on the precious plastics map, but am unable to change the type of plastic we collect in the settings. Any advice?

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Hi all, I am setting up my collection point pin on the precious plastics map, but am unable to change the type of plastic we collect in the settings. Any advice?

Thanks for reporting this misbehaviour. Can you confirm your profile URL and type of plastic you'd like to collect? This will allow us to replicate the buggy behaviour and manually make the data changes for you whilst we address the bug.

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Gooodafternoon can I ask what size of auger wood drill it is?.Im newbie here

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Gooodafternoon can I ask what size of auger wood drill it is?.Im newbie here

I'm not sure but you need to find a pipe with an inside diameter that works well with whatever size wood auger you have available. Keep your tolerances close, but the wood drill doesn't work as well as the screws designed specifically for plastic.

4:06 PM

So for example if your pipe has an inside diameter of 16mm, then find a 16mm wood drill. You may want a slightly smaller drill in case the drill is too tight in the pipe/barrel.

4:06 PM

So for a 16id pipe you may want to get a 15mm wood screw.

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7:49 PM

Was curious if anyone has tried making a sheetpress with infrared heaters? I have a vacuformer with infrared heating and I'm curious if it can be revamped to melt hdpe into sheet goods

I find heat and pressure combined are really key, so something like a t shirt heat transfer press is pretty good off the shelf

Morning guys!!

'ello

Good evening haha

Greetings! I starting my buisness on designing injection molds for low pressure machines used in cheap home recycling. My two greatest question nowadays is: 1.) Can I use a software for mold flow simulation, that can adjust the technological parameters(pressure holding time, mold temp., gate diemeter, injection presure) in a predefined order? For the best production I need to handle the process like an optimization problem, where software adjust parameters and making iterations for the desired quality output. I also need to simulate with more material properties. In the extremes of plastic waste quality. 2.) How to find the balance between upcycling (ie: making disposable waste to the most non-disposable products) and following the waste stream in quantity (ie:making things, that can be used in the same quantity like the waste stream).

1:57 PM

Any books on these issues?

Hi everyone, a small group of undergraduate students are creating the sheet press and cooling press. I have a few questions regarding the wiring of the heating blocks and the electronics box. Any sort of help will be greatly appreciated. Please also explain in very simple terms as none of us electrical engineers hahahah. 1. For the heating blocks, what kind of wire is used to connect the 5multi core cable to the heating element? 2) in the sheet press graphic circuit, what wires are connected to which wires on the 5multi core cable? Which wires are power/ground and which wire get hot? 3) where in the pressing plate does the thermocouple get attached to? Is it in the center of one of the pressing plates? Is it somewhere in the side frame? 4) is there any way we can get a simplified circuit diagram that shows exactly which wires are connected to which wires? The YouTube video goes extremely fast and does not go into any detail regarding the wiring and we are stuff on this portion. 5) what do L1, L2, and L3 mean in regards to 3 phase power? Thank you to anyone who responds to this! Your help will be greatly greatly appreciated!!!!!!

11:48 PM

Thank you to @TheGuy for this diagram from a few months ago. We are still confused how to wire everything together. Why do the heating Elements have L1/L2 , or L2/L3, and so on? What gets passed through the ceramic terminals? Which lower and ground wires get connected to which wires?

Has anyone on here worked with or purchased anything from Recosolution in India? Just curious. We are planning on purchasing a sheetpress system from them which is obviously a major thing. They have been awesome and very professional. Just wanted to see if the community had any feedback about them as an org and any experience with their machines. Thanks!

lia sideris

Hi everyone, a small group of undergraduate students are creating the sheet press and cooling press. I have a few questions regarding the wiring of the heating blocks and the electronics box. Any sort of help will be greatly appreciated. Please also explain in very simple terms as none of us electrical engineers hahahah. 1. For the heating blocks, what kind of wire is used to connect the 5multi core cable to the heating element? 2) in the sheet press graphic circuit, what wires are connected to which wires on the 5multi core cable? Which wires are power/ground and which wire get hot? 3) where in the pressing plate does the thermocouple get attached to? Is it in the center of one of the pressing plates? Is it somewhere in the side frame? 4) is there any way we can get a simplified circuit diagram that shows exactly which wires are connected to which wires? The YouTube video goes extremely fast and does not go into any detail regarding the wiring and we are stuff on this portion. 5) what do L1, L2, and L3 mean in regards to 3 phase power? Thank you to anyone who responds to this! Your help will be greatly greatly appreciated!!!!!!

Your graphic doesnt look quite right. Here's what I have.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Your graphic doesnt look quite right. Here's what I have.

What do the different colored wires mean in this schematic?

lia sideris

Hi everyone, a small group of undergraduate students are creating the sheet press and cooling press. I have a few questions regarding the wiring of the heating blocks and the electronics box. Any sort of help will be greatly appreciated. Please also explain in very simple terms as none of us electrical engineers hahahah. 1. For the heating blocks, what kind of wire is used to connect the 5multi core cable to the heating element? 2) in the sheet press graphic circuit, what wires are connected to which wires on the 5multi core cable? Which wires are power/ground and which wire get hot? 3) where in the pressing plate does the thermocouple get attached to? Is it in the center of one of the pressing plates? Is it somewhere in the side frame? 4) is there any way we can get a simplified circuit diagram that shows exactly which wires are connected to which wires? The YouTube video goes extremely fast and does not go into any detail regarding the wiring and we are stuff on this portion. 5) what do L1, L2, and L3 mean in regards to 3 phase power? Thank you to anyone who responds to this! Your help will be greatly greatly appreciated!!!!!!

L1 - Dark gray L2 - Black L3 - light gray N - blue G - green/yellow

1:54 AM

L1/L2/L3 are your hot/line/live wires. These are the ones that will shock you pretty bad, so dont mess with wiring when your machine is plugged in.

So do the L1/L2/L3 wires get connected to the power wire on the heat exchanger ? And the blue to the ground?

lia sideris

Hi everyone, a small group of undergraduate students are creating the sheet press and cooling press. I have a few questions regarding the wiring of the heating blocks and the electronics box. Any sort of help will be greatly appreciated. Please also explain in very simple terms as none of us electrical engineers hahahah. 1. For the heating blocks, what kind of wire is used to connect the 5multi core cable to the heating element? 2) in the sheet press graphic circuit, what wires are connected to which wires on the 5multi core cable? Which wires are power/ground and which wire get hot? 3) where in the pressing plate does the thermocouple get attached to? Is it in the center of one of the pressing plates? Is it somewhere in the side frame? 4) is there any way we can get a simplified circuit diagram that shows exactly which wires are connected to which wires? The YouTube video goes extremely fast and does not go into any detail regarding the wiring and we are stuff on this portion. 5) what do L1, L2, and L3 mean in regards to 3 phase power? Thank you to anyone who responds to this! Your help will be greatly greatly appreciated!!!!!!

1. The 5 core cabling connects from electrical box to the heating plates sections. The one that goes to the top will connect to a terminal block and that's where you wire things to L1/L2/L3 and Neutral. 2. L1 - Dark gray (Hot/Line/Live) L2 - Black (Hot/Line/Live) L3 - light gray (Hot/Line/Live) N - blue (Neutral) G - green/yellow (Ground/Earth) 3. I am not sure about placement of the Thermocouple. If it were me, i'd connect it somewhere near a heater block near the center, make sure it has a good mechanical connection, it needs to feel the heat. Closer to a heater block is better since it will reduce the likelyhood over massively overshooting temperatures. 4. The circuit diagram that I'm looking at is already simplified. It shows where all the wires need to go, unfortunately the photo you shared is not complete. 5. L1/L2/L3 are your hot wires. They are the ones that will shock you. All the circuits in this machine have loads that require only one phase (one L wire) plus Neutral. To complete a circuit you need your Supply (L), Neutral (N), and a load. The load has two wires and one needs to be connected to L and the other wire needs to be connected to N. If you want more details about 3 phase power, it's not really necessary to go into details for this machine over 3 phase power, but AC power is delivered in a sine wave. A wave has 360 degrees. Each phase is offset by 120 degrees (L1 is 0 degrees, L2 is 120 degrees offset, L3 is 240 degrees offset). There are devices that require three phases such as electrical motors and do not require neutral. But, for the sheet press all of the loads require only 1 phase. The reason why 3 phases are used is to help spread the load over several phases and reduce the size of cabling.

lia sideris

So do the L1/L2/L3 wires get connected to the power wire on the heat exchanger ? And the blue to the ground?

I highly recommend you download the files for the sheetpress and have a look in the schematic folder. https://cutt.ly/starterkit-sheetpress

lia sideris

So do the L1/L2/L3 wires get connected to the power wire on the heat exchanger ? And the blue to the ground?

you have all 5 wires going to the top plate.

2:10 AM

The wiring is slightly different for the plates, but you still run all the wires to the bottom.

I wouldn't say toss out the schematics as they do work for the design which uses 220V heaters. Nobody is mentioning 440V.

But with your questions it does feel like you should find someone who can wire this up for you. Do be sure to have a correct power source too, no sense building a machine you can't power up!

Hi guys, can you help me? Where can I still get the old Shredder/Extruder drawings? (the new one is for me to expensive)

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

you have all 5 wires going to the top plate.

Hi, you said that all five wires are going to either the top or bottom plate - but this schematic only has four for each? The top plate and bottom plate is missing the dark gray wire (the L1/L2/L3 and Neutral.2.L1)? (edited)

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lia sideris

Hi, you said that all five wires are going to either the top or bottom plate - but this schematic only has four for each? The top plate and bottom plate is missing the dark gray wire (the L1/L2/L3 and Neutral.2.L1)? (edited)

Oh good, you're paying attention!

I think i was focusing more on the wires from the ceramic blocks as it seems some colors are not correct for a section of the bottom plate. Wiring according to what I told you is going to be: Top Plate L2/L3/N/G Bottom Plate L1/L2/N/G So this means 4 wires to top and 4 wires to bottom. Make sure your connections are snug. Loose connections can cause a poor connection which causes heat which can melt things, smoke, or even fire.

if you use the extrusion pro machine for injection molding how many grams of plastic would you be able to do per shot?

hello all

400g is a lot!

8:25 PM

That's good, is there any link to see anyone trying that?

Cool! What kind of mold did you use?

9:42 PM

Fully enclosed or two lard?

Petaparsec

if you use the extrusion pro machine for injection molding how many grams of plastic would you be able to do per shot?

I've made a beam that was 7kg. Brick moulds are about 1.7kg. Sometimes the trick is to have the mould hot or preheated.

12:07 AM

These were enclosed moulds.

I guess I should be fine then with my 150 gram parts

12:09 AM

Why are the industrial machines for small parts so huge then with multi ton capacities?

Petaparsec

Why are the industrial machines for small parts so huge then with multi ton capacities?

I can only make some assumptions for this. I will say that in some cases, it might make sense for you to get one of the big factory machines if your business thrives wildly. So what's the difference? Precious Plastic is small capacity, small scale, and generally is easier to access than what you'd find in factories. Industrial machines need to make aa lot of parts. For a 150g part for example, the process will be quick, the mould will have a cooling jacket so it doesn't overheat, it will have ejection pins to push out the moulded product automatically, and basically you'll have this machine make 150g parts every few seconds. For an extrusion pro, you'd need maybe 45 seconds or so, you likely won't be hitting the same pressure as the industrial machine so your product will probably turn out a bit wavy on the surface.

The automation part and ejection pins are ok I'm going to make those too later on but the lack of pressure you mention is worrying me

Petaparsec

The automation part and ejection pins are ok I'm going to make those too later on but the lack of pressure you mention is worrying me

I've busted off bolts from a mould before so there is quite a lot of pressure these machines can push out. But sometimes the pressure is not enough, you need a high enough flow rate. The idea is to push out the hot plastic quickly and before it cools down too much in the mould. I think the easiest thing you can do to counter most issues you might have is to simply heat up the mould to a certain temperature range and you should yield good results. One of my assumptions with injecting plastic is you need to keep pressure on the product while it cools down. If you inject plastic into a hot mould and then remove the mould from the machine, plastic will push out the injection point and might cause some deformities in your product. If your mould has a cooling feature, you should be able to keep the pressure on while it cools down (happens quickly if you have things set up right) and then be able to immediately remove your mould, remove the product, and go again.

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Hi there. Has anyone worked with used coffee grounds as part of the beyond plastic initiative? I was wondering if it was possible to make a sheet in the sheetpress and would really appreciate any and all assistance in the matter.

Ezaan_MuSo

Hi there. Has anyone worked with used coffee grounds as part of the beyond plastic initiative? I was wondering if it was possible to make a sheet in the sheetpress and would really appreciate any and all assistance in the matter.

I know a company in the Netherlands who produces coffee grounds as a base for polymers: http://www.ovdesigns.nl/

Hello,Can anyone who has precious plastic brick mould please send the mould measurements i need it for a construction project and i dont have the mould yet last time the mould was the wrong size. somewon please help!!

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Hello,Can anyone who has precious plastic brick mould please send the mould measurements i need it for a construction project and i dont have the mould yet last time the mould was the wrong size. somewon please help!!

Triple - 29.5cm x 16cm x 10cm Double - 19.5cm x 16cm x 10cm Single - 9.5cm x 16cm x 10cm (16cm tall, 10cm deep) The teeth on the top are 2.5cm There might be some variance depending on shrinkage and build quality of the moulds.

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Peter-Bas

I know a company in the Netherlands who produces coffee grounds as a base for polymers: http://www.ovdesigns.nl/

I went through the link you shared and I saw that there wasn't much for me to take on from. I'm thinking of making sheets using the sheetpress but I'm not sure how coffee grounds would work as a potential material. I'd like to know if there are any binding agents that need to be used. Just want to figure out a direction to go ahead. https://youtu.be/e-iL2hzVePM This is the closest thing I've found but they say their "recipe" is a "production secret" (edited)

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Ezaan_MuSo

Hi there. Has anyone worked with used coffee grounds as part of the beyond plastic initiative? I was wondering if it was possible to make a sheet in the sheetpress and would really appreciate any and all assistance in the matter.

Better to ask in the #archived-beyond-plastic channel

There's a lot of info if you look up bio resin coffee grinds on Google. There's a few different t methods. I've had a friend try something with coffee grinds, water, and lignin? I think he said the lignin from coffee grinds plus the moisture, pressure, and heat, would help bind it all together. But I have a feeling the pressure requirements might be a bit too high for the sheet press, but it's just a guess.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Triple - 29.5cm x 16cm x 10cm Double - 19.5cm x 16cm x 10cm Single - 9.5cm x 16cm x 10cm (16cm tall, 10cm deep) The teeth on the top are 2.5cm There might be some variance depending on shrinkage and build quality of the moulds.

the teeth is 2,5cm tall and 2,5cm offset in?

spiros nik

the teeth is 2,5cm tall and 2,5cm offset in?

The teeth are inset by about 1cmm from the edge.

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hello, i have some simple discord question. sorry for being offtopic, but i don't know where i can get a proper answer at places where "community server" feature from discord is not being used. this server should have community feature being active, that means content/spam-filtering feature is being active for all channels. i heard the content filter sucks and had too many false positives ( https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360040939592-Explicit-Content-Filter-Dealing-With-False-Positives ) what's your experience here (or on other community servers with forum feature on) with posting images? is the content filter working properly, or does it fail way to often , filtering harmless images ? from https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/wzfaew/explicit_content_filter_is_broken/ : "Yeah, that doesn’t work. I did it myself, and bot even THEY can unmark it manually. Their AI sucks so bad they don’t even know how to fix it themselves." (edited)

RolandCGN

hello, i have some simple discord question. sorry for being offtopic, but i don't know where i can get a proper answer at places where "community server" feature from discord is not being used. this server should have community feature being active, that means content/spam-filtering feature is being active for all channels. i heard the content filter sucks and had too many false positives ( https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360040939592-Explicit-Content-Filter-Dealing-With-False-Positives ) what's your experience here (or on other community servers with forum feature on) with posting images? is the content filter working properly, or does it fail way to often , filtering harmless images ? from https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/wzfaew/explicit_content_filter_is_broken/ : "Yeah, that doesn’t work. I did it myself, and bot even THEY can unmark it manually. Their AI sucks so bad they don’t even know how to fix it themselves." (edited)

I cannot answer this because I do not know. I don't recall there ever being any complaints about things being filtered falsely. Spam enters the chats every once in a while but mods clean it up.

thanks for feedback

HI all, I would like to know if anyone managed to build a bigger sheet press than the standard 1000mm x 1000mm - What are the reasoning for the size chosen? Most standard laser cutters or CNC routers have different bed sizes: 400mm x 600mm / 600mm x 1000mm / 800mm x 1200mm / 900mm x 1300mm / 1000mm x 1500mm etc.

Ivan_PlastikiZA

HI all, I would like to know if anyone managed to build a bigger sheet press than the standard 1000mm x 1000mm - What are the reasoning for the size chosen? Most standard laser cutters or CNC routers have different bed sizes: 400mm x 600mm / 600mm x 1000mm / 800mm x 1200mm / 900mm x 1300mm / 1000mm x 1500mm etc.

A friend has. Customers want 1m x 1m sheets and you need extra margin to fit the mould and also shrinkage needs to be accounted for. They do have access to cnc routing and the cnc machine size is large, I think 4ft x 8ft or 122cm x 44cm, however, usually they cut sheets down with hand tools unless there's an order for signage.

Hi everyone, by the way anyone know where I can get the petbot machine to convert plastic bottles into filaments???

Hello my Name is Pat, I am from Cambodia and would like to ask about how to not have the plastic boards final heat press have waves and become smooth on the final product

tontoton7

Hello my Name is Pat, I am from Cambodia and would like to ask about how to not have the plastic boards final heat press have waves and become smooth on the final product

Can you share photos of what you're talking about? I think it would be super helpful.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Can you share photos of what you're talking about? I think it would be super helpful.

here are the photos

tontoton7

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Woah that looks neat but i guess not so neat if it's not desired. What is contacting the plastic on the surface in the heat press?

Film sort of like lamination sheets

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Woah that looks neat but i guess not so neat if it's not desired. What is contacting the plastic on the surface in the heat press?

ADg-RFSMS Series, ADg-RFSMS2

tontoton7

ADg-RFSMS Series, ADg-RFSMS2

Woah, this is something im not familiar with. I think this is some sort of PET used for printing. It's interesting to see how it works, but if you dont want the surface to look like this you might want to use methods that others use. Usually people use steel or aluminium to directly press on the plastic. Anyone else use a PET coating on their sheets?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Woah, this is something im not familiar with. I think this is some sort of PET used for printing. It's interesting to see how it works, but if you dont want the surface to look like this you might want to use methods that others use. Usually people use steel or aluminium to directly press on the plastic. Anyone else use a PET coating on their sheets?

when we dont use any film it sticks to the heat press that is why we used films

Don't press directly on the plastic with your heat press. Use steel plates a part of your mould.

11:03 AM

so your heat press will contact a steel plate

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Don't press directly on the plastic with your heat press. Use steel plates a part of your mould.

that's good advise we will try

good luck! let us know what happens! Do use a very light coat of oil or demoulding agent

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Don't press directly on the plastic with your heat press. Use steel plates a part of your mould.

I use MS sheets as part of my mould for the sheetpress. After a few cycles of heating and cooling, the sheets get tarnished which then translates onto the plastic sheet a well. I do apply a fresh coat of silicone oil on the MS before every use but that doesn't prevent the brownish colour from coming onto the plastic sheets. I was thinking of using teflon paper as an intermediate layer between the MS and plastic so that the brownish tarnish doesn't come onto the plastic sheets surface. Any thoughts on this?

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Ezaan_MuSo

I use MS sheets as part of my mould for the sheetpress. After a few cycles of heating and cooling, the sheets get tarnished which then translates onto the plastic sheet a well. I do apply a fresh coat of silicone oil on the MS before every use but that doesn't prevent the brownish colour from coming onto the plastic sheets. I was thinking of using teflon paper as an intermediate layer between the MS and plastic so that the brownish tarnish doesn't come onto the plastic sheets surface. Any thoughts on this?

We use ADg-RFSMS2 film but you can only use it once and that is very costly but as Ben has suggested to try Steel plates and I will update you on how it goes

This is what we were able to make once in has already gone thought the extruder to become pellet form the we heat press, but with the film it still have waves on it but we will try with the steel plates as the in between for the heat press with demolding oil

tontoton7

Hello my Name is Pat, I am from Cambodia and would like to ask about how to not have the plastic boards final heat press have waves and become smooth on the final product

omg I'm also Cambodian!

Watermelona

omg I'm also Cambodian!

I work in cambodia but im not cambodian

I'm cambodian but I do not live in Cambodia lol

3:16 AM

I'm glad cambodia is trying to work on their plastic industry though

3:16 AM

there are a lot of wastes in their sewage and just everywhere

we are trying our best for the environment and the communities here in cambodia

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What happened to the old precious plastics YouTube channel ?

Hello guys! Right now I'am building an extrusor machine in my school and got a question for you all: Does it works using a 24mm diameter wick for wood as a screw extrusor?

12:31 AM

Besides: Can I use a stainless steel as a extrusion tube? Thanks!

12:31 AM

Cristian Castro

Hello guys! Right now I'am building an extrusor machine in my school and got a question for you all: Does it works using a 24mm diameter wick for wood as a screw extrusor?

It's recommended to not use a wood screw/wood auger but instead an extrusion screw. Stainless tube works well.

I have a question about the lining that is inside many soda and water bottle caps. Based on some Googling it seems that they are typically made from thermoplastic elastomers (TPEs). They are very difficult to remove and I'm wondering how others have handled this material? Do you not accept these types of caps or do you recycle them along with, say, your HDPE? Thanks!

rbercich

I have a question about the lining that is inside many soda and water bottle caps. Based on some Googling it seems that they are typically made from thermoplastic elastomers (TPEs). They are very difficult to remove and I'm wondering how others have handled this material? Do you not accept these types of caps or do you recycle them along with, say, your HDPE? Thanks!

I usually don’t bother if the bottle cap has that inside

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rbercich

I have a question about the lining that is inside many soda and water bottle caps. Based on some Googling it seems that they are typically made from thermoplastic elastomers (TPEs). They are very difficult to remove and I'm wondering how others have handled this material? Do you not accept these types of caps or do you recycle them along with, say, your HDPE? Thanks!

I have recycled some of those with HDPE but I'm not at all confident that I should.

rbercich

I have a question about the lining that is inside many soda and water bottle caps. Based on some Googling it seems that they are typically made from thermoplastic elastomers (TPEs). They are very difficult to remove and I'm wondering how others have handled this material? Do you not accept these types of caps or do you recycle them along with, say, your HDPE? Thanks!

remove it. It does depend on what youre trying to produce but this blue part should be viewed as contamination.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

It's recommended to not use a wood screw/wood auger but instead an extrusion screw. Stainless tube works well.

And what thickness do you recommend for it?

Hi! I am planning to build sheet press but in different dimensions, may i ask how you calculated the required pressure to press the pet bottle?

Donut

Hi! I am planning to build sheet press but in different dimensions, may i ask how you calculated the required pressure to press the pet bottle?

For PET, the sheet-press will not work, generally the plastic will not melt, or crack after cooling.

i mean for this project

Yes, with this machine, the pressure will not be your main problem if you work with PET. Temperature range and dryness is what is difficult to achieve. We are using a 8 tons jack on a square meter with this machine. Feel free to start trying with PET, just be aware it will be experimental.

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anyone intersted on a 3d printing head wich prints recycled plastic?

mikeveres

anyone intersted on a 3d printing head wich prints recycled plastic?

Yes, would you DM me?

Sure

saw this on a youtube video... had to screenshot it for a good laugh...

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precious

Hi there! What are your prices for the materials? I am defining prices at the moment and thought about something like this:

1 kg shredded plastic (€10)
1 meter of 5x3 beam equals 1kg (€15)
60x60 sheet 12mm (2,5kg) - €60

(edited)

Hi, I'm launching a French project and I'm wondering what is the thinnest thickness for recycled plastic please?

marjanzitnik

Hi there! What are your prices for the materials? I am defining prices at the moment and thought about something like this:

1 kg shredded plastic (€10)
1 meter of 5x3 beam equals 1kg (€15)
60x60 sheet 12mm (2,5kg) - €60

(edited)

Prices will vary, sometimes by a lot depending on country. I can buy 1kg shredded and cleaned HDPE for €0.70 (11.500idr) but if I sold, maybe €1/kg 1m x 1m sheets €60-80 (1.000.000-1.400.000idr) 150cm x 10cm x 2 cm 3kg plank €13 (200.000idr)

MarieKukiLife

Hi, I'm launching a French project and I'm wondering what is the thinnest thickness for recycled plastic please?

Ive made some super thin plastic in the sheet press by pressing with no mould just as a test. I didn't measure, but it was about as thin as a plastic bag.

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hello people. Gm

5:02 PM

I am in Argentina, trying to set up a workshop

5:02 PM

I have been looking into the blueprints

5:03 PM

And was wondering what version do you recomend to me?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Prices will vary, sometimes by a lot depending on country. I can buy 1kg shredded and cleaned HDPE for €0.70 (11.500idr) but if I sold, maybe €1/kg 1m x 1m sheets €60-80 (1.000.000-1.400.000idr) 150cm x 10cm x 2 cm 3kg plank €13 (200.000idr)

thanks for the precious info ben, thats much less than materials listed on Bazar

@JohnNephew saw this on the internet and made me think of you hahaha

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mikeveres

anyone intersted on a 3d printing head wich prints recycled plastic?

Very interested?

Is under developing... a few months and its on the bazar

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Hi! Regarding to the Plastic sheet press, where do you place the probe of the temperature controller? Thanks

Anyone has any information on how to do bio Plastics from mangos? Or coconuts? Or point me where should I should look for it? Thanks in advance!

I am asking because my family own a little factory with inyection machines, we do recycle plastic bags that came from a mango facility (they use it for transporting them) and use it to make other products, but still I want to be able to make use of the mangos and coconuts residues that i have available to make some bioplastic if anyone point me in a direction would be great or if it's even posible

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10:03 AM

One day I would inherit the factory and I really would love to transform into a positive thing rather than how I feel it is right now.

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marjanzitnik

Hi there! What are your prices for the materials? I am defining prices at the moment and thought about something like this:

1 kg shredded plastic (€10)
1 meter of 5x3 beam equals 1kg (€15)
60x60 sheet 12mm (2,5kg) - €60

(edited)

If anyone else could share their prices I would be really grateful!

mikeveres

Is under developing... a few months and its on the bazar

Is it for a particular type of 3D printer? Or can fit with any?

Robertolson

I am asking because my family own a little factory with inyection machines, we do recycle plastic bags that came from a mango facility (they use it for transporting them) and use it to make other products, but still I want to be able to make use of the mangos and coconuts residues that i have available to make some bioplastic if anyone point me in a direction would be great or if it's even posible

Making bioplastics from raw material seems a bit beyond most of us here. I was talking with someone earlier this week who has been experimenting with bio fillers in PLA, and knew someone in North Dakota who was using farm waste plant fibers as a filler in PLA. So there are probably some ways to repurpose those agricultural byproducts even without full-on chemical engineering into monomers and polymers.

marjanzitnik

If anyone else could share their prices I would be really grateful!

A person I spoke with a couple days ago who runs an industrial injection molding facility tossed out $1 per pound as a ballpark assumption for the cost of recycled plastic resin pellets. In the United States, I would take that to be the sort of asymptote on the pricing graph, which assumes industrial processing and scale (like, if you were generating full pallets or truckloads of pellets ready for standard industrial injection molding, that's your competition). In reality, our cottage scale collection/cleaning/sorting/shredding is nowhere near that in terms of prices we could offer without losing our shirt. But the market we look for is not people buying 100 or 1000 or 10000 kg at a time; and where the industrial market sees any color as a downside that easily halves the value of any plastic, it's a selling point for all of us in Precious Plastic. So we need to look at sources of hobbyist quantities of thermoplastic resins (things like 500g to 1kg pacakges sold for the hobbyist desktop injection molder) and figure out what sort of premium we can charge for being recycled material, and particularly factor in the costs of shipping if it's not a local sale.

@JohnNephew got it, thanks so much for the explanation on a larger scale. Much clearer now. I am still curious if any of the manufacturers here (that produce up to 500kg/month) would share their pricelist, at least estimates for the raw materials.

JohnNephew

Making bioplastics from raw material seems a bit beyond most of us here. I was talking with someone earlier this week who has been experimenting with bio fillers in PLA, and knew someone in North Dakota who was using farm waste plant fibers as a filler in PLA. So there are probably some ways to repurpose those agricultural byproducts even without full-on chemical engineering into monomers and polymers.

Is there a way i can be in contact with him? Or even if he is willing to talk to me? Cheers!

Robertolson

Is there a way i can be in contact with him? Or even if he is willing to talk to me? Cheers!

This seems to be an article about the guy in North Dakota and his company c2Renew: https://letstalkhemp.com/hemp-bioplastic-research/

Hemp Bioplastic Research Awaits Stable Supply Chain, Economic Feasi...

Prototype dog throwing toys, created by Fargo, ND-based c2Renew, are made with hemp-based bioplastics. Photo: Chad Ulven By Jean Lotus From guitar picks, to 3D printing filament, to plastic dog throwing disks, prototype products made from hemp are showing the world the potential of industrial hemp in bioplastics. Scientists like Chad Ulven, a p...

Robertolson

Is there a way i can be in contact with him? Or even if he is willing to talk to me? Cheers!

And here is the company website: https://www.c2renew.com/

Biocomposite | Fargo, ND | c2renew

c2renew inc. is a material designer and custom compounder. we utilize proprietary biocomposite formulations, to meet a range of customer specifications.

10:47 PM

"coffee mugs made of coffee, sunglasses made of beer, guitar picks made of hemp, if you can think it we can make it." -- seems like they would be people likely to have an idea to make bioplastics from mango/coconut waste. Mmm. Mango. Now I'm hungry for some dried mango.

Pharaoh11

Is it for a particular type of 3D printer? Or can fit with any?

I designed it on a universal base

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Robertolson

Anyone has any information on how to do bio Plastics from mangos? Or coconuts? Or point me where should I should look for it? Thanks in advance!

#archived-beyond-plastic is where most of the chatting is for this topic. There's lots of information about this sort of thing online but I don't know a single person who's really dived deep into this (yet)

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

#archived-beyond-plastic is where most of the chatting is for this topic. There's lots of information about this sort of thing online but I don't know a single person who's really dived deep into this (yet)

I'll try and dive into it and let you know what I find.

JohnNephew

"coffee mugs made of coffee, sunglasses made of beer, guitar picks made of hemp, if you can think it we can make it." -- seems like they would be people likely to have an idea to make bioplastics from mango/coconut waste. Mmm. Mango. Now I'm hungry for some dried mango.

I just sent an email to the CEO hope he answers

I'll keep you posted. And I am more of a fresh mango

Robertolson

I just sent an email to the CEO hope he answers

I'll keep you posted. And I am more of a fresh mango

(I thought we had some dried mangoes stashed away for snacking, but no! my wife ate them all! And the fresh mangoes were all gone too. I'll happily eat fresh, dried, or frozen!)

Hey! I am doing a research about precious plastic and I am looking for workspaces inside universities. Can anyone share with me those projects please? Thank you

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Hi there! Has anyone worked or experimented with bio-resin here before as an alternative to conventional plastics?

mikeveres

anyone intersted on a 3d printing head wich prints recycled plastic?

Yes please. I want to make a large format trash printer for planters and small furniture

Hello, how i can sorted HDPE from PP regrind plastic caps?

You can differentiate by floating in a blend of alcohol and water. PP has a density 90% of water; PE i believe is 94 to 97%. So in the right alcohol dilution LDPE and HDPE will sink while PP floats.

Thank you John!

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Hello. Had a safety question about plastic...how dangerous is it to burn/melt it? I washed something made of polyester, polypropylene and polyurethane (a mattress protector) in my washer/dryer machine yesterday. It got very hot in the machine and there was a strong, unpleasant plastic smell so I threw it away. Is the machine safe to use still or will it be contaminated? Thanks

Also a lot of steam came out when I opened the door, unfortunately I would have breathed some of this in directly, along with the bad plastic smell. Just hope the washing machine/dryer unit is still safe to use, but I will have to change it if not

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Has anyone conducted an energy analysis on creating plastic sheets? I looked through the how-to of the PP community section but there isn't any research I could find.

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12:08 AM

Also microplastic research. Is there a location where research on PP is shared?

hello my name is Anthony I am from Gabon

and I would like to know how to proceed to manufacture from an oven, an electric oven that can contain large molds, such as those of stools for example. THANKS

Hello, does anyone use plastic caps after recycling PET bottles? Because the plugs are HDPE and PP, how to use that material?

Hello am from Nigeria. I recycling plastic. What are d process here

Hi i'm from the netherlands and have a question about heating PP. When heating PP up to 170 degrees in an extruder or electric oven, is it still safe? Or does it give toxic fumes? And is it better to use an air filter and an air extractor? I work with students in a workspace

Hi guys! I will use a 5HP 75rpm three phase motor for my extruder, my question then is : Will I need a frequency variator to control motor's revolutions? Thanks!

Cristian Castro

Hi guys! I will use a 5HP 75rpm three phase motor for my extruder, my question then is : Will I need a frequency variator to control motor's revolutions? Thanks!

i don't think you absolutely need to have control of the motor's speed, if you want to though a vfd could do the job. There is the "shredder-dev" discord channel also to ask shredder elated questions.

Hey y'all, does anyone know if fumes are produced by heating the plastic for any of the machines? I didn't see anything on the PP webiste

yeah fumes are always produced, you can't really avoid it. The question is rather how much fumes and how unhealthy they are

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

yeah fumes are always produced, you can't really avoid it. The question is rather how much fumes and how unhealthy they are

As long as you have a respirator you should be safe and do it outside

Yeah I mean you can't really avoid producing fumes but you can absolutely avoid to breathe them in xD

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

Yeah I mean you can't really avoid producing fumes but you can absolutely avoid to breathe them in xD

It’s depends on the plastic

2:37 AM

As well

2:37 AM

They are not all the same

2:37 AM

I hate how people assume all plastic is the same when it’s not

fair enough but at least the usual ones that are processed here create fumes when melted as far as I am aware

Mr. Torrence

Hey y'all, does anyone know if fumes are produced by heating the plastic for any of the machines? I didn't see anything on the PP webiste

@jeroen thoonen Here is the information you're looking for https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/safety

https://youtu.be/pQgxiQAMTTo

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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I don't get why the old forum was junked in favor of Discord- instead of having information on specific topics aggregating in easy to reference, discrete threads, we now have only gross categories with everything being poured in, swirled around, and flushed down stream. How is anyone supposed to use this as a learning, research, or reference tool?

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Christopher - Unmake Plastic

I don't get why the old forum was junked in favor of Discord- instead of having information on specific topics aggregating in easy to reference, discrete threads, we now have only gross categories with everything being poured in, swirled around, and flushed down stream. How is anyone supposed to use this as a learning, research, or reference tool?

i agree that not having a forum with topics is problematic. This has been mentioned quite some times in the past as well by more people. If i remember correctly the reason why the forum has ceased is because of reported difficulty in maintenance.

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JohnNephew

A person I spoke with a couple days ago who runs an industrial injection molding facility tossed out $1 per pound as a ballpark assumption for the cost of recycled plastic resin pellets. In the United States, I would take that to be the sort of asymptote on the pricing graph, which assumes industrial processing and scale (like, if you were generating full pallets or truckloads of pellets ready for standard industrial injection molding, that's your competition). In reality, our cottage scale collection/cleaning/sorting/shredding is nowhere near that in terms of prices we could offer without losing our shirt. But the market we look for is not people buying 100 or 1000 or 10000 kg at a time; and where the industrial market sees any color as a downside that easily halves the value of any plastic, it's a selling point for all of us in Precious Plastic. So we need to look at sources of hobbyist quantities of thermoplastic resins (things like 500g to 1kg pacakges sold for the hobbyist desktop injection molder) and figure out what sort of premium we can charge for being recycled material, and particularly factor in the costs of shipping if it's not a local sale.

I pay 37 philippine pesos for HDPE injection grade grey and black color. 30.5 centsUSD per pound.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

I don't get why the old forum was junked in favor of Discord- instead of having information on specific topics aggregating in easy to reference, discrete threads, we now have only gross categories with everything being poured in, swirled around, and flushed down stream. How is anyone supposed to use this as a learning, research, or reference tool?

i agree, the forum was great. Unfortunately a certain troll came in and ruined it.

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7:48 AM

I am getting engineering students coming in the shop wanting to buy plastic for their thesis. However I have serious doubts as to how one can do a entire college engineering thesis project with 1-3 kilos of shredded plastic. It is kind of crazy, they come in the shop, asking for a kilo of plastic, then they trying to go all discount discount on me. They will happily waste 10 dollars on McDonalds and then ask a discount on a 2 dollar order.

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Hi! Just curious, who here has been able to use these machines and been able to create a successful business and/ or non-profit? (edited)

YouTube actually shows some people who have successfully built large businesses around this idea.

Chelsea

Hi! Just curious, who here has been able to use these machines and been able to create a successful business and/ or non-profit? (edited)

all my daily bread has come from Precious Plastic machine building and molding for 5 years. I employ 3 people besides myself.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

I don't get why the old forum was junked in favor of Discord- instead of having information on specific topics aggregating in easy to reference, discrete threads, we now have only gross categories with everything being poured in, swirled around, and flushed down stream. How is anyone supposed to use this as a learning, research, or reference tool?

I miss the forum but at the same time I don't. A majority of questions people ask on here can be found on the precious plastic website. For learning, research, and references again you can use the website. Http://community.preciousplastic.com Just as forums are not for everyone, discord is the same. But I do point out to people that if you're interested in making Precious Plastic better, there's nothing stopping you from creating a forum or pursuit an idea for making things better.

Chelsea

Hi! Just curious, who here has been able to use these machines and been able to create a successful business and/ or non-profit? (edited)

I'm always curious how this is done in other countries. There's several workspaces in Indonesia that are doing well and are sticking around without receiving grants or other "charity" monies. I know in other countries workspaces might rely on donations and grants, it depends on your business model.

Hi precious plastic community

Im a member of Transfolab BCN coworking, we are building up a plastic press machine as there we have almost all of components, we just miss up the 32A Circuit Breaker Relay as that one we see in the video. Is there someone could give any advices where could I buy it? it has to be the same one or could be different then?

12:10 PM

is this one I was mentioned

Is there a specific thread where people discuss plastic waste issues? Most channels seem laser focused on other things and im a total noob. Also, this issue might not even be an issue or it might be well discussed with off the shelf answers.

Just to expand on what I see as the issue. I was out for a walk in a managed forest and found dozens of plastic protection wrappers put in to protect newly planted trees. I have googled the issue and see there are companies who make biodegradable options but in the UK the Woodland Trust have only recently gone 100% for this option (https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/about-us/what-we-do/research-and-evidence/plastic-tree-guards/). I expect them to be at the forefront and others not to be so progressive. But given the huge tree planting goals this is going to be a lot of plastic left to litter the countryside. The question is, what can/could be done with these old plastic protection wrappers? Is the nature of what they are used for and how they are designed going to make it inherently difficult to recycle?

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hello aliii the project kamp related discussions are in the channel #kamp-chat you can check the "support us" section in the project kamp website: https://projectkamp.com/support.html as far as i know you can join by "donating your work force" the page in the earlier link shows skills wanted and ways to apply

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as an example

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i don't know if they take applications mid season though

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you might want to ask bart for further details

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hi guys, where can i find the dimensions for the extruder, the first simple extruder?

Dear guys, I made a post in How to on precious plastic website but it is still awaiting moderation, when it will be published ?

Hello, im new here, german guy, wanted to get in touch after i found the youtube channel. Nice to meet you all and everything. Im setting base on tenerife next month and in general looking for a Land. I got interested why first option was Portugal and 2nd slovenia. What made you not consider spain? Is Portugal easier building laws e.g.? Will look around these days here more. Currently very busy moving. Have a good day all.

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Fatih

what the hell is that link spam?

i did it ones

2rds

hi guys, where can i find the dimensions for the extruder, the first simple extruder?

have you downloaded the extrusion kit files yet? everything should be there.

ZodaChem

Dear guys, I made a post in How to on precious plastic website but it is still awaiting moderation, when it will be published ?

Should be soon1

Ngalim Franklin Njaiwo

Green greetings, please i need advice in building a Single shaft shredder. I will appreciate anyone who has used the shredder help me with some advice

It's better to ask machine questions in the #archived-machines channel

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I miss the forum but at the same time I don't. A majority of questions people ask on here can be found on the precious plastic website. For learning, research, and references again you can use the website. Http://community.preciousplastic.com Just as forums are not for everyone, discord is the same. But I do point out to people that if you're interested in making Precious Plastic better, there's nothing stopping you from creating a forum or pursuit an idea for making things better.

I was wonder where the wheel on the bus went; while reinventing the wheel would undoubtedly be of benefit, wheel building is an occupation unto itself, and not trivial. What I hoped for was some insight in how this truncated tool might serve the same purpose as the missing tool set, or lacking that, an explanation of how we got from having a bus to a clown car. Of course, were this a forum, there would already be several threads speaking to this very issue- demonstrating exactly what a waste of human capital Discord's deficiencies represent. As you must know, the resources at the community page indicated represent a cross section of development- a starting point, not an interactive group sourced progression; the value of that resource is not in contest with- or a replacement for -dynamic exchange and building of ideas. (edited)

Vic

Hi everyone! I just watched the One Army video on the Mercedes 609 conversion and Dave mentions in the video that he got it from a german government sale. Does anyone have extra information on where to find those? The image from the website with 10 similar vans is exactly what I am looking for !

Hi Vic, did you find the location for buying the van in the end?

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

I was wonder where the wheel on the bus went; while reinventing the wheel would undoubtedly be of benefit, wheel building is an occupation unto itself, and not trivial. What I hoped for was some insight in how this truncated tool might serve the same purpose as the missing tool set, or lacking that, an explanation of how we got from having a bus to a clown car. Of course, were this a forum, there would already be several threads speaking to this very issue- demonstrating exactly what a waste of human capital Discord's deficiencies represent. As you must know, the resources at the community page indicated represent a cross section of development- a starting point, not an interactive group sourced progression; the value of that resource is not in contest with- or a replacement for -dynamic exchange and building of ideas. (edited)

Maybe a better question to ask is, how would a forum make things better? They're not without their own problems too.

Hi everyone, does anybody know where you can order recycled plastic sheets to Belgium?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Maybe a better question to ask is, how would a forum make things better? They're not without their own problems too.

Ben, I've already been explicit, several times, in what is lacking with this tool, what advantages a forum has- here is a most recent example "...were this a forum, there would already be several threads speaking to this very issue- demonstrating exactly what a waste of human capital Discord's deficiencies represent." No small irony that it would have been far easier for you to reflect on those other answers to your question that I already gave were this a regular forum. Yes, everything possesses liabilities- but it doesn't matter that a mule takes up so much more space than a cat when your ambition is to plow a field; cats are useful, too- but not for many of the same things. (edited)

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I totally agree. It's a shame that the old forum was broken for so long and until today I don't know how to access the information that I was trying to lookup some years ago when forum was out of order. A forum is a much better way to search for questions that may have been answered once or even multiple times. And for every question that comes up very often, sticky threads or FAQs and so on could be generated. But Discord is just a ton of messages spreaded over several topics/questions and search functionality is not great.

9:50 AM

After forum was dead for so long, I have no clue if it is still possible to reactive it and get enough people using it, but it also would not hurt to give it a try I think. Apart from that it would be nice to have access to the old forum to lookup old information that still might be relevant

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️ Would be good to have this conversations in this topic. Which ironically uses the Discord "Forums" feature

https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/1086332488693076058/1086332488693076058 (edited)

Dave do you guys regularly check emails? I sent an email a few days ago and I'm wondering if it got trough

Hello people, does anyone know where I can buy the Precious Plastic Powersockets? I cant find them anywhere in the bazar. https://preciousplastic.com/images/plug.jpg

Hey! I cant find any business email or any form to contact the owners of the "Project Kamp". Can someone help me?

@fipo probly dm davehakkens or someone els on the Team section on the right

Theres an email on the website to contact them

When is Project Kamp likely to break for winter this year? I'd like to come stay a couple months and pitch in, but need to plan around various other stuff...

hi there

does someone knows how many kilos of plastic do I need more or less to make a 1x1m plastic sheet of 1cm thickness?

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On a 1x1m sheet, you can approximate at 1kg/mm of the thickness. So 10kg for you.

3:05 PM

For other shape/dimension, calculate the volume and multiply by the volumetric mass of the plastic you are using, then add 5 to 10% for the overflow.

Yann

For other shape/dimension, calculate the volume and multiply by the volumetric mass of the plastic you are using, then add 5 to 10% for the overflow.

thanks!

transfolabbcn

Im a member of Transfolab BCN coworking, we are building up a plastic press machine as there we have almost all of components, we just miss up the 32A Circuit Breaker Relay as that one we see in the video. Is there someone could give any advices where could I buy it? it has to be the same one or could be different then?

Normally it is not brand exclusive. However, cheap brand new ones are exactly that, cheap throw aways. May be will last a month when running everyday. See if you get spare contacts for the relay you are buying. That is usually more expensive but worth if you are being serious about business. Word of advice, some brands change the location of tje contact points, so it is always a good idea not to cut cables to exact centimeter just to look nice, but instead leave cables longer in case you need to reconfigure and tuck excess in cable conduit. What you need to know is the coil voltage, how many auxiliary contacts and if these are normally open and normally closed types. I did not watch the video. So not sure if it uses auxiliary contacts, but those are nice for handling signals like lamps also. You need to know if they are rail mounted, or just screw mounted, most can be railmounted which makes mounting and replacing easier. If you have little knowledge of electricity, dont mess with it. Ask someone for help. Unlike mechanics where you see a faulty part, electricity is about knowledge and knowing what you are doing before powering something up. Those are rather simple circuits tough. But enough to get someone killed if wired poorly. (edited)

Hello People. Anyone being using a Sheet Press? My question is, how thick can a sheet be? For large volume object, should you always go with an industrial extruder? Thank you for your time and knowledge. Peace.

“There is a model on YouTube for a diy extruder that would make do. I just found it myself. I’ll send you the link. I’m still working on building a shredder,

6:52 PM

https://youtu.be/hxfle6EV6O4

HOW I DO

How to Start a Plastic Recycling Manufacturing Business

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Any ideas on how to deal with static electricity after shredding plastics?

skibum_98

Any ideas on how to deal with static electricity after shredding plastics?

I have no definite answer. But how dry is your place/plastic? In coffee grinding a simple trick is to mist the beans before milling. Might work as well for plastic. (edited)

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https://www.humblebundle.com/books/survive-everything-handbooks-skyhorse-books A humble bundle relevant to this community I'd say :)

Humble Book Bundle: Survive Everything Handbooks by Skyhorse

We’ve bundled a massive collection of survival books from Skyhorse Publishing all about preparing you to thrive in the wild or in the face of disaster.

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skibum_98

Any ideas on how to deal with static electricity after shredding plastics?

spray em with some mist !

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@👮Moderator

mods these bots usually join and do not pick any roles, making it so you can't send any messages if you don't pic at least one role will be a good way to prevent such bot messages altogether

5:14 PM

saving you time and energy of manually removing the mess after they're sent (edited)

Rodolfo Vieira

@👮Moderator

Where would be the best room to post FAQ related Questions?

Omega1080

Where would be the best room to post FAQ related Questions?

Sadly, this place's response to "frequently asked questions" is to rebuild the wheel every time there is a need; it's like a box full of tangled power cords: unless the cord you need was just thrown on top, it quickly becomes not reasonably accessible. (edited)

hello everyone

hello (edited)

Love the concept of Project Kamp!

7:22 PM

What is the overall goal?

7:23 PM

a place where people live in harmony and help build the community?

I was curious about what rules are put in place to keep everyone getting along. I imagine that there's some basic stuff like "Don't take each other's bag of chips but I am interested to see how you keep a positive group cohesion without adding too much that it wouldn't feel like a free place.

it was asked in the YT comments and featured in one of the videos

8:25 PM

and answered by dave but unfortunately i don't remember which video it was (edited)

@16xyeah basically a community that all works together and is sustainable as possible. they also want to help the locals out and generally improve the area around the land as well!

Nice new PK video! As a communications specialist for a big telecom company i am interested in seeing what i can do for your community. Feel free to send me a private msg. (edited)

I have a question about the pro extruder. Can it handle a mixture of 2/3 sand 1/3 plastic? I'm worried it will wear out the screw very fast (edited)

Hello. Just discovered Precious Plastics. I am reading up on the starter kts and all that. I feel like this is only for people that want to literally open up a workshop and a business, spending tens of thousands of dollars (nothing wrong with that all!). But I am wondering if there are any options for just a guy like myself who wants to do smaller scale stuff as a hobby in my home? Would love to be able to turn my plastic bottles into simple objects I can find a use for. Even if those simple objects are as simple as blocks and sheets.

drewyorker

Hello. Just discovered Precious Plastics. I am reading up on the starter kts and all that. I feel like this is only for people that want to literally open up a workshop and a business, spending tens of thousands of dollars (nothing wrong with that all!). But I am wondering if there are any options for just a guy like myself who wants to do smaller scale stuff as a hobby in my home? Would love to be able to turn my plastic bottles into simple objects I can find a use for. Even if those simple objects are as simple as blocks and sheets.

Pet bottle extruder and/or thermo press might be cheap options for you

drewyorker

Hello. Just discovered Precious Plastics. I am reading up on the starter kts and all that. I feel like this is only for people that want to literally open up a workshop and a business, spending tens of thousands of dollars (nothing wrong with that all!). But I am wondering if there are any options for just a guy like myself who wants to do smaller scale stuff as a hobby in my home? Would love to be able to turn my plastic bottles into simple objects I can find a use for. Even if those simple objects are as simple as blocks and sheets.

For small sheets, a cheap t-shirt press from Amazon can work pretty well. We bought one for under $200.

drewyorker

Hello. Just discovered Precious Plastics. I am reading up on the starter kts and all that. I feel like this is only for people that want to literally open up a workshop and a business, spending tens of thousands of dollars (nothing wrong with that all!). But I am wondering if there are any options for just a guy like myself who wants to do smaller scale stuff as a hobby in my home? Would love to be able to turn my plastic bottles into simple objects I can find a use for. Even if those simple objects are as simple as blocks and sheets.

I suggest checking out the Brothers Make channel, and see them making things with panini press and a bottle jack press. They have a video about making pen blanks for turning that is a good inspiration for small blocks.

This sounds like something we could use a more organised resource for. BoBoYork can't be the only one lacking something of that scale in their environment

5:41 PM

I, for one, would be interested in that.

@DataWorm (PP Berlin) @JohnNephew - Thank you both I am going to look into these things when home from work For years I have always thought to myself how I wish I could melt down all my plastic stuff I don't need into raw material that can be used for other purposes. Any time I attempted to research this I was met with information deterring me from doing it, going on about how melting down plastic is very dangerous. (I know that it is) Now I learn about PP and all these other ways I can convert plastic waste to raw material. I'm all excited. If I could start, at least for now, with just sheets and blocks, that'd be a big step forward in my journey. (edited)

6:09 PM

What would be REALLY great is if I could make thick sheets than can be used for things like shelves.

for thick sheets you rather need a (large) oven or a sheet press. Did you already check if there is an existing workspace in your area?!

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

for thick sheets you rather need a (large) oven or a sheet press. Did you already check if there is an existing workspace in your area?!

I have not! Where do i do this?

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

DataWorm (PP Berlin)

This is by me but I'm not really sure what this is: https://community.preciousplastic.com/u/petenyc

https://www.patreon.com/one_army

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

11:58 PM

Other than that there is a "community point" I messaged them about joining?

11:58 PM

Let's see if anything come of that

Yeah that community point (PP NYC), and the workspaces Formation BX and MakeHaven look like good starting points

yo

Hello, I'm trying to figure out what is the noise level of the shredder? Does anyone know?

Hey, just out of curiosity what’s the region you guys are located in, looking to buy some land myself at some point and I really like your area

Project Kamp?

MrDefected

Hey, just out of curiosity what’s the region you guys are located in, looking to buy some land myself at some point and I really like your area

Project Kamp is in Portugal. If thats what you are asking for.

northern Portugal, even marked on google maps if you want the exact location

Exia

northern Portugal, even marked on google maps if you want the exact location

Oh cool thanks wasn’t aware it was on Google maps

MrDefected

Hey, just out of curiosity what’s the region you guys are located in, looking to buy some land myself at some point and I really like your area

It's on Google maps

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Is there a link to the patreon anywhere?

Fatih

https://www.patreon.com/one_army

Thanks!

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Hey everyone. Where can I find some examples of what is realistically possible for to make from recycles plastic? I would like to convert recycles plastic into simple shapes like flat sheets that would mimic the dimensions of lumber you might find in a lumber store. IS this realistic or not really?

I'm trying do do something like this but on a much... MUCH... smaller scale: https://www.polywood.com/get-inspired/genuine-stories/recycling.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6cKiBhD5ARIsAKXUdybUJexpZ3HFFECmTrS9Lq2Nl_bT0UZ0xEswAfAlrKbX292OMUqHkrcaAr3uEALw_wcB

Making Lumber from Recycled Plastic - POLYWOOD®

Today, POLYWOOD recycles an average of 400,000 landfill-bound and ocean-bound plastic containers every day. Learn more about how our lumber is made.

3:52 AM

Like in my garage, safely.

drewyorker

Hey everyone. Where can I find some examples of what is realistically possible for to make from recycles plastic? I would like to convert recycles plastic into simple shapes like flat sheets that would mimic the dimensions of lumber you might find in a lumber store. IS this realistic or not really?

https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/products/ here you can see some examples of what other recyclers make and sell. Navigate also around the precious plastic website to see more..

Products

drewyorker

Hey everyone. Where can I find some examples of what is realistically possible for to make from recycles plastic? I would like to convert recycles plastic into simple shapes like flat sheets that would mimic the dimensions of lumber you might find in a lumber store. IS this realistic or not really?

@drewyorker check out the whole precious plastic side of this discord server. This should be a link to plastic lumber produced by Precious Plastic Philippines : https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/603882168934203412/1088737713286565931

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

@drewyorker check out the whole precious plastic side of this discord server. This should be a link to plastic lumber produced by Precious Plastic Philippines : https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/603882168934203412/1088737713286565931

Oh shoot I just discovered roles and unlocking the other chats!

2:08 PM

Thanks! - But your link still says no access

spiros nik

https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/products/ here you can see some examples of what other recyclers make and sell. Navigate also around the precious plastic website to see more..

Thank you!

drewyorker

Oh shoot I just discovered roles and unlocking the other chats!

Can you access the #archived-showcase channel?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Can you access the #archived-showcase channel?

I can't

Let me try added every role

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Can you access the #archived-showcase channel?

I have every role and still can't access this

drewyorker

I can't

Let me try added every role

Ah I see

2:10 PM

Go here #👋start-here

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Go here #👋start-here

Got it now! Thank you!

There you go!

2:11 PM

Enjoy

Hey everyone! Due to lack of time, I won't be able to build the big press, however I got plenty of it's parts/electronics already; 50~ (need to count them again) 300w heating cartridges, PID controllers with probes, relays, 100m heatresistant cabling etc Basically most of the electronics to get the press going, which I would love to sell someone for a very kind price. Please @ me or write me directly and we I can send pics of everything

KayJansen

Hey everyone! Due to lack of time, I won't be able to build the big press, however I got plenty of it's parts/electronics already; 50~ (need to count them again) 300w heating cartridges, PID controllers with probes, relays, 100m heatresistant cabling etc Basically most of the electronics to get the press going, which I would love to sell someone for a very kind price. Please @ me or write me directly and we I can send pics of everything

Hey Kay, please let us know where you're located. It makes a huge difference

@Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug hi! Yes ofcourse, sorry! I'm based in Austria and the Netherlands

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https://www.wired.com/story/yet-another-problem-with-recycling-it-spews-microplastics/

Yet Another Problem With Recycling: It Spews Microplastics

Recycling was already a mess. Now a study finds that one facility may emit 3 million pounds of microplastics a year.

9:18 PM

Ultimately why I stopped recycling with my precious plastic set up (V2 shredded and extruder pro). We are amateurs perhaps creating a bigger problem, perhaps we need to turn our efforts to a plastic free economy rather than solving it with low tech means.

itsgeorge

Ultimately why I stopped recycling with my precious plastic set up (V2 shredded and extruder pro). We are amateurs perhaps creating a bigger problem, perhaps we need to turn our efforts to a plastic free economy rather than solving it with low tech means.

I think the key thing to note is that most plastics do not get recycled at all. It's just saying the ones which do create microplastic pollution, not comparing that to the ones which don't. Obviously we need to stop making so much plastic to begin with, but we also want to make sure the plastic which has already been made does not make it into the environment, and there's a better chance of that when it's getting properly recycled versus when it winds up in a landfill.

2:41 AM

And when I say most plastics do not get recycled at all, I mean most plastics sent in for recycling do not get recycled at all. (edited)

halo

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2:08 PM

someone can tell me how to make this curve of the plate?

Heyho.. just discovered your chanel project kamp.. I binched watch it since a few hours

im on #23 rright now. So awesome what you guys are doing

itsgeorge

Ultimately why I stopped recycling with my precious plastic set up (V2 shredded and extruder pro). We are amateurs perhaps creating a bigger problem, perhaps we need to turn our efforts to a plastic free economy rather than solving it with low tech means.

You stopped recycling using your PP set up. So how do you recycle now? Just another method that also produces microplastics in the end, and on top of that, may not end up getting recycled at all? Is this reason enough to stop recycling though? A plastic free economy is just simply not realistic. Even if you as an individual achieved a plastic free life, it is a tall order to get the whole of society on board. While Recycling may not be perfect, isn't it still better than not recycling?

itsgeorge

Ultimately why I stopped recycling with my precious plastic set up (V2 shredded and extruder pro). We are amateurs perhaps creating a bigger problem, perhaps we need to turn our efforts to a plastic free economy rather than solving it with low tech means.

I mostly agree with what you're saying. If the transition were easy, it would have already been done.

Hello everyone, for some reason I can't find a file to download on the website "Beyond Plastic", tell me where I can download it. After all, the website says that it can be downloaded for free ?

aLEXXX

Hello everyone, for some reason I can't find a file to download on the website "Beyond Plastic", tell me where I can download it. After all, the website says that it can be downloaded for free ?

What file are you looking for?

The emojis on the region chats are so funny

Hello everyone!!! I am a freelance video editor and i have in mind to get started with this job in 1 month maximum, i search people for collaborations and brcause i am a "newbie" in sense i do not have big projects ahead my shoulder i garantee 20 days free for my work. After this 20 days if i am good for the job i like to continue with you. If you are intersted contact me in DM!!

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

What file are you looking for?

I heard in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2aRrWCxaX4&list=PLtYgsstkMPuXdOmvoUYAc0oDoFlk_Ztsp&index=27 that there are files to download for the "Beyond Plastic" project. Files in order to find drawings of the press machine and other, but after looking through the entire site I found nothing.

aLEXXX

I heard in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2aRrWCxaX4&list=PLtYgsstkMPuXdOmvoUYAc0oDoFlk_Ztsp&index=27 that there are files to download for the "Beyond Plastic" project. Files in order to find drawings of the press machine and other, but after looking through the entire site I found nothing.

https://github.com/ONEARMY/precious-plastic-kit/tree/master/8.%20Research/1.%20Beyond%20Plastic

precious-plastic-kit/8. Research/1. Beyond Plastic at master · ONEA...

Precious Plastic Downloadpack. Contribute to ONEARMY/precious-plastic-kit development by creating an account on GitHub.

12:03 AM

I'm not sure if this is included with any of the starterkits, but you can see the files here.

12:06 AM

Also if you're going to ask about beyond plastic, you should go to the proper channel. #archived-beyond-plastic If beyond plastic isn't showing up, you need to go to #👋start-here first and read.

Reposting for visibility... Plasticrete workshop Saturday May 20th 31 Church Ave Brooklyn Checkout this Meetup with Brooklyn Seasteading: https://meetu.ps/e/M5tPh/slZh/i Not a precious project per se. But reutilization of plastic waste nonetheless.

Seasteading and plasticrete workshop, Sat, May 20, 2023, 3:00 PM ...

Plasticrete Global HQ hosting a workshop on creating robust archival vibrant and verdant floating ecosystems from plastic film and bag waste from the simple process of

smarterthantheaveragebear

Reposting for visibility... Plasticrete workshop Saturday May 20th 31 Church Ave Brooklyn Checkout this Meetup with Brooklyn Seasteading: https://meetu.ps/e/M5tPh/slZh/i Not a precious project per se. But reutilization of plastic waste nonetheless.

Huge no no if you ask me because of the microplastics coming into nature again

Hi, all I wanted to have a survey done for our Target group to understand their understanding towards recycle plastic products and also understand the market whether they want Recycled products. Below is the sample of the survey questions. How often do you use plastic products in your daily life? a. Very frequently b. Occasionally c. Rarely d. Never How aware are you of the impact of plastic waste on the environment? a. Very aware b. Somewhat aware c. Not very aware d. Not at all aware What are your thoughts on using plastic products that have been recycled? a. I always try to use recycled plastic products to help the environment. b. I am open to using recycled plastic products if they are easily available and affordable. c. I prefer to use non-plastic products instead of recycled plastic products. d. I am not sure. What factors influence your decision to use recycled plastic products? a. Environmental benefits b. Cost savings c. Availability d. Other (please specify) Have you ever used a recycled plastic product? a. Yes b. No If you answered "yes" to the previous question, please specify the recycled plastic product you used. If you haven't used a recycled plastic product, what is stopping you from doing so? a. Lack of awareness b. Lack of availability c. Higher cost d. Other (please specify) How important is it to you that the recycled plastic products you use are of similar quality to non-recycled plastic products? a. Very important b. Somewhat important c. Not very important d. Not at all important Would you be willing to pay a premium for recycled plastic products that are of similar quality to non-recycled plastic products? a. Yes b. No How likely are you to recommend recycled plastic products to your friends and family? a. Very likely b. Somewhat likely c. Not very likely d. Not at all likely

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abhie1485😎

Hi, all I wanted to have a survey done for our Target group to understand their understanding towards recycle plastic products and also understand the market whether they want Recycled products. Below is the sample of the survey questions. How often do you use plastic products in your daily life? a. Very frequently b. Occasionally c. Rarely d. Never How aware are you of the impact of plastic waste on the environment? a. Very aware b. Somewhat aware c. Not very aware d. Not at all aware What are your thoughts on using plastic products that have been recycled? a. I always try to use recycled plastic products to help the environment. b. I am open to using recycled plastic products if they are easily available and affordable. c. I prefer to use non-plastic products instead of recycled plastic products. d. I am not sure. What factors influence your decision to use recycled plastic products? a. Environmental benefits b. Cost savings c. Availability d. Other (please specify) Have you ever used a recycled plastic product? a. Yes b. No If you answered "yes" to the previous question, please specify the recycled plastic product you used. If you haven't used a recycled plastic product, what is stopping you from doing so? a. Lack of awareness b. Lack of availability c. Higher cost d. Other (please specify) How important is it to you that the recycled plastic products you use are of similar quality to non-recycled plastic products? a. Very important b. Somewhat important c. Not very important d. Not at all important Would you be willing to pay a premium for recycled plastic products that are of similar quality to non-recycled plastic products? a. Yes b. No How likely are you to recommend recycled plastic products to your friends and family? a. Very likely b. Somewhat likely c. Not very likely d. Not at all likely

Looks good but you might want to ask what sort of products your target market wants.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Looks good but you might want to ask what sort of products your target market wants.

Sure, I'll put those questions as well

Individuals with the same political affiliations have less in common than you think. In the same way, individuals with different political affiliations have more in common than you think. Social classifiers we rely upon are largely inaccurate and at best poor approximations.

hey there... we are a global supplier of lldpe stretch film and located in halle/schkopau (near leipzig). we want to expand our efforts in close loop production and sustainable plastic products. maybe we are able to collaborate with precious plastic initiative and find a way to enhance awareness and public discourse about this important topic. let me know who i can contact to move this request further... thanks for everything you do. stefan ps: is there a local community in leipzig/halle?

itsgeorge

Ultimately why I stopped recycling with my precious plastic set up (V2 shredded and extruder pro). We are amateurs perhaps creating a bigger problem, perhaps we need to turn our efforts to a plastic free economy rather than solving it with low tech means.

Study just came out and was not yet peer reviewed. And it is one facility in UK.

10:55 AM

Has anybody worked with these guys? https://www.cirplus.com/en/about-us Are they reinventing the wheel that was created with the bazaar? Or is it worth letting ourselves known to them?

cirplus - about us

Our team and technical partners have extensive experience in the manufacturing, recycling and trading of thermoplastics. Our vision: make plastics 100% circular.

'Are they reinventing the wheel that was created with the bazaar? ' - The 'Bazar' itself didn't invent anything. It's a very basic application that doesn't allow for much customization nor it actually serves real-world needs. It could be a considered a directory to find others, at best. Besides, plastic related trade, stock or machinery usually doesn't rely on such 'platforms'.

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amunizp

Study just came out and was not yet peer reviewed. And it is one facility in UK.

To facilitate maker / small scale recyclers, ... https://github.com/vercel/commerce looks promising. Ideally, new instances per region could be setup within minutes.

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Hey guys I’m wondering where I can get the machines to do plastic recycling

turtle6089

Hey guys I’m wondering where I can get the machines to do plastic recycling

Heyy You can get them here https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/ or even better, build your own! All you need is available here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

I've been watching a ton of One Army stuff this last week, specifically precious plastic and project kamp, and I have to say that Dave is a frickin inspiration, man. The fact that he was able to kill his own ego and make the channel and project not about him is actually insane, if I was in his position I don't know if I could say I'd do the same. Dave had the chance to essentially make a cult focused around him, all he'd have to do is be the center of attention for the videos and websites. But that's not what he did and that in itself is just amazing. Plus the fact that one of the things that One Army does amazing from an outsiders perspective is it seems like all the people involved are... Playing? Not in a bad way, I've found that I forgot how to play as an adult, I forgot how to have just juvenile fun with my friends or when I'm by myself. But just watching how the videos are edited, the quick jokes between members, I don't know how to say it just the vibes of the videos. It feels like kids that stayed true to themselves as they grew up. You're not just showing us that we can be more sustainable, but that we can be happy if we surround ourselves with a positive community with a purposed vision Anyways, y'all are awesome and I appreciate you lmao

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Hey guys. Im working on the workshop calculator. Does anyone knows how can i tell excel to calculate more products that out business will produce in order to have a reflective balance sheet? because it only allows me to have 11 products out of the 27

Hi people! I'm looking a bottommost answer to "Why are you part of this movement?" - Well, I guess helping makes one feel good, and that's the ultimate reason, already. Why helping others makes you feel good, then? Is it because helping makes life better to 2 or more people and not only 1 (yourself). But there still is the question why? Why do we want more happy lives? is that the ultimate goal? Is happiness and ease of living (less work because of less money is needed) and environmental equilibrium for the every day larger number of the people a good goal. Sure, yeah, it is a good goal, for sure. Is that the bottommost goal? Or is the 'feeling good' the personal reason and everything else I mentioned the other important reason? I'm getting lost. "Why are you part of this movement?", bottommost answer. Can't think of anything other than "It makes me feel good and eventually or sooner others to feel good themselves, as well." Okay, maybe that's what I was after, simple enough, simple enough.... thanks (edited)

Manu

Hi people! I'm looking a bottommost answer to "Why are you part of this movement?" - Well, I guess helping makes one feel good, and that's the ultimate reason, already. Why helping others makes you feel good, then? Is it because helping makes life better to 2 or more people and not only 1 (yourself). But there still is the question why? Why do we want more happy lives? is that the ultimate goal? Is happiness and ease of living (less work because of less money is needed) and environmental equilibrium for the every day larger number of the people a good goal. Sure, yeah, it is a good goal, for sure. Is that the bottommost goal? Or is the 'feeling good' the personal reason and everything else I mentioned the other important reason? I'm getting lost. "Why are you part of this movement?", bottommost answer. Can't think of anything other than "It makes me feel good and eventually or sooner others to feel good themselves, as well." Okay, maybe that's what I was after, simple enough, simple enough.... thanks (edited)

That's quite the existential question. I do believe a good portion of life is about the pursuit of happiness. For me, being a part of this is about community and being a part of something bigger than myself. Also, it just makes me feel good too

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Delving down the rabbit hole of "why do we...?" gets ugly quick with the question of "am I just my hormones?" and "do we have free will?" Truthfully I think that existentialism can be answered with "It's real enough, because I'm experiencing it." As for the pursuit of happiness... Well, making the world a better place serves ourselves and the next generation and that's about all that matters

9:49 PM

Even if you're the most selfish of people, a better world helps you as much as the next person

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Jeresy

Even if you're the most selfish of people, a better world helps you as much as the next person

Ahhhh, I enjoy this sentence - I guess there's not many bad sides of helping with achieving a better world, yes

https://youtu.be/rvskMHn0sqQ The concept of "Egotistic Altruism" is a good one, I feel

A Selfish Argument for Making the World a Better Place – Egoistic A...

Thank you very much :) Gotta watch

Jeresy

https://youtu.be/rvskMHn0sqQ The concept of "Egotistic Altruism" is a good one, I feel

if egoistic altruism works, why are folks still going hungry?

greed

MatchstickMan

greed

yeah but according to egotistic altruism, egotistic altruists are supposed to be the antidote to that

8:27 AM

i'm a much larger fan of what everybody here is doing: direct action

kwyjibo

yeah but according to egotistic altruism, egotistic altruists are supposed to be the antidote to that

Lol I imagine it also predicates on people not being dumb as hell

which people, the plebs or the bourgeoise? lol (edited)

i've been looking at the pp website for 20 minutes and i just can't find the link to the world map of places one can go that has a workshop already set up. i only know it exists because i watched a video with someone using it but it didn't show how to get there.

10:10 AM

everything i click on just funnels me to buy machine are start a new space.. but nothing aiming at spaces already made. so frustrating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzaobYDwCyE

kwyjibo

if egoistic altruism works, why are folks still going hungry?

Short term vs long term gain

10:53 AM

Egoistic Altruism doesn't mean it's okay to be greedy and selfish. It means that it's in your direct interest to better the world, since it helps yourself as well

10:53 AM

It's a way of channeling egotism, not a description of what's going on

hey guys just thought I would drop in here and say hi also how is everyone and what we all doing this fine Saturday or Sunday depending where in the world you are living

10:46 PM

Do you know about mud homes and building homes from the land I believe where you are would have alot of nice clay soil and given the about woodland there you could build homes using the land around and would not take long I think 30 days for a wooden cabin using trees from area cleared it not hard if you have enough hand it can become really good and efficient.

not sure where I can drop these link so I will drop them in here potentially quick dry place for everyone to build and live on site.

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Athos Outdoor Prospector

Building a Yoda's Hut! The best survival and warm amazing shelter (...

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11:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfV4jN-8iY&t=14s

Athos Outdoor Prospector

Building a Yoda's Hut (part #2) Spherical Shelter inside and Outsid...

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11:54 PM

Just amazing I thought I may not be out there to help but I can provide alot of knowledge and video to help I feel that is going to help I have another couple biogas generators can use as toilet and food waste to produce burning able renewable clean gas.

11:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9P6ywewmmk

MH4 TECH

Amazing idea to use free gas from garbage

11:59 PM

this is small idea of the biogas but can be expanded upon using water and other containers to use gravity to help pressurise the gas

12:02 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoyngJ9FaVs

The Better India

Turning waste plastic into Petrol | The Better India

12:03 AM

another one that could be useful there is real quick way to do this also although I would only take this as principle of concept this is not safe without producing correctly controlled system.

12:04 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjdJzL96xg

MH4 TECH

Plastic to Fuel | Turning Recycled Plastic to Fuel Like Petrol | ...

12:04 AM

i wont add anymore I leave those to be digested peace and love for earth and humanity

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zIvB1dJ3yc

Diamleon Diy Builds

How To Make A Simple Wood Chipper Using Drill Machine | DIY

12:49 AM

sorry have another one

Don't get scammed, friends

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hello everyone, I'm Vidhu Dwivedi, a product designer from India. I need some help in setting up my profile on bazar and map, please let me know if someone can help me with that. Thankyou

meanwhile in Manila, Pic I took Saturday. Downtown Manila is filled with plastic waste. Yet even offering to buy it, very few will actually bring it to me.

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Cybergamer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zIvB1dJ3yc

there's a facebook group called "Dangerous grinder attachments" and i think this one is suitable for that group.

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How does the subtitle thing work?

Great was going to ask that too. Are you using Amara or do subtitlers just get scripts to translate? Also, which languages are you looking to translate into?

Would be Interested in the Subtitle Thing aswell.

Hey guys! Just saw your Project Kamp #78 challenges video and would like to offer my help in translating the subtitles into French. Let us know what's the process for contributing is Your videos are getting better and better, I feel the project is on the right path to a stable fondation, paving the way for a brilliant future. Looking forward to come help some time soon Keep up the good work, your experiences are gold for a energy sobre low-tech future, thank you

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Also interested in subtitling needs

Hola! Max here from Buenos Aires - Argentina. Can fluently translate English to Spanish for your subtitles. Cheers!

Hey, noticed some of your issues with funding. Have y’all considered merch, such as t shirts, hoodies, etc? I know you couldn’t hold inventory or ship out the product, but dropshipping would be a great option!

JuanEcMo

Hey, noticed some of your issues with funding. Have y’all considered merch, such as t shirts, hoodies, etc? I know you couldn’t hold inventory or ship out the product, but dropshipping would be a great option!

Merch sounds great but I'm quite sure that dropshipping would not be a good fit for One Army because the products would not match the quality standards expected from that kind of community. It would be awesome if One Army could partner with someone in the community to produce merch based on recycled and sustainable products even if it sounds more tedious.

I use https://maestra.ai, it does voiceover and translation. what I do is I grab the video, sometimes have to edit the actual original text transcription to make it fit in the time space (otherwise it will make the speech too fast or give a wrong definition) mold for plastic can also translate into fungus as a common example. then export it with the new langage and subtitle embedded. then I also use a free service that is like the karaoke and strip the original voice from the video, so i can only get the background sound and music. after that it is simply mixing the original background sound with the AI generated voiceover and exporting video

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9:41 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C4dnDusJMI&t=1s

Isang plato ng pagkain na maaari mong kainin

@Diego V, @Ben,@DerDeutsche, @Frzzl, @Maximo -- send all your questions my way! And I will answer them!

12:11 PM

I mostly go over new translators/subtitle editors!

12:12 PM

Don't hesitate to ask something! We need all the help!

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DerDeutsche

Would be Interested in the Subtitle Thing aswell.

@DerDeutsche -- if you are still interested, please reach out to me!

Bart

Don't hesitate to ask something! We need all the help!

Hi! How are you? I'm interested in helping with the translation of the subtitles! my first language is Spanish and I'm fluent in English, but I have no experience editing subtitles but I'm willing to learn! and I have had experience translating documents and banners so I would love to help in any way I can!

ver23dv

Hi! How are you? I'm interested in helping with the translation of the subtitles! my first language is Spanish and I'm fluent in English, but I have no experience editing subtitles but I'm willing to learn! and I have had experience translating documents and banners so I would love to help in any way I can!

Sure! Could you please send me a DM to discuss this?

@ver23dv

hey guys I decided I selling everything and going nomad bicycle camping I very well may pass through camp I got a month to sell up and then I start my trip going be running two 270 watt solar panel although it will need some tinkering but the 2 solar panel will become the body of the camper and I will build framing around it. I am going document all via youtube I just working setting up new email and youtube other social media for the travel it all or nothing I suppose.

12:21 PM

picking up 540 watt of solar panels for 70 GBP that 35 gbp per panel bargain if you ask me shame I aint got a van or camper since there 4 more still left 140 GBP for another 4 but too heavy to cycle to portugal. Although I am sure the camp would make use of them KAMP use facebook market place for bargains

Hey everyone! I have a question that Im hoping I can get help with. I am new to Project Kamp Community and I have been wanting to do something like what they are doing for a long time. I am from the US and I am not familiar with the building laws in Portugal (They seem to be strict) Is there somewhere I can watch a video or does anyone have any information on how Project Kamp got all the paperwork signed off for what they are doing? I want to build a homestead of my own and while people will visit it wont be a huge community type thing like what they are doing. From all my research its really hard to build a tiny home or any type of home like that yourself becasue there are alot of restrictions. Any info you have would be so wonderful even if it is just pointing me in the direction of some resources! I am from the US like I said so I have to get alot of it figured out before I buy land and such becasue I have to have an inhabitance to file for residency. Thank you!!

Bart

Sure! Could you please send me a DM to discuss this?

@ver23dv

@ver23dv?

Hi @Bart I was told you deal with the subtitles for youtube. I am from Hungary and would love to look into helping with that. Can we look into it?

LexMal

Hey everyone! I have a question that Im hoping I can get help with. I am new to Project Kamp Community and I have been wanting to do something like what they are doing for a long time. I am from the US and I am not familiar with the building laws in Portugal (They seem to be strict) Is there somewhere I can watch a video or does anyone have any information on how Project Kamp got all the paperwork signed off for what they are doing? I want to build a homestead of my own and while people will visit it wont be a huge community type thing like what they are doing. From all my research its really hard to build a tiny home or any type of home like that yourself becasue there are alot of restrictions. Any info you have would be so wonderful even if it is just pointing me in the direction of some resources! I am from the US like I said so I have to get alot of it figured out before I buy land and such becasue I have to have an inhabitance to file for residency. Thank you!!

Better to have this chat over in #kamp-chat, but I think it's better to find out more information that's local to you. Building regulations vary from state to state, county to county, and city to city. So if you have a place in mind where you would want to do something like this, you're going to need to do some research. Living in vehicles full time might be illegal, depending on your location. Even if it's your own land or the landowner allows you to do so...just takes one complaint.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Better to have this chat over in #kamp-chat, but I think it's better to find out more information that's local to you. Building regulations vary from state to state, county to county, and city to city. So if you have a place in mind where you would want to do something like this, you're going to need to do some research. Living in vehicles full time might be illegal, depending on your location. Even if it's your own land or the landowner allows you to do so...just takes one complaint.

Ok good to know! I wasn’t sure about the channels so thank you. I will do some research on all that. Thanks!

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ok so officially started to build it today that it I decided I selling everything and do ebike camper touring here are the progress so far hour of work so far

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1:34 PM

and I have .5 kw solar panels coming tomorrow should be enough to keep my bike charged and run my electronics I need

1:36 PM

house is rented and I am around 800 gbp for rent a month so yea for sure could be putting that else where are then when talk about gas and electrics on that too we into a 1k a month. Right now the camper to build so far 80 GBP for solar panels 70 plus 10 delivery they rest I salvage from the recycling plant wood frame today I will walk back down see if I can find any good ply wood

Haven't been here in forever, hullo! I just finished my year of electrician trade school at my local community collage, so have a decent bit of time to be on-discord/doing wiki edits, so yeah. What all did i miss?

This company is trying to go zero plastic and is replacing its virgin plastic in clothing with recycled plastic. It's 90% of the way to its goal! Figure there might be an opportunity there for people here, who knows. I live 35 kilometers from its distribution center which has achieved 100% zero landfill! More about all of that at the link below: https://www.everlane.com/sustainability

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Juanlu

¡hola! yo vivo en Madrid y estaba buscando más información sobre Precious Plastic - ¿dices que hay un canal de España? y otra pregunta ¿dónde se coordina lo de las traducciones? ¡gracias!

Hola. Me llamo Víctor. Soy de Madrid. Estoy buscando gente por Madrid o España con la que intercambiar ideas acerca de los proyectos OneArmy. ¿Llegaste a contactar con mas gente? Un saludo (edited)

Hi there! I was wondering if it was possible to use PCR plastics with the precious plastic machine? Does anyone happen to know / have tried before?

mikhaela

Hi there! I was wondering if it was possible to use PCR plastics with the precious plastic machine? Does anyone happen to know / have tried before?

PCR is a bit vauge, prior to covid I would associate this with multiplying dna segments for my wife's dissertation when she was studying biology in university. There was a lot of waste for this process, lots of pipette tips and lots of trays. So long as things are safe to touch and handle and aren't containing infectious materials or hazardous materials like bromide, it should be ok. I've seen people recycle these materials, but I think usually they end up getting incinerated. No idea about plastics used for covid pcr tests.

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! I think I should have clarified so sorry, I meant Post Consumer Recycled plastics. Because we’ve been approached by a few people who use this in their body care products who want to try upcycling them with our precious plastic machines.

mikhaela

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply! I think I should have clarified so sorry, I meant Post Consumer Recycled plastics. Because we’ve been approached by a few people who use this in their body care products who want to try upcycling them with our precious plastic machines.

Ohh! Makes sense. Now I feel silly. The bulk of what most workspaces use as material are post consumer. We typically don't know if the sourced material was produced with recycled material.

TheCoolest

I think the key thing to note is that most plastics do not get recycled at all. It's just saying the ones which do create microplastic pollution, not comparing that to the ones which don't. Obviously we need to stop making so much plastic to begin with, but we also want to make sure the plastic which has already been made does not make it into the environment, and there's a better chance of that when it's getting properly recycled versus when it winds up in a landfill.

Sorry for late reply, I agree we make a lot of plastic but as you said the recycling process we are conducting is in fact accelerating the proliferation of micro and nano plastics throughout the environment, especially when we wash and shred. These particles then linger in the air and around facility (employees lungs) or go down the drain for the treatment plant to take of (which they do a bad job of). Modern recycling plants have a closed looped wastewater system where its mostly kept on site, but they still do a poor job of dealing with all the various chemicals found within the containers. Example of a modern recycling plant in Germany. Mulit million dollar facility. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=818D4YPewoE&ab_channel=GRANGAROGLOBAL Don't get me wrong I was in your shoes not that long ago but I am afraid we are only exacerbating the problem with low tech methods. These methods are not really new and are being used in 2nd and 3rd world countries already at the detriment to local population. There is a reason china stopped accepting everyone's recycling in 2018. Here is a Human Rights Watch report of detailing how millions of pounds of plastic being sent to turkey causing havoc with local workers health and surrounding area. https://www.hrw.org/report/2022/09/21/its-if-theyre-poisoning-us/health-impacts-plastic-recycling-turkey Perhaps it might be better to leave them in a land fill, incinerate (which has its own air pollutions problems) or leave it to the professionals. We are also propagating the illusion that plastic can be easily recycled, allowing for people to think its okay to just keep on buying bottled water and liquid dish detergent. Perhaps we instead focus on looking beyond plastic and promote systems that don't create them in the first place. Buying food and produce local etc.

GRAN GARO GLOBAL

FVH HydroDyn plastic recycling plant in Schwerin Germany (case study)

“It’s As If They’re Poisoning Us”

The 88-page report, “‘It’s as If They’re Poisoning Us’: The Health Impacts of Plastic Recycling in Turkey,” documents the consequences of the Turkish government’s ineffective response to the health and environmental impacts of plastic recycling on the right to health. Air pollutants and toxins emitted from recycling affect workers, including chi...

drewyorker

You stopped recycling using your PP set up. So how do you recycle now? Just another method that also produces microplastics in the end, and on top of that, may not end up getting recycled at all? Is this reason enough to stop recycling though? A plastic free economy is just simply not realistic. Even if you as an individual achieved a plastic free life, it is a tall order to get the whole of society on board. While Recycling may not be perfect, isn't it still better than not recycling?

Yea my v2 shredder and extruder pro are both collecting dust and I've stopped recycling all together. I really think we should concentrate and propagate systems that don't even create plastic waste in the first place e.g. project kamp. I think we are giving the world the wrong signal by saying "recycling is easy, just download these plans and you can do it too" when to do it responsibly (in terms of health and the environment) is really difficult and costly (see links above). I know project kamp is extreme but the idea of living and producing goods locally (less transport and packaging) is a more sustainable and better signal to be sending out.

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Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I mostly agree with what you're saying. If the transition were easy, it would have already been done.

yea getting away from plastic is nearly impossible I agree but perhaps we need to be looking at the reduce and reuse part of the sustainability equation.

itsgeorge

Yea my v2 shredder and extruder pro are both collecting dust and I've stopped recycling all together. I really think we should concentrate and propagate systems that don't even create plastic waste in the first place e.g. project kamp. I think we are giving the world the wrong signal by saying "recycling is easy, just download these plans and you can do it too" when to do it responsibly (in terms of health and the environment) is really difficult and costly (see links above). I know project kamp is extreme but the idea of living and producing goods locally (less transport and packaging) is a more sustainable and better signal to be sending out.

Ill buy your machines from you

drewyorker

Ill buy your machines from you

sure sent you a dm

as you said the recycling process we are conducting is in fact accelerating the proliferation of micro and nano plastics throughout the environment

that's... really not what I said. At all. But for the most part I kind of agree with you. The idea that plastic can be recycled is fueling its consumption to a dangerous extent. What I was trying to say is that recycling, while imperfect, is still better than non-recycled waste, which will still break down on its own into environmentally hazardous nanoparticles. Recycling at least delays the amount of time before the recycled plastic winds up in the environment. And above that, what I was also implying is that industrial recycling doesn't scale. It has not scaled, and it will not scale. As such, if any recycling at all can delay the plastic by weight from entering the environment, as particulate or as a whole which can later be broken down, it is better than letting it wind up in the ocean or landfill or Bangladeshi trash heap or whatever. We shouldn't be treating this as a solution to plastic pollution, we shouldn't keep acting like recycled plastic is in demand and very useful, but we should also acknowledge that for as long as plastics are being manufactured, anything to reduce the amount which gets diverted from recycling altogether is probably better than nothing. (edited)

I disagree there. I have been to plastic recycling factories in the Philippines that are giant. As in thousands of square meters buildings and a endless parade of trucks bringing plastic waste in and plastic pellets going out.

Butte (PP Philippines)

I disagree there. I have been to plastic recycling factories in the Philippines that are giant. As in thousands of square meters buildings and a endless parade of trucks bringing plastic waste in and plastic pellets going out.

here in Canada, we have been having a serious problem with recycling, in that we don't have the capacity to recycle it and nowhere else seems to want it because there's too much of it. From what I recall, when Canada started shipping recycled plastics to the Philippines, they just flat-out burnt them to make the point clear they don't want it. Almost all of the plastic destined for recycling in Canada does not go to industrial recycling facilities, due to issues like this.

5:05 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93Philippines_waste_dispute

Canada–Philippines waste dispute

The Canada–Philippines waste dispute was an international row over mislabeled Canadian garbage shipped to Manila by a recycling company. The 103 shipping containers that left from Vancouver in 2013–14 were labeled as recyclable plastics; they instead contained household waste. The intricacies of international treaties, the private company invol...

TheCoolest

as you said the recycling process we are conducting is in fact accelerating the proliferation of micro and nano plastics throughout the environment

that's... really not what I said. At all. But for the most part I kind of agree with you. The idea that plastic can be recycled is fueling its consumption to a dangerous extent. What I was trying to say is that recycling, while imperfect, is still better than non-recycled waste, which will still break down on its own into environmentally hazardous nanoparticles. Recycling at least delays the amount of time before the recycled plastic winds up in the environment. And above that, what I was also implying is that industrial recycling doesn't scale. It has not scaled, and it will not scale. As such, if any recycling at all can delay the plastic by weight from entering the environment, as particulate or as a whole which can later be broken down, it is better than letting it wind up in the ocean or landfill or Bangladeshi trash heap or whatever. We shouldn't be treating this as a solution to plastic pollution, we shouldn't keep acting like recycled plastic is in demand and very useful, but we should also acknowledge that for as long as plastics are being manufactured, anything to reduce the amount which gets diverted from recycling altogether is probably better than nothing. (edited)

I agree that recycling as with most processes should be done on a localized level, and the only reason that most of the worlds recycling is done on an industrial scale is the reason most things are done this way... because makes sense monetarily. Things are done at this scale because transport and logistics are cheap thanks to the abundance and accessible fossil fuels which I and many of us take for granted. Again recycling should be done locally but I really think these medieval means of shredding and fingers crossed "kinda" washing to make 2x4s and plastic plywood is kind of irresponsible.

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I am not even saying anything should be done locally instead of industrially I am saying it should be done locally because it's not being done industrially (edited)

TheCoolest

here in Canada, we have been having a serious problem with recycling, in that we don't have the capacity to recycle it and nowhere else seems to want it because there's too much of it. From what I recall, when Canada started shipping recycled plastics to the Philippines, they just flat-out burnt them to make the point clear they don't want it. Almost all of the plastic destined for recycling in Canada does not go to industrial recycling facilities, due to issues like this.

But we aren't doing it industrially

yes

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recycling_in_Canada

Out of all the material that Canadians dispose of in the recycling bin, 12% is exported to other countries, such as Malaysia, where it is processed and damages the environment and the health of the population.[17] Of the remaining 88%, 86% goes to the landfill, 9% is recycled, and the rest is burned for energy.[18][19][20]

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Yes v4 is a viable production line but they have these all over india and 2nd and 3rd world. And its not a very safe practice. Just google or YouTube any recycling company in these counties and yea they are producing recycled plastic but very irresponsibly.

I'm not sure if you and I are having the same understanding of what this conversation is about

I get it Canada doesn't recycle and its being sent to south east Asia and just being burned. I get it but the solution is not a v2 shredder in everyone's suburban backyard.

5:13 PM

what are you even proposing?

not necessarily everyone in suburbia having shredders but at least the few willing to make use of them, I'm not convinced it's as bad as landfill plastic

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-discover-microbes-that-could-revolutionize-plastic-recycling-180982185/

Scientists Discover Microbes That Could Revolutionize Plastic Recyc...

These bacteria and fungi can break down certain plastics at cool temperatures, saving money and energy compared to some current methods

5:16 PM

Here's actually some good news of Fungai and bacteria breaking down plastic. What makes this different than in the past is that these processes are happening at lower temperatures which makes the process cheaper.

oh yeah they found stuff like that years ago but the rate of breakdown plus the danger of introducing non-native species' just to destroy plastics is ehhhhhhhhh

It's what ever dude, all I am saying is be careful because I was shredding and making 2x4 beams in my garage with vent for fumes and vacuum system for plastic dust control and the stuff still got everywhere.

5:20 PM

The tech here is really on the low end, yea it recycles plastic but at what human cost? At least in a land fill all the plastic is localized in one area.

and fair enough, I haven't gotten into any at-home recycling yet so I don't know the full experience of that

5:21 PM

actually just joined this server a few weeks ago

itsgeorge

The tech here is really on the low end, yea it recycles plastic but at what human cost? At least in a land fill all the plastic is localized in one area.

I did think that about landfills for a while until I realized that for one thing a lot of trash destined for landfill still doesn't even wind up there, and for two, it's not as perfectly contained as like, a nuclear waste disposal site. They just put turf over it and pretend it was never there, only for it to be eroded away at later.

I think our jobs are to try and tackle waste before it even begins.

definitely

Which is like 100000x harder

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5:25 PM

Requires actual real lifestyle changes.

5:25 PM

I really don't think we can all drive teslas and consume at our current rate.

5:26 PM

enter project kamp

I helped lobby my local government to enact single use packaging bylaws so there are things which can happen there in terms of great Pacific garbage patch stuff there would need to be more regulations surrounding Asian fisheries because the bulk of it is made of their nets

There is a cool company in greece that takes fishermans nets and 3d prints them into furniture.

5:29 PM

https://bluecycle.com/en/

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Blue Cycle | Beyond Marine Plastic Waste

beyond marine plastic waste…

TheCoolest

I helped lobby my local government to enact single use packaging bylaws so there are things which can happen there in terms of great Pacific garbage patch stuff there would need to be more regulations surrounding Asian fisheries because the bulk of it is made of their nets

(and I say single use packaging because single use cardboard isn't great either, doesn't do enough to just ban plastics)

I was eventually going that route. Large scale 3d printer to make furniture. It's where the moneys at anyway, you want to go after people with deep pockets

5:30 PM

lol if we cant use cardboard or plastic than there is literally no way to ship anything

but the nets can be like, nylon, shit's poisonous to remelt

itsgeorge

lol if we cant use cardboard or plastic than there is literally no way to ship anything

shipping is another problem, the bylaws mostly tackled restaurant takeout

That's the conundrum, I was getting car oil containers filled with who knows washing by hand in my slop sink and slowly realizing that this is really not the way haha.

5:33 PM

With plastic recycling you really aren't 100% certain what you are getting material wise and what was once inside of them.

5:34 PM

I run a restaurant with my brother and wanted to recycle all of our plastic. Thats where this all started for me 2 years ago.

5:34 PM

there's a local business here which offers reusable takeout containers which can be dropped back off months later or collected for a fee it's imperfect but it's an idea which can maybe be worked on

Instead of recycling we are starting to rethink how to work without the plastic aka actually learn how to cook.

5:37 PM

With literally 4 ingredients (water, fat/oil, sugar or HFCS , acid aka vinegar or citrus) you can make any sauce or food.

TheCoolest

there's a local business here which offers reusable takeout containers which can be dropped back off months later or collected for a fee it's imperfect but it's an idea which can maybe be worked on

Yea there are a couple companies in San Fran and NYC that are trying to coordinate. I think its a really good idea.

5:39 PM

All 4 ingredients can be sourced without plastic containers its just really hard. Like we are making vinegar on site which isnt hard but to everyone else sound lunatic since its so cheap.

I'm just thinking now, how would boxless shipping work if such a thing existed

5:40 PM

presumably the delivery truck is full of reusable boxes which the driver can unpack at the doorstep

5:41 PM

like milk crates

Started working with local farms as well for our produce, we have big plastic crates that they throw everything inside and we obviously reuse.

5:41 PM

bingo

5:43 PM

The problem is honestly meat and dairy. That stuff needs to be pasteurized and processed aseptically. Plastic is a nice way to wrap everything up and keep it aseptic.

so the real problem is convincing everyone to reduce meat consumption

It a part of it yea, but really everything produced processed and transported at an industrial scale is wrapped in plastic.

5:45 PM

It honestly has to be since you want safe food.

Anyway I gotta get on with my day, good talk

yea you too

5:46 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=jason+bradford+nate+hagens&oq=jason+bradford+nate+hagens&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.8206j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:aceb32cd,vid:PjLw-_Rhb_U

5:47 PM

interesting podcast about all this.

What we need are reusable standardized containers for consumer goods. In New Zealand we've got a non-toxic modular recyclable system for beer that's been in use for a century. If we can develop an open source universal standard modular system for packaged goods that maximises reusability then waste will be dramatically reduced.

6:16 PM

https://www.theshout.co.nz/industry-insights-100-years-of-the-swappa-crate-sustainability-at-its-best/

The Shout NZ

Industry insights: 100 years of the Swappa Crate. Sustainability at...

The ABC brand Swappa crate bottle has been a part of our lives for generations. But their future is under threat.

An IBC is an international standard. I'm thinking something like that, but at smaller scales. For standardized 3d packaging this to work we need a standard volumetric unit. I'm suggesting a 40 x 40 x 40 mm cube as that works well with existing 1200mm x 800mm pallet standard.

I'm working on a standardized system for structures based on this unit (www.gridkit.nz) and it's working really well. 40mm matches the existing public domain standard for v-slot aluminum channel. As unexciting as it sounds standardization is what will help reduce waste. This chart always helps to bring me back to reality though.

Hello, I just stumbled upon the website. How can I find if there is a workspace/collection point/community point near me?

Dear Precious Plastic Team, I am delighted to inform you that our project, "Plastic-Free Rivers and Seas for South Asia," has been shortlisted for the 1.5 million USD grant by SACEP. As fervent admirers of Precious Plastic and its remarkable efforts in tackling plastic pollution, we are reaching out to request your participation as our esteemed plastic expert. We firmly believe that your extensive knowledge and expertise in plastic recycling and waste management would be invaluable in strengthening our project proposal and significantly enhancing its impact. By joining forces, we can develop efficient recycling systems, share best practices, and raise awareness about the urgent need to combat plastic pollution in South Asia. To proceed with the final proposal submission, we kindly request a commitment letter of partnership from Precious Plastic, expressing your willingness to collaborate with us throughout the development and implementation phases. This commitment letter will serve as a tangible demonstration of our shared vision and dedication to creating a plastic-free future in the region. Furthermore, we would love to share our concept note. It provides a comprehensive overview of our objectives, implementation plans, and the stakeholders involved. We are confident that upon reviewing the details, you will recognize the immense potential for positive change that our collaboration can bring. As the submission deadline for partnership commitments approaches, we kindly request your prompt response. Should you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to contact me directly at gin@ginearth.org Thank you for your attention, and we eagerly await your positive response. Together, we can make a substantial difference in combatting plastic pollution and safeguarding our rivers and seas. Warm regards, Ugyen Yeshi Dorji Gross International Nature +975-17482889

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Green greetings from Bamenda Cameroon, I've downloaded the laser cut files for the shredder but don't have an app on my laptop that can open them. Please can anyone give me PDFs of JPEG images of the files.

Also, i will like to connect with community members from China who have experience and networks with respect to building the Precious Plastic Shredders and other equipment

I gotta say... It's amazing that One Army actually has good web design. So many similar things become super inaccessible because their websites look like they are straight out of 2002. Nice job! (also the design itself is super unique)

davehakkens

anyone here experience with blockchain/dApps/crypto? Just created a One Army Coin (OAC) https://etherscan.io/token/0xf17e9e4e32d842e4ddfbed5750a26f7bd77777ee No idea what i'm even trying to achieve here. Sunday playtime project. (edited)

Ok, I am a bit curious

clients keep asking me to build a wood chipper/biowaste shredder. So I am giving it a try. 26hp mounted on a trailer.

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Taiga5552

Dear Precious Plastic Team, I am delighted to inform you that our project, "Plastic-Free Rivers and Seas for South Asia," has been shortlisted for the 1.5 million USD grant by SACEP. As fervent admirers of Precious Plastic and its remarkable efforts in tackling plastic pollution, we are reaching out to request your participation as our esteemed plastic expert. We firmly believe that your extensive knowledge and expertise in plastic recycling and waste management would be invaluable in strengthening our project proposal and significantly enhancing its impact. By joining forces, we can develop efficient recycling systems, share best practices, and raise awareness about the urgent need to combat plastic pollution in South Asia. To proceed with the final proposal submission, we kindly request a commitment letter of partnership from Precious Plastic, expressing your willingness to collaborate with us throughout the development and implementation phases. This commitment letter will serve as a tangible demonstration of our shared vision and dedication to creating a plastic-free future in the region. Furthermore, we would love to share our concept note. It provides a comprehensive overview of our objectives, implementation plans, and the stakeholders involved. We are confident that upon reviewing the details, you will recognize the immense potential for positive change that our collaboration can bring. As the submission deadline for partnership commitments approaches, we kindly request your prompt response. Should you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to contact me directly at gin@ginearth.org Thank you for your attention, and we eagerly await your positive response. Together, we can make a substantial difference in combatting plastic pollution and safeguarding our rivers and seas. Warm regards, Ugyen Yeshi Dorji Gross International Nature +975-17482889

Direct contact information? I operate Precious Plastic Philippines. We are located in Manila and have two of the worlds largest ocean plastic sources within 10km of our shop. We work with several NGO for recycling including UNDP, WWF, Rotary, Coke Philippines foundation, and participate in the international coastal cleanup. We are also a registered member of PARMS and a participant in the Extended producers responsibility act where we collect and process plastic waste for waste offset credits.

Hello, complete newbie here. I’m hoping someone answer my questions: 1. Can you make food-grade, dishwasher-safe kitchenware with the PP process/materials? 2. Can you shred and use any kind of plastic? (Like old happy meal toys, for instance) 3. Can you shred plastic bags and turn them into something new? Thank you for your time!

alexparker

Hello, complete newbie here. I’m hoping someone answer my questions: 1. Can you make food-grade, dishwasher-safe kitchenware with the PP process/materials? 2. Can you shred and use any kind of plastic? (Like old happy meal toys, for instance) 3. Can you shred plastic bags and turn them into something new? Thank you for your time!

1. Depends on the regulations of the country you are in. 2. Stick with PE/PP plastics. Happy meal toys are likely PP. 3. Lots of questions about plastic bags. They're a bit clingy and can cause issues. What outcome are you trying to get?

@Project Kamp how is the recycled sheet roof holding up? thinking of doing something similar to dress up a geodesic dome

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

1. Depends on the regulations of the country you are in. 2. Stick with PE/PP plastics. Happy meal toys are likely PP. 3. Lots of questions about plastic bags. They're a bit clingy and can cause issues. What outcome are you trying to get?

Thank you! I’m in the US…any idea on the regulations re: kitchenware? As for the plastic bags, just hoping to reduce waste and find a use for them.

Alpaca, this is not the server for this stuff. (edited)

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6:04 PM

No offense.

alexparker

Thank you! I’m in the US…any idea on the regulations re: kitchenware? As for the plastic bags, just hoping to reduce waste and find a use for them.

You might ask someone on the Prescious Plastics USA server? I imagine the FDA might have some guidelines?

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Can we mix wood dust and plastic to turn them into sheets

That is an available product already, so it is possible, but maybe not very easy without dedicated machines.

mhonchan

Can we mix wood dust and plastic to turn them into sheets

The question is: how much? I have found that sawdust, aluminum shavings, labels, pine needles, bits of other plastics, and whatever can be mixed in with melted plastic...but I don't know what non-plastic percentage starts to require a compatibilizer to maintain its structural integrity

Any idea how many plate heater watts required to melt plastic

mhonchan

Can we mix wood dust and plastic to turn them into sheets

Look up wood plastic composites. WPC is a thing and doable. Just complicates future recycling.

mhonchan

Any idea how many plate heater watts required to melt plastic

Well that is not an easy question but let's go through some math. The Precious Plastic sheet press calls for 15kw of heating and the sheet size is 1m2. There are two heaters, so 15kw/2 = 7.5kw per 1m2 heater. There are 10,000cm2 in 1m2. We divide the heater power by the area to get power/cm2. 7,500w/10,000cm2 = 0.75w/cm2. This means the sheet press uses 0.75w per cm2 per heater. Remember, there's two heaters! One on top and one on bottom.

3:27 PM

So let's say you have your own custom design. Machine size: 25cm x 100cm Find area: 25cm x 100cm = 2,500cm2 Power desired per cm2 = 0.75. Multiply area by power: 2,500cm2/0.75w= 1,875w per heater Top + bottom heater: 1,875w + 1,875w = 3,750w total for the machine heaters.

See the chat got alot more busier since I was last able pop on, hi everyone hope everyone life is going well I just about to change my handles got my Newone for my Nomadic Adventure I have been prepping camper parts so it will just need assemble when come to putting it together on video. I never went with a solar panel option as the panel I went to view was far too heavy even though the other option is just as heavy I needing to really evaulate the power usage and what is going be my minimal to be able still sustain development and video editing purposes aswell as being able to charge things. Batteries are proving most costly and considering my asset I have is my possession I guess I must have either bad pricing or bad taste as I struggling to sell things although I still set my leaving date for the end of June. I just hoping I can reach this in time

for anyone that appreciates alot bit of messing around

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Hi everyone, I’m Sem. I’m currently working on my graduation project at the Technical University in Delft where I’m challenged to create solutions to the problem of huge amounts of plastic waste from hospitals. After lots of research and developing different concepts I’m at the stage of developing a business plan and I'm currently choosing precious plastic machines to recycle mainly HDPE, LDPE and PET. If you have some experience with the above and are exited to help me with a quick 5 minute chat, that would be amazing!

Hi everyone. I am Barış. Me and my friends have built a plastic extrusion machine as a design project. Precious plastic's project templates and videos enabled us to understand the system to build up our own machine. We really appreciate the resources you guys share with the world. Thanks. Here is our design. (Sorry for the bad cabel management, we are new in this sort of projects) . We are open to any kind of recommendations.

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Hi all, I hope this okay here. I'm planning on creating a social media site/community (lemmy instance) focused on principals like self governance. I'd love if I could get a small group to start it off with. I figured I may find someone here. The doc below contains a brainstorm for this project. Please lmk if anyone is interested. https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/view/5y-oBeLHkm5To+ouMA+WBbF4lKks2RKrSqgF2XZMx88/

Encrypted Rich text

CryptPad: end-to-end encrypted collaboration suite

3:42 PM

✋

PeaceOut

Hi everyone. I am Barış. Me and my friends have built a plastic extrusion machine as a design project. Precious plastic's project templates and videos enabled us to understand the system to build up our own machine. We really appreciate the resources you guys share with the world. Thanks. Here is our design. (Sorry for the bad cabel management, we are new in this sort of projects) . We are open to any kind of recommendations.

Very cool! What are you using the arduino for? Looks like temperature control + display.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Very cool! What are you using the arduino for? Looks like temperature control + display.

Yes, we have made our own temperature controller and displayed the set temperature + actual temperature for each heater clamp.

Thought this may help

5:11 PM

5:12 PM

Some ideas with this research paper https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214785323015353#ab005

Turning low-density polyethylene plastic waste into plastics bricks...

Plastic trash is a global environmental problem. Recycling and creating commercial products from waste plastics are the best solutions to mitigate env…

metaltoilet

Hi all, I hope this okay here. I'm planning on creating a social media site/community (lemmy instance) focused on principals like self governance. I'd love if I could get a small group to start it off with. I figured I may find someone here. The doc below contains a brainstorm for this project. Please lmk if anyone is interested. https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/view/5y-oBeLHkm5To+ouMA+WBbF4lKks2RKrSqgF2XZMx88/

Sure, it's ok. I appreciate seeking better outcomes... I am afraid that introducing new constructs of legitimacy, authority,.. and what had we, .. however wont change it all

Taiga5552

Dear Precious Plastic Team, I am delighted to inform you that our project, "Plastic-Free Rivers and Seas for South Asia," has been shortlisted for the 1.5 million USD grant by SACEP. As fervent admirers of Precious Plastic and its remarkable efforts in tackling plastic pollution, we are reaching out to request your participation as our esteemed plastic expert. We firmly believe that your extensive knowledge and expertise in plastic recycling and waste management would be invaluable in strengthening our project proposal and significantly enhancing its impact. By joining forces, we can develop efficient recycling systems, share best practices, and raise awareness about the urgent need to combat plastic pollution in South Asia. To proceed with the final proposal submission, we kindly request a commitment letter of partnership from Precious Plastic, expressing your willingness to collaborate with us throughout the development and implementation phases. This commitment letter will serve as a tangible demonstration of our shared vision and dedication to creating a plastic-free future in the region. Furthermore, we would love to share our concept note. It provides a comprehensive overview of our objectives, implementation plans, and the stakeholders involved. We are confident that upon reviewing the details, you will recognize the immense potential for positive change that our collaboration can bring. As the submission deadline for partnership commitments approaches, we kindly request your prompt response. Should you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to contact me directly at gin@ginearth.org Thank you for your attention, and we eagerly await your positive response. Together, we can make a substantial difference in combatting plastic pollution and safeguarding our rivers and seas. Warm regards, Ugyen Yeshi Dorji Gross International Nature +975-17482889

This is... incredible. Requesting a commitment from folks you can't name, by way of a public forum, after dangling grant money, is either absurdly naive or overtly a scam.

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PeaceOut

Hi everyone. I am Barış. Me and my friends have built a plastic extrusion machine as a design project. Precious plastic's project templates and videos enabled us to understand the system to build up our own machine. We really appreciate the resources you guys share with the world. Thanks. Here is our design. (Sorry for the bad cabel management, we are new in this sort of projects) . We are open to any kind of recommendations.

Nice job, I love seeing projects like this. What kind of motor is that.... 12V? (edited)

recently I've been thrown into ewaste recycling. I'm running circuit boards though hammer mill with a 1/2" x 3.5" screen. after this i remove ferrous metals and then go into a finer screen hammermill. then using a shaker table i separate metals from everything else (and my question). Is there a way to find something useable from the sludge that is my plastics and fibers from circuit boards? i have to chew up the boards to this level to recover the precious metals (gold, silver, etc) with minimal chemicals.

There were some Cody'sLab videos on this on YouTube. I think that was just precious metal recovery though, but he saved the sludges for processing.

HAL_9000

Nice job, I love seeing projects like this. What kind of motor is that.... 12V? (edited)

It's a 24V DC Motor. (Rpm:30, Stall torque: 90kgf.cm)

Hi, I am new here. I actually want to recycle coffee into a cup. like the photo. Does someone know how can I do it?

2:41 PM

Like this

yaniv

Hi, I am new here. I actually want to recycle coffee into a cup. like the photo. Does someone know how can I do it?

You can try something like this: https://youtu.be/zTu9zhU3Xck If you're not into 3d printing, I'd perhaps look into resin based hardeners to mix with. Just make sure whatever you use is foodsafe and heat-treated for temperatures of 85°c etc.

CNC Kitchen

I made COFFEE 3D Printing FILAMENT

Hi, I've made a bio cup from rice bran using a bio press machine. But why do my bio cup surface is not look like shining?

Hi

8:35 AM

Any one there

3DScotty

You can try something like this: https://youtu.be/zTu9zhU3Xck If you're not into 3d printing, I'd perhaps look into resin based hardeners to mix with. Just make sure whatever you use is foodsafe and heat-treated for temperatures of 85°c etc.

Hi, thank you for the video I will watch it, but do you think I should use food safe epoxy? According to what I understood, epoxy and food are not the best combination together

rzkyis

Hi, I've made a bio cup from rice bran using a bio press machine. But why do my bio cup surface is not look like shining?

Hi, your glass looks really good, how can you make a glass like this without a pressing device that costs several tens of thousands of dollars? But with things that are in the house like an oven, etc

yaniv

Hi, your glass looks really good, how can you make a glass like this without a pressing device that costs several tens of thousands of dollars? But with things that are in the house like an oven, etc

Hi, nope, I've Made a small pressing machine for making this bio cup, but to be honest the result was not good enough.

rzkyis

Hi, nope, I've Made a small pressing machine for making this bio cup, but to be honest the result was not good enough.

Why didn't the result turn out well? It looks really good But shouldn't there also be heat when pressing?

yaniv

Why didn't the result turn out well? It looks really good But shouldn't there also be heat when pressing?

Thanks. Yup that was heated when pressing. I Made a simple heating element for heating during process.

yaniv

Hi, thank you for the video I will watch it, but do you think I should use food safe epoxy? According to what I understood, epoxy and food are not the best combination together

I'd definitely use a food safe epoxy if you plan on using it for drinking, yes.

morning here, too

I tried to recycle coffee without a pressing machine but using a core as shown in the picture. I heated both cups with fire, and it didn't work. Can someone who has succeeded in a different way than building a pressing machine help me?

9:38 AM

yaniv

Click to see attachment 🖼️

gonna need a lot more pressure than that

Butte (PP Philippines)

clients keep asking me to build a wood chipper/biowaste shredder. So I am giving it a try. 26hp mounted on a trailer.

Hey! I remember a while ago you were extruding into a separate vessel before putting the plastic into your compression moulding setup.

6:08 AM

I'm thinking to emulate that to make bricks better, but I was wondering if you'd seen anyone produce a dedicated receptical for this, with a way to push the plastic out.

6:08 AM

Do you think there would be any value in that?

yaniv

I tried to recycle coffee without a pressing machine but using a core as shown in the picture. I heated both cups with fire, and it didn't work. Can someone who has succeeded in a different way than building a pressing machine help me?

You need to use a different size between top and bottom mould

yaniv

I tried to recycle coffee without a pressing machine but using a core as shown in the picture. I heated both cups with fire, and it didn't work. Can someone who has succeeded in a different way than building a pressing machine help me?

Here

Blame Canada:

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rzkyis

Here

So cool! Would you like to make a how to on this?

rzkyis

Here

If not packed tightly, these might make good seedling pots

Lovely weather we’re having, etc., etc…

Elsie Hupp

Lovely weather we’re having, etc., etc…

Yeah I know

From a photography perspective it’s too bad the piss yellow peaked like two or three hours ago. I was hoping to get a piss-yellow Manhattan skyline! (edited)

10:40 PM

Instead all I got was piss-yellow Mordor:

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Elsie Hupp

From a photography perspective it’s too bad the piss yellow peaked like two or three hours ago. I was hoping to get a piss-yellow Manhattan skyline! (edited)

I live north from the city

10:41 PM

And we are getting fog

Alex_recycles and creates

I live north from the city

Can you yell at Canada for me?

I know a admin who’s from Canada

10:42 PM

In another server

10:42 PM

Actually 2

10:42 PM

I ranted about it

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I mean I’m sure I’ll get the opportunity for more apocalyptic photos before long…

This is why we need carbon capturing technology

Well, not just carbon capture… emissions reduction are important, too!

wait what’s happening in canada?

Major wildfires

ohh

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Elsie Hupp

Instead all I got was piss-yellow Mordor:

Not that it's a competition but this reminds me of what happened to Singapore a few years back. https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-researchers-peat-burning-sumatra-causes-severe-haze-singapore-1121 Crazy stuff.

Burning Indonesian peat causes haze in Singapore

Radiocarbon measurements by MIT researchers provide evidence that the origin of the haze over Indonesia is peat, not deforestation and waste burning as many believed.

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8:34 AM

recently found my first ghost pipes of the year

8:34 AM

pretty dang excited

8:34 AM

i love these flowers so much

8:34 AM

Whos the head here

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Not that it's a competition but this reminds me of what happened to Singapore a few years back. https://news.mit.edu/2018/mit-researchers-peat-burning-sumatra-causes-severe-haze-singapore-1121 Crazy stuff.

I sent the photo to one of my friends in Malaysia since I know Southeast Asia has had several comparable haze episodes in recent years.

2:45 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asian_haze

Southeast Asian haze

The Southeast Asian haze is a fire-related recurrent transboundary air pollution issue. Haze events, where air quality reaches hazardous levels due to high concentrations of airborne particulate matter from burning biomass, have caused adverse health, environmental and economic impacts in several countries in Southeast Asia. Caused primarily by ...

Elsie Hupp

I sent the photo to one of my friends in Malaysia since I know Southeast Asia has had several comparable haze episodes in recent years.

Ughhhh it's so sad. Slash and burn for more oil palm plantations. I haven't heard any complaints in the past 5 years though, but I'm sure it's still going on in some areas

bro

Whos the head here

Welcome to the discord server. Which head are you looking for?

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Ughhhh it's so sad. Slash and burn for more oil palm plantations. I haven't heard any complaints in the past 5 years though, but I'm sure it's still going on in some areas

The deforestation conglomerates do have some really nice greenwashing, though! https://www.archnet.org/sites/4429

Archnet > Site > Guthrie Pavilion

Archnet is an accessible resource for architecture, urbanism, environmental and landscape design, visual culture, and conservation related to the Muslim world.

The punchline of this joke is that I am old. #BlameCanada

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Elsie Hupp

The deforestation conglomerates do have some really nice greenwashing, though! https://www.archnet.org/sites/4429

Haha, well that has far more effort than what i've seen. I saw ads for a housing development where they called it a green housing community. They planted a tree in front of every house. That was it. Easy peasy. Just dont think about the forest that was once there where the houses are. haha

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Haha, well that has far more effort than what i've seen. I saw ads for a housing development where they called it a green housing community. They planted a tree in front of every house. That was it. Easy peasy. Just dont think about the forest that was once there where the houses are. haha

I mean the Guthrie Pavilion is actually a pretty cool example of using a double roof to reduce solar heat gain. Kenneth Yeang was IIRC one of the lecturers when I was studying at UM, and he's done a number of buildings with this roof typology. I actually previously mentioned the Guthrie Pavilion in one of the comment threads on this research module: https://community.projectkamp.com/research/making-a-sturdy-single-person-tent

Making a sturdy single person tent

Project Kamp will stay in pretty basic conditions for a few years in the beginning until we setup enough housing for everyone. And likely in the long term the project will expand in the summer and shrink in the winter. In order to give people a good place to sleep in summer but not build too many things we need structures that we can take down. ...

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Welcome to the discord server. Which head are you looking for?

The leader of the village

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i have a question: probably you already mentioned it somewhere, but i can't find it. -> you mentioned in update #68: you compiled several standard set-ups for making videos. In this way everyone in camp can grab a camera (and the rest) and start recording their contribution. my question: can you share what choices you made in that standard set-up -> what is the set-up ? which camera, which tripod, which microphone and so on ?

bro

The leader of the village

How about this: Which village? Why?

bro

The leader of the village

I am afraid this ship is abandoned since long. What you´d like to know ?

id like to know who is the founder of that one youtube channel where they build a whole village

10:09 PM

i have an important message to give him

10:09 PM

i want to make an alliance

10:09 PM

the one in portugal

bro

the one in portugal

there you go, https://projectkamp.com/faq.html

appreciate id thank you

Hello everyone. We are a family that 1,5 year ago moved to Azores Island (Portugal) to start our own Project Kamp. Basically our goal is to create a small village self sufficient in all basic needs. A lot of things were done. A lot more to do. At the moment we are searching for people interested to join in. People that want to participate in building such a project (2 people). People that want to give a try and be a part of the community (1 person, 1 couple, 1 family). Feel free to reach me for further contacts.

Hello everyone. I am looking to build a kiosk kitchen from a 20ft shipping container but I’m looking for some reference on a electric and plumbing diagram. Help

Hello! I'm Carol and I'm from a Brazilian NGO, I'm researching about the machinery to make plastic buttons. Could someone help me about making plastic buttons?

Hi, I would love to hear from people who have managed to recycle coffee into a cup shape, if I take two stainless steel cups and press them both together with a jack will that work?

Carolina Sales

Hello! I'm Carol and I'm from a Brazilian NGO, I'm researching about the machinery to make plastic buttons. Could someone help me about making plastic buttons?

Hey! This how-to may help you. https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-buttons-from-ocean-rope Also, I know a WS that has made buttons from plastic. Let me know if you want to chat with them

Make buttons from Ocean Rope

As a coastal Precious Plastic workshop it's not a surprise to us that some of our prototyping focuses on plastics collected on Norfolk beach cleans. Ocean rope is a common find for beach cleaners around the 100 miles of Norfolk coastline and was one of our earliest experiments manufacturing from beach finds. We pick out the rope from local fin...

Marcela - Community Manager @ PP

Hey! This how-to may help you. https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-buttons-from-ocean-rope Also, I know a WS that has made buttons from plastic. Let me know if you want to chat with them

@Carolina Sales That community link doesn't seem to work, but this guy made some pretty nice buttons with a DIY machine: https://youtu.be/E9pEjYjBv7k

AndysMachines

Building a better DIY injection moulding machine part 2

PlasticAndy

@Carolina Sales That community link doesn't seem to work, but this guy made some pretty nice buttons with a DIY machine: https://youtu.be/E9pEjYjBv7k

hey, the link seem to be working for me. If it's not, can you please report the bug to #website-problems ?

Hey, my name is Guilherme looking forward to contribute in this community!

Marcela - Community Manager @ PP

Hey! This how-to may help you. https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/make-buttons-from-ocean-rope Also, I know a WS that has made buttons from plastic. Let me know if you want to chat with them

Marcela, thanks for the feedback and for sharing that link, it worked for me.

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PlasticAndy

@Carolina Sales That community link doesn't seem to work, but this guy made some pretty nice buttons with a DIY machine: https://youtu.be/E9pEjYjBv7k

Hi, thanks for sharing this video!

Carolina Sales

Marcela, thanks for the feedback and for sharing that link, it worked for me.

Glad to hear! Hit me up if you need anything else

Hey Guys I’m new to this discord group , My name is Jean , I live in Miami,FL and I’ve been following precious Plastics since Dave started the project , I’ve always been more of a spectator, but now that I have my own recycling company I’m start to realize how power and how big of a problem is , especially in the Ewaste field , I have some ideas I’d like to share , if anyone is in the area or would like to discuss it further

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For context I have thousands of pounds of ABS Plastic from old computers , printers , keyboards etc . I believe I stumbled upon precious plastics for a reason , and I’ve been very Interested in the sheet press idea but with a twist , Can we combine plastics with paper to make a light weight but durable product for the production of furniture that can last generations

Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone could help me with the ratios/ways you have identified plastics following the float test like the following video? https://youtu.be/fsqLJNyrVss

Precious Plastic - The basics of plastic (part 2.1)

Hi I was wondering if there is a program in Hawaii that helps melt plastic into brick

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I live on the big island of hawaii

Should I introduce myself

if you wan :D

My wife and I just finished with the ASTRA trade show (American Specialty Toy Retailer Association). Recycled/sustainable is a big area of growth both in terms of products offered and queries from the specialty toy stores -- one manufacturer in our aisle told me that literally every retailer who spoke with them asked if their plastic was recycled (it is not, yet, except for internal regrinding of sprues and whatnot; but they are interested in doing more). Further down our aisle, Shore Buddies is making plush toys/stuffed animals from 100% recycled polyester (thread/cloth and batting spun from recycled PET bottles). In terms of the toy market, a big concern is the issue of safety testing, which is essential to meet the regulatory requirements for sales in many jurisdictions (particularly for products aimed at children under 14 years old), and can be quite costly. One testing firm that specializes in the toy industry had a booth there, and I had a very interesting conversation about the tests and processes that would need to be kept in mind for plastics recycling. Setting aside the specific testing requirements for final products (such as choking hazard standards), the concerns on recycled plastic raw material would be testing for pthalates and lead, and California's Prop. 65 (which requires labeling to warn of "chemicals known to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm" -- you've probably seen this warning on tons of products). Roughly speaking, each time you do this battery of tests on a sample it's about a $200 cost. Possible approaches are periodic random testing (say, every month you send of a random sample of raw materials for testing, and keep record of that ongoing procedure as due diligence to catch any problems); or batch testing (where a large quantity of material is mixed together as a batch and randomly sampled for testing; then that specific batch is recorded and tracked).

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Anyhow...I thought this might be useful information for other Precious Plastics community members, who might be thinking about recycled plastic products marketed for kids in many countries.

I also wrote a blog entry on our website about this show, toys, & plastics recycling: https://www.atlas-games.com/news/post?s=2023-06-15-astra-trade-show-report-toys-and-recycling

ASTRA Trade Show Report: Toys and Recycling

Earlier this week, Michelle and I attended the ASTRA trade show (American Specialty Toy Retailer Association) in Columbus, Ohio. It gave us a chance to show off games like Magical Kitties Save the Day to new markets, learn a bunch, and make connections in a parallel industry. Recycling and sustainability were hot topics at the show, and of speci...

Pro-tip: mix fine grain materials with materials with longer fibers to get a smooth but rigid material!

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- someone know what is mean "materials with longer fibers"?

Someone please inspire me with your log splitter injection mould machine builds! I'm brand new to this idea and concept and I'm really hoping someone has made a machine that can do 500g+ injections with that style of build. Thank you in advance!

Hey, does anyone know if precious plastic/one army is a non-profit or if they are for profit?

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MIfoodie

Hey, does anyone know if precious plastic/one army is a non-profit or if they are for profit?

One Army is a non-profit based in the Netherlands from what I've read.

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RoyalBodyButter

Someone please inspire me with your log splitter injection mould machine builds! I'm brand new to this idea and concept and I'm really hoping someone has made a machine that can do 500g+ injections with that style of build. Thank you in advance!

onl;y way you gonna get that is with a hybrid injection setup. extrude to another hot barrel then ram it home with a hydraulic piston. my log splitter gets a max 85 gram shot and consistent production is only 35 gram

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Dear Precious Plastic I am Manal Albutmah , Trochay initiative manager Trochay is an Environmental initiative based on recycling plastic bags by crocheting them and turning them into new sustainable products , hear is Trochay Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100089825832897 I hope you will like it , I am wondering how can yoy help me and how can we cooperate with each other . With all my respect Manal AlButmah

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Is there a #build Chanel still? Need some help with my cartridge heaters on a sheet press build

Hi I'm new over here

hi i was just wondering, is there a way to join project kamp at the moment?

https://projectkamp.com/support

Support Project Kamp

Support os with a donation, sponsor a project or come and help us out on the land. You can see all the tasks on support.projectkamp.com

oe interesting

You can sign up for the current season to help out or you can pre-sign for Season 4, which is April 2024!

its not only physical work right?

hello everyone

Hey! Newbie here

Hey hey

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anyone here

Hi, does anyone have blue print for 60mm screw

hi, this is for project kamp about feeding the soil. Last weekend I found you on you tube. There are different ways to use organic material: normal compost/compound, directly layers on the ground (mulching) and earth composting (making a small hole like a box and put different layers of organic material inside, finishing on top with soil). The last is good for the compost toilet material and/or for the later garden.

7:16 AM

Terra preta is also a good possibility to hold the nutrition and moisture in the pieces of burned wood. Add this to your compost toilet with some teaspoons of sugar and the chemical reaction will go another way (no smell at all).

7:19 AM

the not used parts of vegetables in the kitchen you can crushing in a blender, press the moister out of it and add it to the water for the garden and mi the rest 1:1 with soil and put it in the earth around your plants. that´s a good fertilizer.

7:23 AM

easy fertilizer: if you clean an area from grass, put the fresh green in a bucket an fill it with water. After one or two days put it to your plants.

7:28 AM

good to keep moisture: some bigger stones around your plants, special for the trees, you want support. Because of the different temperature between day and night the moisture from the air will condense on the rocks and give it to the soil. --love your doing and your way of living--

ukko

hi, this is for project kamp about feeding the soil. Last weekend I found you on you tube. There are different ways to use organic material: normal compost/compound, directly layers on the ground (mulching) and earth composting (making a small hole like a box and put different layers of organic material inside, finishing on top with soil). The last is good for the compost toilet material and/or for the later garden.

Hi @ukko seeing your message here. Do you see the kamp channels? Otherwise have a look at the start. You should be able to click on the project kamp badge to see the channels.

Hi Julie, I tried it yesterday. Have a nice day

Hi guys, so I am doing my Bachelor Thesis, and my team and I are building a recycling plant in Benin/ Africa integrating the precious plastic machines in the design process. A few times it was mentioned to us that although recycling plastic is a noble thing, in the long run, we are supporting the plastic industry to grow (using plastic supports the use of more plastic). As you can imagine we did not like such an accusation, and we are trying to develop a strategy for it. Let's say we have a program how to diminish plastic waste to a minimum, but we want to continue the function of the recycling plant as we are proposing it as an additional income for people there. Is it possible to upscale the machines when they should be not needed anymore so that they recycle material that is not so harmful for the environment - melting glas, metal or working with clay/adobe Will be very thankful for any response!

12:24 AM

And another question how feasible is to recycled plastic sheets as roofs in such a hot climate? Or as a facade if its covered

so i got a big problem here. Client ordered that big pile of 1x2 lumber and wanted it in 600mm size. This is the 4th production run for them. previous 3 runs, downpay, and no problem. This run, they got a new designer. Big hassle on the colors, wood plane finish, routered the corners. I had to buy a special color of recycled plastic pellet from the place across town.

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they would not do a downpayment this time, just sent a PO. Now they will not pay.

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I am stuck with a full week of work, plus I had to work myself on a Saturday my day off to do this order. And the pieces are short size.

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its been a few weeks now. sitting on this stuff. Basically there is close to 1500usd sitting here.

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Just goes to show that ALWAYS do a downpayment even if you been doing business for a long time

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Hi folks, I just watched the behind the scenes video from Project Camp, update #82. In it, Dave showed a MacBook that had the screen removed and was hooked up to an external monitor. Does anyone know how to do that? Is there a research module that goes over it? Thanks for any help!

A laptops monitor is usually just connected via a ribbon cable, if you disconnect that and connect an external monitor to a video out port (HDMI/lightning) it should work. Might not be as simple with a Mac, that's just how I would expect it to work with a windows/*nix setup.

Hey guys, happy Friday! I'm new here, and was wondering what software people use to draw out a space. I'm planning on doing some work to my garden but I want to measure it out and draw up some plans first. I noticed Dave using something in the early videos to draw out an area. Or even better do we have a resource of recommended useful programs / software?

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hello every one

looking for people i use to chat here with had to make a new acoount one was from ohio

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anybody on here buy regrind

Arlerks

Hey guys, happy Friday! I'm new here, and was wondering what software people use to draw out a space. I'm planning on doing some work to my garden but I want to measure it out and draw up some plans first. I noticed Dave using something in the early videos to draw out an area. Or even better do we have a resource of recommended useful programs / software?

InkScape, Draw.io, Fusion360 will do just fine. Otherwise, search for ´floor planner free´

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redog2006 started a thread. 6/24/2023 2:24 AM

Hello i want to build small building with plastic bricks

Zezo

Hello i want to build small building with plastic bricks

plastic brick is not very easy to mould so for a small building i don't think it's a good idea

JohnNephew

Anyhow...I thought this might be useful information for other Precious Plastics community members, who might be thinking about recycled plastic products marketed for kids in many countries.

Great insight. It seems the constraints you've spot lit preclude the use of post-consumer waste in toy manufacture, limiting plastic sourcing to consistent and documented industrial scrap.

Arlerks

Hey guys, happy Friday! I'm new here, and was wondering what software people use to draw out a space. I'm planning on doing some work to my garden but I want to measure it out and draw up some plans first. I noticed Dave using something in the early videos to draw out an area. Or even better do we have a resource of recommended useful programs / software?

Do you need to print out plans, or are you just looking to visualize the space? I use Fusion360, but the free version doesn't include plan printing. I think FreeCAD does. Not sure about SketchUp, or any architecture-specific solutions.

Zezo

Hello i want to build small building with plastic bricks

Check out this California-based company's indiscreet plastic brick building system: https://www.byfusion.com/byblock/

byfusion-wpadmin

ByBlock - ByFusion Global Inc.

Zezo

Hello i want to build small building with plastic bricks

Here's a segment from Just Have A Think on the ByBlock: https://youtu.be/kuWOFDEWMY8?t=165

Plastic doughnuts? Have you lost your mind!?

Mara123

And another question how feasible is to recycled plastic sheets as roofs in such a hot climate? Or as a facade if its covered

You do not need to solve the entire plastic economy problem. "What about" is ever the challenge by those who either 1) don't want to feel compelled to care or 2) feel helpless due to the scale of the problem and lack of individual power to impose a comprehensive solution. THE solution will be composed of many parts- but only if WE develop those parts; how they relate and integrate is a micro-macro relationship that must be determined together. That may feel like kicking the can down the road- it ain't! It's very much good and necessary to the mission that these considerations are in the forefront of your mind- but don't let a lack of answer or path paralyze action. Sadly, MOST ALL PLASTIC is destined for uncontrolled release into the environment, with the closest runner-up being incineration; utilizing this material doesn't have a feedback mechanism to the plastic producers unless virgin plastic is introduced into the mix; moreover, recycled plastic can actually SUPPLANT the demand for virgin plastic. In some utopian world, our collective understanding of the impacts of plastics would radically change our behavior as a society, broadly rejecting most new plastic production- but that ain't us; in the real world, the demand and liabilities are only increasing. (edited)

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Mara123

And another question how feasible is to recycled plastic sheets as roofs in such a hot climate? Or as a facade if its covered

I've grappled with a version of this same problem: if only a small fraction of plastic waste is diverted from landfills- say, 5%, post China rejecting the country as a destination -of that, only a TINY fraction is downcycled (8%) or recycled (2%)- most is incinerated, "lost" in transit, or just shuffled from one landfill to another. 10% OF 5% is almost nothing- 0.5%!!!. So, it seems to me, the most critical choice we make is WHAT we choose to recycle that fraction into- because if not a durable, value-added product, OUR PRODUCTION WILL JUST REENTER THE WASTE STREAM. I reckon most every Precious Plastic plastic carabiner, comb, and surfboard fin is destined to become trash again, where that tiny fraction of recycled waste will play the long odds AGAIN. The net diversion becomes meaningless. This isn't the case for everything we can choose to make, though: counter tops, wall paneling, construction materials, pavers, roof tiles- these things divert plastic from the waste stream for significant, indefinite periods. So, ARE you actually doing good? If you are reducing the demand for virgin plastic, I say yes. If your product is not of transient interest, ephemeral, or consumable, but durable, high value, and of enduring utility, I say yes. Our mission is to truly make plastic precious, adding significant value- not just trinkets. We need to be making things people will need to keep around for decades to come. (edited)

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Hi my names Ronan I am 20 year old irish lad . I'm currently based in the Netherlands and would like to help out/ volunteer at any precious plastic projects across Europe. I'm currently studying mechanical engineering have a great passion for all things plastics, renewable and batteries. If anyone me find somewhere that would be great.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

I've grappled with a version of this same problem: if only a small fraction of plastic waste is diverted from landfills- say, 5%, post China rejecting the country as a destination -of that, only a TINY fraction is downcycled (8%) or recycled (2%)- most is incinerated, "lost" in transit, or just shuffled from one landfill to another. 10% OF 5% is almost nothing- 0.5%!!!. So, it seems to me, the most critical choice we make is WHAT we choose to recycle that fraction into- because if not a durable, value-added product, OUR PRODUCTION WILL JUST REENTER THE WASTE STREAM. I reckon most every Precious Plastic plastic carabiner, comb, and surfboard fin is destined to become trash again, where that tiny fraction of recycled waste will play the long odds AGAIN. The net diversion becomes meaningless. This isn't the case for everything we can choose to make, though: counter tops, wall paneling, construction materials, pavers, roof tiles- these things divert plastic from the waste stream for significant, indefinite periods. So, ARE you actually doing good? If you are reducing the demand for virgin plastic, I say yes. If your product is not of transient interest, ephemeral, or consumable, but durable, high value, and of enduring utility, I say yes. Our mission is to truly make plastic precious, adding significant value- not just trinkets. We need to be making things people will need to keep around for decades to come. (edited)

Interesting :), I can can't comment on the numbers but perhaps : 'Our mission is to truly make plastic precious, adding significant value- not just trinkets' - I don't think it's our mission or even task. Many tried many failed, the resources needed outnumber the benefits. I'd rather say it's good exercise or 'mass experiment' to become a great maker, or whatever you want to be. Plenty of trades involved: science, automation, programming, ...

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Interesting :), I can can't comment on the numbers but perhaps : 'Our mission is to truly make plastic precious, adding significant value- not just trinkets' - I don't think it's our mission or even task. Many tried many failed, the resources needed outnumber the benefits. I'd rather say it's good exercise or 'mass experiment' to become a great maker, or whatever you want to be. Plenty of trades involved: science, automation, programming, ...

"Our" referred to my and Maria123's shared concern, and, more broadly, the core values and interest of the Precious Plastic movement. I have no use for nihilism, doom-sayers, and self-fulfilling pessimistic prognostication. I am not of-a-piece with your sentiment, nor, it seems any more part of the same community than Orville, Wilbur, and the hecklers proclaiming they'd never fly.

Mara123

Hi guys, so I am doing my Bachelor Thesis, and my team and I are building a recycling plant in Benin/ Africa integrating the precious plastic machines in the design process. A few times it was mentioned to us that although recycling plastic is a noble thing, in the long run, we are supporting the plastic industry to grow (using plastic supports the use of more plastic). As you can imagine we did not like such an accusation, and we are trying to develop a strategy for it. Let's say we have a program how to diminish plastic waste to a minimum, but we want to continue the function of the recycling plant as we are proposing it as an additional income for people there. Is it possible to upscale the machines when they should be not needed anymore so that they recycle material that is not so harmful for the environment - melting glas, metal or working with clay/adobe Will be very thankful for any response!

'Is it possible to upscale the machines when they should be not needed anymore', upscaling - currently not, but there are efforts to repurpose them. you could use them for food / bio materials, ... as next.

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i was thinking about the extruder turned into a nut braker. As far as i have checked it, taking in account nut cracker measurements in relation to the basic extruder this is possible.

One way to use the big water bottles, was spotted by me in the Balkans. They are used as a cheaper version of the spanish Ollas: Dig a hole next to the plan you want to irrigate. Make a few little holes into the lower part of the bottle and plant the bottle into the hole. Fill up the rest with soil. Now you can put water into the top of bottle, avoid evaporation of your water and lead the water directly to the lower part of the soil, where the roots should be.

SkinnyJimmy

One way to use the big water bottles, was spotted by me in the Balkans. They are used as a cheaper version of the spanish Ollas: Dig a hole next to the plan you want to irrigate. Make a few little holes into the lower part of the bottle and plant the bottle into the hole. Fill up the rest with soil. Now you can put water into the top of bottle, avoid evaporation of your water and lead the water directly to the lower part of the soil, where the roots should be.

New here but I saw something related to this online, just a "life hack" for keeping potted plants more alive, so putting another cup (the water bottle would work perfectly) in the soil and pouring water there so the soil actually absorbs the water and gets to the roots of the plants. In hotter climates the water bottle with a cap would be genious to stop evaporation. Also this method would probably work for potted plants and ground plants, and save water and get the water to the plants more efficiently maybe? Since by just watering the top sometimes the water stays at the top level of soil never getting to the roots before evaporating. Overall genious idea and great that ppl somewhere use it. Just have to check how the plastic interacts with the soil/ enviroment and plants, does it break down into microplastics etc.

Hello, how do I get into the German group?

SaraKem

Hello, how do I get into the German group?

https://discord.gg/xynSVTKt

Hi! I just bought a shredder from the bazar, I wanted to write a message to the seller but now it says page no found, company does not exist. do you know what can I do to resolve it?

question about the 2022 plastic impact statement. It says Philippines is 50 machines, that is for 2022 or since data collected? I know im well past 300 machines counting the shredder kits since 2019.

Butte (PP Philippines)

question about the 2022 plastic impact statement. It says Philippines is 50 machines, that is for 2022 or since data collected? I know im well past 300 machines counting the shredder kits since 2019.

Did you respond to the survey?

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Did you respond to the survey?

yes, same day i got the message to fill it out

On the report I see that precious plastics is also in South Africa. Is anyone here from South Africa??? Let's talk please.

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Hey hey these brands work with Precious Plastic workspaces around the world. People entering the survey reported working with them

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Thanks this is really helpful

Mattia

Hey hey these brands work with Precious Plastic workspaces around the world. People entering the survey reported working with them

Hello, how can we get partnered with precious plastics here in Malawi

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"What a pity"- how so?

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You should totally research the topic, interview the participants, and make a motivational video featuring those success stories. ("This message brought to you by 'Precious Plastic IS US- the folks who get stuff done!' ™ ") (I had luck by just Googling "Precious Plastics" + company name) (On the "I-am-we theme, the opened-sourced infrared plastic ID tool is on my list of 'things-I-need-make-happen-after-I-achieve-all-the-other-stuff-on-my-list-that-is-more-urgent'.") (edited)

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I've been scouring your archive (much thanks) of Dave Hakkens' old site and material scraped from the defunct PP Bulletin Board. (still distressed THAT was scraped for THIS- talk about Downcycling!!!) (edited)

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While I share the distaste I feel radiating off of you for those mega corps, we're just at the early adoption stage of incubating small scale manufacturing- surmounting inertia and building momentum is a HUGE success, even as what is produced may amount to more of the problem. The world junked in excess of 400 MILLION tons of plastic waste last year. (Edit) In 2022 alone, PP participants addressed more than 0.14875 of that year's liability. So, at today's waste rate, with a 1000 X multiple, we might actually start reducing plastic levels in the environment. That isn't bleak: participation has radically increased in just the last few years, and as success fires success, such outcome is actually within the realm of possibility. And as capacity increases, the QUALITY of what is produced will lead to greater retention/isolation from the waste stream. (edited)

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Is it "stuck" though? I can't discern that from the data released today, indicating about half of the plastic confronted by the community occurred last year. Does that reflect a steep curve trend, or just more reporting? I don't know. It seems to me you've nominated the primary entry hurtles: access to machines ("absence of tech") and finance. The machines and what they do don't require much imagination, but a thriving business is harder to imagine- so risking funds seems dangerous. Examples of success will help there, but fertile ground doesn't grow much without water- connecting the willing and capable to money would go a long way. Precious Plastics Micro Financing?

@Mattia With about half of the total plastic confronted by the PP community recorded last year, do you reckon that to be a clear indicator of a trend ramp steepening as the project flowers, or an artifact of better data and reporting?

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

You should totally research the topic, interview the participants, and make a motivational video featuring those success stories. ("This message brought to you by 'Precious Plastic IS US- the folks who get stuff done!' ™ ") (I had luck by just Googling "Precious Plastics" + company name) (On the "I-am-we theme, the opened-sourced infrared plastic ID tool is on my list of 'things-I-need-make-happen-after-I-achieve-all-the-other-stuff-on-my-list-that-is-more-urgent'.") (edited)

Like this? https://plasticscanner.com/

Jerry

Plastic Scanner. | Plastic Scanner

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NJ90210

Like this? https://plasticscanner.com/

plastell has somthing like that

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NJ90210

Like this? https://plasticscanner.com/

That's fantastic! Jerry de Vos is now officially my hero. I can now cross that off my to-do list- once I donate some cash ('cuz I ain't got no skill). You can do the same, here: https://donorbox.org/plastic-scanner

Plastic Scanner | Plastic Scanner (Powered by Donorbox)

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Alex_recycles and creates

plastell has somthing like that

No, they don't- they have a commercial product costing thousands of dollars. A real kick-in-the-teeth for a small-time operator.

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Christopher - Unmake Plastic

No, they don't- they have a commercial product costing thousands of dollars. A real kick-in-the-teeth for a small-time operator.

Some days ago, I asked for a quote. well, they a very good customer service team ( :

Ruben

Some days ago, I asked for a quote. well, they a very good customer service team ( :

Only 55,313.56 Mexican Peso- what a bargain.

When a company doesn't list the price of their products, this is what to expect. (edited)

I believe we asked these folks for a price at some point too.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Only 55,313.56 Mexican Peso- what a bargain.

When a company doesn't list the price of their products, this is what to expect. (edited)

you have to submit a quote and they make it

3:46 PM

its like asking a manufacturing company to make a part you send the drawing and the company sends you the price

Nah- it's like walking onto a car lot and the dealer assesses how much you paid for your shoes before figuring how much they can squeeze from you. (edited)

Hi, how do I join to the translators team? Thanks

this.random.shot

Hi, how do I join to the translators team? Thanks

Hi there! Join the #kamp-chat channel and send a message to @Bart

@this.random.shot -- hey Shot! Please reach out to me!

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Nah- it's like walking onto a car lot and the dealer assesses how much you paid for your shoes before figuring how much they can squeeze from you. (edited)

A lot of other machines like that cost over 10,000 dollars (edited)

Bart

@this.random.shot -- hey Shot! Please reach out to me!

Done

Alex_recycles and creates

A lot of other machines like that cost over 10,000 dollars (edited)

It's interesting though that they don't suggest a price in public. I can imagine a few reasons to do this:

Different prices for different customers
They make small batches or individual units to order and the cost of materials is both very high in relation to the selling price and very volatile
They are trying to get a sense of how many queries they get where people don't follow up after being told the price (as opposed to people who see a price on the website and invisibly fail to follow up with an order); this might help them scope out a potential market for larger production runs and lower unit cost and pricing

JohnNephew

It's interesting though that they don't suggest a price in public. I can imagine a few reasons to do this:

Different prices for different customers
They make small batches or individual units to order and the cost of materials is both very high in relation to the selling price and very volatile
They are trying to get a sense of how many queries they get where people don't follow up after being told the price (as opposed to people who see a price on the website and invisibly fail to follow up with an order); this might help them scope out a potential market for larger production runs and lower unit cost and pricing

Brothers make got one for free cause they work with them

Alex_recycles and creates

A lot of other machines like that cost over 10,000 dollars (edited)

For many, there is no practical difference between 10k and 2k. The first generations of the greater PP community, built heretofore on sub-industrial technology -are not their intended market. That the Brothers are a publicity opportunity for them doesn't change that. (edited)

Do any of these companies cross over with PP? https://all3dp.com/1/3d-print-recycling-services-guide/

3D Print Recycling Services – The Ultimate Guide

Send your 3D printed scrap to one of these services for a new life as recycled filament or useful plastic products.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

I've been scouring your archive (much thanks) of Dave Hakkens' old site and material scraped from the defunct PP Bulletin Board. (still distressed THAT was scraped for THIS- talk about Downcycling!!!) (edited)

the fault of he who shall not be named... because saying that name will summon the demon again...

Butte (PP Philippines)

the fault of he who shall not be named... because saying that name will summon the demon again...

Ah, yes- The Great Unknowable Cataclysm of the Before-Time! Enigmatic. Forbidden. All record fed to The Shredder... (edited)

Hello hello, I am surprised to find something I brought up long ago resurface with my name too. What's going on here?

nothing special - just doing some recap

Huh that could work. I'm don't know much about that form of business though. I'll have to look into it.

Anyone here knows what this means ? I thought plastics only went up to #7

Simbatheceo

Anyone here knows what this means ? I thought plastics only went up to #7

Manufactures use whatever symbols are useful to them- and omit those that aren't... such as the Resin Identification Codes.

Simbatheceo

Anyone here knows what this means ? I thought plastics only went up to #7

That plastic looks like HDPE blow. The number likely has more to do with some moulding identification.

Darren star always had great soundtrack to his productions

hi, I'm new here... I love project kamp

Hey guys, iam following the Project Kamp content on Youtube. I saw that you have a ton of Minosas. How do you guys produce hot water during the summer and especially during winter?

Hi I am looking to build a Bio Press but cannot find the usual plans for it on the PP website can you provide me with a link or help?

Hey guys, been following for a while and I was wondering if you guys are accepting more hands to help or if there is a screening of sorts, how does it work?

Michael

Hey guys, iam following the Project Kamp content on Youtube. I saw that you have a ton of Minosas. How do you guys produce hot water during the summer and especially during winter?

Hi @Michael at the moment our hot water gets heater with a gasheater and during the sunny days in winter we use the electric heater with the solar panels

DontwalkBoogie

Hi I am looking to build a Bio Press but cannot find the usual plans for it on the PP website can you provide me with a link or help?

https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/research/beyondplastic Download the Starter Kit with ALL the machines, then navigate to Research>Beyond Plastics The primary Downloads have been HIDDEN under "Universe"- not "Build", or even "How-To"- find 'em here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download (edited)

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Sink means Tanque, Old launder machine

For fire protection you can use Castanheiros to ( takes time to grow ) For that ruins you can make animals shelter, but it is a bit far way Onde os estrangeiros dão mais valor ao conhecimento local do que os políticos (edited)

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10:37 PM

Welcome to Portugal

Hey fellas, Is there a place to get merch for OneArmy and its projects? Id really fancy a new sticker on my laptop's lid

Max

Hey fellas, Is there a place to get merch for OneArmy and its projects? Id really fancy a new sticker on my laptop's lid

Visit their Patreon page- stickers for supporters.

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Good morning! Very new to this platform so I apologise if this question is in the wrong place. I have thousands of bottle tops with the silicone inserts. Can I still use these? My hope was to make plastic planks that I could then use to make garden beds. I would love your thoughts!

Cheryl

Good morning! Very new to this platform so I apologise if this question is in the wrong place. I have thousands of bottle tops with the silicone inserts. Can I still use these? My hope was to make plastic planks that I could then use to make garden beds. I would love your thoughts!

Silicone is a thermoset elastomer- these polymers set, and can't be remelted. They can be ground down and a fraction included in a new thermoset, though. What are your caps made out of?

2 and 4’s

Cheryl

2 and 4’s

I'll bet they have differing shrinkage rates- you might start by seeing if boiling will cause them to separate. That failing, do the work of separating one insert from its lid, and see if both float- in the event that their buoyancy differs, you could shred the caps, then separate the silicone by introducing the shred to an appropriate liquid medium.

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Thank you, I appreciate your knowledge!

Hi there! I can't see things on the map but the brand new pins. Is it correct?

Marco Olgiati

Hi there! I can't see things on the map but the brand new pins. Is it correct?

For what exactly? Precious Plastic map is working for me.

12:22 PM

Pins and if I tap on a pin it gives the information about it.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Pins and if I tap on a pin it gives the information about it.

Thanks. I can see details as you said but also without filters it shows me this...

12:28 PM

nothing else. I'm doing somethings wrong that I don't know. I'm newbie here.

Marco Olgiati

Thanks. I can see details as you said but also without filters it shows me this...

Huh what url are you using? Community.preciousplastic.com/map?

davehakkens

Huh what url are you using? Community.preciousplastic.com/map?

Yep! Correct.

12:54 PM

Maybe the browser?

12:57 PM

OK. Chrome hate me! With or without geo position authorization. (edited)

12:59 PM

Definitely better!

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As I read in the academy, some PP products can be used for food purposes. Is there research on how many microplastics they release compared to a classic product? Are they healthier or less healthy (or equal) than a non-recycled one?

Marco Olgiati

As I read in the academy, some PP products can be used for food purposes. Is there research on how many microplastics they release compared to a classic product? Are they healthier or less healthy (or equal) than a non-recycled one?

The comparative rate of degradation in recycled vs virgin plastic is specific to the constituents- that is, unique to every circumstance. A general answer wouldn't be meaningful. Mixing content may accelerate degradation. Some virgin plastics incorporate materials designed to promote degradation. Mechanically incorporating (shredding, melting) heavily degraded material impacts part quality. Conversely, recycled parts may be produced at temperatures and pressures that result in higher density, more robust parts than the recycled constituents. Specific to the beverage industry and industrial level recycling, some studies indicate elevated leaching of constituent chemicals into the contents over bottles made from virgin stock. Without doubt, plastic is best recycled into durable goods, and disposable "bads" should be eschewed entirely. Generally speaking, I don't favor putting anything plastic in my mouth or in contact with my food. (edited)

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Christopher - Unmake Plastic

The comparative rate of degradation in recycled vs virgin plastic is specific to the constituents- that is, unique to every circumstance. A general answer wouldn't be meaningful. Mixing content may accelerate degradation. Some virgin plastics incorporate materials designed to promote degradation. Mechanically incorporating (shredding, melting) heavily degraded material impacts part quality. Conversely, recycled parts may be produced at temperatures and pressures that result in higher density, more robust parts than the recycled constituents. Specific to the beverage industry and industrial level recycling, some studies indicate elevated leaching of constituent chemicals into the contents over bottles made from virgin stock. Without doubt, plastic is best recycled into durable goods, and disposable "bads" should be eschewed entirely. Generally speaking, I don't favor putting anything plastic in my mouth or in contact with my food. (edited)

Thanks for your clear answer. If I understand correctly: the release of microparticles is a specific feature of a kind of plastic regardless treatment or state of the surfaces. That give me peace over the PP (❤️ ) project but not over "plastic" in general!

I hope to sleep well next night!

(edited)

Marco Olgiati

Thanks for your clear answer. If I understand correctly: the release of microparticles is a specific feature of a kind of plastic regardless treatment or state of the surfaces. That give me peace over the PP (❤️ ) project but not over "plastic" in general!

I hope to sleep well next night!

(edited)

The take away should be: the degradation potential of recycled plastics is higher than virgin plastics, with the exception of processes or additives that promote stability; treatment and state of surfaces most definitely contribute to how much constituent is shed/released. Not unrelated, the entire recycling process absolutely produces microplastics as a byproduct, something that may be confronted by mitigation systems, such as water filtration and recycling, isolation of processes, such as wet shredding, and considered disposal of filter contents. THAT SAID, the amount of microplastics released into the environment by disposal is radically more than will ever be produced by the recycling process- metaphorically, this is akin to concern for fatal water intoxication when dying of thirst in the desert.

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You're right. Maybe I'am an idealist and my fear is to discover that the solution is more harmful than the problem. Thank you for your patience!

Hi. May I know who manages the Facebook page for Precious Plastics Philippines?

Yan

Hi. May I know who manages the Facebook page for Precious Plastics Philippines?

I reckon @Butte (PP Philippines) could tell 'ya- or you could just message PPP at their FB page. (Hummmm- seems like the obvious choice... maybe I shouldn't have gotten involved. Could be some sort of weird scam. Presuming good faith is so haaaaard. I guess we'll see...) (edited)

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

I reckon @Butte (PP Philippines) could tell 'ya- or you could just message PPP at their FB page. (Hummmm- seems like the obvious choice... maybe I shouldn't have gotten involved. Could be some sort of weird scam. Presuming good faith is so haaaaard. I guess we'll see...) (edited)

that is my page.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

I reckon @Butte (PP Philippines) could tell 'ya- or you could just message PPP at their FB page. (Hummmm- seems like the obvious choice... maybe I shouldn't have gotten involved. Could be some sort of weird scam. Presuming good faith is so haaaaard. I guess we'll see...) (edited)

well there has been some weird Chinese dude sniffing around, asking my neighbors about me the last few days, and he even showed up at my gate demanding to inspect my shop. told him to get bent. He l iterally said "I am here to inspect your property" (edited)

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NIZzvzmzCXk getting the shop organized to bring in 3 units of 10hp extrusion machines.

getting the shop organized #preciousplastic

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Butte (PP Philippines)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NIZzvzmzCXk getting the shop organized to bring in 3 units of 10hp extrusion machines.

Ha-ha-ha-ha! -you just moved for more space, and it looks like your pace of development will mean you will be moving again, sooner than later! The curse of success!

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Ha-ha-ha-ha! -you just moved for more space, and it looks like your pace of development will mean you will be moving again, sooner than later! The curse of success!

probably build another building on the leased space. Maybe just a steel shed with a lot of precious plastic lumber trim.

Butte (PP Philippines)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NIZzvzmzCXk getting the shop organized to bring in 3 units of 10hp extrusion machines.

Nice set up! Keep It going !

hello everyone i just wanted to now what exactly this ngo does and like if i donate plastic what will happen to it

AJ998

hello everyone i just wanted to now what exactly this ngo does and like if i donate plastic what will happen to it

It would be recycled in an awesome way, with different process, taken care by persons who care about enviorement, creating beautiful & last longing products... keeprecycling Clean your plástics before donating

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and will they come and collect the plastic waste

I think you guys need a fire extinguisher for your storage it's very important. You have gasoline inside of it so if it's gets a fire all your equipment are will gone

11:25 AM

@Mattia

11:26 AM

@acoira

Hey @KensWege I think I am missing the context?

i just watch last youtube video and i cant see any fire extinguisher tube

11:55 AM

fire extinguisher is important for warehouse

@KensWege for the project kamp chat you can use #kamp-chat tag dave and julie along with acoira they’re the permanent members of the kamp

12:36 PM

also very good detail you noticed there

AJ998

and will they come and collect the plastic waste

Keep in mind that Precious Plastics means two things: an organization that designs and shares plans/information about micro-scale plastics recycling; and a community of people and companies who use that information and equipment in their local regions. The former is definitely NOT going to come and collect plastic waste from you. The latter MIGHT -- it depends on where you are, how close you are to someone who is collecting and processing plastic, and whether you can work out some arrangement with them. (edited)

Julie

Hi @Michael at the moment our hot water gets heater with a gasheater and during the sunny days in winter we use the electric heater with the solar panels

Hi Julie, thank you for your feedback! I noticed through the content on youtube that you guys have an excessive amount of wood from the mimosa trees. Maybe the concept of a "Biomeiler" is a possible/interesting approach to use the resource in a way to generate hot water/house heating. A concept that would fit into the Kamp project and is usually not so well known. I share some links and also added a basic sketch of how this works. https://biomeiler.nl/model-for-a-heating-system-equipped-with-a-biomeiler-and-a-heat-pump/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDr96MWZdJc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ric-EkF6M Best from Switzerland, Michael

Gerhard Weißhäupl

Bio Meiler

Native Power

Ausführliche Erklärung zum Aufbau des Biomeilers.

PLS send me money $1 helps im broke (btw love your vids)VU6Y7M4QYX7MW

@davehakkens regarding the “hole” in the middle of your land… https://tenor.com/1h8l.gif

5:47 PM

And the “hole” itself:

Hi, I'm new on the chat, I'd like to know if the home made plastic shreder could be used to shred fabric; in case it does not shred fabric, do you know if I could make some modifications to make it viable?

Hi there, this is Dilzar form Kurdistan region, Iraq , I am new in recycling process , I have bought several machines and want to start recycling water bottles, I have shredder, dryer and Cnc machine to create mold, what injection moulding machine you recommend that I can Inject pet material

ZachAWill

Hi, I'm new on the chat, I'd like to know if the home made plastic shreder could be used to shred fabric; in case it does not shred fabric, do you know if I could make some modifications to make it viable?

i got it to shred fabric with a diesel engine on the v3. i do not think the machine shredding cloth will last for a long time without using hardened steel

Hi, I wanted to ask if someone succeeds to make a cup from recycled coffee grounds? like the video "Build a Bio Press (part 8.1)" I would be happy for a small consultation. Thank you a lot

wird

5:57 PM

here comunty is so nice

5:57 PM

no swearing no chat spaming

5:57 PM

i like it

Hi there.

6:14 PM

I'm new to the precious plastic community, I would like to know if it is possible to shred the plastic before washing it?

barneaplast

I'm new to the precious plastic community, I would like to know if it is possible to shred the plastic before washing it?

Post-shred washing, following a rinse of soiled material, is a common strategy for cleaning plastic, enabling the use of machines such as these: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/ws---10 There is a space here dedicated to washing.

WS - 1.0

With this Washing System it is possible to clean dirty shredded plastic with a closed loop system that filters the water so it can be reused for a longer period of time. It works best if you shred your plastic first into big flakes, so you can insert a more uniform batch of plastic into the washing system, where high pressure water jets blast ...

barneaplast

Hi there.

This article also talks about pre or post shred washing, and the washer development: https://community.preciousplastic.com/research/clean-plastic-more-efficiently--

Clean plastic more efficiently?

Currently plastic is often washed by hand at precious plastic groups. We want to see if we can develop some machine or process that makes cleaning plastic less manual and more consistent.

hello

hey

I feel like my weekly entertainment revolves on Project Kamp on Monday and D&D on Wednesdays.

After 3 months working outdoors and welding under a tarp, we finally got a roof over the machine fabrication area. We got lucky and found a large amount of discounted galvanized roofing steel for sale at the used lumber store up the street from our shop. We set the posts in concrete last week, and today it was a race against time to put this up before the afternoon monsoon rain came. 3 hours from start to this pic.

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Butte (PP Philippines)

After 3 months working outdoors and welding under a tarp, we finally got a roof over the machine fabrication area. We got lucky and found a large amount of discounted galvanized roofing steel for sale at the used lumber store up the street from our shop. We set the posts in concrete last week, and today it was a race against time to put this up before the afternoon monsoon rain came. 3 hours from start to this pic.

You made good time. Are the monsoons not too windy?

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Argent

You made good time. Are the monsoons not too windy?

not really, just a lot of rain, usually a few hours a day, sometimes a few days at a time.

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On Tuesday I was doing something at school I was drawing landscapes like a forest and a mountain range and in the clouds I added PK for project kamp because this project is my favourite

Butte (PP Philippines)

After 3 months working outdoors and welding under a tarp, we finally got a roof over the machine fabrication area. We got lucky and found a large amount of discounted galvanized roofing steel for sale at the used lumber store up the street from our shop. We set the posts in concrete last week, and today it was a race against time to put this up before the afternoon monsoon rain came. 3 hours from start to this pic.

I think you can make some kind water collectimg system for plastic cleaning

7:50 PM

Took me 20 min to make the tent frame from project camp vid.. (edited)

7:52 PM

Oh, sorry forgot to introduce my self. I'm an architect named Mo and have been watching project camp from the beginning. I also use to watch precious plastic from the beginning.. (edited)

7:55 PM

Wanted to share this interesting podcast that discussed the plastics market https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9jYW5laWNvcnAucG9kb21hdGljLmNvbS9yc3MyLnhtbA/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucG9kb21hdGljLmNvbS9wb2RjYXN0cy9jYW5laWNvcnAvZXBpc29kZXMvMjAyMy0wMi0wOVQwNF8xMV80MS0wOF8wMA?ep=14

The Plastic Recycling Update - Episode 3: The Plastic Recycling Upd...

In this episode of Plastic Recycling Update, discover the underlying reasons behind the cost of prime & recycled plastic products. Our guest, Howard Rappaport, an industry expert, will shed light on the key factors that determine plastic pricing. We'll explore the distinctions between virgin and recycled plastic prices, the trend toward risk m...

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MASE

Click to see attachment 🖼️

looks cool. I was thinking how cool to be making market stand with plastic somehow

Eltsu19

I think you can make some kind water collectimg system for plastic cleaning

we dont wash our plastic anymore. just shred and straight into lumber

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has anyone tried using rosin presses to compression mold plastics?

Eltsu19

looks cool. I was thinking how cool to be making market stand with plastic somehow

Everything is possible..

getting the plastic lumber molds organized today. built some racking from scrap angle bar. Building a model Precious Plastic plastic lumber factory. This will be our showroom to sell the starter kits. the window grate in the background is the leftover steel plate from making the v3 shredders. Nothing goes to waste. (edited)

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MASE

Everything is possible..

true

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Post-shred washing, following a rinse of soiled material, is a common strategy for cleaning plastic, enabling the use of machines such as these: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/ws---10 There is a space here dedicated to washing.

hi thanks

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Hi my name is dirk. i am new here. live in a big city - singapore - and crave nature and craftmanship.

5:22 PM

nice to meet you all

Has anyone come across a machine called PlasTell?? It identifies what kind of plastic something is and I would love to see one in action in Australia!!

10:57 AM

could anyone help me point out with which drawing software and hardware this is made?

preferablyHi! My name is Maria Rafalovich and I would like to start an initiative that inspires teenagers and students to tackle climate change. An initiative that not only informs young people about climate change problems but also encourages them to look for possible solutions. I am looking for enthusiasts in Europe (preferable Netherlands, Belgium, Spain but not only) who would be interested in starting an initiative like this. Please feel free to reach me via: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maria-rafalovich/

Paasie

Click to see attachment 🖼️

https://youtu.be/R-qZBVlsq0Y

Project Kamp - Start prototyping another way of living

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3:19 PM

closest thing i can provide

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3:19 PM

probably hand drawn and scanned

3:19 PM

‍♂️

3:20 PM

lets ask dave

Paasie

could anyone help me point out with which drawing software and hardware this is made?

@davehakkens

thank u all

Software > photoshop Hardware > a computer

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Computers these days are so cool, they can do so much!

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I count around 100 new Patreon supporters in the last 2 weeks- that's a minimum rate of $571 USD per day!

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Cheryl

Has anyone come across a machine called PlasTell?? It identifies what kind of plastic something is and I would love to see one in action in Australia!!

Here is one in Sydney's Northern Beaches area: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvHlzPXg_jg/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Piers

Here is one in Sydney's Northern Beaches area: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CvHlzPXg_jg/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Thanks so much for the lead!!

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where can I get a business proposal to sell a plastic recycling factory idea to investors?

currylove

where can I get a business proposal to sell a plastic recycling factory idea to investors?

Few options: (i'm not trying to be rude) 1. Make one 2. Have AI make you one 3. Pay or Ask someone to make one for you I'm lazy. I'd go with number 2. Have a look at https://chat.openai.com/ and enter a proper prompt and you'll likely have something useful to work with. Do not just copy and paste everything. Be sure to go over everything and ask additional questions and put in additional information. Revise revise revise. Check with friends or someone in the community.

ChatGPT

A conversational AI system that listens, learns, and challenges

3:19 PM

^---quite a powerful tool when used right. I've had it give me some contradictive responses in the same paragraph. So that's why i'm really emphasizing that you need to check over whatever it generates. Consider adding information like the cost of equipment, upkeep, rent, training, salary, maximum expected machine output values, cost of materials, and whatever you think is relevant.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Few options: (i'm not trying to be rude) 1. Make one 2. Have AI make you one 3. Pay or Ask someone to make one for you I'm lazy. I'd go with number 2. Have a look at https://chat.openai.com/ and enter a proper prompt and you'll likely have something useful to work with. Do not just copy and paste everything. Be sure to go over everything and ask additional questions and put in additional information. Revise revise revise. Check with friends or someone in the community.

no offense taken. Seems like having AI help to draft me one is the best option. Had taken time to draft one which was rejected and was asked to do it again

currylove

no offense taken. Seems like having AI help to draft me one is the best option. Had taken time to draft one which was rejected and was asked to do it again

It helps to know what the investors are looking for, it's always a good idea to tailor things to your audience. Good luck! Hopefully this saves you a bunch of time!

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Would love your opinion on this: If you would choose another city / region to live, would you be influenced by the climate crisis? Background for the question: I found my dream place to live, however it is a really dry region (low groundwater level), hence I am concerned that its a bad choice to move. Project Kamp also didnt move despite a huge fire hazard risk.

Personally, I live in Belgium. We thought to migrate to Spain long time ago. Nowadays, we clearly revised our plans and exclude all destinations in Europe where it is predictable that in 2030/2040 they will be dry most of the year. I think that relocalizing food production is one of the major element of the solution to make the humanity survive. So migrating to place and investing now in land where it will be hard to produce food in near future is for me not a good idea.

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Geoffrey

Personally, I live in Belgium. We thought to migrate to Spain long time ago. Nowadays, we clearly revised our plans and exclude all destinations in Europe where it is predictable that in 2030/2040 they will be dry most of the year. I think that relocalizing food production is one of the major element of the solution to make the humanity survive. So migrating to place and investing now in land where it will be hard to produce food in near future is for me not a good idea.

But that's only a prediction not actually facts so it could not happen

The climate of a planet is a system with a huge inertia. Whatever we do (even if humanity would completely disappear right now), the general trends are highly predictable because the effect what we do today will only start to affect that trends in 40 or 50 years. To make a parallel: if you heat some water using an electric hob, it is easy to predict that at some point it will boil and more or less when. But it is nearly impossible to predict where and when the bubbles will emerge in the water mass. And even if you stop the hob and temperature is yet near 100°C, it will boil anyway.

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Geoffrey

Personally, I live in Belgium. We thought to migrate to Spain long time ago. Nowadays, we clearly revised our plans and exclude all destinations in Europe where it is predictable that in 2030/2040 they will be dry most of the year. I think that relocalizing food production is one of the major element of the solution to make the humanity survive. So migrating to place and investing now in land where it will be hard to produce food in near future is for me not a good idea.

thanks for your reply!

11:37 AM

If I would take it into consideration 100% I think I´d move to Norway. But I guess i could not afford it. Here an index https://gain.nd.edu/our-work/country-index/rankings/

Rankings // Notre Dame Global Adaptation Initiative // University o...

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TonyLovesSustainability

But that's only a prediction not actually facts so it could not happen

Desertification of southern Europe is an ongoing process though.. Northern Portugal and Spain may be good but definitely good to dive into what the latest climate science and models are saying about this

Sourcing parts is THE WORST part of a project.

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See #Fixingfashion in CODA museum

11:50 AM

Fixingfashion

11:51 AM

I saw Alicia’s video there

11:51 AM

This extra-ordinary effort remains stuck in by brain. https://youtu.be/ku3btzZyBPA Though beautiful, it is not the boat and the massive amount of plastic captured making it that has me enthralled. While delighted and filled with wonder by the integration of plastic and traditional skills, it is more than just seeing a path illuminated, or novelty. The real joy here- the thing that fills my chest with emotion - is the communal participation. All these hands coming together to realize a vision, a common purpose, aspiring for a better world- this is what success looks like. This is what hope looks like. Not passive hope, but hope from action- the spirit firing every person drawn to the Precious Plastic movement -that WE can be the change.

Build a canoe from plastic waste

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hi! how do i link my patreon?

bootlegramen

hi! how do i link my patreon?

As I recall, that is an option within the Patreon account. Patreon>Settings>More>Connected Apps

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What are the current needs for the dev crew?

hey i just saw your new video on youtube and thougt about your poop and energy challenges what about some of these biogasplant? like these

3:15 PM

https://landing.homebiogas.com/booster/?campaign=GG_DE-Search&adgroup=Biogas_Digester&utm_country=9043765&utm_term=biogas%20generator&utm_campaign=US-Search&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&hsa_acc=2584821239&hsa_cam=18996499337&hsa_grp=145369549122&hsa_ad=666990811865&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-2555931541&hsa_kw=biogas%20generator&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6Yr-qYe-gAMVBZWDBx0OGAdcEAAYASAAEgLiffD_BwE

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they can make up to 30kg of human poop into engery every day

Hello! I ran a project in the UK for 8 years rescuing food that supermarkets were throwing away & redistributed it to the local community...671 Tonnes of food rescued & we fed 145,000 people... I'm currently backpacking Portugal & notice no charity shops or food redistribution centres. I see big supermarkets in the bigger districts & wonder if anyone has insight into what is happening with the surplus food here? Reading of some great activism here...very inspiring...one love

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Reviewing PP research documents just now, came across one titled "Turn Precious Plastic into a DAO" (Decentralized Autonomous Organization). What does that mean? It means us- you and me -picking up the baton and running it down the track. A few years back, @davehakkens had some notions and curiosity and motives that were so enticing other folks answered his Pied-Piper call. With a bunch of unseen-by-me work, that nucleus inspired folks in the broader community to fund an enterprise incubator, in which many of the refined versions of the PP machine kit and techniques were developed by... well... an army of people. Those folks built the metaphorical boat, then showed others how to build it, sail it, fund it, etc, etc- before setting sail themselves. My initial reaction to Project Kamp was "how does that help PP?" Well, it doesn't. Nor need it. Some of the parents of PP raised it to maturity and left- as is natural. Some 'stuck around', fostering still more development. The blossoming of the PP movement speaks to the success of the DAO scheme, and all the foresight and work that went into building that success. Of course, all of that would be little more than a moment in time without you seizing the opportunity and running with it. So, while burning down the track, I take a moment to reflect on where the PP movement came from, how it got here, where I want it to go... and what I will build for the communal voyage. I ordered parts today for a machine that may not work. I'm reminded of @jasonknight's toil on the Sheet Press Oven. The WHAT? All his efforts led to another path entirely. Rest-in-peace, Sheet Press Oven- until reborn, in some other place, for some other reason, when picked up, and ran with... down the as-yet unknown path. (edited)

References from my preceding bloviation- the DAO: https://community.preciousplastic.com/research/turn-precious-plastic-into-a-dao Sheet Press Oven: https://davehakkens.nl/community/forums/topic/sheet-press-mould-oven/index.html The 112: https://preciousplastic.com/people/version/four.html

Turn Precious Plastic into a DAO

Looking into transitioning Precious Plastic into a DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization).

Sheet Press Mould Oven - Dave Hakkens

Hello Community! This is my first topic, woop woop! I am taking the lead on designing an oven which will be part of the sheet pressing system. I am working Read more...

Precious Plastic Version 4 Team

Meet the people and supporters behind Precious Plastic Version 4

I am a very persistent person and id love to help with 3d things remotely... (edited)

I recently got the book "Houses That Can Save The World" and Precious Plastic is mentioned on page 197

it mentions the bricks in the "Reuse" section.

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anyone know how to make plastic foams

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like how you make foam from pla with sodium bicarbonate

9:15 PM

will it just foam up if I mix ground plastic and sodium bicarbonate together on a pan and melt it as a sheet

Dlanm2u

will it just foam up if I mix ground plastic and sodium bicarbonate together on a pan and melt it as a sheet

That sounds really interesting! I hope someone chimes in with more information!

Dlanm2u

will it just foam up if I mix ground plastic and sodium bicarbonate together on a pan and melt it as a sheet

It might create bubbles but i don't think it'll foam. Heres some research snippet you can have a look at. I haven't found any other references to what you're asking about. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Polylactide-PLA-micromolded-samples-loaded-with-10-wt-of-sodium-carbonate-a-b_fig1_341038053

I have a quick question, what camera do you guys use to shoot the project kamp videos?

karper

I have a quick question, what camera do you guys use to shoot the project kamp videos?

They discussed this in a video. I am trying to find that video for you now. It's a mix of GoPro and iirc Canon

karper

I have a quick question, what camera do you guys use to shoot the project kamp videos?

I think they said a bunch of GoPros, a couple Sony ZV1s, and a DJI Maverick Pro drone

karper

I have a quick question, what camera do you guys use to shoot the project kamp videos?

you can watch it in episode #82 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq1cpMN4m2E

Project Kamp

#82 Behind the scenes in Project Kamp

Tincho

you can watch it in episode #82 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq1cpMN4m2E

Ah good find! I was searching the update videos for it

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Thanks guys, I'll watch the video right now

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What a hulpfull community

i think this would be a nice add on just dropping this here and leaving :3 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NyqXwiT9QHU?feature=share

Acorn Land Labs

Infinite Chicken Feed? # shorts

Hello

SystemConfig

i think this would be a nice add on just dropping this here and leaving :3 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NyqXwiT9QHU?feature=share

I’d heard of this. Seems super interesting.

Cc

Philippines... sigh... returnable glass bottle, and they pour it in a plastic bag to drink with a straw... (edited)

Butte (PP Philippines)

Philippines... sigh... returnable glass bottle, and they pour it in a plastic bag to drink with a straw... (edited)

Let me guess, the shop wants to get their deposit back for the bottles and don't trust kids to return the bottles to them?

Hello, I am looking at getting a heat press for make small sheets of hdpe and pp. Any reccomendations? Something like this:

VEVOR is awesome.

10:54 PM

No idea about plastics.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Let me guess, the shop wants to get their deposit back for the bottles and don't trust kids to return the bottles to them?

and people too cheap to pay the deposit in the first place

Butte (PP Philippines)

and people too cheap to pay the deposit in the first place

Over here the deposit isn't government regulated, however it's regulated by the distributor. So if you buy a crate of 24 bottled drinks for the first time you pay a little extra. When you order a new crate, the price is a little cheaper because the glass bottles are returned. I have a feeling it's like this in most of the world.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Over here the deposit isn't government regulated, however it's regulated by the distributor. So if you buy a crate of 24 bottled drinks for the first time you pay a little extra. When you order a new crate, the price is a little cheaper because the glass bottles are returned. I have a feeling it's like this in most of the world.

same here, deposit from coke or the beer company. although I was told by a Coke executive here when we was organizing the international coastal cleanup last year, that they have to re-use the glass a minimum of 6 times or it will cost more than plastic. lately they have been losing money on returnable glass because people are so casually throwing away deposit bottles. Which I can attest as my new shop space had thousands of returnable deposit bottles thrown away in a pile. We collected them and returned for a tidy sum.

PreciousPlasticCork

Hello, I am looking at getting a heat press for make small sheets of hdpe and pp. Any reccomendations? Something like this:

We use something similar to make sheets about 12" by 12". It heats only one side so you need to turn it. Also I like to use metal sheets (aluminum or steel) to press the plastic and conduct heat. Let the sheets cool under pressure.

Does anyone know how a simple person who really is on a tight budget ( i live on disability ) can take pla scrap and remelt it as safetly as possible to recycle it into new things?? I see stuff all the time but its not about pla so i dont know if the same methods would work.

Des804

Does anyone know how a simple person who really is on a tight budget ( i live on disability ) can take pla scrap and remelt it as safetly as possible to recycle it into new things?? I see stuff all the time but its not about pla so i dont know if the same methods would work.

You should be able to use much the same techniques for PLA as you would for HDPE or PP, but you'll want to use lower temperatures. I would also suggest being careful about sourcing to make sure it really is PLA and not for example another popular 3D printer filament resin.

The pla filament i buy is only from well known sources of good quality and its basic thank you

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And I would have thought higher temp instead of lower since plas best melting point is 210% C for the stuff i use..

Des804

Does anyone know how a simple person who really is on a tight budget ( i live on disability ) can take pla scrap and remelt it as safetly as possible to recycle it into new things?? I see stuff all the time but its not about pla so i dont know if the same methods would work.

There’s loads of these videos https://youtube.com/shorts/fzWq37FUt8M?feature=share

Let's make

make filament #shorts #diy

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CryptoMike365

There’s loads of these videos https://youtube.com/shorts/fzWq37FUt8M?feature=share

https://youtu.be/Eecbdb0bQWQ

mr3dp

How to Make free & easy filament for 3D printer at home

yeah Im not trying to remake filament from the Pla or make filament from bottles because I dont have space for the machines to do either of those

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but yeah Ive seen those and its cool to be able to do that

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Im looking to take the PLA waste from 3d printing stuff melting it and putting it into Block molds or other ideas like that so I can use the scraw for projects that would be useful

Think you have to grind it up somehow. This might also be useful https://www.onearmy.earth/project/precious-plastic

https://youtu.be/v-JlT3EZ1uo

The alternative plastic recycling system run by thousands of people around the world using knowledge that are shared free and open source online.

Buster Beagle 3D

Recycle 3D Prints and other Plastics at Home | Plastic Shredding | ...

https://youtu.be/WUcZyOWUzcY

Tylman Design

PET-Machine, make Your own 3D printer filament from plastic bottles...

yeah I plan on grinding it down

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and yah I saw the one about using a blender

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I did however find the YT video I had been looking for that used a toaster oven so I might try that and then just press mold it into blocks or sheets

hola

does anyone have designing formulas for the extruder screws ?

Wait wrong discord channel

LeShawi

does anyone have designing formulas for the extruder screws ?

@You may have better luck with this question over at the Machine channel - find it here: https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/598887270636060694 (edited)

I have no access to that channel

LeShawi

I have no access to that channel

If you can't see/access the Machines section, go back to here: https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/966982406445858836 and follow the instructions. Click on the "Hands" and "Unicorn" icons. (edited)

Hi i'm new to discord and to this group. I'm looking for people from Varsinais-Suomi Finland to join my preciousplastic journey. Currently i'm developing makerspace to Tarvasjoki and interested on making preciousplastic machienery and products. Is there anyone who would like to join me with this. Also If anyone could recommend where on onearmy server i should apply my request to get people to join me?

Hello everyone I was wondering if anyone knew if the Shredder, Sheetpress, Extruder, and Injector V4.x machines use 1 or 3-phase power supply

I suppose that depends on the builder. Keep in mind, the power demands of Shredder Pro coupled to a worthy motor and the Sheet Press are hefty. I viewed a large, single phase Sheet Press yesterday that was fed by two 50 amp 220 circuits. If you review the bill of materials for the basic shredder, 3 phase isn't specified; for the Pro, it is- though I've heard of folks building 'em for single phase. (edited)

Hi guys! Hope you're all well. I'm new to the server and was wondering if anyone knew where to find the CAD files mentioned at the end of this video? Thanks! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yAhP06xTOZg

Project Kamp

#22 Installing solar panels on a 20ft shipping container. OFF GRID

i tried checking the project kamp website but couldn't find it :/

DaPerales

Hello everyone I was wondering if anyone knew if the Shredder, Sheetpress, Extruder, and Injector V4.x machines use 1 or 3-phase power supply

As @Christopher - Unmake Plastic said, it depends on the builder. Usually it's like this Single phase: Shredder Extrusion Injection Three phase: Shredder pro Extrusion pro Sheet press

4:00 PM

All on one phase? All on 3 phase? All on split phase? These are all possible, but stick to the wiring diagrams if possible or if you need to modify and are not sure, just ask.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

As @Christopher - Unmake Plastic said, it depends on the builder. Usually it's like this Single phase: Shredder Extrusion Injection Three phase: Shredder pro Extrusion pro Sheet press

The sheet press requires 3 phase power ?

Fatih

i tried checking the project kamp website but couldn't find it :/

Same

, maybe they weren't uploaded after all?

Alex_recycles and creates

The sheet press requires 3 phase power ?

See Ben's comment, directly above your question.

Alex_recycles and creates

The sheet press requires 3 phase power ?

If you follow the schematics from Precious Plastic, yes. I can go into more detail if you like. I have a habit if answering questions like this with way more info than what was asked for.

Hey

2:07 PM

How do I join the patreons only?

Link your Patreon to Discord on the Patreon website I believe?

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hey how's it going? I wanted to know if you guys paint the pet bottle and make filament for the 3d printer with the painted color (edited)

yoyo161600

Same

, maybe they weren't uploaded after all?

check the download kit on the website if you haven't already not sure if it's what you are looking for but who knows https://community.projectkamp.com/academy/support/download

Project Kamp Community

A platform for the Project Kamp community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to figure out how to live more sustainably

hey how's it going? I wanted to know if you guys paint the pet bottle and make filament for the 3d printer with the painted color

Flowz

hey how's it going? I wanted to know if you guys paint the pet bottle and make filament for the 3d printer with the painted color

I've not done it myself, but I've seen experiments with rit dye for synthetics, I've also seen permanent marker coloring. Find the 3D printing channel?

NJ90210

I've not done it myself, but I've seen experiments with rit dye for synthetics, I've also seen permanent marker coloring. Find the 3D printing channel?

Do you have de link or the name? The part of permanet marker coloring, i`ve seing this before but i didn't like that color

Flowz

Do you have de link or the name? The part of permanet marker coloring, i`ve seing this before but i didn't like that color

Off the top of my head, check for Recreator 3D Colorizer. I think talk of fabric dye was either in the Facebook or discord group.

NJ90210

Off the top of my head, check for Recreator 3D Colorizer. I think talk of fabric dye was either in the Facebook or discord group.

Thank you man

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Hi! has anyone tried using an injection machine on PET plastics? Extremely curious!

I want to start a Precious Plastic call-in Live Stream. Let me get a thumbs up if you would watch/call in!

I was wondering if anyknow knows the Compression Ratio on the Extruder Pro model, or if anyone has CAD files of the extruder screw.

Foge

I was wondering if anyknow knows the Compression Ratio on the Extruder Pro model, or if anyone has CAD files of the extruder screw.

Hey! You can find information on the Extruder Pro model here https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/extrusionpro @Carolina maybe you can also help here?

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Foge

I was wondering if anyknow knows the Compression Ratio on the Extruder Pro model, or if anyone has CAD files of the extruder screw.

here you go

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Plastic_Screw_extruder_v1.stp

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170304PlasticScrewextruderv1-Model.pdf

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Hi, is there anyone with experience with PA-PE recycling? Being food packaging I would also need to find an effective way to wash it. Thank you for your time

I want to know what is bad about the azores?

BananaMassacre

I want to know what is bad about the azores?

Things are probably expensive. Limited access to goods and services. Medical being probably the big one. These are just guesses, not informed statements.

Hi I am building a container workshop and am trying to put some double doors in its side, do you have plans for this

Balgur

Things are probably expensive. Limited access to goods and services. Medical being probably the big one. These are just guesses, not informed statements.

people dont talk about but thehousing in hawaii is expenive and if you go to the cities youll see really shitty looking slums, ugly houses all over the place, and everyone is fat and super tan. but hawaii brings in so many tourists

Hello guys, do you know why or how long the bazar Website is down?

Jambilo

Hello guys, do you know why or how long the bazar Website is down?

#website-problems is the better place to ask this

GDLP

Hi, is there anyone with experience with PA-PE recycling? Being food packaging I would also need to find an effective way to wash it. Thank you for your time

PA-PE? First time I've heard of this. It sounds like multilayer plastic with layers of plastic and something else, maybe aluminium? If it's plastic and aluminium like what you'd find with a bag of chips/crisps/snack bags, I've extruded these successfully. Washing can be done in a variety of ways but it depends on your budget. Old washing machine? Bucket and mixing attachment on a drill? Always use some detergent to help break down oils and fats.

Hey! Anyone already tried to upcycle plastic coffee capsules? I think has PBT plastic and some aluminium

Natan

Hey! Anyone already tried to upcycle plastic coffee capsules? I think has PBT plastic and some aluminium

Like Keurig K-cups? If so yes. They are polypropylene. Ones with powdered drinks like hot cocoa are easiest. Coffee grounds and filters are more effort to clean.

Does anyone think that PP will fix their broken Bazar site? It's been down for days.

someone dropped by today. has one metric ton per week of polyester fabric scraps to dispose of. any ideas? it is not water absorbent. it is the sports jersey material. so it can not be made into any sort of cloth rag. labor costs are too much due to the material being irregular shapes to sew back together for eco shopping bags.

JohnNephew

Like Keurig K-cups? If so yes. They are polypropylene. Ones with powdered drinks like hot cocoa are easiest. Coffee grounds and filters are more effort to clean.

we manually peeled the foil off, washed and made into a bunch of stuff. but in the end it was not really cost effective even with our low labor cost

Butte (PP Philippines)

someone dropped by today. has one metric ton per week of polyester fabric scraps to dispose of. any ideas? it is not water absorbent. it is the sports jersey material. so it can not be made into any sort of cloth rag. labor costs are too much due to the material being irregular shapes to sew back together for eco shopping bags.

Why not take it to 280F then treat it like PET?

NJ90210

Why not take it to 280F then treat it like PET?

PET 3D prints around 230ish

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Hi everyone, I have a problem of mixing color in when using the injection. There is no marble pattern on my injection product. Anyone know what's the problem? Thank you.

Hey guys, I'm doing my research to ultimately join an ecovillage. I recently went to the intro week of Tamera in the south of Portugal, perhaps you saw the video that is also on the youtube channel of One Army: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCEmiriV0k&t=872s I was super impressed and I am going back in October to do their community course. I thought I'd share because this is truly a place where there's so much to learn, they've been doing this since the 90s in Portugal (and before that in Germany) https://www.tamera.org/events/community-course-2023/ They're currently about 150 people. The intro week, courses and welcome days are the only opportunities to visit them. (edited)

Visiting Tamera community in Portugal

Community Course | Tamera Peace Research & Education Center

Begin your journey as a peace worker with our month-long course on the foundational principles of community building, based on the Healing Biotopes Plan.

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Butte (PP Philippines)

someone dropped by today. has one metric ton per week of polyester fabric scraps to dispose of. any ideas? it is not water absorbent. it is the sports jersey material. so it can not be made into any sort of cloth rag. labor costs are too much due to the material being irregular shapes to sew back together for eco shopping bags.

There's a business pressing polyester textile scraps into bricks/panels/etc- FabBRICK; I believe they utilize a binder. Here's an example of their workflow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_q2NbyKwk

DesignWanted

From soft fabrics to solid walls pt.1

Here's a use of primitive forms combined with extrusions that could have applicability to our plastic endeavors; CNC robots need not be employed- I can see such working like a large spirograph, or pendulum plotter: https://vimeo.com/277813206 Read more about it here: https://www.drosedesign.com/projects#/traces-of-making/ (edited)

Projects — D Rose Design

JuliaEd

Hi everyone, I have a problem of mixing color in when using the injection. There is no marble pattern on my injection product. Anyone know what's the problem? Thank you.

You have to adjust your mix of colors. I had this issue as well. Put in one color at a time into the injection machine. Try adjusting how much of what color you put in for the mix

Hello I would like to recommend something in the empty plot of grass land they got they should make a little farm if anyone who knows how to get this message to them can u please send

I've been looking for more efficient way to cut soda cans than by doing it manually. I've found this cool 3d printable can opener. I'm gonna slightly edit this project to fit the size of my blades. I hope that someone finds it usefull

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T87IvQoXEGA (edited)

fmtuve

콜라캔 커터 만들기 / DIY 도구 만들기

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Marcela - Community Manager @ PP

Hey! You can find information on the Extruder Pro model here https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/build/extrusionpro @Carolina maybe you can also help here?

Hi! Do you happen to know if there are 3D CAD files of solar projects available for download from the kamp academy website ? The only thing I found in the downloadabke kit was a few PDFs?

@Marcela - Community Manager @ PP as part of a collaboration platform in the field of exchanges with scientific research centers, I would like to know if our community can be an element completely within the framework of the adaptation committee of the next COP 28 in Dubai.

yoyo161600

Hi! Do you happen to know if there are 3D CAD files of solar projects available for download from the kamp academy website ? The only thing I found in the downloadabke kit was a few PDFs?

Hey! Unfortunately I do not, but you can ask in #kamp-chat

CWeagle#49100

@Marcela - Community Manager @ PP as part of a collaboration platform in the field of exchanges with scientific research centers, I would like to know if our community can be an element completely within the framework of the adaptation committee of the next COP 28 in Dubai.

Hello! I'm not familiar with this framework, maybe you can tell us a bit more? Feel free to DM me so we can discuss

Does anyone have experience of use fr4 fibreglass sheets for a sheet press machine? They are flame retardant materials used for making pcbs. They have an excellent shiny finish and are relatively inexpensive omapred to metal sheets. https://fr4material.com/index.php/fr4/?gclid=CjwKCAjwr_CnBhA0EiwAci5sigrsfRizttejQX4OGhj--E3g3G6bXjihJ2ULFC15HAIu7MYjFajb_xoCVFcQAvD_BwE (edited)

Fr4

FR4 Epoxy Fiberglass Laminate Sheet - FR4 Material

FR4 Epoxy Fiberglass Laminate Sheet Specification Overview Name FR4 Epoxy Fiberglass Laminate Sheet Base Material Epoxy Resin + Fiber Glass Color Green\Yellow\Red\Black\White,etc Color can be customized according to customer requirements Thickness

PreciousPlasticCork

Does anyone have experience of use fr4 fibreglass sheets for a sheet press machine? They are flame retardant materials used for making pcbs. They have an excellent shiny finish and are relatively inexpensive omapred to metal sheets. https://fr4material.com/index.php/fr4/?gclid=CjwKCAjwr_CnBhA0EiwAci5sigrsfRizttejQX4OGhj--E3g3G6bXjihJ2ULFC15HAIu7MYjFajb_xoCVFcQAvD_BwE (edited)

Wouldn't employing fiber-resin composite be counter productive, as heat transfer is what using aluminum plates is all about?

Have anyone tried to build plastic shredder or other usefull machines with motor from a washing machine? I see lots of broken or working waching machines for free in my local facebook group. Share your ideas and have a nice day everyone! (edited)

Hey I am looking for Christmas trees made of plastic several pieces. Do you have any for sale?

Hey, anyone has a guide or experience recycling plastic and using for PLA 3D printing?

bikenutz

Hey, anyone has a guide or experience recycling plastic and using for PLA 3D printing?

Check in #archived-3d-printing maybe?

Hello, I've got a question about larger silicone molds and vacuum ovens. We double shred our plastic (#5) in a blender to get it finer. The problem is that only the top layer melts on the thicker molds (still not large molds). This was not the case in metal molds. I think layering would work but would greatly slow down the process. My hypothesis is that the silicone and the air between the plastic provides insulation that keeps the middle areas from melting. We are also in a humid environment so I wonder if the smaller plastic particles are attracting moisture too. Would a vacuum oven help with this issue? (edited)

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PreciousPlasticCork

Does anyone have experience of use fr4 fibreglass sheets for a sheet press machine? They are flame retardant materials used for making pcbs. They have an excellent shiny finish and are relatively inexpensive omapred to metal sheets. https://fr4material.com/index.php/fr4/?gclid=CjwKCAjwr_CnBhA0EiwAci5sigrsfRizttejQX4OGhj--E3g3G6bXjihJ2ULFC15HAIu7MYjFajb_xoCVFcQAvD_BwE (edited)

Can't say I do but I suppose all you'd need is a cold press since it's using epoxy as the binder. I've used my cold press to push together a polyurethane and shredded sandal mix. I have a feeling you could do the same for epoxy and fiberglass, or something more interesting like epoxy and cloth or maybe try dabbling in bioresin and different materials.

Hi All, Did you realize that the website is not working as expected? I was looking for the started kit for the injection... but I get an empty page loading with the following URL. Can someone troubleshoot this?

11:58 PM

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/set-up-an-injection-workspace

Set up an Injection Workspace

In this How-to we’re going to guide you through all the steps to setup an Injection Workspace. Learn about plastic, how to find a space, get the Injection and Shredder machine, find customers and connect to the Precious Plastic Universe. Step 1-3: Intro Step 4-9: Learn Step 10-19: Set up Step 20-25: Run Step 26-29: Share

Archireel

Hi All, Did you realize that the website is not working as expected? I was looking for the started kit for the injection... but I get an empty page loading with the following URL. Can someone troubleshoot this?

Seems to be working for me (edited)

Hi all, I was wondering if there exists multi language versions of the precious plastic posters and logos etc. other than English ? or if there are editable versions of the base files? Anyone? It makes much sense to have them in the language of the people that donate plastic. (edited)

Archireel

Hi All, Did you realize that the website is not working as expected? I was looking for the started kit for the injection... but I get an empty page loading with the following URL. Can someone troubleshoot this?

Works fine here... Are you still getting that error?

Lávio

Works fine here... Are you still getting that error?

Yes it is loading normally now

Hey all, I am kinda new to this, anybody know if the shredder pro can be build to run on regular 230V electricity? Which motor would I have to use? Thanks a lot!

Filamin

Hey all, I am kinda new to this, anybody know if the shredder pro can be build to run on regular 230V electricity? Which motor would I have to use? Thanks a lot!

How many amps can your circuit handle is the limiting factor, by my reckoning: phase can be confronted by employing a VFD or phase converter. While you might find a spec for a motor in the plans, I'd seek feedback not on a minimum motor spec, but optimum, from veteran builder-users. You don't want an under powered shredder.

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Hi everyone! I recently discovered this community and I already have a question. I work in a thrift store. We have a lot of electrical cords (chargers, cords of appliances etc). We take out the copper, but are left with the PVC that is around the copper. I already read that it is hard to recycle. Does anyone have a use for this type of PVC? Or is my best bet to bring it to a recycling station? I am not schooled on machinery or anything and we don't have a big workshop with air exhaust. I am in general pretty new in the recycling business so anyone who is willing to chat and expand my knowledge, feel free to message me! (I am also newish to discord so forgive me if i say wrong stuff)

Jildou

Hi everyone! I recently discovered this community and I already have a question. I work in a thrift store. We have a lot of electrical cords (chargers, cords of appliances etc). We take out the copper, but are left with the PVC that is around the copper. I already read that it is hard to recycle. Does anyone have a use for this type of PVC? Or is my best bet to bring it to a recycling station? I am not schooled on machinery or anything and we don't have a big workshop with air exhaust. I am in general pretty new in the recycling business so anyone who is willing to chat and expand my knowledge, feel free to message me! (I am also newish to discord so forgive me if i say wrong stuff)

The issues with PVC are toxicity and corrosion, as heating releases, among other things, chlorine gas, attacking both machinery and people.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

The issues with PVC are toxicity and corrosion, as heating releases, among other things, chlorine gas, attacking both machinery and people.

So, that's best to leave up to industrial recyclers then?

12:14 PM

And does anyone have an idea how to determine what kind of plastic something is, apart from the logo with the number? Do you have any experience with scanners? I know Matoha sells scanners but I have poor experiences with their textile scanners..

It is said "necessity is the mother of invention"; lacking recourse to industrial recycling, we would all benefit from development of creative solutions, mindful of the material's character. I suppose first steps would be to determine exactly what the end destination would be at your industrial recycler.

Jildou

And does anyone have an idea how to determine what kind of plastic something is, apart from the logo with the number? Do you have any experience with scanners? I know Matoha sells scanners but I have poor experiences with their textile scanners..

Regarding scanners, affordable, open-sourced spectral scanners are in the works; presently, commercially available products are industrially priced. Lower-tech options include density testing by floating in various liquids, cutting or scoring, and incineration. Find a primer here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/nerdy

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Regarding scanners, affordable, open-sourced spectral scanners are in the works; presently, commercially available products are industrially priced. Lower-tech options include density testing by floating in various liquids, cutting or scoring, and incineration. Find a primer here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/plastic/nerdy

Thank you, I did read that. Our employees are people with a distance to the labor market, so I can't teach them floating tests. Also, we process a lot of plastics, so floating each piece is too labor intensive. Thank you though!

Jildou

Thank you, I did read that. Our employees are people with a distance to the labor market, so I can't teach them floating tests. Also, we process a lot of plastics, so floating each piece is too labor intensive. Thank you though!

The most basic- to distinguish Thermosets from Thermo Plastics - is the score test. Burning introduces all sorts of liabilities. (Thermosets will produce "crumbs" along the score line, where as Thermoplastics will dent/leave a clean mark) (edited)

Helloo, anyone here have 3d design injection molding? Thank you

Hello! I have a suggestion for a little project you can do at the camp! You should build a sundial! Just mark the position of the shade at different intervals of time!

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Sei_oo8

Hello! I have a suggestion for a little project you can do at the camp! You should build a sundial! Just mark the position of the shade at different intervals of time!

Add your idea on Projekt Kamp tab so that it will be easier for people from the camp to find it

yes at #kamp-chat

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

The most basic- to distinguish Thermosets from Thermo Plastics - is the score test. Burning introduces all sorts of liabilities. (Thermosets will produce "crumbs" along the score line, where as Thermoplastics will dent/leave a clean mark) (edited)

A few exceptions to your scoring test might be: Acrylic PS HIPS (High impact PS) PET Seems like there's always an exception haha!

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

A few exceptions to your scoring test might be: Acrylic PS HIPS (High impact PS) PET Seems like there's always an exception haha!

I disown the Scoring Test- at least to the extent of applying a possessive pronoun.

Has anyone combined two materials in an injection mould. Eg :Plastics and metal. Looking to have a solid material in the mould and inject plastic in and fuse both. Thank you (edited)

RILA

Has anyone combined two materials in an injection mould. Eg :Plastics and metal. Looking to have a solid material in the mould and inject plastic in and fuse both. Thank you (edited)

When researching, include the terms "overmolding" and "insertmodling". (edited)

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hey i just joined from the video of how to buy a land, im looking for information and guessed maybe i can get it here ^^

https://sublime-systems.com Anybody here knows more about material science behind cement to tell us if this is bullshit or actual progress?:)

Home - Sublime Systems

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https://sublime-systems.com Anybody here knows more about material science behind cement to tell us if this is bullshit or actual progress?:)

Hummm.... MIT. Lots of money flowing in. Huge promises. Back in 2022, they could fill about one cement truck... in a year. I haven't been able to find a cost-return indication.

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https://sublime-systems.com Anybody here knows more about material science behind cement to tell us if this is bullshit or actual progress?:)

They still don't have a production demonstrator up and running. Here's a dated synopsis from someone with a sympathetic motive to the PP values: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3ed4v4tBhA (edited)

How to make concrete green!

Hey everyone , trust you're all doing well . do someone know about the mechanism usually at the output of the extrusion machine who's purpose is to smoothen ,shape and cool down the 3D printing filament being extruded ??

SongfackManuel

Hey everyone , trust you're all doing well . do someone know about the mechanism usually at the output of the extrusion machine who's purpose is to smoothen ,shape and cool down the 3D printing filament being extruded ??

There is the heating element, the nozzle and then the fans for cooling, what is it you are asking specifically?

Thanks Lethal for your reply. well , what am seeking for is the connection and postitionning of those different elements like the fan , heating element , rolling element etc , i wonder if someone has had to do it or gone through a video where it is done

SongfackManuel

Thanks Lethal for your reply. well , what am seeking for is the connection and postitionning of those different elements like the fan , heating element , rolling element etc , i wonder if someone has had to do it or gone through a video where it is done

There is tons of information out there on building machines from scratch, is that what you are trying to do?

Yes sir

https://openbuilds.com/

guys

12:44 PM

how about risks of plastic deterioration when creating plant pots or cutting boards

12:44 PM

isnt cutting on a plastic cutting board recycled diy going to pose risks to health with chipped micro plastic bits or slow deterioration of plastic in soil + water when for example plastic garden beds would be made?

anyone ever thought of that like if recycled plastic is same quality as new after curing

blackdrake

anyone ever thought of that like if recycled plastic is same quality as new after curing

There has been limited research on the quality of plastic recycled X times, or mixed with X % of virgin stock; most of that research focuses on the production side- the ability to be injected or blown, for example -and generally regard in-house recycling by industrial manufacturers incorporating production byproducts. UV and heat exposure lead to all sorts of degradation of chemical chains in plastic- and associated characteristics; only a limited amount of that degradation is confronted by remelting the plastic.

alright thanks good to know

Is there no #build channel anymore? I am looking for information about chosing the right motor to run on a 220V grid.

So, I've been rolling around in my brain the notion of a reconfigurable mold based on a pin array- 14"x7" , with a depth of up to 12" (35.56 cm x. 17.78 cm x 30.48 cm). Resolution equates to cost/complexity; at .5"/1.27 cm per square 'pin', that amounts to 336 pins. Adjustment of the pin array would be implemented via... a screw array, threaded through a base plate/plates; each of the corresponding 336 screws would be adjusted to locate a depending pin, the pins loaded into the mold after screw placement, then immobilized. The mold would then be preheated, filled with either shred or hot extrusion, heated, pressed, then annealed, cooled, sides and pins removed, freeing the part. Adjustment of all those screws will be effected by application of a CNC system. The primary costs here are all those many pins, screws, and the machining and tapping of the screw plate- for mild steel alone, the raw material for the pins might run as much as $700 USD; ideally, I'd use aluminum or stainless steel pins- but the price climbs precipitously for what is an unproven experiment. I wonder if other materials might put up with the pressure and temperatures- perhaps fiber reinforced epoxy, cast to purpose. Any reflection will be appreciated.

Filamin

Is there no #build channel anymore? I am looking for information about chosing the right motor to run on a 220V grid.

You might not be able to see the #archived-machines channel, if this isn't showing up go to #👋start-here read the pinned post and hit the

emoji to have support channels visible

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

So, I've been rolling around in my brain the notion of a reconfigurable mold based on a pin array- 14"x7" , with a depth of up to 12" (35.56 cm x. 17.78 cm x 30.48 cm). Resolution equates to cost/complexity; at .5"/1.27 cm per square 'pin', that amounts to 336 pins. Adjustment of the pin array would be implemented via... a screw array, threaded through a base plate/plates; each of the corresponding 336 screws would be adjusted to locate a depending pin, the pins loaded into the mold after screw placement, then immobilized. The mold would then be preheated, filled with either shred or hot extrusion, heated, pressed, then annealed, cooled, sides and pins removed, freeing the part. Adjustment of all those screws will be effected by application of a CNC system. The primary costs here are all those many pins, screws, and the machining and tapping of the screw plate- for mild steel alone, the raw material for the pins might run as much as $700 USD; ideally, I'd use aluminum or stainless steel pins- but the price climbs precipitously for what is an unproven experiment. I wonder if other materials might put up with the pressure and temperatures- perhaps fiber reinforced epoxy, cast to purpose. Any reflection will be appreciated.

Took me a good 5 minutes to figure out what you're wanting to do.

Will you be using 336 stepper motors to adjust the heights or just use one tool that moves around to each pin individually? Sounds like a lot of work and time if that's the case. Whats the end result going to be? What sort of products do you have in mind? There's different angles to approach these problems.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Took me a good 5 minutes to figure out what you're wanting to do.

Will you be using 336 stepper motors to adjust the heights or just use one tool that moves around to each pin individually? Sounds like a lot of work and time if that's the case. Whats the end result going to be? What sort of products do you have in mind? There's different angles to approach these problems.

The mold will slot into the table on a CNC router with a pin wrench bit held by the spindle used to turn the screws- about a billion times faster than manual adjustment. The product will be brick constituents for monumental sculptures- either as is, as rough basis for manual finishing, or to minimize the machining time for fully CNCed parts. Some high-power manufacturers individually drive each pin- but I don't have a budget for that, and this method will pull more value from an existing system. It would be groovy to have a stand alone CNC just to turn the screws and perform roughing passes, and many small, inexpensive machines could do the job... were it not for the long Z axis travel required. Mod worthy, though, as rigidity and speed wouldn't be critical. I'd be happy if screw setting took less than 2 hours. (edited)

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

You might not be able to see the #archived-machines channel, if this isn't showing up go to #👋start-here read the pinned post and hit the

emoji to have support channels visible

Thanks

I know, I know- you just want to melt some plastic, and there are so many parts of the process that demand resources. It's easy to put health last- "after the granulator/shredder/extruder/injector/press/molds/storage/machining, I'll get right on air filtration and extraction". Problem is, for many, that never happens. Even within the small constellation of makers featured by PP, fume extraction and shop and personal filtration are sometimes inadequate or forsaken. Marginal air quality is dangerous- a deferred cost with a very high bill to pay tomorrow. The thing about tomorrow: it eventually becomes today. I invite then a review of a great primmer by PP on fumes, extraction, and filtration. These facilities assure the function of the most important tool in the production cycle- you. Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsj6qHHLynk (edited)

Precious Plastic - Safety and plastic fumes (part 2.2)

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I saw there are montly dev meetings online. Are those open for (aspiring) contributers?

The injection machine is built for making small objects is that like anything under 12inches?

Jack Apotsos

The injection machine is built for making small objects is that like anything under 12inches?

No- size is measured by Shot Volume or weight; my understanding is that volume is = < 2 sq inches. Somebody correct me if that ain't right. (edited)

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

No- size is measured by Shot Volume or weight; my understanding is that volume is = < 2 sq inches. Somebody correct me if that ain't right. (edited)

2 cubic inches you mean? According to the build on the website, barrel volume is 150cc or 9.14ci, but builders do make design changes so this figure can vary from machine to machine. @Jack Apotsos I think it's better to think about things in terms of volume and capability. Also, If you make a very large mould with a huge surface area for your product but still within the volume capacity of the machine, you might discover that you don't have enough human power to push the plastic in fast enough and hard enough.

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That’s good to know, I was looking for possible idea for RC boats I want to make. From what your saying I doubt it would be able to make a 13inch hollow boat hull correct?

Have you considered other approaches, such as vacuum forming or pressure molding? How thick is the hull meant to be?

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So, let me get this straight: an investment enterprise is posting to the "just-chatting" section of an open internet bulletin board as though speaking to an individual? Incredible.... just incredible. Is "Mr Wilson" by any chance a Nigerian prince, who through unfortunate circumstance, requires assistance relocating a sum of treasure? (edited)

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JohnNephew

Have you considered other approaches, such as vacuum forming or pressure molding? How thick is the hull meant to be?

No I haven't im going to look into it right now, im completely new to all of this so If anyone has any information as possible I would be happy to learn.

2:49 AM

The Hull wouldnt have to be thick at all probably 0.25 inches

Vacuum Forming seems like a plausible option, the only think I'm unsure about is how I would get or make the sheets especially since I would want to make it out of reused plastic

Jack Apotsos

Vacuum Forming seems like a plausible option, the only think I'm unsure about is how I would get or make the sheets especially since I would want to make it out of reused plastic

I think it is a mistake for us to believe we have to do EVERYTHING. Creating a demand for material is even more important than outfitting a processing system. Consider how much faster your project might progress were the focus on die forming stock material supplied by a sheet press operator instead of collection, washing, shredding, pressing, etc. (edited)

Hi all, hope your all doing well. I just joined the precious plastic community and would like to know where can I go and try making blocks or some pieces out of waste plastic . Are there any workshop areas ?

I also want todo that Pooja but I live in America and there's nothing like that around me so I have to start by my self with a bit over 500 bucks and brain >-<

11:20 PM

I think ill build an injection machine and flower pot mould to start since it sounds like the best way to go for now

Do you already gave a shredder?

Howdy -- engineering faculty member here working on engineering adaptation for climate change as well as recycling technology. I am looking to purchase ASAP a mini shredder (can be a kit, or just the shredder -- I have motors and we can make a hopper -- or full devices) for student-driven projects, but I need one composed of stainless steel parts and which is capable of shredding waste textile as well as polymeric material (i.e. polyurethane). VERY happy to have found this forum!

Gary

Howdy -- engineering faculty member here working on engineering adaptation for climate change as well as recycling technology. I am looking to purchase ASAP a mini shredder (can be a kit, or just the shredder -- I have motors and we can make a hopper -- or full devices) for student-driven projects, but I need one composed of stainless steel parts and which is capable of shredding waste textile as well as polymeric material (i.e. polyurethane). VERY happy to have found this forum!

Hey Gary, I haven't had much luck shredding textiles with my shredder. Sandals (EVA?) and PU seemed to shred ok though. You should have a look st the bazar for buying machines. There's builders all over the world. https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/

New Atlas Kickstarter: InFUNity Tiles

Plastice to sell products, machines, and plastic. Empowering our recycling ecosystem around the world.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Hey Gary, I haven't had much luck shredding textiles with my shredder. Sandals (EVA?) and PU seemed to shred ok though. You should have a look st the bazar for buying machines. There's builders all over the world. https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/

Thank you very much -- I appreciate the advice.

We will launch a Kickstarter on October 17th to fund a mass production mold for making "hat" tiles from recycled plastic -- thanks to anyone who can spread the word! https://atlas-games.com/news/post?s=2023-09-28-new-atlas-kickstarter-infunity-tiles

Our newest Kickstarter will launch on Oct 17 at 10am Central. Sign up NOW to get your reminder on launch day! InFUNity Tiles turn an amazing math discovery into a freeform puzzle for all ages! In March, a breakthrough discovery in mathematics was announced: the aperiodic monotile or "einstein" tile dubbed the Hat. This single shape can cover an ...

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If I don’t have a fume filter but I do the injections out side with a carbon capture mask will I be safe or is the fume filter still necessary?

Jack Apotsos

If I don’t have a fume filter but I do the injections out side with a carbon capture mask will I be safe or is the fume filter still necessary?

I would not be worried if you're working outside with HDPE/LDPE/PP.

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What about PET? I didn’t see it on the chart for toxic fumes in the safety video.

Jack Apotsos

What about PET? I didn’t see it on the chart for toxic fumes in the safety video.

What is your question?

Jack Apotsos

What about PET? I didn’t see it on the chart for toxic fumes in the safety video.

Hey good point. I'm curious why there's no data on the site. But anyways, PET emits more fumes and VOCs than HDPE and also more smell.

Ok thank you for the information

Hi I'm new to the community. Looking for any contacts in Brisbane, Australia. Hopefully with access to a shredder.

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designfilter

Hi I'm new to the community. Looking for any contacts in Brisbane, Australia. Hopefully with access to a shredder.

I know some one near Brisbane

Hi, i would like to have a opinion, so i live in a village in Portugal, near project kamp, with lot's of old empty houses most made out of rock, clay and wood( 50+ years old) and i would like to rebuild them to rent them, but rebuild them exacly like they were first build. My question is: Would you like to live in them? Should i document the processe on YouTube? Also could be good to Stay during winter for the @Project Kamp people. Thanks for the attention

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Hi team, does anyone know where I can find the plans for the bio press?

I seem to recall a youtube video from precious plastics.. Maybe this is the one, or one like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD57zOGqAPs

Precious Plastic - Make an edible bowl (part 8.2)

NJ90210

I seem to recall a youtube video from precious plastics.. Maybe this is the one, or one like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD57zOGqAPs

It's in the V4 Download Kit under the Research heading- find it here: https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/download

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

I've got v4. I wonder which folder it is in.

Carl

Hi team, does anyone know where I can find the plans for the bio press?

This might be the closes you'll Get. https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/research/beyondplastic

https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/783351427111452723/1156610585044201472

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

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NJ90210

I've got v4. I wonder which folder it is in.

"It's in the V4 Download Kit under the Research heading"; the attached image shows the file tree I just downloaded. Sadly, there is no link to these files from the "Beyond Plastic" page, and the files are not in the intuitive Build location (I've brought this deficiency to the host's attention before, to no avail). (edited)

I'll be damned! It IS!! its right there! Why couldn't I find it on a link?

NJ90210

I'll be damned! It IS!! its right there! Why couldn't I find it on a link?

"Do not try to find the link- that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth." "What truth?" "There is no link." -The Plastic Matrix Recycled

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Does anyone have DIYs on ventilating fumes from melting plastic?

Pollypockey

Does anyone have DIYs on ventilating fumes from melting plastic?

Iv herd making and selling injection molded pots isn’t profitable or just has small margins, is this true? If so why?

Jack Apotsos

Iv herd making and selling injection molded pots isn’t profitable or just has small margins, is this true? If so why?

I've heard singers don't make much money. Taylor Swift might disagree. As I understand it, for the folks down at Precious Plastics Melbourne, injection molding has been an important part of their core business. A review of their blog and Instagram feed depicts how they progressed to that point- and they might be amenable to answering considered questions.

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stay safe

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Does anyone know someone in Rio that wants to buy a shredder and a extrusion machine. I´m selling. Thank you all.

#just-chatting does anyone know of any equipment to clean recyclable materials?

Maybe you guys also can use the waterfall for electrcity

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bohodagroup007

Maybe you guys also can use the waterfall for electrcity

i think they talked about this in one of the many videos

If im not mistaken, the issue is it's a bit far from the camp and isnt very feasible.

also it's on a neighbor's land who given them permission to benefit from it

12:01 PM

no idea about the details of their agreements but they might need to ask permission for such a project is what I assume

tightlyknit1146

#just-chatting does anyone know of any equipment to clean recyclable materials?

There are several wash systems detailed at the Universe are of the Precious Plastics page.

does anyone know why there's no #build channel in this discord anymore?

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bohodagroup007

Maybe you guys also can use the waterfall for electrcity

Yeah, moving electricity is relatively expensive. Either you're going above ground, needing poles and someone to run the lines. Or you're trenching, needing conduit, possibly specific fill around the conduit, and the cable itself. If I hook my property up to the grid where I live, I've got to go ~1/2 mile and I'm looking at probably 70-100k USD.

Where do you live that 1/2 mile costs $70-100k?

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May have been because I was considering running water at the same time. But quick google searches say $10-$25 per foot for running power underground.

Assuming you’re digging your own trench, laying your own wire, and the power company is just taking it from the base of the pole to the transformer? No way. Now, if you’re paying a contractor and electrician for that, sure, I guess.

Haha, I just watched a video last night where the guy had 12k just in the conduit. He had most of his own machinery, except for the trencher, which he rented. He didn't say how long it took him, but I think it was probably a couple of weeks, and he's a heavy equipment operator, familiar with the process. Then on top of that, the electrical company told him it was going to be 52k for them to just provide and pull the wires (guide line already present), and the transformer and meter hookup. He's contesting that as its agregious. But he also didn't have to have his conduit inspected or provide specific fill. I think I do in my county/state.

9:21 PM

I'm just a guy, who was trying to pencil in some prices. Not a subject mater expert.

That was Matt from Diesel Creek, as I remember those quotes. He is purchasing the wire from them and making them pull it through like 2 miles of conduit or whatever, and he’s surprised they charge an arm and a leg. (edited)

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9:03 AM

does anyone have a use for 100 percent polyester fabric scrap? I got a company with a couple tons per week available. it is similar to the underarmor cloth. i tried extruding it, but it only gave me this weird sugar candy like plastic lumber that crumbles at the smallest impact.

9:04 AM

i have put it in the sheet press and it burned

9:04 AM

mixed with PP plastic cloth on top and bottom and it gav e a interesting finish to the sheets.

9:05 AM

if i can figure out a useful profitable product to make with it, it will go a long way towards our shops financial sustainibility. not to mention diverting potentially many tons per week from landfills.

Butte (PP Philippines)

this some nonsense chain message that has been going on for years. please google it before spreading it around.

While the process may not appeal to you, the folks over at https://www.fab-brick.com/ have developed a method, me thinks, that is likely applicable. (cotten depicted, but they do a lot of polyester work, too) (edited)

FabBRICK | Design | Paris

FabBRICK est un matériau en textile recyclé, innovant et recyclable, créé par Clarisse Merlet architecte DE. Un matériau éco-responsable pour le design et l'architecture.

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their pictures look like they have a heated press.

i see a shop press in this pic and a laser cut steel mold.

3:34 AM

shred, cast resin and a press for fabbrik

3:36 AM

3:37 AM

teflon liner in the mold for non stick of the resin infused shredded plastic.

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They have a stream. They can build one there. I remember than when they clean it in the beginning, they tried to build a small dam. The conditions are there.

How many watt do we required for making plastic press machine

mhonchan

How many watt do we required for making plastic press machine

for the Sheetpress , we require a heating element of 300W

5:16 AM

hello guys from Cameroon , i would like to know something about the compressor, i have watched the video and done my own shredder , however i wanted to equally do for the compressor but i have an issue with the positionning of the Bangheater cuz it was not actually clearly shown in the video . thanks for any constructive reply!!!

Dose anyone know of a good way to get a used motor for a shredder?

Jack Apotsos

Dose anyone know of a good way to get a used motor for a shredder?

Sometimes you can find stores that sell used motors. The ones I know of in Indonesia always have used motors for sale. If i were in the USA i would probably look around on the facebook marketplace or check craigslist. I suppose there's also Ebay.

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Hi, i want to start my own precious plastic recycling facility in Borneo Indonesia I'm currently still on the business planning stage, can anyone please share where cost of production comes from for producing plastic sheets? It seems like i have missed some things on my calculations, the profit margin looks too good to be true when i compare the selling price to the others in my area... so far the cost only came from the materials used (a.k.a. plastic waste) and fixed cost like electricity bills, water bills, and space rent. compared to the asset price, production cost goes way higher... I'm not sure i did the math right :')))

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Hi just wondering if anyone's still working on the plastic sorting robot? I'd love to help out however i can

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Fionna Lee

Hi, i want to start my own precious plastic recycling facility in Borneo Indonesia I'm currently still on the business planning stage, can anyone please share where cost of production comes from for producing plastic sheets? It seems like i have missed some things on my calculations, the profit margin looks too good to be true when i compare the selling price to the others in my area... so far the cost only came from the materials used (a.k.a. plastic waste) and fixed cost like electricity bills, water bills, and space rent. compared to the asset price, production cost goes way higher... I'm not sure i did the math right :')))

Plastic sheet production in Kalimantan: Let's assume you shred and wash your own plastic, so you need to break things down but overall if you're a small operation your overhead will also be small. Sheet production for 1 sheet per day: Electricity (PLN): rp30.000 Labor : rp150.000/person (lets say one person works) Overhead : Rent per month divided by work days (12 juta / 20 days = rp600.000) total cost for one sheet production: rp780.000 Price per sheet : rp900.000 Profit : rp120.000 Lets say you produce 4 sheets per day. Electricity (PLN): rp30.000 x 4 = rp120.000 Labor : rp150.000/person (lets say one person works) Overhead : Rent per month divided by work days (12 juta / 20 days = rp600.000) total cost for one sheet production: rp870.000 Price per sheet : rp900.000 4 sheets: rp3.600.000 Profit: 3.600.000-870.000= Rp2.730.000 per workday You'll need to put money aside for other things to power fans, lighting, food and drinks, tools, equipment depreciation (if they break down, you need money from somewhere!)

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7:47 AM

Price per sheet really depends on the market over there. I met someone who was selling sheets for rp360.000 for 1m x 1m x 1cm and i felt like that was way too low. They're no longer in the business...but typically they sell between rp900.000 up to rp1.500.000 from what i've seen. It depends on how well you make them.

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Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Plastic sheet production in Kalimantan: Let's assume you shred and wash your own plastic, so you need to break things down but overall if you're a small operation your overhead will also be small. Sheet production for 1 sheet per day: Electricity (PLN): rp30.000 Labor : rp150.000/person (lets say one person works) Overhead : Rent per month divided by work days (12 juta / 20 days = rp600.000) total cost for one sheet production: rp780.000 Price per sheet : rp900.000 Profit : rp120.000 Lets say you produce 4 sheets per day. Electricity (PLN): rp30.000 x 4 = rp120.000 Labor : rp150.000/person (lets say one person works) Overhead : Rent per month divided by work days (12 juta / 20 days = rp600.000) total cost for one sheet production: rp870.000 Price per sheet : rp900.000 4 sheets: rp3.600.000 Profit: 3.600.000-870.000= Rp2.730.000 per workday You'll need to put money aside for other things to power fans, lighting, food and drinks, tools, equipment depreciation (if they break down, you need money from somewhere!)

thank you so much for the input!

for the first few months, i think the waste will come from suppliers who had sorted and cleaned the plastic waste... for 1cm thick 1sqm sheet, I got Rp. 468.000 as the cost of production (this is just the plastic waste)... I used the Workspace calculator from PP and gave included the overhead cost (Electricity, water bill, rent) and Labor cost (for 2 workers, min. wage)... Electricity would cost around Rp. 6mio/month, rent Rp. 12mio/ month I've also included investment costs that includes 4 machines, tools and equipments, and a computer Based on all these numbers, selling the board for Rp.750k was enough to get to roughly 30% profit margin... and it would be 64% profit margin if i sell them for Rp.950k... which doesn't really make sense to me... (it's too good to be true) Is it normal for it to be that way, or have i missed out on other calculations? I'm still confused hahahaha thank you so much for the input:')

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Price per sheet really depends on the market over there. I met someone who was selling sheets for rp360.000 for 1m x 1m x 1cm and i felt like that was way too low. They're no longer in the business...but typically they sell between rp900.000 up to rp1.500.000 from what i've seen. It depends on how well you make them.

wow, that's too low, i would agree

Fionna Lee

thank you so much for the input!

for the first few months, i think the waste will come from suppliers who had sorted and cleaned the plastic waste... for 1cm thick 1sqm sheet, I got Rp. 468.000 as the cost of production (this is just the plastic waste)... I used the Workspace calculator from PP and gave included the overhead cost (Electricity, water bill, rent) and Labor cost (for 2 workers, min. wage)... Electricity would cost around Rp. 6mio/month, rent Rp. 12mio/ month I've also included investment costs that includes 4 machines, tools and equipments, and a computer Based on all these numbers, selling the board for Rp.750k was enough to get to roughly 30% profit margin... and it would be 64% profit margin if i sell them for Rp.950k... which doesn't really make sense to me... (it's too good to be true) Is it normal for it to be that way, or have i missed out on other calculations? I'm still confused hahahaha thank you so much for the input:')

I can't speak for other workspaces but you might find that you'll have some downtime. I think for your location there isn't any competition from other islands as shipping costs would make whatever you are selling more appealing so long as you have good quality sheets. Profit margin = (revenue - cost) / revenue Let's use your numbers. (750.000-468.000)/750.000= 37.6% profit margin (950.000-468.000)/950.000= 50.7% profit margin Few things to consider: 1. You might not always have orders. 2. You might have requests for specific colors which take time to collect materials (no production) 3. You might have some failures along the way (material issues, learning curve, machine failure, human error)

4:10 AM

Current sheet pricing on Java is between rp900.000 (56usd) to rp1.400.000(88usd) per 1sqm 1cm sheet.

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Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I can't speak for other workspaces but you might find that you'll have some downtime. I think for your location there isn't any competition from other islands as shipping costs would make whatever you are selling more appealing so long as you have good quality sheets. Profit margin = (revenue - cost) / revenue Let's use your numbers. (750.000-468.000)/750.000= 37.6% profit margin (950.000-468.000)/950.000= 50.7% profit margin Few things to consider: 1. You might not always have orders. 2. You might have requests for specific colors which take time to collect materials (no production) 3. You might have some failures along the way (material issues, learning curve, machine failure, human error)

ah, i haven't really taken that into consideration, thank you so much for the heads-up! I'll look more into it

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@Precious Plastic I would like to inform Yann and Caroline to check their emails tomorrow in order to have a quick feedback on this initiative of this association based in Angers on the setting up of a micro factory for the manufacture of second-hand plastic! ! !, waiting for an answer ? ?

Im working on starting a workspace, and part of my process involves cutting the plastic which will make microplastics. How should I deal with microplastics and dispose of them? Is it possible to collect them then melt them and recycl?

Jack Apotsos

Im working on starting a workspace, and part of my process involves cutting the plastic which will make microplastics. How should I deal with microplastics and dispose of them? Is it possible to collect them then melt them and recycl?

For your workspace, make sure you have a clean floor and not a dirt floor. Always keep a clean floor, this way you can collect microplastics and recycle them. Otherwise if you mix up the plastic dust with dirt, it's a mess and really should be avoided

How do you recycle them?

Jack Apotsos

How do you recycle them?

Just takes heat and pushing bits together, whether you are dealing with microplastics or macroplastics. (Assuming they are thermoplastics.)

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@Precious Plastic I came across your site today and love the concept. I would like to purchase recycled plastic stones / rocks from any of your makers. I am gardening this fall and a lighter alternative to natural rock and stone would be so helpful.

Hi everybody! I felt like i needed to write this: for those who don't know Precious Plastic celebrated 10 years of activity and there is a new video on their youtube channel, i think we should all support by leaving a comment

they are also making a givaway with funding for precious plastic projects This is the link: https://youtu.be/UcxbIFbGF_w?si=ZH8VPJTH5mzIn8wJ

Everything we've done + €103K gift for YOU ♡

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hi everyone. couldn't find this info on website and search is not very helpful with "PET" keyword

I've come across information that precious plastic machines don't work with PET. Can anybody share the information why?

Fedor Midori

hi everyone. couldn't find this info on website and search is not very helpful with "PET" keyword

I've come across information that precious plastic machines don't work with PET. Can anybody share the information why?

There's a few reasons. Higher temperature and smaller workable temperature. It goes from clear to opaque fairly easily when processed with any Precious Plastic machines. It usually has established recycling chains that would be more well suited for recycling the bottles. It's more toxic to work with than PP and PE plastics in terms of fumes when melting.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

There's a few reasons. Higher temperature and smaller workable temperature. It goes from clear to opaque fairly easily when processed with any Precious Plastic machines. It usually has established recycling chains that would be more well suited for recycling the bottles. It's more toxic to work with than PP and PE plastics in terms of fumes when melting.

thanks for prompt reply Ben! but technically, if there is specific request from the customer to create something from PET bottles - it can be processed with PP machines given that extra safety measures taken?

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those who are here for a while - any ideas where forum topics have migrated? This link particulaly https://onearmy.world/community/forums/topic/washing-plastic/

"...any ideas where forum topics have migrated?" The forum was burnt down in an act of self-sabotage. Fragments persist, here and there. It would be great if some motivated and capable person seized the just-announced grant opportunity to build and fund a proper forum. Now that I got that out of my system, I'd point you to the build guides over at Precious Plastic, some posts archived from Dave Hakkens' blog, or searches of this space- https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/824026136408358912 (edited)

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Fedor Midori

those who are here for a while - any ideas where forum topics have migrated? This link particulaly https://onearmy.world/community/forums/topic/washing-plastic/

something like this? https://community.preciousplastic.com/research/clean-plastic-more-efficiently-- I googled " Precious plastics washing plastic " and that was the second one.

Clean plastic more efficiently?

Currently plastic is often washed by hand at precious plastic groups. We want to see if we can develop some machine or process that makes cleaning plastic less manual and more consistent.

8:25 PM

But I think this discord is supposed to be the "Forum" now. There's a #archived-washing channel You can search for particular topics of conversation.

NJ90210

But I think this discord is supposed to be the "Forum" now. There's a #archived-washing channel You can search for particular topics of conversation.

Penguins are great- but they aren't emus... even if they're 'supposed to be'.

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There's a lot of enthusiasm for PK. I wish they had their own dedicated space.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

There's a lot of enthusiasm for PK. I wish they had their own dedicated space.

ААh my bad. I dont use discrord at all so I go the channel wrong..

DopeTraktor

ААh my bad. I dont use discrord at all so I go the channel wrong..

OH, not at all- it doesn't HAVE a channel: this is your only recourse. (not true- see below) (edited)

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

OH, not at all- it doesn't HAVE a channel: this is your only recourse. (not true- see below) (edited)

nooo. Project Kamp has its own set of channels.. Go to <id:customize> and select which project you want to see channels from

davehakkens

nooo. Project Kamp has its own set of channels.. Go to <id:customize> and select which project you want to see channels from

Thanks! I had excluded PK from my selections on that page; with a curated view, the Channel didn't "exist" for me (there's a broader lesson on perception and presumption in there, I reckon).

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Thanks! I had excluded PK from my selections on that page; with a curated view, the Channel didn't "exist" for me (there's a broader lesson on perception and presumption in there, I reckon).

I think the lesson is: discord is a mess

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I'm working on a new way to recycle plastic bags I was melting them in a square tube with a slider at the bottom, I think I successfully melted the bags but the beam is now stuck in the pipe; any suggestions on how I should get it out?

Heat?

Hey everybody, university student here who wants to produce beams—is the basic extruder model capable of filling up beam molds (say, 1m x 25mm x 50 mm), or do I need to make the Pro extruder? (edited)

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Mam

Hey everybody, university student here who wants to produce beams—is the basic extruder model capable of filling up beam molds (say, 1m x 25mm x 50 mm), or do I need to make the Pro extruder? (edited)

Let's ask @Butte (PP Philippines), Mam.

Mam

Hey everybody, university student here who wants to produce beams—is the basic extruder model capable of filling up beam molds (say, 1m x 25mm x 50 mm), or do I need to make the Pro extruder? (edited)

1250CC of plastic. I think it is possible but your mould might need a little help with a heater.

I just bought myself v3.3 shredder from the bazar... so my recycling journey will start when it arrives in a serious way.

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will start also recycling my failed 3d printers from my prusa printer and etc.. and move onto bottles and bottle caps, harvesting these and placing them onto containers for the next steps of the recycling journey...

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Preparation for participating in the recent PPOSF grant solicitation reminded me that we go farther together, and provoked confrontation with a bunch of tasks I had been deferring until "later". Building an accessible narrative of not only mission, but capacity; refining the skills necessary to share that mission as a regular feature of doing business; record keeping. Record keeping! I had the forethought to create purchase order and quote text files for expenditures, but completing the spread sheet submission document for the grant application, I became aware of how inadequate my text records are, lacking the capacity to interrogate totals or totals by type, sort, or search with intelligence. Seeing the destination others have arrived at is inspirational, and the struggle to get there invaluable demonstration of not just technique, but time, resources, and sustained commitment. In addition to mechanical technology, folks participating in the PP mission developed organizational technology, built guides for work spaces & businesses planning. A common marketplace. Yet, despite all that investment and our own individual development, projects may still stall like a bicycle peddled almost to the top of a hill, the accumulated multitude of unaddressed tasks and demands like so many small stones on the path. Without doubt, there will be more hands out to the PPOSF committee than there are funds to be had. For my part, I've already received invaluable gifts from the offer: a reminder of connection to community & the essential supporting developments that have gone unattended. Having a great idea in isolation isn't as good as having a great idea shared- and an idea by itself is nothing until acted on with capacity. So, without knowing who all to thank, I nominate @Mattia, the face behind the hands that have been reaching out to help with encouragement for the better part of a year now- please pass on my thanks.

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Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Let's ask @Butte (PP Philippines), Mam.

Basic extrusder is a bit of a misnomer. Much variability on v3 v4 designs with regards to heaters, rpm and platic types. That said, my BEST case scenario is 6kg per hour on the v3 compression screw machine with 3hp. Best results with the stock v4 pro screw and 5hp was 12kg per hour, I did get the extended 30mm extrusion screw from Robot Digg and was able to get it up to 18kg per hour. My 10hp 50mmx1600mm extrusion screw can do 40kg per hour. Bigger extrusion machines run more efficiently. this is because you run more output per hour, which means that your overhead is less, and it pumps out more plastic per kwh, You also save on labor costs per board.

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Hey Chris you can nominate the entire @PP Team

thanks for the nice words, means a lot. REALLY! Looking forward to receive your PPOSF entry. Until then happy melting

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Hey i just subscribed to the patreon so how do i get the patreon role on here so i can go into the patreon only chanel?

NateStole (Zoë)

Hey i just subscribed to the patreon so how do i get the patreon role on here so i can go into the patreon only chanel?

You need to link Patreon with Discord. https://www.patreon.com/settings/apps/discord

Ohh greatt thxx

Hi everyone! I hope this message finds you well.

My name is Orchida Ahmed, and I am a design consultant with a keen interest in material experimentation. I graduated earlier this year. I am currently involved in a project to develop materials for a startup called Up-fuse, based in Egypt. Up-fuse is a cult brand and social enterprise, established in 2013. Central to Up-Fuse's mission is a dedication to sustainability, craftsmanship, and social responsibility, especially towards underprivileged women in Cairo. I am reaching out to seek your expertise and advice on a specific challenge we are facing. Our specialty lies in upcycling plastic bags into tote bags, wallets, and various other products. While our final products are aesthetically pleasing, we are encountering an issue with the durability of the upcycled plastic, which tends to wear out significantly within a year or two. The sheets usually also have "imperfections" such as bubbles, ripples, flakes, etc.. The plastic sheets are created using the traditional method of stacking discarded plastic bags and applying heat to merge them into a thicker material. We are actively exploring potential solutions and consulting with experts to strengthen the plastic sheets we produce, aiming to extend their lifespan to 3-5 years. I am writing to inquire if you could offer recommendations on additional materials, such as laminates, sprays, or finishing liquids, that can be applied to the plastic sheets to enhance their durability and longevity. Any insights you can provide would be immensely valuable to our project. Thank you in advance! https://up-fuse.com/

Up-Fuse Upcycled/Recycled Bags and Fashion Shop | Egypt

Stylish eco-friendly bags, fanny packs, backpacks, clothes handmade from recycled materials by Up-Fuse artisans. Nothing is ever wasted. Explore now!

Kooks

Hi everyone! I hope this message finds you well.

My name is Orchida Ahmed, and I am a design consultant with a keen interest in material experimentation. I graduated earlier this year. I am currently involved in a project to develop materials for a startup called Up-fuse, based in Egypt. Up-fuse is a cult brand and social enterprise, established in 2013. Central to Up-Fuse's mission is a dedication to sustainability, craftsmanship, and social responsibility, especially towards underprivileged women in Cairo. I am reaching out to seek your expertise and advice on a specific challenge we are facing. Our specialty lies in upcycling plastic bags into tote bags, wallets, and various other products. While our final products are aesthetically pleasing, we are encountering an issue with the durability of the upcycled plastic, which tends to wear out significantly within a year or two. The sheets usually also have "imperfections" such as bubbles, ripples, flakes, etc.. The plastic sheets are created using the traditional method of stacking discarded plastic bags and applying heat to merge them into a thicker material. We are actively exploring potential solutions and consulting with experts to strengthen the plastic sheets we produce, aiming to extend their lifespan to 3-5 years. I am writing to inquire if you could offer recommendations on additional materials, such as laminates, sprays, or finishing liquids, that can be applied to the plastic sheets to enhance their durability and longevity. Any insights you can provide would be immensely valuable to our project. Thank you in advance! https://up-fuse.com/

It would help your cause to provide images of the specific products and examples of failure: your point of sales features far too many products to guess at which or reflect on design.

Kooks

Hi everyone! I hope this message finds you well.

My name is Orchida Ahmed, and I am a design consultant with a keen interest in material experimentation. I graduated earlier this year. I am currently involved in a project to develop materials for a startup called Up-fuse, based in Egypt. Up-fuse is a cult brand and social enterprise, established in 2013. Central to Up-Fuse's mission is a dedication to sustainability, craftsmanship, and social responsibility, especially towards underprivileged women in Cairo. I am reaching out to seek your expertise and advice on a specific challenge we are facing. Our specialty lies in upcycling plastic bags into tote bags, wallets, and various other products. While our final products are aesthetically pleasing, we are encountering an issue with the durability of the upcycled plastic, which tends to wear out significantly within a year or two. The sheets usually also have "imperfections" such as bubbles, ripples, flakes, etc.. The plastic sheets are created using the traditional method of stacking discarded plastic bags and applying heat to merge them into a thicker material. We are actively exploring potential solutions and consulting with experts to strengthen the plastic sheets we produce, aiming to extend their lifespan to 3-5 years. I am writing to inquire if you could offer recommendations on additional materials, such as laminates, sprays, or finishing liquids, that can be applied to the plastic sheets to enhance their durability and longevity. Any insights you can provide would be immensely valuable to our project. Thank you in advance! https://up-fuse.com/

Hey hey! I am by no means an expert on fusing plastic bags together, but I think one major thing that will cause problems for the product longevity is oxium additive. This additive is a catalyst for breaking down the plastic into dust over time and will adversely affect any product you make with it. Basically, with that additive it's not suitable to re-enter the recycling chain and if mixed with other plastic you'll probably have the same issue. I'm not sure if this additive is used in Egypt but I do know it is used globally. I've seen some friends workspace who makes tote bags, wallets, and other neat things with plastic bags. They're not on discord but are quite active on Instagram. Have a look: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrQRKrqs_a3/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

kertabumirecyclingcenter

Ini tas kertabumi... Nah kalo sahabat bumi apa saja barang yang wajib di bawa saat berpergian? Seperti saat perjalanan jauh, berkunjung ke rumah sodara dan temen atau saat mudik kali tahun ini . Dengan mempersiapkan barang yg di bawa, akan sangat membantu untuk tidak menghasilkan sampah atau mengurangi penggunaan plastik.. Yuk komen apa saya b...

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Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Hey hey! I am by no means an expert on fusing plastic bags together, but I think one major thing that will cause problems for the product longevity is oxium additive. This additive is a catalyst for breaking down the plastic into dust over time and will adversely affect any product you make with it. Basically, with that additive it's not suitable to re-enter the recycling chain and if mixed with other plastic you'll probably have the same issue. I'm not sure if this additive is used in Egypt but I do know it is used globally. I've seen some friends workspace who makes tote bags, wallets, and other neat things with plastic bags. They're not on discord but are quite active on Instagram. Have a look: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrQRKrqs_a3/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

That was an education. This article is partly trash, but has some utility: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxo-biodegradation (edited)

Oxo-biodegradation

Oxo-biodegradation is a process of plastic degradation utilizing oxidation to reduce the molecular weight of plastic, rendering the material accessible to bacterial and fungal decomposition. Oxo-biodegradable plastics- composed of polymers such as polyethylene (PE) or polypropylene (PP) -contain a prodegradant catalyst, typically a salt of mang...

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Green greetings, I am currently in the United States and would like to meet and connect with any Precious Plastic community members to discuss possibilities of partnership, and innovation, and talk about a SMART project I've developed that can end plastic bottle pollution in Africa. If you are interested in working or supporting plastic bottle recycling in Cameroon and Africa, please feel free to contact me. I would also appreciate if you could link me with companies that do laser-cut parts for the V2 and V3 machines. I need a few of those parts to take back home in January. I am also open to recommendations for laser cutting companies in China coz it's easy to ship the parts from China to Cameroon. Meanwhile, if you need extra hands for any of your plastic recycling projects, I am willing to come and work with you for a week or two and a maximum duration of two months since I have to return to Cameroon by the end of January. I am in Phoenix Arizona and will be in Taos or Pennsylvania next month. I am also willing to commute where there's plastic recycling or machines to be built. Peace and love and I look forward to connecting with you.

@Precious Plastic I have developed a process to turn HDPE bags such as grocery bags into plastic beams without any machinery. I'm still working on an easy-to-follow process but If anybody's interested you can download this PDF that has my full process. I would be happy to join a call with anybody looking to learn more, and It would be an honor to work with Precious Plastic to make this information readily available.

How_to_make_plastic_beams_out_of_HDPE_bags._By_Jack_Apotsos.pdf

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Here is a picture from my first attempt.

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Hello everyone! I am Gal Hojman, Chilean architect. I am developing a compression oven and I have some doubts with the Compression machine 2.1 https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/compression-machine-21. If the compression system is outside the oven, is the idea to compress cold and then heat? How does it work?

Jack Apotsos

@Precious Plastic I have developed a process to turn HDPE bags such as grocery bags into plastic beams without any machinery. I'm still working on an easy-to-follow process but If anybody's interested you can download this PDF that has my full process. I would be happy to join a call with anybody looking to learn more, and It would be an honor to work with Precious Plastic to make this information readily available.

nicee, could you maybe make a How-to about this?

Jack Apotsos

@Precious Plastic I have developed a process to turn HDPE bags such as grocery bags into plastic beams without any machinery. I'm still working on an easy-to-follow process but If anybody's interested you can download this PDF that has my full process. I would be happy to join a call with anybody looking to learn more, and It would be an honor to work with Precious Plastic to make this information readily available.

1) Who is this "Precious Plastic" you speak of? (hint: not 'they' but 'us') 2) Have at it: https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/create (edited)

How-to

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Fantastic, I’ll work on one this weekend!

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Jack Apotsos

@Precious Plastic I have developed a process to turn HDPE bags such as grocery bags into plastic beams without any machinery. I'm still working on an easy-to-follow process but If anybody's interested you can download this PDF that has my full process. I would be happy to join a call with anybody looking to learn more, and It would be an honor to work with Precious Plastic to make this information readily available.

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So sorry.

1:44 AM

Trying to figure out how to stop it.

Obviously I was hacked, but be an asshole.

metaverde

Obviously I was hacked, but be an asshole.

Sorry you were hacked. Moderator has removed the messages so I think we can move past this. However I do recommend you setup MFA https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/219576828-Setting-up-Multi-Factor-Authentication

Setting up Multi-Factor Authentication

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Orphan

Sorry you were hacked. Moderator has removed the messages so I think we can move past this. However I do recommend you setup MFA https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/219576828-Setting-up-Multi-Factor-Authentication

Ty! I appreciate. I didn't mean to snap at you. I lost my wallet at lunch the other day and am still in process of cleaning that up AND I'm setting up new linux installs on my hardwares and I'm pretty frazzled atm. Ty.

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Hey hey! I am by no means an expert on fusing plastic bags together, but I think one major thing that will cause problems for the product longevity is oxium additive. This additive is a catalyst for breaking down the plastic into dust over time and will adversely affect any product you make with it. Basically, with that additive it's not suitable to re-enter the recycling chain and if mixed with other plastic you'll probably have the same issue. I'm not sure if this additive is used in Egypt but I do know it is used globally. I've seen some friends workspace who makes tote bags, wallets, and other neat things with plastic bags. They're not on discord but are quite active on Instagram. Have a look: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrQRKrqs_a3/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Thank you so much! I will look into that.

I dont know where i should send this but I just wanted to let you know that in the last video about the waterfall, I saw that you were mowing plants. I thought i saw an invasive plant but im not sure, the Japanese knotweed Fallopia japonica ( (not sure). Be careful with this plant; it is a knotweed, which means that when you mow it, the plant gets shredded and spreads. It's an extremely invasive species from Asia and is very difficult to get rid of. But you definitely should not mow this plant! By mowing it, you will only spread it more. File : chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.agriculture.nh.gov/publications-forms/documents/japanese-knotweed-control.pdf

Keul

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2023/11/plastic-waste-in-the-fuel-tank/

Plastic Waste in the Fuel Tank?

Consumer societies produce enough plastic waste to power at least 10% of motorized road traffic. Dutch designer Gijs Schalkx grabbed the opportunity and now drives his car on the plastic waste he collects.

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Our first Replay Workshop Kickstarter is ending in about 2 hours, and we are 96% of the way to our goal. The funding is to buy a pair of MUD frames and insert molds for industrial production -- first of these puzzle-like tiles, but then it will be must faster and less expensive to machine all kinds of future product inserts. We've been collecting lots of plastic and shredding it with our Precious Plastics Pro shredder, but want to develop more mass production goods using the shredder output. Please take a look, share the link, and note that you can pledge without a reward (even $1 helps!), you can pledge to donate a set of tiles to a school or similar program, and nobody is charged unless we reach our funding goal. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlasgames/infunity-tiles

Atlas Games

InFUNity Tiles: The Puzzling Brainteaser for All Ages

InFUNity Tiles turn the amazing Einstein Shape math discovery into a freeform puzzle, infinitely expandable, made of recycled plastic!

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Hello, everyone! I'm a student from a university in Brazil, and I would like to ask for your help! I'm involved in a project with an extension group from my college where we aim to recycle plastics that are currently not being recycled at the city's recycling cooperative (such as some types of PET bottles, for example). How do you suggest we start implementing this idea? We would like to purchase some lower-cost machinery, but we don't have the funds to invest in a press, for instance. However, I know that using an injector requires molds. Do you know if there's any technique or device with which we can create various types of molds ourselves? I ask this because we wouldn't want to be limited by the molds we have for creating products. Also, does anyone here have more experience with PET recycling and has been successful in making it work?

Dunno if anyone has shared this yet but this is a pretty neat project: https://skysedge.com/unsmartphones/RUSP/index.html

Can anyone suggest me another oil besides silicon oil for sheet press

Hello, i can't open the .step files to make my shredder machine. ¿How do you opened that files?

clvx

Hello, i can't open the .step files to make my shredder machine. ¿How do you opened that files?

What CAD application did you attempt to open the step file with?

i just culd open it with fusion 360 tks! i was trying to use AutoCAD

What glue do you guys recommen for gluing together to HDPE pieces?

Anyone else getting copyright claims from someone claiming copyright of the Precious Plastic videos from the One Army account? I have gotten many over the last few months after re-posting to FB. It appears that some scammer is falsely claiming copyright, and when I dispute it, it automatically gets restored.

Hi can anyone help me! What’s the best glue for squished bottle tops for metal and other plastic to adhere to? Tried loads so far!

Jack Apotsos

What glue do you guys recommen for gluing together to HDPE pieces?

I need help with that too!

Short answer is nothing really is good for adhering to polyolefins (PP, HDPE, LDPE) and it's usually best to go with some kind of mechanical fastener or joint (such as screws, bolts, overmolding).

Mattia

Keul

https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2023/11/plastic-waste-in-the-fuel-tank/

Does it go into details about how he pyrolizes the plastic and converts it to fuel? I'll have to bookmark it and check it out later.

tattymoo

Hi can anyone help me! What’s the best glue for squished bottle tops for metal and other plastic to adhere to? Tried loads so far!

Rubber cement works. It's not perfect but for most applications it's ok. At least if you want to pull things apart and clean off the glue, it is possible.

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looking to expand the community - shoot me a message if interested

Maybe not for products or a strong bond but hot glue worked surprisingly well for me

https://community.preciousplastic.com/how-to/creating-beams-out-of-hdpe-plastic-bags

Creating Beams out of HDPE plastic Bags

In this guide, I will walk you through the steps to make HDPE plastic bags into beams. This process is also done without fancy machinery such as a shredder or injection machine. If you do have access to a long clamp I would highly recommend following the steps at the bottom to make a better beam.

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1:52 AM

I made my how to!

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Jack Apotsos

I made my how to!

congrats!! looks great

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https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/603872351251202059/1177314239380201582 NFTs? Really? I couldn't think of a more useless, fad item to turn plastic into if I tried. What's next, PP Beanie Babies?

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it's contradictory for a movement about deferring used plastic from waste by using it as material is being associated with something that is well-known for being wasteful; "but why..?" is quite apt (edited)

I can't tell if they're trying to clean up their image by working with Precious Plastic but if they were then they're completely missing that, the things they want to make are not in demand, do not hold value, and would not have been made otherwise. (edited)

7:39 PM

Literally if someone were to make recycled Funko Pops I would think it's a better use. At least that kind of collectible doesn't support gambling speculative assets on a technology which has only ever been useful to scammers

It is WAY too late to still be falling for NFTs. Feels like a sick joke.

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NFTs?? Really?

8:03 PM

What a terrible decision.

8:05 PM

Ah yes an ecological organization partnering with a company that "makes" useless pictures with a system that uses a huge amount of electricity

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I think they might have misread the room

✨🌿Viri🍂✨

Ah yes an ecological organization partnering with a company that "makes" useless pictures with a system that uses a huge amount of electricity

(I don't want to sound like I'm standing up for NFTs, I'm not, but generally speaking they don't exist on Proof of Work blockchains, most of them are on Etherium, which no longer has that same energy problem.)

Not the "same" energy problem, but still a bunch of energy and material burned up to accomplish nothing of value.

Esther

Not the "same" energy problem, but still a bunch of energy and material burned up to accomplish nothing of value.

about as much as an MMO

8:11 PM

but there are still dozens of reasons to not touch them with a 10 foot pole

Okay cool, so it uses approximately the same amount of energy as something that provides some arguable entertainment value, except it doesn't even do that, and is also literally just a ponzi scheme.

more than a ponzi scheme, a platform conducive for running ponzi schemes, and they're not even the most common type of crypto scam by a long shot

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this is disappointing

TheCoolest

more than a ponzi scheme, a platform conducive for running ponzi schemes, and they're not even the most common type of crypto scam by a long shot

(look I know a lot about this because cryptocurrency was regrettably one of special interests for years. I don't have money in crypto any more and I regret that I have to tack the words "any more" on that statement)

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I have crypto, because a few years ago I found a site that claimed to exchange old giftcards for it at a slightly higher rate. Then I got locked out of my account before I could cash it in as 'real' money. I don't like crypto because it is not easily regulated and because of the waste and meaningless "value" (but "real" money has that issue too).

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Paculino

I have crypto, because a few years ago I found a site that claimed to exchange old giftcards for it at a slightly higher rate. Then I got locked out of my account before I could cash it in as 'real' money. I don't like crypto because it is not easily regulated and because of the waste and meaningless "value" (but "real" money has that issue too).

if you "have" crypto but you don't have the wallet keys, then you don't "have" crypto

Also it's been really funny lately to see crypto get actually folded in to financial regulations/taxes/state accountability schemes

The site claims I have it.

Paculino

The site claims I have it.

yeah no that money is gone

Yeah, they have it, not me

8:21 PM

It tripled in "value"

8:22 PM

Those giftcards were basically useless already; I had a stack with under 5$ on each and they were random, so I didn't really lose 20$ (edited)

I was lucky enough to make a few hundred dollars and cash out. I think there's an assumption that people who invested in crypto hate it because they lost money, but nope, I can still find reasons to hate it

I lost a whole 8 dollars on crypto and I've never been the same since /s

TheCoolest

(I don't want to sound like I'm standing up for NFTs, I'm not, but generally speaking they don't exist on Proof of Work blockchains, most of them are on Etherium, which no longer has that same energy problem.)

Pretty much any other use of electricity would be more valid, but also when you factor in the mining of the currency its still a dramatic amount of energy draw that could have been used for anything else

✨🌿Viri🍂✨

Pretty much any other use of electricity would be more valid, but also when you factor in the mining of the currency its still a dramatic amount of energy draw that could have been used for anything else

mining doesn't exist on proof of stake systems, that is why I am saying it's not the same energy problem

Ah sorry misread what you said

8:34 PM

I got u

Esther

It is WAY too late to still be falling for NFTs. Feels like a sick joke.

I honestly thought this was a joke. Was shocked to come back later and see that it wasn’t. Like, holy fuck.

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instead, proof of stake simply just, rewards rich people for being rich transactions are validated by machines run by people who will lose their stake in it if their machines disagree with the concensus of other machines and the people who hold a stake earn the transaction fees

But, what about that proof of stake in something that has no value!

8:37 PM

How would we ever survive without our…jpeg…

8:37 PM

So embarrassing honestly

Balgur

But, what about that proof of stake in something that has no value!

ok so here is the thing, all money nowadays has false scarcity holding up its value. It is not per weight in gold like it was in the olden days. All money is like that. The difference is that the values of currencies are at least generally tied to the countries which uphold those currencies. Cryptocurrency value can sometimes be tied to the value of computational energy, but more often than not, the entire valuation of it is speculative hype propped up by the news cycles.

8:41 PM

your credit card is not handing over gold coins when you use it to make a purchase. It is taking imaginary money and writing about it.

8:46 PM

that said, I would argue the problem isn't with the money being fake, all money is fake, the problem is with the money being useless as money except for gambling and scamming people.

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I'd argue that all money is a speculative asset with no real purpose other than to trick people into acting against their own best interests, but yeah crypto is more obvious about it.

and also the ideology behind crypto takes it a step further in implying that all relationships should be transactional, which is just plainly an unhealthy mindset

8:49 PM

i.e. everything you do should be zero sum

8:49 PM

absolute nonsense

TheCoolest

and also the ideology behind crypto takes it a step further in implying that all relationships should be transactional, which is just plainly an unhealthy mindset

Yeah. "Trustless ledger." yeah cool I think the world had too much trust in it, thanks y'all.

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Esther

Yeah. "Trustless ledger." yeah cool I think the world had too much trust in it, thanks y'all.

trustless in the way of meaning there need not be a reliable intermediary, I can get behind. Trustless in the way that you should assume the worst intentions of everyone, is kiiind of the thing it leads to, which I can't get behind.

It's SO MUCH BETTER now that we can do financial transactions without having to trust anyone (except the mining conglomerates who threaten to claim majority control over the system) (and the billionaires who are just using the currency as a pump-and-dump slush fund at the expense of people who are fooled into investing)

TheCoolest

trustless in the way of meaning there need not be a reliable intermediary, I can get behind. Trustless in the way that you should assume the worst intentions of everyone, is kiiind of the thing it leads to, which I can't get behind.

You might be saying exactly this, but I don't think you can really accomplish the former without the latter, no matter how you arrange the parts.

mhm actually what is tragic to me is that one of my current favorite technologies spun off from a bunch of techbros who developed it for the purpose of NFTS IPFS IPFS is legitimately good tech in my opinion. It's basically BitTorrent but easier to use and way more full-featured. And it's used for... storing images associated with NFTs. I personally use it for webhosting.

Establishing trustworthiness and building relationships are things which inspire righteous action. Building systems that require no trust only enables and rewards the nefarious.

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TheCoolest

mhm actually what is tragic to me is that one of my current favorite technologies spun off from a bunch of techbros who developed it for the purpose of NFTS IPFS IPFS is legitimately good tech in my opinion. It's basically BitTorrent but easier to use and way more full-featured. And it's used for... storing images associated with NFTs. I personally use it for webhosting.

but BitTorrent is a great example of a trustless decentralized peer to peer thing, which doesn't shove capitalism down everyone's throat and transactionalize the smallest bits of people's lives. (edited)

I feel like there is a certain level of trust in bittorrent

9:24 PM

I have to trust the search engines to find the content, I have to trust the original file provider to offer an uncompromised file, I have to trust the other participants to not abuse the access they have to my IP address and other associated information

9:25 PM

I have to trust my point of access to the internet to not monitor or interfere with my connection (generally least trustworthy element)

9:28 PM

If I choose not to trust the other participants in the exchange, I still have to trust the makers of whatever I'm using as anti-malware, and I have to trust my VPN provider that I'm using to opt out of that inter-user trust.

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Esther

I have to trust the search engines to find the content, I have to trust the original file provider to offer an uncompromised file, I have to trust the other participants to not abuse the access they have to my IP address and other associated information

the same levels of trust exist in cryptocurrency, the whole thing about zero trust is that you don't need to trust the underlying system, but you do need to trust who or what you're using it with and what brought you there.

9:34 PM

with bittorrent you don't need to trust it because no matter who you're obtaining the file from, or sending the file to, the file cannot be modified or replaced in transport, because it is requested via hash.

*theoretically

a theory which would doom everyone if proven unsubstantiated because every bit of cybersecurity nowadays relies on hashes

Yeah. Though there could be implementation issues that introduce vulnerabilities.

yes, but flaws in the concept and flaws in the implementation are different things. I guess you're right that it isn't the implementation which is zero-trust, it is the concept.

And even then, with an open-source implementation, if manually compiled, you can trust it to do exactly what the code tells it to do, barring potential vulnerabilities in the hardware, OS, or compiler/interpreter. Most trustless protocols use open-sourced clientside software for this reason. (edited)

I feel like we've strayed a bit from talking about nft's in relation to the new update. I'm still struggling to understand what benefit something like this really does. It seems more wasteful to recycle plastic into some sort of physical nft

mhm mhm I could try to play devil's advocate to say "well it's better than entirely unused scraps", but, I can't even justify that, because it feels like any use is better than this one.

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10:16 PM

barring maybe finding a way to recycle plastics into parts of machinery which go into the extraction of more fossil fuels and manufacturing of new plastics, or recycling plastics into, idk, an orphan grinding machine,

10:17 PM

yeah no I am getting off topic

my thing is just is someone going to address the controversy around using NFTs cause everyone should've already known by now the implications since we're long past the talk about crypto and NFTs trending months before

10:29 PM

I watched the video to see if someone will bring up an informed take on the current view of NFTs and it kind annoys me with the vague and simplistic way it's described, as if it's more like a footnote (i also think it's weird the comments haven't brought up the whole elephant in the room about NFTs but that's another thing). Not bringing that up feels a bit out of date in the current context we're in now

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we could just link to Line Goes Up by Folding Ideas a million times over but at this point it's easy to assume most people here have already seen it and also it's like, 3 hours long, (edited)

i've actually never watched it. i'll just leave it on my watch queue

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alright I guess I might as well link it then oh and it looks like actually it's just over 2 hours, not 3 One sidenote is that when this video was released, Etherium was Proof of Work. Since then it has in fact transitioned to Proof of Stake. https://youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9g

Folding Ideas

Line Goes Up – The Problem With NFTs

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Hi guys, new member here. May I know what are the differences between buying an extruder pro vs a regular extruder based on the Precious Plastics bazaar website https://bazar.preciousplastic.com/machines/ ? Has anyone had experienced using both and if so which is better? Would the pro be better because it's pro? And would any of the plastic extruders be able to extrude Acetal (POM) plastics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu3P5c0LUMU

TheCoolest

Literally if someone were to make recycled Funko Pops I would think it's a better use. At least that kind of collectible doesn't support gambling speculative assets on a technology which has only ever been useful to scammers

I just had a thought to tack onto this one thing to be said is, recycled sunglasses aren't a terrible idea, if they weren't novelty sunglasses. And especially if they weren't novelty, know what would be better? Real glasses! The North American market for prescription glasses has been put in a stranglehold by Luxottica, who maintans absurdly high prices, generally hundreds of dollars for the frames alone. There are companies which are trying to change that, like Zenni or EyeBuyDirect, but...

All to say, if it's so easy to make molds for novelty sunglasses to be used as collectors items, why not make molds for real prescription glasses, and aim to solve the problem of unfair frame prices in North American markets.

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My issue (beyond the baseline issues with NFTs in general) is why Precious Plastic collaborated with an NFT company in the first place. Was it a case of being horrifically misinformed? Does PP leadership support NFTs as a concept? Was there financial incentive to this "collab"? It's severely eroded my trust in the decision makers behind the project.

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こんばんは、 recovering NFT degen hear, who rode the highs and lows of the stupid jpeg NFT bubble. Would recommend you look into NounsDao on its own and don't bag into the scammy Jpegs we have all come to hate. NounsDao is not a company run by anyone person but a big pool of project funding money that use is voted on by the NFT holders. Some holder's motives are questionable, and most of the projects they funder are a bit WTF but they have funded a lot of good charities and creators around the world. https://www.youtube.com/@nounish/videos

nounish

Nouns is a new type of brand. There's no copyright. Anyone can use it however they like. And great Nouns-related ideas get funded!

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8:16 AM

nounish

Can crypto & NFTs actually do good?

8:19 AM

Checking the discord it seem to be a idea proposed a about a year ago, when NounsDao where looking into funding some productions of there noggles. https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/974251581920911390/1045379840766914611 Then followed up on the nouns forum https://discourse.nouns.wtf/t/nounish-sunglasses-practical-and-affordable-revised/2494

Nounish Sunglasses, Practical and Affordable [revised]

Nounish Sunglasses, Practical and Affordable TL;DR I propose to set production of high-quality, practical, and affordable Nounish sunglasses, in addition to fun and luxury glasses. The NounsDAO community is constantly growing with 65.3K Twitter followers and 13.6K Discord members). However, there is still not enough quality Nounish sunglasses ...

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Why would PreciousPlastic collab with NounsDao? It kind of makes sense if you look at it from a project funding perspective and not a its a nft so bad viewpoint. Anyone even non-holders can put forward proposals to the NounsDao and often local NounsDao groups fund projects, like here in Japan. So anyone in the preciouse plastic community could in theory get funded by NounsDao to make these glasses or fund something else that's not novelty glass. Add in a few events and some machine costs in a proposal and bam you could fund a precious plastic workshop. Whether some one could pull that off or not is another question though. There is a full list of things NounsDao have and have not funded on their website, its mostly web3 related but there is proof of charity funding there https://nouns.wtf/vote

Nouns DAO

One Noun, every day, forever. Nouns DAO is an experiment on the Ethereum blockchain.

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“Yeah, it’s a scam based around special links to generated images that use more power and computing resources than an MMO, are less diverse and expressive than the typical free picrew, and offer less use value than a cs:go skin, BUT every once in a while they use the proceeds to support a charity that isn’t another identical scam to their own, so it’s a net good actually!”

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I get that the idea of this is to use NFTs for a more charitable reason despite its controversial reputation, and that intent to do good is to be acknowledged. However I can't really understand justifying both the high energy consumption of NFTs and how the funding seems a bit more theoretical than practical

ChaoticGacha

I get that the idea of this is to use NFTs for a more charitable reason despite its controversial reputation, and that intent to do good is to be acknowledged. However I can't really understand justifying both the high energy consumption of NFTs and how the funding seems a bit more theoretical than practical

third time I'm saying this but the energy problem is no longer really a thing for your average NFT. https://digiconomist.net/ethereum-energy-consumption (edited)

Ethereum Energy Consumption Index - Digiconomist

The Ethereum Energy Consumption Index provides the latest estimate of the total energy consumption of the Ethereum network.

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TheCoolest

alright I guess I might as well link it then oh and it looks like actually it's just over 2 hours, not 3 One sidenote is that when this video was released, Etherium was Proof of Work. Since then it has in fact transitioned to Proof of Stake. https://youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9g

but as mentioned in this video, DAOs have a kinda shady and less than ideal "governance" structure anyway. The token holders are generally anonymous and the amount of sway someone has is entirely based on their stake. Even if there is a one token per wallet rule, bad actors just create multiple wallets.

3:15 PM

i.e. there is no way to verify that most of the token holders aren't just the same one person.

3:20 PM

Nouns and other DAOs are anonymous rich people cosplaying venture capitalists.

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3:24 PM

The whole thing about charity is, if you give what you can, you'd have nothing left to give. The philanthropy model relies on a perpetual cycle of wealth inequality, having the donor perpetually be richer than the recipient. If any philanthropist ever gave away an actually significant fraction of their wealth, they would... stop having all that wealth, and as such stop having all that much to give away. They would stop being philanthropists. (edited)

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Imo the bottom line is that nfts are worthless Ponzi schemes and that an awesome org like PP shouldn’t be messing around with them

4:46 PM

Also, they’re typically closed source

metaltoilet

Also, they’re typically closed source

their code has to be published to the blockchain for all to see, without that they wouldn't actually work. The scripting languages used are not compiled. Granted it's not always the easiest to read said code. Blockchain storage costs money, so there's an incentive to make the code as condensed as possible. On the other hand, this also means it doesn't really do much, and there's not much to understand about the underlying code except potential design flaws, disguised backdoors, etc. (edited)

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used gpt4 to make some promo posters for a upcoming eco fair. slight modifications to fix spelling and added in some additional text.

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@Butte (PP Philippines) are you offering any remote work for Precious Plastic Philippines. I'm an engineering graduate from Manila but I'm currently in Houston for personal reasons

ChaoticGacha

@Butte (PP Philippines) are you offering any remote work for Precious Plastic Philippines. I'm an engineering graduate from Manila but I'm currently in Houston for personal reasons

i need a engineer locally to document the baling machine project. i have advertised many times without any takers.

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3:17 AM

Ah I see. I didn't see the posting before but thanks for the reply

Is it possible to make an extruder for 3d printer filament manufacturing using this screw diagram given below

7:51 PM

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'Far from perfect', perhaps- but most definitely not "far from beneficial": the benefits of this space are many, and to discount such unequivocally seems a unwarranted denigration.

TheCoolest

third time I'm saying this but the energy problem is no longer really a thing for your average NFT. https://digiconomist.net/ethereum-energy-consumption (edited)

This is not a compelling argument, to me. They even state that 0.01TWh is "comparable to the power consumption of Gibraltar" -- saying the solution-searching-for-a-problem has the same annual energy consumption as a territory of 32k people doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. Proof-of-stake isn't as bad as proof-of-work, but it still uses energy for a pointless purpose.

9:23 PM

I have yet to see a compelling use for blockchain tech; NFTs are one of the worst, and it's very disheartening to see PP collab without further comment. From what JarvisSan said, it sounds like the motive was financial, which is gross. The whole point of PP is to turn garbage into valuable objects that people are motivated to keep out of the waste stream, so fad novelty sunglasses are a truly terrible choice. (edited)

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Graveheist

This is not a compelling argument, to me. They even state that 0.01TWh is "comparable to the power consumption of Gibraltar" -- saying the solution-searching-for-a-problem has the same annual energy consumption as a territory of 32k people doesn't give me the warm fuzzies. Proof-of-stake isn't as bad as proof-of-work, but it still uses energy for a pointless purpose.

Per transaction though, 22x worse than a Visa transaction is bad but still low. My point was more to say that there are way bigger problems to address. I mentioned earlier a comparison to the power usage of an MMO. The thing is, if people are using that much resources just to gamble, that doesn't sound like a resources problem, it sounds like a gambling problem.

TheCoolest

All to say, if it's so easy to make molds for novelty sunglasses to be used as collectors items, why not make molds for real prescription glasses, and aim to solve the problem of unfair frame prices in North American markets.

bringing this back down. I want to emphasize that a novelty product, funded by anonymous rich people using money obtained from gamblers and con artists, for the purpose of making these anonymous rich people look like the good guys, is just messed up and missing the ball entirely. We have real problems which can be addressed, if they wanted to put their money toward real problems I won't stop them, but novelty sunglasses for their own public image is nothing to do with a real solution to a real problem. (edited)

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Exactly.

9:39 PM

It feels counter to the entire point of PP.

and it's the most obvious thing to me that the purpose of NOUNS is not to simply do good. The purpose is to make an argument about cryptocurrency being a good thing. That is a perverse incentive. If they wanted to do good for goodness sake, they wouldn't be intentionally operating on a platform with a very clear reputation for doing bad. They are doing charity for public image.

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Yeah, it's very performative. Outrageous that PP decided to collab with them.

TheCoolest

bringing this back down. I want to emphasize that a novelty product, funded by anonymous rich people using money obtained from gamblers and con artists, for the purpose of making these anonymous rich people look like the good guys, is just messed up and missing the ball entirely. We have real problems which can be addressed, if they wanted to put their money toward real problems I won't stop them, but novelty sunglasses for their own public image is nothing to do with a real solution to a real problem. (edited)

"I want to emphasize that a novelty product, funded by-" In the grand scheme of plastic, it doesn't really matter who is doing the funding, only the impact. By my reckoning, the tendency for novelty trinkets to be the gateway for demonstrating recycling is both unfortunate and a squandered opportunity; standing alone, counter productive- but as a stepping stone to producing more enduring and substantive products, a net good. Here, I reckon the judgement is rushed.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

"I want to emphasize that a novelty product, funded by-" In the grand scheme of plastic, it doesn't really matter who is doing the funding, only the impact. By my reckoning, the tendency for novelty trinkets to be the gateway for demonstrating recycling is both unfortunate and a squandered opportunity; standing alone, counter productive- but as a stepping stone to producing more enduring and substantive products, a net good. Here, I reckon the judgement is rushed.

it matters who does the funding because they are only doing it in order to sell their own products and better their own image

TheCoolest

it matters who does the funding because they are only doing it in order to sell their own products and better their own image

What does their needs and intent matter? In any way? All that matters is the results- as with ANY consumption. Our concern isn't the satisfaction of their interest, but furthering the cause of the PP movement. (edited)

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

What does their needs and intent matter? In any way? All that matters is the results- as with ANY consumption. Our concern isn't the satisfaction of their interest, but furthering the cause of the PP movement. (edited)

take for example the reason oil and gas companies fund schools and libraries because it benefits them more than it hurts them Oil and gas companies also donate to environmental charities. I've even seen them donate to the ones which are actively trying to stall oil and gas exploration. Because it benefits their image more than it hurts their purpose.

11:44 PM

and in this case, the condition and result of the funding, is a novelty, tied to their public image.

11:44 PM

That is why it matters.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

What does their needs and intent matter? In any way? All that matters is the results- as with ANY consumption. Our concern isn't the satisfaction of their interest, but furthering the cause of the PP movement. (edited)

Intent matters a LOT in this type of effort because it's not just about getting the plastic recycled -- public perception is a huge part of driving changes in behavior and economy, so if movements like PP start taking money from folks who are just trying to greenwash, the movements become much easier to criticize and dismiss. If the ends truly did justify the means, PP should just start taking donations from ExxonMobil and Dow Chemical, no?

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Graveheist

Intent matters a LOT in this type of effort because it's not just about getting the plastic recycled -- public perception is a huge part of driving changes in behavior and economy, so if movements like PP start taking money from folks who are just trying to greenwash, the movements become much easier to criticize and dismiss. If the ends truly did justify the means, PP should just start taking donations from ExxonMobil and Dow Chemical, no?

Kinda wishing this comment was in two parts so I could cheer the first and poo poo on the second.

It's fine, the second is just a rhetorical question ;)

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TheCoolest

That is why it matters.

"... in this case, the condition and result of the funding, is a novelty, tied to their public image. That is why it matters." So, by your reckoning, universal adoption is to be shunned- we should have a clientele purity test?

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

"... in this case, the condition and result of the funding, is a novelty, tied to their public image. That is why it matters." So, by your reckoning, universal adoption is to be shunned- we should have a clientele purity test?

is universal adoption the goal now I thought it was reduced waste

TheCoolest

That is why it matters.

"...if movements like PP start taking money from folks who are just trying to greenwash, the movements become much easier to criticize and dismiss." I'm missing the environmental catastrophe associated with NFTs- there's is a moral failure, no doubt- but significant environmental impact? Were an NFT venture to donate money to, say, Children's Hospital, no one is going to believe child cancer treatment and research had lost legitimacy. The concern seems... contrived. Synthetic. Spawned by justified disdain for the bit hucksters. "If the ends truly did justify the means, PP should just start taking donations from ExxonMobil and Dow Chemical, no?" Who will rejoice that Exxon or Dow is redeemed because of a donation to PP? -were either to throw a few million dollars this direction, we would be stupid not to take it. (edited)

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

"...if movements like PP start taking money from folks who are just trying to greenwash, the movements become much easier to criticize and dismiss." I'm missing the environmental catastrophe associated with NFTs- there's is a moral failure, no doubt- but significant environmental impact? Were an NFT venture to donate money to, say, Children's Hospital, no one is going to believe child cancer treatment and research had lost legitimacy. The concern seems... contrived. Synthetic. Spawned by justified disdain for the bit hucksters. "If the ends truly did justify the means, PP should just start taking donations from ExxonMobil and Dow Chemical, no?" Who will rejoice that Exxon or Dow is redeemed because of a donation to PP? -were either to throw a few million dollars this direction, we would be stupid not to take it. (edited)

novelty glasses are waste

2:41 AM

branded novelty glasses are greenwashing waste

I'm on board with aiming higher than novelty items for the output of our efforts- but that is a separate issue from tainted funding. (edited)

if it were glasses saying "happy new year 2023 sponsored by Exxon" I would feel the same way (edited)

2:44 AM

ok maybe not Exxon

2:44 AM

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Oh, by all means- FEEL that way -but wouldn't we would all be better off would every villain take up such a campaign? (edited)

2:46 AM

Raytheon delivering cluster munitions in recycled crates, for example... (edited)

Can I get on the chat thread that talks about making machines with parts from the junk yard? Please?

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Oh, by all means- FEEL that way -but wouldn't we would all be better off would every villain take up such a campaign? (edited)

a campaign to... make novelty sunglasses?

Preferably, more substantive products.

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Or did that thread get deleted?

Consider the top-10 companies you despise most: you reckon the cause would be set back were they to lean into recycling? Really? Glock commits to 60% recycled materials. Mc Donald's to 90% recycled packaging and new store builds and renovations using PP products? British Petroleum to signage and interior furnishings. Etc, etc, ad nauseam- you reckon arch of those industries is going to be prolonged, and the PP movement deterred by contracting to make those hypotheticals happen?

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Consider the top-10 companies you despise most: you reckon the cause would be set back were they to lean into recycling? Really? Glock commits to 60% recycled materials. Mc Donald's to 90% recycled packaging and new store builds and renovations using PP products? British Petroleum to signage and interior furnishings. Etc, etc, ad nauseam- you reckon arch of those industries is going to be prolonged, and the PP movement deterred by contracting to make those hypotheticals happen?

You're conflating actual useful changes -- using recycled materials, recycled packaging, etc -- with making gimmick knick-knacks hat have no real value, that are going to end up as landfill waste the moment the NFT loses steam. That's a bad faith argument. Intent matters. If a company really, truly wants to do better, fine -- I'll still be suspicious, because under capitalism companies must maximize profit above all else, but maybe doing better is cheaper for them. But if a company wants to greenwash their production of useless garbage by partnering with an eco group like PP, I'm going to condemn them and the group they've partnered with because they shouldn't be making useless garbage in the first place. PP should know better, and needs to do better, or no one will take it seriously.

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NJ90210

Or did that thread get deleted?

Sorry it might've gotten lost in the chat as uh you can see

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You're conflating actual useful changes -- using recycled materials, recycled packaging, etc -- with making gimmick knick-knacks hat have no real value, that are going to end up as landfill waste the moment the NFT loses steam. That's a bad faith argument. Intent matters. If a company really, truly wants to do better, fine -- I'll still be suspicious, because under capitalism companies must maximize profit above all else, but maybe doing better is cheaper for them. But if a company wants to greenwash their production of useless garbage by partnering with an eco group like PP, I'm going to condemn them and the group they've partnered with because they shouldn't be making useless garbage in the first place. PP should know better, and needs to do better, or no one will take it seriously.

I've already confronted the issue of disposable production for myself. Much of the stuff that PP projects start with are destined for the waste stream; however, I don't castigate those efforts, as they are transitional tools. Were PP nothing more than key fobs and glass frames, there would be no movement- but movement there is, and much thanks to first breaking startup inertia with projects of appropriately small scale. These are necessary, not petty, efforts. My initial reaction to the NFT promotion was negative; I sought to test those feelings in this collegial arena of ideas. After consideration and y'all's reflection, I've come to believe my distaste was misplaced, and any flexing of capacity and infusion of resources essential to expanding diversion of plastic from the environment and bolstering the health of our movement. For those of you who didn't watch the Noggle video, purportedly, here NFTs aren't utilized as a speculative vehicle, but as a tangible-intangible given in recognition of contributions to support worthy causes... such as PP. Like giving to a Scout Troop, or Public Radio- but without the manufacture of a garbage tote bag & junk cookies. Akin to an "I voted" sticker. Confounding is how many here have presumed the folks who have fueled so very much of the PP movement would suddenly be bad stewards of our mission. This impulse to swing at all comers is self defeating. I suggest taking a step back, presuming good faith, and looking for gaps in perspective. (edited)

We've already repeated, several times, why we think this was a bad move. If you don't agree, fine -- just stop saying we're at fault for being rightfully upset that the people we assumed were leading the movement in the right direction have made a blunder. Criticism of leadership is vitally necessary to prevent power creep, and just because you don't agree with us doesn't mean we're wrong.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Graveheist

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

What is our purpose here, if not to grow? For my part, just expressing and guarding feelings is a failure. We get nothing without a basic effort to engage in good faith, cheated by dodging and parrying in place of an actual conversation. (edited)

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Hello, everyone, I'm the individual who initiated the Precious Plastic Noggles. I highly value your insightful comments. While I'm unsure of your locations, I'd like to share that I'm from Brazil. For many of us, Nouns has symbolized taking a leap of faith, especially for those with incredible ideas but limited financial means. Our Noggles project serves as an introduction of Nouns to the PP community, enabling everyone to utilize PROP HOUSE to fund their projects. https://prop.house/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0sJKeMmzHA Moreover, I'm in the process of proposing a significantly larger project to Nouns. This initial project aimed to demonstrate our commitment to delivering quality work and gain reputation in the community, which now you all can take advantage. We're currently working on impactful projects that are on the verge of materializing and will make a substantial difference. While I acknowledge the concerns expressed here, I believe that blockchain, like any tool, can be utilized for both positive and negative purposes. Should any of you wish to learn more about Nouns and the entire SubDAOs ecosystem, please feel free to contact me. Cheers! In Brazil, we've achieved significant milestones with Nouns' ecosystem support. I hope you can look beyond any negative impressions you may have heard. (edited)

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Hi, my name is Clara Brooks and I am attending college at Grand Valley State University, Grand Rapids MI, in the United States. I’m working on a project in my Social Product Innovation class, trying to create a project to help life underwater (Unesco goal # 14) in Fiji with water pollution. I’m collecting resources like information and panel members by reaching out to groups and people. I’m specifically looking for panel members who can help with plastic pollution affecting life underwater, people who know about life underwater, or anyone else who is passionate about the topic and would like to help me with this project. For the panel of people who would be interested and willing to make a small time commitment throughout the upcoming months to work with me as I’m developing this project. Please let me know if you or someone you know is interested and their contact information.

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@Mari, I'm glad you responded, as your post brings a bit more clarity on aspects not present in the Precious Plastic Noggle video. From the links you provided, it appears the Nouns project is not merely a charitable money pool for sponsoring creative efforts, but a crypto currency fund aimed at promoting the Nouns brand- (1) is that the case? My sense from the nature of your post here and the links from your profile is that your entry into this project stemmed from capturing funding from Nouns promotion. (2) Is that accurate? (3) What was your motive for the project? (4) What do you see as the benefit of the project? Due to the nature of the crypto culture, spin seems to be an unfortunate, endemic feature- as with the Nouns promotional video you pointed to, where advertising for Nouns is styled as 'creative freedom without restrictions'. There is little acknowledgment of the global underlying imposition of advertising Nouns. (5) How is this different than "you are free to promote Exxon in anyway you want that we choose to fund"? (6) Can you address @Graveheist and @TheCoolest concerns directly? As I understand, a summation: the Nouns "ecosystem" promotes the environmentally catastrophic and morally bankrupt cryptocurrency industry, and the product of these branding demonstrations, while funding individual creatives, are collectively of low or transient value, destined to re-enter the waste stream after consuming yet more resources, and, in toto, reflects negatively on the mission of Precious Plastic. Why address their concerns? Because their sentiment is a common reaction to your project- and that reaction impacts our efforts to promote address of the plastic consumption cycle, (7) doesn't it? (edited)

Another link demonstrating the integration of crypto into a/the Noggle project- and the use of scarcity to drive the entire synthetic consumptive enterprise cycle: https://nounsvision.com/ (edited)

Nouns Vision

This is an NFT collection of a physical, luxury version of the iconic nouns glasses. Each NFT is permanently burned to redeem a physical pair of sunglasses.

At this juncture, the argument for net good seems to me rooted in how unambiguously bad the entire crypto scene is viewed, how good the PP cause. Is it like the Southern Poverty Law Center taking donations from the Klan? Maybe- but if we follow that analogy to conclusion, it ends with the SPLC buying a new printing press while stitching hoods for the Grand Dragons....

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

At this juncture, the argument for net good seems to me rooted in how unambiguously bad the entire crypto scene is viewed, how good the PP cause. Is it like the Southern Poverty Law Center taking donations from the Klan? Maybe- but if we follow that analogy to conclusion, it ends with the SPLC buying a new printing press while stitching hoods for the Grand Dragons....

Hi @Christopher - Unmake Plastic , I was just about to answer your first question when I noticed your last two messages. The tone seemed a bit disrespectful and not open to a friendly chat, so I'll pass on engaging in this discussion. I get that Nouns might not be your thing, and that's cool. The project focus is on helping those interested in getting into the Nouns ecosystem. If you ever want to explore it and have a nice chat, feel free to reach out!

Mari

Hi @Christopher - Unmake Plastic , I was just about to answer your first question when I noticed your last two messages. The tone seemed a bit disrespectful and not open to a friendly chat, so I'll pass on engaging in this discussion. I get that Nouns might not be your thing, and that's cool. The project focus is on helping those interested in getting into the Nouns ecosystem. If you ever want to explore it and have a nice chat, feel free to reach out!

@Mari I 'reached out', without terms; you passed on the opportunity to engender respect and make clear your perspective. Voicing my best understanding is not "disrespectful", merely a statement of circumstance. By "friendly", do you mean "untested"? If so, that doesn't sound... useful. Educate us- or not, as you choose: either way, you get the community you build. (edited)

Mari

Hi @Christopher - Unmake Plastic , I was just about to answer your first question when I noticed your last two messages. The tone seemed a bit disrespectful and not open to a friendly chat, so I'll pass on engaging in this discussion. I get that Nouns might not be your thing, and that's cool. The project focus is on helping those interested in getting into the Nouns ecosystem. If you ever want to explore it and have a nice chat, feel free to reach out!

At least Mari made clear their motive: promoting Nouns- the goals of Precious Plastic did not rate mention. Which brings us back to the underlying concern of THIS space: is the Noggles project a net good for the Precious Plastic movement? This brief exchange seems to reflect on the concern voiced by others above that the Nouns angle is exploitative -but does that matter? Does success for the movement look just like any other mundane commerce, or need it reflect broader concerns? Does imposing those concerns limit the reach of the movement and ultimate impact? (edited)

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adrianmolecule

Hi guys, anybody in here that can give me an idea of injection hardware capable of doing this box? https://experiment.com/projects/can-we-find-a-low-cost-solution-to-store-temperature-sensitive-enzymes-in-research

Do you have a diagram of the specific part(s) to be injection molded, including size? Also, which plastic needs to be used (or what are its necessary characteristics)? Seems like a great open source project!

Are many people here using post-consumer plastics? If so, what does the cleaning and prep process look like? Is anyone batch cleaning their shredded material or should it be cleaned prior to shredding? And does plastic need to be dried (as in baked, not just dry to the touch) before melting into sheets or does the absorbed moisture not matter for this process?

adrianmolecule

Hi guys, anybody in here that can give me an idea of injection hardware capable of doing this box? https://experiment.com/projects/can-we-find-a-low-cost-solution-to-store-temperature-sensitive-enzymes-in-research

PM me your file I can check what pressure & machine you need

AXIS

Are many people here using post-consumer plastics? If so, what does the cleaning and prep process look like? Is anyone batch cleaning their shredded material or should it be cleaned prior to shredding? And does plastic need to be dried (as in baked, not just dry to the touch) before melting into sheets or does the absorbed moisture not matter for this process?

I suggest reviewing this space: https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/824026136408358912

AXIS

Are many people here using post-consumer plastics? If so, what does the cleaning and prep process look like? Is anyone batch cleaning their shredded material or should it be cleaned prior to shredding? And does plastic need to be dried (as in baked, not just dry to the touch) before melting into sheets or does the absorbed moisture not matter for this process?

Varies by plastic. HDPE, LDPE and PP don't need extra care about moisture.

Woah guys. Nouns reads to me as a crowd funding operation. I don't quite get NFTs or crypto and I live a nice healthy life...if it's not something you wish to be a part of, it's perfectly fine. Precious Plastic itself is a tool and I've had plenty of questions and jabs at it like "aren't you making recycling worse by not having a more proper system? Aren't you putting more people at health risks due to the highly enthusiastic crowd that melt plastic in their homes? You are greenwashing plastic for companies when you use their branding on recycled plastic from that company, it's not helping." We all have our opinions and understandings of things. We don't always agree. But we are here to have conversations and understanding, so if you can't suspend judgment and open your mind to others, it's not really a good space for discussion. So try and be more kind with your questions and discussions. We are a large community with thousands of opinions, but I like to think we are all friends. So please, keep it friendly.

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JohnNephew

Do you have a diagram of the specific part(s) to be injection molded, including size? Also, which plastic needs to be used (or what are its necessary characteristics)? Seems like a great open source project!

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I just want to design just the top. It should be able to be hold alcohol so it's should be watetight. The walls should be not thicker than 1 1.5 mm so they facilitate the temp transfer between the vials and the container with the liquid. I thinks any types of plastic would be appropriate. No 3d printing because of leaking and slowness.

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Woah guys. Nouns reads to me as a crowd funding operation. I don't quite get NFTs or crypto and I live a nice healthy life...if it's not something you wish to be a part of, it's perfectly fine. Precious Plastic itself is a tool and I've had plenty of questions and jabs at it like "aren't you making recycling worse by not having a more proper system? Aren't you putting more people at health risks due to the highly enthusiastic crowd that melt plastic in their homes? You are greenwashing plastic for companies when you use their branding on recycled plastic from that company, it's not helping." We all have our opinions and understandings of things. We don't always agree. But we are here to have conversations and understanding, so if you can't suspend judgment and open your mind to others, it's not really a good space for discussion. So try and be more kind with your questions and discussions. We are a large community with thousands of opinions, but I like to think we are all friends. So please, keep it friendly.

The lack of specificity in your reflection make extracting benefit a tenuous proposal. "So please, keep it friendly." What, exactly, were you characterizing as 'unfriendly'? For my part, summarizing and testing broadly reflected concerns is essential for discovery and development of a best apprehension. For me, the questions elicited by the project are worthwhile, as is probing response, examining from all angles, assessing impacts and value. Unvoiced concerns are unaddressed concerns. I don't know if @Mari read the full extent of posts in this exchange- had they done so, they would have discovered my urging a presumption of good-faith, and to not discount the Noggle project merely for association with NFTs and the crypto world. They would have found my skeptical challenge to holding such projects to a "purity test" standard. My hopes were that Mari might address concerns raised by those skeptical of or hostile to the collaboration. Instead, they shrank before the opportunity. It seems unrealistically naive, given our collective recent history, to undertake such a project without expecting to confront this baggage. It's not a matter of fairness, or friendliness, but a condition- like the weather. Dress for rain, get to work, and look forward to what grows. Or not. (edited)

really enjoying the plastic melting episode. i wonder if a heavy hardwood such as walnut would handle the molding process instead of metal, if someone wanted to carve the molds themselves? i dont know how hot the plastics have to be in order to melt down like that

Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

Woah guys. Nouns reads to me as a crowd funding operation. I don't quite get NFTs or crypto and I live a nice healthy life...if it's not something you wish to be a part of, it's perfectly fine. Precious Plastic itself is a tool and I've had plenty of questions and jabs at it like "aren't you making recycling worse by not having a more proper system? Aren't you putting more people at health risks due to the highly enthusiastic crowd that melt plastic in their homes? You are greenwashing plastic for companies when you use their branding on recycled plastic from that company, it's not helping." We all have our opinions and understandings of things. We don't always agree. But we are here to have conversations and understanding, so if you can't suspend judgment and open your mind to others, it's not really a good space for discussion. So try and be more kind with your questions and discussions. We are a large community with thousands of opinions, but I like to think we are all friends. So please, keep it friendly.

I hope I've managed to stay fairly civil in not criticizing any particular people, but rather, trying to challenge ideas and decisions. One thing I'm noticing is actually that nobody here criticized any particular individual, and all of the concerns raised were about the decision, and just like the issues you're mentioning in this response here, I haven't actually seen them be addressed, at most I've only seen them be acknowledged.

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adrianmolecule

I just want to design just the top. It should be able to be hold alcohol so it's should be watetight. The walls should be not thicker than 1 1.5 mm so they facilitate the temp transfer between the vials and the container with the liquid. I thinks any types of plastic would be appropriate. No 3d printing because of leaking and slowness.

Thanks for the added info. It sounds like a pretty wide range of plastics is likely to work. I would lean toward polypropylene (PP) or polyethylene (HDPE or LDPE) -- widely available consumer plastics, easy to work with. Might depend on how much flexibility you need (LDPE is more stretchy-springy than the other two, so it's often used for lids). I don't know enough about the thermal conductivity of them to know if one might be better than another in that regard. From a casual view this seems like something that could be done on a Precious Plastics injector, as well as by traditional industrial plastic injection molding. Do you have any idea about production volume and whether manufacturing is centralized or distributed? What I mean is: The strategy is different if this is something people are making for themselves, versus if it's being made in a handful of regional workshops in quantities of a dozens to a couple hundred, versus just wanting a part that is manufactured in thousands in one location so that the unit cost is something under $1 each. The big effort and expenditure is going to be the mold, whether it's for a PP machine or a traditional one. Traditional machines involve a higher mold cost, but far lower per-unit costs to produce forever; PP machines take molds that can be made much less expensively and with less specialized knowledge and equipment, but machining a couple pieces of aluminum or steel to be two halves of a mold for that shape is still going to be in the hundreds of dollars at least. But someone who has access to a mill or a good makerspace or has a friend with a machine shop might be able to do it for much less; or open source diagrams could be sent to whatever online outfit would do the CNC work for the cheapest.

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

The lack of specificity in your reflection make extracting benefit a tenuous proposal. "So please, keep it friendly." What, exactly, were you characterizing as 'unfriendly'? For my part, summarizing and testing broadly reflected concerns is essential for discovery and development of a best apprehension. For me, the questions elicited by the project are worthwhile, as is probing response, examining from all angles, assessing impacts and value. Unvoiced concerns are unaddressed concerns. I don't know if @Mari read the full extent of posts in this exchange- had they done so, they would have discovered my urging a presumption of good-faith, and to not discount the Noggle project merely for association with NFTs and the crypto world. They would have found my skeptical challenge to holding such projects to a "purity test" standard. My hopes were that Mari might address concerns raised by those skeptical of or hostile to the collaboration. Instead, they shrank before the opportunity. It seems unrealistically naive, given our collective recent history, to undertake such a project without expecting to confront this baggage. It's not a matter of fairness, or friendliness, but a condition- like the weather. Dress for rain, get to work, and look forward to what grows. Or not. (edited)

I do hope your questions get answered. I think it's easy for one to read your line of questioning and find them a bit abrasive and it's definitely going to rub people wrong.

GhomerGhamer

really enjoying the plastic melting episode. i wonder if a heavy hardwood such as walnut would handle the molding process instead of metal, if someone wanted to carve the molds themselves? i dont know how hot the plastics have to be in order to melt down like that

Wood can be used for molds to some extent, but they are not very durable. Would suck to put a lot of work into carving a really nice negative in hardwood and have it break after only a few uses. I have wondered about some other methods of carving in something softer in order to cast a mold in metal. For example: carve a wooden positive; use it to cast a wax negative mold; then use that with lost wax casting to make a solid mold out of aluminum/zinc/bronze or something.

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Ben - Precious Plastic Ciledug

I do hope your questions get answered. I think it's easy for one to read your line of questioning and find them a bit abrasive and it's definitely going to rub people wrong.

I have to wonder if the suggestion here would be to ask less abrasive questions, or to ask the same questions in a friendlier tone, because those are not the same expectations

Hi! Is there anyone using recycled fiberglass?

TheCoolest

I have to wonder if the suggestion here would be to ask less abrasive questions, or to ask the same questions in a friendlier tone, because those are not the same expectations

and I know it's not directed necessarily at me, I wasn't replied to, but I can't help but to have a hard time sitting easy with either of these interpretations. I'm autistic, I get that my tone can easily be mistaken for hostile, it's a question of whether a situation like that would be perceived as the fault of me for acting autistic, or the fault of others for not looking past for the intention.

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TheCoolest

I have to wonder if the suggestion here would be to ask less abrasive questions, or to ask the same questions in a friendlier tone, because those are not the same expectations

Mabye if we can get a little simple worded Q&A document done. To address some of the still lingering questsion on the project would be best? as its hard to address all the questsion in a long chat format

TheCoolest

I have to wonder if the suggestion here would be to ask less abrasive questions, or to ask the same questions in a friendlier tone, because those are not the same expectations

"I have to wonder if-" The questions were teed up to be hit out of the park, with the most unvarnished skew proffered to provide clear answers as reasonable contrast. All they had to do was swing. What I expected- what I wanted -was an ardent, compelling pitch to help flesh out the picture. At the same time, concerns weren't discounted or mocked. Compelling perspectives were voiced here, and the view I enjoy now is not the same I came with.

Hello! Anybody in Chiang Rai/Mai and want to hangout and talk plastic?

Jack

Hello! Anybody in Chiang Rai/Mai and want to hangout and talk plastic?

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arthuraloha

I'm soooo happy that there is a discord ^^ Hi everybody, I'm Gabriel Pinaffi from São Paulo - Brazil I'm a moreless a generalist designer and I'm here to help, so don't be afraid to talk to me

I speak portuguese, english and spanish :) Cheers!

@gpinaffi Hi Gabriel. Im Also Brazilian. at the moment im building a base here in South Spain but I also have projects set fr Sao Paulo Fortaleza and Belem. What do u do there in Sao Paulo?

Hey @arthuraloha and @gpinaffi ! Hope my message finds you both well (after 3 years!). I'm in São Paulo and looking for any way to get involved. I've been running my own business for 10 years, and now looking for new opportunities in this space. Hope to hear from either of you!

Hi everyone! Does anybody know whether it's possible to employ the Precious Plastic upcycling techniques to upcycle nitrile gloves (medical gloves, made of nitrile butadiene rubber)?

Alex

Hi everyone! Does anybody know whether it's possible to employ the Precious Plastic upcycling techniques to upcycle nitrile gloves (medical gloves, made of nitrile butadiene rubber)?

My understanding is that, like other synthetic rubbers, nitrile might be powdered and a small percentage added to virgin stock or to form an aggregate with other materials. It is a thermoset elastomer- not plastic. Heated, it is said to off gas and char. Industrially, it is extrusion processed- but that may be a pre-vulcanization process. (edited)

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

My understanding is that, like other synthetic rubbers, nitrile might be powdered and a small percentage added to virgin stock or to form an aggregate with other materials. It is a thermoset elastomer- not plastic. Heated, it is said to off gas and char. Industrially, it is extrusion processed- but that may be a pre-vulcanization process. (edited)

Thanks for getting back. I was asking because I was reading from this page below that it seems possible to produce plastic granules from it using an extruder (see text under "Discover our recycling process"). They say that these granules can then be used to "become the raw materials used to make the likes of park benches, waste bins, or watering cans". Which sounded like what Precious Plastic can do. https://www.terracycle.com/en-GB/brigades/gloves#:~:text=The%20nitrile%20gloves%20are%20processed,material%20for%20new%20plastic%20products

The Kimtech™ Nitrile Glove Recycling Programme | TerraCycle UK

Also known as the RightCycle® Programme by Kimberly-Clark Professional™

How clean does plastic need to mimize delamination or other quality issues? I'm considering starting some small scale recycling into sheets or potentially injection molding. I'm currently saving up HDPE bottle caps and I give them a quick rinse before throwing them in a bin. Is that good enough or do people typically recommend chemicals/detergents to clean? Would the same process apply to LDPE and PP as well?

AXIS

How clean does plastic need to mimize delamination or other quality issues? I'm considering starting some small scale recycling into sheets or potentially injection molding. I'm currently saving up HDPE bottle caps and I give them a quick rinse before throwing them in a bin. Is that good enough or do people typically recommend chemicals/detergents to clean? Would the same process apply to LDPE and PP as well?

I think that's plenty enough, based on my experience

@Marcela - Community Manager @ PP Hello, I dont see the new channel list showing on my Channel list as explained here --> https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/940908421882994728/1178735912125997227 (edited)

Hi everyone! Does anyone know how and if i can use the Precious Plastic logo and graphics in general for an instagram post on a Greek TEDx account? We want to promote ideas worth spreading and Precious Plastic is at the top of our list. Will we have any copyright issues?

@Mari this Noggles thing is ridiculous. Sure, we all intuitively know that each post-consumer recycled object is one-of-a-kind. In fact, the assembly line was created to make everything consistent and eliminate handiwork. What you've created here is little more than a fun toy project whilst tons and tons of trash lie in the ocean. This isn't as bad as funko pops, but cute little pictures aren't going to solve anything @Christopher - Unmake Plastic is with me on this that Cryptocurrency/NFT/Blockchain tech is useless if centralized (which it will have to be for the regular user)

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thebirdthatfliesatmidnight

@Mari this Noggles thing is ridiculous. Sure, we all intuitively know that each post-consumer recycled object is one-of-a-kind. In fact, the assembly line was created to make everything consistent and eliminate handiwork. What you've created here is little more than a fun toy project whilst tons and tons of trash lie in the ocean. This isn't as bad as funko pops, but cute little pictures aren't going to solve anything @Christopher - Unmake Plastic is with me on this that Cryptocurrency/NFT/Blockchain tech is useless if centralized (which it will have to be for the regular user)

I have made no such judgement regarding crypto and NFTs. I summarized common sentiment, and used Noggles as a vehicle for exploring whether bundled objectives and leveraged interests thwart or advantage the PP mission. Feeding one person does not have to end all hunger to have impact; likewise, building value for recycled plastic need not instantly mitigate decades of misuse to be worthwhile. (edited)

QuakerOates

@Marcela - Community Manager @ PP Hello, I dont see the new channel list showing on my Channel list as explained here --> https://discord.com/channels/586676777334865928/940908421882994728/1178735912125997227 (edited)

Hey, you'll need to scroll all the way to the top of Discord and go to "Channels and Roles" to re-add Precious Plastic

zettt3334

Hi everyone! Does anyone know how and if i can use the Precious Plastic logo and graphics in general for an instagram post on a Greek TEDx account? We want to promote ideas worth spreading and Precious Plastic is at the top of our list. Will we have any copyright issues?

I've sent you a private message

Welcome!

Hi, I'm Dario from Aalto University in Finland, We are a group of students from the university and we would like to open a workshop within the school to work with plastics. During the first discussions, we were asked if complying with EU safety standards if it is possible. Have you ever had to deal with these issues?

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Marcela - Community Manager @ PP

Hey, you'll need to scroll all the way to the top of Discord and go to "Channels and Roles" to re-add Precious Plastic

Thank you, this is probably a 2nd method a few people would use to add the channels they want to be listed/populated in their channel lists... (edited)

Hai, anyone have opinions if you can turn bottles like this into filament? Or if it would be possible to cut it down and flatten out the bumps? (Ofc cutting off the bottom and top bit) I don’t wanna melt it down, just flatten it out I tried with a random iron I found bc it still had lil bumps tho idk how hot the iron got and it was pretty old (idrk where the iron came from

Hey @Gummiphrog There are lots of ways for turning that type of bottle into filament. I recommend you check out the Petamator 2 or similar? You need a gentle heat to iron out the bumps, but make sure to remove any glue as this will ruin the filament

oh i see, looking at a video of the Petamator 2, im assuming this was recommended specifically bc of the moving razor?

All are basically the same and depend on where you are located and the parts you have avaliable. Some may have slight advantages but the principles are all the same. Petamator is just well documented

thats fair, and when you say "gentle heating" does this mean to not use the iron on full blast? is that what was preventing me from fully ironing out the bumps in the past?

Gummiphrog

Hai, anyone have opinions if you can turn bottles like this into filament? Or if it would be possible to cut it down and flatten out the bumps? (Ofc cutting off the bottom and top bit) I don’t wanna melt it down, just flatten it out I tried with a random iron I found bc it still had lil bumps tho idk how hot the iron got and it was pretty old (idrk where the iron came from

Another project is recreator3D. Here's a video of how Josh smoothes his bottles. https://youtu.be/xf8QNsDyYhE?si=7K-910U0pHfsQb1k (edited)

JRT3D

Master the Techniques for Expanding and Smoothing PET#1 Bottles for...

omg this is perfect, exactly what I needed! I dont wanna just use these bottles for filament only (which is the main thing i see people making with pet plastic...), I dont have a 3d printer and I dont have use for filament atm other than possibly selling it. but my main goal when starting to research this was to cut them into long strips for weaving into things like containers n such! im unable to get a job atm so was hoping that all my plastic 'waste' could be used into making smth I could sell and maybe one day get a decent 3d printer to be able to use even more of my plastic 'waste' this honestly really started when I saw ppl crocheting with plastic bags and old jeans/clothes and was thinking "hmm I wonder if i could crochet with my water bottles" (it would be a really painful process) and Ive see people basically making a fabric material out of specific kinds of material and sewing it together too! its rlly cool what u can make with stuff thats meant to be just thrown away.. Im sure I could prob make some paper mache objects/ making sheets of paper with cardboard and paper I dont need as well.. I probably shouldnt get in over my head rn tho and overwhelm myself with options tho LUL just need to figure out the bottle stuff first :)

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Anybody here ever use PFPE lubricant?

Does anyone know of a easy/affordable way to cut extruded plastic string/wire into pellets? Something along the line of what this machine here at 1:47 is doing https://youtu.be/76AFNIxYjUE?t=106 What machine is it?

Precious Plastic - at work

rarasmus

Does anyone know of a easy/affordable way to cut extruded plastic string/wire into pellets? Something along the line of what this machine here at 1:47 is doing https://youtu.be/76AFNIxYjUE?t=106 What machine is it?

They are called pelletizer for plastics - there are some DIY builds online. Not sure how useful they are for what you want to do. In my taste too many 3D printed parts^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Sg2xJwojsRg

Mr Innovative

DIY filament pelletizing machine | Arduino based machine

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Hi everybody. Im new here and very glad to join. Im planning on building a shredder to shred clothing. I found the shredder pro on github and the instructions there are very clear. However what is not clear is wether you could shred textile with this shredder? Has anyone tried shredding textile with it and what was the outcome?

6:13 PM

I guess my main concern is wether the textile would wrap and jam around the spacers? One way around it would be to have the blade tips curve like a hook so it would grab the textile away from the spacers. Would it work?

Hi @Joseph Payback analysis chart doesn't show on the Dashboard worksheet for the workspace calculator any ideas why? https://community.preciousplastic.com/academy/business/workspacecalculator Using Microsoft Excel 2013

Precious Plastic Impact 2023

A series of tools for the Precious Plastic community to collaborate around the world. Connect, share and meet each other to tackle plastic waste.

Hello. Does anyone have a plastic pallet file in .step format?

Good afternoon. In the US does anyone have a use for recycled fiberglass or know a company that has a need for it?

tightlyknit1146

Good afternoon. In the US does anyone have a use for recycled fiberglass or know a company that has a need for it?

That seems highly conditional- in what form? (domestic housing insulation batts? boats? turbine blades?) with what quantities? (a few cubic yards, or few tens-of-thousands?) in what condition? (mixed with construction debris? sea worthy vessel?) located where? Generally, fiber glass recycling seems a novel enterprise with limited market participants and capacity. Of late, there are industrial-level efforts to confront end-of-service-life turbine blades. (edited)

Christopher - Unmake Plastic

That seems highly conditional- in what form? (domestic housing insulation batts? boats? turbine blades?) with what quantities? (a few cubic yards, or few tens-of-thousands?) in what condition? (mixed with construction debris? sea worthy vessel?) located where? Generally, fiber glass recycling seems a novel enterprise with limited market participants and capacity. Of late, there are industrial-level efforts to confront end-of-service-life turbine blades. (edited)

Hi! Nonscreened, screened, or powdered form. It's clean fiberglass recycled. Depending on how someone wants it repurposed.

Ah- you are a supplier, not looking for a recycler. My mistake.

Aloha! Does the anyone in the Precious Plastic ecosystem collect information on revenue amounts for the partner businesses? I have access to 100s of tons of ocean plastic and want to understand what products are selling the best locally or globally. Is there anyone doing PP at a commercial scale?

I'm starting a collection point for plastic bags, it's not a designated space more of just a drop-off location in front of a store. Is it okay if it's still branded as a precious plastic drop-off location or does it have to meet other criteria's?

BeachParkDigital

Aloha! Does the anyone in the Precious Plastic ecosystem collect information on revenue amounts for the partner businesses? I have access to 100s of tons of ocean plastic and want to understand what products are selling the best locally or globally. Is there anyone doing PP at a commercial scale?

Here's a start: https://www.preciousplastic.com/impact/2023

Learn about the positive impact of small-scale recycling on this planet.

️ 595.400 tons of plastic recycled

$36 million revenue

17.951 local recyclers on board

️ 1.881 machines built

do you have a CAD model for a platic pallet?

clvx

do you have a CAD model for a platic pallet?

hello @clvx , can you give more specifications? Which standard are you after? If it is ISO, what is your choice? Plastic pallet dimensions: Dimensions – l * w (mm) / commonly used in 1016 * 1219 / North America 1000 * 1200 / Europe and Asia 1165 * 1165 / Australia 1067 * 1067 / North America, Europe and Asia 1100 * 1100 / Asia 800 * 1200 / Europe You see, there are several different configs. Also, to have the right CAD drawing, it would be important to know how you plan to fabricate the pallet. The drawing has to be tailored towards the shot volume of the injection machine you are planning to use, the type of polymer, load requirements and much more. Bottom line, there is not such a thing as a standard CAD model for a plastic pallet. The CAD follows what you have in mind. Attached you find a DXF-file of a wooden palette that meets the european standard of 800*1200 greetings

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Hello from Serbia!

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Christopher - Unmake Plastic

Here's a start: https://www.preciousplastic.com/impact/2023

Interesting but I’m looking for more detailed data. Who are the people in South Africa processing so many tons of waster with so few machines? What PP products are selling the best all over the globe? What company has the best revenue with the least amount of overhead costs? Here in Hawai’i warehouse space and labor are very expensive so I’m trying to understand what’s the best products to focus on

I might well be wrong, but I reckon you're not going to find some other compilation of data from small scale industrial and boutique plastic recycling manufacturing private companies that includes transparent access to company expense and revenue accounting. Here's what I would do, if I had your goals: Watch every single plastic business video produced by Precious Plastic in the last 5 years- https://www.youtube.com/@Precious_Plastic -then spend another day watching videos about every other small industrial plastic recycling manufacturing business on YouTube. You'll discover a few things- first among them, your goals and circumstances are not the same. Recognizing that, you will find models that MIGHT be adapted or instructive to your local- or that would work great... if your economies were identical. Some common elements that might be deal killers: Cost of power. Cost of labor. Cost of real estate. Access to grants. Public assistance. Acceptable margin. With all that in mind, reach out to those who seem to have done what you reckon might work in your circumstance, build a relationship, and ask them for at least a brief consultation with frank discussion of costs and income. Because of your isolated location, you may not be viewed as a direct competitor, and folks might open up to you. My 2 cents: most folks mistakenly try to find a customer for a product rather than a product for a customer. From the outside, those that seem to be successful are producing material for manufacturing- beams, sheets, bricks and the like; some are adding value to those commodities, others just acting as supplier.